/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Looking at her twitter likes, seems like the message for the picture card isn't unique.

>>41149963
That's a shame but she's so busy I understand.

>Use her tags
>Post the same shit everyone else does with memberships, merch, and other shit
>Get no likes from her
I hate it!

$5 nnd membership : 4 streams a month
$5 noel membership : literally nothing
Make it make sense?

>>41153332
>Thinking you're entitled to member content

>>41153332
I would be happy even with a monthly walllaper but nothing is indeed kinda shit.

>>41153554
She's never done wallpapers, she should though but they're stolen so easily. Everyone posts shit in generals and there's even a website dedicated to them now.
But Holos aren't required to make monthly member content, Noel is usually pretty good about it unless she's busy. Or she's lazy and just privates a public video like her ASMR.

>Try to make /vt/ thread
>Dead within an hour

Dwango's fault?
https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1568134233994166272

>>41155317
>She's going to resign all the cards again
She just loves making more work for herself.

Fuck, missed the first half hour and she said she wouldn't leave the timeshift because of what she said? Anyone catch it? I didn't notice anything in the part I caught.

>>41158943
Oh I checked 5ch, apparently it was the fact that she revealed how many people are on the Brick plan, 5k.

>>41159132
That doesn't seem so taboo. I guess no one likes sharing analytics now.

>>41160558
Ehh people can maybe start shitting on her or getting jealous for being rich, with 5k on the 10k plan and probably double or more than that in the 5k plan she's going to be making millions of dollars a year on the FC alone.

I've been thinking about changing from the 5k plan to the 10k plan. However, the payment for the 5k plan went thru a few days ago. From what I could find, the only way I can upgrade is if I cancel my 5k plan and then pay the 10k. Which means I would be paying 15k for this month (which is fucking stupid. Don't know why it's so hard to just pay the difference in plans to upgrade). Can anybody confirm this?

>>41162094
Yes she has said it before, you have to cancel and rejoin, will also reset the continuous subscription streak to 0 so you'll be 3 months late for the rewards.

>>41162094
Can confirm, basically did the 5k plan for the first month till I wait and saw what were the content for the 10k plan then I switched when the first month was almost over. Which I agree its kinda dumb having to more or less double dip just for a plan switch instead doing a pay difference like fantia and fanbox.

>>41149951
Gods, I love this whore so much.

You are making a lying Whore
A multi millionaire

>>41162532
I pirate everything

>>41162532
t. Canan

>>41162532
Why the weird spacing?
t. Multi millionaire

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1568457058516869120
Site so shit she's straight up doing support.
Had to tell people to stop sending her shit and go to the help desk.
Well, still pretty easy work for a cool millions a year.

>>41163549
Nice, now I can tell her about the loophole where people are accessing her stuff for free. Hope there's a fix soon.

>>41163644
She is gonna suck your dick for that cucky

>>41163549
At this point, I wonder if she'd just switch to OnlyFans. Another Japanese lewd ASMR streamer I follow did that for her overseas fans because she knew Fantia would be annoying to navigate. She used to upload solely for Fantia but now she does both Fantia and OnlyFans (there's no difference between what's upload to the sites). And now with the Mastercard restrictions along with Fantia not allowing PayPal (cuz Fantia's a fucking shit site) that decision of hers is looking great. Canan is doing the opposite: she's sticking to Dwango sites out of sheer loyalty to the brand despite the site being dogshit with breaches and exploits galore. It's ridiculous.

>>41163350
>Why the weird spacing?
Obviously because it's an ESL SEA Monkey.

>>41162532
>Multimillionaire
I think your solely looking at the number of members times the price of membership. Dwango probably takes a hefty amount, I'd imagine it'd be the same amount as YouTube does with Superchats (which I believe is 30%) and all of this cash is gonna bite her in the ass come tax season. She's still gonna be rolling in dough but probably not to the extent you're thinking of.

>>41164069
Nah, albeit a good idea and would widen her followers overseas, I think she's too Japanese. She's pretty insecure about her lack of understanding English and oversea fans often seem like an afterthought, she clearly favors her Japanese fans over them probably because she can actually communicate with them.
She's used NND her whole life so it's likely just habit now, she knows it and probably has connections so she sticks with it. It's like YouTube, there's other options but she's familiar with it. She could stream on Twitch and wear slutty things and not be banned, but again, she's Japanese and twitch and onlyfans aren't big platforms over there. It's NND and Fantia.
I agree with you, I think she should move to better websites that are easier to navigate, more secure, and would broaden her following but something tells me she doesn't want the latter. Especially when she thinks overseas members are the ones leaking her content. She tried to learn English for a while under Noel, she should go back to it. I think it would help her a lot but she's already so busy and lately she seems to be getting worried about Canan and Noel colliding so maybe she doesn't want to be big and popular while Noel is around. I don't know, just my thoughts.

>>41164265
I'm surprised that no JPN schizos have claimed that her bf is a higher up in Dwango. Seems more of a reasonable schizo claim then some random artist on Twitter. Are Japanese schizos really that uncreative? It's really no wonder then that Japanese Society as a whole shuns them. They contribute nothing to all facets of life.

>>41164951
My favorite was Watao being her boyfriend because he designed Noel and his speaking mannerisms. It's all just nyfco schizo posting.

>>41162532
>lying Whore
You have her confused with Marine

>>41164116
and she always cries when it's tax season

>>41153635
Just make a /ahoy/+/hamu/ thread then

>>41167231
It was like 1億 last year in taxes for her? Probably more than twice that this year.

Live

>>41168247
What happened this time?

She said she has no dreams for the future, someone mentioned the studio thing and she said "yeah that used to be a thing"
Seems like she just making a shitton of money with no goal in mind, I guess that could be part of depression

>>41168423
She's just been sad every community stream during the move, that being away from computers and streaming so much made her realize her life is empty outside of that. Then other self-conscious stuff like how she feels she's not able to interact with people normally and wonders if she didn't say anything weird in all her interactions during the day.

>>41168450
Thanks

>>41168430
>>41168450
Took her this long to realize that? She's been streaming for half her life and I could have said she has no real goals or anything outside of it.
Still, that's pretty sad and I get why she's depressed, wish I could help. She's in a rare situation where she has a lot of money and a degree and probably could do almost anything she wants.

She'll really either marry a fan and follow him or some rich asshole that'll treat her like a piece of meat and make her miserable.

>>41168732
I vote for fan, the interaction right now was cute.

>>41168738
What's going on? I'm in public and can't listen to it.

>>41168747
Just some dumb back and forth with a comment saying they're happy and saving the video because their comment got read, then Canan reading that and them saying it again, she laughed and called them cute.
Yeah stupid but I don't know, felt nice hearing her laugh like that.

>>41168761
That's pretty cute. Seems like chat cheered her up a bit. I wish I could catch more of these. For some reason I stopped getting notifications when she goes live on here.

>>41168732
I vote fan and I vote me.
We can open a cafe or bakery and grow old together.

>>41168779
Instead I wish I could find out how to turn off some, I get her notifications, but also a bunch of other irrelevant bullshit, when I only follow her community and channel.

>>41166791
Why marine

>>41159116
Damn i can imagine canans face, its kinda chubby fat lol. From where are the pictures?

>>41169228
Those are super super old.

>>41168843
Same. I only use NND for Canan and that's all. Maybe I did get a notification and thought it was for something else. I did just wake up and needed to clear my notifications.
If I knew she was streaming I would have listened in and not gone out for food.

