/jp/ - Otaku Culture

（≧◡≦) Grammar Video（＾ｖ＾）
（＾ｖ＾）Lesson 13（＾ｖ＾）
https://youtu.be/cvV6d-RETs8

thanks op

not sure if i want to make it anymore bros...
https://files.catbox.moe/j1d13z.mp4

アノンって童貞なんですか
大人なのに？
童貞でニートなんてかわいそうですね

great pic OP hope the jannies respect /djt/'s autonomy in creating its own OPs

>>40753129
was cure dolly right when she said japanese doesn't have conjunctions?
or was it autism

>>40753196
いや、オナホで童貞を奪った

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68d0mBcdKyM

jk bros!

>>40753266
0:50
im sold

>>40753196
learn japanese

>>40753308 こいつなんで英語しか話せないの？
ﾏｼﾞウケるw

>>40753126

Follow the DJT guide before asking how to learn Japanese tatsumoto.neocities.org

Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.
Read more. and listen!
IGNORE Animecards and Moeway spam.
IGNORE Animecards and Moeway spam.

Next time please include the new guide to the OP tatsumoto.neocities.org

pay no attention to cure dolly spam >>40753129, he's a patreon beggar. want to learn japanese? read the tatsumoto guide for god's sake.

>>40753248
She talks out of her ass

Here's some facts about tatsumoto and his guide:
>spams his shit everyday, hijacking every OP he can
>just wants you to give him money via patreon
>lies about other guides and resources
>says not to use 4chan(yet here he is)
>believes visual novels have spyware
>uses MAL
>samefags
>doesnt actually know japanese

If you're a beginner, please read the guide first.

Updated guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html
Library: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/librarymain.html

Daily reminder: Read more.

Avoid any japanese 'learning' site that links their patreon garbage. REMINDER, Itazuraneko is the only guide that doesn't beg for donations.

>>40753381
>>40753375
>itazuraneko
We here at DJT don't use itazuraneko because it's outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners. you should check out the updated and easier to follow guide for beginners that is called tatsumoto.

>>40753369
fuck off ren

I made a Matrix space some while ago since the threads are heavily jannied. We have a few thousand members currently and are always looking for new friends. This is a Matrix space (server) for this thread. Anyone is allowed to join. If you don't have a Matrix account yet, choose any server except matrix.org. Also sorry for the shill.

Invite link: https://matrix.to/#/#djthub:nerdsin.space

Be nice to others and just be a normal person.

>>40753375
>>40753126
Here's some facts about animecards and his guide:
>spams his shit everyday, hijacking every OP he can
>just wants you to give him money via patreon
>lies about other guides and resources
>uses shitcord, has a fake """djt""" server there
>uses windows
>uses MAL
>samefags
>doesn't actually know Japanese

Daily reminder: targeted sentence cards are the most effective way to combine Anki with immersion.

MINNA! SURU SURU GENKI!!!

>>40753369
Here's some facts about tatsumoto and his “guide”:
>is russian
>spams his shit everyday, hijacking every OP he can
>just wants you to give him money via patreon
>lies about other guides and resources
>uses gaytrix, has a fake """djt""" server there
>uses lincux
>uses MAL
>samefags
>doesn't actually know Japanese

Daily reminder: anime cards are the most effective way to combine Anki with immersion.

>>40753126
>>40753129
>>40753442
>>40753396
The only way to learn 日本語:

1. Filter all tripfags
2. Read the updated /jp/djt guide by Tatsumoto
3. Don't waste time/money on ゴミ like:
・tmw/The moe way. Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners.
・So called anime cards. Words cards are proven to be less effective than targeted sentence cards (TSCs).
・Garbage videos and youtube channels, shitty apps, translations, learning kanji instead of vocab, Genki, Imabi, RTK, KKLC, Wanikani, Duolingo, Bunpro, Kodansha, Tobira, whatever you're using, language schools, Italki, JLPT, Kanji Kentei tests and many other scams
・Genki, Japanese From Zero, Pimsleur, japanesepod101, Memrise, Duolingo and other blue-pilled resources.
・any rentry.org and геddiт "guides". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Core 2.3k, Core 2k and any "Core" Anki decks. They are based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Ankidrone Starter Pack instead.
・Anacreon. Anacreon is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
・Discord servers. Discord is malware that runs a data mining operation. Ask questions on Matrix.
・Refold, Migaku and other money grab schemes.
・Visual novels. Experienced learnmaybe_good/vmess_20.2.85.115_ers say they're trash because of unnatural speech and useless vocabulary. Most VNs are proprietary ー https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/
・Cure Dolly. Read All About Particles instead.

糞みたいなコピペしててよく飽きないな

>>40753369
>>40753126
>Ignore Tatsumoto
Tatsumoto is unironically the best Japanese language guide out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_UNZ13_6E

i dont care how you became "fluent" in japanese bro i really dont

>>40753478
>>40753470
>is russian
wrong
>spams his shit everyday, hijacking every OP he can
wrong
>just wants you to give him money via patreon
wrong
>lies about other guides and resources
wrong
>uses gaytrix, has a fake """djt""" server there
wrong
>uses lincux
based
>uses MAL
based
>samefags
wrong
>doesn't actually know Japanese
wrong

>>40753490
>>40753381
>>40753389
Analcream hijacked the DJT thread for a personal spam campaign and hopes to manipulate other DJT posters into supporting his war on Tatsumoto.


To resist this manipulation, create a separate thread and abandon this one.

>>40753513
毎日暇そうだけど仕事してんの？

>>40753530
self own

>>40753407
>>40753530
joined the matrix space to avoid anacreon spam.

goooooooooood morning

today's immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rWo60xtoEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Sr5T32tQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypu2_R1d3YQ

>>40753407
>>40753381
Tatsuscammer hijacked the DJT thread for a personal spam campaign and hopes to manipulate other DJT posters into supporting his war on Anacreon.


