/jp/ - Otaku Culture

PEOPLE LIVE FOR LOVE

THE WORLD EXISTS BECAUSE OF LOVE

AAH THE POWER OF LOVE IS SUCH A SPLENDID THING

EVERYTHING EXISTS BECAUSE OF LOVE

ZEPAR

For some reason, I just want to hug those two.

FURFUR

WE ARE THE GREAT DEMONS WHO RULE LOVE

WITHOUT LOVE IT CAN NOT BE SEEN

BEATO THAT'S RIGHT

So fabulous...

WITH THE POWER OF LOVE ANY NUMBER OF MIRACLES CAN HAPPEN

Dlanor kill them

So is that actually what they like?

IT CAN NOT BE SEEN WITHOUT LOVE

can't believe theyre real..
atleast in OPs pic it made them look decent.
thank god for fanart

SILLY HATS EVERYWHERE

>>4033898
This. They seem like a fucking joke no matter how I look at it.

DLANOR

>>4033906
They are a joke, really. They have no serious role.

>>4033932
Then they shouldn't exist. Oh wait, they don't.

WELL

>>4033942

You do not EXIST.

FURFUR IT LOOKS LIKE WE MUST BE GOING NOW

YES ZEPAR AS LONG AS LOVE CALLS WE MUST PICK UP

B-BEATO

BLARrAGHHHhh

>>4033955
ZEPAR backwards is RAPEZ.

Please tell me a scene plays out like this in Ep6.

<GOOD> We did it Dlanor!

Are they there to show how CRAYZEH the 72 demons are?

I hope ryukishi somehow manages to make all 72 demons show up before Umineko is over.

DLANORRR

This is all happening because Dai took over

>>4033963
I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK KINZO

>>4033983
Dear god, that would be terrible.

...I LOVE YOU DLANOR A KNOX

>>4033990
You mean Ryukishi08

>>4033994
>>4034002
>>4034005

I giggled.

I'm feeling lazy, if someone would make an image of the thread minus the outfielders then I'll answer any episode six questions you have.

>>4034099
Did you read it in Japanese or with ATLAS?

>>4034099

>>4034099

1.Does Battler Sleep?
2.Does Battler Eat?
3.Does Battler Poop?
4.Does Erika Sleep?
5.Does Erika Eat?
6.Does Erika get married to Battler?

>>4034099
Is Erika used goods?

>>4034154
>1.Does Battler Sleep?
It is not known
>2.Does Battler Eat?
Based on the episode 6 evidence, he seems to be adverse to eating.
>3.Does Battler Poop?
Because of the former, probably not.
>4.Does Erika Sleep?
For once.
>5.Does Erika Eat?
Yes.
>6.Does Erika get married to Battler?
Almost, she married him while he was stuck in a mental closed room, because by exchanging rings of marriage she'd get the family head ring and thus be realm lord. Didn't go quite as planned for her.

>>4034160
Confirmed.

>>4034162
I heard there was a part in which Erika told Dlanor she loved her, or told Dlanor about a past relationship. What exactly was this?

>>4034099
Is Beatrice really Shannon? Or is it possible she could be someone we haven't been introduced to yet?

I admit, I lol'd, well played.

>>4034171
Erika talks about a past relationship where she found much evidence she loved a person, and much evidence they loved her, but no evidence they weren't cheating on her. It's a quote from a Bernkastel poem.

>>4034172
There's no proof she is actually Shannon. However, evidence suggests she isn't Jessica.

Why does Ryu always choose the most painful colors to look at for his characters?

>>4034162
Aw, so she didn't want to get in his pants?

>>4034186
But it's pretty much proven she isn't a Beatrice III, right?

>>4034162

>because by exchanging rings of marriage she'd get the family head ring and thus be realm lord

Well that makes little to no sense. Why bother with the ring if you were the one who denied rightful ownership of it? Jeez.

>>4034181

inb4 that person was Battler.

>>4034199
I don't think there's actual proof in that. Back in episode 1 Bern says Meta-Beato is a personification of the game itself and may be several people, or not a person at all. She is a "rule" of the world. However, that doesn't mean there isn't a real human Beato who is Beatrice III by the pony theory.

>>4034199
I don't think there's actual proof in that. Back in episode 1 Bern says Meta-Beato is a personification of the game itself and may be several people, or not a person at all. She is a "rule" of the world. In episode 6 this is fortified. However, that doesn't mean there isn't a real human Beato who is Beatrice III by the pony theory.

