I'll say it in red that only the pope can use: >>>/rs/Jesus_was_dead_when_he_was_placed_in_the_tomb >>>/rs/He_was_not_in_the_tomb_three_days_later >>>/rs/No_human_could_have_moved_the_rock_blocking_the_entrance Do you still refuse to believe, Richard Daaawkiiiiins?

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Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:05:13 2010 No.4072358 [Reply] [Original]

I'll say it in red that only the pope can use:

>>>/rs/Jesus_was_dead_when_he_was_placed_in_the_tomb

>>>/rs/He_was_not_in_the_tomb_three_days_later

>>>/rs/No_human_could_have_moved_the_rock_blocking_the_entrance

Do you still refuse to believe, Richard Daaawkiiiiins?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:06:13 2010 No.4072361 File: 417 KB, 808x1024, richard-dawkins.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's useless... It's all useless!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:06:13 2010 No.4072362 http://4chan.org/Religion_is_a_trick_played_on_us_since_ancient_times_by_aliens

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:06:13 2010 No.4072363 http://www.4chan.org/The_stone_was_moved_by_something_not_human.. A donkey, perhaps.

>>	Lady Bernkastel !!FIKs9rk6k0M Tue Jan 5 11:07:13 2010 No.4072368 this again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:07:13 2010 No.4072369 http://boards.4chan.org/jp/Jesus_was_never_sealed_within_the_tomb >>>/rs/You_are_incompetent!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:07:13 2010 No.4072372 You know, Richard Daaawkiiiins doesn't have the same sexiness to it as うしろみやバートラー

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:09:13 2010 No.4072382 I laughed. Thank you OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:10:13 2010 No.4072392 look, It's Trollratzo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:11:13 2010 No.4072393 /r/ing Koizumi Pope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:11:13 2010 No.4072394 None of you fags can say it in gold, this is pointless.

>>	Jesus Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:11:13 2010 No.4072397 File: 142 KB, 478x599, haysuse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>>/rs/The_pope_is_a_liar

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:12:13 2010 No.4072398 http://4chan.org/His_body_was_already_almost_completely_decayed http://4chan.org/3_days_later_nothing_remained_in_the_tomb http://4chan.org/Someone_else_took_his_name

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:13:13 2010 No.4072400 I love you, /jp/.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:14:13 2010 No.4072406

>>4072398

Do you understand how long it takes for the human body to rot adequately for there to be "nothing there"?

Decades if you're in a place with high decomposition! Centuries without! If you die in a desert your bones will rest there for an era beneath the sand!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:16:11 2010 No.4072411 http://boards.4chan.org/People die http://boards.4chan.org/When they are killed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:16:13 2010 No.4072414 >>4072411 Let me try that again http://boards.4chan.org/People_die http://boards.4chan.org/When_they_are_killed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:16:13 2010 No.4072415 There should be a Godwin's Law for greentext. >Implying that we have accurate historical records of the exploits of a bunch of two-thousand year-old savages.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:17:13 2010 No.4072417 >>4072411 >>>/rs/You_are_incompetent!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:17:13 2010 No.4072419 If people built the pyramids, then they could easily move one rock.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:17:13 2010 No.4072423 >>4072406 This is true. You might even find a mummy if you are lucky enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:18:13 2010 No.4072424 >>4072406 deserts usually leave just the bones in a matter of days

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:18:13 2010 No.4072427 >>4072417 >>>/rs/dueeeerp

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:19:13 2010 No.4072428 >>4072406 http://4chan.org/The_corpse_is_a_fake_that_was_named_Jesus http://4chan.org/In_fact_this_Jesus_is_just_a_piece_of_old_rotten_meat! http://4chan.org/The_one_that_lived_never_went_into_the_tomb!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:19:13 2010 No.4072429 >>4072424 Because a low-moisture environment is bad for living tissue. But the bones will have to ERODE before they're gone, and that can take a very long time indeed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:20:13 2010 No.4072433 >>4072419 >>>/rs/Pyramids_were_not_build_by_humans

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:20:13 2010 No.4072434 >>4072406 The remains were consumed and buried by small MAMMALS.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:22:13 2010 No.4072441

>>4072358
http://4chan.org/Jesus_was_not_in_the_tomb_when_it_was_sealed
http://4chan.org/The_corpse_was_not_Jesus
http://4chan.org/A_group_of_humans_such_as_his_disciples_could_easily_organize_themselves_to_remove_
a_rock
http://4chan.org/The_cave_could have concealed small bombs that destroyed the corpse

repeatedgunshots.wav

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:23:13 2010 No.4072445 >>>/rs/Jesus_was_not_the_son_of_god If the rock could not have been moved from blocking the entrance, how was it put there in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:25:13 2010 No.4072450 >>>/rs/This_sentence_is_a_lie. GAME OVER BAD END 57

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:26:13 2010 No.4072454 >>4072445 >>>/rs/We_are_all_chilrend_of_god

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:27:13 2010 No.4072457 >>4072450 Witness the birth of quantum duality!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:28:13 2010 No.4072459 File: 115 KB, 655x387, whentheatheistscry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I lol'd, thanks OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:30:13 2010 No.4072463 >Other than the gospels, what sources are there that Jesus actually existed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:31:13 2010 No.4072468 Everyone using blue text in this thread is doing it wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:32:13 2010 No.4072473 >>4072468 >implying /jp/ has a standard of excellence when it comes to blue texting (or any color texting for that matter)

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:34:13 2010 No.4072480

People who see religion as the major faultline in society are missing the point. I mean, if you honestly believe that strife and war would end if religion ended you're a delusional Marxist. In fact it's Culturally Marxist to think that without religion all of humanity would coalesce into one big utopian world.

And this is coming from an Agnostic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:35:13 2010 No.4072486 Religions should pay taxes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:36:13 2010 No.4072489 >>4072480 Thank you athens. I'm always glad to see you posting. It really brightens my day.