To resist this manipulation, stay in this a thread and filter tatsumoto.

マジで日本語勉強してからガイドを作ってね

>>40753614
> hijacked the DJT thread
It's not tatsu who puts spam in the OP every time.

guide: do stuff you enjoy in japanese

>>40753627
he (you) tries to but embarrasses himself every time he does because no one posts in his thread lmaoo

>>40753639
>>40753614
Tatsumoto doesn't even post on 4chan, analcretin.

lol natives crippled

>>40753614
>>40753484
>>40753126
Tatsumoto's advice:
>just use the fucking language!
>use whatever learning method, just keep using the language doing things you like!
>these anki decks are optional

Animetards and themoeway's advice:
>use my anki deck
>watch dolly's videos because I say so
>subscribe to my patreon for more!
>join my Cringecord

Nigger you're talking to yourself, aren't you tired?

>>40753655
いさぎいい

We need a final solution to the shill problem, any ideas?

>>40753680
ban anacreon, disallow links in the OP

>>40750640
children have much more easily accessible neuroplasticity than adults. adults need deliberate practice, children don't. unless you're telling us you're 12

force anyone who posts their guide to take a japanese test (tatsuretard will fail)

>>40753695
They'll just shill their shit in the thread itself then, like tatsumoto (You) is doing right now

they need to stream themselves reading a mareni vinnie

きょうのふるいにほんご
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNvPlJVHDI

確かに、俺達ゃ好き勝手してる。 　規律なんてご立派なものはない。 お前や菊千代に、文句言う筋合いもない


is there some way that や can be が? the translation says you have no right to complain about 菊千代 which makes sense, but if や is the inexhaustive listing particle than I can only read it as I have no right to complain about you and 菊千代 which doesn't make as much sense

>>40753767
ひとのなまえ

>>40753767
they are the ones would hypothetically say the monku

>>40753126
>>40753369

Djt thread official guides animecards themoeway advice:
>just use the fucking language!
>use whatever learning method, just keep using the language doing things you like!
>these anki decks are optional

Tatsuspammer's advice:
>use my anki deck
>use my OS because I say so
>subscribe to my patreon for more!
>>oin my gaytrix

>>40753711
>>40753793
tatsu doesn't know about 4chan and never posted here

On today's installment of readings I'll never remember and will leech me to infinity and beyond...

>>40753767
the list isn't お前や + 菊千代
it's just お前や

>>40753802
How would you know that

>>40753826
why don't you just learn 乗じる on it's own? You can 乗ずる a lot of things

>>40753826
you will see 生贄 everywhere if you immerse, much like 人質
and 乗じる is just what some kind of じる and ずる verbs do, they take the onyomi
like 興じる or 案ずる

>>40753802
Facts about tatsuscammer and his guide:

>His “guide is actually just a money grab
>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creators of the official djt guides animecards and the moe way

Beginners, be sure to use only official djt guides linked in the op of the thread if you want to make it!

>>40753886
i haven't seen 人質 in forever, it just depends on what you merse in

>>40753826
I’m not the guy that says n6 to everything and I mean this in a motivating way when I say those are both easy and common you will remember them brother

>>40753261
i think thats the wrong way to say it
オナホに童貞を奪われた would be correct

>>40753927
>>40753874
>>40753793
Facts about moeway/animecards and his guide:

>His “guide is actually just a money grab
>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creator of the official djt guide Tatsumoto

Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by Tatsumoto if you want to make it!

>>40753886
true true 人質 is very common no matter what you consume in japanese

>>40753907
>>40753678
>>40753375
Disregard SHIT advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・tmw/The moe way. Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny.
・any rentry.org and геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners.
・Anime cards (the guide by someone named QM). It recommends words cards, which are proven to be less effective than targeted sentence cards (TSCs).
・Core 2.3k. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Ankidrone Starter Pack instead.
・Anacreon. Anacreon is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
・Discord servers. Discord is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Matrix.
・Refold, Migaku and other money grab schemes.
・Visual novels. Experienced learners say they're trash because of unnatural speech and useless vocabulary. Most VNs are proprietary ー https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

Tatsumoto is the best guide. Be sure to read his religion/story.

>>40753937
>His “guide is actually just a money grab
False
>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
False
>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creator of the official djt guide Tatsumoto
Tatsuscammer doesnt know Japanese

Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by quizmaster and themoeway if you want to make it like I did I’m fluent now!

>>40753955
False see >>40753907

>>40753885
Because I've never seen it alone before I guess.

>>40753886
I just instantly read it as nojiru in my mind and then flip the card and want to die a lil bit inside lol

It's all so tiresome

Animecards guy is the only one who proved his skill (somewhat) so I'll be using that.

Better seeing some kind of result than empty promises.

>>40753973
just remember there's a cluster of these verbs that take the onyomi when you try to read it as nojiru again

>>40753907
>Facts about tatsuscammer and his guide
Tatsumoto is not a scammer, analfag.
>His “guide is actually just a money grab
False
>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
False
>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creators of the official djt guides animecards and the moe way
False. mary and mehmet don't know Japanese

Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by Tatsumoto! Analcream tries to hijack the thread to shill his shit! all other guides are patreon scams!

>>40753126
>>40754009
>>40753959
>>40753937
>>40753907
Important information for beginners

did over 1k reps after a long ass time

>>40754009
>Facts about tatsuscammer and his guide
>Tatsumoto is not a scammer, analfag.
False
>His “guide is actually just a money grab
>False
False
>>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
>False
False
>>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creators of the official djt guides animecards and the moe way
>False. mary and mehmet don't know Japanese
False
>Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by Tatsumoto! Analcream tries to hijack the thread to shill his shit! all other guides are patreon scams!
False

Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by quizmaster and the moe way! tatsuscammer tries to hijack the thread to shill his shit! all other guides are patreon scams! I’m fluent thanks to animecards!