>>4034197
No, she didn't. To start with, the whole thing was Bern's idea, but Erika soon liked it when she realized what it meant. At the end, Beato had to crash the wedding, debate with Erika over the closed room to free Battler. Then Beato married him.

>>4034238
But EP6 makes it sounds like even if Beatrice does exist as a human Beatrice III, she physically looks completely different and probably acts a bit different, too. Which makes me wonder who the hell the person Battler sees in EP4 is.

>>4034238
Someone created Beatrice in the image of Battler's ideal woman to love Battler in their stead, as they couldn't anymore and were basically moving on instead of continuing to wait for his promise. Lots of emphasis on "You are not me. I am not you. You cannot be seen by anyone, but I can see you, people can see you if they have love blah blah blah."

Interpret as you will.

>>4034252
About that. Isn't it kind of convenient that this image they created exactly matches the Beatrice seen in the portrait?

They like to teach herbivore men the pleasure of cumming inside.

/jp/ has a chance with them.

>>4034252
that person is a dick/slut probably.i don't like that idea at all.HERE IS A 2D DRAWING I MADE FOR YOU WHICH IS WHAT YOUR IDEAL WOMAN IS...LOVE HER FOR ME, K?KTHXBYE

>>4034252

So... Shannon.

>>4034262
Didn't Battler actually reference the portrait when talking about what kind of girl he would like? I thought he did, but that doesn't make sense with the timeline, since he would have first saw it this year.

>>4034263
I want the trap.

>>4034271
And if it was this year the conversation took place, (1986, that is) it would pretty much confirm that Beatrice is Shannon.

>>4034271
Yeah, that doesn't work. The portrait was only put up 2 years ago, right? And I'm pretty sure it was mentioned no one knew what Beatrice looked like before then.

The more I get spoiled about this episode, the more depressed I get and the less I like it.

>>4034271
I don't remember him talking about the portrait, but maybe I missed it, idk.

>>4034246
Oh. I guess reading all those Rifyu comics made me too amicable to Erika shipping.

>>4034282
I probably got it wrong, but I thought he referenced Jessica, then the portrait. Probably not.

>>4034277
Nope, pretty sure the conversation was 6 years ago.

>>4034287
He definitely talked about Jessica, but the portrait thing wouldn't make sense. The flashback had to have been six years ago, and there was no portrait then.

>>4034281

You'll forget it all soon enough. It's going to be a long time untill Episode 6 is translated.

>>4034300
he'll then get depressed again when he reads it translated.

>>4034246
But how will Erika learn the pleasure of being cummed inside now?

>>4034314
She won't.

>>4034318
Why did this story become so grimdark depressing?

I assume Battler already knew this whole thing since he already reached the truth, right?

>>4034314
"So, just as I was saying, solving this riddle wasn't about the gold, at least for me. No, my pleasure is something much, much mo--"

THUD

"-!!! What was that for?! You bru--"

THUD

As you violently drive your fist for the second time in Erika's face, you can finally feel like a good spot has been hit. For the first time in the past minutes, her annoying, obnoxious voice is silenced.

Her slender, fragile body quickly gives in, and she conveniently lands in the nearby sofa. But you know Erika would not let it end with something like this. You know very well this curveless and light body would not hold back the strong-willed girl Erika was.
Somehow managing to stand up, she covers her nose and asks in a dry voice that would almost be funny, weren't you so serious.

"A-Anonymous, have you lost your mind? We finally found the gold! Just as we leave this room, you are the new head!"

>>4034336

Yeah, the problem now is that we the readers don't know the whole thing, which ep 7 will show us.

>>4034337
But you won't let her finish. After all, you have grown tired of this girl. Her irritating tone, her manners, her arrogance. All of this led you to decide. You are going to violate Erika, right here, right now.

She notices this, and suddenly her expression contorts into the face of someone who just met a lion in the kitchen. She realizes that Anonymous-san, that calm and self-contained man is now after her. She tries to scream, but you forcefully cover her mouth with your left hand.

"Let me go! Let me go you filthy thing!", she screams in the brief moments she manage to break from your hand. But it's no use. You have the advantage.

