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Last time:
Lolitrice=Kannon=Shannon=Beatrice

>> No.4050701
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Rifyu's Erika is the only good Erika

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>> No.4050715

Ryuukishi should just handle the reins of Umineko over to Rifyu.

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>> No.4050723

>>4050705
> That's bullshit man. How can someone love a bomb?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strangelove

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Last time:
OP = FAG

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>> No.4050743

More like

Battler = Maria's dad = Kinzo = Juuza = George = Rudolf = Krauss = Hideyoshi = Genji = Gohda
Jessica = Beatrice = Shannon = Kanon = Maria = Eva = Natsuhi = Rosa
Nanjo is the murderer

>> No.4050744

>>4050723

Requesting gif of Battler waving cowboy hat and riding Beato to bomb Rokkenjima.

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>> No.4050749

>>4050743
Remember that loan mentioned in Episode 1 that Rosa had co-signed on? Maria's dad was the other signer.

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>> No.4050754

>>4050750
It's a Sony!

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>> No.4050765

>>4050752
Love Ange's face :P

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>> No.4050773

STOP

DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A FUCKING RIFYU REPOST THREAD

THERE HAVE BEEN 50 OF THEM THE PAST WEEK

FUCK OFF, I WANT TO DISCUSS UMINEKO

>> No.4050774

Wouldn't it be a great troll if magic turned out to be real?

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Anyone have a download link to all of EP5's bgm as mp3s? The MF link I have doesn't have all.

>> No.4050786

>>4050773
STOP

DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A FUCKING DISCUSSION REPOST THREAD

THERE HAVE BEEN 50 OF THEM THE PAST WEEK

FUCK OFF, I WANT TO POST RIFYU

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reposts of reposts of reposts etc

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>>4050773
FUCK OFF.I AM TIRED WITH SHKANNONTRICE THEORY!!GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAAAAAAAAAAAAAK

>> No.4050794

>>4050778
Convert them yourself.

A good one is here: http://media-convert.com/

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Good night, virgins.

>> No.4050801

>>4050774
It was stated in gold that magic exists. And not by Battler. Also, it was the only line of gold in all of Episode 6.

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>> No.4050806

>>4050801
Note that there was more to the line than just simply saying that magic exists; it was more along the lines of saying "what you just did was magic".

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>> No.4050817

>>4050806

That has no meaning. The new nature of the game is whether or not everybody died because of magic, not whether it exists.

>> No.4050819

>>4050754
God damn I lol'ed.

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>> No.4050830

>>4050817
That wasn't what the person was talking about, though.

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>> No.4050858

>>4050817
That wasn't what the person was talking about, though. Unless you're that person, in which case I misunderstood you.

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>>4050834

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>>4050834
>>4050861
...what is happening around here?

>> No.4050885

>>4050801
So? We aren't even sure what gold means.

>> No.4050898

>>4050885
I forget, does Episode 5 state that it's the trademark tool of/only usable by the Game Master?

>> No.4050905

>>4050898
Yes.

>> No.4050908

>>4050898
Ryukishi said in an interview that if you know the answer you will be able to use it.

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>>4050879
Weren't you going to sleep?

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>>4050898
Something like that. But I'm not really sure what it means.

Red = Truth
Blue = Theories
Gold = ???

Maybe its some sort of proof? That's the only thing that I can think of. It also has a basis in something that is not supernatural since it was able to beat Knox's Second.

>> No.4050924 [DELETED] 

>>4050908
Okay. That means that the Beatrice who represents the original legend of the witch also knows the truth.

>> No.4050936

>>4050908
Okay. That means that the Beatrice who represents the original legend of the witch also knows the truth, despite not actually being the Beatrice we used to know.

>> No.4050943

>>4050908
So, in effect, it's a statement of a portion of the answer?

>> No.4050954

Note that Battler also states that at the end of the fifth game, Beatrice won the game completely. He also says that because he understands magic, he'll be able to take Beatrice outside the game, IIRC.

>> No.4051024

>>4050954
> Note that Battler also states that at the end of the fifth game, Beatrice won the game completely.
Anybody have the translated sentences? I remember seeing it in another thread, and it was pretty ;_;.

>> No.4051038

Quick question, haven't been keeping up with the threads or anything cause I find it pretty pointless, but Battler is carrying out the murders in 6, right?