>>41168636
A small goal to travel around japan can cheer her up or a 5 days vacation to the bahamas

>>41168636
Eh when you get to her age and you manage to accomplish your goals it's easy to feel empty and rudderless. My goals were to go to school and get a specific job, it took me a while but I did it. After some time with the job, during some quiet moments, it dawned on me that I didn't know what to do with my life now. It's something that I'm still trying to figure out. I guess that's why it's a social norm to have kids around this age: "you've met your goals, now go have a kid. Your goal from there will be to make a good life for them. Once you do that, then you can get old and die."

She should focus on Noel and I don't mean that because I hate Canan. She could make an album or work towards a SoloLive. That's what Okayu is doing and I imagine making an entire album would feel like a big accomplishment. Despite not being the best singer or having a ton of confidence she loves doing it and performing. It might actually be good for her.

>>41169363
I think the problem is precisely that she separates them too much, Noel can have all the goals she wants but "Canan" is still a just a streamer with no future, and Canan is who she has been for 13 years, she wants more from there I'd imagine.

Maybe that's why she rushed into the FC thing because it felt like progression and something different than doing the same 4 NND streams month after month.

>>41169490
Yeah she pretty much said that, her goal since the NND restrictions happened was to get somewhere to do her content freely, she tried Fantia and didn't like it much, now she got FC and seems satisfied but doesn't know what to do next, as far as Canan content goes.

>>41168837
>cafe or bakery
and thats why she should marry me instead so we can open a 牛丼屋 together.

>>41164116
>Dwango probably takes a hefty amount,
Nico Nico only takes 14%, same parent company as the new site so I doubt they're taking that much

>>41169686
>Nico Nico only takes 14%
>YouTube takes 30%
Holy shit Susan is fucking evil.

>>41169525
I'm sure something will come to her eventually. She should learn to sit tight for a bit and grow and not just keep moving to the next thing.

>>41169269
I know that feeling all too well. I fucked around most of my 20s. I went to school but I had no real goals, I never liked sitting in a classroom. So I got my associates and entered the workforce mostly working the food industry, worked every part of it, front of the house, back of the house, bar, management. Now as I enter my 30s I grow tired of this churn and want to do something else but I don't know what. School is expensive but getting a bachelor's degree in something would look nice. I'd like to own my own business but the economy right now doesn't warrant that without huge risk. It's all just so tiresome. And in all I've never met anyone and so I'm single in my 30s with no real goals. So I understand perfectly how she feels being lost in life with no direction. It sucks.

If she has 5k on the most expensive plan, I wonder just how many people are subscribed to her NND or fantia that only cost 500 yen.

>>41169734
30% is the "standard" in the industry. That's what the whole Apple vs Epic lawsuit was about, boiled down to Epic not wanting Apple taking a 30% cut from all in app purchases.

...I want to marry her...

>>41149951
I love this lying whore so much; I wish she wasn't a brocon.

>>41169525
Time for the JAV arc

>>41171735
>lying whore
You have her confused with Marine

I don't know how anyone can be a fan of Noel/Canan on this site and not hate みかりん* and her faggot fans.

>>41171953
Aren't they really good friends? Wait, isn't that Marine's roommate, are you just trying to find a new Marine shitpost?

>>41172074
Oh here comes the Marine defence force. Yes everyone knows thats the reddit pirate's roommate.

Imagine the smell between her breasts on a hot & humid Japanese summer day...

>>41172576
It was really hot this summer in Tokyo, I wonder how much underboob sweat she had to wipe off.

>>41172609
Unironically want her to auction off a jar of her sweat. I'm not gonna buy it, I just wanna know how high the auction would go.

>>41172645
That shit is never legit. That girl who sold "bath water." Someone took it to a lab and got it tested and it was just water with a bath bomb in it. No skin or fecal matter found.

>>41172663
She can make a stream out of it. Get on an exercise bike, go, wipe herself down and squeeze that shit into a jar. That will prove it's legit. Do it over the course of multiple streams to build hype for the auction.
I legit just want to see headlines of "Streamer sells jar of sweat for a million dollars". (I know it won't go that high, but you get the idea)

She has hives again.
https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1568812911581339657

heh
Hives again?

>>41173232
>>41173233
Eh I can see it. Last time she got hives was because the FC site was opening soon. Hives can be triggered by stress, and just yesterday she was depressed about how empty her life is outside of streaming. She's probably stressing because of the realization and the move.

>>41173519
Yeah, just found the difference in the tweets funny being so close to each other.

>>41173233
Not surprised given her life at the moment. She sounds so stressed and out of it. Looks like she's making progress, probably focusing on getting her PC setup first so she can stream as Noel while she sets up the room for Canan. I'm excited to see this new room of hers, she sounded excited when talking about it.

>>41173779
Hey, if she's stressed that means we might get another FC short. I wouldn't mind.

Alright bros, give it to me straight, how was the latest FC clip? I can't change plans right now because I just paid for the 5k plan recently (yes I'm the one who wrote >>41162094) but I'm really curious about the clip. Some folks at /t/ were saying it's really good. I did find it on a free site before but it got taken down and I haven't found another since. I wasn't able to enjoy all of it since it was taken down so quick so it's peaking my interests. If it's good, I'll try to find a torrent for it (this is more complicated for me though because the comp I use for torrent is falling apart now) or I'll try to find out what's this FC exploit some of you guys are talking about. Otherwise, I'll just wait the month. The not knowing whether it's good or not is killing me.

>>41172074
They're not friends. Canan has alluded to disliking her many times on her community streams.

Marine and her fans are such garbage people

>>41174456
it's nothing insane and definitely not worth 10000 yen. she just tittyfucks the dildo for a bit then supposedly fucks the dildo off screen. She doesn't even cum.

>>41163002
based, torrent everything over Tor, steal wifi and electricity from the neighbors

>>41164265
that pic is such a weird pose, why is she taking off her shoe (which looks too big for her anyway)

>>41174747
That's an outright lie. You're so full of bullshit it's unbelievable. Special place in hell for liars like you.

She's live on the community stream

Heh, when she says it that way she does sound a bit bipolar.
Well, nice that she's so happy today at least.

FC stream on the 24-25

>>41177893
>when she says it that way she does sound a bit bipolar
What way? I just got home and she ended it and I can't time shift.

>>41177933 (Me)
Never mind. I got logged out and thought she ended. I may be an idiot.

>>41177933
?
She is still live right now

>>41177933
Well literally just that, that yesterday she was talking about with is her life goal and having no motivations and today she's really happy because she's in the new apartment and her internet is fast.

>>41177959
It's almost like she was stressed out and that's when she has her menhera moments. Glad she's feeling better, she needs to learn to enjoy life and what she has instead of always looking for the next big thing. She has it pretty good right now and she's still in her 20s so she should enjoy it.

Oh no, she's singing...

>>41177979
I think she compares herself too much to her university friends who have husbands/boyfriends and starting families. I don't think anyone in Hololive is married with kids but her university friends probably are. But that's life in your to late 20s, everyone around you is having kids. I did the same thing, you're not supposed to compare yourself to others but it's hard.

Least she's making progress wit her move. She's supposed to return next week as Noel.

>>41178108
The rest of the house is a mess but the streaming room is ready so she could stream at any moment.
She said she has a lot of work lined up this week so if it's not just recordings maybe a collab or sponsored stream

>>41178185
Knowing her, the house will be a mess for a long time.

>the reason the VODs somete take days to be up on the FC is because the staff doest work on weekends
Why is there even any manual work involved for something like that? So stupid.