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:37:13 2010 No.4072490 >>4072486 No, taxation except a basic flat rate of income tax shouldn't exist full stop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:38:13 2010 No.4072498 >>4072358 http://4chan.org/Big_old_Appeal_to_Authority

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:38:13 2010 No.4072501 >>4072498 >implying this is a serious debate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:38:13 2010 No.4072503 File: 16 KB, 300x256, 0701-dawkins-laughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072358 >>4072361 Is there a /jp/ related in-joke here I'm not getting, or are you just fagging up the place with shit that belongs in /b/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:39:13 2010 No.4072510 >>4072490 Bend over, you Greek bastard, let the corporations and banks take more of your money while your country burns and loses its first-world status

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:40:13 2010 No.4072513 >>4072490 >>4072480 I don't know why you don't just go on over to /r9k/, I really think you would enjoy it more. Not even an insult or anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:41:13 2010 No.4072517 >>4072463 Not many records left about non-Romans, let alone a random jew who just started christianity. All that we have are references to early christians, in which Jesus is mentioned once or twice.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:41:13 2010 No.4072518

>>4072510
The Banks should have been allowed to fail you socialist nitwit. That is capitalism in action. You have to clear out the deadwood every once in a while - Of course, we live in a fat, flabby society with Cultural Marxists like yourself who believe that a comfortable life is owed them on a platter and who congregate around meaningless abstractions like 'world peace' and 'stopping global warming'.

You are the Mass Man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:41:13 2010 No.4072519 >>4072503 This is pretty much as /jp/ related as it gets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:41:13 2010 No.4072521 Hahaha wow, great thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:42:13 2010 No.4072523 >>4072463 quran

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:43:13 2010 No.4072530 >>4072510 At least it still has one to lose, unlike Amerikkka.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:43:13 2010 No.4072533 >>4072518 Capitalism is dead, and it has been for decades. What "capitalists" the right-wing today are desperately trying to defend is neoliberal corporatism

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:44:13 2010 No.4072535 >>4072533 YES I'M SURE ANY INTERNET POLITICAL DEBATE HAS EVER BEEN WORTH IT ESPECIALLY ON AN UNRELATED BOARD TAKE IT TO /r9k/ YOU FUCKS

>>	mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k Tue Jan 5 11:45:13 2010 No.4072536 You guys need to read 'Jesus the Christ' by James Talmage. That's all I'm gonna say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:45:13 2010 No.4072538 Oh fuck off, /jp/ is fucking shit and you know it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:45:13 2010 No.4072539 And now a good thread went to shit. Thank you athens and all the other serious faggots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:45:13 2010 No.4072542 >>4072536 Yes I'm going to take unsolicited reading advice from some random internet person who doesn't even bother trying to sell the idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:46:13 2010 No.4072543 >>4072519 Yeah, ok, but how? All I see are stupid faggots arguing about religion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:46:13 2010 No.4072546 >>4072536 But Mormons aren't Christians

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:47:13 2010 No.4072549 http://4chan.org/the_entrance_was_never_sealed_with_the_rock

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:47:13 2010 No.4072553 >>4072543 The sin isn't arguing about religion >>>/rs/The_sin_is_arguing_about_religion_without_posting_loli

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:47:13 2010 No.4072555

>>4072533
>Capitalism is dead, and it has been for decades.

Capitalism died here when Thatcherism was reversed. The role of the state has grown ever larger in British life since then.

Furthermore, I like how you ignore all the socialist policies like zero interest loans and subsidies for low income earners to buy houses that in part led to this kind of shit.

I am a follower of the Austrian School, I believe in genuine limited government, asides from a few truly public goods like the Police and the Army.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:48:13 2010 No.4072559 >>4072555 are you deliberately trolling or are you just mentally retarded or a little from both

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:48:13 2010 No.4072560 >>4072555 Also, democracy is anti-capitalist. Democracy is a soft variant of Communism and is doomed to collapse, just as the Soviet Union was doomed to collapse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:49:13 2010 No.4072564 >>4072543 It was all a massive umineko joke before athens came. It was pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:49:13 2010 No.4072567 Home ownership was pushed by everyone, not just socialists. But honestly, who in their right mind would have opposed it? You can't win elections on "You aren't getting a house"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:49:13 2010 No.4072569 >>4072553 I agree. At least religion in that sense would be somewhat /jp/.

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:50:13 2010 No.4072570 >>4072559 Why do leftists believe that anyone who doesn't operate within a paradigm of 'everybody is inherently equal' is crazy? Egalitarian beliefs are unscientific after all. Egalitarianism is a faith based belief.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:51:13 2010 No.4072576 >>4072564 Oh, that clears up why I didn't get it. I haven't played umineko yet, and probably won't for a long time.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:51:13 2010 No.4072577

>>4072555
So I take it you don't like firefighters?
So you like private firefighters?

*RING* Hello? FireDepartment here.

HEY my house is on FIRE GET THE FUCK OVER HERE!

Sure, would you like the express service for 2 thousand bux or the standard service for 599.99?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:52:13 2010 No.4072579 What the hell Athens is in Britain? WHY WHERE

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:52:13 2010 No.4072581

>>4072570
Why do you assume I'm a leftist when in fact I'm just saying this topic is completely inappropriate for the board about Touhous?
Pretend I'm a Leninist or pretend I'm an objectivist or social darwinist for all I care, I'm just saying this place is for eroge and touhou not retarded internet political debates

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:52:13 2010 No.4072582 >>4072570 You create shitfests everywhere you go.... I wish you'd just, stop existing.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:53:13 2010 No.4072586

>>4072517
Actually every reference before the gospels is fraudulent. Added latter by Christians in places that dont even make sense, completely out of character of the original writer.

