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>>40577115

>>40621396
thanks

>>40620337
Why did you start the thread with a Hard mode screenshot?

>>40626992
Good attempt, try harder though.

Why did last thread get autosaged?

feelsbadman

I'm terrible at video games.

Any good advices for the sixth game? I'm incredibly bad at it and would use some help. Do I just try until I clear it or are there any special technicues I might be missing,

>>40632920
If you're new to Touhou or shmups in general, it's best to use EoSD to get some fundamental knowledge on the genre, as it has no real gimmicks to distract you with. Things like how to handle the three different types of patterns (static, aimed and random), where to focus your vision, etc.

You'll get better the more you play, but being able to know how to experiment and change your approach will go a long way when you're stuck on a particular pattern. Having the basics down will help with that.

Marisa UM normal no miss

:(

>>40633175
Thanks very much for showing the basics. I’ll try to use this when i’ll play the game

>>40632920
Hold shift for focused movement, try to never die with bombs in stock, learn the game.

>>40632920
Save your own replay and watch/study it

Got a few more hard clears since the last time.

Is it cheating to skip the first half of EoSD stage 5?

>>40638908
It's not a glitch, so no.

First attempt at a challenge run. This was a lot more fun than I expected.
>Uploading files from your IP range has been blocked due to abuse.
https://files.catbox.moe/cgbd99.png

>>40639987
Nice job

Is it possible to scorefag with Summer subseason? It reminds me of TD in a way, you get less resources to work with due to lower score but the flexibility of the release gives you a huge safety net so you end up not needing the extra lives.

Does the vertical safe spot in Xu Fu's Dimension only work with youkai? Trying to do it with Youmu and I keep dying to the blue amulets even though I'm supposed to be in the correct position.

>>40644778
No, it works with everyone. You're likely getting tripped up by the different hitboxes of characters, if you've cleared it with ones like Reimu/Yukari before who have more breathing room.

>>40644900
Are you sure? I'm aware Reimu and Yukari have a smaller hitbox and you can just stay at the bottom of the screen with no need to adjust your position, but I just tried it with every character and it worked with all of them except solo Marisa, Sakuya and Youmu.

>>40645214
NTA but it does work with solo Sakuya, although it's quite precise. I eventually had to find a more elaborate setup but it can be done very consistently. I haven't done it with Youmu or Marisa because I don't play either of those shot types but I can try it later.

>>40645214
I got my Marisa and Sakuya clears a few days ago so I can say it's possible, but the position is very tight and you need pretty precise movement. I'd suggest trying to get the feel for it in spell pracice. The spell card has this circle aura around the area that slowly shrinks itself, you can use its initial size as a reference for where the safespot is.

>>40645690
>>40645918
Can you post a screenshot at the correct position? I've always thought you were fine if you aligned yourself to the %. And this seems to work fine with all the other characters for me so I'm not too sure what I'm doing wrong here.

Fucking finally, jesus christ
Entered Byakuren with 6 lives and 2 bombs lol
So glad to be done with this UFO shit (for now)

>>40646154
Something like this I guess. What I do is hug the bottom of the screen before the spell starts and then do a single tap and hope it hits the sweet spot. If it fails I just adjust the "strength" of the tap on the next attempt, meaning how long I hold the key for before releasing.

>>40646270
Congrats. How long did it take you? I've been doing a hard UFO run every once in a while, but so far I haven't made past Ichirin in one continue. I fear I'll need at least a week or more if I commit to clearing it.

>>40646304
>What I do is hug the bottom of the screen before the spell starts and then do a single tap and hope it hits the sweet spot.
I do this too, problem is I can't tell if I'm moving too little or too much. Anyway, thanks, I'll use your picture for reference and see if I can figure it out.

Yeah, turns out I wasn't making big enough of a tap. Problem solved, thanks for the help.

Actually, you know what, I wasn't imagining things. Check this out: https://files.catbox.moe/8xsp0a.rpy

I wonder if these blue amulets are like familiars and can only hurt humans (except Reimu)? Never heard of this.

>>40646400
>Congrats. How long did it take you?
Thanks! I've been playing it on and off for about a week, but I started only tryharding this game around 5 days ago playing roughly 3 hours a day. It wouldn't have taken as long if I didn't mess around with other shot types, so if you plan on doing this yourself I would advice just sticking with one shot (duh)
>I fear I'll need at least a week or more if I commit to clearing it
UFO is such a route-heavy game compared to any other so commitment is required for sure
>but so far I haven't made past Ichirin in one continue
She fucked me over a lot too, but something that helped me a lot against her non-spells, first spell and final spell is to stay still and not panic. Lasers are spooky

Does anyone know how to reduce input lag with the dosbox-x emulator?

>>40646270
Is it true that UFO Hard is more difficult than most Lunatics?

>>40646578
Again, Youkai and Humans have different hitboxes so being in the right position with Yuyu doesn't mean you aren't going to die if you stop holding Shift. And the setup with humans is much more precise. So it's none of that, it is still just human error.
https://files.catbox.moe/txsm78.mp4

>>40647345
Wait, you're telling me the hitboxes are different for the two members of a team? What the fuck.

>>40647284
Not sure about most since I've only cleared 5 games on Lunatic, but definitely harder than PCB and UM for me at least

Is Xu Fu even doable without the safespot? Or was it designed with the safespot in mind?

>>40647718
It's quite doable without safespot, yes.

>>40647394
The main thing is that humans can get killed by the familiars spawning bullets at the bottom of the screen.

>>40647718
No vertical timeout:
http://replay.lunarcast.net/replay/th8_ud4154.rpy

The amulets are static and have a certain rhythm to them. It's a little safer on the right side, since the blue amulets are more dense on the left.

>>40647718
This is how it's intended to be played. https://youtu.be/es3O51bUqdE?t=630

I'm about to start playing VD (because I am bent on playing all non-fighters in numerical order) which I've heard is the worst controlling game by far because of the teleport controls. Is there a mod that gives the teleport its dedicated button?

is Kagome Kagome, aimed or RNG? I typically don't have trouble with this spell but it seems very inconsistent and starting from a different place on the screen doesn't seem to be affecting it

>>40655000
I'm not sure whether there's a mod, but the teleport controls are really not as poor as some people say. It's just that their exact mechanics aren't necessarily intuitive, and if you don't know them, then failed teleports can get very frustrating, very fast. See >>24249533 for the exact details. Basically, you have to STOP moving, double-tap, then HOLD the direction you want to go for a bit, all very deliberately. Once you understand that, at least in my opinion, the controls stop being an issue whatsoever.

