/jp/ - Otaku Culture

New Mei stuff:
"Infection Onset" Satoshi:
https://files.catbox.moe/rtkdux.txt

>>41009944

>>41009947
Also new Rena assets.

>>41009955

>>41009873
I've seen many maidos in various anime but none of them could surpass shannon

>>41009961
Surprisingly realistic moon.

>>41009964
https://voca.ro/1oonAs7IYn5B

>>41009947
Cute!

Rena....Rena has a silly request please post art of Rena's friends and other cute characters eating

I'm working on the Rosatrice Manifesto first draft. While I'm writing this, I seem to be drifting into a very casual tone and just funning around. I started to think, do you guys care? I'm joking around and having a yuk about it all, but I thought that maybe I should take Italianon's lead and make it a more formal paper. Do you guys think my personal thoughts and feelings might detract or add to the experience? The more I write the more I lose focus on proving anything and end up just gushing over itty bitty things or fuck around making commentary.

>>41009961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmYSv52c0Ug

>>41010368
disgusting hag

>>41010368
Kill yourself already, cancerous monster

>>41010450
>already
You make it sound like I post here all the time. Is someone else undertaking this project as well?

>>41010443
Hag, milf, it's all the same. And I love it.

>>41010537
Stop pretending to be esl like me

>>41010644
I don't understand. I'm not esl, nor am I trying to pretend that I am. I just wanted to know if people cared for a formal or informal Rosatrice Manifesto.

>>41010664
if youre not esl you have big problems my man

>>41010672
such as?

>>41010681
being american

>>41010685
I don't understand how that's a detriment to my communication skills or my manifesto. Would you like to cite some text in my posts to highlight what exactly you have a problem with?

>>41010697
nobody who speaks english speaks like you do, especially on imageboards
you sound like an elite autist

>>41010704
I'm not here to sound cool, I'm here to talk about what I like, and what I like is Rosa. If you have a problem with how I type or the fact I'm American, those are besides the point. If I cared more about fitting in, I'd have joined a discord, but I don't cause I don't care. This is the last I'm going to talk about this if it doesn't directly relate to the manifesto.

>>41009398
https://files.catbox.moe/17qeky.rar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soQjR5_GHXI

Guys who do you think the figure in the dark is in 0:44??

>>41010791
Why would you do that.. poor artist

>>41010878
you're almost 2 years too late

>>41010760
Ok italianon..

will sotsugyou considered as masterpiece in 10 years

>>41010791
>>41010141
Cute..

>>41010332
Ohohoho! Satoko has killed Rena and now Satoko will post here.

>>41010791
Poor or lucky child?

>>41010791
nice

>>41011515
don't post shit art ever again.

>>41011700
what have i told you about replying to me

>>41011704
yeah? well, what you gonna do about it?

>>41009955
So I guess this Rena suggests a new Hinamizawa Syndrome type banner, like Dark Awakening.

Mon, Shmon, Sonozak

>>41011843
Kiss you

>>41012045
keiichi wouldn't survive the three of them

>>41012088
Yeah, I don't think Keiichi could fight off twins and their mom

>>41012088
Wait you meant sexually didn't you

>>41012174
doesn't really matter

>>41009944
Wait... after reading that now I'm second guessing myself. Satoshi in canon did kill his aunt with his bat, right? The killing weapon is supposed to be his bat. But then it's somehow just fine afterwards. Stop, Akasaka, stop. Your theory will destroy the original story!

>>41009947
What's he thinking right now?

>>41012282
Satoshi didn't use the bat at school, he borrowed a spare from Irie. Imagine if the murder weapon had his name on it.

>>41012315
He's thinking about how cute Shion is.

>>41012315

>>41012344
Oh, OK, makes sense.

>>41010368
Burn in hell.

>>41012344
Nonsense. He totally just took it back and put in the closet at school just before he came out of the closet.

Would you have liked sotsugou if it was about Satoko trying to save Rika instead of killing her

>>41012661
Save her from what?

>>41012672
I don't know, there are many possibilities, Eua could still be the antagonist

>>41012282
>Satoshi in canon did kill his aunt with his bat, right?
Yeah. There's a segment in Meakashi that shows his preparations, and while we don't see the actual event, Ooishi mentions during the investigation that Tamae's face was completely destroyed by the culprit, which hints towards a strong personal grudge being involved.
The bat ending up in the classroom without showing any damage is probably just an old plot hole.
>>41012344
I think he was supposed to have asked Irie if he could borrow his own bat, with the weird phrasing stemming from his own conflicted feelings about using it for murder.

>>41012703
you may be right, I guess it could've been his usual bat. seems weird for Satoshi to use a murder weapon with his name on it and keep it around. Like did he just wash the blood and brains off it and bring it back to school?
Although maybe it would've been more suspicious if the cops found out his bat was missing while he was the main suspect

>>41012742
>Like did he just wash the blood and brains off it and bring it back to school?
Probably.
Satoshi was never much for common sense.

>>41012785
he was also a schizo by then

>>41012703
>Tamae's face was completely destroyed by the culprit
That's giving me Shannon vibes, honestly. Could the military, the police, or Irie have produced a cadaver with a similar body and given Satoshi some kind of hallucinogen before gaslighting him into thinking he committed murder? Perhaps he witnessed something that he shouldn't have and needed to go into a witness protection program, or maybe he needed to be disappeared instead. If Tamae actually did survive, she could have simply had a messy divorce with Teppei and the implications of DV made him flee the village. If Tamae didn't like either child, she may have left them behind with Teppei. If Satoshi needed to be disappeared because he was a witness, that brings the Irie Clinic into suspicion. Hinamizawa Syndrome and the basement could both be excuses to keep a witness silent but still alive in a comatose state. If Satoshi was instead placed in a witness protection program, that lends more innocence to the Irie clinic but Comatoshi becomes too much of an unreliable narration for that idea to be taken seriously unless we're in golden truth territory with the police, the military, and the clinic. Again, too unreliable to be taken seriously.

