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Who cares about Shannon

>>4066084
>Shannon
>Girl

>>4066086
Oh god, please don't start another Shkannontrice discussion.

>>4066077
Wait, why isn't Dlanor with Erika?

>>4066104
Dlanor is dead

>>4066111
WHAT

>>4066102
its proven false already so its not needed

They say, the more glorious the death is, the longer you will live.

Good Night, Sweet Princess.

>>4066111
no more awesome yandere murderous church girl?
wtf r07, wtf man. dlanor was awesome.

>>4066111
Haw can logic be dead ;_;

>>4066119
Yeah, yesterday a few good dudes pretty much shat all over it. Still, I wouldn't put it past R07....

>>4066115
>>4066123
>>4066127
Actually, Erika is pretty goddamn manly in this game. She has this duel by herself, because she knows Dlanor will die if she involves her. And yes, Dlanor and Erika become a couple in this episode.

>>4066129
I can't find it in the archive, do you have a link of some sort?

>>4066136
Oh boy, another chair fucker

>>4066136
yeah sure, they became a couple of friends

>>4066077
Aw, Beato and Battler are trolling Erika together, that's so sweet...

>>4066162
The couple that trolls together, stays together.

>>4066136
>And yes, Dlanor and Erika become a couple in this episode.
Nope.

Hello? Is this Studio DEEN? Why the hell did you give my daughter blue eyes, you know she doesn't have blue eyes....

>>4066178
Seriously, what the hell are Meta-Battler and Meta-Beatrice going to do when they can't troll each other anymore? I mean, fuck, they seem to like trolling more than sex.... Or perhaps trolling to them IS sex....

>>4066264
They'll probably go back to trying to kill each other again, because if they don't, the fans will complain and Ryukishi will lose creds.

>perhaps trolling to them IS sex....

i can live with that.

>>4066280
Well, Episode 8, if he decides to write it, will totally be Battler vs Beatrice. Remember, said in red that Battler will kill Beatrice.

>>4066216

Maybe it's one of the infamous anime only hints? Or maybe it's just because they didn't want to give all the human characters the same colour eyes as they seem to do in the SN?

>>4066322
DEEN seems to have a thing for Jessitrice. Pic related....


But yeah, odd that they made her eyes blue.

>>4066355
Oh Umineko previews, u so crazy.

>>4066391
they were the best part of the anime, every preview was really good also the rule better the preview, worse the episode, so you had at last the signal

>>4066216
Wait, they made Jessica's eyes blue in the animu? That's interesting, I might have to actually watch the anime if there are indeed exclusive "hints" there.

....Are there exclusive hints there?

>>4066430

No. DEEN just fucks up a lot.

>>4066430
I believe there are, and Ryu seems to have acknowledged them.

But I didn't really watch the anime.

>>4066430
Read the manga, lots of hints or so Ryu says.

>>4066430
They made most of the casts eyes blue so it's not a hint, it's just DEEN being gay.

Unless you think Battler is Kinzo is Maria (her eyes are purple though) is Beatrice.

>>4066430
that it's shit is the most obvious, basically Shanon and Kanon look exactly the same (if it wasn't for LOLDEEN proportions and heights), blue eyed Jessica, they left the pony part, this kind of things, also was confirmed that what ange saw in ep4 was sakutaro

>>4066465
I meant

Battler is Kinzo is Maria is Shannon is Kanon is Beatrice.

Because they all have blue eyes by DEEN, so they all must be the same person right?

>>4066470
II mean the pony part was in the anime

>>4066465
I don't know. Personally I've been looking into Umineko, and the most sketchy people I've been finding are Kyrie, Kanon, Jessica, and Nanjo.

So I'm just trying to use every "clue" I can find.

She deserved it

>>4066516
Yeah, she did. Good to see she faced death like a man, though.

JESSICA HAS AN ENGLISH CLASS IN HER HIGHSCHOOL, AND BEATO SAYS 'ITS PAAFEKUTO' SO THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON BECAUSE BEATO SHOULDN'T KNOW ENGLISH UNLESS SHE TOOK ENGLISH IN HIGHSCHOOL AND SANG WHILE IN TOUHOU COSPLAY BUT DIDN'T EVEN SING A TOUHOU RELATED SONG.