>>40656980
Same anon you replied to and yeah, after getting Junko and Okina it kind of clicked. Still very awkward and I've still died many times to missed inputs, but it's not unplayably bad and the game overall has been more fun than the generic trainwreck that everyone hyped it up to be. Can't help but to wonder why the fuck ZUN didn't just assign the action to the C key though.

>>40646653
The only way to play with low input lag is by using an emulator that supports exclusive fullscreen mode, which means it's got direct access to the monitor while skipping the desktop window manager.
Dosbox-x does not support this, so you should use nekoproject 21/W instead.

>>40656633
The bubbles cycle through this set of patterns:
(counting bubbles)
1,2: random
3,4: aimed
5: random
6: aimed
start from 1 again.

I personally find the spellcard easiest when I dont limit myself to the bottom of the screen, and instead try to stay higher up on the screen to deal more damage by staying directly below Flandre.

>>40658666
okay, sounds helpful but what about the green bullets?

>>40658834
NTA but the yellow bubbles push away green bullets like ripples in water. The actual pattern they spawn in and the way they react to yellow bubbles is static so it's mainly a matter of reading ahead how the yellow bubbles will affect them. You *can* get fucked by RNG if you get unlucky with the yellow bubbles and have them send the tight intersections of green bullets toward you but it's generally a consistent spell once you learn it.

Is there any strategy for StB EX-8 or is it just getting good and praying you don't get walled?

>>40657826
I'll look into it, thanks!

It wasn't bad.

>>40659073
>You *can* get fucked by RNG if you get unlucky with the yellow bubbles and have them send the tight intersections of green bullets toward you but it's generally a consistent spell once you learn it.
Like I said before, it wasn't a spell I really had trouble with but I still like understanding the math behind it. Thanks

I did it, /jp/, I cleared StB. Pretty happy about this, when I first started playing this game it seemed like a distant, unattainable dream.

>>40659888
You can get it with everything set up already if you grab the touhou98 experience pack from nyaa.

How does wave 2 of Impossible Danmaku Barrier work? Is there a consistent setup to find the safespot or do you just have to luck it out?

How the fuck did ZUN manage to slip the "bomb during extra timeout spell to make the boss vulnerable" bug in two games in a row?

>>40667416
does this prove that ZUN is forever being an incompetent programmer? that bug is on the same tier as MoF MarisaB. you would have thought ten years later (MoF and HSiFS were released ten years apart) he would have learned to not make such a big fuck up but no. there's even an entire website about glitches in the PC-98 era but I don't remember it's name

>>40662398
I got it and it seems to be working smoothly
>little to no input delay
>improved graphics
>english patch
Thanks for spoonfeeding me

Why haven't you timed out VoWG?

>>40668553
not really into spell timeouts
it's more fun to capture spells

>>40667469
>there's even an entire website about glitches in the PC-98 era but I don't remember
It's the blog by the guy who's disassembling every game and writting down the source code, while posting a few patches which solve some uncommon crashes.
http://rec98.nmlgc.net/blog

>>40668419
No worries, feel free to post if you run into any trouble so I can look into it.

>>40668553
I'm not talented.

>>40668553
I already did with 90 FPS

>>40668998
>http://rec98.nmlgc.net/blog
yeah I think that's the one
thanks

So, 9-7 is the hardest scene in DS, right? There isn't anything in this game more difficult than this, right? Right?

Came back 2 tooHoo after a year and I cant even clear TD normal. Marisa is some expert type of torture as if you forget to tap shift for a second you fly through 1/4 of the screen. I like touhou but by god is this game wrecking me up. I am one of the people who live in a constant state of trance/brain fog, and being concentrated for 30 minutes straight it very hard for me.
Why I had to be born a vegetable.

>>40679763
Play extras, you only need to concentrate for 10 minutes instead of 30.

>>40679763
Play the photo games.

Feels nice when you find a way to cheese stuff.

>>40679843
Actually I do play them. Currently I have cleared 3 extras and a few I was close to beating, even though I still have some games I couldnt beat on normal. It does feel nice when you have no "easy but you cant just sleep" phase of normal 1CCs. However, it becomes a torture if this particular game has no spell practice.
>>40679894
I tried. The difficulty even on starter levels is beyond insane just because of the game gimmick and controls. I would rather collect fucking UFOs (worst mainline gimmick by far) then see this horror ever again. ISC was golden for me because it is also tight packed but you actually need to just shoot and survive. Sad that it gets almost 0 recognition.

>>40679763
>>40680022
Download thprac and play each individual nonspell and spell like its own ISC scene
https://github.com/touhouworldcup/thprac

>>40680135
Thanks anon, I will try to set it up tomorrow.

>>40680022
>The difficulty even on starter levels is beyond insane just because of the game gimmick and controls.
You barely need to know the controls to clear the first 4 or 5 levels. It just sounds like you haven't given the games a fair chance.

>watch so-called "superplayer" scoring TEoSD
>he dies to trivial shit on stage 3
>close tab
And these people are supposed to be more skilled and talented than LNB players? Scorefags are delusional.

>>40632920
What I did was continue and bomb spam to get through the entire game so that you can unlock practice mode and then play each stage that you're having problems with over and over until you can consistently beat it with minimal deaths.

>>40685591
This is a problem with the games not with the players.

>>40685591
who was the player and what exact easy pattern did they die on

namedrop please

>>40685591
Everyone can die to dumb shit, especially if they're overconfident. I'm going to assume it's more a matter of negligence than lack of skill if you don't give more info.

>>40685591
Isn't part of scorefagging killing yourself intentionally so you get your bombs back at specific points of the game to score more with?

>>40676224
Almost done with DS and I'm happy to report that, yes, in case anyone else was wondering, 9-7 is the hardest scene in the game. Although I'm not sure yet if that's the case with Hatate.

>>40698529
I doubt they were talking about an intentional death

unless...

Any good fangames release lately? Not interested in the shmup ones, talking more generally. Last good one I remember playing through was the yuuka platformer.

>>40685591
You're a faggot but you reminded me that this run exists, which you may appreciate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwWr-1L-QNU

EoSD is pretty good when you ignore the shitty bomb + star item bug that score play typically abuses.

>>40706141
Sorry, I don't watch e-celebs.

>>40706269
>e-celebs
All superplayers with a handful of exceptions are complete nobodies but even the more well known ones can hardly be called e-celebs because Touhou just isn't mainstream enough to make people famous

>>40706502
probably the only people who could be considered as e-celebs in the touhou community are people who dont even do scoring but rather LNNNNN all 18 touhou games, since thats all the normies care about

actual score players go largely unnoticed with low viewcounts

>>40706502
>implying this shit play is a superplayer

>>40706789
He's literally the western WR holder for that game.

>>40707277
>western WR

kek

>>40707277
How can it be the World Record if it's western only?