>>41178241
Maybe they have to approve everything so something illegal doesn't get uploaded. Imagine the poor soul that has to watch her masturbate every weekend.

>she doesn't feel like reading donation anymore
Damn they really ruined it for her, but she does have enough money to stop giving a fuck about streamlabs

>>41178346
Hopefully she gets better because that's pretty sad. No reason 1 guy should ruin something that meant so much to her.

>>41178383
She she a rule for now, she'll only read donations that happened during the stream or right after, and then in the future she'll decide if she even bothers reading them anymore on stream.

>>41178420
Sounds like the rules some Holos are doing with only reading red superchats because people sending anything lower is usually trolls. Plus it saves time.

Funny how she complained about being nothing but a streamer and then spent almost two hours today streaming.

>>41149951
I love this whore so much

>>41179302
No you don't

I can't fap to her anymore because she makes me cum too fast. She's just too perfect and beautiful, is this what love is? Why can't we be together?

How many toys do she have

I hope she does a blowjob with her tits flopping around for the next vid. I've been cooming to her last 3 vids like everyday where she plays with the dildo

>>41181609
I'll do you one better: Ass cam blowjob with her topless. Have her hair be in the front so we can see all of her back. I'll cum buckets.

She was supposed to get a hair cut.

>>41181859
i'll do you one better. Make it be a normal fc stream then halfway through a big black nigger comes in and rails her. I'll cum buckets.

>>41182088
Fuck off

>>41182088
Yeah, I bet you would, cuck.
I know you're just saying it to get a reaction but looking like a fucking retard isn't a good look. You're biting your nose to spite your face.

>>41182088
This is bound to happen sooner or later. I don't know how her boyfriend is able to hold it in until after the stream. One day he's gonna snap and fuck her right then and there.

Don't engage it. It's what they want, they want the attention and (You)s because to them they think it's funny. Don't enable them.

is sukebei caught up? I'm assuming no

>>41176810
Because she just came home

What is she going on about now?
https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1569322336293388288

>>41184914
I guess antis implied getting a hair cut = has boyfriend or broke up with boyfriend and for some reason she is indulging their stupidity by replying.

>>41184914
She's being a dork and seeing her haircut as doing the anime trope of cutting your hair after a big "character development", and she's making sure to tell everyone that unlike most anime it's not because of something romance related, but about another big change in her life.
>>41184926
I didn't see anyone implying stuff, seems like she just wanted to get ahead of it.

>>41184926
>>41184952
She really has the emotional maturity of a teenager.

>>41185164
Working on an industry that rewards girls being retarded and cute probably doesn't help, sometimes I feel like most hololive girls have mentally regressed the more I watch them.

>>41185249
Just look at Nene. She started out pretty normal and cute and now she's a literal child.

>>41185263
Noel does plenty of childish things but she does it for laughs. Just enables the stereotype

>>41169869
I think most people are lost in life now since it takes so much time and energy to commit to something before you even know what you're committing to and it's hard to start over. Dont feel too bad, I spent my 20s with dead end jobs and then went to university for the whole "study hard and get a good job" meme. Even with a stem degree job prospects are shit unless you live in certain areas (which generally have higher cost of living anyway) and only by going to university do you realise how much you would hate yourself if you went through with academia. Fuck researching disease I'm retraining to become a paramedic and I'm almost 30.

TLDR don't feel too bad since these days it takes a long time to get into certain careers or change yours and you're unlikely to get the one you want the first time since you won't know what it's like until you try it.

>>41185249
It's only going to be an issue if they start carrying that behavior over when they stop playing a character. Twitter is a poor way to judge people since everyone on the site acts like a child.

>>41184952
anime has ruined Japan and will continue to ruin the West

Never forget Canan did baby play.

>>41185606
please let me forget

>>41185606
Y-you mean when she was drunk as Noel right? Please don't tell me she's actually into baby stuff.

>>41185670
She was. She did a baby play stream. I am pretty sure doing it cured her of it though. She is pretty embarrassed about it,

>>41185689
Playing as a baby and sniffing hamster ass are worrying behaviors, even moreso when a person does both

>>41185689
>She is pretty embarrassed about it
good

>>41185621
She wants us and herself to forget about it. She's very embarrassed about it.
But yeah, she stopped being a baby on Canan and Noel after that aside from some of the tantrums. She probably felt like an idiot and saw the chat cringe hard. Not her proudest moment.

>>41185689
How bad was it? Did she wear a diaper? That's where I draw the line. I know she has a rattle that she used on Noel.

>>41186345
No she just wore a onesie and had the rattle.

>>41186378
Jesus thats still insanely bad. Holy fuck that is one terrible thing to have on the internet forever.

>>41186394
You say that but for one guy it was the best stream she ever did.

yea link which one it was so I know which to skip...

>>41186378
Yeah I remember that stream. Good thing my JPN isn't great because I'd probably be cringing my teeth out. Didn't she also do a stream where the viewers were the baby and she was our caretaker? Or am I thinking of the same stream? She had a rattle for that one too.

>>41186591
Yeah I think that was in 2020, but its so long ago now I can't remember the details. There was also the shota one last year

>>41187012
This shouldn't stress her out at all.

>>41186627
I remember the threesome one. Chat didn't like that despite her being into it. Chat is very vanilla but she uses these ASMRs to play out her fantasies.

>>41187142
I don't think it was that badly received, she has talked about doing something similar again on the FC.
Or well, maybe joked about it is more appropriate, she said a "foursome" with the two KUs and the old mic would be fun, with the KUs being the main and old one just sitting of to the side in a bit of a "cuck" position.

>>41187142
Was that a collab or did she pretend to be two different people?

>>41187597
MFM threesome, two mic heads.

>>41187597
She used two KUs, one was mostly between her legs while she licked the other one.

i thought /jp/ hates whores?

>>41187954
There's literally JAV, Gravure, and Idol threads. I think /jp/ is more accepting of 3D and whores than /gif/

>>41187857
It wasn't two KU's. She hadn't bought her second KU at that point. The one between her legs was Takeshi, her mic before she bought a KU100. She used Takeshi a lot on her YT channel before KU100 showed up.

>>41187573
During the threesome stream, I always felt she was cucking Takeshi. I mean, she barely earlicked it. Plus, she was mostly focusing on the bigger, stronger, better KU100 is. I think she mentioned how much "bigger" KU100 was. And remember, Takeshi was the mic she had for a while before KU100. So I always thought of that stream like it was an NTR where the childhood friend goes to college and gets stolen by one of her college-club senpai

>>41187994
Yeah pretty much, it was still NND so she couldn't go too far, on a FD she could go all out with that sort of scenario, and the dual camera set up would help too.

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1569524272007364608
Internet seemed fine but seems she got some other problems before she can stream.

Zelda Nintendo Direct. Noel will probably watch this for BOTW2 but rumor has it they'll port Twilight Princess and Wind Waker to Switch so she can finally play those too.

>>41187133
>>41187012
I think she can still work around that, with some careful planning. Obviously she's not showing anything on video on YT, so the only thing to stress about is what YT considers "sexual sounds". I'd imagine kisses are over the line and maybe heartbeat as well.
Pre-earlicking streams on Canan will probably disappear then, considering she can't link to NND/FC. Even though she maintains it's R15 or whatever, YT obviously won't think that.
However, she could use the Canan channel to test the waters and see what kind of sounds are allowed. If YT is even a little bit consistent (big expectations), she could then do ASMR on Noel without worrying about being suspended. Canan doesn't really need YT anyway.