>>4066470

You can't honestly think DEEN had any idea what they were doing. Battler had blue eyes too.

>>4066536
If Jessica is Beatrice then her mother never taught her about the birds & the bees.

>>4066536
BUT WAIT SIR, IT'S PRONOUCED PUR-FECT.
YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES!

>>4066533
that's the main part, lots of poeple die in Umineko, Erika's death was the best

>>4066553
Well, that's what she had Kinzo for!
DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!

>>4066556
Nah, Rosa's fantasy death in episode two remains the most epic thing I've seen in Umineko.

GOAT SHOOTAN.
RELATIONSHIP WITH DAUGHTER REFORMAN.
MANLY TEARAN.

>>4066557
She's also someone needs to clue her up on common house hold pets.

>>4066556

Not even close

>>4066572

Jessica is actually.....
[] The Culprit
[] Beatrice
[] A yandere lesbian
Pick two.

>>4066572
I was disappointed in Ep2 ending. Battler totally should've faked defeat and used Beatrice's order to dress her to grope her. And Rosa should've crashed the hidden witch party for total carnage.

>>4066609
[x]A yandere lesbian
[x]Fuck you, when I see boxes I choose to GENUFLECT.

You know, that Bernkastel reminds me of someone but I JUST can't figure out who....

>>4066609
[x] an useless minor character

Erika faced them alone so Dlanor wouldn't have a chance to die. WHAT A BRO ;_;

>>4066658
Minor? This is when they cry, every character either has a fucked up backstory or is the main character, no exceptions.

>>4066659
One noble act does not a bro make.

>>4066583
the rest die pathetically running from the enemy, Kinzo just starts laughing and burns, also you don't know if rosa really dies, erika's death doesn't have competition (Beato's death doesn't count)

>>4066667
Hideyoshi and Genji, teh later just is too in the face to have a backstory

>>4066658
>>an useless minor character
It's actually supposed to be a useless minor character, you don't ALWAYS have an before a vowel, after all.

>>4066659
SHOT THROUGH THE HEART, AND YOU'RE TO BLAME!
YOU GIVE RAAB, A BAD NAME!

Ah, well met, gentlemen.
Now as for this whole "who is Beatrice affair", may I suggest the following?

In episode 4, Beatrice says that she likes rape. Ergo, One proposes that all Battler has to do to find out who is Beatrice is rape every female on the island. Whoever enjoys it must be Beatrice.

Can anyone upload FHC dictionary for atlas?
Hongfire is down 99% of the time, damn it.

>>4066720
I like the way you think.
Though I would guess Natsuhi is one of those as well.

>>4066739
Ah, my dear Anon, it is clearly stated that Natsuhi is pure.... still, you may have a point, Battler should try her to be safe.

>>4066720
AA+ SOLID PLAN, WOULD GO THROUGH WITH IT AGAIN.

There needs to be a doujin of this. If there isn't, /jp/ can motherfucking MAKE ONE, goddamn.

>>4066745
The ending should be everyone CLAIMING to be Beatrice because of how good Battler is. Yes, even Kyrie.

>>4066720
Actually, it's far more likely that Battler would be the one being raped.

>>4066766
You know, Battler isn't a damsel in episode 6, so much as he is a yandere nutjob...

>>4066659
Are there any pictures of Jessica as a child in that dress?

>>4066785
He's a yandere nutjob damsel in distress who has moments of GAR.

> Battler: "Beatrice was a woman who fought with both reason and madness. She always fought no matter what. She made me rage, made me weep, made me feel so many emotions, I can't even describe them. And then, in that very last game. At the very last moment... she won. Completely. But she never had a chance to look at her card before she collapsed. Beato, without ever knowing that she had won... died.

> Beato was the one who won that last game. And this is the board she gave me. So I WILL win."

>>4066785
Just wait til episode VII. With Bern as GM Battler will cry tears of blood.

And shit, this ???? was awesome.

>>4066824
Battler already knows the truth, Bern will just actualize it. He'll beat her in the end, though.

>>4066722
I can upload mine which has that one+my umineko one

>>4066824
> And shit, this ???? was awesome.
Fuck yeah Super Hanyuu eating entrails and having a portrait of Cape Battler.