>>40754018
Debunked see >>40753973 and >>40753907

>>40754043
>>40754009
>>40754028
Don't follow the MoeWay guide because it's a scam run by a turkish tranny. Ignore his idiocy poor fuck is a mentally ill spammer trying to scam people with his site. If you truly wish to learn Japanese i would recommend you to read Tatsumoto's guide to learning Japanese so you will reach true fluency level.

>>40754028
how many did you get correct?

>>40754009
>>40753369
Don't follow the tatsuscammer guide because it's a scam run by a russian tranny. Ignore his idiocy poor fuck is a mentally ill spammer trying to scam people with his site. If you truly wish to learn Japanese i would recommend you to read quizmasters guide to learning Japanese so you will reach true fluency level like I did!

>>40754060
>>40754055
>>40753966
I've been using the "moeway" guide for a while and IMO its not worth it , its not a good guide it isn't written well and requires too much effort for no good reason. It's more than a Jap learning method more like Mehmet's (shoui's) lifestyle choices he's forcing onto you IMO.

i think the Tatsumoto guide is better (Decided to start using it a week ago) because they are more focused/streamlined idk how you call it.

>>40754060
most
im just clearing a massive fucking backlog and im nowhere close to done

>>40754072
>>40754058
>>40754060
Disturbing facts about QM, the author of the so-called a*imecards "guide".

0) It was MattvJapan's "Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards" video that made him known to the public. and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his trannycord server.
1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.
2) He's Russian.
3) He created a fake "djt" cringecord server where he made numerous racist and trans-phobic comments. He's a racist and a white supremacist.
4) His "server" has nothing to do with the DJT Matrix space.
5) He hosts his site on Github (owned by Micro$oft).

He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does. Stick to targeted sentence cards if you want to get good.

>>40753369
I've been using the tatsumoto “guide” for a while and IMO its not worth it , its not a good guide it isn't written well and requires too much effort for no good reason. It's more than a Jap learning method more like his lifestyle choices he's forcing onto you IMO.
i think themoeway guide is better (Decided to start using it a week ago) because they are more focused/streamlined idk how you call it.

>>40754079
i once did that too, took them 500 at a time spread out over the day
i think i had 3000 or something piled up

nowadays i would just delete the deck and start a new mining deck
good luck

おもいだした

きくちよ

あのん

七人の侍みてるのん？

>>40754094
yeah dont worry im good at this

literally me

>>40754089
>Disturbing facts about QM, the author of the so-called a*imecards "guide".
>0) It was MattvJapan's "Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards" video that made him known to the public. and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his trannycord server.
False
>1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.
False
>2) He's Russian.
False
>3) He created a fake "djt" cringecord server where he made numerous racist and trans-phobic comments. He's a racist and a white supremacist.
Based
>4) His "server" has nothing to do with the DJT Matrix space.
False
>5) He hosts his site on Github (owned by Micro$oft).
Based
>He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does. Stick to targeted sentence cards if you want to get good.
False

Beginners be sure to check out the official djt threads linked in the op if you want to become fluent like I did!

>>40754093
>>40754094
>>40754099
the so called l*arnjapanese.moe is a scammer who begs for your money. he needs money so he can run away from his country. He also constantly hijacks /djt/ threads and shills his garbage guide.

been using the tatsumoto guide and TSCs (targeted sentence cards) are a game changer! just reached 98.66% retention with them!

no one asked

>>40754107
>>40754093
that’s the fake outdated guide. beginners be sure to read the updated djt guide at tatsumoto.neocities.org. daily reminder that targeted sentence cards are the best way to utilize anki to acquire japanese

>>40754058
Disturbing facts about tatsumoto, the author of his so-called "guide".

0) It was MattvJapan's "Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards" video that made him known to the public. and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his gaytrix server.
1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.
2) He's Russian.
3) He created a fake "djt" gaytrix server where he made numerous racist and trans-phobic comments. He's a racist and a white supremacist.
4) His "server" has nothing to do with the DJT discord space.
5) He hosts his site on Github (owned by Micro$oft).

He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does. Stick to anime cards if you want to get good.

is his bot broken or has he actually gone insane

>>40754093
Im a beginner. Thanks for the great advice I will avoid that guide and stick to the guides linked in the OP

Thoughts on renshuu?
Also, what's a good site to learn kanji with the picture clues on what the kanji strokes look like?

>>40754136
he saw that one anon filter reply chains so now he starts replying to random unrelated people

>>40754154
lmao

>>40754122
>0) It was MattvJapan's "Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards" video that made him known to the public. and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his gaytrix server.
False
>1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.
False
>2) He's Russian.
False
>3) He created a fake "djt" gaytrix server where he made numerous racist and trans-phobic comments. He's a racist and a white supremacist.
False
Tatsu would never make any racist or trans-phobic comments because she's a minority herself.
>4) His "server" has nothing to do with the DJT discord space.
False
>5) He hosts his site on Github (owned by Micro$oft).
False

>>40754163
true true good boy yosi yosi

>>40754140
>>40754138
Tatsumoto is the best guide. Be sure to read his religion/story.