>>41012487
Why? I don't get why the first post I make here gets such blatant hate for no particular reason. Do you guys just not like Rosa?

>>41013044
The TLDR is that there was never really clear evidence of Satoshi's murder, and he could be innocent.

>>41013044
>That's giving me Shannon vibes, honestly. Could the military, the police, or Irie have produced a cadaver with a similar body and given Satoshi some kind of hallucinogen before gaslighting him into thinking he committed murder?

Aside from the fake body part, that's exactly Akasaka's theory in that Mei side story posted above. He's questioning various details from the incident while bringing up the idea Satoshi actually didn't kill his aunt, and speculating someone somehow, through drugs or some other means, just led him to believing that. I love when Mei reads like a schizo post.

>>41012703
>The bat ending up in the classroom without showing any damage is probably just an old plot hole.
Didn't he use lumber to kill his aunt?

>>41013433
Nah, he planted his bat nearby and would obviously use that. It's not explicitly named as such, but the scene in Meakashi mentions it as something that he was constantly carrying with him for a while, which we know to be the Satoshibat.

>>41013237
You have probably been posting here for months or years. Good chance you are trolling.
If you aren’t then Rosa is not particularly unpopular even though she is a filthy money grabbing, man hungry child beater. It’s not like she’s fat.
But if you are going to jump in every thread and post your manifesto fifteen times in full caps lock that’s a different story.

>>41013237
I would like to read a Rosatrcie manifesto because I still don't get how it can possibly be compatible with ep7.

mii.. sex? what is that?

>>41013586
I'll show you

>>41013740
you will?!

>>41013862
Yes I will now pucker those lips and we can start.

>>41013524
Wait are people actually confusing me for Italianon?
Despite typing clearly? Despite not using a shitty unused sprite? Despite me not talking in all-caps? Despite not announcing myself as an Italian at a certain time of the day? But still I must be him?
Just because I wanted to make my own manifesto as a joke?

Christ alive, you guys are fucked.

I am just someone who has seen this guy around before and thought it might be funny to have my own casual version of a manifesto.
>>41013553
Episode 1-4 are planned to be a cakewalk. Everything only gets worse afterwards, but I have a little bit of a working theory that might pull me all the way there. I'm rereading the whole thing as I write this up. I finished chapter 1 and am writing up the solutions.

Again, I just wanted to know if people would prefer the tone of the manifesto to be relaxed like you're talking to me as a friend or serious as if I was a strict lecturer giving you the bones laid out.

>>41014141
Post it entirely in-character as an Umineko.

Thunking...

I finished the question arcs and I think I've figured out most of the mysteries. Does Ryukishi really need four more episodes to answer everything? Should I read past episode 4? Umineko was fun but Ange drained me emotionally.

>>41014424
the best is yet to come

Horny Rika is fertilized

>>41014446
How? Like I said, I think I've figured out the main question Beato asked at the end of EP4. Beato = Shannon/Sayo's schizo persona and Kinzo's bastard daughterwife, she fell for 12 year old Battler and hoped that he'd save her from constant rape but he forgot about her for 6 years straight.

>>41014587
>he fell for it
The answer arcs have the best, and only good, character.

>>41014633
Furudo Erika?

>>41014587
>he thinks he's solved it
oh no

>>41014633
Nice try but I'm convinced that Beatrice's motivation has something to do with being raped by Kinzo, she referenced Kinzo tying her up 4-5x throughout the story. Two of those references are right before discussing Battler's sin. What? Is Battler's sin that he doesn't like bondage?

Erika is for ryona

>>41010368
>I'm working on the Rosatrice Manifesto
already exists as a nine hour video essay

>>41014988
I can't believe Battler cut off Ange's arm for more magic power...

>>41014587
>spoiler
partially correct, and better than the actual answer in that. you've made the mistake of giving the culprit an actual reason to be a psycho, for example.

>>41015123
Another Junko...

>>41010368
I'm fine as far as it's about Rosa. As for the rest, suit yourself.

Tomato returned to life.

>>41014141
I would like your manifesto to be laid out in a coffin after an unceremonious burning.
That’s said I might look at it once if you do it an informal joking style.

>>41015470
Cute

>>41015525
why do you always make text enter text enter text enter then submit?

>>41015556
Let me check
Text
Fat Ange text
Fat
Wow that’s fat
And submit!

Fatty.

>>41014141
I for one would like to see what you can come up with

>>41012045

>>41015608
same, as someone working on their own manifesto it would be interesting to compare notes

>>41015568
your sense of humor is shit

>>41015707
That’s you’re
Sort it out chubby chaser.

>>41015624
I think drop the manifesto name. Whatever you do it’s a parody of Italianon and sounds like an Italian communist mistake.
How about a Proof, Or the Angetrice Solution (or whatever it is).

>>41015724
I didn't try to make a joke ass sniffer

>>41009398

>>41015895
chokeable

>>41007499
I'd rather Lactadelta

>>41015823
I’m not getting involved in your weird fetishes.
Keep your Ange ass to yourself.

>>41015972
Candy flavoured breastmilk? sign me up!

>>41014587
Eh what?

>>41016034
>projecting
this is the last picture you posted...

>>41016241
was*

>>41015972
What about Cactusdelta?

>>41014777
>be believes the red truth
cackle.wav

>>41010368
I like rosatrice, its an interesting theory. I wish people would make more cool theories but Ryu ruined it

>>41016241
Unholy nightmare

>>41016673
It's not my problem you can't handle Shkannontrice. If anything he saved us from a wave of shitty theories. Everything since then has been insane cope. Accept the end.

>>41016781
shkanontrice itself is a shitty theory

I NEED BANANA
TASTY BANANA
PUT BANANA IN MY MOUTH
TASTY BANANA
SQUEEZE BANANA

>>41016781
You and Satoko share one brain cell

>>41016831
dumb

>>41016880
And you and I share one bedroom.