Carefully, you start to undress her with your right hand. The curves of her shoulders are soft and slim, making a excellent apéritif for what's coming next.
As you keep taking her dress off, you notice something. She wasn't wearing a bra. Of course, such things aren't needed for a girl with a body like her's, but this only works as a spice to make the main dish even more interesting.

"So what? I don't like wearing them, so what?! Nobody cares anyway, why should I care?! Let me go--!"

>>4034341

She starts screaming in that obnoxious way again. It had the surrealistic feeling of a meal that was gracefully asking to be eaten. So you had no further options beside granting that wish. With a last and stronger movement, you finish ripping her dress apart. This, however, makes her fall back to the bed.

Erika's nudity lies almost fully exposed before you now. Her slim waists and tender breasts are revealed in the dim golden light of the VIP room. The only thing that lies in your path, are the white, small panties she wears.

"Go away, you useless piece! J-Just die and leave me be!!"

As she finishes speaking those words with a crying voice, you feel a sharp pain on your knees. Kicking you with all her remaining might, she struggles in vain, for with doing this, she just served the main course.

You grab her panties and start dragging them towards you...

>>4034341

>>4034344
Doesn't this pasta end there?

>>4034340
But what about this Aurora who want to know the answers to the point of making Bernkastel the new Game Master?Is it because Battler refuse to show the truth?

>>4034354

Hanyuu is basically us. We are making Bern continue the game. We are the ones that will watch as the Ushiromiya family gets brutally killed in the next episode, just to satisfy our knowledge.

>>4034314
SHE IS NOT VIRGIN, TIM. WAKE UP.

>>4034331
Because BT is gone. Also, Beato is dead for good. Battler pretty much needs Beato to live. She's part of him, for better or for worse.

Umineko is now tsundere. The grimdark makes the badassery of next episode even cooler.

you know an umineko episode is bad when the things make you rage more are two heroins being confirmed as unvirgin.

>>4034367
Erika and....?

>>4034369
Ange. But i'm not sure.

>>4034372
Is it because she said she hates virgins?Is that even true...

>>4034372
How do you know Erika isn't a virgin? She probably just held hands with her former partner. She is pure.

>>4034376
True. But not "hate", she find male virgins creepy.

>>4034376
I thought Au called her a virgin.

>>4034380
That slutting whore. I'm deleting my Ange folder.

>>4034376
It was cool when Rosa said it, I liked her a lot more as a result. But where does Ange get off saying that? She hasn't experienced the world in any meaningful capacity.

>>4034378
One of her complaints is how her boyfriend gave her the "Sorry, i slept." excuse.

>>4034389
"Sorry, i slept"?

Was Rosa ever confirmed for not being a culprit? I'm kind of leaning towards Rosa as the culprit with Nanjo/Shanon as accomplices.

>>4034393
Sleeping during sex? Sleeping around? I have no clue either. >>4034389 please elaborate.

>>4034393
double meaning.
sleeping without sex.
or just
not going to appointments. Oversleep.

>>4034411
In other words, they were going to the park to hold hands, he didn't turn up, and he said "sorry, I slept in"?

Like I said, she is pure.

>>4034393
she wanted to have sex but he went to sleep early instead

>>4034421
i prefer this one.

After episode 5:
Natsuhi >> Rosa > Kyrie > Eva

After episode 6:
Natsuhi >>>>>>>>>> Rosa >> Kyrie = Eva

And Natsuhi only had like, 20 lines. But oh shit, she was moe. Kyrie is low because terrible taste in men.

>>4034436
Natsuhi was better when she was friends with Beato & co. When she showed up this time I was just wanting her to shut up and die already.

Erika has been violated by Anonymous. She is not pure.

>>4034436
>Kyrie=Eva
>Kyrie is married to Rudolf, yet has bad taste in men

>>4034452
Fuck no, Rudolf is a manwhore.

And Evatrice said many things that made my dick hard this episode.

>>4034436
WROOOOOOOOOOOOONG.Rudolf is pretty cool guy.I could see why Kyrie is obsessed with him.

>>4034468
I agree. Actually, he's the best uncle. Krauss is nice, but he's also a bit of a bully to his younger siblings, and he's stupid. Hideyoshi is annoying with his faked kansai accent, and why would he want to marry Eva? He's also probably the culprit. And he's fat. Rudolf is the best out of those three. Him crying over Battler's body was very ;_;.

>>4034477
Let's not forget even George acknowledged Rudolf was cute.

>>4034484
George is a fat faggot.