Not to mention the existence of identical texts which lack said quotes about Jesus and historians who were alive during the time, in the same cities Jesus supposedly had thousands of people gathered in crowds, was eventually crucified, followed by hoards of zombies walking around lacking from their historical accounts. Seriously, you think *someone* would have noticed all those zombies walking around Bethlehem 3 days after some revolutionist was crucified.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:53:13 2010 No.4072587

>>4072577
That's a strawman, there's a difference between believing a fire service, a police service and so on and believing in a giant scheme of wealth redistribution and endless 'social experiments' funded by the taxpayer, international aid and so on.

Furthermore, a private fire service would probably work based on what home insurer you had in a private law society. What you describe is not really reflective of what it would actually be like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:53:13 2010 No.4072588 >>4072579 Are you going to kill him? You better be planning to kill him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:55:13 2010 No.4072593 I can see that newfags are breaking the "don't reply to athens" rule.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 11:55:13 2010 No.4072595

>>4072586
>Actually every reference before the gospels is fraudulent. Added latter by Christians in places that dont even make sense, completely out of character of the original writer.

I've heard that a million time before. Complete bullshit. Not a single serious Classicist agrees with those claims. I remember one guy claimed that Pliny's IXth and Xth books of letters were added later.

>>4072582
The feeling is mutual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:59:13 2010 No.4072618 >>4072595 You're so nice. I bet you're a pillar of the community.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:59:13 2010 No.4072619 LUTHER WAS HERE POPE IS A LOSER

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 11:59:13 2010 No.4072621 /jp/ - Religious Debate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:00:13 2010 No.4072625 >>4072618 To be fair I doubt anyone on /jp/ is a 'pillar of the community'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:01:13 2010 No.4072631 File: 54 KB, 704x480, 123957517248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] From now on, /jp/ is only for atheists! Fuck off realigionfags!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:01:13 2010 No.4072633 >>4072621 Janitors and or mods to a shitty job.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:03:13 2010 No.4072642

>>4072595
Actually some monk admitted to adding one of the couple three references about Jesus to an earlier text. Saying something along the lines "if a lie gets people to believe in Jesus then it's a justified lie". I've actually read said passages and they read something like "praise Jesus who was risen on the third day at that time" which sounds completely out of place when you read it in context.

Also none of these accounts contain any of the zombies. It would be more believable if one of those historians had noted the thousands or millions of zombies walking around. Something like that would have had a huge impact on the people who saw it. Such accounts are completely lacking though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:04:13 2010 No.4072646 >>4072631 That picture is some religion I can care about.. mmm....delicious Rin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:05:13 2010 No.4072649 >>4072631 Atheism leads to slutism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:05:13 2010 No.4072652 >>4072649 Autism leads to athens

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:05:13 2010 No.4072653 >>4072649 And what's wrong with that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:05:13 2010 No.4072654 >>4072621 I find it more that /jp/ is obsessed with written mythologies as a whole. Be they real (Nordic, Christian) or fake (Nasuverse). All religion is rooted in mythology, so we eat it up. 'Epic storytelling' is the core attraction I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:05:13 2010 No.4072655 >>4072649 slutism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:07:13 2010 No.4072663 >>4072654 Yeah, but is this the place for it? And also, don't forget athens fagging up the place with his bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:08:13 2010 No.4072667 >>4072653 Sluts is bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:08:13 2010 No.4072669 Athens brings joy and enlightenment wherever he treads

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:08:13 2010 No.4072670 http://4chan.org/Along_with_the_corpse_a_starving_carnivore_was_sealed_in_the_tomb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:08:13 2010 No.4072671 >>4072652 I lol'd

>>	Cirno !NFiUR85MtI!!UeWfndrL+gG Tue Jan 5 12:08:13 2010 No.4072672 File: 542 KB, 1198x1300, 1261971756300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072358 Fucking Christianity. Spread Cirnoism the true religion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:09:13 2010 No.4072674 >>4072663 IS there a place for it? Not really, unless we want to go to /book/ and start a bible fight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:09:13 2010 No.4072678 >>4072667 Sluts are the sexiest

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:10:13 2010 No.4072679

>>4072642
>Actually some monk admitted to adding one of the couple three references about Jesus to an earlier text.

What earlier text and who was the monk? I mention this because a lot of the people involved in this 'Jesus wasn't real' movement are just bizarre mystics.

btw, watching the News at the moment. It's snowing in areas of Britain at the moment, and people are complaining that the local council aren't taking good enough care of them. I am reminded of what a feminine belief system leftism is, people -literally- expect government to wrap them in cotton wool and take them to work. haha.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:10:13 2010 No.4072680 >>4072672 THE STRONGEST.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:10:13 2010 No.4072682 >>4072672 what a slut.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:11:13 2010 No.4072687 >>4072679 So are you blaming the government or the people?

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:13:13 2010 No.4072695 >>4072687 Both. The Government shouldn't oblige their idiocy, and the people should learn responsibility.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:13:13 2010 No.4072697 >>4072695 >>4072687 >>>/r9k/6952216

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:14:13 2010 No.4072698 >>4072642 Apocryphal texts have been debunked over and over again. You can compare ancient texts (still available) with nowadays translations. The differences are minimal, and in most cases dismissible.

>>	Cirno !NFiUR85MtI!!UeWfndrL+gG Tue Jan 5 12:14:13 2010 No.4072700 File: 219 KB, 700x738, 1260769319671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You idiots discussing religion on my /jp/ should stop. Now let this thread go to page 9...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:15:13 2010 No.4072701 >>4072679 >British libertarian Wow man, that's gotta be tough. At least in America you can PRETEND that libertarianism is relevant politically... and I say this as a libertarian myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:15:13 2010 No.4072702 >responsibility >/jp/ >trollface.jpg

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:16:13 2010 No.4072707 >>4072701 I'm a Conservative Libertarian. I don't believe in democracy either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:17:13 2010 No.4072711 File: 166 KB, 806x1128, 1262250001062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072393 Your wish is granted, my son

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:17:13 2010 No.4072715 Are you actually British Why are you called Athens

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:18:13 2010 No.4072716 File: 103 KB, 330x450, patchu facepalm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072695 >people should learn responsibility People should go out and buy snow plows and plow their own roads of snow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:19:13 2010 No.4072720 File: 87 KB, 496x534, SHODAN_hires.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072707 The best form of government is a perfect, immortal machine with no bias. This machine will have absolute power, and nobody should question its decisions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:19:13 2010 No.4072722 >>4072715 Interesting. Is Hong Meiling reaaallly Chinese?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:19:13 2010 No.4072723 File: 42 KB, 400x500, giantblackshemalecock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >my face when I saw this thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:19:13 2010 No.4072728 >Daily dose shit >107 posts and 7 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view. God damn it /jp/. God fucking damn it.