>>41016973
I'm proud of you.

>>41009398
>no Ciconia in the OP
>no Ciconia in the thread
>no Phase 2
I AM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND

>>41017053
Ciconia isn't real

>>41017053
I need phase 2 before I'll even consider reading it.

>>41017059
I WILL EAT RYUKISHI07 AND DEVOUR HIS KNOWLEDGE OF CICONIA, THEN WRITE THE DAMN THING MYSELF AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>41016989
Thank you.

bros why are there no umineko hentai doujins compared to higurashi

>>41017067
Anyone saying this is outing themselves as a newfag.

>>41017147
they exist, they just never got scanned

>>41017147
Bro. I bought as many copies as I could bro. Shipped them from Japan bro. Spent all the money bro. Then I shredded them. Thank me bro. Thank me for saving you. Bro.

>>41017189
He's become the coomer he swore to destroy...

>>41016781
Only degens like Sayo and you are proof of that

>>41017189
my dick needs to beat off to natsuhi nigga

>>41017189
If one of those doujins you shredded was a Maria doujin I may have to demon you away.

>>41017212
sperg loves the cunny

>>41015470
When’s the new chapter come out?

>>41012088
>>41012188
>>41012165
Let’s be honest he’s barely survive Mion with how thirsty she is. Adding Shion is over kill.

For me? It's Ninagi Nina.

Wait a minute. I'm supossed to feel bad for Sayo for murdering her boyfriend, girlfriend and their families because she was unsure of herself?
She says that nobody loves her, but then murders the people that loves her.
I get that its because Rokkenjima Prime shows that Sayo is innocent in the real world, but still, I'm supossed to take the Scenarios as "real" in some way (which is to mean that Sayo would still murder the cousins).

Also, if the mistery of Shakanontrice was the most important part of Umineko. Then why Shannon and Kanon themselves are so irrelevant in the End??

>>41017337
because ryushitty is a hack shitty writer, that's why. by the way the later bonus content shows sayo as actually intending to kill everyone when she wrote the stories. that cruft on eps 5-6 about it being an innocent mystery game that was hijacked by some meanie was absolute bullshit.

>>41017328
Why didn't he take her up on the offer?

>>41017337
>Also, if the mistery of Shakanontrice was the most important part of Umineko. Then why Shannon and Kanon themselves are so irrelevant in the End??
Sayo is pretty much Shannon. Even Last Note of the Golden Witch shows a "good" future where Yasu was never traumatized and it's just Shannon in a school uniform.

It's just Kanon that ends up utterly shafted.

>>41017395
The same reason he’s in college and has banged either Rena or Mion yet. He’s a pansy. His perverted speech’s in Wata proves he’s a fraud.

>>41017420
>It's just Kanon that ends up utterly shafted.
He gets the worst of it, but Shannon's own character is also really affected.

The absense of George and Jessica is the most jarring part imo.

Also, Ange definitely doesn't fit at all in the plot. She is absolutely unrelated to the supossed "heart"

>>41017458
the entire story is about ange

>>41017466
>the entire story is about ange
How the rapebaby with personality issues is related to learning that her parents killed everyone?

>>41017480
have you tried reading the vn

>>41017480
The heart of the story is about Ange accepting the tragedy and moving on.

Although, yeah, she has no direct connection to Yasu's entire situation.

>>41017337
you're not meant to feel bad for her for murdering everyone, you're meant to feel bad for her being driven to that point, for having become so twisted in her logic that she eventually believes this to be the solution she wants
would you say you're meant to feel bad for rosa for being alright with sending battler out to inevitable death knowing he was innocent of what she was accusing him of, and beating her kid all the time because she needed money and was getting stressed out? no, you feel bad for her for being pushed to that point, for having fallen prey to the folly of youth and loving some dick who'd get her to sign a loan then fuck off to make her pay it for him, for having no way of dealing with the stress she feels so all her methods of doing so are destructive and only leave her feeling worse
it's not about feeling bad for what they can do or have done, because everyone on the island is capable of killing everyone else, even battler since black battler can exist. it's about their sad tales that eventually came to a bitter end all at once, that they all are full of sin, but you can still feel some remorse for the path that led them to become so broken
apart from krauss. he did nothing wrong.

My filter got italianon or whatever he is his scheme why you replying to him?

>>41017524
>you're meant to feel bad for her being driven to that point, for having become so twisted in her logic that she eventually believes this to be the solution she wants
but what if you don't feel bad for that either

>>41017547
then that's on you, not the story

>>41017524
good post except krauss perpetuated kinzo's dickish behavior on his siblings and created the preconditions for them to hate him

>>41017547
acquire empathy

>>41017524
Krauss in underrated, the man really matured a lot since his youth as a bully. He is still stupid, but he is a far better person than his siblings.

Honestly, my biggest reason to dislike Shakanontrice is that it takes away the focus from the Siblings rivality and moves it to this drama of countless magical beings and symbolism that are related to Sayo and Sayo alone.
After EP3, I legit thought we would see the family more involved. Not LESS.

She knew it all this long.

>>41017568
Sayo is Ange.

>>41017630
there are some amusing lines in new context

>>41017420
>It's just Kanon that ends up utterly shafted.
which is amazing, because he actually has a lot of seemingly significant scenes, possibly more than Shannon even. Kinzo being nice to him in 1/2, remembering Kinzo in ep 6, he's clearly the one doing the magic trick in ep 2... how often did Shannon even interact with Kinzo before like ep 7?

>>41017420
>Sayo is pretty much Shannon.
And honestly I hate this. Sayo should look like Lion.
I've seen some people theorise that Genji dyed and cut her hair so Natsuhi wouldn't be suspicious but it's not canon so who cares.
Now Shannon is forever tainted.
Kanon feels more separate, in a good way, because I prefer when I can think of them all as separate people.