THIS THRED SUCKS

Sorry but i hate the whole "alpha male playboy oh look i am so cool i hit chicks" kind of man/character. So yes, Liking Rudolf = Shit taste in men.

>>4034498
I like him because he seems like the most normal out of the whole family. Sure he's a bit of a ladies man and a manwhore, but aside from that he seems the most chill out of the whole cast.

>>4034504
No. He is a cocksucker, Battler is absolutely right. Walking around making fart jokes is not appropriate behavior for a 40+ year old man.

>>4034504
I'm pretty sure the most normal of the Ushiromiyas is Maria.

>>4033841

Zepar is mai waifu

>>4034516
That's the male

>>4034520
I'm okay with this.jpg

>>4034513
The autistic?

>>4033990
wtf was a musician doing helping to write a story?

is the redhead or the bluehead the male? i keep getting told 2 different things.

>>4034535
It's alright, when they bend over they both have holes

>>4034527

>>4034528
Dai basically makes new songs for Ryuukishi but in exchange he gets to suggest what kind of plot occurance they could be used for, many of these go through.

>>4034535
Aren't they both male demons, who are female in Umineko? Like Gaap being female, Gaap is a male demon.

However, the one who is associated with being a shota rapist and shit is Zeparu, the blue one.

Anyone have a shoop of Erika saying "Feels <good>, man?"

>>4034540
Pretty sure it works the other way around, bro. 07 tells him a rough plot outline and he makes the music to fit.

>>4034543
no wonder her name is Rapez.

>>4034543
Tip> The blue one is a bokukko.

>Erika isn't a virgin

What? I thought she said she finds relationships stupid in EP5.

>>4034555
her boyfriend cheated.

>>4034555
In episode 6 she is used goods.

Ryuukishi seems to enjoy making everyone used goods. And he makes them all hate virgins, too. Is he trying to say something?

>>4034564
He's in the self-hating stage of grief.

>>4034564
1. he probably thinks it's funneh to make fun of virgins.
and/or
2. he's doing it because a large number of readers are female.

How do Piece Battler in EP6 commit suicide?

>>4034570

The fuck does sex have to do with you-know-who?

>>4034564
Even if she had a boyfriend she could still not be used goods. More like returned goods. Refurbished, if you will.

>>4034573
Hanging himself on the door.
Just kidding.

>>4034579
Refurbished goods are the worst.A lot worst than used goods sometimes.

>>4034573
He doesn't really commit suicide. It's said in red that they didn't die by anything other than homicide.

But it seems like they didn't die of homicide either. Just like in episode 5, they weren't really dead. Actually, Erika cut off their heads when she found the bodies to make sure they were dead. She did this for everyone, except Battler. At the end of the first twilight Battler would have still been alive.

>>4034572
Does he have a large number of female readers? That's surprising.

Personally I'd like to think its his revenge against the otaku crowd that reduced Higurashi into OMG KILLER LOLIS!!!!

>>4034576

What the fuck does Lord Voldemort have to do with Umineko?

>>4034594
TWISTED LOGIC GO

RYUKISHI WAS SHOWN TO BE BALD AT THE PREVIOUS COMIKET

VOLDEMORT WAS BALD

ERGO RYUKISHI WANTS TO KILL HARRY POTTER

THAT'S ACTUALLY ALL I HAVE SO FAR

>>4034587
>She did this for everyone, except Battler.
Deredere~

>>4034587

she cuts off their friggen heads?!

>>4034587
>Erika cut off their heads when she found the bodies

w t f

>>4034576
>>4034570
>>4034594
what the fuck am i reading

>>4034590
Female readers who WUV KANON-KUN~!~!^_)__^

>>4034607
That is the primary reason I promote Shkannon.

>>4034602
Yes.
>>4034604
There was the possibility that they faked their deaths, so she cut off their heads to make sure.

>>4034587

>Actually, Erika cut off their heads when she found the bodies

"Well if you weren't dead, you are now!"

>>4034612
(And it was even stated in red that they were alive before she did so)
So probably, they were playing a prank on her. And she killed them.