>>41189525
That's the problem, Noel is probably fine if she naviagates it carefully but I don't trust YouTube or her bots. Even if it gets flagged and taken down by trolls or antis out to get her then that's time she's spends working with YouTube to get them back online. I can see here just making all her ASMR Member's Only.
Canan is just gone, I don't know how she can do YT with her content and it was mostly for publicity for NND and FC and if she can't link those sites then there's no real point.
I guess we'll wait and see if she makes a statement, I wonder if she's aware.

Damn, this will look good on Canan.
https://twitter.com/squishubunny/status/1569460861181530113

From what I'm reading, is it simply just linking directly on youtube? Cuz if other links are done through like say twitter, then its not really on youtube and twitter itself isn't r18 inherently. And unless Susan decides to have people/bots search beyond that (which would be flat out improbable) then they can't exactly do much with that. It'd sort of out of the way but there's always the idea of making safe dupe twitter account that links to her actual account since that one is more risque which has her actual fantia/fc links. Assuming she wants do go through the bullshit.

>>41187954
???
This isn't a Marine/みかりん* thread

>>41187983
Gravure and idols aren't whores

How do we cancel Marine?

Good friends.
https://twitter.com/masimasi0/status/1569605317008424962

Live
So much for no more community streams like she said lats time...

Got scammed by the hair stylists and barely cut it.
Hearing her complaining about stuff like this is when it feels the most "GFE"

We might get Nintendo Direct simul watch with Canan at this rate.

What happened? She noticed something about the FC or NND and got angry? The chat is shitting on DWANGO.

Apparently she can stream 1080p/60fps on NND now which was supposed to be a big sell for FC, she was told it would never be possible on NND and now the fucked her over.

Community stream almost every night but no noel twitter space? Does she hate her fans?

That succubus stream is sounding really hot already.

Jeez I can't believe it took this to get a watch along, when was the last time Noel did one?

Lol she loves that Hokuto boxing game.

She really likes ojisans.

FC on the 24th, nice, Saturdays are better for me

Man, if she was doing this on Noel she could talk about what she plans to play and stuff...

>>41192013
Though she's making a lot of dirty jokes, if she was Noel she would hold back

She doesn't know about It Takes Two? It's been played a bunch by holos already.

Really hyped for the BOTW2 playthrough.
Is it obvious the last ~10 posts have all been me, I was just too happy to be watching something with her.

>>41192255
How the fuck do you watch 2 streams and post at the same time?

>>41192289
Canan in one ear and mostly paying attention to what she says over the Direct.
And knowing that the archive will be gone for ever after this made me want to leave something about it here.

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1569700236813299718
>poor Noel, too many problems and won't be able to stream until the 16th
>btw Canan stream tomorrow, lol
Really?

>>41192328
Taking into account these FC donation streams she's actually doing like 6 ~2+ hour streams a month now, on top of having to sign all the stuff for the continues rewards, and now and extra 100 because of DWANGO fuck up, she's definitely getting busy.

disgusting fat tits

SOVL

>>41192313
And she just confirmed no archive so yeah, extremely rare watch along gone for ever.
I hope she plays one of those farming games, Harvestella or the new SoT, just some hours at the morning like Lamy did for some time would be comfy.

>saying she's ending for half an hour
>suddenly wants to sing
Wonder what goes through her mind in times like these, sometimes it feels like signing is really cathartic for her.

Her Noel comeback should be an utawaku, she really does love it.

Noel feels so fake and restricted after watching these community streams

>00
yucky

>>41192956
At least for these times when she sings, here she doesn't give a fuck, just going all out screaming and being silly to let out steam.
On Noel she's still silly sometimes but for the most part she tries to be "respectful" and sing normally, as best as she can at least.

>>41192956
Noel is a character. Canan might be more real but she's also a character.

>>41192988
Canan is a character on the YouTube and member streams, but it's hard to say here, she herself says the way she acts in community streams it's not what she wants to show to the more wide public.
Funny how she has the FC which is supposed to only be diehard fans paying a shitton, but she still fells more comfortable here, probably because the people on the community streams are more likely to care about her as a person, while the FC is still mostly coomers.

And she's gone, ~4 hours of talking, singing and a Direct watch along never to be seen again.

>>41191535
>>41191550
Still wondering what this was, she seemed really angry at DWANGO when she got informed something but I'm not sure if it was just this.

>>41192649
That always been the case
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28230446

>>41192328
I don't like it either but I'm sure she has her reasons. Too bad she can't talk about them because I'm sure we're not the only ones realizing it. But what I think is she has a lot of NND streams to make up this month so she moved Noel around to make her life easier. It's not like she hasn't sacrificed time on Canan for Noel in the past, she's pretty good at balancing them but needs to make sacrifices from time to time when she's busy like this. Plus people are paying a lot of money for Canan so she probably feels an obligation to stream on her to make those donors happy, it's only a donation reading anyway.

>>41193041
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28232354

>>41193051
Donation readings on FC are actually pretty good, casually saying chinpo and stuff and sometimes gets a bit horny, will probably talk about the Succ costume for the next stream too.

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1569723291916718080
Was she supposed to be sad at the end when singing?

>>41192154
That's a little concerning. Maybe she doesn't watch as much Hololive as I thought. Maybe she should have played it with Flare or someone else. EN/ID played it most but I recall Botan and Towa playing it as well as Lamy and Korone.
But looking it up Subaru played it and she's supposed to be a big Subaru fan.
https://youtu.be/HXRrByBC1e0

>>41193108
Its on Moona's channel

>>41193039
I think I get it now, NND always had 1080p, as the 8Mb option seen on official streams like the Elden Ring one she did with Lamy, but seems like it's only limited to that, she was told that if she wanted 1080p she would need to make the FC or a NN+ channel, and basically used that as a big sell.
Now it turns out other streamers also got 8Mb on their normal members streams and she has to discuss it with DWANGO.
I would be happy if we get to watch the NND streams on 1080p live, but she'll probably want to keep it an exclusive to FC and Fantia archives.

>>41191777
Of a gaming event? I don't think she's done one ever. It would have been a good idea to do a Noel stream about it due to BOTW2 but nope and now I can't even watch the archive because I was asleep. I didn't think she would do one or I would have gotten up. Fuck me, I guess.

>>41193108
>>41193116
That's fair, I can understand ignoring special guests.
English only name so even if she heard about it in passing she wouldn't remember.

>>41193140
She also seems to forget that the IDs exist.

>>41193123
Wasn't there some Dragon Quest thing with Pekora once? Or Square, where they announced the 3 remake, I feel like I remember watching that with her.
But yeah it was nice, though in the end she just mostly focused on the dirty joke about 結合男子, I guess that's how dirty her mind is, or wanted to leave all the game speak for Noel where she will actually play them.

>>41193156
Yes there was a square watchalong on Pekora's channel. It was sponsored as well.

>>41193162
>sponsored
So she was forced.
I'm starting to think she doesn't love Hololive or Noel as much as I thought or was told.

the pig looks content

>>41193245
>So she was forced.
No she wasn't. She signed up to do it. Same with all the Square Enix sponsored stuff.

>>41193475 (me)
No one is forced to do the square enix shilling. In fact if it wasn't sponsored they wouldn't have been able to stream it at all.

>>41193245
>I'm starting to think she doesn't love Hololive or Noel as much as I thought or was told.
Because she doesn't do watchalongs of game announcement streams?

>>41193506
Because she clearly favors one account over the other and she's done it time after time. Graduation soon, within the year. Screenshot this.