>>41017554
Empathy for the cruel who never truly change or regret their actions leads to nothing but disappointment.

>>41017877
>And honestly I hate this. Sayo should look like Lion.
Yeah, I don't get why R07 seemed to favor dark haired Yasu. It just makes the basic premise of the tragedy even odder.

>>41017895
evil logic. true forgiveness cares not for what they did.

>>41017877
>Now Shannon is forever tainted.
Ok George.

>>41010368
I only care if it involves Battler fucking Rosa

>>41016241
I want to be pegged by Enji!!

>>41016241
Ange Ushiromiya my beloved.
Yes, your parents didn't kill anyone. It was a mistery that nobody knows!! Everyone is chilling in the Golden Land!!!

>>41017983
That's the entire point.

>>41015070
source?

>>41017904
I hope you forgive me if I rape and kill your whole family then

>>41015070
That rosatrice manifesto wasn't about Rosa wanting to fuck Battler though.

>>41017904
You sound like someone who welcomes refugees

>>41018137

>>41017877
making yasu pretty much just be shannon throwing a tantrum was pretty retarded, undervaluing both yasu and shannon, going from both kanon and shannon being false faces of an unknown person to us basically having known her the whole time except now she's angsty.
> Kanon feels more separate, in a good way,
Keeping Kanon untouched by this bullshit was both Ryukishi's most astounding blunder and his greatest blessing.

>>41018193
>most astounding blunder and his greatest blessing.
How exactly?
But yeah, the apparition of Yasu basically made Kanon to be "just there"

Anyone knows some other old fan theories?
I love them all.

>>41018206
is Yasu had actually been written in such a way that Kanon had actually been a significant part of her personality instead of just as Shannon throwing a tantrum (and if Kanon and Shannon's interactions had actually been written as two parts of a person talking to themselves instead of just... kind of not that) it would have been acceptable. Or if an actual reason had been given for Kanon's "creation". Instead we get a contradictory explanation from the games ("it takes two to make a worl uwu" means literally the opposite of you making an imaginary friend and that being the second person) and a hastily applied patch from the manga (it makes sense in isolation but is not reflected at all in the writing of the characters).

>>41018258
the second person was maria i thought? not kanon

>>41017337
Because that's the only part he didn't plagiarize.

>>41017859
funni

Day 401 of praying for RGD adaptation.

i think these are old tw*tter reposts but i've never seen some of them before

NEET life

>>41019201
Are you a fellow NEET, my friend?

>>41019235
only for now

>>41019257
Wonderful! Enjoy while it lasts.

>>41017904
not even the jewish god is that retarded. there are unforgivable sins and certain thresholds that cannot be crossed

Sayo never actually commited any crime, so its moot to criticize her for it.
But I still wonder how tf George and Jessica aren't more important to the plot when they were the closest persons to Sayo

>>41017337
You're supposed to see through the bullshit and realize the unassailable truth of Kinzotrice.

>>41019376
read bible

>>41019540
>Sayo never actually commited any crime, so its moot to criticize her for it.
I mean, she still rigged the bomb, even if in the end everyone died before that.

>>41019540
Sayo was an awful wretched person even if she diidn't commit any crimes. She's the personification of malicious degenerate passiveness. At every turn she sees ways to improve her life and avoids all of them, pushes all responsibility onto external people and expects then to do everything for her, to the point where she even does this to her own thoughts and emotions. She's a putrid husk of a person that only exists to drag others down into her misery and ruin their lives as well as her own.

And that's if she's even a real person at all. Notice how Clara's sob story about being bullied by maids doesn't ONCE mention Jessica, despite supposedly being her best friend and living with her for over a decade. This either leans into Jessicatrice, or it means she literally created Shannon for the explicit purpose of partitioning her only positive relationship into a split personality so she could wallow in loneliness.

>>41019643
very touching pic

>>41019623
>or it means she literally created Shannon for the explicit purpose of partitioning her only positive relationship into a split personality so she could wallow in loneliness.
Kinda based desu. This is being the ultimate emo.

>>41019262
>>41019235
>>41019257
You snobs will die soo, hopefully.

>>41019623
And if we follow that to it's logical conclusion, Sayo was completely loveless. Shannon loved George, not Saayo. Kanon loves Jessica, not Sayo. Beatrice loved Battler, not Sayo. She had three people who'd die for her and shoved them out of her life and into neat compartments where she could safely ignore them and hope they went away.
>Shannon always talks like she loves George but avoids any and all relationship progression unless George literally forces her into it
>Kanon actively rejects Jessica and pushes her away multiple times
>Beatrice would rather plan to murder her entire family and record the schemes in a series of elaborately disguised fictional stories left in literal message bottles than write Battler a letter or call him on the fucking telephone

>>41019557
that's what I should be telling you. There are multiple verses that refer to God having hatred for people. Even Christ has an unforgivable sin

>>41019665
it's the italian blood

>>41019665
well that's what happens when you're expecting to be outright rejected and mocked for your fucked up body if you decide to actually commit to someone
sayo is a very fretful woman with no self esteem to speak of, having something that could be legitimately seen as disgusting under her clothing does her no favors. it's sad she can't bring herself to have faith in those she likes, but she's not exactly had any positive parental relationships to be able to have unconditional faith in people

>>41019665
>Shannon loved George, not Saayo
Shannon is Sayo, anon

Honestly, what angers me is that the story expects me to be happy that George and Jessica stay in the Golden Land with a made-up imitation of their partners.
Like, how the fuck is this the supossed LOVE that the story tells me??????

>>41019748
You're supposed to look at the good side of things rather than dwell on the tragedy.

Although, yeah, it feels like it's easier to accept if you aren't actually invested into those characters, which makes the whole "love" stuff contradictory.

> Ha ha Eva, remember how I killed your son while he was utterly confused when his respected Uncle shot him. His face was identical to yours while father beat you

>>41019748
they are dead bro it's just ange choosing to think of them as happy in heaven

Bitches.
Whores, even.