Finally 1CCd this game with an honest character. What character I should try next? I tried Reisen and reached Eiki without issues and then she just wiped off my continues

>>40707539
Lyrica is pretty fun.

>>40706789
It's by far the highest scoring no miss no bomb run of EoSD out there. It's a low competition category, but it's mildly interesting for those who don't want to see "dying to trivial shit on stage 3".

>>40707277
You're better off saying he set multiple WRs in the past and currently holds the #3 high score instead of making the stupid distinction between the "west" and the rest of the world.

>>40706696
There are some pretty (in)famous score players, to be honest. Some of which are western, and some of which are Japanese/Chinese.

If you consider e-celeb within the Touhou community itself, there's some really well known figures, except most of them for the wrong reasons (replay hiding, elitism, toxicity etc).

>>40710555
like who
besides lyx

When will ZUN stop being a big gay and start doing midboss spell cards again?

>>40711158
Wait, that can't be righ-
>go and check the latest games
>the last time we had a midboss spell card was fucking lily white in 16
What the fuck

>>40710677
Let/pingval should ring a bell even outside of Touhou, considering he speedran some games.

Within Touhou, izumico is well known for replay hiding and yu-suke is known because there's a lot of yu-suke wank. Everyone who is into Touhou should also know the name KG. Mino is well known in the western community. I think anyone knows him to some extent. As for elitist players, I can't really speak for the eastern communities but I think for western ones, everyone who's been around probably knows that Morth and Sakurei are the biggest offenders. Although the latter lost relevance a long time ago, so maybe the name doesn't ring a bell for newer players anymore.

>>40711303
I definitely have not been "around", but I've incidentally interacted with Morth directly a little bit recently. I taught him several things, and he accepted my ideas and advice with humility, so I'm surprised to hear he's a faggot elsewhere.

>>40711303
What's wrong with Sakurei?

>>40711665
Sakurei is so toxic and condescending that he is capable of insulting other people's runs and skillsets without even meaning to. It's astonishing how he is capable of knowing the difficult of things he hasn't done, particularly when his expertise is a category no one besides him has touched since 2009. I don't know if he has a big head because he has WR in an unplayed category or if he was always like this but it's insufferable.

Please tell me I'm not the only one who finds DS EX-5 stupidly hard with Aya. It's the last scene left to clear with her, but the worst part is, unlike the other hard scenes in this game it's not at all fun to play.

>>40712496
Go back to discord

UM Extra is so much fun, I love it.

>>40723592
I don't play games newer than GFW.

>>40723614
Then you play nothing

At what point did you start aiming for your first Lunatic clear?

>>40736786
After doing a bunch of Extra challenge runs. Although that's mostly because I didn't really want to play Lunatic before, and even now I still don't really want to play Lunatic. I just don't really like Lunatic so I ended up postponing my first (mainline) clear much more than most people would have.

>>40736786
After a few months of playing hard mode on various games. In hindsight, I could've directly jumped into it after getting my first few hard clears. HSiFS lunatic isn't a huge jump in difficulty over hard.

i hope we'll eventually get an official game where you fight the non-game characters (like Toyohime, Yorihime, Miyoi etc.)

>>40712496
What is this unplayed catagory anon?

What does the E1 and E2 mean in the UM chart? I just 1cced that game with Reimu and I don't know which square to fill

>>40740960
Either if you brought the blank card (ending 2) or not (ending 1). Iirc you can't buy blank card in the first run, so E1.

>>40736786
it took me about 3 or 4 months to get my first Lunatic clear (not counting a 1.5/2 months period in which I stopped playing) I had to really push myself to get it. It doesn't matter what game it is, Lunatic is always a big step up from Hard with a couple exceptions

Playin' some EoSD again after another break. My second try, I made it to Sakuya despite being extremely sloppy. I'll keep playing all night, so hopefully I'll be able to post my first 1CC. I can do it. I know I can. I just have to accept bombing a few times on Patche's last two spells and maybe bomb on Meiling's last spell. If I can do that, my main obstacle is the stage portion of stage. I end up moving too much and the patterns get all fucked up. I should have the resources to trivialize Remilia.

>>40740960
UM has 2 endings for 1ccs. The first is the normal one, and the 2nd is the hidden one hinted in Reimu's ending. You get it by taking Chimata's blank card (unlocked after your first 1cc) right before stage 6.

>>40741076
Think you can get the 1cc before August 11th?
EoSD's 20th anniversary, makes for a good goal methinks.
Give Remi the thwack she deserves!

>>40742141
Definitely, but I'm pretty busy for the next few days. If I just don't get too drunk, it'll be done.

>>40742141
>EoSD's 20th anniversary

Dying with massive bomb stocks is my greatest weakness.

>>40745132
not only was it futa but the artist did a nude version and couldn't be assed to draw nipples even though it's a fucking R-18 image

>>40620337
woah are u playing on lunatic or with ultra patch?

>>40745303
whats wrong with futa?

>>40745437
Holy fucking shit I posted that on the wrong thread

>>40745532
ah no problem XD

I spent multiple days on this, shit's so hard

>>40746227
It's not that hard if you know all the tricks. In fact, it's one of the easiest touhou games when you do.

>>40746227
>>40746826
Still, don't take that as me diminishing your accomplishment. Getting to the point in which you're able to clear it does take a lot of effort, so congrats.

>>40736786
played touhou for the first time almost 3 months ago. got my first ever normal 1cc on eosd about 2 weeks after, 1ccd every game on normal about 2 weeks ago, started working on lunatic UM 3 days ago and got it today

>>40711360
>I interacted with this person and they seemed nice
>sad to hear from an anonymous, shitposting on the internet I'm supposed to hate them, but can't be helped
The incarnation of discord kiddy.

>>40746826
>>40746840
yeah I'm getting the hang of it now, still need to try the hell route though

>>40749184
Yeah, I don't usually come to this board because I think you're all a bunch of fat, disgusting, unshowered weeaboo dorks and I don't want your rancid weeb stench all over my soul, but I figured this might be the place to ask and made the thread before I realized you already had 10 Touhou threads,

I know, anon. It tells you that before you start the game. I can read the menu. But I'm beating Easy pretty rapidly, and I feel like I'm accomplishing something. I tried Hard first and was getting somewhere after many tries, but Easy gives me a sense of accomplishment much quicker, so I switched to that; I'm just trying to get my dopamine firing a little more so I can force my brain to keep playing the game (or vice-versa).