Her love for Hololive is represented by buying goods, she spent this whole two weeks saying she would watch Back Jack OVAs and play Made in Abyss and in the end she did nothing, just sat around and did community streams whenever she felt bored or lonely, so probably never watched streams either, she's depressed.

>>41193719
I agree that she's likely depressed given that one stream where she said she has no life goals or anything to aim for. Problem is her depression wears on her fans, we cheer her on and try to make her happy every day but when that ultimately ends in nothing, it feels pointless. At least that's what it feels like for me. I love her and want her to be happy but when she mopes around and talks about how hollow her life is while making millions it just feels like first world problems. I'm a long term supporter but lately even I'm fatigued at following her, I feel at times she doesn't even know I exist. I hope she cheers up in her new place. Hopefully she settles in, cleans up, and invites friends over for off collabs and other fun. Moving can be stressful and when she couldn't do something she usually does every day you can feel aimless. It's like losing a job and suddenly you have all this time you don't know what to do with and you feel lost.

>>41189199
I guess those rumors weren't true. Disappointed, I want her to play Twilight Princess.

>>41193791
I don't understand how Niiisan can be so inconsistent. This Noel art is great but there have been some weird ones in the past.

>>41193616
>she is going to graduate because she doesn't do watchalongs of Nintendo directs

>>41193616
Just fuck off ichimi. She has moved Canan stuff for Noel before meanwhile your bitch oshi never streams and she doesn't have any excuses.

>>41193791
That's a nice Noel pic

>>41193928
I really want to see her wearing this, it might depend on the upcoming succubus stream, if it shows a lot of tummy and she's ok with it then reverse or transparent bunny should be fair game.

In the end she said some months ago she planned to go the psychiatrist, didn't, and never brought it up again, right?
If she's really feeling depressed like that she should try again, seems to be in the same position as Laplus right now but at least she said she would get help.
>captcha

>>41194048
She probably should for her long term mental health but I think her current mood will pick up once she gets back to streaming.

>>41193616
>s-she is going to graduate this time I swear

>>41193883
Yes, this would have been the perfect stream to come back on Noel but she didn't because she rather stream on Canan so she can jack off and act like a fucking pervert. She couldn't even be bothered to half ass a Twitter Space for Noel over two weeks. She doesn't give a shit.

>>41194238
God you are retarded. You didn't even watch the community stream.

>>41194238
>ESL
Kill yourself schizo

>>41192013
It was a spur of the moment thing. She happened to be streaming at the same time so she did a watchalong of it.
She normally live tweets it as Noel.
I think she is adverse to watchalongs in general, she doesn't seem to like doing them.

>>41194306
I don't know why, I enjoy the ones she's done because it feels like date night but even Flare tries to get her to do watch alongs with her to no avail.

>>41194252
Why would I? So I can hear her talk about dicks the entire time and all the whore talk she does? She should just cut to the chase and either do JAV or get fucked by a guy already. She clearly craves it and wants it.
>>41194257
English is my native tongue, dickweed. The same tongue I use on your mom.

>>41194386
Oh hi Noelschizo. BTW Noel streams more than Marine.

What do you guys think of the Twitter name emojis? Do you think it makes her uncomfortable when people have Noel's crosswords and Canan's microphone? I don't recall her ever mentioning it but I may have missed it.

>>41194386
>So I can hear her talk about dicks the entire time and all the whore talk she does?
Oh no she makes the occasional dirty joke!
You are fucking retarded

>English is my native tongue, dickweed.
Your understanding of English grammar is atrocious.

>>41194426
She probably doesn't mind as long as it's a mutual agreement that no one ever connects the two. It really is to be expected that a lot of fans will follow both.

>>41194366
Its because she finds it difficult to focus on the movie/show and stream at the same time.

>>41194426
I don't think she minds plus people do it with other Holos and their roommates.

>>41194426
She doesn't mind, just look at her interacting with "famous" fans like Dani or the artists.
Though something interesting she said in the community stream from like Saturday and no one mentioned, that while the whole thing about calling her viewers "unfaithful" for watching other girl streamers is mostly a joke she did admit that seeing viewers send comments of love and praise to other girls as much as they do her does make her feel a bit different about them, might not give them as much of a preferential treatment.
So if anything what she would mind is seeing other oshi marks that aren't hers.

>>41194447
>occasional
It's like every other word out of her mouth is something perverted. That's all she is now, just a dirty whore. She stopped doing anything cute like cooking or drawings and now it's just sex sex sex. Even that time she did draw during her birthday stream it was a fucking dick. She rot her brain with all her sexual desires and now we've gone too far with her titfucking a dildo and trying to jam it in her pussy. What happened to cute Hinami-chan?

>>41194542
Her singing was cute today

>>41194542
You really aren't helping your case. Why is your grammar so shit?

>>41194542
>It's like every other word out of her mouth is something perverted
You just described Marine

>>41194542
>doing lewd as fuck asmr while on nnd for the last couple years or so
>3 some asmr with her mics
>especially that china dress one
>paizuri with liquid pre-rule change
>what happened

The fuck? Did we watch the same streams? It was always there, she just never had the means to do more until recently. And it was kinda clear she was stuck doing the same things on nnd for awhile. Fantia only did oh so much and she basically stopped doing short videos for that.

>>41194591
Please choose a different insult. Your /hlg/ is showing and it's not helping your case. I'm not insulted, just confused why this douchebag can't actually insult me.

>>41194542
She still does cute stuff you just choose to ignore it. Her singing was cute today. Her reactions to the games was cute. Her playing with her hamsters is cute. There are plenty of cute moments in her monthly zatsudans.
She has always been perverted, before any of us started watching her she was perverted. You can go look at her old tweets if you don't believe me.
Being cute and being perverted are not mutually exclusive things.


>>41194610
She has always been perverted, I don't get what this retard is complaining about.
https://youtu.be/OFa4zuotefQ

Why do we have this thread anymore, it's less about her and more about arguing with the same trolls over and over.

>>41194709
Be the change you want to see anon.
Talk about her.
I really want her to play that Fist of the North Star fighting game.

>>41194734
That but this fighting game instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mgWsAf8FCg

Never ever though

>>41194775
I meant boxing game. She has done fitbox as Canan and ringfit as Noel so its possible she could play it.
You are right about her never playing a fighting game though

>>41194709
Because this thread is filled with EOPs, the anon above tried to talk about the watch along and community stream but no one cared. I was asleep so I missed it but I have the same complaint as here and Noel's /vt/ split. Nobody wants to talk about streams, they just want to fight.

>>41194825
That I know, its mostly a joke on the fact that HNK fighting game is broken as fuck and would be hilarious to see her attempt it. Otherwise the closest HNK game she could theoretically play since they have sega permissions would be Lost Paradise. Which could work?

>>41194865
>Otherwise the closest HNK game she could theoretically play since they have sega permissions would be Lost Paradise.
Or that shitty mobile game that Korone played
>Which could work?
She would probably like it imo. Its basically Yakuza but HnK

Has she tested out her audio equipment to see if there is interference like the last place?

>>41194901
She said it would take until next month up get settled completely and test them.

>>41194901
She's next to her JAV studio so there's a lot of sex through the wall.

Is it confirmed that she's gonna do succubus roleplay for the next FC stream? Kinda doesn't make sense if she goes that route given that a succubus stream would be more fitting for October than September. I for one would like her to use the cop costume one more time. She can either be an S cop berating and sexually torturing the suspect (which would be us, the viewers) or she can be an M cop that's been mentally broken by the suspect and is doing sexual acts for our pleasure.

