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（≧◡≦) Grammar Video（＾ｖ＾）
（＾ｖ＾）Lesson 16（＾ｖ＾）
https://youtu.be/H_jePzcPFAQ

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>>40784420
This is why you should learn Japanese.

>>40784456
nah senpai, this is

any thoughts on https://jlsphila.org/? I know its not much to go off of
$620 for adult 101, small class size
working out of genki
going in raw 0 prior knowledge

damn, OP been on point. I wish I could give physical pleasure to op in a meaningful way. Thanks regardless, helps to sleep at night

>>40784456
to kiss a キモ叔父？

>>40784516
why are people so eager to drop money on learning at a slower pace than they could on their own?

>>40784420
holy amazing op
>>40784456
yabeeee

新たな価値観 or 新しい価値観?
Is 新たな価値観を得ずに生きている人は、本当にわからない。grammatically correct

>>40784516
if you're drop that much money, you might as well get round trip to Osaka and beg for some ヌルヌル. nah bruh. if you need a formality to learn it, it may not be good for ya. i took some classes while in college but you still need re-enforcement
>たくさん　inputto
>たくさん　outtoputto
a japanese language camp would be better in more ways than one :)

>>40784516
you can clear genki yourself in a couple weeks to a month if you are super retarded, just get it off library genesis and take a look
https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=138514189

>>40784539
>robe outlines the mating area
Sister og, let us meet in the prayer room.

>>40784558
>if you need a formality to learn it, it may not be good for ya
why??
>japanese language camp
first I'm hearing of this
but I can't exactly pause my ft jerb for 1-4 week program

>>40784571
but will I be able to speak it fluently ?

>>40784516
took a look at the site, its a 4 year course that will get you nowhere, genji 1 is 145 kanji and the book is entirely in english, you can get it >>40784571
that is not enough to read even childrens stories, let alone play games or chat with anyone. if you want to do japanese, see if theres a language exchange/club (there should be), and spend those 600 dollars banging exchange coeds and learning nip from immersion
as for the book, ive done it as has a lot of people here, if you just want to spend some time playing around and culturally enriching yourself, its fine
it is however better to do it as your own pace which should be 10 times faster than the schools unless you don't really want to do the japanese thing.

>>40784588
I think in general we (at least in the US) are too placed into a mold into being told how to do something instead of just doing it. I was like that for a while thus I didn't get back into studying jp. the guides are tools (no matter what you use) but they're not a teacher in front dictating anything. a rigid structure or formality of an instructor can only do so much even in other studies; maybe with the hard sciences as an exception. But even then you need to just go balls deep otherwise you're in alaska listening to white noise for 17hrs a day.
The camp thing was just an idea that popped into my head, idk if they exist for jp lang in the US. plus i didn't know if you were a student or not. i said that because I wish I attended a jp lang camp in HS or college. more immersive than seeing...ah nevermind

knaifu waifu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-8dnpiEePk

>>40784599
no you cant speak anything fluently in a term of genki one, the absolute minimum recorded by science is 64 weeks by dli, and by fluency they mean "be able to somewhat understand the locals (not read)", and is 5 days a week 10 hours a day

>>40784601
>>40784606
gotcha
thanks for the all the input
its appreciated

>>40784601
>spend those 600 dollars banging exchange coeds
why am I reimbursing them for their flight ticket? I only want the suckey sucky, not the lucky lucky. besides, they're coeds trying to learn, they're not hostess

>>40784609
dli is 6 hours a day and number of weeks depends on language

>finished core 10k
Which decks does one use to reach 20,000 words

>>40784634
50k

20k is beginner level

>>40784609
debunked, 5 months if you take the idol pill
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_oalr6uXQ
>>40784615
take the idol pill
>>40784631
its the army and it says 3 hours of homework a day + the hours of instruction so i think 10 is fair, regardless its in the ballpark
japanese is 64 weeks

>>40784657
>>40784631
>five days a week, seven hours per day, with two to three hours of homework each night. Courses last from 36 to 64 weeks, depending on the difficulty of the language.
https://www.dliflc.edu/about/

Wow, Japanese people are so civilized.
https://twitter.com/kusatta_www/status/1555704896946548738

>>40784643
Asking for my little sister

>>40784678
to be fair he was being annoying

>>40784657
>>40784667
fuck off

>>40784667
so it seems like with a ft job, all the tech stuff I have to learn atm, being in the us
my chances of speaking are nil
having to move to japan for dli is not within my budget/time/plan
r.i.p

>>40784727
dli is in the us, not japan, its just the fastest language school in the world (some would say the best), that said of kirara can do 5 months you can do 5 months >>40784657
>>40784723
welp, if you actually went there ill yield, how long was it and what was your level coming out? what do they do exactly?

also, acquired 讌
KANKEN 1

>>40784742
kanken 0

>>40784527
You are supposed to be the キモ叔父 anon...

retard doesnt know pitipiti and cant even transcribe peppa pig but is ""acquiring"" kanken 1 shit lmao eternal dunning kruger

>>40784742
if you do the bare minimum to not get rolled back, you'll be around n2 upon graduation. the sky's the limit. every year has its fair share of jazzy's. generally only a small handful of officers get to learn japanese.