>>40634878
based

>>40746227
>>40749033
also based, but only the last boss is "hard". probably one of the easiest touhous to 1cc

>>40749255
Rude
>I tried Hard first and was getting somewhere after many tries
Good.
>but Easy gives me a sense of accomplishment much quicker, so I switched to that
It's fine if beating Easy is all you want, otherwise it's kinda steep compared to dropping to Normal.
>>40748498
>How long did it take you to get a 1cc on Hard or Lunatic on Touhou 6? Or any other Touhou games?
I don't really remember. It took me many months to get a 1cc in Normal when I was a beginner, but it wasn't as long in Hard when I already got the basics down.
>What should I be doing when I practice?
Personally I fire up the last unlocked stage in practice mode as a warmup before 1cc attempts. Also replays are your friend, they help you analyze bullet patterns and find flaws in your previous strategies as a passive observer. For more basic stuff, refer to this image >>40633175

>>40748790
Who are you quoting.

Damn... One of the reasons why I started liking Marisa and always played as her was her high damage, but now I played UM after taking a long break from Touhou and her damage seems pretty mediocre. It really feels like she's the worst character to pick in that game by far. Why did ZUN do it?

>>40750060
He doesn't want to seem biased

How do you do this?

>>40750278
Dunno if the [Deleted] means you already did it, but in general:
From waves 1 through 7 you can hug the bottom and charge the camera the entire time while you move from side to side, Ran pretty much won't ever hit you so you just have to worry about the butterflies and use the camera shot to cut back and start moving in the other direction
Last wave is kind of a coinflip if you decide to charge the camera all the way through, sometimes she hits you and sometimes she doesn't. I would still take the coinflip though, it's a really easy route so you won't lose much time by doing it till it works out

>>40750550
Yeah, I finally finished StB. I still leaving with a bad taste because that spell is bullshit, I daresay. Especially because of the off-screen butterflies.

>>40749502
Just tried a Normal run, and the main difference I noticed was that you can't ignore the Stage 2 midboss' second attack by just cheaply sitting next to her away from the bullets (although I remember this from the last time I played the game), which got me killed twice in quick succession. Then I died a stupid death at the very beginning of Stage 3 by forgetting to press Shift when I should've and running into a bullet (playing as Marissa with Illusion Laser).
>It's fine if beating Easy is all you want, otherwise it's kinda steep compared to dropping to Normal.
Normal really doesn't seem that much harder. I died, but it was more of a YASD than because the situation was above my skill level. I may or may not just keep playing normal. Standing next to the ice bitch to avoid her attacks is a cheap way to play, anyway.
>I don't really remember. It took me many months to get a 1cc in Normal when I was a beginner, but it wasn't as long in Hard when I already got the basics down.
Damn. Well, I do have some experience playing DDP. Never 1cc'd it, but I could pretty consistently get to level three without dying.
I can play the first two stages on TH6 with my brain turned off, and then I need to pay attention on the third or I'll die (I die or use a bomb about every other time), and then I get butchered through the fourth unless I spam bombs everywhere.
I'll try to get through stage four on Normal and see how much more difficult it is.

>>40750691
Yeah, that one is probably the most bullshit scene in StB apart from you know what.

>>40750713
Clear the game on Normal with continues, then you'll unlock all the stages in practice mode.

>>40750272
Yeah, this.

>>40752839
soul

>>40750713
if you are getting butchered by the fourth stage, you probably don't know how to dodge aimed bullets, since that's most of the stage. you should watch gameplay of someone playing it to learn to recognise them and how to dodge them because it's one of the most essential skills in every touhou game. this guy actually does a pretty good job of explaining how to deal with the aimed bullets, if you can tolerate his horrible mic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ePEShN0GN4

Wonder, I supposedly did a PCB ExNB run, but used border breaks manually. Does that still counting as NB?

>>40757474
technically yes, it is still considered a No Bomb clear. However, if you are doing a perfect clear, you need to restrict yourself from using Borders. Good job btw

>>40757474
Yes, No border breaks is a separate restriction unique to the game. So if you did a perfect run it'd be an ExNNN or ExNMNBNBB.

>>40757474
nbb is a separate category so yes if you did not bomb then you literally did a nb run

>>40757509
>>40757524
>>40757529
OK, thanks for clarify.

>>40753858
Damn. I had no idea you could just lightly tap left or right a few times and dodge all of the aimed bullets being thrown at you. That'll definitely help with one of my problem parts in the fourth.

My real issue is that I'm ass at weaving through dense bullet curtains, though, and I'm really stingy with my bombs (ideally, I'd like to not have to use any, and I always tell myself "I can dodge this one" even when I can't).

>>40757474
That's cool, I hope to do a nb run of an extra stage one day

>>40759817
yeah, this method of dodging aimed bullets is a complete game changer. before long you will be able to insantly recognise aimed bullets from the way they move/form patterns, even in games you haven't played before.

as someone who is absolutely not stingy with bombs, i'm not sure how to help you with that. what i did when i was going for my first normal 1cc was to make a mental list of attacks i die to more than like 20% of the time. these attacks i would simply bomb without even trying to dodge them. meiling's last two spells, patchouli's spells, sakuya's spells and most of remilia's spells were just instant bomb for me, among others. attacks like perfect freeze, patchouli's 2nd non and remilia's first spell where i would die less often i would try to dodge, but be ready to bomb at even the slightest hint of danger.

i would also say that i highly recommend MarisaB rather than ReimuB. her bomb will just end any spell card, and maybe having a much stronger bomb will give you more incentive to use it.

>>40759817
It might be a bit too early for you but I would suggest playing the first two scene games (StB (9.5) and DS (12.5)) as they greatly improved ability to read different types of bullet patterns as well as making me much more comfortable with moving around on the whole screen instead of staying in the bottom third at all times. And if nothing else they are fun ways to round off generations of games if you are playing through the windows games in order.

Also while it might be tempting to skip PoFV (9), at least give it a shot, because while it uses a very different formula and doesn't really have spell cards in the traditional sense it is a great way to practice dense, random bullet spam.

>>40759817
There's nothing wrong with being stingy with bombs, it makes getting 1ccs harder but it helps improve your dodging skills more quickly than if you simply skipped all the hard spells.
Do try using them more sparingly once in a while though, when going for a serious 1cc run.

Holy fuck I finally stopped choking during Pristine Beat and got the ExNN
The final part of the battle gets me absurdly tense so I'm glad it's finally over

>>40764274
aw shit nice job anon
I should really go for some more ExNNs aside from SA (baby's first ExNN)

>>40761031
I should reread my posts before posting them, instead of a day after.
I meant "you should try using them less sparingly", just to be clear.

TD is filtering me
I thought this was supposed to be an easy game

>>40764641
Press C to manually activate trance.

>>40764641
It's easy in terms of patterns, but the game doesn't drown you in resources so coupled with 1 power loss on death it makes mistakes very punishing. If you can make it to stage 5 without a miss you should be in the clear.