>>	Cirno !NFiUR85MtI!!UeWfndrL+gG Tue Jan 5 12:20:13 2010 No.4072729 File: 109 KB, 387x600, 1260602487298.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072711 All your tiles belong to mine!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:20:13 2010 No.4072734 File: 54 KB, 600x706, 1259961145324.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072716 When you see how overweight people are, yes.

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:20:13 2010 No.4072735 >>4072716 Buy snow chains. The snowfall isn't that huge.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:20:13 2010 No.4072736

>>4072716
Hes just a NEET. NEETs always have opinions that are "I don't care about anyone else" or "I am an idealist and everyone should be like this." This is because NEETs do not have to sustain themselves, go out in the real world, work hard and make a living.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:21:13 2010 No.4072738 This is different to trolling on /n/. People actually complain and post in between Athens and myself

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:21:13 2010 No.4072741 >>4072358 wait, if no human could have moved the rock blocking the entrance... how the fuck could they have put it back after putting jesus in?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:22:13 2010 No.4072746 >>4072735 You haven't actually driven in it, I take it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:23:13 2010 No.4072756 File: 148 KB, 640x800, 1230987041968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072746 He's not old enough to have a driver's license.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:23:13 2010 No.4072759 >>4072741 The rock was placed there by a team of humans. Soldiers were supposedly left there to protect the grave. Whomever it was disabled the guards and was strong enough to remove the corpse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:23:13 2010 No.4072760 File: 63 KB, 500x345, akagimanga-sample.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072729 No wai

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:24:13 2010 No.4072762

>>4072746
You haven't actually used a well fitting snow chain, I take it.

But don't worry, the government will take care of you, widdle baby.

>>4072736
>This is because NEETs do not have to sustain themselves, go out in the real world, work hard and make a living.

Weird, considering that's exactly what I'm doing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:25:13 2010 No.4072772 >>4072762 Youre not a NEET, mr. A Whyd you have to come back son? We were doing perfectly fine without your trip around here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:25:13 2010 No.4072775 >>4072762 Proof that he is an underage b&.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:25:13 2010 No.4072776 >>4072762 I suppose people will also maintain roads and other forms of government 'baby care' for free and out of the goodness of their hearts? Damn, I wish I was that naive about human nature.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:26:13 2010 No.4072780

>>4072772
Athens is a tripfag of little consequence

It's you
You people that respond to these threads, that feed obvious trolls, that insist that every thread, no matter how shitty, must be responded to for hours

You are the shitposters, you are what is ruining this board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:27:13 2010 No.4072786 >>4072780 Point taken.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:28:13 2010 No.4072789 >>4072780 LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME! I HAVE AN OPINION! I > YOU! EYE AM THE SMARTIEST! Fuck off, will you. We dont need a shitposter to define shit posting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:29:13 2010 No.4072796 >>4072789 And he is completely right though.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:30:13 2010 No.4072801
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>>4072776
>out of the goodness of their hearts?

Wait what? No. That's what leftists believe. Leftists believe that 'race' is a social construct, they believe that people are united more by class than race, and would all work together if they weren't blocked by these 'artificial constructs'.

Most ploughs are operated by private contractors hired out by the local council as is anyway.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:31:13 2010 No.4072806

>>4072679
Eusebius, who probably forged Flavius Josephus.

"That it is necessary sometimes to use falsehood as a medicine for those who need such an approach. [As said in Plato's Laws 663e by the Athenian:] 'And even the lawmaker who is of little use, if even this is not as he considered it, and as just now the application of logic held it, if he dared lie to young men for a good reason, then can't he lie? For falsehood is something even more useful than the above, and sometimes even more able to bring it about that everyone willingly keeps to all justice.' [then by Clinias:] 'Truth is beautiful, stranger, and steadfast. But to persuade people of it is not easy.' You would find many things of this sort being used even in the Hebrew scriptures, such as concerning God being jealous or falling asleep or getting angry or being subject to some other human passions, for the benefit of those who need such an approach."

The doctine that Eusebius believed in is known as "Pious fraud".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:32:13 2010 No.4072810 File: 193 KB, 469x673, 1232982247499.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072789 This is a "you are right" surrender if ever i've seen one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:33:13 2010 No.4072811 Another "I'm cool to be anti-establishment, BAAAWWWWWWW life is unfair to me in some way, I'm an idiot who has no real higher education" kiddie.

>>	Lady Bernkastel !!FIKs9rk6k0M Tue Jan 5 12:33:13 2010 No.4072816 seriously, Umineko is fine but to take it this far, it's not even funny anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:34:13 2010 No.4072826 >>4072397 >>>/rs/Red_only_says_truth!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:36:13 2010 No.4072834 File: 79 KB, 270x279, 1247853732184.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Austrian School Pahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:38:13 2010 No.4072846

>>4072679
>bizarre mystics.

