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Support JAST USA's official censorship of Nitro+ games!

Every time I see Peter Payne I imagine some sort of Bruce Wayne/Peter Pan hybrid.

Relevant to me since I just rediscovered my fascination with the damn things.

Transcript fucking where?

Was there any mention of bringing over more BL games or licensing Nitro+Chiral's stuff?

>>4128993
This.

Never listened to these.
Are they interesting?

>>4128994
no transcript (at least that I see) listening to it now.

from the site

Topics covered:

- The future!

- Interest in the Infinity series.

- Updates for everything.

- The factors involved in licensing visual novels.

- DRM and censorship.

- A whole lot more.

>>4128994
In the past they've said that their BL titles sold abysmally so I doubt they will.

I'll just post random stuff I hear as I listen for those not listening

>Fan groups are positive for the industry because they drive up popularity

So, how many of you folks actually pay for VNs?

>>4129013
Well damn. I thought they might have sold a decent amount.

Nitro+ gives them all the work they could ever need right now, which is priority, but they want to bring other companies on board, not at a point where they can announce other stuff but they have options available.

Nitro+ games begin decided by what is working with Nitro+ right now, what can work on systems, and what Jast thinks will sell.

>>4129028
Bought Ever17, Phantom, Hourglass, and Dragonia. Pleased with three of those.
Bought Kira Kira for my iPod Touch because $10 beats €36.95.

>>4129028
I bought a couple.

blah blah watch our sites, we update, etc...

How do we choose license
Deal killer = any windows issues
Nitro+ wants to hold on to some titles until Jast sees success.

blah blah watch our sites, we update, etc...

How do we choose license
Deal killer = any windows issues
Nitro+ wants to hold on to some titles until Jast sees success.

Often Jast can't bring over the game they want because "whoops source code lost", also "opps, no uncensored art"

Any argument justifying piracy is invalid and pretty ridiculous.

>wahhhhh Video Game corporations are evil and greedy!

You still don't have the right to use their software without paying.

>wahhhhh EA RUINS GAMESSS!!!!!!

You still don't have the right to use software without paying.

>Video games are too expensive!!!!!!!

You still don't have the right to use software without paying.

>wahhhhh! Video games are too glitchy and incomplete!

You still don't have the right to use software without paying.

>wahhhhh! DRM!

You still don't have the right to use software without paying.

etc. etc.

Video game corporations could create the crappiest, worst, buggiest, expensive, games available, but you still don't have the right to use the software unless you pay.

Open to foreign companies if there is good companies for those language. Success with Russia.

Pirates are difficult

Stories vs sex romps = open question still, hard to determine two categories. Always trying to do when making decision. In general though having both in an unknown ratio is the winning strategy.

Transcript where?

>>4129074

And that's why I do buy games.

>>4129074
A desire to adhere to society's rules, coming from you, is nothing short of hilarious.
Pic unrelated, right? That's not going to start an argument, it will just carry out some ws.

Personal VNs, and what you would like to come

Peter- Season of the Sakura, also YMK
Shingo - YMK for stuff he has worked on, Princess Waltz and what he has played of Demonbane.

Outside of stuff produced
Shingo - sex romps

Other than loli, what might be censored?

Never want to change anything
On occasion looking at images, then ask for another game if there is a big problem

Do not look at games from a look at censorship perspective though, and want to "avoid at all costs"

WILL avoid bringing over content that would need significant censorship

Raidy 2 in beta over the next couple week, goal spring 2010, progress update soon

Raidy 3- they would be willing to pre license, no idea if there will even be a Japanese release.

Pulltop/Will - not specifics, but are still working with them. Good relation ship continues, active discussions during this year.

>>4129093
I do desire to adhere to society's rules.

And you can carry out all the w's you want.

So little RPGs why? - So few in Japan, need to be lucky enough to find the company interested in releasing America, xenophobic fear down the road. Basically "almost need a degree in psychology to deal with Japanese companies."

>>4129074
The fact that copyrights are law does not change the fact that copyrights are just anti-capitalistic cheats.
Nor does it stop me from violating anyone's copyrights.
Distribution is way cheaper than production, they should just deal with it and not use laws to try and monopolize distribution.

Princess Waltz - did well
Cosplay Fetish Academy - did very well

Some games they unlikely bring over if a long story then 2 CGs at the end.
Avoidance of one block buster title, want to be shock proof.