>>41195509
I wish she did collabs and that Rika still did lewd streams.
Imagine a collab with her as a cop and Rika as a prisoner

>>41194837
>Nobody wants to talk about streams, they just want to fight.
There are a few people who talk about streams, it's just that most folks here never engage with those people. And while I wouldn't say that people come to Noel/Canan threads to fight, I will say that there are obvious baitposters who come and there are people retarded enough to try and engage with them. I don't blame those retards though, boobas make people stupid.

>>41177158
It's not a lie.

>>41195522
>Rika
Wait, which one? There are two lewd ASMR girls that have that name. You talking about Mel's roommate?

>>41195540
Yes, Mel's roommate

>>41195509
Yes
https://canan8181.com/live/smYkRScVmpURirVxY5bQ2V9B
>堕ちこぼれサキュバスがキミの白濁液を搾り取る精が出る攻め耳舐め
>Fallen Succubus Squeezes Your White Fluid...
Well maybe not fallen? I don't know how to translate that, loser succubus? It's supposed to be like those doujins where the succubus acts all superior and confident but turnos out to be an unexperienced virgin in the end, she joked how somehow all of the scenarios she manages to come up with end up with "unexperienced girl being taught" .
And she said she doesn't want to ever repeat costumes, both her own personal feelings but also because there would be people complaining about it.

>>41195587
>White Fluid
Why is she like this?

>>41195587
>but also because there would be people complaining about it.
Those people are gay

>>41195605
Yeah dumb, should just say cum, like that's the whole reason she got a new site

>>41195609
Just the anti side trying to find "legitimate" complaints
>I'm paying all this for FC but only get a reused costume?

>>41195616
I'm thinking she might use the first 15 mins or so as a sample on NND or YT and she's too lazy to change the descriptions. Can't be talking about cum on NND or YT

>>41195587
>And she said she doesn't want to ever repeat costumes, both her own personal feelings but also because there would be people complaining about it
Well, she did reuse the black nurse outfit from 2019 for a 2021 stream. Only difference was the color of the bra she was using. However, she did mention that the black nurse outfit was really popular so that could be an exception.
Fucking sucks that some costumes are just gonna get tossed to the wayside. The most recent police officer costume, the Halloween costume from last year, her nun costume from 2020, and the black v-bottomed swimsuit from 2021are all costumes I'd love to see again for an FC stream. It sucks that her antis have such say and that they are such massive faggots. Truly the type of men that should have their dicks chopped off so that they can't procreate. World might be a better place if that were so.

Is NND not loading for anyone else?

>>41195689
works for me

>>41195656
But the new YouTube rules... Does she not know about them?

>>41195587
This is so fucking corny. She really does get her ideas from doujins and hentai.
But she'll be using the fake cum so we'll see what she does with that, usually she just pours it on her tits.

>>41195713
>Please be gentle in chat
Always gets me after the time she wanted chat to be aggressive and ended with her feelings hurt and she was sad for a few days and avoided Canan. She's not an S or an M.

>>41195620
It sucks.
I like the idea of her playing out storylines over several streams but she can't really do that because of this.
Maybe she could use similar outfits with the same theme but it still kind of limits her.
The nun arc where she first did a normal ASMR as a nun and then a nun earlicking stream was really hot.

I sometimes wish I stopped at Noel, finding out and following Canan has really had it's ups and downs but it's like opening Pandora's Box, you can go back.

>>41195777
>can
Can't

>>41195734
At this point it seems like she'd prefer her partner to not speak or interact at all during sex. So no dirty talk, hair pulling, spanking, or rough sex. Just plain ol' vanilla, christian sex.

>>41194709
In my honest opinion, thread should just become an ASMR thread. You can talk about Canan but also invite discussion about Macoto and Rizuna. When she does Holo cosplay, Jesus, my dick.
https://twitter.com/rizunya/status/1517272483971629057
But when it's only Canan/Noel, you'll get this. Simps fighting trolls and so on. It gets tiresome.

>>41195844
She wants pillow talk though.

>>41195875
Why not try it then once this thread dies? Might be good for those of us looking for new suggestions.

She looks great but she has to stop cosplaying as girls with bigger chests then hers. The Cowkini Fauna cosplay was good but her tits are so small that it took me a second to even realize that she was cosplaying Cow Fauna. Like, even in the pic you posted, she's just not big enough in the chest to be Chloe. Everything else is great though.

>>41195875
She needs to cosplay Suisei, Kanata, Shion or Laplus and stop trying to do big tits characters.

>>41195905
Didn't she already do a lewd ASMR as Suisei? Or am I thinking of Koyori? Anyways, it'd be surprising if she didn't. Suisei is one of the more lusted after holos. I mean, people call her Suisex for a reason.

>>41195912
She's done a lot on YouTube, Gura too, but lewd streams/videos it's only been Lamy, Marine, Chloe, Koyori and Aqua I think, plus some Iroha pictures.

>>41195925
Then it makes even less sense that she's never done Suisei. She even has the most normie outfit out of all of them and their body types are the same. I wonder if it's because Suisei is such a prude on lewd depictions of herself.

>>41195959
Maybe she finds big tits sexier, or has a complex about them, I mean, look at that fucking avatar on the subchannel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VHCq0IIrms

>>41195875
I would be open to a Canan/Macoto/Rika thread but no Rizuna.

>>41195978
Yeah judging on the avatar she has a complex. Probably hates that she's flat. Wonder if she'd ever get implants using her viewers donations

>>41196026
Why?

>>41196233
I don't like Rizuna and her fans are annoying.

>>41196260
I don't know anything about her or her fans.

>>41196260
She's the same as Noel if she hadn't found hololive, the same low self-steem and calling herself a loser 喪女 during the talk sections, only difference is she streams like every 3 days.
If by fans you mean the annoying guys on /t/ then that's meaningless, her actual fanbase is the same shit as Canan, lonely guys.

>>41195875
Could you imagine if Noel cosplayed as Holomems, that would be weird, right?

>>41193928
>>41193954
It's quite revealing in 3D. Hope she's okay showing that much skin.

her tweet feels like ntr

>>41197845
How?

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1569951720620572673
She really acts like everyone doesn't follow her on both accounts. I guess she needs to keep appearances.

>>41194426
I've thought of removing mine or using an alt on Canan and use my main account on Noel but I've followed both for a while that I feel bad about dropping her on one. But she probably wouldn't even notice, I doubt she even knows I exist.

Alright, let me get this straight, we're paying either 5k or 10k yen per month in member fees to see her latest FC stream, but once a month passes that FC stream goes down and we have to pay another 5k yen to rent it for a month? So that means we'd be paying a total of 10k or 15k yen for the sum up the member fee and the rental fee? That's fucking ridiculous. She should just archive like she does with her NND streams. I'd rather know that I can't view her last FC streams at all then having this stupid option available. I might consider just torrenting the stream once it goes down from the FC site. I'm not going to be paying 5k yen multiple times just to have the option of watching an older stream.

>>41198328
I'm fine with renting it but it should be like 500 yen or 10k tops. But I archive all her stuff so I won't be renting but I agree it's ridiculous pricing.

>>41198328
You should be ripping it yourself, or torrenting it you don't know how, she acknowledges that people keep personal copies, though she probably believes people are literally recording the screen instead of the site being so bad you can just rip it for free.
The renting stuff is mostly for people that join late, so they don't get the "benefit" of being able to watch everything when they join, otherwise people would just wait and join a year later or something.