When any reputable historian will tell you, at the very least, that there is no evidence that Jesus ever existed? It's rather common, even among Christians, to debate what parts of Antiquities is a forgery and what parts aren't. Christian scholars will often tell you that Eusebius expanded on part of the text that did originally mention Jesus, he just made it sound more "dramatic" so to speak. However, a majority of scholars think the entire thing is made up. It's only a small minority position, held by bizarre mystics so to speak, that the account is 100% accurate as it's generally presented.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:39:13 2010 No.4072852 >>4072846 The scholarly consensus is that Jesus existed

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:39:13 2010 No.4072854

http://www.4chan.org/Jesus_could_be_something_that_represents_him_such_as_a_rosary_wine_or_those_thi
ngs_you_eat_at_the_church

Adding more

http://www.4chan.org/Jesus_could_have_been_hiding_out_of_his_tomb_and_nobody_would_know_it_until_the
y_opened_the_tomb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:41:13 2010 No.4072857 File: 346 KB, 1200x797, 1262244304701.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072854 fuck, I suck at blue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:42:13 2010 No.4072860 File: 40 KB, 640x480, frustrated.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Because I am

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:42:13 2010 No.4072861 >>4072846 The fun part is that the texts that do mention Jesus do not question his existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:44:13 2010 No.4072870 http://www.4chan.org/The_person_who_found_him_didn't_think_he_was_in_there_and_he_wasn't_the_detecti ve_so_the_red_text_is_not_violated_because_of_knox's_9th IF YOU WANT TO COUNTER IT REPLY WITH THE GOLD TRUTHHHHHHHHHHHH

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:45:13 2010 No.4072875
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>>4072811
>anti-establishment

On the contrary, I am against the liberal establishment.

I am pro inequality and pro hierarchy. Egalitarianism deadens this and creates a standard of mediocrity and stifles brilliance, we need a new class of creative men to lead us forward. A new aristocracy of sorts, we're not going to achieve that with affirmative action and other shit of that variety.

>>4072834
Are you a follower of Paul Krugman?

"As everyone knows! High income tax and regulation is good for the economy!"

American pseudo-liberalism is the cool kid in the high school of ideologies. Your high horse is a dwarf.

>>	Lady Bernkastel !!FIKs9rk6k0M Tue Jan 5 12:46:13 2010 No.4072878 >replying in gold >difficult >imageboard >text >image

>>	Lady Bernkastel !!FIKs9rk6k0M Tue Jan 5 12:47:13 2010 No.4072885 >>4072875 seriously man, it's beginning to be too much to take in for anyone. let it go.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:47:13 2010 No.4072889

>>4072852
Because a majority of those people are Christian. However, if you talk to any of them they will openly admit that there is no credible evidence that he actually existed. My statement is very specific: no solid evidence.

Also sorry for not saging guys I don't usually talk about religion I'm just kind of board right now.

Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ Tue Jan 5 12:48:13 2010 No.4072892

http://4chan.org/somebody_could_have_entered_the_tomb_with_him_and_waited_until_they_put_stone_in_fr
ont_of_it
http://4chan.org/then_they_removed_his_corpse_and_hid_it_and_themself_until_the_grave_was_reopened_a
nd_they_slipped_out_unnoticed
http://4chan.org/then_somebody_else_took_up_Jesus'_name_and_acted_as_if_he_had_been_revived

The fact that most of his desiples did not recognize Jesus by sight after he had been revived supports this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:49:13 2010 No.4072896 Hey Athens-san! Have you read Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson? Is that how you want society to look like? Cause I totally do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:50:13 2010 No.4072900 >>>/rs/Jesus_exists_and_is_the_son_of_God. >>>/rs/You_are_going_to_Hell_for_denying_His_love >>>/rs/Hell_sux

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:51:13 2010 No.4072906

>>4072896
I haven't read it, but there aren't really any fair treatments of Libertarian societies in fiction.

I think this is because most people involved in the arts are leftist liberals. Arts, crafts and journalism are liberal pursuits - Most conservatives have real jobs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:51:13 2010 No.4072908 >You_are_going_to_Hell_for_denying_His_love Ladies(lol) and gentlemen, Christianity.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:52:13 2010 No.4072916

>>4072889
>Because a majority of those people are Christian.

Huh? You for real? Classicists are mostly irreligious though slightly to the right politically, that's because you can't study Ancient History without imparting some salient truths about human nature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:53:13 2010 No.4072918 No one was placed in some fictional tomb. No one checked the fictional tomb three days later. Jesus has never existed, his whole existance is fabricated lies by faggots wanting to copy Egyptians to make their own profitable religion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:53:13 2010 No.4072922 Reported, enjoy your ban.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:54:13 2010 No.4072927 >>4072906 Not even in Atlas Shrugged? Le gasp!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:55:13 2010 No.4072936 This thread is plenty of encouragement for me to go get a thread image flooding script.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:55:13 2010 No.4072937 >>4072900 Protip: You're more than likely going to hell too. Enjoy your fire and eternal damnation. I know I will.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:55:13 2010 No.4072939

>>4072889
Uh, no. There are many non-Christians scholars who agree with this. Anybody denying the existence of the historical Jesus is considered a fringe theorist, at best, and a conspiracy theorist, at worst. There IS a scholarly consensus, and it says Jesus existed. Go to any university in the world and you will be taught the same thing: Jesus was an actual historical figure.
You're just a lunatic who doesn't care what the scholarly field says. Please watch Zeitgeist or whatever bullshit movie you got your ideas from and leave us non-faggots alone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:55:13 2010 No.4072940 >>>/rs/Without_love_truth_cannot_be_seen

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:56:13 2010 No.4072943 >>4072927 I'm actually reading that right now alongside The Fountainhead. But I've only just started. Nevertheless, arts and journalism are leftist in general.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:57:13 2010 No.4072948 >>4072937 The hell of blazing fires is not biblical. Enjoy your dark place devoid of god.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:57:13 2010 No.4072949 >>4072937 Just a joke nerd. I'm actually an Atheist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 12:57:13 2010 No.4072956 >>4072940 Tch. "Love" is just another egalitarian tool to keep the masses oppressing the masters of industry.