>>40765236
the game absolutely does drown you in resources though, you easily have enough to bomb spam through almost every boss. mistakes are punishing, but since you can be invincible forever, there isn't much you can make mistakes on

Getting stonewalled by Mokou. IN extra was supposed to be easy, but it's the only game from 4 to 12 that I haven't been able to extra clear with any character.

Man, Kanako is kind of a joke on Lunatic
Haven't played MoF in a while and got to her with 0 lives where I died to her final

Best character for first SA 1CC? I heard Aya is OP and I managed Stage five with her at first try.

>>40767353
I find Yukari to be the easiest due to having warp (although very situational) and a relatively easy Satori. Helps having good damage too

>>40767353
ReimuC (Aya) is the best for 1cc and the others aren't even close. It's probably the biggest shot type imbalance in any of the main windows games. Having a bomb that does enough damage to end any attack in a game where you can use 5/6 bombs per boss without losing a life is just not something any other shot can compete with.

>>40767937
More like bomb type

>>40767233
Her 8th non and spell are the huge difficulty spike, the rest of the fight is manageable and her survival is one of the easiest in the series. Don't feel bad about bombing Keine's bullshit and keep practicing.

>>40768374
>Don't feel bad about bombing Keine's bullshit
Is it just me or Keine is the hardest mid boss so far? Her second spell is the only one I can capture consistently and even then I still bomb it more than half if the time because its way too risky not to. I havent played all the games yet so my opinion isnt that valid.

>>40768374
I've only made it to her 8th card once. Most of the cards before that are already a nightmare. If her survival card is really easy like Nue's, then the clear might not be too hard in the end.
>>40768878
I've played up to LoLK, and Keine is still the hardest and least fun extra mid boss for me. Chen's first card can still sometimes catch me off guard, and the glowing orb fight in LLS extra is often annoying, but they can be both dealt with at most a single bomb. Keine on the other hand is a guaranteed 2 bomb tax.

>>40769250
>Keine on the other hand is a guaranteed 2 bomb tax.
Dont forget that last fairy before Mokou

>>40769307
>he doesn't know

>>40768878
It's hard to say because difficulty relative to other games often changes depending on which kind of run you are aiming for. At least from my experience I can say that, with a bit of practice, Keine becomes one of the single most consistent EX midbosses in the series if you are aiming for a perfect, probably only next to Kanako.

>>40769250
The only advice I can give you is to get the hang of the spells in spell practice. Her 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th spells are free once you understand them. 1st, 6th and 7th can be a bit tricky even with practice and they can catch you off guard so be prepared to bomb. 8th is the big filter, and is mostly hardcore streaming, but it's very demanding so if you can clear with 2 bombs used or less I consider it a success. Her survival is fairly easy once you practice it a bit, though the 2nd phase can trip you up if you don't move properly. Her final card is going to ruin your run if you don't know what to expect, but once your figure out the trick it becomes fairly simple.

>>40769363
I've never once touched spell practice before. After trying out her 2nd card a few times in it just now, it feels really easy once you get how it's supposed to be done. If this is the secret to learning Mokou's spell cards and beating her I'll take it, even if it feels a bit like cheating.

>>40769334
Doesnt know WHAT?

>>40768374
>>40768878
>>40768878
>>40769250
She becomes one of the easiest when you realize the non-aimed bullets in her first and third spells are static. You definitely should not be bombing those. For the first spell, start at the y in "Enemy" at the bottom of the screen and stream left after the blue bullets pass you, for the second wave start at the 妖 in the human-youkai meter and do the same but to the right, rinse and repeat. This allows you to capture the spell without dodging a single bullet. For the third spell, just ignore the aimed bullets and stream to one side, and move up when there's a bullet in your way.

>>40767348
This took sooo long, ReimuA master race!

gonna start grinding lls extra, wish me luck

>>40770542
Good luck, anon. You're in for a fun time. Just don't try to time out anything.

>>40770542
good luck anon, Gengetu's final pattern can be a bit hard so i recommend sitting in the corner and just timing it out

>>40769730

>>40771465
cheater

delete this

I'm drunk as fuck but got farther on Flan's fight than I ever have before. I guess alcohol really does help with touhou.

Is Marisa the worse character in TD? Asking because I'm trying to 1CC with her now after I managed to do with Leimu

>>40779180
i think sanae is the worst from what i've heard, haven't tried her though. Marisa is the character i got my first normal 1cc with in that game and i'm pretty sure her and youmu are considered the best

>>40779180
Press C to manually activate trance.

Does Boundary of Life And Death have a safespot, or did I just SERIOUSLY luck out there?
I sat like a deer in headlights for the last 10 seconds or so and somehow fucking captured the spell lmao.
Also does anyone else in the series stop the clock when you try bombing their last survival? It's a dick move waiting out bombs/barriers but you gotta respect the commitment for making you deal with her shit.

>>40781363
>Does Boundary of Life And Death have a safespot
It's random, but it usually does have one somewhere if you manipulate it a bit. Her movement makes any change of a safespot go away, but for some reason, she stops moving if she follows you to the sides of the screen. If you're in a position where she wants to follow you but can't, she'll just stop, unlike most attacks where the boss will just bounce in the opposite direction if it's the only choice.

>>40781363
>Also does anyone else in the series stop the clock when you try bombing their last survival? It's a dick move waiting out bombs/barriers but you gotta respect the commitment for making you deal with her shit.
And Yukarifags said she is holding back and is actually half asleep

>>40781430
Huh, I figured I was closer to the middle than I actually was, and she did seem to be sitting still at the end.
Very lucky indeed

Got back to it after a few years.
Beat HSiFS with Reimu and Marisa... what is up with Aya?
Is Aya literally the worst character? Speed is not power. I can barely make it to stage 3 without hitting a stray bullet from leftover fairies or using a bomb on a boss because the spell is taking way too long to beat.

>>40782111
She's way too slippery for my taste, so she's my least favourite character of the 4. Her only real saving grace is that her bomb shits damage and can melt most patterns if you place it well. From what I remember she's also the character that best fits the playstyle fall subseason promotes, so she's pretty good with that and rather lackluster with the other subseasons.

>>40782501
>the character that best fits the playstyle fall subseason promotes
What playstyle is that? Zipping all over the place when you should be at the lower 1/4th of the screen?
Because fall is what I'm using and holy shit you can't even focus a big fairy without the next wave coming in to say waddup.
Maybe I'm not releasing the season enough.

