/jp/ - Otaku Culture

We're not creative enough to do that.

;_;

I draw lots of anime girls. So much so that I've fallen in the pitfall of not being able to draw guys. Give me a tutorial on how to draw anime guys.

God damn that drawing was horrifying.

but my wife is among the least recognized characters of her respective series.

Your argument is invalid.

Well, I did. I'm not going to post a pic of her. I know that's what you want. In fact, there is no picture. She is in my mind. I imagine that she is with me. My imagination is so strong that I can see her. No one has seen her. She is absolutely pure.

>1:27
so eroi

>>4046325

>Implying that I didn't already fap to that whore 10 times

There OP. You happy?

>>4046282
please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano
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om thanks in advance have a nice day many hugs from tiny loli

>>4046351
Fapping.

But the personality not the looks are the important part...

>>4046351
i just fucked you're waifu

u mad?

Mai waifu's less known than most other waifus so she's a bit safer I guess. Though I wouldn't give two shits about what another Anon is doing. Since my waifu is always with me, whatever he's fapping to ain't her.

Also why would anyone want to draw their own waifu?! That would just be a normal drawing of a girl. No personality or anything attached to her. Sure you can give her one as well but where's the fun in that?

>>4046359
THIS.

Drawing anime waifus does not start with youtube videos, it does not start with deviantart searches, it does not start with "how-to's"


It starts with realism, it starts with LOOMIS.

>>4046365
Not really, she just started existing like two minutes ago. Kinda hard to grow attached to something that fast.

I've always had my own waifu. In my imagination.

>>4046370
>realism
>8 head tall people
>Everyone is a bodybuilder

Realism is a 6 & 1/2 heads tall guy with a slight paunch. That book is full of fantasy.

How about you go back to /a/?

>>4046370
Nowhere near Vitruvian man.

While we're on the drawing topic, what does anon recommend as a good resource for learning how to draw human anatomy?

>>4046424
Look at people. If you can't get someone naked for you in real life, look at pictures.

Draw porn positions too, the kind that really change the body shape. Look at pictures of people doing dynamic thing. Draw that enough and you'll get te hang of it.

>>4046415
OP here, I don't frequent /a/. I don't even watch anime or jerk off to cartoons.

I just thought you guys would be interested in this, since /jp/ is Waifu Central.

>>4046370
LOOMIS, more like HEISIG

>>4046359
You LIE.

>>4046284
I love those.
What are they called? Concha? Munieta?

>>4046417
"oh lookie, limbs that are attached to the body FROM A PIVOT POINT will rotate IN A CIRCLE. AMAZING" Don't get me wrong, the picture is great for proportions. But it won't teach you body construction, pose, line, perspective, or really anything else.

>>4046406
What? 7 heads is practically a minimum
6 heads is like a ten year old or a taller-than-average midget. In any case, head-to-height ratios are of fairly little concern. That's like one page of a 150 page book you just described.

>>4046424
Andrew Loomis - Drawing Heads and Hands
Andrew Loomis - Figure Drawing for all it's Worth
Sarah Simblet - Anatomy for the Artist
Betty Edwards - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain

Tutorial threads on /ic/ from 4chan archive are quick and easy resources that are helpful 80% of the time

All the resources you'll ever need
http://mohey.abnormisapiens.com/wiki/?n=ArtList001

though I frequently use posemaniacs.com

>How to Draw an Anime Girl

Even though I love anime, I try to avoid drawing characters I create in an anime-like style. I prefer a more "realistic" style.

>>4046466
>>4046436

Awsome, thanks alot guys.

ITT:
>duuuurp animu proportions aern't real proportions hueeerp

>>4046461
>But it won't teach you body construction, pose, line, perspective, or really anything else.
Nowhere I said it was meant to use for doing dynamic drawings. If I'm going to do it, I'm gonna look at disgusting 3D pictures. Besides, I doubt that you draw anthro for comics and shit.

>In any case, head-to-height ratios are of fairly little concern.
And here you are blabbering about proportions.

>>4046461
>7 heads is practically a minimum
You've been deluded by drawing from a book and never actually measured a living human.

Either way, it'll teach you to draw superheroes or generic fantasy. You gotta use real actual humans if you want to draw true realism.