>>4066841
Why is Super Hanyuu such a bitch?

>>4066853
She's nice.

>>4066853
Because of the disease known as "boredom".

Well, I do have to say, at the very least, perhaps the Kanon and Jessica shippers will shut up now? I mean, fuck, it was pretty much debunked in this, wasn't it?

>>4066841
Entrails biscuits really got me... Nice reference to Oyashiro Sama.

>>4066838
Yes, plese.

>>4066868
It wasn't debunked.
And it only got hotter, can't wait for my yuri doujins.

>>4066856
Yes, so nice that Bernkastel states that Auau is much worse than her.

>>4066868
No, it wasn't debunked. Jessica is still as lesbian as ever.

>>4066873
Oh, but remember how Jessica can't come up with a reason for why she lov-
>yuri doujins
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THAR

>>4066876
Yes, cause all the shit the meta peopla say is something to take in face value.

>>4066876
>trusting bernkastel

>>4066882
Seems like a solid idea to me....

>>4066870
Her human-side name is a direct reference, too. 八城, "Hachijou", can also be read as "Yashiro". Add the honorific "o-" to the front, and what do you get?

Oh, and there's the whole "Featherine" -> "Feather-in" -> 羽 (kanji for "feather") + 入 (kanji for "in") = Hanyuu. And Augustus Aurora -> AuAu.

So yeah, at this point it's a little more than just plain referencing.

Bern: Beato once said that witch is the best person to have tea with. But I guess it's not true in our case.
Au: Yes, because we both are...
Bern and Au: MONSTERS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (credits roll)

Battler is so fucked...

Admit it, you went "FUCK YEAH" when Kyrie used her envy maths.

>>4066868
How was it debunked?

>>4066904
No, I just realized tha tthe story started getting ridiculous.

>>4066904
Sup Kyrie

>>4066904
To be honest, the Jessica vs Kyrie battle was like a ping-pong battle, I really didn't know who to root for.

Unlike the George vs Eva battle, in which I wanted George to GET BACK IN THE WOMB BACK IN THE WOMB BACK IN THE WOMB

>>4066904
Yes. And her fight in Episode 6 was just as awesome. Hell, she probably would've won if it hadn't been for Ronove helping Jessica.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfljvI5f0U
This song totally isn't You at all.

>>4066838
>>4066838
>>4066838

Do it please.

>>4066871
ok, here you have
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6RJU57D
it contains what I could also add that (names, places)+acual things from ep5 and less from ep6 but still, don't be surprised from Shannon you're a clitoris

>>4066904
And when Leviathan showed up to help Kyrie.

>>4066926
Or wait, silly me, the thing I was responding to was most likely talking about the EP6 fight.

>>4066931
wrong link, this one
http://www.mediafire.com/?eojoqmjhaqz

>>4066931
thanks kind anon

>>4066907
Well, first off, in the love scene where Kanon confesses to Jessica, she fails to say WHY she likes Kanon. The scene comes off as forced on her part, and how! Plus, they lose the RAAB battle, but that's not the issue. Jessica is hesistant the whole time, while George is ALRIGHT SO WHO DO I GOTTA KILL NEXT? AH FUCK IT I'LL JUST KILL MY MOM NBD.

There is a REASON Jessica gets an envy powerup at the end.

>>4066927
Sounds a bit like a "Yakusoku" remix.

>>4066950
not that one
this one>>4066944

>>4066926
To be fair, she had Leviathan on her side. Nothing is as enraging as Shannon's fight, GG YOU KILLED A LITTLE GIRL BY CRUSHING HER TO DEATH, WAY TO BE A HERO.

>>4066952
i lol'd

>>4066969
>GG YOU KILLED A LITTLE GIRL AND HER FRIEND BY CRUSHING THEM TO DEATH, WAY TO BE A HERO.

Fixed.

>>4066927
this song makes me teary eyed 8D i'm a huge and obsessive Kanon X Jessica fan<3 eee im so excited for ep 6.

Oh, youtube.

>>4066882
DID SHE EVER LIE TO US?
I mean, from the very beginning, she told us she was a bitch.

>>4067013
EP7 should be awesome, since she'll make everyone look like evil assholes.