MangaGamer- great company, talked a lot
"Nice to have another company to compete with"
"A rising tide raise all boats"
more companies not a bad thing, makes it seem more legit industry


Nitro+ deal - rumor that came from mangagamer false.

>>4129138
Could you shit up a different thread please?

Nitro+ was done a few months before AX
We have Nitro+ MG reaction- oh really, nice
Talks about differences between the mess of Mangagamer and the single company Jast. MG started by collection of heads which is different.

Lack of Otome games reason

Not many in Japan, though they could get some, cautiously interested. Would want to do it in a way that it would "make sense" since it would delay some other project. Some ideas how they could do it, and will hopefully have info in the future.

>>4129177
Hopefully they do try to give Otome games another shot.

DRM shit

Most evil DRM in the universe known as Vmate, required to use because of G-collections contract. No longer used, being patched, etc.

New system, software defender, really works outstanding as no one has had issues loading excluding a server problem for one day. Will stand by claim that within 1-2 years it will be patched out.

OEL VN = not Japanese enough

For some reason ask about original English language VN from them.

He would rather it come from Japanese stuff, since that makes it somewhat authentic. He personally wouldn't want to but may be willing to distribute something good made from some other company. Also might be willing to help co produce with a Japanese company if there were something.

ends with promoting Jast stuff.

>>4129156
>Princess Waltz - did well
>Cosplay Fetish Academy - did very well
Buyfags have no taste. No wonder Jast continues translating shit games.

transcript is needed

Stop responding seriously to fake athens.

He pretty much said that anything with large amounts of loli wouldn't release though them

He pretty much said that anything with large amounts of loli wouldn't be released though them, as he said he will look to see if stuff would need to be censored before saying he would bring a game over.

>>4129293
So no Saya?

>>4129241
>Buyfags have no taste. No wonder Jast continues translating shit games.

Princess Waltz was an average at best story heavy game

Cosplay Fetish Academy was a fairly good porn heavy game.

>>4129324
>Princess Waltz was an average at best story heavy game
>story heavy game

A transcript really would be nice.

>>4129293

>He pretty much said that anything with large amounts of loli wouldn't be released though them, as he said he will look to see if stuff would need to be censored before saying he would bring a game over.

Glad we have MangaGamer, Jast would never bring over Koihime with that attitude.

As to a transcript, they are working on it

>We will be working on a transcript, but for 46 minutes that'll take some time.

For those who care only about censorship, there is a sidestep question avoidance at 12:15, then proper discussion at 19:15ish. Worth listening to it.

>>4129302

Would be kinda stupid to release Saya. You'd think most who wanted to play it already have.

Need something different from Nitro+, like Muramasa or Hello, World IMO.

>>4131744
>You'd think most who wanted to play it already have.
What's that got to do with anything? With that logic you could say "why would they release anything when people could just pirate it".
>Need something different from Nitro+, like Muramasa or Hello, World IMO.
Their two longest games? Right, keep praying.

This is actually worth listenening. Pretty insightful.

So basically, we should be expecting more sex romps and less story games.

Nitro+ wants Saya stateside.
Remember the comic?
They aim to get a Hollywood adaptation as well.
Oh boy.

So the guys behind the scenes like sex romps and sex romps sell really well. How many more years before this starts to wear off? It's weird because the West is following in the footsteps of how eroge came to be starting from the beginning.
They need to speed it up a bit.

>>4131951
You can also buy the soundtrack through English sites.

>>4131956
Yume Miru Kusuri is one of Peter's favourite VNs, and Princess Waltz sold well.
I guess the change on English industry is because of new fans who got interested in games thanks to fan-translations.

>>4131665
>censorship
What is their take on censorship and mosaic?

Majority of us don't give a shit about mosaic and rather they not censor any scenes. Why don't they just stop using that as an excuse whenever a localization project failed due to missing non mosaic CGs?

>>4132068
Basically if the Japanese company suggests something with mosaics, JAST's reaction is usually "Yeah, no thanks".

Pretty annoying that their core userbase cares about that shit so much.

The way the interviewer pronounces "loli" irritates me a great deal. I can't stop paying attention to it.

>>4132164
"Lollee".

What they say at around 29:00-30:00 is pretty interesting.

They seem to be opposed to translating extremely long games with low sexual content out of two fears.