Does he do it in an awesome fashion. Does he fuck some shit up. Does he push around some demons? Does he rub his unlimited magical energy in Kinzo's face?

>> No.4051039

>>4051024

>Battler: "Beatrice was a woman who fought with both reason and madness. She always fought no matter what. She made me rage, made me weep, made me feel so many emotions, I can't even describe them. And then, in that very last game. At the very last moment...she won. Completely. But she never had a chance to look at her card before she collaspsed. Beato, without ever knowing that she had won... died.

>Beato was the one who won that last game. And this is the board she gave me. So I WILL win."

>> No.4051050

>>4051038
>Battler is carrying out the murders in 6

Nope.

>> No.4051054

>>4051039
Battler is GAR.

>> No.4051058

>>4051038
The plot of Battler's gameboard doesn't involve killing anyone, actually.

Until Erika trolls the fuck out of him.

>> No.4051063

>>4051050
Indeed. Erika does.

>> No.4051065

>>4051038
No he is not. George, Kanon, Shannon, Battler, Jessica, and Beato take care of the murders.

>> No.4051074

>>4051065
You just said Battler doesn't carry out the murders, then you say that he does.

>> No.4051077

>>4051074
Or, well, one of them.

>> No.4051079

The only one that was funny was the first one, the rest are shit.

>> No.4051080

>>4051074
Is suicide murder? Then he murdered himself... maybe. Might be faking it.

>> No.4051085

>>4051074
The fantasy scenes Battler constructs involves Beatrice, George, Shannon, Kanon, and Jessica carrying out the murders, but the "answer" to his gameboard was that no one really died and everyone was faking their deaths to troll Erika.

Then Erika pulls a fast one on him, and, uh.

>> No.4051089

>>4051065
>>4051050
...that is pretty dull. So what is the point of even giving him the powers to carry them out if he isn't going to be the one doing the murdering? I was expecting him to do all kinds of awesome stuff in this episode after seeing his sexy portrait. I feel betrayed.

>> No.4051095

>>4051089
>I feel betrayed.

You're not alone in that. You really, really aren't.

>> No.4051099

>>4051089
Endless Sorcerer Battler is a badass, but he's still Battler. I was pretty touched by the nature of his gameboard, actually.

>> No.4051105

>>4051089
Blame Erika for being even more of a bitch than anyone had anticipated. And also the whole failed-Beato-resurrection thing.

>> No.4051107

>>4051089
In Battler's words, "My role in this isn't to commit serial murders, it's to present you with locked rooms that are impossible unless you accept magic."

>> No.4051110

The Erika in these comics is a lovable little girl. Why can't she be like this in the game?

>> No.4051112

>>4051110
I prefer psychotic, head-chopping Erika, honestly.

>> No.4051113

>>4051107
Apparently, though, not showing actual murders actually obstructs the truth, so Super Hanyuu made Bernkastel the Game Master for the seventh Episode on the condition that she reveals the truth in that game.

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>>4050914
Ah, i was trying to find some me-...mental help in 4chan. Don't worry, Onii-chan, it won't take too much time.

>> No.4051115

>>4051110
Because R07 likes to write sluts.

>> No.4051116

>>4051110
Remember when Erika was somewhat sympathetic, possibly redeemable, and stated by Ryuukishi to be not evil? I don't.

>> No.4051118

>>4051107
>unless you accept magic
Or DID, but thats way too deep for detective work.

>> No.4051126

>>4051116
Yeah, how can Ryukishi say she's not that bad, then have her decapitate five goddamn people the next episode? Guy is an ass.

>> No.4051128

>>4051115
Well he isn't going to make it long in this business if he doesn't change his strategy.

>> No.4051129

>>4051126
Hey, lack of love makes people do crazy things.

>> No.4051132 [DELETED] 

>>4050689
please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano
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ta
lk.c
om thanks in advance have a nice day many hugs from tiny loli

>> No.4051133

>>4051110
>>4051115
The Rifyu Erika seems pretty slutty to me.

>> No.4051142

>>4051133
Slut Erika obsessed with Battler > Slut Erika obsessed with power.