Since they pretty much are, no more Beatrice/Battler making them look good.

>>4066882
To be honest she never actually lied directly. It was all fans fault for thinking she's nice and cute, even though she said she's the cruelest bitch alive in the very first ????.

>>4067052
I don't know, I believe in Rudolf..MAGICAL CHEF GOHDA.. and... er.... Battler. Fuck, those are the only three I don't suspect in some way.

>>4067064
Still, admitting you are a horrible, horrible monster doesn't soften the fact that you are a horrible, horrible monster. And she totally decieved Ange.

>>4067090
At least she didn't lie about Ange getting her family back

>>4067009
Oh god, I want Kanon to be a reverse trap more than ever now....

Why is Hanyuu evil now?

>>4067116
Because Rika is evil too.

>>4067116
Because she got stuck in Oyashiro mode.

>>4067120
Why is Rika evil?

>>4067130
Because her heart broke due to the events of Higurashi.

Oh hey guys, so, you wouldn't believe it! My father agreed to fund my amazingly awesome moon resort, in exchange for "quality" time with Jessica! That old idiot is PAYING me to take Jessica out shooting and fishing! What a moron, I did those things with him for free!

>>4067116
Inmortality and boredom make people assholes.

>>4067130
Because Ryukishi turned the WTC franchise into grimdark bullshit.

ALL EVIL
NO REDEMPTION
BAD END
CONVOLUTED PLOT
FINAL DESTINATION

>>4067103
If Bomb/whatever shit happens at the end theory is correct, nobody came back even in ep5...

>>4067130
Rika and Hanyuu were always cold and cruel. There are shitloads of clues in Higurashi.

>>4067138
Bern is definitely going to be redeemed. Lambda kept talking about her past made her like this.

>>4067138
Well, I'm sure if Bern had love she'd be fine.

>>4067154
>Bern
>Redeemed
Yeah, and that Hellmaster guy is just misunderstood....

>>4067154
Don't forget about Bern's image song.

>>4067154
Erika had her past fleshed out a little, and that bitch got axed.

>>4067154
Lambda arranged this whole game to make Bern more human. Of course she'll get redeemed.

>>4067169
But... uh... dude.... Lambda CAUSED Bern to be such an asshole. Remember Takano?

>>4067167
Just like Ange and Beato died right?

>>4067173
Bern pretty much says it was Super Hanyuu who twisted her. Lambda, on the other hand, talks about how she and Bern went through the same kind of pain, so they understand each other.

So yeah...

>>4067177
Wait, wait, AUAU caused this?
Mybrainisfulloffuck.jpg

>>4067138
better good grimdark that stupid POWER OF FRIENDSHIP, also don't call grimdark shit, it was an interesting change

>>4067182
She caused it by getting Bern stuck in a logic error that crushed her heart.

>>4067182
If you forgot, in Saikoroshi-hen Hanyuu tells Rika that she committed a sin by saving the memories of all the dead Rikas/causing the timeloops to occur. Said sin was most likely the creation of Bernkastel.

>>4067206
Why? Why did she do that?

>>4067222
Two reasons.

1. She didn't want Rika to die.
2. She didn't want someone taking over her position as god of Hinamizawa.

>>4067221
Nah, Bernkastel IS the Rika we are familar with, that really is the point of Rei. She gets better, though.

>>4067234
Well, true, technically the Rikas we saw in Higurashi were never the original Rikas of those Fragments.

>>4067200
It's still going to be retarded POWER OF LOVE, but with grimdark to get to it, and poorly done.

The moral of Umineko is that human beings are either batshit insane, or asshole, but you should love them anyway so you can cast magic missile.

>>4067200

That said, good GRIMDARK too usually includes a tiny spicing of power of friendship. Though usually disguised as loyalty, undying devotion, etc.
Attempting to introduce GRIMDARK by having random bloody murder and betrayal all the time just for the sake of it always fails.

>>4067173
Lambda is not Takano. If anything she's more like Satoko.

>>4067250
No, I'm not saying she IS Takano, but she enabled Takano. Lambda says as much in the Tanabata.

>>4067248
Good thing Umineko doesn't do that.