>>4046470
Western comic style is not realism.

Do any of you try to learn to draw backgrounds or are you all a bunch of aspiring Bleach artists?

>>4046489
>Western comic style is not realism.
Yeah, I still can;t believe you could have a bust 5 times normal size and still be able to carry yourself.

Western comic art sure is realism.

>>4046481
Anime proportions and anatomy are too exaggerated. You have to start drawing real people first and then move on.

>>4046497
architecturefag here.
I draw backgrounds for a living.

>>4046489
Just to humor you, I measured the height of my head. approximately 9 inches.
To my height, that works out that I am approximately 8.19 heads tall.
Sorry, shortie, but people didnt just pull these ratios out of their asses, they work very well for realism, and anime after all is just stylized reality, so the proportions change some, but not too much.

>>4046314

>>4046489
>>4046499
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't draw in "western comic style."

Girls I draw have normal-sized breasts, and men I draw are also reasonably proportioned and don't all have huge muscles and stuff.

>>4046520
Post some of your stuff.

>>4046514
Just to be sure, a girl drew that right? It feels sort of gay reading it in some places.

>>4046540
Faggoty over-enthused immature writing spiced with emoticons is not restricted to women in a cesspit like DeviantArt

Westerners cannot draw anime because they insist on realism. Japanese are robots, they cannot create. They learn from copying existing anime and manga and refining it into their own style. That's the reason it becomes more and more exaggerated over time. It's also the only way you'll be ever to draw anything resembling an "anime" style.

So drawfags get to have their own waifus? yay!

I draw my characters 11 heads tall.
What now, bitches?

>>4046565
I'm guessing that's supposed to be some kind of demon or something, and not human.

Otherwise, lol

>>4046561
It looks awesome so who the fuck cares

>>4046314
1. Continue drawing girls
2. Give them flat chests
3. Say that they are guys

>>4046565
Without saying anything else, they would have to bend over to hit anyone.

Or wait for some protag to do a jumping overhead slash like protags tend to do.

>>4046561
>westerners cannot draw anime

Excuse me. Archlich would like a word with you.

How the fuck can you draw "anime" girls? it's not even animated. How retarded.

>>4046592
I think he meant most of them, moron.

>>4046577
Nope, it's a human.
Well, as close to human as main characters can be in Bleach, but you get the idea.

He turns into a giant bug about 10 pages or so from there.

>>4046598
"Most" of them never make the attempt in the first place.

>>4046587
But then I would become Poju.

Also
>implying my girls don't already have flat chests.

>>4046609
Most of the ones that try, geez

I like how this became a thread on drawing.

>>4046623
It was always a thread about drawing.

>>4046615
That is not a bad thing.

Learn Loomis first. Then you try to draw that shit.

>>4046636
Not really, it was a really bad attempt at a troll.

fukken masterpiece

>>4046644
Loomis sucks, stupid westerner.

>>4046651
No it wasn't, you fucking idiot.

>>4046620
Well, in my experience, most westerners trying to draw anime (take a trip to dA) make the mistake of just trying to jump straight to anime styled faces. They just try to "guess" where features on the face go, and how the body is laid out.
They do this because they don't have a fundamental understanding of anatomy or proportion, and are trying to draw "symbols" rather than 'shapes' (ie to draw a face by just put a hemicircle on top of a V and bam, anime face, like you'd be instructed to in one of the thousands of annie-may tutorials)
ie. They don't know "realism"
Knowing your realism can't cripple your anime drawings. it's just used as a springboard for pose and action and a repository of knowledge of human anatomy that is then applied in some places and ignored or altered in others when drawing anime. As before, anime is just stylized reality.

>>4046677
Read the fucking thread. It's that retard from the Christmas thread.
>>4046437

>>4046651
It was?

>>>4046677
>implying this thread wasn't about drawing
>OP post says "How to Draw an Anime Girl"

Yeah but she only loves me.

;_;

Non-regular /jp/ drawfag here. Both extreme side always fight over realism vs stylization for years to no end. It gets tiring once you read the same argument so I'll just stick to practical use.