>>41019623
>Notice how Clara's sob story about being bullied by maids doesn't ONCE mention Jessica, despite supposedly being her best friend and living with her for over a decade.
I'm telling you guys, Kanon's the one who's been on the island for the last decade. Ep 7 is just a schizo sob story Shannon made up to make herself the ultimate victim.

>>41019842
What if Shannon, on her insanity, legit started to see herself as Kanon?
Like. They're legit two different people but they're too emotionally close and too mentally broken to act like that

I wish we had witch sprites for all the Ushiromiyas

>>41019887
that's another one of my schizo theories actually

...Rosa!

Toko on the road

>>41020109
i wanna take you for a ride

> docdroid.net/lnzdHQc/

> The 6 victims were found dead in the garden shed without their faces, except Krauss and Shannon who had lost only half. This fact is very important because Beatrice said: Anyone seeing a body with only half-face would understand that he is dead  so we can use this as a weapon to conquer the declaration of Williard. George, the culprit, believed that Shannon faked her death, if he went inside the shed and saw her face he would naturally understand that she was really dead, ruining Kanon's plan.

> Battler and George saw only a part of Shannon's booody, that was essential to make Battler understand that Shannon was dead and not too much to show Shannon's face to George. In addition, when George heard of Shannon's death immediately ask to his father on which finger there was the ring, this is clearly a signal by Kanon


I'm confused. Is Shannon dead? Does Erikantrice theory imply that Shannon and Kanon are diffrent people? Or Shannon faked her death, but then what about her loosing half face ?

real ep 1 solution: as hinted, shannon is not in the shed. this allows her to run around freely killing people. most notably the reds around kanon's death- she doesn't have an alibi as one of the living, but her alibi of being dead is false. kanon and hideyoshi lying about her being there was actually a move to restrict her movements- they realized she was most likely the culprit because she left natsuhi alone because of the charm (the mystery game script, which shannon is otherwise following to some degree, had her as one of the first "victims"). only shannon would be schizo enough to care about that. if they hadn't said that she'd be able to just show up later as she pleased; now she has to stay out of sight to continue the murders (which she does).

>>41019540
>so its moot to criticize her for it.
If someone wrote fanfic about killing you and your entire family including your little 9 year old cousin just because you forgot some unimportant promise when you were a 10 year old you wouldn't criticise them at all?
That's weird.

>>41019708
>she's not exactly had any positive parental relationships
she has a fondness for Kumasawa, no?

>>41020485
still killed her like all the others (or wrote about it). the scene in our confessions is pretty fucked up.

Are there any good daki covers of bern in existence? Are there actually many for umineko as a whole? I want a new cover but can't really find anything good for her or much for the entire series, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.

>>41020821
Might have to commission one of her sadly.
More expensive but hey, more customisable too.

Beato bodypillow...

>>41020834
Where would be the best place to do that?
I wish they'd make umineko gou rather than having to commission though, would be a shit ton of fun and we'd get fuck tons more art and merch. The newest Higurashi dakis look great and I wish I was a rena/mion/rena/rikafag so I could justify the price of one.

>>41020873
>said rena twice
whoops

When ciconia phase 2?

>>41020904
never

>>41020904
ありがとうございます！
これだけずらりと並ぶと圧巻ですね！
キコニア、遅れておりますが、またどうかよろしくお願い致します！（竜
Hopefully an announcement soon.

kanon

What happened to the "Please save me" anon? Was he saved? Did he end himself? Is he just chilling somewhere else?

Kanon (tomboy)
Shannon (boy)
Battler (girl)
Beatrice (real)

>>41020969
Anon (faggot)

>>41020969
>>41019982

>>41020845
Now that's a fine lady. I wish I were worthy of her.

Captain Kawabatatrice manifesto

>aware of the secrets of the island because he does deliveries to Kuwadorian. Discovers the gold.
> hides out on the island during the storm and murders the family when they can’t escape
> sets off the bomb after he escapes with the gold on his boat.
> years later asked by Kasumi Sumadera to set a trap for Ange. Kills Amakusa and snipes Ange and the Sumadera to preserve the secrets.

Eva manages to escape the rampage but she was never aware of the captains skillful murders.
He does spot Yasu and Battler escaping on a small boat which he rams with his much bigger and faster craft.
The go under and don’t come back up so he assumes that they are dead. Tohya does survive but the he is brain damaged and thinks it was something to do with a witch.

I dedicate this truth to my beloved fisherman

>>41021019
solve her riddle and I'm sure she'll put out immediately

>>41021027
>There are no more than seventeen people on the island.

>>41021041
Because he was never ON the island.
He killed them all from his boat alone!

>>41021078
Exactly.
The VN supports the Captain Kawabatatrice theory perfectly.
The canon manga also makes it clear that Captain Kawabata was the culprit.
Many of Ryukishi’s interviews also outright state that Kawabatatrice was the real truth of Umineko.
There’s no way to disprove it.

>>41021152
finally ange manages to take her revenge by killing kawabatatrice

I'm writing page 16 and I haven't gotten past the intro. This might take a while

Yeah ok but pumping maria full of cum

>>41021441
nani

>>41021247
This gives extra weight to the ending where she shoots him. Ryukishi is a genius for giving us Kawabatatrice

Marry Shannon
Fuck Kanon
Kill Beatrice
As simple as that.

GOOD MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING AND GOODNIGHT /07/th.

>>41022106
Hello meido kun

Mari and Carmen are separate sisters. Mari is bubbly and cheerful, Carmen is suspicious and distrustful.
Momotake has a female alt named Momo. She is very unhappy with their masculine body.
Naomi had a male alt but he was "killed", causing (or through) brain damage. She now lives a half-life, incomplete, and she dresses somewhat masculine in compensation, this is a reference to Ryougi Shiki.

>>41022106
what's the appeal of wearing meido dress? at least wear kanon's outfit

>>41022116
>>41022106
can you fuck off right back to newfagcord?