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 12:59:13 2010 No.4072970 File: 11 KB, 313x228, Lord of the Rings is perturbed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4072940 Where did you get that? A girl's myspace? LOL.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 13:00:13 2010 No.4072978
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>>4072900
http://4chan.org/It_is_said_that_any_man_is_children_of_god
http://4chan.org/At_any_given_moment_a_man_called_jesus_exist
http://4chan.org/But_that_does_not_prove_he_is_the_same_jesus_of_the_bible
http://4chan.org/Hell_only_exist_in_your_mind

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 13:00:13 2010 No.4072979

>>4072916
I think, as far as history in general is concerned, it might be 50/50. The point is that historians generally agree that the evidence is lacking.

If you find a historian that believes in Jesus, they are likely to tell you from a purely academic standpoint that there isn't any real evidence he ever existed. Circumstantial evidence, maybe, but stuff like Antiquities is generally thought to be fraudulent, even among historians who believe Jesus actually existed.

Hence the existence of a consensus that he actually existed, whether true or false, has no bearing on the reliability of the actual evidence we are discussion in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 13:03:11 2010 No.4072997 Religion is fucking retarded, we already know it's meant to control people, why the fuck do people still follow them?

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 13:03:11 2010 No.4072998

>>4072875
It's just funny that if your laughable economic ideology was implemented, you wouldn't even have a society stable enough for an aristocracy to exist.

Sorry, but the current model is here to stay for the remainder of history, and you're clearly too stupid for the ruling class.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 13:03:40 2010 No.4072995 >>4072979 It's not like scholars know anything

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 13:04:11 2010 No.4073002

Regard Eusebius, Dr. Louth says:

>
More important though, is to notice what kind of material Eusebius inserts into his historical framework. Here he deserts classical precedent and remains essentially a chronicler (or an archivist). Whereas a classical historian told a story, and made up details such as a general's address to his troops on the basis of plausibility (and the historian's view of the character of the individuals involved and the policy they were pursuing), Eusebius hardly ever makes anything up. He quotes and summarizes. In Book 2 and Book 3 it is mainly Josephus, the Great Jewish historian, whose account (mainly from the Jewish War) Eusebius pillages for the first century.

Basically, the similarities between Eusebius and Josephus are because Eusebius relies on Josephus to a large degree as a historical reference. Same way Gibbon's English actually bears curious similarities to Marcellinus' Latin.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 13:05:11 2010 No.4073013

>>4072939

The only history class I had that even talked about Jesus was by a Christian historian who believed that Jesus existed. However he paused in class to inform us that there is no reputable evidence of this fact. He said that the existence of the Christian religion is the best evidence of a historical Jesus and that stuff like this generally doesn't have evidence anyway, so the lack of any evidence doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus never existed.

If your university taught you that there is solid proof of Jesus's existence then you should go back and ask them to refund your money because you got a crappy education from them.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 13:08:40 2010 No.4073013,1 [INTERNAL]

>>4072998
>Sorry, but the current model is here to stay for the remainder of history

Liberals genuinely believe this is the end of History.

They genuinely believe that paradigms don't change.

Tell me, what are you going to do about the increasing racial ghettoization in America? FORCE people to live together? You're already forcing them to go to different schools together.

>you wouldn't even have a society stable enough for an aristocracy to exist

Without massive wealth redistribution an aristocracy wouldn't exist? What about the Roman Republic? What about pretty much every pre-20th century Western society?

I think you forget how recent a development having a Liberal ruling class, that looks to the future and tries to engineer utopia through social 'experiments' is. Virtually all ruling classes throughout history have been conservative, yet you believe your 50 years represents a paradigm to last... forever.

Wow.

>laughable economic ideology

Ever more borrowing and the creation of a two tier system of 'tax payers' and 'tax recipients' where the wealth creating class is getting smaller while the latter is getting bigger is far more shaky and dangerous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 14:04:30 2010 No.4073013,2 >look up thread on archive >find out it turned to shit and wow, he actually bothered ghost replying

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 14:23:05 2010 No.4073013,3 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,1
No, anyone with a functioning brain recognizes that history ended after the second world war. Everything since has been a gigantic circle jerk of non-events.

>Liberal and conservative ruling classes
>wealth creating class
As if such things exist outside your deluded analysis.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Tue Jan 5 15:57:56 2010 No.4073013,4 [INTERNAL]

>that history ended after the second world war

Did the Cold War and all its assorted proxy conflicts not happen in your parralel universe?

How about the rise of the Asian Tigers?

>Liberal and conservative ruling classes
>wealth creating class

"There is always an oligarchy somewhere."

- R. Syme, The Roman Revolution.

Stop thinking of things in terms of secret bunkers and meetings between the Illuminati. The 60s generation and its ideals hold pretty much full sway over the zeitgeist right now, they're the people in power around the world.

As for conservative classes.

As for a wealth creating class, sure there are, there have always been. Wealth is not a pot of gold sitting on a table, it's created - It is knowledge based - Knowing how to turn a cow into leather and beef, that is knowledge that can lead to wealth creation, or on the other side of the technological spectrum - knowing how to refine crude oil.

It makes sense that within this, there are intelligent people who are entrepreneurs and professionals who create or cultivate wealth, and parasites who simply live off of the state.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 17:22:07 2010 No.4073013,5 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,4
Depends on what you mean by the Cold War.

>How about the rise of the Asian Tigers?
You mean more countries adopting western style state-managed capitalist economies, wow that sure proves me...right? I reiterate, not one thing of any real consequence has occurred since the end of world war II.

>secret bunkers and meetings between the Illuminati.
Nice strawman. As if a few individuals could influence history in a meaningful way.

>intelligent people who are entrepreneurs and professionals who create or cultivate wealth, and parasites who simply live off of the state.
So in other words they're too impotent to keep themselves from being exploited by the unwashed masses. Cool sob story.