This is my sample work of studying H2SO4's 5 head loli body proportion. Knowledge on Greek/realist ideal of 8 head; which muscles you can desize, shrink, lengthen; body structure from bones, joint position and all really helps at deciphering the stuff so you can apply the knowledge later (Cirno).

Stylization provides its own difficulty. 4 head, 3.5 head, 3 head etc isn't as simple as ctrl+t realism drawing. You need to make them looks "cute" enough in order to deliver.

>Knowing your realism can't cripple your anime drawings
They can. I sure don't want to see realism in my bkub or Rifyu comics.

>>4046698
>Knowing your realism can't cripple your anime drawings.

I have an awful experience when it comes to artist who 'try to draw' Japanese-styled characters. One time, when I had the courage to go out, I went to a comic convention in my area which had lots of cartoonists. I flipped through their portfolios and found out that those who try to draw 'anime-styled' looks much worse than 13-year-old mangaka wannabes. The drawings doesn't look like manga drawings but a fuse of styles that isn't working at all. And to think they ARE professionals who draw for big-ass comic companies.

Sometimes I feel that those who have an understanding of anatomy, proportion and the certain style they're going for can actually draw things in different styles.

You don't need to study realism before you can draw anime. Anyone who says this is a fucking idiot.

>>4046831
What is h2so4 besides sulfuric acid?

>>4046911
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=60263
http://h2so4.egloos.com/

>>4046864
Same drawfag as >>4046831 here. Started from generic weaboo path by tracing favorite artist, and fusing things along the way. Some teen artists kept doing that for years until they're literally stuck in samestyle forever.
Learning realism early is something other artist have to force upon them in order to break from that condition. See 'sameface' plaguing even Japanese popular illustrators like Aoi Nishimata.

Her works sells though. People do pay and acknowledge such sameface artist as professional. Only 'those who knows better' complains, while most of them are yet to make any financial profit.

I would draw, but I have a little problem. Every time I draw something I hate everything about it. I have a very critical eye, and I can tell some of my art is good, but I always hate what I draw for some reason. Also, I like to redraw little things that I find I want to change a little about my pictures, and it becomes an endless cycle. Any advice?

>>4046933
>while most of them are yet to make any financial profit.
Thank you for pointing that out.

>>4046946
That's what you're supposed to do. Keep fixing and getting better.

>>4046946
Learn speeddrawing. Never mess with one drawing more than one or two minutes. Switch paper or certain area in same paper after each step. After one hour session you'll get 20-40 drawings you can judge and criticize rationally so you can find out how to improve later.

Google for more details.

>>4046946
I thinks that happens to everyone, at least to me it does.
I need a lot of courage to post something I've done, always thinking you could have done better.
Anyway, you're fucked.

>>4046933
>Learning realism early is something other artist have to force upon them in order to break from that condition.
But that doesn't mean realism is an effective way to draw differently stylized characters. An artist must stick with a certain style to be recognized, just like what is happening to the likes of Aoi Nishimata. From realism, an artist can base his character designs for a certain gender or ethnicity.

Sometimes even designs derived from realism look the same.

Drawing makes me incredibly frustrated because my hands don't move the way I want them to, the pencil going further than I want or not far enough, or the wrong depth, and argh. I'm so jealous of people who can draw...

>>4047016
So am I. ;_;

>>4047002
The ideal way is to balance between personal/unique style and flexibility. If cute/moe market is abolished, Aoi Nishimata sure will have trouble looking for work. Lucky her that her style practically dictates the market somehow.

See the illustrator who did Umineko ep1-6 main paintings. That's pretty ideal.

>>4047002
Realism is NEEDED for stylization. You must have an understanding of the basics before you can modify them to your taste. Otherwise you're just going to end up with shit like this.

>>4047016
It's like any other skill. Just keeping working at it; you'll get better.

>>4047016
It's not something you're born with, you know?

Making your own waifu would just be... sad.

>Yeah, that same waifu is jerked off to by thousands of other losers.
Yeah, I know, and I don't care about it.
>You're in love with the 2D equivalent of a used whore, basically.
Does this mean that fapping to someone = having sex with that someone? Oh wow, I guess I'm not a virgin then.