>>41022298
you too>>41022302

>>41019748
It's already discussed in the VN, anon.
But it does not expect you to follow that philosophy, however, the afterlife in Japanese culture is a different thing. It's still a dysfunctional way of accommodation in a modern world because we are in the here and now (and the future). Beato wanted an aequat omnis cinis to end her suffering und trying to find hope (that Battler get the hint of his sin). She doesn't wanted a gentle way - she wanted to destroy (because of Love!).
Ange got a reset button in Magic Ending -hooray for Yukari. Interestingly, her family's suppurt in the last Episode wasn't enough to preserve the person "Ange" und Yukari still looks like "I'm so done with it I pretend to be happy and write about a funny lion".
Kinzo was very abusive of his children. The adults just grew out of it (with some relics) and started to think and work for their own interests and happiness.
Natsuhi had her strong moment and has Gohda btw... But it's understandable she wouldn't love an forced adopted incest offspring. Lion doesn't count because it's a fantasy character- something what was released from the Golden Land into the harsh und unforgiving game board.
Maria was a cult follower.

Lambda and Bern were bystanders and hadn't any influence over Sayo's emotions. Thoya credited them for culprit-san's "my life is miserable because of god's will". Or it was Tohya's strange interior monologue and Ikuko's funny metaphors about the inner action of the plot.

>>41022351
miserable

>>41022393
Retards like you belong to the oven.

>>41022419
Did i hear squeal? get out

enje is always funny but the way battler says it condescendingly in chapter 8 is hilarious

>>41020964
I looked up that thread and there was a really cringe conversation in there featuring such lines as "I wish humanity had a single neck so I could snap it." Jeez.

>>41022393
Haha, did I touch a nerve? ;)
I do not belong to the reddit com nor I sympathise with them. I didn't offend someone with in my post. You are a typical Karen because you think you can combine 1 and 1 together and complain about non-existent things. Maybe it's your general behaviour on 4chan to complain or troll about posts you cannot comprehend. You should inhale VERY deep and think before you post and maybe, just maybe you life will be a little better.

>>41022928
chuunis are an epidemic upon this thread that has never ceased

>>41022949
You sound very reddit and extremely aggressive. revaluate your life choices, sperg/italian

Magic Rika

Crazy how little expys Keiichi and Rena have

>>41021441
Page 20. With that I can now begin the first chapter...
I'm going to sleep

>>41023097
As far as Rena goes, I think it's because she's Higurashi's main mascot. Beatrice did get a lookalike in Trianthology though, but it's obviously not someone R07 throws around a lot either.

Meanwhile, Keiichi's design is just kind of generic. It'd be weird to see some secondary character popping up looking like him.

>>41023222
Well, Beatrice got a name drop in RGD and Higanbana, and Battler had a character, so we'll probably see how Ciconia will go.

the mystery would have been fair if Shannon were tomboyish or at least flat

>>41023255
Well, as far as namedrops go, Rena gets one in Haworthia.

>>41023287
It should have been acknowledged that she looks similar to Kanon, but then that would make the answer too obvious, so I can see why R07 cheated.

>>41023308
But they do look the same, especially the shapes of their heads

>>41023312
I mean the characters talking about it at some point.

>>41023357
what's the point of the triangle

>>41023369
It's a 3-pointed alignment chart which usually you would put more than 3 characters on and name the axes of but that was omitted due to laziness, post-ironic humor, or both.

>>41023369
Well there are three of them on each corner

>>41023210
I can't wait to hide and ignore your post when you finally finish. Last thing we need is more schizo fan fiction.

>>41023519
ryukishi is crying right now, you have offended him worse than all the guys he made goats in ep8

>>41023210
Looking forward to reading all of it, anon.

>>41017053
Shitconia was shitcanned.

>>41023653
No, he tired of bullshit too. That’s why he endorsed the official manga as a complete answer. In one interview he even said he would consider writing a straightforward version if Umineko one day where he would lay things out in a straightforward way (probably changes his mind by now).
He was disappointed that people didn’t like the truth. All the goats to this day disrespect this. Although in this thread it’s done mainly to annoy and troll.

Ryukishi here.
Shkannontrice. Ange is the heart. Battler was happy with Ikuko and I wanted them to be married but bitches objected. That is all. Thank you.

Day 402 of praying for RGD adaptation.

>>41024639
What are we intended to talk about? This is my projection, but I love the creativity of the community and find the wild theorycrafting fun to read and expected a similar mindset from canon creators. I can understand the opposite position as well though, even if I don't agree with it.

>>41024775
We can talk about the actual truth without needing to make up a false one. Fan fiction is just for those without the skill to create their own work and just mess up others.

>>41024720
>but bitches objected
who?

>>41024639
>Although in this thread it’s done mainly to annoy and troll
why do you immediately assume that guy's trying to troll you? someone comes up with a different interpretation of events for fun and you take it personally for some reason, as if it's a offense to yourself and to ryukishi for others to come up with different ways of reading the story
ryukishi believed that there was 'one truth', but also enjoyed seeing all the different interpretations. in answer to the golden witch he's enthusing about all the different interpretations people came up with, he gets asked about the part with george and the letters and he outright says "I won’t say what’s the truth, but I want you to think of different possibilities." because he enjoyed reading those different ways of thinking from people, even if he believed some were more aligned with 'the truth' than others
it seems like you're getting mad about other people writing theories, and deciding that ryukishi would be mad too just because he had one specific truth in mind when he wrote it. wanting to share that one truth in the manga doesn't necessarily mean he got tired of that openness, it shows he eventually decided he wanted everyone to know his one truth too so they could see umineko the way he saw it as well

>>41024869
Ikuko and Tohya were going to be married, however Ryukishi changed it when female staff members complained.

>>41024912
>>why do you immediately assume that guy's trying to troll you?
Because he is from the retarded shitposting discord, just like you.