>>41187012
Why are they mentioning this now, YT made this change months ago.

>>41199542
Did they? Last time it was about underage ASMR but now it's targeting everything they deem sexual.

Wonder if she'll talk today about how awkward the masturbation was in the last FC, maybe if someone sent a donation complaining about it.

>lagging

And this is the website that's probably taking like hundreds of dollars a month in their cut.
The stream can't even fucking start.

>>41199816
*hundreds of thousands
Fuck

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1570037819653128194
>delayed
Jesus fuck, now lets see Noel getting delayed too.

FUCK DWANGO

Has there been a single stream on this dogshit site that actually ran without any problems? NIconico has one of the worst user experiences of any site but at least it actually works. What the fuck is wrong with this one?

>>41199886
>What the fuck is wrong with this one?
Japanese coding

Ok it's still happening in an hour.

>>41199928 (me)
More like right now
>it's still not working
This site is going to kill her

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1570046775914041347
God damn it...

She's live now in community stream.

She's crying with this imagine if she found out about the thousands of people getting it directly from the site.

Man I really hope this shit doesn't kill her motivation to do lewd stuff, at least move to somewhere else.
But the problem is she's probably stuck here because of the promised continuos subscription rewards, bet there's some contract keeping her there for a year at least.

What's going on? I just woke up.

>>41200456
The FC stream didn't work at 22:00, they told her if she made a new frame it would, she did at 22:30 and it still didn't work, now she's on a community stream and cried for a bit.

>>41200479
Nice!
Is it the site or her new place?

>>41200508
Seems to be the site, what's weird is why people like Riz and Makoto are fine but she has so many problems.

>>41200443
Yeah she literally just said this, she has to stick with it for at least a year.
This fuckers are scamming her at this point.

I think the last time I heard her crying was the when the hamsters dies?

I think the last time I heard her crying was when the hamsters died? I really hope the succ stream goes fine.

>>41200591
She cries a lot. Last was when she was talking about how bad her vacation was a few community streams ago.
Hardest I've heard her cry was either the hamster or her meltdown on her birthday but apparently she was a lot worse in 2019-2020 around the holidays but I got into Hololive late 2020- early 2021, it was a gradual fall.

>>41200681
Wait, which vacation? When she went to Disney with holos?

>>41200726
This last one during the move.

>>41200681
I only heard about her birthday meltdown but didn't see it, was the 19/20 holiday also her crying about being single? If so it's probably going to be worse and worse the closer she is to 30.

>>41193245
I get people have other lives, but I would be kinda dissapointed if there werent any people working at HL who ended up becoming friends. Mainly because the more I see of the RM the more you see people are alone and miserable, you would think they get a bunch of friends due to such similar backgrounds but nope.

>>41200521
That is weird that it's only her. If it was the website then it should be everyone but it's only her. Maybe she's just trying to do too much at too high of quality and the site can't handle it.

Even with stuff like this, she is definitely happier now than she was in 2019/2020

>>41200753
Christmas 2019 was her crying about pretty much everything

>>41200758
But this was a talk only stream, it didn't have camera and it's not like it was laggy, just straight up didn't start.
Bet they're doing some shady shit, like knowing she was only supposed to stream on the end of the month and allocated the resources somewhere else but this donation stream came out of nowhere, we know it's all on the same server since when the site went down on her first stream Macoto's and the general NN+ sites also went down.

>>41200753
>If so it's probably going to be worse and worse the closer she is to 30.
She already said she wasn't going to do a holiday stream this year. Probably going to spend it with her friends and family. Hopefully she goes home and meets her brother's wife and visits her mom.
She also mentioned a work event so there'll probably be stuff for Hololive around the holidays and they always do a big dinner and stuff. There'll probably be a concert or something, I wouldn't be surprised.

>>41200822
The fact that she no longer streams on Christmas/New Years and spends it with friends and Hololive stuff is a good thing.

>>41200753
Some holos like Shion or Chloe still do the "I'm so lonely I don't have any friends" thing, either they're pretending to gain points or they really just consider them coworkers and not friends.

>>41200855
Shion seems quite isolated so she is probably telling the truth. Hardly anyone talks about her.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-09-13/manga-artists-vtubers-fear-japan-new-invoice-system-invites-loss-of-privacy/.189600
Sorry if she's discussed this, I don't catch many community streams but this is pretty big and could impact her.

>>41200822
She said the reason she might not stream on Christmas is because of a "work thing", so likely Cover is planning something big like Holosummer for Christmas, and she's definitely the type that would join that.
And it's only on the actual Christmas Eve, she still promised a stream right after or before.

>>41200876
I think I heard the word Invoice and something about the YouTube ASMR thing yesterday too, but didn't catch it very well, didn't seem to talk about it for too long though.

>>41200876
>The Ministry of Finance is reportedly not considering countermeasures for privacy-related issues, responding that it did not believe that listing a person's real name is "highly risky personal information."
Yeah, this guy clearly doesn't understand the age of the internet or what schizo stalkers can do with just a name. Love it when they show how out of touch they are.

>>41200855
If I recall correctly, Shion was formally diagnosed with depression and part of that involves turning inwards and distancing yourself from others, as well as perceiving things more negatively than they are; for instance, underestimating the number and strength of your relationships.

No idea about Chloe though.

>>41200994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDBhy28_n78
Chloe I'm saying it based on this.
And well Noel is also one of them, during the Direct watch along on the It Takes Two part she was like "co-op only? I don't have anyone to play that with" so yeah...
Has she ever talked about playing games with holos offline or is it always collabs? They talk about staying up all night in the shiraken discord but now with the PR twitter and the Kyoto collab those feel like they're actually business meetings

>>41201107
She probably said that to be discreet about Noel. She knows she has friends in Hololive and could play it with them. But if she said "I have friends from work I could play with" chat would ask questions.

>>41200855
Marine has issues with lonelyness and is pretty miserable about turning 30, Matsuri also hinted that Marine may be miserable she is 30 and not married.
Streamers are pretty isolated and socializing as an adult is difficult given work life disrupts routines and your old friends drift apart as a result so I believe them. I just think they are dumb for not spending time together as friends since other pople in the company would be more understanding of your problems and easier to talk with.

For Noel she evenw ent on a trip with Miko, Suisei and Flare so it's not like she has no options to talk to people.

>>41201107
Man if the friendships really are just some business thing off stream that would be depressing. I get people won't get along especially in a company with 60+ streamers it's inevitable, but you should still be able to find friends among co-workers.

>>41201220
I wonder if Noel views them as friends or coworkers. She seems close to Flare and her gen and there's Matsuri and Choco but I wonder where the line between friends and coworkers.
I think a pretty good tell was back in June when she was having technical difficulties and stuff was breaking she got really stressed and burnt out. So Nene took her out to dinner and another day Choco invited her over and cooked for her off camera. I think that qualifies as a friend.

>>41201248
Everyone seems to say Noel is kind, but it's just why would she go camping with Sui, Miko and Flare if she wasn't friends? Like why spend free time with people you hate? Nene and Choco also sound like friends towards her.

I get there is a difference between friends and associates and co-workers, but to me the difference has always been "would I choose to spend time with them outside of work?" Yes = friend, no = co-worker/associate, with the onyl exception being you sometimes go along with co-workers outside of work hours due to not fucking up the office environment.

>>41201295
NTA but sometimes when you are depressed you can feel lonely even while surrounded by people friends & family who love & care for you.
Human psychology is a fickle thing.