>>	Its too bad the thread derailed. It could have been a good discussion. Piece-Battler !!/kBhviCJJgf Tue Jan 5 17:34:11 2010 No.4073013,6 Oh wow, this thread. If only I could post my avatar to represent my feelings

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 23:25:02 2010 No.4073013,7 >>4073013,6 It was never a good discussion. Take your meme shit and roleplaying back to ./a/.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 04:32:47 2010 No.4073013,8 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,5
>wow that sure proves me...right?

The emergence of a rival power does not prove you right. The fact countries adopt a market economy doesn't mean there isn't contention. That much is obvious from the world today. Look at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and how it is acting as an Eastern NATO almost. The -only- thing that has preserved peace between the great powers is Nuclear Weapons.

>As if a few individuals could influence history in a meaningful way.

One individual did, he was called Marx. Before Marx there was no 'left and right'.

>they're too impotent to keep themselves from being exploited by the unwashed masses.

It's kind of hard when the state is geared around redistribution to actually change that. Democracies protect the weak without much thought, add Cultural Marxism into the mix and you have a whole new dynamic of 'victim groups', each propounding its own personal holocaust and blaming the dominant majority for its ills.

A country of tribes can never stand united. I predict all out racial warfare in the US within the next century.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 09:00:29 2010 No.4073013,9 [INTERNAL]

Almost like an Eastern NATO...? Overstatement of the century much?
The so called western nations will likely have to tighten their belts as China and co. start approaching our level of consumption; but aside from the inevitable loud whining surrounding that, there will be no real contention other than the kind that exists between say, McDonald's and Burger King.

>Before Marx there was no 'left and right'.
Sure there was. Except then it potentially referred to laissez-faire republicans(liberals) and monarchists respectively.

>blaming the dominant majority for its ills.
Oh lol irony.
>I predict all out racial warfare in the US within the next century.
This has to be trolling.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Wed Jan 6 09:31:46 2010 No.4073013,10 [INTERNAL]

>Almost like an Eastern NATO...? Overstatement of the century much?

Not really. It has the same goals, you really don't understand geopolitics if you think it's merely a 'cooperational' agreement and that it doesn't represent an Eastern Alliance against the ring fence of US allies surrounding China.

>there will be no real contention

So Russia's invasion and effective annexation of South Ossetia doesn't represent a clear illustration of the breakdown of US power in a global sense? Regional players are now acting independently in a way they simply couldn't have before.

You don't seem to understand something like that just wouldn't have been possible for another power 10 years ago.

>Sure there was. Except then it potentially referred to laissez-faire republicans(liberals) and monarchists respectively.

No there wasn't. Conservatism was a synthesis of Old Toryism (traditionalism) and Old Whigs (classic liberalism, progressivism), it had nothing to do with economics on either the Whigs or the Tories side. Fuck they weren't even formalized parties until much later on, and there certainly wasn't any political grouping in the British Parliament in the early to mid 19th century who agreed with ideas of state redistribution.

>Oh lol irony.

Oh lol I have no retort.

>This has to be trolling.

Only something like 45% of US blacks see themselves as American first, Black second. Segregation in a defacto sense is actually increasing (neighborhood demographics, schooling etc).

If you look at the black on white crime figures, it's like a form of low intensity civil strife almost. Thousands are being murdered.

And now you have a Black Nationalist as President. One who agrees with affirmative action.

gg.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 13:06:26 2010 No.4073013,11 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,10
And you clearly don't understand geopolitics if you think that their small-time alliance matches the size and scope of NATO's ability to project power. What do you think would happen if Russia or China proposed a "missile defense system" in Mexico in order to 'protect South America from rouge states'?

>Russia's invasion and effective annexation of South Ossetia
South Ossetia was for all intents and purposes already a Russian territory. They merely defended it against an aggressive invasion by Georgia. Of course you conveniently omitted that part.
>You don't seem to understand something like that just wouldn't have been possible for another power 10 years ago.
Wow, you are wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

>British
Well now you're talking about something else. "Left" and "right" was originally a French convention, and did exist prior to Marx.

>derp helter skelter
Even assuming a worst case scenario, the fact that you seriously think an all out ethnic conflict will occur here makes you look like a tinfoiler.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Wed Jan 6 14:50:34 2010 No.4073013,12 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,11
>What do you think would happen if Russia or China proposed a "missile defense system" in Mexico in order to 'protect South America from rouge states'?

That's just an indication the US is still the predominant power. So what I infer from this is that you believe US power is absolute and rooted in time immaterially? Wow. God damn it you're stupid. Wait for China to start building Aircraft Carriers first.

You still haven't explained to me how you're going to deal with a nation that is increasingly racially fragmented. But hey, I guess if you believe geopolitical paradigms last forever then that's some serious cognitive dissonance to overcome before you can even think of dealing with domestic issues that go against the grain of conventional thinking.

>South Ossetia was for all intents and purposes already a Russian territory.

No it wasn't, they didn't have troops there and that's the bottom line as far as irredentism goes.

>Wow, you are wrong.

That's protecting territorial integrity, not intervention. Two entirely different things.

>Well now you're talking about something else. "Left" and "right" was originally a French convention, and did exist prior to Marx.

Yes, but only in the context that they did in Britain, namely with those on the 'left' being 'radical' in regards to civil libertarianism - It had nothing to do with economics like large scale redistribution, nor were they anti-nationalist in any way, this is where the concept of romantic nationalism springs from after all. Stop grabbing shit off wiki.

>Even assuming a worst case scenario, the fact that you seriously think an all out ethnic conflict will occur here makes you look like a tinfoiler.

Who is going to protect you, your multiracial army?

Multiracial societies need to work very hard to keep peace between the various ethnic groups, you should at least concede that much. And the statistics I cited are not 'conspiratorial'.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 15:42:06 2010 No.4073013,14 >>4073013,11 >helter skelter What is Helter Skelter besides the name of a videogame?

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 17:26:29 2010 No.4073013,15 [INTERNAL]

>Wait for China to start building Aircraft Carriers first.
I thought that nukes would prevent serious conflicts between the powerful nations? Make up your mind.