>>4034604

Oh yeah get this,

The plot of this game that Battler wanted to make was that everyone got tried of the arrogant missy Erika who bragged about her superior brain and detective skills so the whole family got together to create a murder prank to outsmart Erika. On the first twilight six people pretended to be dead, and so that they're comfortable they all died on beds or sofas in well a/c'd rooms. Erika, because she doesn't have the detective authority this game and can not confirm whether they are dead or not, decides to cut off their heads so she can use the red to say they all really died, she does this everyone except Battler. When Meta-Battler foud out you bet there were alot of UuuuuuwwwooOooOooooOooooo's.

>>4034616
<good>

>>4034616
>So probably, they were playing a prank on her. And she killed them.
And Ryukishi said she isn't evil.

So Jessica don't really kill Kyrie?It is Erika?!

>>4034616
After all the shit she did to them and Maria bullying, i wouldn't doubt that. And even Rosa would help them with that.

So since Ange hates male virgins, doesn't that mean that not only is she not a virgin, Battler isn't? After all, she is a brocon.

No matter Beato was so pissed.

>>4034613

oh erika you crazy bitch.

So since Ange hates male virgins, doesn't that mean that not only is she not a virgin, Battler isn't? After all, she is a brocon.

No wonder Beato was so pissed.

Wtf ange isn't a virgin?

>>4034635
>After all, she is a brocon.
She isn't.

>>4034623

It gets better, Rosa and Maria were in the same room pretending to be dead, so Erika went out of her to cut Rosa's head off before doing the same to Maria, smiling and laughing the whole time.

>>4034607

Fuck Joshua. Dude doesn't exist.

So what about the husbandos gathering guns and trying to hunt the culprits?!WTF MAN.I THOUGHT GEORGE KILLED EVA AND JESSICA KILLED KYRIE.NOT ERIKAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4034623
Not to mention Erika not declaring herself the detective also allowed to her to technically be the culprit, since she killed them.

None of that must have happened though because Erika doesn't exist.

>>4034616
Normal people would reveal their prank in a situation like that.

>>4034661

No it happened, because she is confirmed to be in various rooms on the island in red.

>>4034658
The husbandos might not have known. It was said in red that Rudolf, Krauss, Hideyoshi and Gohda all had no relation to those murders, but since they weren't "murders" I suppose they might have. Sadly, that might have been an act too. I wish Rudolf crying over Battler's dead body was real. ;_;

>>4034642
Episode 6 is a blatant BattlerxBeato shipping.
Ryu discarded all the competition and created a new moe moe Beato.

>>4034661
Erika does exist, but only in episodes 5 and 6. Before the episodes, she doesn't exist in the first place. She's a made up character by Featherine who was placed in her stories.

>>4034647
That's it. There is no redemption for this bitch.
If R07 tries to shove some shit down our throats, I'm going to rage.

>>4034623
Oh wow, why is everyone saying that this episode sucks? This is hilarious and awesome.

Why doesn't she do it to Battler?

I really thought Jessica killed Kyrie and George killed Eva..not Erika..

>>4034682
Throughout the whole episode, Erika is just as much a bitch as she ever was. No sign of R07 making her good. She was trying to be sympathic, but that was all an act to trick meta Battler into giving her some leeway.

>>4034682

Why the fuck were people baawing over her being banished? WTF?

>>4034676
Moe Beato is BOOORING though. Trolldere Beato is the best.

>>4034676
Beato doesn't exist though, so what an ass thing to ship, why is Ryukishi so shitty?

>>4034683
>Why doesn't she do it to Battler?
She wanted to trick meta Battler into creating an unsolvable situation, in which case the game becomes invalid and she wins. For that, she needed him to be alive.

I am glad Erika died in the end.

>>4034684
Jessica killing Kyrie and George killing Eva are both fantasy scenes. They use magic. Didn't really happen. In reality, they faked their deaths and then Erika killed them to make sure they were dead.

In addition, the other fantasy killings were Beato killing Natsuhi, Kanon killing Rosa, Shannon killing Maria and Battler killing Battler, but that one wasn't shown.

>>4034623

Holy shit, the episodes get more HAHAHAAH OH WOW as they come. Keep it up, Ryu. Dont stop at 7.

>>4034706
but those fantasy scenes brings lots of clues, correct?

>>4034706
I wanted to see Battler killing Battler.

What the fuck? What's with R07's people faking deaths on the last 2 games. If this applies to the previous games, honestly, that'd be a piece of shit development.

Man should stop solving things in such a shitty fashion. Also. Shaknon? A bomb? Are you fucking kidding me? And he wrote about trust between the reader and the writer? I'm sorry, but in my opinion, unless all of this is one gigantic troll, that's all bullshit.