One, that the low level of sexual content will not satisfy their core userbase, who wants to see more than two CGs at the end of a really long game. Two, they want to avoid being like English RPG localization companies where they base their company's future on one huge title. Focusing on a big game would require a ton of effort, thus making it difficult to do other things.

It seems like their entire business model seems to be striking a balance between sex romp and story based titles, which is fine. But I find it worrying that we probably will never see the major, story heavy blockbusters get an official localization from JAST.

Oh well, hopefully fan translations pull through some day. I would really love to see Muramasa and Hello World.

>>4132197
They should just redo PoI properly.
Lot's of Cgs, not the most outrageous length, and there is already some basic translation.
It begs to be done!

They're too scared of being sued by feminazis.
And being "sued" i mean "harakiri".

>>4132197

What the? That's pretty lame considering I was only satisfied with this partnership for the story driven titles. Nobody can fan-translate Nitro+ shit anyways because of this partnership, so that means nobody will do Muramasa then. Thanks Jast.

>>4132226
If anything, won't it encourage people to fan translate their titles in hopes of being paid by JAST to do it?

>>4132226
Fan translators could always do it anyway.

If I remember correctly, this happens semi-often with anime.

>>4132226
Nobody would translate Muramasa anyway.

Should ask Jast if they ever plan on releasing some of the Nitro+ really long games. If they don't then there shouldn't be a problem with fans translating them.

>says tries to avoid taking on series with content that they'll have to censored.
>takes on Demonbane anyway

Fail. Fuck off, JAST.

>>4132204
But which version?
The fully-full voiced non-ero one?
Or Integration, which has more shit but no voices?

>>4132245
They should just create their own full-voice version with the extra shit.

Of course, it would require dealing with shit from multiple companies, but it's not like they haven't done that before.

Will something bad happen to me if I translate Muramasa?

>>4132259
Moogy will come to your house and break your kneecaps.

>>4132244
Have JAST actually announced censorship of Demonbane or is this just an unfounded conclusion?

>>4132263
JAST hasn't even updated the site in months.

>>4132239
Makoto says hi.

>>4132625
Last word on Makoto is that he's not planning on doing any more translations.

>>4132641
You don't think I would believe you without any source, do you?

>>4132643
Well the source is IRC but that's something that can be easily faked. Ask yourself.

>>4132641
>>4132648
>>4132625
I don't know what to believe anymore!

>>4132740
Well, even if Makoto won't do it, some brave translator might rise to the challenge anytime.

Step 1: Get Ixrec to play Muramasa
Step 2: Hope for a 10.

>>4132960
Step 0: Persuade Ixrec that JAST will never license Muramasa.

>>4132908
yeah like with Muv-Luv and Baldr Sky amirite

>>4132908
>Makoto
Under JAST payroll.
Are you implying he won't work on jingai makyou or the other short nitro+ titles?

>>4133051
Hey, I'm the guy who don't believe that myself, ask him >>4132641

>>4133051
>Under JAST payroll.
No he's not. JAST is simply using the stuff he translated for Demonbane.
>Are you implying he won't work on jingai makyou or the other short nitro+ titles?
Specifically for JAST? Nope, he won't work on them.

>Yes, because Hikaru is my favorite character in anything ever. But I'm working on other things right now, including RL bullshit. And even when I do it, it will take a long time. I'll probably also translate Django at some point. --Makoto 16:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

From tlwiki's page. Sounds great, even if it takes a while.

>>4133683
A man with good taste.
Hikaru is the greatest character ever.

>>4133683
Makoto is a good man.
>I'll probably also translate Django at some point
Incredibly good man.

>>4133704
Yes she is.
From the calendar.

>>4133704
I beg to differ.

>>4133986
>>4133704
The entire female cast of Muramasa is godlike.

>>4134035
>The entire cast of Muramasa is godlike.
Fixed that for you.

>>4128972
Just finished listening to this, it was actually pretty interesting. It was intriguing to hear what they had to say about Mangagamer.

>>4134658
I think that was the first time Peter Payne has publicly said something positive about MangaGamer.

>>4129074
>Video game corporations could create the crappiest, worst, buggiest, expensive, games available, but you still don't have the right to use the software unless you pay.

You know what? Fuck you and your "rights". As long as you can't actually stop me, I have any right I feel like having.

>>4128971
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
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