>>40784759
yoshi!
攪欒
another two cool ones

Is bleach worth reading. It's long as fuck.

>>40784781
really don't like the "you don't get to choose your language" part
what did you learn?

hello anons, I made myself a quick cheatsheet for verbs and their forms
it's not great, but it's easy to use for myself and I'm sharing it with you as well!

>>40784804
chinese i guess, but i didn't learn anything. i just played wow after class.

>>40784827
nice saved
>>40784833
kek based

no such thing as an ugly woman. just old or fat

>>40784827
あ！生きてるの？！

>>40784877
先生がいないと悲しい

>>40784657
How am I supposed to learn her method of learning Japanese in 5 months if it's all in Japanese and I can't understand a fucking word of what she's saying?

>>40784949
her method is to live stream every day and pretend to understand simp chat

>>40784949
fake it till you make it

>>40784955
Will this work for a man?

>>40784983
no

>>40784420
Nice butt.

>>40784949
https://streamable.com/l0k9q4 short version
>>40784983
yes

>>40784992
what about a "man" with tits and a foot fetish?

>>40784456
s-sauce?

>>40785029
i concede that a high tier trap could use her method

>>40785043
https://jp.spankbang.com/5qayn/video/porn
there you go enjoy

yooo ff koyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu6Gm9-YO5Q

now this is compelling media.

(censored so i don't offend)

>>40785095
well i know what im reading tonight

i feel kinda bad for the bros who can only have fun with erotic content

>>40784607
はがねもいいけど

ジルコニアセラミックスのはものいよね

すごいたかいけど

しろくてよくきれるというのは

みりょくがあるとおもう

dont feel bad for ngmis

no i want to be IN you

don't feel

but i like feeling

this foot up your ass?

i have advanced to the level that i can play infant games like pokemon and animal crossing and mine the vocab and watch little kid anime and somewhat understand what is being said. i can painstakingly read the news and mine it for vocab too. even messageboard posts kind of make sense. i have crawled my way out of the anki mines and i can see the sun but i am still blinded by its light.

>>40785207
soon enough you'll be throwing galaxies like shuriken

>>40785225
kanken super saiyan

>>40785207
You need to go back into the mines. You left too early.

>>40785207
reread this in the voice of derek zoolander

>>40785074
this game is so fucking epic, junon vs weapon always gives me shills
id say i cant wait for the remake version but im doubting itll be there somehow (but i want to be wrong)

My goal is to be able to play FF7R part 2 in the original Japanese with minimal look ups when it comes out in a year and a half.

>>40785283
holy based
same!
unironically though

thought that part 2 came out recently but the renewed hype has been from the pc release huh?

>>40785322
there is a part 1.5 dlc i guess with some new content that came with the pc one, the 2 one is still a while away

あのんの

ナイフ

ステンレスの？

鋼の？

セラミックスの？


きょうのにほんご

>の

のをつけると何で作られているか

誰のものであるか聞くことができます

just saw that the bioshock games have a japanese language option
wonder if it's any good

>>40785354
つきあって

>>40785372
only play native games

>>40785498
yeah but I also wanna replay bioshock :(

>>40784657
debunked. 0 vsisters know japanese after years of hololive being mainstream

>>40785372
everything is better in jp, the only exception is MGR
https://youtu.be/IMpuUUV2HeE
shame that most japanese people don't like to talk about politics...

>>40785488
sauceeeee

>trying to watch my first anime with JP subs
>starts out okay, some dude talking at a reasonable pace and the interactive subs work properly
>very easy to look up words and with routine pauses and re-listens I'm able to understand the gist of what's being said
>this lasts for like 30 seconds
>plot progresses forward
>some thugs show up and start talking with some dumb slangy/tough-guy accent
>it kind of breaks the subs and makes it harder to understand
>still kind of get the gist I guess but its pretty confusing and I don't even know if I'm getting it right or if the subs were wrong because it sounded wrong or something
>next some bitch shows up and starts talking at 10x the speed of light
>the interactive subs have stopped even pretending to keep up, it only highlights the front part of words or the conjugative part separately and randomly adds particles onto words
>have to find a separate text form of the subs and manually copy/paste parts, which at least lets me look up and learn but slows the process tenfold
>she uses all these weird ass sentence joiner particles that weren't covered in my grammar guide that I assume to be like super proper highborn speak or some shit based on the context
>started this first episode about 2 hours ago
>9 minutes into a 25 min episode
I know the first is supposed to be the hardest but fuck.
Idk whether I just "lucked out" with one that coincidentally fucks first timers in the ass extra hard or if this would be my experience with even an 'easier' anime. Thoughts?
I don't want to give up since this anime is one I sought out because it interested me personally, but its possible some are just way more aggressive to start with then other than maybe it'd be better I start with something a bit easier for the first one and come back to this in a month or so? Any good way to tell?