>>41024912
He’s calling it a manifesto right? So that’s based on a troll effort for a start.

>>41024912
What a shitty Reddit tier post.

>>41024808
I see it as an exercise of love in finding additional enjoyment in a story after the truth has been discussed, but your position makes sense and I see how it can be seen as disrespectful. Sorry!

Only fan fiction I am interested in is Ange x Amakusa and maybe Ange x Okonogi.
I don’t want any more theories. So boring.

>>41025003
Me too. I just want to fap to the witches, maybe project myself into them sometimes, too.
I like doing that since it makes me feel as powerful and gay as them.

>>41025003
That sounds fun. I like theories but I like cute and/or lewd girls and fun more. Share your favorite Enjekusa and Enjenogi moments.

that conversation sure dried up all of a sudden

>>41025212
As with all threads

>>41025003
Ange x Okonogi

>>41025212
Certain people get really butthurt whenever you remind them that Umineko has an official answer.

>>41025336
Its manga does.

>>41025379
Butthurt!

>>41025397
Why would the manga be butthurt?

>>41025379
See what I mean?

>>41025407
Not really.

>>41025428

Water Rika

>>41025437
What?

>>41025402
The manga isn’t.
But a poster who has to explicitly try to restrict the answer given in the manga is.
Super butthurt!

>>41025450

the only fiction I care

>>41025473
Restrict what? The manga is canon to the manga.
>>41025480
Rika.

Okonogi x Eva
Probably she went straight to him after Hideyoshi died. This is how he became the head of the Ushiromiya group.

Being extremely hateable is part of Rika's charm. You want to slap her for her arrogance and sloth and hug her for being cute at the same time.

>>41025489
Pathetic troll. Unworthy of further responses. Probably Italian. The manga is the answer to the whole of Umineko as confirmed by Ryukishi. Cry for me.

>>41025517
You seem to be having the emotional response here, though.

>>41025500
>hateable
>rika
It's like your headcanon?

>>41025500
>shitsugoufag
Opinion thrown into depths of ocean.

>>41025564
into the depths*

>>41025523
Still doing this? Aren’t you tired? All your friends left.

>>41025574
Doing what, talking?
Take your meds.

>>41025379
>muh ancient troll technique.

>>41025538
>>41025564
i told you to stop replying to me schizo

>>41025591
What are you talking about?

>>41025570
shut up italian
>>41025594
What are you talking about retarded psycho? you have no idea why you even hate rika you fucking obsessed. shitokofags are pure cancer so sad.

>>41025625
>italian

>>41025648
yeah ytalyan

Rena thinks trolling about Satoko and Rika is pointless now that Sotsugou had been finished for some time.
Rena thinks official manga trolling is even more tired. Ryukishi made things clear. Move on.
Rena has a date with her girlfriend tonight so wasn’t be able to reply any more.

>>41025667
I am not italian

>>41025689
you're now

>>41025711
Nice!

>>41025668
>Rena thinks trolling about Satoko and Rika is pointless now that Sotsugou had been finished for some time.
The whole Rika vs Satoko thing that Gou/Sotsu tried to sell was stupid anyway. You can't compare being a bad friend at high school with becoming a multiversal assassin. In the end though, it just hurt Rika's character since her "sin" seems much more realistic than Satoko's.

It's also why we got a finale focusing entirely on the high school stuff, since it's the only way they could have Rika and Satoko in an "equal" argument of sorts. But like the reactions to the final showed, people couldn't just forget most of the show, especially when Passione themselves loved highlighting the violence and suffering in all previous arcs

It's ok, Sotsu and Gou aren't even VNs.

>>41025843
They destroyed the Higurashi VNs for me forever.

Wataakashi will start for real this week in the manga. Really curious to see how it will be handled, especially with the scene implying Satoko is going to manipulate Shion too.

>>41025885
Never understood this mindset of "ruined childhood".

>>41025928

>>41025955
Well, in that case, it's certainly someone who can't look at the original VN, without thinking about Gou/Sotsu/Meguri as its future/continuation rather than looking at them as separate stories.

Just go with Kokoroiyashi as your epilogue or something since that's official from R07 but completely incompatible with Gou/Sotsu.

>>41025955
I don’t know what that means.
But Sotsugou has ruined the original characters and ending for me. It’s the official way things go so I cant do what >>41025974 suggests and make my own version instead.

>>41022027
>Kill Beatrice
based

>>41023287
instead we get hyper-realistic jiggle physics in the anime, which ryukishi supposedly oversaw so it didn't break the mystery like higurashi did.

>>41024639
>He was disappointed that people didn’t like the truth.
well maybe he shoulda tried writing a better truth then

>>41026044
I'm not talking about making your own version. Kokoroiyashi was an official epilogue manga with plot by R07. But it's clearly a completely different timeline from Gou/Sotsu (with Hanyuu never disappearing even by 84).

new leaked Meguri ending

>>41025737
The crazy part is Rika never neglected Satoko at high school but was more inviting towards her and she tried to help her with her studies or even get Satoko some new friends.
What actually happened instead: we learned from Sotsugou about new-Satoko, she didn't even enjoyed Rika's path, stlucia path, yet they both cling one to another and still cant part their ways. She refused Rika's offers and reaching out hands. Rika did what she could, being a good friend but it wasn't enough. She needed to become satoko's babysitter or whatever i am trying to convey, to keep her at bay, but it's too harsh for Rika since she's too kind now; she stopped thinking of Satoko as her own pet. She had reappraisal, pre sotsugou, but writers never mentioned that, it was Rika's most important character progression achievement, and they didn't even bother with that.
Meguri tried to bring something else to the table, now Rika doesn't even have to go to stlucia. She still dies with Satoko. They are trying to make it look like as if it's sh!toko's sin now, since we get to see they don't even have to attend stlucia anymore. In the end, people just love the wacky psycho sh!tok0 and her fans are lowIQ and the whole writing is absurd. Both meguri and satsugou are crap but different crap from the same source.
Ryu just make a fucking VN sutsugou or make your beloved ciconia phase 2 already
COME ON RYU YOU CAN DO THIS!
>>41025885
Literally ignore it as i do.