>>40782111
Cirno's the worst, her damage is worst than early windows reimu A

>>40782719
>Zipping all over the place
Basically this, spam releases and fly around collecting bullets. Ideally you'll absorb enough to get a level 1 release ready, and you can release again to repeat the process. Keep a steady chain of releases going and you'll be basically invincible for most of the run, with the only real danger being you running into enemy hitboxes or getting caught out without a release ready, in which case you can bomb as a safety net. Aya shines at this because you can use her speed to your advantage to delete more bullets, of course with the downside of her being a bit harder to control and it being easier to run into enemies.

I hated fall in the past because I was using it as just a ghetto winter release, which made it feel really underwhelming. Using it in the cheesiest way imaginable is actually really fun and makes the subseason play out very differently compared to the others.

>>40782877
Wow. Alright then duly noted. I'll aim for more releases next run thanks. I was using it like winter too.

>feather dustered my TCBOO
>called by my DPE
>nibirud my HalQ line
>still lose because bricked
I never play VW before, but is the deck just wins if resolves, brick if lose? I just hate the deck because veiler and Impermenance are completely useless on them and I have no fucking idea what to ogre on them

>>40782909
Ignore me, wrong board

>>40782909
>>40782912
ok well now I'm curious

>>40769732
Actually working, now I have to figure out the timeout second phase

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH UFO IS FILTERING ME
SHOU GOT RID OF MY BOMBS AND MY LIVES AND BYAKUREN CLEANED ME UP

Any recommendations for 2hu clones that are not fangames or Len'en?
I've spent all weekend completing various challenges in DANMAKAI: Red Forbidden Fruit and I really enjoyed its implementation of rank and power and now I want more fresh takes on the formula.

>>40620337
Sometimes I'll see Touhou fanart someone and get interested, but then I see gameplay footage and immediately lose interest

>>40760237
MarisaB was what I was using when I wrote that, but I've since switched to MarisaA since her basic attack is much stronger against bosses. If I'm being stingy with bombs, anyway, I might as well end attacks as quickly as I can.
I also just realized that you can earn extra lives by obtaining points, which makes things a whole lot easier (and gives me a reason to collect the blue).
I also learned that the game's difficulty adjusts itself.
>>40760494
Will do.
>>40761031
Yeah. I managed to get through the first five levels on Normal with bombs. Didn't die at all for the first three stages, used 1-2 bombs by then, and then bomb spammed every time I came close to bullets. Not the way I ultimately want to play, but it's fine for my first 1cc.

>>40640427
summer lets you do high level releases often, which give more piv, so you can focus on that in the earlygame
>>40706141
cornerbombing isn't a bug, zun tells you how to do it in omake.txt

>>40770010
wait is the high score a different run

>>40799035
>cornerbombing isn't a bug, zun tells you how to do it in omake.txt
I didn't know he actually acknowledged it. Learning.

>僅かですが得することもあります。
>僅かですが
After reading it, it sounds like it was an oversight that he noticed and left in as a funny quirk, but I doubt he expected it to end up being the source of like a third of your score for certain shot types.

>しかし、弾幕ＳＴＧに限って言うと、私にとってはどうしても納得のいかない方向に進んでいる様に思えます。
>その大きな要因は、
>弾避けを考慮に入れない斬新なシステム
The rest of this omake is funny to read now, since basically every game after UFO replaces dodging with invincibility, unlimited resource spam, and/or various forms of bullet eating mechanics.

>>40798230
yeah, on normal you will have to work just a tiny bit to get the final extend. the most effective way of scoring in this game is to have high graze and cancel lots of bullets, because the star items dropped from cancelled bullets give score based on graze. stage 3 starts with fairies that shoot aimed kunai, and you should make tiny sidesteps to graze them all, and you can do the same thing the other times they appear throughout the stage. this will pay off quite a lot on meiling's attacks, since she constantly spawns a ton of bullets in her spells that will all get cancelled when you kill her. this alone will be more than enough to get you on track for the 60 million extend by the start of remilia.

i think MarisaA is a fine choice btw, almost as good as MarisaB, but her Patchouli is much harder IMO.

>>40796109
If that sort of normalfag-tier pics are what got you interested then good riddance.
Especially if you're the kind of person who makes up their opinion of a game by watching footage instead of actually playing it.

>>40796043
Here's a pretty nice one I came across years ago, it's free too
https://store.steampowered.com/app/368950/Jigoku_Kisetsukan_Sense_of_the_Seasons/

>>40799064
Probably a run in which he didn't get the 1cc but scored higher anyway.

>>40802689
man I hate it when that happens

Just beat my first touhou, IN, normal 1CC with 7 lives. Default lives seems rediculously hard for me at this point

>>40800235
none of this is necessary for 60m, just learn the stages so you can poc a lot

>>40804735
Which team? Now that you have all practice stages unlocked you can work your way down to default lives.

>>40782719
>>40782897
Also remember you can use the release to kill enemies. It does damage. So as long as they have low health, you can basically just activate it and ram the fuck out of a bunch of enemies in certain portions of the stages.
I really like HSIFS, the different sub seasons give you a lot of different playstyles, plus there's some fun patterns.

>>40805261
Reimu Yukari. Man Reimu's damage seems really bad.

>>40805198
you don't need it, but on my first 1cc i legit finished with less than 60m because i was only focused on dodging during the stages. grazing the kunai fairies on stage 3 is super simple, no harder than dodging normally, so it's a little easier than learning where to poc in the stages. to be fair though i was very very new to touhou when i did my run, so the issue of not getting to 60m might not be something anyone else really encounters lol

>>40806698
>On my first 1cc i legit finished with less than 60m because i was only focused on dodging during the stages
Like a ton of players? This is often a entry point title for people who also happen to have little shmup fundamentals. It's an arcade game, nobody wants to read things, so they just play it. I'm pretty confident that there are many people who've 1cc'd EoSD that don't even know PoC is in the game, or have gotten that final extend.
If you're struggling with it and want to talk about it, you'll probably get told to not forget to Press X & Shift, or perhaps a deeper dive into how the later stages work.
All that to say that it's more likely to happen than you seem to think.

>>40805560
Been a while since I touched IN, but border team is mainly for small hitbox + easy deathbomb.
Maybe you would like Netherworld team better. Yuyuko's spread lets you focus more on dodging, and Youmu with Myon just cuts through HP. Same with their unfocused bomb.

>>40801687
Looks alright, I'll check it out. Thanks.

>>40796109
Good now fuck off like the coward you are

New post on the blog from the guy recompiling the PC98 games for the curious, this time about yuugenmagan.
http://rec98.nmlgc.net/blog/2022-08-08

It's funny how ZUN's spaghetti code got to the point he inserted an if-case checking for lunatic difficulty inside an if-case that checks for hard difficulty.

>>40800241
>>40810054
Why can't they make a touhou game that isn't just a weeb Candy Crush knockoff but with even worse graphics? If I have to choose between touhou and Genshin Impact, it's no contest.