Anime for reference is Re:Zero

Immersion material.
どうぞ

>>40785789
don't watch with subs?
anyway mine was doremi and it was a ton of fun, its about three cute and funny witches that help people, big recommend

ahhhh miko is doing ffx!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAx8xuH0pCw

WEEABOS

>>40785837
just realized i never finished ffx2
guess i shall do so... IN JAPANESE

>>40785789
>>trying to watch my first anime with JP subs
>Anime for reference is Re:Zero
lol

>>40785803
It was my understanding that
>learn hiragana/katakana
>then learn basic grammar
>then learn some introductory vocab
>then watch anime with japanese subs (this is where I am)
>then start reading manga
>then progress into LN/VN/etc

>>40785885
berate my choices fine but please tell me why or what the issue is so I can adjust my learning., even if its just I have shit taste or w/e

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5iKhK6pHnQ

>>40785923
well its not like theres hard and fast rules, just do whatever you want, eventually you figure out what works for you and what doesn't
for me, fishing for subs didn't work so i didn't, w/e, i don't pause things im watching and neither do i use hover dictionaries or anything like that so they were rather useless for me
by the way, it is no exaggeration to say that everyone here is mentally ill, that guy might just have been trolling you, haven't watched re zero so i have no idea
generally people start with kids shows

>>40785923
start with a slice of life show not an isekai ln adaptation
not joking to say that you picked one of the hardest animes to start with you could

>>40786006
>one of the hardest animes
lmao

>>40785923
>then learn some introductory vocab
>then watch anime with japanese subs (this is where I am)
The problem is the gap between these two. You simply don't have enough vocab to do something like watching anime or japanese tv shows. Finish a 6k word anki deck first and try again.

at least he didn't start with logh
宸襟を騒がせ奉り恐縮でございます

>>40786023
>just cardtard bro lmao
When will the flashcard meme die?

>>40786068
When the human brain evolves to memorize stuff without repetition.

>>40786061
if he said that id be convinced it was a troll post

>>40786061
まつたくしごくかしこきやふゑつさぶらひ候

>>40786111
stfu ciaran

acquired ゑ(R)

crazy that ciaran still hangs out in a noob thread, makes you think

>>40785962
I actually don't mind the sub method, it seemed pretty effective for a bit there before it became unhinged.
But I probably need to get a real setup with a text hooker instead of relying on this streaming website's in-built interactive subs. My knowledge is still very primative but I know enough to tell that its not working properly.
Just to give an example; it implied that 追わない was two separate words 追わ and ない when even with my shit knowledge it was pretty clearly the negative form of a verb that I had to work backwards through and then look up. Probably at least 20 examples like that in the very brief stint, just adds legwork and guesswork.

>>40786006
I legit didn't even know what it was about but thanks for letting me know. A gacha game I play had a collab with this anime and the waifus were cute af so it was on my radar

>>40786023
You're probably right that there's a gap in there.
The thing is I want to start immersing now though, not 300 (more) days from now. I already got these N5 and N4 decks and if I keep putting off immersion with "just one more anki deck..." I'm worried I'll never get to the actual immersion stage.
The whole motivation for this is to learn the language by watching anime and having fun right? its fucked up that I'm trying to learn japanese through/with anime and after 2 months of work I've watched 9 minutes of anime (that I wasn't even ready for).

>>40786167
that ones a troll, you don't need to do 6k anki cards to watch anything
just mine what interests you as you go

>>40786179
you're a troll for suggesting anyone who's advice you disagree with is a troll. 自殺しろ

>>40786167
ill tell u what u need to know
you're gonna get btfo no matter what anime you watch right now, but you could probably get by ok with a sol cute girls anime
if you wanna git gud highly consider reading a visual novel instead (an easy one)
and you don't need 6k words, 2k is plenty, also read tae kims guide or at least skim it

>>40786191
きくんのしかくとは?