I didn't think this ep was too grimdark. Battler has exactly three asshole moments, pulls himself out of it, and goes back to being the lovable incompetent he always has been. Likewise, Beato is a moeblob for a while, but once her husbando is in distress, she does what she does best and rushes off to pull his ass out of the fire.

>>4067269
What are the three asshole moments? I've heard that there were more like 4960539 asshole moments, but I want to believe that there were fewer. ;_;

>>4067269
And then they shoot Erika to death.
Which, quite frankly, isn't GRIMDARK so much as it is stress releasing.

>>4067265
Don't you mean Lambdadelta's Diary? It explains Lambda's reasoning for why she granted certainty to Takano.

With this last ???? it's like 300% sure that Bernkastel is Rika. Not some being born from Rika, she really is Rika. And Aurora is Hanyuu.

Time sure can change people...

>>4067269
I like Battler being the husbando in distress, it's alway backwards. Your incompetent Battler gets in trouble, go deus ex machina and create your own miracle. then have a duel with an Erika turned intro a villain BRO and end with some class

>>4067293
To be honest, I am not particularly surprised. One life time of GOOD END does not make up for thousands of lifetime's worth of torture.

>>4067293
Um, no. Why do you think that exactly?

>>4067293
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>4067281
People really exaggerated about how bad Battler was this episode. Not even the cookie scene was as bad as people made it sound.

>>4067293
Explain?

MEANWHILE, THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY
.....What the fuck should I do for episode 7?

>>4067308
Many clues. Like how Bern mentioned being Aurora's longest serving miko.

>>4067344
Better call up BT for some ide

Oh, right.

>>4067336
it was heart breaking for poor moetrice, for real, it was better after she left, battler was just heart broken, is like having an amnesic lover

>>4067359
There is only one man left for Ryukishi to turn to for more ideas.

>>4067354
That's a bit of a stretch. Especially since in Rei, Rika said she was giving up being the Witch of Bernkastel.

So for some unknown reason, she becomes Bernkastel? What happens to the actual Bernkastel?

- Kumasawa and Beato1 are talking as she eats. She bakes butterfly cookies.
- Beato2 apparently senes the love for Battler from Beato1.
- Battler enters suddenly with Genji. He asks why they're inside his study. Kumasawa says that she taught Beato1 how to bake so she can make cookies for Battler.
- Battler takes some time with the cookies. Genji I think is wondering why Battler isn't thanking her out of courtesy.
- After a moment, Battler says thank you, however he says he doesn't like sweets. He coldly again tells Beato1 to go back to her chambers. Kumasawa says she did it for him, Battler acknowledges this, but says a crucial game is going on. He prefers that Beato1 not try and imitate the Brato that he wants.
- Beato1 is sad. Battler tells Kumasawa to fix up but Beato1 says she'll do it herself. Kumasawa is angry and says Battler needs to be more appreciative and not step all over a woman's feelings. Battler is apparently suspicious of poisons and such.
- Beato excuses herself. Battler again says that she doesn't want her calling him Honorable Father. Kumasawa slams the door when they leave.

>>4067138

This is not a bad thing. Though I want explanations on why hanyuu/emperor of span and Bern turned to such massive bitches.

>>4067359
that wasn't funny really, poor guy, he was like his brother, you wouldn't like people doing this if it was about you
>>4067344
he knows who the culprit is and there's an easy way, if Shkanontrice gets TOO popular, just deny it and leave it as Shkanon

MetaWorld (Emo Battler mode)
- In the study, Battler is alone. He starts to hallucinate (?). He sees the cookies that were already taken away. He ends up wondering what kind of cookies they were. A nasty Beato and all her servants appear
- Okay right now I think these are just figments of his imagination.
- Some scenes of the servants talking about the cookies like they're having some sort of fun. Includes Virgilia, Gaap, Ronove and Stakes. God he's clearly hallucinating.
- He tries touching the pahntom cookies and they disappear. They turn to butterflies and the study becomes darkened again. The phantoms disappear as well except for Beato
- This Beato mockingly asks why he's so dissatisfied with the new Beato he created. Battler freaks and demands she disappear. Battler goes to lie on the sofa. She hears the words "The me you want is gone."
- He understands now that this Beato1 is really different from the Beato he wanted. He knows she is no longer alive. She says this Beato will not be like her until 1000 years pass. Even then with different backgrounds it might not come to pass.