>>40754170
>>40754158
>>40754109
beware djt. scammer l*rnjapanese.moe is a russian hacker who wants to steal your money. and sell your wifes panties at the black market.

you really just need to read a grammar guide, learn to mine, do Ankidrone Starter Pack, and watch anime (most important part)

>>40754193
i dont have a wife and i dont need a guide

T(wo bots arguing with each other)JT

>>40754197
>>40754179
>>40754075
I started studying again in April after a ten year break. during those ten years i only watched anime without subs and chatted with randos on tinder. here is how i got back into studying:
1. download Ankidrone Starter Pack and do 10 to 30 new cards per day to jog your memory on the basics. set it so new cards appear before reviews as reviews do not matter. let the audio for the example sentences play. Delete the cards you already understand.
2. get a mining setup going with tatsumoto.neocities.org
3. pick one ln, one manga, and long anime you want to actively mine. work on all four of these together and decide which you want to tackle on any particular day purely based on your mood.
4. start making writings TSCs to learn to write. set number of daily new cards to whatever lets you finish in one year.
5. download condenser (impd — see tatsumoto's article about passive listening) and condense the audio of ALL of your favorite anime. listen to a different series each day as background noise.
6. at some point early on, read All About Particles for grammar refresher (the ebook is linked on the tatsumoto website).
7. start a common name deck. set new card limit to whatever lets you finish in a year.

All these people sharing their stories but the number of posters isn’t increasing. They must be sharing a computer

>>40754251
lol

>>40754251
really makes me think

>>40754251
気の所為じゃない？

mods, please do something about all this spam, ban me but at least take this schizo shitting up the thread down as well
or better yet, add his website/name to the global 4chan spam filter

thanks

>>40753369
>>40753372
>>40753389
>>40753407
>>40753423
>>40753471
>>40753484
>>40753494
>>40753513
>>40753575
>>40753627
>>40753646
>>40753672
>>40753695
>>40753802
>>40753937
>>40753955
>>40753959
>>40754009
>>40754018
>>40754058
>>40754075
>>40754089
>>40754108
>>40754120
>>40754163
>>40754179
>>40754193
>>40754237

>>40753680
i tried hopefully it works, might have missed some of his posts

>>40754360
valiant effort anon, don't think it's gonna work though, he'll just ban evade

i had 道連れ mined but i blanked on the kana wtf

>>40754360
not fair
tatsumoto's guide is actually good, but analcream constantly hijacks djt threads and spams his sites.

>>40754429
ur objectively spamming more
keep the guide posts to 5 a thread

>>40754429
Whatever quality the guide has is overshadowed by the absolute state of this fucking thread, who'd wanna use that shit after seeing this.

If he just replied with his site to anons where it's actually relevant, instead of getting in a flame war (with himself) all the time nobody would care

>>40753423
not fair
quizmasters guide is actually good, but tatsuscammer constantly hijacks djt threads and spams his sites see>>40754360

>>40754360
lets see if the new mods are actually any good
also, nice 絵

>>40754461
>instead of getting in a flame war (with himself) all the time
lmaoo tatsumoto really isnt well

>>40754505
just shut up retard hes finally become quiet

>>40754360
Based むれん sacrificing one of his (infinite) ips for the thread

mods, please do something about all this spam, ban me but at least take this schizo shitting up the thread down as well
or better yet, add his websites/names (animecards, anacreon, learnjapanese.moe) to the global 4chan spam filter
>>40753381
>>40753375
>>40753129
>>40753126
>>40753470
>>40753639
>>40753793
>>40753614
>>40753639
>>40753705
>>40753711
>>40753680
>>40753793
>>40753907
>>40753959
>>40753975
>>40754043
>>40754055
>>40754072
>>40754093
>>40754107
>>40754122
>>40754136
>>40754170

thanks

i tried hopefully it works, might have missed some of his posts

epic

7
no

>>40754526
not fair
quizmasters guide is actually good, but tatsuscammer constantly hijacks djt threads and spams his sites 笑

>>40754461
okay, why does analcream put his spam sites in the OP and even says to avoid tatsumoto? i think you're biased.

gotta say, between the two, tatsu used a better pic no cap

>>40754557
frfr

>>40754526
okay, why does tatsuscammer put his spam sites in the OP and even says to avoid Anacreon? i think you're biased.

dicks aren't hot

its whats under it thats hot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDhU6nWWja8

>>40754566
Tatsumoto doesn't post on 4chan. And the guy who makes Tatsumoto threads does it very rarely. Analcream has basically took over the threads. Compare this shit to the OP on /int/ which hasn't been hijacked.

>>40754551
Anacreon doesn't post on 4chan. And the guy who makes Anacreon threads does it very rarely. Tatsuscammer has basically took over the threads. Compare this shit to the OP on /int/ which hasn't been hijacked.

>>40754607
>>40754551
>Anacreon doesn't post on 4chan.
yeah sure

>>40754592
>Tatsuscammer doesn't post on 4chan.
yeah sure buddy

>>40754634
no one would remember those posts if you didnt keep bringing them up lmao way to damage your own reputation

>>40754663
like if anybody would read analcringe's posts and trust what they say

>>40754526
based
lets see if the new mods are actually any good
also, nice 絵

>>40754551
I don't like that either but it's a lot less obnoxious
Ideally there'd only be itazureneko, alternatively the shill guides could be listed to as expanding on itazuraneko. Don't think anyone would be bothered by that

analfag spam is very obnoxious
instead of spamming "ignore tatsumoto" and shilling your shit simply add all guides to the OP

>>40754807
1 post is easier to ignore than 100
>instead of spamming "ignore tatsumoto" and shilling your shit simply add all guides to the OP
your terms are acceptable

>>40754807
i disagree with your biased opinion tatsumoto. it would be a bad idea to add your “site” to the op because it is a scam

>>40754961
tatsumoto left 4chan more than a year ago because of people like you

and I disagree with the idea of spamming literal patreon scams in every OP. At least tatsumoto doesn't ask for donations every day, like mehmet does for example.

>>40755000
tatsumoto was confirmed to be posting here as of at least march. as for your image, it is obviously photoshopped nice try

>>40755017
is mehmet's site also photoshopped?