>>40786191
this one is a good post and correct
anyway just do what you want, as anon says no matter what you watch, itll suck
really liked doremi tho

>>40786179
>>40786207
now write this in japanese in <10 min lets see who the real troll is

>>40785923
>>then watch anime with japanese subs (this is where I am)
>>then start reading manga
>>then progress into LN/VN/etc
there is no real order to these just try a bunch of shit and stick to whatever is the most enjoyable until it becomes not enjoyable then try something else
i enjoyed manga and vns more than anime at the beginning
theres a lot of options of varying difficulty regardless of the medium
being interested will help you put up with a lot more difficulty than otherwise but sometimes you just gotta set something aside and try something easier
if you dont want to get back into it in the morning then you should try something else and if you do then go for it

>>40786167
>The thing is I want to start immersing now
gmi

>>40786017
im saying hes got a billion moe moe kissas he should be watching before rezero

>>40785923
better
>>learn hiragana/katakana
>>then learn basic grammar
>>then learn some introductory vocab
>then progress into LN/VN/etc

>>40785789
>>trying to watch my first anime with JP subs
>Anime for reference is Re:Zero
wat

>>40786301
You can just skip to immersion and look up grammar and vocab while reading, that’s how jazzy reached n1 in a few months

kiwawa got fluent in 5 months, video is up there
its true too, i saw her videos way way back, she used to be a /b/ lolcow

hard to believe nyanners is a millionaire now
wagmi bros

>>40786353
this
anki drones and whitenoisers btfo. jazzy explains the real secret to getting good fast
https://streamable.com/31q0yk
>tldw
Yomichan

>>40786391
>>40786353
everyone does that but they dont reach "n1" in a few months

>>40786385
>millionaire
wat? bucks?
>search vwhore nya
>million subscribers
meh

>>40786413
vshojo just got 15 million venture capital anon

>>40786408
>everyone does that
https://streamable.com/da7nb8
>""years of effort""
yea, "everyone does that" aka immerse for 2-3 hrs everyday...
if you cant immerse for 7-8 hrs, just give up.

>>40786422

>>40786422
simps can't be save
lol
now i know why there's so much jp gravures, why work? when you can get money from losers simps lol

>>40786443
many neets immerse for longer and they dont reach n1
dno what advice you're giving "use yomichan" lol okay, every guide mentions that in the first step

>>40786469
>many neets immerse for longer and they dont reach n1
sure...

>>40786475
they sure do. anyways what's the advice here, just immerse more? he didnt do anything different

>>40786487
Considering jazzy is a physics major, he’s already higher IQ than most NEETs so that also has to be taken into account

>>40786524
what is the advice though? if hes special then why give his example to shill a method. i still dont understand what the advice is, read and use yomichan? because it just sounds like a troll brag

>>40786544
>How I got 180/180 on N1 in ~8.5 Months!
https://rentry.org/9pe4o

>>40786487
let me rephrase.
READ MORE, READ MORE YOU FUCK
NOT ANIME OR SHIT, JUST READ FOR 8 HR EVERYDAY.

>>40786557
ive already read it. how is this different from what everyone does? every guide explains how to install yomichan and get input

>>40786565
maybe it worked because of his iq and not because he read instead of listening. qm says you should listen and watch anime with japanese subtitles

>>40786584
>MAH IQ
NICE EXCUSE DEKINAI-KUN

>>40786602
you said it though >>40786524
so he is not high iq? then >>40786487
if he is high iq then >>40786584

O-kyon ftw

This is why you should learn Japanese.
https://streamable.com/ecipj2

>>40786740
https://vocaroo.com/9G3EugAy2Iw

If I just look up kanji words every time I don't recognize them
How do I actually learn to recognize them without looking them up

anki everyday until you die

>>40787031
vocab cards

What is the difference between に and を? I read that に is an indirect object marker but there are times when I see sentences that have only one object and can easily switched with を but に is used instead.

私を教えて
私に教えて

Or does it not matter at all and I should just memorize what verbs are often combined with に?

what's the difference between は and が?

btw don't bother answering if you dont know japanese

>>40787123
https://youtu.be/uqlQYrE2oFM
https://youtu.be/dwcTI9qvO-U

>>40787123
direct and indirect objects are more clear in this sentence
私に日本語を教えて
just read more

>>40787190
you just replied to bait

>>40787123
>there are times when I see sentences that have only one object and can easily switched with を but に is used instead
not in the one you sent at least

>>40787204
big loss

yup i won you lost

imagine answering questions when ydkj well enough to explain it

its the weekend anyone want to stream a vinnie?

how do i stream a vn

i cant explain english grammar why would i be able to explain japanese grammar

so u dont know english either? big lol

>>40787212
But why?

>軒町堂
boys, how would you read this if you saw it in a game? けんちょうどう？

>>40787296
tell me what a subjunctive is faggot

i would even try to read it

>>40787345
dangerously based

>>40787323
>けんちょうどう
yes

>>40787345
*wouldn't? if so lol

>ジジモン

>>40787415
i also played this game two weeks ago

>>40787426
woah um.... based!!
あれはラスボス？

>>40787463
nope

>>40787426
booba!