>>4034711
Yes, some interesting points like that the one Rosa co-signed for was actually Maria's father, and that Kyrie would have killed Asumu if she hadn't died.

>>4034623
Ahaha, oh god. So I guess this means Erika is the culprit in Episode 6?

>>4034711
Kyrie said the 7 sisters of purgatory are her toys.

Gaap is probably Maria's Rose.

Virgilia is Kumasawa.

The same thing all over again.

>>4034714
Yeah, he needs to stick to shit like EP5, he's lacking in the constructing a mystery deal.

At least when it comes to adding in the supernatural.

>>4034714
Those are all just theories.
But with things going on they are, i wouldn't doubt some of those become truth.

>>4034714
In the earlier episodes some deaths were confirmed right after they happened. So no, this doesn't apply to all of them. Rosa and Maria in episode 2 is a good example. Not only was that confirmed right after it happened, it was even stated in red that the cause as death was what Nanjo said it was.

It's probably only episodes 5 and 6 because of Erika. Also, in episode 5, Krauss was really killed after talking on the phone, so that was neither a bomb nor a faked death.

Wait if Erika had no detective authority then who was the detective? Battler again?

Shanon and Kanon being two but acting together for love makes sense to me.

>>4034735

No one. The only time there was a detective was episode 5 with Erika.

>>4034735
No one declared themselves as detective.

>>4034587
>>4034623
Holy fucking shit.

Erika was the detective. She just couldn't use her supahpowers as in episode 5.

>>4034739
Wait, Battler wasn't detective in the first four games?

Well fuck, its ALL unreliable narration then, huh?

>>4034739
I'm sure Dlanor said in red Battler had been the detective in the first 4 episode. The whole "detective authority" is most likely something R07 came up with later,

>>4034746
Battler was the detective. There's red text for that.

>>4034746
Ryukishi is incompetent, just roll with the punches.

>>4034746
I read somewhere that Beatrice was the narrator for those episodes.

>>4034754
No dude. BT is dead. You have no idea about the suffering!

>>4034757
HE CAN SUMMON HIS LOST LOVE ON HIS OWN TIME

I've got a question about Beatrice. I've read that, n EP6, it was said/hinted that Beatrice doesn't have a human counterpart, but that she was created by someone to become Battler's ideal woman, or something like that. Is that how it is? When and how was this stated/hinted?

>>4034647
>>4034623
The Ushiromiya Family: Real Fucking Mature People.

Seriously, a random stranger starts acting like a bitch so they make up a game of life and death. I mean just what.

Hey /jp/

What was Erika's final pathetic blue truth about the disappearing corpses in EP5? I can't wrap my brain around it.

Hang on, so is Erika the culprit is 6 then?
Then again, Episodes 3-6 didn't actually happen right? If they're all just stories, Erika never existed and couldn't have ever been the culprit.

>>4034766

We don't know for sure but there are multiple "Beatrice" so far. The first one is Kinzo's mistress. The second Beatrice is mostly likely the daughter of the first one but Rosa kills her. Now we have this third Beatrice who is created as the ideal woman for Battler.

>>4034768
This.

Erika is a bitch and all, but the fuck is this shit. I mean seriously.

fuck im kinda glad they got imploded by a bomb.

>>4034768
Trolling runs in their genes.

>>4034766
Beatrice has a human counterpart. It's revealed in a big dramatic flashback when Moetrice is questioning why she loves Battler. However, her human counterpart goes on about how she and Beatrice are now separated and different people, because they "can't love Battler" anymore and yes, she assigns the traits of Battler's ideal woman onto her (blonde and bouncy, etc)

You could probably either read this as it being Shannon moving on with George, or--perhaps that the human Beatrice is dead. Or something else I haven't thought of.

>>4034778
>Now we have this third Beatrice who is created as the ideal woman for Battler.

I know this much, but who did that? Or, who said Beatrice was created as Battler's ideal woman? Was that said/shown in a flashback? Was it said by Battler? Featherine? Ange?