>>40755017
tats stopped posting on 4chan in 2021

>>40755058
The top picture is from tatsumotos patreon and the bottom picture is photoshopped see https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=43555128 and also https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/donating-to-tatsumoto.html

>>40755126
Wow, beginners tatsuscammer outed himself as a patreon beggar! All his content is locked behind a paywall! What an obvious scam!

>>40754416
i wrote it in kana because that's how it shows up in pokemon lol

>>40754493
are there even any meidos here? i self-reported and it's still up an hour later

>>40754522
not mlen, i have a static ip and i never ban evaded before
not every holoposter is mlen

>>40755126
>>40755140
Wow thanks for exposing him! I’m a beginner. Everyone should see this >>40753369
>>40753407

>>40755126
http://learnjapanese.moe/faq/#why-this-faq-was-made

curious the poster count didn't increase when beginner-kun showed up

>>40755058
>>40755058
Wow, beginners mehmet outed himself as a patreon beggar! All his content is locked behind a paywall! What an obvious scam!

beginners please follow Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese if you want to be fluent!

>>40755199
Nice photoshop. Another tatsumoto confirmed 4chan sighting today 8/3/22 beginners remember this day for when he pretends that he doesn’t post here

>korongay has less viewers than iroha and danchou
lmaoo

>>40755249
Tatsumoto doesn't even post on 4chan, analcretin.

>>40755292
Everyone that knows Japanese knows anacreon hasn’t posted on 4chan since March of 2020

>>40755330
Analcream pretends to be different people to spam his garbage sites and beg for donations because he needs money to run away from his shithole country.

>>40755292
Tatsuscammer pretends to be different people to spam his garbage sites and beg for donations because he needs money to run away from his shithole country. See >>40755126

>>40755382
>Tatsuscammer
false
>pretends
false
>different people
true
>to spam his
false
>garbage
false
>sites
true
>and beg for donations
false
>because he needs money
false
>to run away
false
>from his shithole country
false
>See
i don't see anything

Most false. Go back to your discord, analspammer.

>>40755382
its a false fag operation

Ok I'm just a machine/CNC operator. Despite not having a college degree, would I still be able to get a job in one of their machine shops if I get an N3 (or N1)? I know some old fanuc lathes pretty well.

>>40755700
dont try to get an n1 imo, youll learn more stuff youll never see again. just aim for n2. you can get that easy in 2 years of hard work

>>40753470
>>uses lincux
Biggest redflag

>>40753470
>uses linux
extremely based
thanks tatsumoto, I'm fluent now!
>>40755806
kys analspammer

>>40753423
>uses windows
extremely based
thanks quizmaster, I'm fluent now!

>>40755455
Kys tatsuscammer

I'm so glad I actually took time to switch to TSCs. Now I'm finally making progress!

>>40756073
You're right. If anything, TSCs contributed the most to my Japanese learning success.

https://youtu.be/xc7D2A-ekNk?t=643
今年一かわいいかもしれん

>>40756087
>>40756073
Tatsuspammer doesnt know what くれる means bwahahahaha

>>40753935
makes sense, thanks

一石二鳥

this made me question if 'two birds one stone' was imported from japanese/chink for a second. It fits perfectly

Ok tatsumoto's an e-beggar but does his method work?

>>40756261
basically anything works. language learning isn't some hard problem where there's a secret trick. people have been doing it for thousands of years. it's just a matter of time

>>40756275
Good to know. Thanks.

last 3 posts all the spammer btw

>>40756292
kys I'm a newfag

>>40756302
then the answer's no

>>40753470
> Here's some facts about tatsumoto and his “guide”:
> >is russian
Okay. You pray on Kenian Katzumoto and Jewish Xiaomanyc, but you can't take advices from russian guy? Cringe.
> >spams his shit everyday, hijacking every OP he can
This OP too? I see "anacreon" hijacked this op.
> >just wants you to give him money via patreon
Where did he wrote it? I see that "shouji" writes about patreon more than about japanese.
> >lies about other guides and resources
Opinion isn't "lying".
> >uses gaytrix, has a fake """djt""" server there
Nothing wrong to use software that doesn't steal your data.
> >uses lincux
Nothing wrong to use software that doesn't steal your data.
> >uses MAL
Ok, well, it's better to use pen and paper (irony).
> >samefags
Usual djt behaviour.
> >doesn't actually know Japanese
No, he really knows jap. I talked with him and asked some questions that only japanese knows. He answered correctly, so his immersion level is very well.

>>40756307
I've just bookmarked his site and found the Linux shit to be a bit spergy.

>>40756330
Learn English first buddy

outputted
how about you anon

>>40756330
i need a good anki deck where should i go?
i want sentences and audio on it,
and i dont want to mine another shitty deck

>>40756355
I know English well for communicating on anonymous imageboards.
Also please show me my mistakes.

>>40756373
get Ankidrone Starter Pack

>>40756373
>i dont want to mine another shitty deck
ngmi

https://eigobu.jp/
this site is pretty gud

>>40756373
I don't know. Why do you ask me? I learned jap words with "natural immersion" or how you called that.

>>40756384
cool thanks ill try it

＞味噌スープで顔を洗って出直してこい！
do j*ps actually talk like this lol

>>40756382
>can't take advices from russian guy
from the first line. didn’t read after that. also
>know english well for communicating

>>40756409
yea thats what im doing but i hate relearning the same phrase or word 10+ times so i wanted to try anki again, im n2 level already almost all through immersion

>>40756382
>know English well for
You don't.

>>40756382
>>40756428
>i dont want to mine another shitty deck
>i hate relearning the same phrase or word 10+ times
one or the other. Why don't you want to mine your own?

>>40756382
you dont

literally me

>>40756495
that sounds kinda gay bro, u ok?