>>40784420

Follow the DJT guide before asking how to learn Japanese tatsumoto.neocities.org

Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.
Read more. and listen!
IGNORE Animecards and Moeway spam.
IGNORE Animecards and Moeway spam.

Next time please include the new guide to the OP tatsumoto.neocities.org

>>40786443
Who is this guy?

>>40787465
can u catch her?

I interacted with a Japanese person on Twitter

>>40784420
https://find.4chan.org/?q=learnjapanese.moe
https://find.4chan.org/?q=animecards.site

send these to https://www.4channel.org/feedback

include his patreon as well

>>40787652
bruh
https://stallman.org/twitter.html

pay no attention to cure dolly spam >>40787180 >>40784427, he's a patreon beggar. want to learn japanese? read the tatsumoto guide for god's sake.

>>40784427
dolly's problem is not the voice, it's the shitty content. even n6 shitters from reddit can teach japanese better. Tatsumoto says that All About Particles is all you need.

>>40787652
fail

>押せばドアが開きます。
Does this literally translate to:
>If you push, door opens.
or
>If pushed door it opens.

>>40787463
I just learned this term yesterday from Kirby Star Allies.

>>40787723
trick question, it's impossible to translate literally

>>40787180
Just don't pay attention to anything cure dolly says. Her teachings make Japanese look even more confusing. Want to learn japanese? Then read the Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese for god's sake. Tatsumoto recommends reading All About Particles, maybe you need that.

>>40787748
My question was does 押せば modify ドア or is it a separate clause?

>>40787767
I heard tatsumoto also recommends sucking your own dick and becoming a tranny. No thanks

>>40787779
押せば, y happens

>>40787723
>If you push, door opens.
>>40787748
lmfao learn passive

>>40787802
This is conditional though?

>>40787802
lmfao learn japanese

押しに弱いドア

>>40787723
押せばには暗に

押さなければがふくまれるよ

>>40787816
>if pushed
would translate to 押されたら idiot

>>40787818
door-chan.. Everyone stop pushing door-chan around..

押したのならばそのドアも開くとの噂あり

>>40787839
no idea what ur going on about, so it seems my post flew over your head

>>40787789
analcream recommends that

>>40784634
Try Ankidrone Starter Pack.

>>40784420
>Ignore Tatsumoto
Tatsumoto is unironically the best Japanese language guide out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_UNZ13_6E

>>40787868
that's why i said learn passive retard
and read more

ニューミュージック
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ih0UtYous

imagine paying some バカ外人 to learn 日本語.
just consume more native japanese content, idiots.

>>40787885
swing and miss
try again lol

notice they never mention outputting

>>40787896
how often does 押せば mean if passively pushed instead of "if subject pushes" lmao clueless retard

>>40787929
nta but you are both retarded quite unironically

>>40787929
oops, three strikes, you're out

>>40787299
Many people come to DJT and complain about not making it, but have they ever tried TSCs? Yes, they have not, and that's why they're miserable.

>>40787945
oops you're a dumb retard
keep reading genki shitter

>>40785797
typo?

消滅
削減
I keep fucking confusing theeeeeeeeeeeem
I constantly get them mixed up wtf...

is 押されれば grammatical

I've been doing Anki vocab for a month. I look up the stroke order and write each character several times when i see it (whether I guessed it right or not). I'm frustrated by how bad I am at remembering this stuff, there must be something I'm doing wrong. Or is this just how it's supposed to be? I feel like a retard when I hit "hard" the 10th time a card comes around

I dunno why I came here to ask, I know the answer is going to be "it's supposed to suck, keep grinding"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czkfKyXbKvg

>>40788002
Why do you care about stroke order?
Why do you hit hard instead of again?

>>40786443
why are you retards like this
its obvious you will still make it if you put in half the time it will just take longer. stop thinking like a retard

なぜねこはいつも

はだし

なのですか

love seeing people own each other on djt

>>40788029
>Why do you care about stroke order?
The rules are pretty consistent, it just makes writing it out easier. That's not what I'm having trouble with
>Why do you hit hard instead of again?
What difference does it make if it's 1 minute later vs 3 minutes later

>>40784532
I am new, how do I choose the guide? there is anime cards and Mr. Moe guide but the tatsumoto looks clean and perfect? I have chose the Tatsumoto and won, thank you for the helping we will all be making it, inshallah

>n5 tango
>gives me card with 2 long sentences containing 3-4 new words
>then introduces those words individually AFTER the card where you need to remember them all to pass
This deck is formatted horribly but I'm more than 50% through so I'm not stopping now. I'm definitely gonna switch to something else for n4

>>40788103
Writing it out is pretty pointless tho.
If you're having difficulty with basic vocabulary, read easier stuff.
What deck are you doing, tango? core 2.3k?
what difficulties are you having.
What have you studied so far, in terms of grammar/manga or whatever?