>> No.4051143

>>4051118

>Implying Ryukishi is like a shitty writer who would explain away everything with DID

>> No.4051144

>>4051133
She's just lusting for Battler, like every other umineko female.

>> No.4051155

>>4051144
Are we talking about the real games, of the comics? Because I don't think there are any females really lusting after Battler in the games. Everyone seems pretty neutral to him.

>> No.4051168 [DELETED] 

>>4050690
please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano
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>>4051155

>> No.4051178

>>4051155
The comics.

>> No.4051186

>>4051175
I wouldn't call one girl who shows slight romantic hints to him the whole female cast.

>> No.4051206 [DELETED] 

>>4050690
please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano
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lk.c
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>> No.4051205

>>4051186
> slight romantic hints
Beatrice's entire reason for existing is to love Battler. No, seriously. Have a monologue from Episode 6 (somebody else translated it):

...Beatrice.
Listen carefully.
I will turn over my love for Battler to you.
Become the woman Battler desires.

I will give you the blonde hair he desires.
I will give you the blue eyes he desires.
I will give you the new personality he desires.
And... In place of me, love him.
And if possible, be loved by him.

I can no longer love him.
The feelings I could not obtain...the feelings I could not bear...please obtain them.

From this day forward, you are no longer the phantom of Rokkenjima who only plays tricks.
From this day forward, you are the ruler of Rokkenjima, and the one who waits for him to return until he fulfills his promise.

From this day forward, you will inherit that in my place.
Thus, from this day forward, you are no longer me.

I will push all of my suffering on to you... Please forgive me for being the only one to become happy.

From this day forward, you have the qualifications to detest everything.
You are the Golden Witch, Beatrice.

And someday.
Destroy everything, revive everything.
...Bless all lovers.

At that time.
...For both you and I to find happiness together...I will be wishing for from the bottom of my heart.

From this day on, you are not me.
From this day on, I am not you.
We will divide one soul, and share.
That naturally won't fill up one soul, but. (? not 100% sure about this line)
Surely it will allow (us/you/me? no subject defined) to see more dreams than a person.
May we be blessed...
My cute Beatrice...

>> No.4051218

>>4051205
Or, well, not her reason for existing, but it's why she exists as she does.

>> No.4051229

>>4051205
>...For both you and I to find happiness together...I will be wishing for from the bottom of my heart.

Shannon seems like a bit of a slut to me. Can't she just pick one man? Why does she have to get both George and Battler? Surely, people suffering from multiple personality disorder don't try to get a spouse for each personality.

>> No.4051237

>>4051229
You forgot that she's also aiming for the Jessica route via Kanon.

>> No.4051239

>>4051229
Plus, she chooses George over Battler? This bitch must be blind, another reason why I cannot accept Shkannontrice.

At least with Jessitrice, as impossible as it seems, Kanon supposedly has good looks going on for him.

>> No.4051242

>>4051205
isnt that MOE Beato's monologue before she goes awesome ?

>> No.4051245

>>4051237
...fuck.

>> No.4051253

>>4051242
It's a flashback that is experienced by/shown to MOE Beatrice.

>> No.4051263

So the theory now is that Beatrice doesn't even exist, and is being played by Shanon and Kanon?

I thought it was confirmed that Beatrice was a real person back in like episode three. I thought Kinzo had a daughter with Beatrice, and then had a daughter with the daughter.

>> No.4051264 [DELETED] 

>>4050690
please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano
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>>4051229
Well, if each personality likes a different person, and they don't agree on which personality should be the one to get who they want... you end up having the personalities dueling each other with antique pistols loaded with one-hit-kill bullets prepared by the two demons whose domains involve love, one of which is a trap.

>> No.4051284

>>4051263
No. The current version of the theory is that Lolitrice is Shannon is Kanon is Beatrice.


-Kinzo brings lolitrice from an orphanage to be Beatrice III
-Lolitrice meets Kumasawa (Virgilia´s vessel)
-Pony theory happens (or anything that forces kumasawa to hide lolitrice from kinzo)
-Lolitrice disguises herself as Shannon and starts working at the mansion, one day she meets Battler while not in disguise, then promise happens
-Lolitrice finally abandons Lolitrice´s persona completely and becomes Shannon, then later she creates Kanon´s persona
-Suit Beato is actually Shannon´s real self awakened, it takes over completely after the "death" of the other two personas and asks Battler about his sin

>> No.4051291

>>4051237
I wonder if she can create another personality for me too. I'm in the mood to some experimenting with the same sex, as /jp/ is too wimpy for me.