Is it worth it to moonspeak if you don't watch animu at all? I'm a /vn/ anon so merely understanding spoken Japanese wouldn't be enough for my hobby, I'd actually have to be able to read thousands of kanji.

>>40756462
the top post wasnt me, and mining your own deck is a nightmare imo, and then you have to keep it up forever etc.. its not for me, i just want a premade deck i can go through for a month or so and just suspend everything i already know and eat away at some stuff i dont
for a while, going to try the 'anki drone' deck thnx

>>40756529
half the people here don't watch anime and probably exclusively read vns or lns so yeah

>have to be able to read thousands of kanji
maybe like 2500, 3k at most, kanji isn't the hard part

Anyone have any suggestions for one-shot LNS (or normal novels), or at least shorter COMPLETED series, that are on itazuraneko? I found the Decagon House Murders.

>>40756529
>>40756548
most visual novels should be avoided since they are proprietary
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-games.html

>>40756532
It really isn't that bad, there's plenty of tools to make it convenient.
If you don't want to keep up with your reviews, why bother doing anki at all? Going through ankidrone is just gonna be the same experience, tons of words you already know. The whole point of those decks is to give you same baseline vocabulary which you apparently already have.

>>40756524
yes

>>40756573
don't die from monkeypox

>>40756571
i cant be consistent enough to do anki infinitely but its helped me in the past, but i look back at those years as a traumatic experience so i just want to mix things up. maybe have my cake and eat it too

>>40756571
stop replying to him please

>>40756636
Why, what's wrong with him
I will reply to him next btw

>>40756495
hes just like me frfr

>>40756554
japanese is proprietary

>>40756630
How about you set your amount of new cards per day low enough so the review amount stays within acceptable levels?
You don't have to do it forever, suspend cards which don't stick (default anki setting iirc), suspend cards if you've gotten them right x amount of times, etc..
You could also set a max amount of reviews a day, far from ideal though

>>40756529
I only watched anime before I started learning and now I only read vns.

knowing japanese makes anime like 20% more enjoyable, but vns 200% more enjoyable

>>40756548
if you're going to read anything other than moege its more like 3500-4000

listened to an hour of podcasts
i guess thats about 100 anime eps worth

>>40756979
>3500-4000
Jesus! How many kanji does a Japanese senior student know? Let's assume he's a B tier student not some genius.

>>40756984
really though, anime and games for listening practice is a joke (not talking about vn's)

>>40757019
around 3k

>>40757024
adding on, and that would be a decently read college educated person
barely anyone knows 3.5 let alone 4k

Does anyone actually believe you can learn this language in 8.5 months?

>>40757076
if youre a native korean speaker you can (its a dialect for them)

>>40757120
or urdu

>>40756495
lol. whats that from?

>>40757024
>>40757041
you mean anyone who has passed modern high school
just counting the jouyou and most of the jinmeiyou kanji alone gets you close to 3k, plus all of the other random kanji they would randomly get to know throughout their life

>>40757076
You can learn it in < 6 months if you're only interested in speaking.

>>40757174
lol no

>>40757076
questions like this are just about how you define learn

sup dekinais

>>40757183
I taught myself how to perform surgery in about 4 months, trust me Japanese it's way easier than becoming a back-alley doctor.

>>40757215
im a back door doctor

god im never playing a vn where you need to unlock the true route ever again
took me months to get around to finishing it

god im never playing a vn

is it doable to set up that VN texthooker stuff on linux?

>>40756529
why would it be harder to learn to read kanji than to understand speech? you need to learn the words either way, and kanji provide a richer symbolic combination to associate with meaning than the 100 syllables in the spoken language. also they stay visible as you're reading them and don't momentarily disappear like speech
admittedly, people might be overall better at remembering auditory language, since that's what language is originally, but you'd have to have a solid study on this
>>40757632
yes, it just works. as long as your vn works

>>40753126
yabeeeeee

>>40757671
I just came across 喩え. can you tell me the difference between these two without looking it up? vns are filled with kanji like that.

>>40757076
if you use the most efficient strategies possible and replace all your leisure time with japanese you'll be high intermediate

>>40757816
which two

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/we6qhz/is_my_japanese_bad_or_are_my_coworkers_not

lmfao

>>40756428
I mean I live in Japan.

>>40757915
this has to be a troll post

>>40753266
holy picked up
>>40753608
yooooo so much good stuff!
>>40753614
based will do
>>40753639
true lmao
>>40753754
n8ce kyok
>>40753826
wanna 生贄 ogs manko bros...
>>40753886
good post
>>40753973
its always like that at first, 見上 and 素人 sucked for me, then one day they click
>>40754028
based
>>40754122
missed you bro keep up the good fight
>>40754505
he really isn't, fun fact the original not well anon was tatsucuckhold spamming about casing almost a year ago, hes always been a schizo imbecile
>>40754522
take meds he doesn't exist
yosh today too lets do our best!

>>40757915
this is insane lol

>>40757930
nice, i did too for a while

>>40754580
yoooo good kyok!
>>40754892
eat shit tatsucuckhold, your shit was in the op at one time and yet you spammed
everyone hates you for a reason, and its a good one
mind you anacuck is shit too but you are substantially more shit
>>40755171
don't bother, here, have a lui for your sacrifice based hero anon
btw the one that started that was also tatsucuckhold and low iq imbeciles actually fell for it and bought that everyone not in the tripcuck circlejerk is the same guy, lmfaooo
tatsucuckhold aint the only not well fuck here
regardless! we live in a wonderful world full of wonderful things, don't let the antifairy bother you

reddit dunning krugers are funny asf
feel bad for the coworker, shes trying to fix their mess and they think shes the dumb one

>>40757019
everyone knows about 3k but there's a trick to it, a lot are very similar and they infer from others, theyre also everywhere so they see them all the time
above that number theres rare stuff you seldom see, or things that are "random" and you can't easily guess, look up kanken pass rates for more on that