>>41201295
That's the thing about Hololive is it's pretty customary to go out for dinner after a recording. It's a Japanese thing, after work going out for drinks and food and it's bad manners to turn them down.

>>41201295
Thing is the line of "outside work" blurs when they share all their "off-work" interactions, like that thing Kanata did of going out to some hotel with Marine, Noel and Ayame streaming all night, could have been just a trip but it turned into a whole stream project that only made Kanata depressed when it didn't go how she wanted.

>>41200878
Pretty sad that she streams on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day or New Years. She should be with friends and family for the holidays. Not making lonely men cum.

>>41200876
Is this the end of Canan or Noel? Will she have to pick between the two?

>>41201694
No, how would dropping one of them help?

>>41201694
I mean, in both cases they could lead to her being doxxed, picking makes no difference. Cover as a company might have more options to stop this, like making the talents full time employees, but Canan isn't an employee of Dwango/NND/FC, she'd always be a contractor due to the nature of her work.
That being said, wait and see how she responds. I don't know the specifics of the law and I'm sure she'll be in contact with a lawyer who knows more about this than anyone here.

>>41200926
It always makes me relieved that no matter what country you read about, even a place that a lot of people dream about like Japan, the government there has no idea what the fuck their doing and is completely out of touch with the citizesn there. So it's not just my country that's an absolute shitshow!

>>41201354
>>41201381
Ok, but the camping is more than just drinks, so I think that they are actual friends.

>>41201608
IIRC Japanese are autistic when it comes to Christmas and view it as a lovers holiday instead of a family one. Just grab some KFC and check into a love hotel with your SO. Honestly I find the idea of Japanese Christmas quite depressing, I much prefer the family stuff even if I have issues with some family.

>>41201915
I think Shiraken are friends too. Seeing how Noel acts with Flare, Miko, Suisei, and Polka. But other Holos she doesn't interact with often. She tries to be friendly to everyone and they are friendly back. Hololive has given Noel so much that she tries to give back as much as she can.

>>41201915
Makes sense if they aren't a largely christian country historically.

I doubt we'll ever know what goes on in her head, if she even knows herself.

>>41201936
She is also part of that group with Lamy, Marine and Korone,

>>41200876
Surely there will be a loophole or weak enforcement for this.

>>41201958
Lamy has no friends, she cried about it a couple streams ago. I think every Holo is just depressed.
I imagine this is a very lonely job, you can't be in an intimate relationship and even though you have thousands of followers who shower you with love in the end it's just names and text on a screen. Probably feels pretty hollow.

>>41201980
This applies to all streamers. I think, for a lot of them, some general exercise and offline life would cure most of their problems. Not even necessarily sex, just doing friend stuff like others mentioned. Sitting inside all day rots the brain and body.

>>41202001
Hopefully she'll feel better after the camping trip. Get away from all the noise and enjoy time with her friends. Hopefully they can go dark and get away from screens and the internet and not feel completely depressed. She might just need a detox.

Report.
>>>/vt/33184455

>>41202101
>tried to fuck her own brother
Man I really want to see her doing another imouto roleplay on the FC, wonder how far she would go.

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1569951720620572673
How does this even happen? It's like they're only fucking up her app.

>>41202200
And I forgot to say, I believe her about the app but this tweet definitely feels like damage control after planning a Canan stream in the day she was supposed to come back originally.

>>41201980
>Stay inside so no vitamin D
>Little exercise
>Stress over numbers and whatever bullshit youtube throws at you
>Constantly compared to other girls
I can see why it causes issues even before they get into the huge disparity of 1000s of fans behind a screen and an empty room when you turn it off.

>you can't be in an intimate relationship
You can, just keep it private. Multiple girls have BFs or are married and after the initial Rushia leak Cover even said what they did in private was their business.

I would also say streamers may have more problems when they are older if they have no experience beyond streaming. You kinda notice it here and there with some people who clearly hate their jobs now but they are locked in due to doing it for so long.

>>41201295
It the same culture where coworkers are forced to go out drinking with their boss after work. The Holos could view each other as friends or coworkers hanging out and drinking after work. Everyone is nice and agree to almost anything, nobody wants to be known as the office bitch by saying no.

>>41202200
can't she just use a different hosting provider?

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1570223100431826944
Maybe Noel should play this too, loves DQ but doesn't have time for an MMO

>>41204872
Hosting for what? That tweet is about how her Cover app giver her Live2d weird expressions, she's also always losing shit like not being able to use the heart eyes, don't see it happening so much with other holos.

>>41205125
>>>/vt/33185111
Perhaps.

>that fantia update
Poorfag son looked at the free pic but holy fuck! She really needs to do something tights and ass focused on the FC.

>>41206135
I'm in a good mood so I'll throw you a bone. Don't tell Canan. Link only last an hour.
https://litter.catbox.moe/6d8rq5.png

>>41206209
Nice
well it's all going to be on kemo before long anyway but thanks
I pay for NND but never bothered with fantia since the pictures were just the same thumbnail rejects from the same angle 20+ times, but with these new things she's trying it might become worth it.
I'll wait to see what she does with the new room, wonder if she has it with furniture already.

>>41206232
I think it's worth it because you get higher quality videos and archives and the images are nice. But if you're paying for FC and NND maybe it's not worth it for some

She should just marry me.

her ass looks so big and round with that pantyhose

Why did canan tweet that she cried

>>41207080
I need it on my face

>>41207115
Because she cried on the community stream and she thinks everyone listens to those

>>41207080
Just so everyone knows what we're talking about

>>41207115
just her being a doomer

Does anyone have the cop outfit fan art by Hoshinegai? She used for the thumbnail of the FC that didn't happen and now I can't find it.
Want to use it for the next OP.

>>41210865
No and I think they deleted it

>looking for other art to use
https://twitter.com/javierdumaguing/status/1568271425718591489
Damn, what would she think of this?

>>41210920
Well I know exactly what I think of it...<3

Maybe this, too lewd?

>>41210957
As long as it doesn't break the NSFW rule its fine

>>41211078
I'll use it then, maybe make the next thread when the NND stream for this weekend gets announced, then it should last until next week when the succubus FC hits.

Oh there's also fan art of the baby play episode.

>>41211145
Oh yeah the internet problems were around that time as well

https://youtu.be/7SMAHkOHH08
Why is this at such an odd time? Is there a Canan stream I'm not seeing afterwards?

>>41211894
Its not that odd, she has streamed around that time a lot in the past. A lot of her DQ 10 streams were around that time during the week

>>41195875
Make your own ASMR thread then, I've no intention of talking about any other ASMR girl other than Noel

>Oversea fans have been getting physical goods
I haven't gotten mine, but I can't edit the questionnaire. I think this is why I got digital goods despite putting in a Tenso address but it's greyed out and I can't edit it. Do I need to contact them?

>>41211145
God that stream was so fucking weird.

>>41212234
Yeah, there's no way to edit the survey. I don't understand why not. I guess I'll contact support

This guy is oversea member and is followed and liked by Canan and got his physical goods.
https://twitter.com/Functionally32/status/1570480401222868992

>>41212608
>ちょっと高かった
Yeah, I wouldn't even bother, for my country it would be almost as much as the subscription.
I'd rather spent that on Noel goods.

>>41212714
I wonder how high it is, I would like a physical membership card, the polaroid doesn't matter to me but that would be nice as well. Everything could fit into an envelope so I didn't think it would be that high for postage, just a couple bucks for a stamp.