>>4047016
It's like any other skill. Just keep working at it at the wrong way; you'll get stuck in that habit forever.

inb4
>250 post and 30 images omitted
/jp/, I'm disappoint.

>>4047043
not if you're retarded
i have dyspraxia ;_;

I'm so jealous of people who can write... If only I could write erotic stuff that really turns me and people on I'd write porn of my waifu nonstop for years.

>>4047058
Having a waifu is sad enough already

>>4047063
I on the other hand think its awesome. We went from a cut throat troll post to posting semantics of drawing. If thats not /jp/ in a nutshell, then i dont know what is.

>>4047058
Galatea is awesome.

>>4047039
Then how come extremely stylized drawings, those who are completely different from realism and stylized realism, 'look good'? If you ask me, character designs of Billy and Mandy look good without inclining too much into realism (though it inclines too much in design stereotypes).

>>4047074
All we did was take what he said seriously.

From waifus to /co/.

This thread is win.

I can't draw for shit, so I'm not going to go create a frankenstein waifu just yet.

We should troll /co/ once in a while too, it's the easiest board to troll.

>>4047129
No, /r9k/ is the easiest board to troll. Even if you put in the subject line "I'm trolling you faggots" people will either ignore it and argue as if you really meant your post, or they just won't see it.

>>4047071
I can write, and have written some things about my waifu and me, but I can't do erotica... Maybe it's due to lack of experience, but I can't write erotica without fearing like I'm sounding like I'm copying some cheap dime novel.

>>4047129 easiest board to troll

yeah, go find that Iron Man Republic of Hitlerstan copypasta. They fucing rage over that

>>4046831
>ctrl+t
what?

/co/mrade here. You're comparing yourselves to us?

Really?

> this thread

>>4047218
You're implying that there's something wrong with spending Christmas with the ones you love. Don't families everywhere do the same?

>>4047226
usually we spend christmas with the ones who love us

>>4047231
No one loves us better than waifu.

>>4047231
So you don't love those that love you? What a selfish brat you are.

>>4047242
The words of a creepy stalker

>>4047260
We don't stalk creepy 3D creatures they call women.

>>4047242
I believe nobody loves us better than our waifu.

>>4047218
I always thought /co/ did the same thing. I just thought it was "Penny is my wife" instead of "Relm is my wife" or "Milfie is my wife."

>>4046370
>>4046466
>>4047039
/ic/ is THAT way. >>>

>>4047296
/ic/ is just a bunch of stuckup pro-realism old artfags who venerates classic fine arht. Those kind of stuff already lost its meaning for us in modern digital era.

I suck at drawing but this thread made me curious.
Let's say someone wants to get into drawing, what stuff should he avoid at first ?

>>4047287 I just thought it was "Penny is my wife"

>>4047354
Let's think positive.

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain is essential for unlearning the stuff most adults think is drawing. Do the entire book. After you've finished that the rest is mechanics.

>>4047354
Other people's nonconstructive opinions, perhaps?

>>4047354
Avoid making excuses. Avoid drawing what you >think< something looks like. Avoid being lazy. Draw whatever you're not good at over and over until you are.

>>4047354
Read more on why people do art, you can justify yourself only when you already read so many excuses. Avoid drawing what people >think< something looks like. Balance between discipline and drawing when you're in the mood. Draw whatever you're good at over and over until you are.

>>4047218
Last time I went to /co/ there was furry porn on the front page.

>>4047373
Everyone wants to know the secret to drawing well -- until they hear it.
make it a more regular habit than eating

>>4047361
You know, that girl from Inspector Gadget.

>>4047407
No, the expression on her face means "you haven't been to /co/ since about 2008, have you"

>>4047434
Well, somebody should teach them the wonder of cartoon wives.

>>4047465
Oh god, when I was 8 years old, I used to daydream about Penny.

Hey OP.
So if someone faps to the girl you love, she becomes damaged goods?

I am not following you.

>>4047465
She can inspect my gadget, if you know what I mean.

Seriously, my Ipod's been on the fritz since November.

DRAWING YOUR OWN WAIFU IS LIKE FAPPING WITH YOUR OWN HAND, THATS WHY WE LIKE WAIFUS FROM OTHER ARTISTS

Yeaaaaah

>>4047845
That's not original!