I appreciate an official solution, but it's hard to imagine something more boring than limiting all thought, discussion, and interpretation to that. It makes fiction tired and disposable with little value in discussion after it's done. But I can understand those who prefer the safety of repetition and familiarity.

>>41026216
Rikaschizo, none of us asked.

>>41026261
Nice buzzword oh wait you cant debunk me since i am all truth
>rikaschizo
buzz buzz following with buzz buzz

>>41026216
>people still don't get gou
amazing

>>41026265
>look mum i learned to bait!
amazing

Why would they even recommend me this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cuDN2Sj2RU

>>41026261
Throw more buzzwords for good measures. Not an argument. Is that the best satokofans can do? rekt. wrekt. owned. demoted. Take a chill pill

>>41026216
>The crazy part is Rika never neglected Satoko at high school but was more inviting towards her and she tried to help her with her studies or even get Satoko some new friends.
Both of those things get one scene though. Yeah, it's said Rika tried various times, but without actually showing it people have no emotional connection to it. And then you have the prison scene where they just show Rika glancing oddly at Satoko's chair and that's it. They just portrayed her there really badly, but in a way that seemed purposeful to fuel the wole Satoko vs Rika stuff.

>They are trying to make it look like as if it's sh!toko's sin now
In Meguri, that's just Satoko blaming herself for things no one else would, following how her character was portrayed in the original series. And then Eua feeds into it, by telling her the different futures depend on her choices. Leading to her eventually breaking due to that and just deciding to make the past her playground if she couldn't get to a good future.

>>41025885
Why? They have nothing to do with the vns besides some scenes here and there, plus they don't even consider Rika stopping the bullet as canon

>>41024808
Ryukishi himself loves fanfic of his stories and sees his characters as pieces of a gameboard that anyone can do whatever they want with, hence why he's made literal fanfiction official. The man who made the very canon you speak of doesn't value it as much as you.

>>41026372
Absolutely bizarre how that didn't appear in the anime given it was a piovtal moment

>>41026399
Only the manga portrayed it, anyway.
It was never a thing in either of the anime.
...Which means that Gou/Sotsu are only canon to the DEEN anime. Lol.

>>41026410
it was in the vn

>>41026411
Yes, the vn is the og source.

even though I agree with almost every criticism of it and see it as heavily flawed, I still love most of Umineko.
I don't think I'll ever experience anything like it again.

>>41026436
Umineko being pants-on-head retarded only makes me love it even more. It's a very unique work that is very fun to read.

>>41026399
>Absolutely bizarre how that didn't appear in the anime given it was a piovtal moment
Naoki Hayashi most likely didn't read the entire VN. At the very least, the director Kawaguchi, as said in an interview, only read Watanagashi since he was writing Watadamashi's script (That's why the Shion stabbing Keiichi scene briefly shown in flashbacks in Gou/Sotsu follows the VN, not the Deen anime, with Keiichi carrying the doll when he gets stabbed).

Naoki Hayashi did seem to read some of the VN, since you have stuff like Tatarigoroshi's epilogue referenced, but I doubt he actually read the entire VN. He certainly didn't read Meakashi at least (Meakashi scenes remade in Wataakashi had original dialogue, rather than being direct copies of the original like the rehash scenes were everywhere else). Also, his remake arcs in general just rehashed the same structure from the Deen anime, rather than following the VN more like Watadamashi did. Heck, Kameda being portrayed as a young kid in Gou/Sotsu also shows he was ignoring or skipping even Question arc stuff.

>>41026319
>And then you have the prison scene where they just show Rika glancing oddly at Satoko's chair and that's it.
Yeah it was OOC as heck and newcomers have no idea that Rika is not kind of a person. She's more than that. At least in Meguri she went inside Satoko's cell and studied with her alone but even with that it wasn't enough for Satoko and the demon got woken anyway. Really it was Eua's or some invisible force's fault.
You're right about Meguri, i also think Eua influenced Satoko's horrible behavior but i think it's more complicated than that. Or just plain garbage like sotsugou. We will see.

>>41026465
They just read some summaries on the wiki. It's probably the most relaistic answer.

>>41026486
>the creators of the anime were tertiaries

I like how Satoko is always witch mode in the Sea of Fragments in Meguri.

>>41023011
You're a reddit expert I see. Because you're a reddit user I guess?

>>41024639
>no escape from GW

>>41026382
Not true.
He still decided what happens and can ruin it any moment like Sotsugou
Some shit you write is not going to be accepted by anyone. Take your pony tier naruto writeup somewhere else.

>>41027334
I am the Reddit super detective!

>>41024639
To bad that this autor is gonna to be another one who doesn´t know that give all the decisions to making his stories to his fans 100% is a bad fucking idea...

>>41024912
I don't understand this people, making theories is part of the fun of Umineko.

>>41027468
>ah nii nii I want to make up stories pls save me from truth

>>41027468
Guess what was the weakest part of WTC, anon.

>>41026265
I don't get how Gou can be so bad.

>>41027487
>i don´t wanna make lore, I make up that this is some short of mistery, so this idiots can leave me the fuck alone

>>41027494
Gou was sort of ok. Sotsu is the shit one.

>>41026265
>people like that shitty attempt of yuri
fucking amazing

>>41027498
What did he mean by THIS?

>>41027499
Change ok to meh and I buy that one.

>>41027512
I liked some of its direction.

>>41027498
>mistery
Italian detected.

>>41027508
I don't know anon, you will tell me :3

why is the drooling chibi erika furudo so elusive

Rika can catch bullets

>>41027515
>flying Rika with glowing energy aura
>flying Satoko with glowing energy aura
That one episode was pain.

>>41027535
That was Sotsu.