- Battler knows Bern guaranteed she would never be revived. Illusion Beato mockingly says maybe this Beato will conk her head on a block of hard tofu and regain her memories. Battler is of course pretty much in emoland and says he will hope.
- He wants to recall the times they duelled and wants to know what she was feeling while they were against each other in those games. He refuses to acknowledge this Beato he is seeing. Illusion Beato calls Beato1 her daughter?
- She apparently entrusts Beato1 with completeing the 1000 year growth. She talks of the possibility of this Beato1 becoing her one day. Very long monologue from her rather hard to translate. She would say that as the the manifestation of the game's rules, Beato1 is the daughter of the rule that is Beatrice.
- Battler is crying and stuff, and finds a one-wing eagle envelope where the cookies were. His eyes are too clouded with tears to be able to read the message properly.

>>4067371
You mean the REAL chiyo and genji, not virgilia and ronove?

>>4067336

Cookie scene was fucking horrible. I can't forgive

>>4067381
See, that's what I see happening. Not saying that Shkannontrice is the truth, because I sincerely don't believe it is, but I don't think he'll have the answer be what everyone thinks it'll be. Dude's a tricky dick.

>>4067393
yes, he uses them for normal things, they just appear as Lia et al. in the actual gameboard

>>4067393
Yeah, Battler keeps Kumasawa and Genji around instead of Ronove and Virgilia. Kumasawa turns into Virgilia in one scene.

>>4067393
They're still Meta characters, and Kumasawa does turn into Virgilia at one point (when she takes Moetrice to AuAu's study so that she can read about the previous Fragments in AuAu's records), but yeah.

>>4067281
1. He acts like a bitch to Proto-Beato in front of Lambda, Bern, and Erika. Basically consists of him telling her to go to her room and not to call him father.

2. Flipping out when they first meet. He runs to hug her and when she doesn't troll him, cue meltdown. This was probably his worst moment, but you can't help but feel bad for him because he's so damn excited over seeing his waifu again.

3. Cookie scene. No, he doesn't throw them on the ground and throw a bitch fit. He calmly, but coldly, thanks Proto-Beato for the effort, but says he doesn't like sweets and he's preoccupied with the game right now. Kumasawa insists he try just one, and he refuses.

>>4067371
>>4067383
>>4067387

;___;

>>4067369
Miko thing isn't the only clue, there are many more. Even the cat is a big clue. Really after this ???? I lost all doubt.

Reading the Tanabata now.
Goddamnit Maria, why do you always make me cry ;_;

>>4067428
because she's had the worst life in the whole game. The rest are just fucked up, but rosa take it to a wholle new level with her bipolarity and so many contrasts between good and bad mom

>>4067439
Well, at least she's not a dude who is actually a chick who thinks she's three people.

>>4067439
Hey maria, wanna go to delsney land, i have a day off, nothing will get in the way.

>>4067427
There's more than one Rika.

>>4067444
Shkanontrice was denied for the most part about three hours ago. Also Maria has another witch-like personality which is actually creepy and with killing intent

>>4067475
Easymodo link please?

>>4067475
You happen to know which thread?
I'd like to see the damn thing being put down with my own eyes.

>>4067475

3 hours ago? link

>>4067475
Ohhhhhh, how so? Link to the thread, plox?

>>4067479
I think he means this one.
>>>4066670

>>4067478
>>4067479
>>4067481
>>4067485
I'm only the first link-beggar here, but my god does it seem like samefag all over the place.

>>4067494
Uh, moron, you do realise that all 5 posts were in the same minute, right? I don't think the same guy would samefag for such a mundane purpose....

>>4067383
>>4067415
>Flipping out when they first meet. He runs to hug her and when she doesn't troll him, cue meltdown.

Holy fuck, Battler is indeed a masochist.

>>4067493
That was a glorious thread.

>>4067552

I think it's less she didn't troll him and more she didn't act like Beato at all. Though Battler wants the troll back badly.

>>4067135
Superior

>>4067567
No, he just wants to be trolled.

>>4067702
If trolling = love, then, does that mean R07 loves us?

>>4067788

Of course he does