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EP6
Shannon is in a room
Kanon is in another room
Both existences are confirmed in red at the same time

So essentially, the only theory that it appears episode 6 didn't punch full of holes in some way is the bomb, so far correct?

And, no one can use Shannon's name besides the person themselves.
No one can use Kanon's name besides the person themselves.

what is this i don't even.jpg

>>4040222
Just so you know, Kanon wasn't confirmed to be in the other room. What was confirmed was that "everybody else" was in the other room. Kanon's name was not explicitly stated.

...That's what I remember, at least. I might have the rooms mixed up.

inb4 Killer7-esque stuff

>>4040249
Shannon and Kanon share the same body. They are the same person, even if they have their own individualities.

Does that work?

"everybody else" means EVERYONE no exceptions.
But i dont know who the red is written so eh...

>>4040241
Bomb still don't explain everything. Rosa and Maria were running away from something in Ep.2 and police classified Rokkenjima case as an accident.

has it been confirmed anywhere jessica's love for kanon is real?

>>4040282
So essentially Episode 6 is pretty much:
Ryukishi sees all your theories and rapes all of them then.

>>4040281
There are two possibilities. Either Kanon was in the room in addition to Shannon, and just happens to share a name with someone else in the room, or Shannon = Kanon.

>>4040295
Ironically enough, the core of the Pony Theory was pretty much confirmed, even if all the extra stuff about it wasn't.

Just give me a few more days to flesh out my X=Kumasawa=* theory guys, and we'll solve Umineko in no time.

>>4040327
Which means that Beatrice is either Kanon or Shannon, or both if Kanon = Shannon.

>>4040389
not possible.
Battler saw Shannon's very dead body and then "Beatrice" at the end of EP 4

Remember that Virgilia is Beatrice's teacher and Virgilia = Kumasawa. Therefore Beatrice = whoever was Kumasawa's apprentice.

>>4040410
You meant at the end of EP2, right?

Fuck this Shkanon shit. I'm so tired of discussing the same thing over and over. Something entirely different:

Why aren't we shown the 3rd to 9th Twilight anymore? This is Ryukishi's way of telling us that they never actually mattered and only the 1st Twilight was really important?

>>4040410
He sees her in both EPs but i think he was drunk in the 2nd.

>>4040426
All twilights are pointless. NEXT TOPIC.

Ryu07 said many people already figured out Umineko.

So I ask: where the hell are those people?

>>4040458
pony believers

>>4040458
Me.

>>4040458
Keeping their mouths shut or they don't realize they've figured it out.

The closed room of the end of episode 6 was already solved and can be done easily with Sh/Kanon(trice).

>>4040469
Please elaborate, good sir.

>>4040410
He saw Beatrice first, then Shannon's body. She might have commited suicide after this whole sin thing.

>>4040411
Shannon was brought in when she was 6.
No family, no education, somebody had to take care of her and it sure wasn't Natsuhi.

>>4040426
He stated that those who know can predict the order of deaths after the first twilight.....so, yeah.

>>4040499
Actually he said that they can predict "what happens in the second twilight and onwards" or something. That doesn't necessarily mean there are deaths, even though there probably are. It could be that they "predict" it because they know no more deaths can occur.

>>4040499
But those who have figured it out might as well stop reading. Why cater to the people you can't suprise, you can't keep in suspense anymore?

>>4040466
Well that part was basically screamed correct at the end of ep4. The real question is if Beatrice is Jessica(unlikely), Kanon, or Shannon. Who is the mastermind: Kinzo's freak will, Kyrie, or the servants. Also what was Battler's sin that Beatrice screamed about.(Did he promise to take her with him off the island, or is she just that sexually frustrated and pissed that he hasn't stuck his dick into her yet?)

>>4040513
wordplay even on interviews ?
Ryu is slowly approaching KyoAni's level of trolling.

George and Jessica kill each other in episode 4 because they learn about ShKanon and want him/her for themselves.
Lesbian rage vs Creepy virgin.

>>4040530
Or maybe we're just reading too deep into this.

Ryukishi, the master of mindscrews.

>>4040541
Na, Shkanontrice killed them so Battler wouldn't know that she cheated on him.

>>4040530
Don't forget that he stated in an interview between Episodes 5 and 6 that he didn't think Erika was a bad person, just that she doesn't choose her words right.

>>4040582
Oh wow.

>>4040563
>Shkanontrice
you mean ShkanonJessitrice right ?

>>4040615
Jessica is just a delusional lesbian, she isn't Beatrice.

>>4040615
No, because Jessitrice is Jessica = Beatrice. The new hip theory is Kanon = Shannon = Beatrice.

Anyone have any idea of the theories going on at 2ch now?

>>4040632

Gohda=Kanon=Hideyoshi

>>4040632
Magical Gohda Chef the Endless Warlock

>>4040632
Shkannon

>>4040632
Mostly arguing about Shannon = Kanon thing.

紗音＝嘉音＝ベアト
2ch is at the same level as /jp/

>>4040769
lol'd

We all know Georges first love is either Jessica, Battler, or Rosa.

>>4040837
...wut?

The thing that bothers me is that all of the evidence for Shkannon in this episode comes from a meta subplot, but according to that meta subplot, Shannon killed Kanon to be with George, so there can't be any of that persona flipping bullshit when Kanon went to rescue Battler.

>>4040873
Yes, but ultimately, Beatrice was the one who actually won.

>>4040769
Actually, I've been wondering this for a while. Are Japanese theories much different from stuff we come up with?

>>4040769
Does that say shannon = kanon = beatrice? If so, I lol'd

>>4040927
It says Shannon=Kanon=Beato to be exact.

>>4040903
<No>.

>>4040955
<Good>

Hey guys. Did EP 6 ever explain that "gruesome truth" about the Golden Land that R07 mentioned he left out in EP 5?

>>4040986
Not really, as far as I've seen from what's posted.

>>4040986
Well he said there would be a lot of red about it in episode 6.

You know what had the most red?The closed room with Battler and Kanon that Shkannon is necessarily to solve.

>>4040837
lolwut?
battler?

>>4040962
I'd give Erika my family ring, if you know what I mean.

And I mean my penis.

>>4041164
Me too.

>>4041178

SAUCE