>>40757174
true
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_oalr6uXQ
whew made it to the end
rep time

Isn't https://takoboto.jp/ a better alternative to jisho? It orders things in order of frequency properly compared to Jisho

>>40756017
she was held back a few years is all

jisho sucks so anything is better

dame shes so good ichimi bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7bgOl4wl_I

>>40758147
give examples to non-monolingual dictionary sites better than it

>>40758130
j-j is better than both but yeah that looks better than jisho

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIeV_LZXHM

>>40758170
anything that doesnt use jmdict

>>40758221
examples please anon

If I wanted to say which meat does this broth contain, i know 何が入っていますか？is the general form, but would it become 肉の汁は何が入っていますか？

>>40758246
熱いお汁

>>40753210
>jannies not being retards
you're already putting too much faith in them

as for og, my meat

>>40758291
god i love og

you will never cook japanese food

>>40758058
kanji sound sisters..

>>40758314
i literally am AS WE SPEAK
you will never fucks IN SHAMBLES

>>40758314
my wife will teach me a little so i can cook while shes sick and so on but otherwise she wont let me

>>40757858
What if I read 5ch all day?

anyone itt who isn't caught up in the schizo shill war know what's the best guide?

>>40758246
どんな肉を入れたのですか？

>>40758344
gmi

>>40758345
Just pick one and start already. Start today. Right now in fact.

>>40758345
official guide:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%AE%8C%E5%85%A8%E8%87%AA%E6%AE%BA%E3%83%9E%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB-%E9%B6%B4%E8%A6%8B-%E6%B8%88/dp/4872331265

>night time in russia
>he stops spamming
hmmmm
-my thoughts

>>40758401
it's 8 pm in moscow

>>40758401
>>night time
Isn't it only like 8PM or some shit?

>>40758421
>>40758425
omg our periods are in synch sister

>>40758345

>guide
guide これ into your あそこ

>>40758314
just age cupmen

>>40758345
look at the op

>>40758345
you should be able to solve this if you have the capacity to make it
if not then you should be thankful for the early filter

you will never cook japanese food
you will never fuck a jk
you will never know japanese

>>40758437
lmao

>>40758635
dont care about the last two
couldnt remember the word 乾く today and it was fine

you will never cook a japanese
you will never fuck japanese food
you will never know a jk

>>40758657
i laughed out loud

>>40758635
already did
true
already do

just shave your beard

imagine all the 欲求不満 jks that have a foreigner fetish. i wonder what will happen if kisida makes them wait any longer

Anki is a meme. There I said it.

>>40758657
already did
true
already do

there's a term brain drain
soon there will be manko drain

>>40758707
your life is a meme

>>40758731
Yes.

>>40758673
ciaran i kneel

>>40758721
thought of making this exact post i shit you not. djt really is a hive mind

>>40758635
already did
already did
to do list

Anons do you think adding common words to Anki based on similar kanji is a bad method?
For example
>幻
>幻想
>幻影
>幻覚
>幻術
>幻夢
>幻獣

>>40758925
yeah but there's worse ways to cripple yourself

>>40758939
Why do you think so? Because it's to similar?

>>40758925
you could have done so and repped them all in the time it took you to post

>>40758925
yeah its a shit method because you're only learning kanji readings and not the words, you wouldn't catch any of them in raw listening

>>40758925
no, i think its a greay method, every word reinforces every other word as long as you arent retarded and remember the readings
going 1 by 1 is pointless

>>40758946
I already did

>>40758956
>you're only learning kanji readings
What? Are you missing the part where it helps with association?

>>40758965
based and gmi pilled

>>40758965
you're missing the part where you don't know japanese
you're only reinforcing the kanji readings but there are no kanji in listening your brain won't acquire shit i've already tried the method

>>40758925
all n7

>>40758925
all kanken 2 very nice anon

>>40758993
reading helps with listening, but isn't this the case with all Anki word learnings? I'm not dumb and I immerse along with Anki

>>40758925
acquired
>幻
>幻想
>幻影
>幻覚
>幻術
>幻夢
>幻獣
thanks anon

>>40758993
>your brain
>i've already tried
kek should we tell him?

acquired おいひー

>>40759014
yep as you can see thats a mentally ill troll
anki is just for learning readings, the actual words you pick from elsewhere
note how he talks about raw listening where it has nothing to do with anything, also look at this schizo gem 021
in other words, that anon?
not well at alplease dont feed the trolls

>>40759014
>reading helps with listening
yes
>but isn't this the case with all Anki word learnings
yes it isn't your brain will just work out the reading with the kanji in front as a crutch and you will nod your head thinking you know the word and hit good
why do you think so many people say "my listening is behind my reading" lol there's no such thing

>>40759021
tell me what?
>>40759038
yeah you should be banned for trolling i've done more anki than 99% of the people in this thread

my listening is way AHEAD of my reading, but making fun of deaf anons is not cool regardless

>>40758945
better to learn words in context, and no a dictionary definition isn't context

better to be capable of manifestimg your own context

even if we granted the "ive done more anki than anyone", thats a sample size of 1 and there is the very real possibility you are retarded, or have some other issue that isn't universally appliable, for instance, you sit posting n6 no matter what is posted, all day
you also seem to think this is an intermediate thread when such a thing doesn't even exist and sef wouldn't be here
in other words, schizophrenia is very likely

>>40759079
well put. i concede and will correct my behavior.

>>40759079
yep this anon won

>>40759079
very strong projection i didn't make those posts
you are severely mentally ill don't reply to me or anyone in this thread again you are a derailing troll and don't contribute anything

>>40759088
Wise. Probably not retarded.

>>40759088
no worries bro nobody is perfect, lets be our best seleves going forward!