>>40787986
yes

>>40788022
三毛猫 acquired, easy mnemonic with Rushia as well

>>40786298
>>40787895
you really just need to read a grammar guide, learn to mine, do ankidrone starter pack, and watch anime (most important part)

>>40788139
>Writing it out is pretty pointless tho.
Works better than just staring at a character

>>40784420
>>40787510
>>40787661
Facts about moeway/animecards and his guide:

>His “guide is actually just a money grab
>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creator of the official djt guide Tatsumoto

Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by Tatsumoto if you want to make it!

https://youtu.be/uVKyqfXncRY

>>40788055
why cat person always

superiour

dont ! be is?

God, these threads are so shit, am I supposed to start using r/learn japanese
or worse yet
fucking discord?
aaaaaaaah

>>40787981
make a card with both on em
back:
しょうめつ

さくげん

>>40788204
Anon I...
Ofc I already have cards for both of them...
That's why I know I always get them mixed up...

>>40788212
it's because of your dyslexia

>>40788202
join the djt matrix space

We are a nice and easygoing community and have recently hit 4000+ members in our Matrix space.
If you would like to join, the invite link is below and anyone from this thread can join. For more information read the space's description.

Invite link: https://matrix.to/#/#djthub:nerdsin.space

Make sure to read the rules, be nice, and enjoy your time in the space.

>>40788212
no hes saying to make a single card with both of them

uza

Why is 劇団 a common word? What the fuck do I really need to learn troupe?

>>40784420
>>40787510
>>40787789
>>40788229
>>40788193
Tatsumoto's advice:
>just use the fucking language!
>use whatever learning method, just keep using the language doing things you like!
>these anki decks are optional

Animetards and themoeway's advice:
>use my anki deck
>watch dolly's videos because I say so
>subscribe to my patreon for more!
>join my Cringecord

>>40788264
didnt read

>>40788239
why would you do that
youre obviously not gonna mix them up when you see them side by side

>>40788259
It's such an easy word to learn...
the reading is standard, and both kanji are very frequent, and the meaning is obvious from the kanji, so if anything look at it as a nice way to quickly learn both readings and both meanings.

>>40788269
>>40788275
>>40784420
Important information for beginners.

>>40787981
消滅 - water radical on the left
Extinction by huge waves
削減 - sword radical on the right
Cutting away

How can you mistake them after knowing this? Or can you not recognize the cut and water radicals?

you dont learn words consciously though

Any way to change the font in an entire anki deck?

Did all /jp/ mods 消滅?
Did they move to /vt/

>>40788283
If I stare at them carefully and go kanji by kanji I can recognize them.
But 99% of the times, I just see word, brain links word to meaning like recognizing a face, and I flip the card because I think I know what the word is, only to realize I confused it with a different one.

>>40788296
消滅する

>>40788298
be more careful anon, when you recognize it, look for the water/sword radical and reaffirm you know which one it is

>>40788285
Browse > Cards...
I forgot exactly how to change the font but this is where you do it

>>40788310
Yeah I'll try.
Ironically hard words are "easier" in this sense, because my brain knows I don't know what the meaning is, so I don't instantly flip the card with confidence, but these 2 they look so easy/familiar that I just always think I know it sigh

>>40787954
Literally no one ever didn't make it because they didn't do enough cardtarding

>>40788285
You can change the styling of the cards to use a different font, I did that to use the JP font instead of CN one.

花火大会はじまった

でも武漢肺炎で

密にならないでねが出てる

>>40788352
観念しろって

what's the point of mastering pitch accent when japanese people still see you as a hairy white guy?

>>40788459
Phone sex

>>40788474
you actually dont have to say much when they get started

>>40788283
>>40788282
>>40784420
>>40788264
>>40787879
>>40788474

Analcream hijacked the DJT thread for a personal spam campaign and hopes to manipulate other DJT posters into supporting his war on Tatsumoto.


To resist this manipulation, create a separate thread and abandon this one.

>>40788212
>>40788269
the point is training your brain to recognize them as distinct and the best way to do that is side by side. its the same reason minimal pairs works for listening.

>>40788459
there's little to no point
the fixation on pitch accent by hairy white guys and other foreigners who buy into their shtick, comes from the false assumption that japanese people give a fuck. they don't.
if you have good enough japanese (which only requires half decent pitch accent and of course enough exposure to the natural language through comprehensible input) and a good enough personality, any encounters with japanese people will be just the same quality as if you put in 300 extra hours into your pitch accent. there will be literally no change in how they treat you. don't waste your time unless you really want to despite knowing this fact.

>>40788550
a lot of people would be very impressed if you had perfect pitch accent though

How does adding に to 次第 make it change it's meaning almost completely?
From depending on/as soon as to gradually. What's the logical grammatical explanation for that?