>You still haven't explained to me how you're going to deal with a nation that is increasingly racially fragmented.
Hurr, I need to explain how to deal with a scenario that is factually false.

>No it wasn't, they didn't have troops there and that's the bottom line as far as irredentism goes.
I guess its irrelevant that most South Ossetians are also Russian citizens eh?
>That's protecting territorial integrity, not intervention. Two entirely different things.
Because its an intervention for Russia to protect Russian citizens from invasions. Right.

>Stop grabbing shit off wiki.
Because it shows you are wrong?
>although the Montagnards proved more willing than other groups to court popular favor in Paris by agreeing to (temporary) economic controls in 1793, and there were indeed economic radicals to the left of the Montagnards who insisted on genuine economic redistribution to achieve the Egalité promised by the revolutionary slogan.

>Multiracial societies need to work very hard to keep peace between the various ethnic groups, you should at least concede that much.
Its easy as long as you have plasma screens, XBAWKS, and throw a good chunk of the population in jail.

athens !SysNpnp3nU Wed Jan 6 17:40:26 2010 No.4073013,16 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,15
>I thought that nukes would prevent serious conflicts between the powerful nations? Make up your mind.

It doesn't prevent.

1) Soft power projection.

2) Proxy wars.

3) A shift in the status-quo.

>Hurr, I need to explain how to deal with a scenario that is factually false.

Why is it false? Jesus look at the way whites have been driven out of basically every major urban center. Deep down people desire homogeneity.

I predict mass riots if Obongo loses in 2012, make no mistake.

>I guess its irrelevant that most South Ossetians are also Russian citizens eh?

It is irrelevant, Russian citizens or not they still lived on land that was under titular Georgian control in both a dejure and defacto sense.

>Because its an intervention for Russia to protect Russian citizens from invasions. Right.

That's exactly what it is, it is compromising the territorial integrity of another sovereign entity, not trying to preserve your own from rebels.

>Its easy as long as you have plasma screens, XBAWKS, and throw a good chunk of the population in jail.

With regards to the former, if History is anything to go by all that will do is engender apathy to the point where people don't give a shit about whether or not their country is in the midst of chaos anymore, in the same way state welfarism and public entertainment in rome bred a class of apathetic fools unwilling to fight for anything.

And as for the jail figures, Obama claims your criminal justice system is racist (protip: it isn't, when you control for prior convictions the rate of conviction between the three major ethnic groups is pretty much the same), and he wants to reduce the number of blacks incarcerated as a result.

Do you realize how insane that is? THAT is what blank slate thinking has done to western liberal democracies. The US seems most afflicted by this disease. It will fall first, maybe Sweden and the Netherlands will fall next.

As for the Montagnards and the radical groupings in the assembly: Note I used the words 'large scale redistribution' - As in, public service, social welfare for all citizens at above subsistence levels and so on was. There was some degree of economic redistribution -considered- but it was never enacted, and the ideas central to conservative thought of service to the state and an elitist oligarchical rule didn't change with the French Revolution in the slightest. All that occurred was social mobility of the leaders of the revolution to the top, who formed a new aristocracy/ruling class centered around Republican principles rather than Monarchical ones.

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Wed Jan 6 17:49:17 2010 No.4073013,17 Also, in regard to the first point. Whoever said that the power dynamic won't shift peacefully? I never claimed that. That doesn't mean that China won't have to increase its capacity to project power in order to achieve such an end though.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 18:22:30 2010 No.4073013,18 [INTERNAL]

I know /jp/ is a pretty boring board, but is this stuff really that interesting? Can't you guys put all this (wasted) effort into something creative? Like, joining a drawfag thread or making a Touhou music remix?

What are these discussions going to accomplish? I mean, I can understand this stuff might have seemed important to you when you were 16, but aren't you guys in your twenties?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 18:30:06 2010 No.4073013,19 >>4073013,18 I don't know. It seems that athens isn't content with defecating in random /jp/ threads, and wants the ghost board experience as well.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 20:02:04 2010 No.4073013,20 [INTERNAL]

>>4073013,18
I'm bored and have nothing better to do, sorry if the millionth "i fucked your're touhou" thread doesn't do it for me. Also I pretty much have zero creative skills so the other stuff is out of the question. At least I kept most of my shit to the ghost board, ja?
If we actually considered this important, we probably wouldn't be on /jp/ in the first place.

>>4073013,16
>I predict mass riots if Obongo loses in 2012, make no mistake.
Meh, I'll let you laugh in my (internet)face if it happens. I doubt he will be voted out though.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 20:08:13 2010 No.4073013,21 [INTERNAL]

>I'll say it in red that only the pope can use:
So from the beginning, we're forced to accept that there is an objective truth and it can be reached by humans through religion?
I don't think I like this game, Pope Beatrice XVI. Circular reasoning only begets more circular reasoning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 20:53:14 2010 No.4073013,22 >>4073013,18 They might be in their twenties, but I guess they are still mentally 16. Or younger.

>>	athens !SysNpnp3nU Wed Jan 6 21:12:58 2010 No.4073013,23 >>4073013,22 No, I am 21, nearly 22. I act it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 23:09:03 2010 No.4073013,24 >>4073013,23 How does it feel knowing you're going to be a 22 year old virgin? Just remember, losing your virginity to a call girl and/or prostitute will make you a perma-failure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 00:03:21 2010 No.4073013,25 >>4073013,23 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >>4073013,24 OH WOW.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 00:45:56 2010 No.4073013,26 >>4073013,23 >No, I am 21, nearly 22. I act it. Ｉｔ　ｃａｒｒｉｅｓ　ｏｕｔ　ａｎｄ　ｉｓ　ｗ．

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 01:26:30 2010 No.4073013,27 >>4073013,23 Being 21.5 myself, I can't help but feel bad when you say you're acting your age.

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