>>4034780
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Considering they had no way off the island, why would they even do that?
I mean, what did they think her reaction would be?
"OH ALL THESE DEAD PEOPLE I'M SO SORRYYYYY"
What the hell were they planning to do after?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT

>>4034770
They are stories made by someone who knows the truth, though. So it's not like you should disregard them just because they might not have really happened. And I think there was the possibility that Featherine actually just wrote down what she saw in different kakera, so anything she wrote was real after all. Anyway, Ange's future stems from episode 3, so how can episode 3 be fake? It was episode 3 Ange talking to her after all.

Oh, so...

Episode 1 is the only true one.
Episodes 2-6 are made up shit that had the same end of episode 1.
The meta world now makes sense. And the bomb theory too.

>>4034768

Well to be fair they just wanted Erika to shit her pants over a mystery she couldn't solve. It's not like they were actually killing anyone..... until Erika decided to start chopping off their heads.

Wait how does Erika get away with chopping people's heads of for christ sake. Surely one of the others is going to say something about that?

>>4034770

All games are stories.

The Game Master is a storyteller. The opponent is the audience. Because of Erika's TIPS, her existence on the island can neither be confirmed nor denied, thus she can be entered or removed from the story/game as seen fit.

How Battler was able to do this without Erika noticing is something I can't comprehend right now.

So wait.

How the hell does she just cleanly chop off a head? She has to be like 100 pounds tops, she's not a fucking RIP AND TEAR character. And if she saws them off, how is she able to keep them from trying to run away from the gaping wound she just inflicted on them?

And what about the blood spatter, her body would be covered in blood once she hit the carotid artery. Goddamn you Ryukishi, this shit is stupid.

>>4034795

Do we have proof that it was EP3? All we know is that Eva survived Rokkenjima.

It would be so like Ryukishi to troll us that way. EP7 Eva is the only one who survives again.

>>4034798
But why the fuck did they do that to begin with. She's a shipwreck victim I mean damn. What is the point of trolling a random girl whose probably not even 16 years old. Just really fucking mature Ushiromiya Family.

>>4034802

She was alone with the victim in the room pretending to be dead. They wouldn't even know she was going to chop off her head until their head was gone. Except for Maria, she knew her mommy got killed by the crazy bitch. Maybe she even tried to fight back or something, but either way she also died.

>Erika
>culprit

What about Knox's saying the culprit must be someone presented in the earlier part of the story?

>>4034819
Yes but if it was a prank then didn't the other members of the family know about it?

>>4034787
>However, her human counterpart goes on about how she and Beatrice are now separated and different people, because they "can't love Battler" anymore and yes, she assigns the traits of Battler's ideal woman onto her (blonde and bouncy, etc)

Is this the reason why Battler cannot revive the previous Beatrice?

>>4034802
everyone kinda explodes, so I don't think it matters.

Although I hope the men went and beat the shit out of her.

>>4034797

Want me to post my theory on how the Meta World (or at least, Beato and Battler) is an analogy on the reader/writer relationship?

I've suspected that ever since before, and it feels nice to be validated by EP6.

>>4034808
There was a good explanation for that.

I think. I just couldn't understand it through ATLAS. She went on about how she avoided blood splatter and how exactly she did it, though, I believe.

>>4034808

She explains how she did and how she didn't get blood on her. Just read the translated shit.

>>4034815

She annoyed the family pretty hard during dinner time and even crushed Maria's dream making her cry. When it gets translated you'll see why she is so hated this time.

Well guys, i gotta remember that even if a theory is valid, it does not mean it's truth. I find that really unlikely to happen, but then Battler was the GM this time. He wouldn't like to make his family a group of criminals.

>>4034828
No I know why she's hated and I know she was going against Maria with Beato's existence, along with the Mariage Sociere.

But seriously WHY do that. I mean fuck she's just a bitch and whore. Ignore her or something. Please tell me there was at least ONE person who raised their hand and said "Um, isn't this kinda pointless?!" because holy fuck this is retarded.

reposting to see if it's true.

>Anyway, people were saying Battler made two Beatos, one full moe one full troll. That doesn't really seem to be the case. There's moe Beato, who is the main one throughout the episode and first calls Battler her father, and then there's a Beato who she meets by touching the portrait called onee-sama. They're both Beato, but without 1000 years passing, they won't become the same as the old Beato. Also, it seems they both lack what the other has. The older Beato isn't really a troll Beato, but a dignified Beato who has more memory of the witch legend. There's a scene where they walk around the mansion together at night. They both have very weak magic power, but they can strengthen it by playing small tricks. To this end, they go and open a window and fly out it as butterflies. According to the servants later, that same window is always opened with no explanation. Little tricks like that strengthen belief in them, and so fortify their powers.