>>40788630
https://youtu.be/_6IssQtvlsE?t=125

>>40788480
>>40788478
>>40787510
this animecards guy doesnt have a job or family to take care of. Only thing he does is post on 4chan and beg for money. beginners he is trying to scam you, read tatsumoto's guide to Japanese, don’t forget to join the official djt matrix space where we are all fluent!

>>40788630
you don't know what に means? lol

>>40788674
enlighten me anon

>>40788746
meant for >>40788725

>>40788572
and them being "impressed" will lead to what
btw they're already plenty impressed if your accent is half decent and you can use words like 確実 correctly in a sentence

>>40788746
*lights you on fire*

>>40788944
lol

油断するとやられる

100%確実

100%現実

Ciaran, help!! >>40788630

>>40789010
technology was a mistake

>>40789094
ye now i have to read your dumb posts

>>40789085
not queeran but literally the same as the difference between 本当 and 本当に

thats just what に does

ur issue lies in not understanding the word in the first place because ur using english shit

>>40789085
sorry bud hes busy going on business trips and making seven figures

only moe thinks the business trip joke is funny

who

just mined the おとつい reading for 一昨日

>>40789181
ngmi宣言

card shitters fill me with infinite frustration

>>40789192
just turn off ur monitor

>>40789213
moving to the output laptop in not too long

>>40789163
didn't he literally say he's a plumber and scams boomers?

>>40789226
not so fast buddy *moves you to the input 地下牢*

what did they mean by this

>>40789298
nobody proofreads that garbage

>>40789298
editorさん didn't do his job

>>40789298
waza?? what is your question

>>40789298
isekaishit gets isekaishit quality editing

>>40789321
u just exposed urself

>>40789335
careful you might own yourself hard here

>>40789346
how
are you going to claim that its correct

>>40789350
depends on what you mean by it

there's always some numbskull on djt arguing for the most retarded position possible so get ready

so how does furigana get added anyways
if most of it is done by a program then it would make sense why it's so nonsensical all the time

>>40789374
its not nonsensical

>>40789357
the furigana for 技 in that particular context

>>40789298
yeah this is gonna turn into something

>>40789391
the furigana is not just for 技

>>40789404
in that case the formatting is bad

lmao its another episode of all the lil tykes stand around in a circle around some japanese and have no fucken idea what to do with it lol

>>40789404
in this case they printed furigana for 技 only which is why it's wrong since 技 isn't read わざ here but rather is part of 技術

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxr0CQyDtBg

>>40789422
its common >>40789406 if you read more books you'd know too and not make a fool of yourself like this tard >>40789335
>>40789411

>>40789374
it probably depends on the publishers but from what i've seen i don't think it's a program most of the time because it's not rare to see a word without furigana and then two pages later they suddenly added them
it's probably the editor 適当に going through the thing and adding it were they see fit and sometimes, they make retarded decisions

>>40789437
ive never seen formatting like that and ive read a fair amount of printed novels
the furigana would be in the middle of the whole word

>>40789404
かがくわざ ?
lol

>>40789459
i've seen these kind of formatting errors

>>40789467
in shitty lns?
if so who fucking cares

>>40789463
発達したわざは

>>40789437
what is even your point you haven't said anything of substance
are you saying the furigana should apply to more than 技 here? that's a ridiculous point lol it would at least be in the middle of the word it's supposed to include
it's an obvious misprint

>>40787976
yeah

>>40789472
concession accepted
>>40789491
your brain is lacking substance
it's a formatting error the furigana is correct

>>40789507
>the furigana is correct
わざ isn't even equivalent to 科学技術 that makes no sense at all

>>40789525
sounds like a you problem

>>40789507
>concession accepted
vocaroo without a script or gay

never read a book never fuckin will

>>40789507
if its supposed to be read as わざ why is this quote nowhere else to be found with this reading specified?

click click click

>>40789565
that's also common

big loss for jamal thankfully he dropped his trip or this would have been embarassing

the only post i made was this 1 >>40789411

i never give ppl a direct answer in this situations

well except this time

>>40789549
https://vocaroo.com/17bclYvtlM24

toilet pauper

>>40789609
uh buddy youre forgetting this one >>40789335

wrongaroo buckaroo

good morning, it's time for my reps.
>>40789298
the japanese can't learn japanese.

>>40789609
did you just say わざつ lol
術's on reading is じゅつ

>>40789591
how did u know he was here

>>40789631
i had to use the same amount of syllables 4 reasons

>>40789647
lmao cope you didnt know to read an n5 kanji
sasuga jamal

>>40789660
ok u vocaroo it reading it properly with waza before it or ur gay and dont know japanese

それはわざと

>>40789672
sure just clear the n1 quiz ill read it on voice chat for you

>>40789690
ur concession has been accepted have a nice day またチャレンジしてね

>>40789646
you can't smell the 悪臭?