>> No.4051292

>>4051263
All the signs point to no Beatrice existing.

Or rather, she did exist, that seems likely, but the one Battler met following the pony theory is not actually "Beatrice", but one of the 17 people on the island. Meta-Beatrice is simply a construct of the love this mystery person had towards Battler given form.

>> No.4051293

>>4051263
>I thought it was confirmed that Beatrice was a real person back in like episode three.

She is a real person. Just replace all instances of lolitrice with Shannon in the pony theory.

>I thought Kinzo had a daughter with Beatrice, and then had a daughter with the daughter.

Yeah.... no.

>> No.4051305

>>4051284
(It's more likely that Lolitrice always looked like Shannon, though, and simply dressed up as Beatrice at times, and probably was used as the model for the Beatrice portrait.)

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>>4051291
...Oh. Looks like i forgot the picture so the virgins here can fap to me.

>> No.4051313

>>4051284
Oh that is pretty fascinating. I haven't been following any of this so this is new to me.

But aren't Shanon and Kanon shown together on screen in tons of places all the time? How can they be one person?

>> No.4051319

>>4051306
Ange. Look, okay, you were raped as a child. That wasn't sex, that was rape. You need to seek counseling. You can't continue this self-destructive lifestyle anymore.

>> No.4051327

>>4051319
But Battler loves Ange.

>> No.4051331

>>4051291
What happened to Mammon? A delusion is fine too.

>> No.4051334

>>4051313
If Battler didn't see them together in EP1-4, it's possible to be fake. There is a reason why we never see them with Battler through 4 straight episodes, which is dozens of hours long combined. Whether it is because they are samefag or red herring is up for debate.

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Meanwhile, in the meta world

>> No.4051339

So are we just writing off the statement that Beatrice is 19 years old?

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>>4051319
It was consensual.

>> No.4051356

>>4051339
The Beatrice personality is 19 years old. If a personality can be a person, then it can be anything it wants. 19years old, 90 years old. It's nothing to a fictional construct of a mentally ill woman.

>> No.4051365

>>4051339
Shannon could have lied about her age. Alternatively, when she created Beatrice, she gave her the age of 19.

>> No.4051367

>>4051339
Confirmed that the original Beatrice is 19y.
I think Shannon is faking her age.

>> No.4051407

>>4051356
>>4051365
Being 19 years old seems a really arbitrary and specific thing to assign to Beatrice, especially when the number was stated to be important.

>> No.4051416

>>4051407
Battler happens to like slightly older women. It's no problem for a fictional construct.

>> No.4051428

The baby thing from episode 5 probably was not wrong.
And this is why Kanon mumbles something to himself after Battler helps him at the beginning of episode 1.

>> No.4051440

>>4051416
Is this stated in the flashback that he likes older women, or are you pulling that out of your ass?

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If Erika commited those murders in EP6, all I can say is wow. Ryukishi is pretty direct in misdirection; I can't help but compare with american comic writers that tend to be "meeeeh yes, I mean no, erh dunno lol".

Pieces cannot act against their natures... which means the real Erika would murder in cold blood just for the lulz.

>> No.4051458

>>4051440
Nothing about age. Only the looks and the personality.

>> No.4051461

>>4051455
She didn't think she was murdering them. She thought they were already dead.

>> No.4051469

>>4051461
she said it in red.

ALL THE 5 I DECAPITATED WERE ALIVE.

>> No.4051471

>>4051461
No. She knew she was murdering them. She was laughing about killing Rosa first between Rosa and Maria.

>> No.4051481

>>4051469
>>4051471
Well disregard that, I suck cocks. She's crazier than I thought.

>> No.4051492

>>4051205
God fucking damn it.

>> No.4051497

>>4051492
Join the club.

>> No.4051502

>>4051455
Well, considering what happened with Jessica, I think a more accurate explanation is that piece will not do something they would never do.

It's in Jessica's capacity to be an innocent girl, and a batshit killer, with Erika, she'll kill everyone if it means she wins,

>> No.4051510

give Ryuushi a break
BT was holding the story for ep6-8 in his head.