>>40759079
no idea what this post is trying to convey

You guys ARE immersing right now right?

got to say he's made me angry i guess trolls like him are the reason why qm put on a trip

>>40759079
ding ding ding ding
!!!!! 《《《POSTOFTHETHREAD》》》 ¡¡¡¡¡

>>40759128
my god what is your problem

>>40759128
>>40759079
true true
hoooolyy brutal

i wasn't even talking to him but he went out of his way to call me a low iq mentally ill troll despite me giving real advice from my experience and being way better at japanese than he is most likely and now he's samefagging and spamming the thread certain that i am some boogeyman. i can't even tell if he's trolling or genuinely that retarded

how do you think he behaves when he steps out irl would you want this person around you
give me one good reason why people like him shouldn't be killed

>>40759121
does og count as immersion?

your personalities are so distinct that i see trip codes for each of you

60
imagine anyone suggesting this fine specimen of mental wellness is anything but well
yikes

>>40759173
do you have anything on topic to say

78
nta but i hope you get the meds you so desperately need one day good luck bro
>>40759172
e..even me...?

if anki is only for learning readings then why add 6 words to drill a kanji that only has one on yomi?

>>40759191
yes. the only area of improvement for you is lewdness of images.

>>40759079
based

you could samefag a million times it's not going to change anything except make you look even more pathetic

never saw this before, how to solve this without having to make everything japanese? I tried emulating my location already

>>40759209
that is simple, human beings chunk information, its counterintuitive, but humans don't read every character in everything all the time, but recognize patterns, and to get the pattern in, it has to be seen, a lot
acquiring the reading by having multiple cards using the kanji is faster and more effective than trying to remember "this kanji has only one reading no matter the context"
in other words, familiarity
as anon said, it wont help with listening, but it WILL get the readings down, and really you are spending 5 seconds per card on average, so its not wasted opportunity cost (imho)

>inb4 finding them orgnanically is better
different conversation altogether

>>40759277
game? sounds odd but have you tried changing your time/date format to japanese one?

>>40759277
https://moegesoft.com/tutorial-how-to-run-japanese-visual-novels-moegesoft/
fix might be there, some games need a crack

>>40759294
>acquiring the reading by having multiple cards using the kanji is faster and more effective than trying to remember "this kanji has only one reading no matter the context"
no its not

Is there a way to delete all the Core6K words from another anki deck, so I wouldn't see duplicates?

delete anki

>>40759366
well, it is for me, we are both sample sizes of 1, so ill leave the conversation there
not saying you are wrong mind you, but for me, i just get the readings down to where they are done automatically, i never really consciously think about them unless i don't have the word down
not knocking your expertise, either, which im sure is vast, nor am i trying to be a dick, in fact im trying to be very very very polite
hope you have a great day anon!

>>40759410
i don't think about readings consciously either
>not knocking your expertise, either, which im sure is vast, nor am i trying to be a dick
you just were
>in fact im trying to be very very very polite
only now after attacking me for no reason and you're not doing me a favor by being polite

>>40759385
use ankiconnect and script it https://foosoft.net/projects/anki-connect/index.html

>>40759443
bro, im aware you have anger issues and im trying to not trigger you but you have to work with me here, cmon anon please
err i mean you have no issues, its the world that does this
anyway lets just leave it there
here have a happy elf, you like elfs right?
no episode this week or next but lets remember better times
cheers

>>40759485
you're the one who started flinging shit and spamming i wasn't talking to you

苦肉の策

>>40759309
>>40759321
Summer Pockets is working, guys. Thank you!

https://files.catbox.moe/5ce5ew.mp3

>>40759503
anon, theres more than one person in this thread, and odds are more than a few think the way you flip out is funny
if i wanted to troll you, i wouldn't be posting this

>>40759385
Actually, anki has a 'find duplicates' function as well, if both decks have the same field name you could use that I think, mark the cards as duplicate, and then delete the cards which are in the other deck and are marked as duplicate

>>40759543
>anon, theres more than one person in this thread
very true >>40759038 could learn something from you

>>40759537
yabeee

i am simply better than all of you

so the thread just devolved to perma n5 vtuberfags that live in this thread 24/7 and tatsumoto shilling his guide

been 3 yrs but im finally reaching the stage where i dont wanna kill myself while consuming content letsgooooo

i simply understand it

What is the difference between iru and aru when you're trying to say that something exists?

>>40759663
gmi!

>>40759663
thats a nice moment hold onto it

>>40759535
no worries!

mined 幸 from umi no —
n2

>>40759215
yoshi! have a lewd koyo

>>40759662
blind vtubers leading blind vtubers. pretty based how 0 of them made it within 2.5 years

>>40759694
fucking love hip swaying. it will never become cringe like twerking.

>>40759729
kanken 1

>>40759741
same
never thought of twerking as cool, its not seductive or enticing just crass

>>40759737
is that KY yours+mine® in the bottles?

Is there a deck for kanken 1?

>>40759813
https://github.com/darkgray1981/kanjiquizbot/blob/master/quizzes/kanken_1k.json

>>40759823
thats just a small sample of kanken 1

>>40759443
for what its worth, i enjoyed the discussion the other day, and i have a relatively high opinion of you, if ive ever offended you, sincere apologies, other than the way you flip out you seem like a decent enough anon and i bear you no ill will
sincerely, anon

>>40759537
would be hotter if kurapika had his balls

>>40759755
maybe kentei 1

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzG85jy_hr4

>>40754526
>>40754360
sad day for djt.
..and every fucking time a japanese learning thread appears on this website

https://youtu.be/3vujsjtrfmE

>>40753126
GODDAMIT OP, I ALREADY BLEW MY LOAD TODAY!!!1!!
time for reps I guess *shrugs*

>>40760029
ill never forget that anons brave sacrifice