>>40789690
youll read the link to the vocaroo?

>>40789697
that would be ur 上唇

>>40789695
bro you just exposed yourself on vocaroo as a noob lmao stop seething at me and work on your japanese

are there really people here who cant do the n1 quiz

jamal starting his saturday with a massive L

me i don't have a pisscord

>>40789729
bro u just conceded i dont know why ur conceding further

>>40789743
youre a sore loser

you are all gay and くだらない AND ngmi

u know what else is about to be sore *unzips*

>>40789758
but i was conceded to by u which makes me the 勝者

kachite fans be careful with this 1

I wish I knew japanese

your asshole?

in other news, mined 暮れ泥む

weird how jamal continues this cycle of embarrassing himself instantly before leaving for a bit
it's like some kind of bizarre Sisyphus-like story

jamal no 勝つ

>another episode of jamal self owning and coping
whew we're having reruns of this one already?

but what's moe's take on this?

https://streamable.com/a4w08j

wazatu? wazatu?

>>40789795
its tragic comedy

i like to imagine the people that are getting baited are actually just 二重 baiting because otherwise i have to come to terms with the fact that the average poster here is literally not worth interacting with

>>40789821
literally me

you guys get owned by jamal when he's just clowning around. imagine if he was serious

>>40789845
the tragic comedy is actually ur life lol

>>40789851
bro when you samefag like this its just tragic

only 16 episodes left yoshi

>>40789873
what do u mean i didnt reply to myself

if you're counting how many eps left til you finish an anime you're better off dropping it 2bh

the moment you vocaroo you lose

men are so weird

conversely the moment u dont vocaroo u lose

>>40789933
u would know

i was just pretending to be retarded

>>40789937
yea bc i hang around here enough to witness it

if you don't say anything you can't be wrong: the jamal formula
>>40789609

i love being right all the time
thanks for making it ez djt

>>40789298
the わざ here is ルビ for 科学技術
if a voice actor were to read this he would just say the ルビ

>>40789975
ydkj

>>40789954
well luckily were not men

were all immature boys

>>40789979
thanks, i know

>>40789975
if a voice actor were to read this he would stop and ask the kantoku-san to fix the damn script

not a single person here is representative of the average man

>>40789975
sasuga lmao

>>40789995
and thank god for that

>>40789989
or that, yeah

yea im representative of the beyond average man *unzips*

>>40790021
so this is a what a 超ｔｉｎｙチンポ looks like naruhodo naruhodo

>>40790036
monitor 状況: off

>>40790036
is this the best translation for chode in nihongo

my monitor goes beyond native resolution

>>40790056
i like the ring of 粗チン

its vinnie august

whos gonna step up to stream

vns suck

not as much as ur mum haha

still need to finish sabbat of the witch i got a little bored of it somewhere in the middle of chapter 3

>>40790142
hello child services i would like to report a case of abuse

there are thousands of people in japanese classrooms right now sitting in front of a boring teacher with a boring textbook thinking its going to make them fluent
crazy what goes on in the world

Post good JP twitter accounts to follow.

>>40790178
follow that chick who owned tkyosam in the comments

>>40787669
>>40790178

>>40790187
you can use nitter

>>40790142
Nice, she will become fluent in english real quick
>>40790167
this
>kids become fluent in english just watching mr beast
https://youtu.be/dPgQp8og81Y

>>40790186
>tkyosam
another lolcow
>>40790178
>JP twitter accounts
>jp
>post a korean with full plastic surgery
sasuga vtars

>>40786167
>>40789491
>>40786584
>>40788139
>>40788202
>>40786191
Disregard SHIT advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・tmw/The moe way. Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny.
・Anime cards (the guide by someone named QM). It recommends words context cards (WCCs), which are proven to be less effective than targeted sentence cards (TSCs).
・any rentry.org and геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners.
・Core 2.3k. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Ankidrone Starter Pack instead.
・Anacreon. Anacreon is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
・Discord servers. Discord is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Matrix.
・Refold, Migaku and other money grab schemes.
・Visual novels. Experienced learners say they're trash because of unnatural speech and useless vocabulary. Most VNs are proprietary (nonfree, malware).
・Cure Dolly. It's a half assed grammar guide/playlist that drives beginners crazy. Read All About Particles instead.

Tatsumoto is the best guide. Be sure to read his religion/story.

>>40790178
woa shes so hot whos that?

>>40790240
>shes so hot
are you blind?
you need glasses, anon...

>>40790178
look for art trends (like 逆バニー recently), then follow artists you like

>>40790178

>>40790277
shes such a treasure bros

>>40790277
she's literally me

最初からわかってたのに

>>40790324
she's not a tranny anon...