Now Ryuushi has to make everything up as he goes along

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>>4051469
>>4051471
Damn, I'm glad she was obliterated then. With her on the board, the thing would just degenerate into her sandbox and would loop for all time because she could always have the option to go into "fuck your shit" mode.

>> No.4051527

>>4051514
Actually, she was only able to do that because she didn't have detective authority for Episode 6. If she had it, she wouldn't have been able to do that because she would be violating Knox Rule 7.

>> No.4051528

>>4051510
That makes sense. So all this time when I had hoped that the author of Umineko died immediately after ep5 was released... it actually happened. Fuck.

>> No.4051532

>>4051527
Who was then, no one?

>> No.4051533

>>4051510
You just made that up.

>> No.4051536

>>4051510
This sucks.

>> No.4051539

>>4051533
No shit Sherlock.

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>>4051539
Seems like he got some people in this thread.

>> No.4051549

>>4051528

BT was the author? news to me.

>> No.4051552

>>4051510
Spoilers: BT was the ghostwriter to Umineko, Ryukishi just takes all the glory, which is why EP6 is so meh tier.

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>>4051552
>ep 6
>meh tier

>> No.4051562

BT was Ryukishi's other personality.

>> No.4051565

We were all trolled. We can all go home now.

>> No.4051571

Episode 6 had really beautiful music.
I was about to cry at one scene because of the music. And Umineko only did it to me at the first Shanon death.

>> No.4051573

>>4051562
I chortled.

>> No.4051580

>>4051532
Yeah, basically. Erika wasn't even trying to solve things in Episode 6; she wanted to trick Battler into creating a logic error.

>> No.4051584

>>4051571
I quite like engage of marionette. It's a nice combination of a slow version of happiness of marionette with Yakusoku (non-vocal, thankfully).

>> No.4051588

>>4051580
Rather, solving things wasn't her aim.

>> No.4051591

>>4051580
>she wanted to trick Battler into creating a logic error.

That's why GMs always plan for shit beforehand. Battler confirmed for shit GM tier.

>> No.4051599

Am I the only one who thinks that an ErikaxBattler relationship is still possible and would be the most beautiful union in fiction history?

>> No.4051608

Has anyone tried to play Umineko on a DS? I downloaded the converter but it took like 4 hours to convert only the backgrounds and then, my computer freezed

>> No.4051609

>>4051591
Battler DID plan things out. It's just that he was too arrogant in his position at one point and fell for a trick of Erika's, which led to a whole bunch of problems for him.

Note, however, that he could have escaped from the logic error at any time by revealing a part of Beato's heart. But that was something he refused to do.

>> No.4051612

>>4051599
No. Battler was awesome when he was telling Erika to fuck off even through his tortured, comatose state.

>> No.4051617

>>4051599
I would prefer BeatricexBattler at this point, although ErikaxBattler has always been shit and BeatricexBattler has recently become super shit.

>> No.4051619

>>4051599
HowAboutNo.jpg

>> No.4051620

>>4051617
>I would prefer BeatricexBattler...
I meant to say. "I would prefer it over BeatricexBattler"

>> No.4051622

>>4051599
Shipperdevs get out.

>> No.4051625

>>4051599
I can't even see her coming back, even though Trollukishi said she wasn't so bad.

There's a thin line with redemption, and killing five people clearly crosses that. It's too bad too, I liked her, and would totally support BattlerxErika if EP6 didn't happen.

>> No.4051626

>>4051608
Already-converted-umineko-for-the-ds link?

>> No.4051628

I think BattlerxMaria has the most logic behind it, as far as pairings go.

>> No.4051636

Can't spell Shannon and Kanon without Anon

>> No.4051638

>>4051584
I really like the decision theme, ALIVE.

>> No.4051639

>>4051625
I doubt she's coming back, considering that Bernkastel had said that she would send Erika to the worst possible Fragment if Erika failed this time. And Erika failed.

>> No.4051641

>>4051628
Logic? In my seacats? Only twisted reasoning need apply.

>> No.4051647

>>4051639
But Bern was drunk and wandering lost somewhere in the infinity when Erika lost the duel.

>> No.4051648

>>4051638
Zepar and Furfur's theme is nice, too.