>>40819145

>>40807436
Dude he said he want damage give him MALICE CANON. Also if you think reimu's damage is bad you wukl hate Team Netherworld. At least Team Border have good bombs

>>40821717
Doesn't nether team also have good bombs?

>at last card on last life with Sakuya A but have three more bombs for Shinmyoufaggot, easy
>bomb duration popped right off in the middle of bullet clusters and dies immediately without me able to press bomb in time
I wish we have the freedom to pop the duration like Cherry Blossom in PCB. This has got to be the closest I got to 1CCing DDC and I'll probably never get this chance again

>>40821738
Sorry I meant team scarlet or whatever their team name is. I still can't figure out how Sakuya's bomb works, it either does decent or literally zero damage

>>40821717
Malice Cannon is obvious, but I think Border to Netherworld is less of a jump in terms of gameplay style. Plus as a beginner he won't learn as much just spamming shift.
>if you think reimu's damage is bad you wukl hate Team Netherworld
Nah, a well-positioned Myon and close range Yuyuko do good damage.

>>40821869
this is probably subjective but I like playing as Powerful route shot types because I think Marisa's patterns are easier than Reimu's. Also because all those shots get slow focused speed

Mmm,mm! My glue bottle was especially tasty today! I'm set for success!

>>40823623
I also ate an extra helping of glue this morning, and somehow missed Koa's bomb drop.

What should be the metric for 100%ing a Touhou game? 1CC and every spell cpatured on all difficulty settings (even ez modo) with all shot types?

>>40829691
Something like this.

>>40830151
does PCB have a counterstop?

>>40659916
Ahhhhh Sumisexo!!!!

>>40830608
Yes, at 10B.

My little brother wants to get into Touhou and I've been pondering which one would be best as an introduction. He's got like 3k hours in Geometry Dash and his sole interest in Touhou is that it looks hard when he sees me play it. He has no interest in story, characters, music- he just wants a challenge despite 0 bullet hell experience. My suggestions are 6, 7, 10- all are relatively simplistic gimmick-wise, making them easy to pick up for a newcomer.
What do you all think? I'm leaning towards 10 since it acts like a soft reboot and it's gimmick is only relevant towards scoring, and the 2-life start prevents the bad habit of starting with a bazillion lives that 6/7/8 offers.

>>40831544
4 and 5 are the most beginner friendly, get him started there.

>>40831544
I'd recommend 10 or 14, but really, anything besides the snoozefests of 6 and 7 are a good idea

>>40831544
Try StB and DS

>>40831544
HRtP

>>40831544
11

>>40831544
SA or UFO. Tell him the games were meant to be played on hard and that normal is really easy.

>>40831544
Any of the main games, but make sure to tell him that Lunatic is the default difficulty and the other ones are only there to make the games playable for casuals.

this isn't 2hu related
but i want to run a PC-98 game
i have downloaded Animahjong and also Anex86
It runs if i load game disk and system disk but it prints out gibberish
i also have 3 more files whose function i don't know
wat do? is it a locale problem?

>>40834526
Anex is old as fuck, try with DOSBox-X or NekoProject 21/W.
The disks look like they're made for installing the game into your hdi hard drive image and then running the game with the game disk inserted.

>>40836217
ok i will try with those programs you mentioned danke :)

>>40836217
Nekoproject worked but it is printing shit out in japanese
which means the site i downloaded the rom from lied

This has to be the single most retarded concept for a spell card I have ever seen
Being difficult is one thing, but this is literally just rolling the dice to make it to the next wave and praying to RNG that it happens till Miko dies

>>40843024
Is it literally just RNG? I figured there was some safespot you had to memorize for each wave variation, but I never bothered spending much time on it.

>>40786771
The UFO experience.
Don't give up! If you're not getting filtered by stage 4 and Murasa (or even stage 3 and Ichirin), you're almost there.

>>40831544
Mountain of Faith or Imperishable Night

My least favorite thing about EoSD is definitely the very large quantity of bullet patterns that have the boss dashing around at total random. Very easy to get caught off guard and either smacked by a weirdly placed bullet, or corralled into a corner where you have to fight your way out just to damage that dancing dunderhead again. Annoying!
I know the next few games at least have a few patterns like that, but not as bad as EoSD at least. And off the top of my head those types of attacks seem to have become a lot less common? Usually if a boss is moving I think they tend to follow you more closely?

Why not give the mansion another visit on its 20th anniversary?

>>40844535
Laser spam is just RNG, yes. Basically you choose a side based on lowest amulet density, then you go there and hope you don't get bombarded by a gorillion lasers. If you do then you restart, if you don't you may keep flipping the coin
You get very little time to adjust your positioning after the lasers appear too so it's not just about picking the correct side, you also have to randomly pick the correct region on that side too. Only then can you start actually dodging the amulets, which honestly aren't really a big issue

>>40847600
I'm just paraphrasing hearsay but IIRC in some games bosses will always dash in your horizontal direction but at a random length (so if you are on the right side of a boss she may move 10 or 50 pixels to the right) while in other games they have a 2/3 chance of moving toward you horizontally and 1/3 of moving away. Some games also don't limit how far they can move vertically which can lead to retarded situations where the bosses are so low on screen you have almost no room to dodge.

>>40849928
you mean to tell me ZUN didn't do this intentionally to test my dodging skills??

>>40620337
>playing through LoLK as first bullet hell in a long ass time
>doremy's first spell card takes 25 attempts before I say fuck it and bomb through
>second spell card beat in 2
I have no idea what I'm doing but that baku is doing things to me.

I hate stage 4 of PCB so much.

>>40862038
Just stream bro.

I hate the stage 6 difficulty spike.
Just got to Keiki's stage for the first time after losing only 2 lives, a good run all around.
Only for the midboss to take my first life, and Keiki killing me off for at least 3 more times until I got the bad ending. It's infuriating.

>>40871427
I love how PC98-like this card is.

This thread is dead.... that's what we get for chasing out easymodo bros...

>>40871396
Keep going, you can do it!

>>40875813
Thank you, anon.

Does anyone have a shot type tier list or something like that for PoDD? Wanna see who are the best and who are the most garbage characters in that game

>>40871396
Bomb more

>>40831544
>his sole interest in Touhou is that it looks hard
LoLK, tell him point device is seen as cheating.

>>40878108
>point device is seen as cheating.
Not if you NB it. On Lunatic of course

>>40878168
Still cheating
Capturing PDH on anything more than your 100th attempt invalidates your cheated clear making it invalid to appear on your chart

>>40878168
>Not if you NB it
what's even the point of that
NB makes zero sense if you have an infinite amount of attempts, the whole point of NB is that it drastically reduces your error margin down to the max amount of lives you can get in an average run. all that would prove is that you can capture lunatic PDH, which is cool i guess but still

>>40878099
What do when I'm out of bombs?