>>4034820
Episode 6's culprit is introduced in the previous episode, if you look at each episode as an individual story, it works. Or if you at least consider they should be introduced in an episode before.

Also remember, you're not supposed to rigidly wield Knox rules and deny anything that violates them. Their existence doesn't mean all mysteries fit in with them perfectly in all ways. Dlanor herself said that, but they can help you solve it.

>>4034821

Everyone was in on it except Erika.

>>4034820

She's just a crazy bitch, not really the culprit Battler picked for his story.

So if Shannon = Kanon, then is s/he male or female?

>>4034828
But jesus, PRETENDING THAT SIX PEOPLE ARE DEAD REALLY?
They could have just told her to fuck off until the boat got there, god damn.

>>4034835
true.

>>4034831
It was in red that Erika killed them and they weren't dead before they did. If you look at all the red and blue and the circumstances of the episode, it's pretty much a given this "theory" is true.

If that's what you're talking about.

>>4034838

Best of both worlds baby. It can fuck Jessica while servicing George and Battler. Thats why the murders are happening, it's a goddamn love triangle, or square or whatever.

>>4034845
I mean, they had an actual reason for doing that other than pissing off Erika.

>>4034831
THIS.I think this is the reason why Aurora want Bernkastel to be the next GM.

>>4034849
Oh, that. Yeah, there's nothing in red about that. Actually, I don't remember anything about the being said, but I was reading it with ATLAS so who knows.

I'm still confused on what Battler wants.

I know he doesn't want to admit Beatrice/magic did the murders, but he doesn't want to accuse his family either. Has he just toughened up, and is he willing to say that members of his family really did commit the murders?

This is the first Umineko episode where after hearing most of the spoilers, I have no desire to play it.

Sucks.

>>4034849
Oh, that. Yeah, there's nothing in red about that. Actually, I don't remember anything about the reason they were faking/not really dead being said, but I was reading it with ATLAS so who knows.

>>4034849
What was the reason other than fucking with Erika.

Because there better be a better reason for this, because holy fuck the Ushiromiya family as a whole might as well be labeled retards.

You don't mess with life and death. Especially not with a random whore who just showed up on your island a few hours ago.

>>4034859

Battler just wants to finish Beato's game, proving he understands the truth she was trying to tell him. And he did. Too bad we still don't know what the truth it.

>>4034850
If Bern becomes the next GM, won't it be absolute hell for her opponent? Who will her opponent be?

I like that the family takes time out of siphoning money out of each other to troll a little girl, that's prioritizing right there.

>>4034862
I can't see EVA doing that man. FUCKING EVA.
She would just slap the shit out of Erika.

>>4034850
Although I love Sorcerer Battler, I agree with Hanyuu-lady. He's not going to make them look like criminals and he's not going to reveal anything.

>>4034860
It's an enjoyable episode. It's by no means the worst episode, too. It's just not as good as episode 5.

>>4034884
Agreed. It's not terrible, but I can't say its the best. Ryukishi said he would focus more on the story than the mystery, but to be honest I think he should stick to the mystery more after all this.

Wait, Erika dies at the end of EP6? Game piece Erika or Meta-Erika? I hope Meta-Erika so I don't have to see her face anymore.

>>4034894
Meta-Erika is gone. She gets destroyed by Beatrice.

Piece Erika is also gone. Her execute TIPs state that nobody is even sure if she ever came to the island to begin with, which means her existence on the gameboard is literally denied.

>>4034894
Meta-Erika. And Piece-Erika I suppose. She gets denied, but that doesn't mean she didn't exist in episode 5 and 6. She probably did, but from now on she won't be in any episodes. To start with, she didn't exist before those two games, and she only exists for those two games. All the other characters had existences outside, she didn't.

>>4034887

But he probably think he's given enough clues.

You should've solved all of this by now. Hell by this point, he's giving away freebies. We now have an insight to Beato's character that confirms some people's suspicions.

Thread auto-saging, made a new thread >>4034898

>>4034900
I guess, but still.

I'm pretty sure at this point Kyrie is the culprit though. If not one of the murderers at the very least she could be the mastermind.

How did Erika slice off their heads without them noticing? It's not like it's quick and easy to slice off someone's head, especially when you don't have the right tools or expertise.