>> No.4051650

Anyone know why they didn't use Hope for the OP or at least the ED in the anime?

I mean, it's basically THE song for Umineko. It even has the seagulls in the background.

>> No.4051655

>>4051647
Well, either way, with Erika now removed from the meta world and the gameboard, I doubt Battler and Beatrice will allow her back in, and considering they have absolute control over who can enter...

>> No.4051664

>>4051650
Because DEEN is incompetent.

>> No.4051671 [DELETED] 

>>4050690
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>> No.4051677

>>4051650
Because OH DESIRE!

>> No.4051679

What Battler show to us:
The cousins killing the adults with magic fights, hate and discussion between the cousins and the adults

What really happened:
They were all playing a family board game where the loser would have to pretend to be dead to scare Erika.


FUCK THAT BITCH, MAN. FUCK HER.

>> No.4051686

>>4051650
Fuck you, One-winged eagle and OH DESIRE is awesome.

>> No.4051696
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4051696

>>4051679
Hey Battler, I saw some problems with your game board, so I went ahead and fixed them for you.

>> No.4051705

>>4051696
Such a courteous rosebitch.

>> No.4051717

Battler is just under a magical spell by Beatrice, when he snaps out of it in episode 7 he would go back and save Erika and they will defeat Beatrice together once and for all.

>> No.4051720

>>4051686
Hope shits all over that crap. OH DESIRE is metalhead shit, the only good thing about it is Kinzo.

I could listen to Hope for hours, OH DESIRE gives me a migraine after 5 minutes.

>> No.4051723

Im a bit lost.

Where was it stated that pieces cant act against their nature?

>> No.4051740

Umineko anime should just play worldend dominator during all the episodes. ALL THE TIME.

>> No.4051742
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4051742

>>4051696
You forgot something.

>> No.4051747

>>4051717
At this point, I would welcome that plot twist.

>> No.4051757
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4051757

>>4051723
Never in red, but what reason would Dlanor have to lie to you? She's like the most reliable fucking character in Seacats.

>> No.4051759

>>4051677
>>4051686

GENTLEMEN. LET'S TALK ABOUT JIMANG.

HE'S BADASS, RIGHT?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI162tquWBM
HE'S BADASS.

>> No.4051766

>>4051717
I like it. It's preferable to what's going on now anyway.

>> No.4051773

>>4051757
And she also talks about the matter of trust, and how even Battler took things that were never stated in red for granted.

>> No.4051777

>>4051757
I agree. It was awesome how she told Erika that she was protecting her because she thought Erika's truths were weak, and she needed STRONGER TRUTHS.

>> No.4051781
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4051781

>>4051757

>most reliable fucking character

>> No.4051783

>>4051781
>Jessica casts Firaga
>Kyrie is defeated by boring ass character

>> No.4051786

>>4051781
Too bad she's the owner of the sisters from purgatory.

>> No.4051799

What makes me mad, is that Kanon = Shannon was planned from the beginning, as well as Jessica being in love with Kanon and George being in love with Shannon.

This family is so into lies, that those people can't even trust that *anon is the gender they claim to be.

>> No.4051810

>>4051799
Indeed. All of the Umineko characters are better off dead.

>> No.4051815

>>4051781
I'm sure this is old as fuck, but did anyone notice that Kyrie has a cross on her tie and Battler has a cross for a zipper? It kind of just caught my eye by looking at that anon's picture.

>> No.4051816

>>4051810
Well no doubt they'll all be saved in the end by miracles or the power of love or something gay. Instead of just all dying in a bomb like they should.

>> No.4051830

>>4051815
Yeah I noticed a while ago. Kyrie is into creepy cool crosses.

Which is why Battler and Juuza is her son. I say 'is' because Battler=Juuza

>> No.4051831
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4051831

>>4051815
Amakusa too

>> No.4051835

>>4051783
jessica only wins because bronove helped her. she was so boring they had to get an awesome character like bronove to help her match Kyrie in cool levels and kill her.

>> No.4051848

>>4051815
>>4051831
It's because they're all somehow related to the Sumaderas, probably.

But Battler didn't know that until recently. I guess Kyrie just buys his clothes for him, then.

>> No.4051869

>>4051810

So wait, the novel portrays these people as a dysfunctional, fucked up family yet we're supposed to like them?