>warm up in practice and I can capture most shinmy, seija and benben's card in first try
>"Today sure is the day!"
>dies to Banki's second last card
>close game

Beware: the single worst track in all of Umineko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MokPYfeLk

>really good run
>suddenly die for no reason
Why does this keep happening?

The new touhou is kicking my ass
any advice? how to save replay

YEEEEES!!!!! I'VE DONE IT!!!!!
So the trick was using otters this entire time...

Finally...

>>40881853
>enter stage 6 with only 2 misses
>somehow game over
Idk bro

Is it normal to take me 100 tries for some specific spells?

>>40885628
Depends on the spell, usually no. LoLK will very quickly get you accustomed to doing 100+ attempts on spells.

>>40885628
Not really, that one in particular is pretty hard. Those Honest Man's Death numbers, though? Please do yourself a favor and watch any IN Extra replay, that spell card becomes trivial after you understand how it works.

>>40882005
>>40882548

>>40885628
I can't unsee it, every time

>>40885850
I did but I still didn't get it. I just figured it out now around the 160th time and am mainly having trouble with the last ones now and the circle nonspells.

>PCB LNN s4 pace into Prismriver
>Using SakuyaB so I'll have to fight Merlin
>Choke and die 3+ times on her first non
Can someone please help me? I'm considering to just use another character to avoid that opener

>>40886040
Just practice it on thprac until you get it right at least 80% of the time. That's what thprac is best used for.

>>40885850
It feels really good when you figure it out yourself though, even if the entire spell is just trial and error.

just sitting here spamming the "bomb" over and over again.
Is this really what ZUN intended?

>>40887346
Which game is this?

>>40887731
TH18.5

Any Card Translations yet?

>>40885850
Still poorly designed garbage though since it goes against what you'd think to do with an approaching laser

>>40887346
Hey, me too. Requires a bit of luck to get going by getting the right cards in the first few shops but you become nigh unstoppable by the end.

Marisa's damage output in 18.5 is so fucking bad. I can't do any damage to bosses.

>Died several times on stage 4
>Died 30+ times on stage 5, reaching the boss only twice.
It's not easy... It doesn't help that it's a different boss.

>>40885628
Fujiyama Volcano is a particularly hated card. In fact, it's probably the most hated part of Mokou alongside the "rings of death".

>>40885628
It took me ~250 attempts to first capture some cards that I later became extremely consistent at. Some people may be faster but as long as you get there it doesn't really matter.

>>40887346
>>40889362
How do you make that work for you? I've tried focusing on bombs but most runs I feel like I'm just building up a load of bullets to crash in on me

>>40890114
the urumi passive to stop the bullets completely
I used the mallet to get rid of bullets (I didn't have the drums yet)

spamming the bomb-button doesn't work for me, it makes the bullets move in a little. instead, when I wait until the bomb almost expires and then press, it seems to buffer the input

>>40890180
adding: but if you get Flandre's card rolling, you don't need mallet/drum anymore.

>>40890114
I'm far from consistent and good, but I absolutely need to stack up on Futo. The idea is to move out of the way from all the frozen bullets, but without the bonus spell duration, I can't find a way out.
Take this with a grain of salt, though, as I'm struggle on stage 5.
Getting 2 stacks of Flandre is very helpful too, especially against the bosses.

How do I unlock the last stage in touhou 18.5?

Is there a way to manipulate which boss shows up in a stage? I've been grinding the same stage forever just to collect the remaining exclusive cards

>>40889565
Your "bomb" (X key) also does damage.

>>40890114
Aunn + Flandre and you're basically playing MoF

>>40890323
I don't think there is, but you can equip the dragon card to skip to the boss.

>Aunn
>Flandre
>Byakuren
>Futo
>Kaguya so you can buy it all faster
G fucking G ZUN.

>>40890736
After reading the last several posts I managed to beat Clownpiece on my first attempt by mashing X. Shit's insane.

>>40890885
Yeah congrats you don't have to try anymore outside the end of market.

how do I progress the new game after beating chimata? I beat her again with the blank card and it didn't do anything

>>40891849
beat stage 4 with the blank card

ZUN probably should have made it possible to buy the entire shop after beating Takane. Even after getting Junko's card grinding to unlock all teh cards is pretty slow.
That's the only complaint with the game, this is so fun. The card system is just too fun

How do I stop sucking?
I've been dying on stage 5 all day. It feels like if I don't get the right cards the first round or 2, there is nothing I can do to recover. (The right cards being Byakuren or Aunn.)
I like the basic gameplay, though. It reminds me of PoFV, which I love. I just don't think ZUN understands that games that use RNG well use it to make every run different, not to make 50% of the runs unfun.
I feel like ranting, so here I go...

Take a good roguelike (hell, lets consider Rogue itself, since that's a good example):
Somehow, almost every run manages to have something going for it, something that makes the player think this could be the run. It probably helps that there is more randomly generated loot than there are random cards in UM and 18.5, since that causes things to average out. ZUN can't trust the law of large numbers here, so he should have made sure there always are economy cards to buy (Byakuren, Aunn, etc), and not leave that to chance.
Furthermore, in Rogue, your damage feels just right starting out. In both UM and 18.5, ZUN decided to make the player character feel too weak when they start out, thus making a poor first impression. Even worse, I'm still weak, because I figured I can survive the early rounds anyway, and I need cards with more long-term benefits. So I'm permanently playing a game that feels bad to play in the early levels since that appears optimal.
To summarize, the card system feels more like gacha than a proper deckbuilding game.
It also sucks that I have like 4000 gold and nothing to spend on, since I've been bashing my head against stage 5 forever. The meta-progression system could use some, too, it seems.

Keep in mind that these are all just impressions by someone who can't even read what the cards do. Please change my mind; I would have more fun if I didn't have to reset due to card RNG.

>>40892564
literally just start with Flan and Kaguya in your deck then buy Lives, Futo, Byakuren, and Aunn

Go back and play earlier Stages to get more cards and potentially equip slots+spac if you haven't done so already

>>40892564
Just like with UM it's more about your starting loadout than what you'll get in the run. Shop RNG just adds flavor the run (and occasionally breaks it with busted combos on top of starting busted combo).
>It also sucks that I have like 4000 gold and nothing to spend on
You're supposed to buy everything you can for discounts during the run. No fucking way you bought everything, accumulated 4k gold and still can't beat stage 5 unless you were skipping bosses in previous stages.

>>40891867
what to do after beating nitori?

>>40898440
Beat your meat.