>> No.4051878

>>4051869
Who doesn't love a good dysfunctional family every now and then?

>> No.4051884

>>4051869
Seems like it, aside from Battler, none of these assholes seem to deserve to be saved.

Maybe Rudolf. And Kyrie if she's not the culprit.

>> No.4051888

>>4051869
That what made The Ushiromiyas so awesome.My life would be different if i'm an Ushiromiya.

>> No.4051896

>>4051888
Yeah, you'd be dead.

>> No.4051900
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4051900

>>4051884


>aside from Battler, none of these assholes seem to deserve to be saved.

>> No.4051906

>>4051896
while wearing One Winged Eagle.That would not be so bad.

>> No.4051912

Well, with Eva and George dead, I figured letting him die would be kind of a mercy.

>> No.4051915

>>4051869
I don't know, I pretty much hated everyone except Battler, Gohda, Kyrie, and a few of the witches/demons since episode 4. Maybe they want you to hate everyone by the end, because they're actually going to have everyone be murdered and have Battler take over the family head. But I doubt it will happen since Battler is so naive to what a bunch of snakes his family is and would give up his own life before letting any of them die.

>> No.4051934

Honestly how will they be able to pull off a complete happy end in the final episode without a single person dieing. You would have to have the family assume that a particular person was indeed the killer before the 1st twilight, which is unlikely considering all of the adults and cousins only care about catching up and wont even notice this until the first deathes begin to surface.

>> No.4051939

You guys just need to take it easy. This is all just an elaborate troll effort by Beatrice in the first place.

Bernkastel and Lambdadelta are her friends, after all.

>> No.4051941

>>4051934

>Honestly how will they be able to pull off a complete happy end

They won't. Because Ryukishi said there wouldn't be one.

>> No.4051950

>>4051939
Bern hates Beatrice with a passion. Lambda said in the Episode 5 courtroom session, she'd hope that Beatrice would become her friend, but that didn't happen.

>> No.4051951

>>4051941
Forgot about that. Well at the very least I can see the six deaths from the 1st twilight occur. Sucks for them.

>> No.4051959

>>4051941
But he said Erika was a good girl too.

>> No.4051960

>>4051950
Well, Lambda didn't exactly treat Beatrice like one would treat a friend.

>> No.4051962

>>4051959
...You bring up a good point.

>> No.4051989

>>4051950

Beato put them up to saying that. Don't you see?

>> No.4051997

>>4051989
Beato final boss sounds incredibly enticing after all the bullshit that 6 showed.

>> No.4052029 [DELETED] 

Now it's been out a while, anyone want to tell me what happened with episode 6? Tried playing through it with Atlus, but the translations aren't great, and I'm too crap to understand Engrish. Couple of bits I don't get:

[spoilers]The bit in the chapel where 00 fades out, then disappears, then they start talking about the other Siestas... Did 00 die or something?

WTF happened to Battler, he's in a coma or something?[/spoilers]

>> No.4052049

Now it's been out a while, anyone want to tell me what happened with episode 6? Tried playing through it with Atlus, but the translations aren't great, and I'm too crap to understand Engrish. Couple of bits I don't get:

The bit in the chapel where 00 fades out, then disappears, then they start talking about the other Siestas... Did 00 die or something?

WTF happened to Battler, he's in a coma or something?

>> No.4052040 [DELETED] 

>>4052029
> Did 00 die or something?
No.

> WTF happened to Battler, he's in a coma or something?
He's in a catatonic state due to something Erika did.

>> No.4052056

>>4051997
We're probably going to get Bern final boss, though. And I don't really mind that too much.

>> No.4052065

Are the Siestas not in the TIPS screen for episode 6, or am I just too retarded to find them?

>> No.4052074

>>4052065
I was confused by that too, but if you complete Episode 6, you'll find them in the completed TIPS menu.

>> No.4052113

I think that Jessica is okay. Her fight scene this ep was good.

>> No.4052182

>>4052056
Bern: Final Boss in the meta-world
Human Culprit: Final Boss in the human world

>> No.4052252

Wait, wait. So... the entity known as Shkanontrice changes her (?) form depending on the "route" (Jessica, George, Battler, Maria)? That's one hell of an eroge premise.

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