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wth happened to Lambda and the Stakes in this game.

>>4015064
Rance

I want to see fanarts of Erika in wedding dress.If there are no such things then it is a fake.

Human Beato is a man/reverse trap
Human Beato is a man/reverse trap
Human Beato is a man/reverse trap
Human Beato is a man/reverse trap
Human Beato is a man/reverse trap
Human Beato is a man/reverse trap
Human Beato is a man/reverse trap

>>4015078

Better than a BOMB

>>4015077
It's not fake.

I just woke up, had to leave shortly after spoilers first started appearing.

Spoil me, /jp/.

So what's up with Maria, is she dead in the first twilight or not?

>>4015083
Well, (s)he's DA BOMB regardless of how literal the description is.

UMG 6 was disappointing

>>4015077
Even Japan isn't that fast, bro.

GIVE ME A FUCKING DOWNLOAD LINK OR GIVE ME DEATH

Is there a real torrent YET?

>>4015088
The first ranked of the 72 demons?
What the hell!?

>>4015088
God, my eyes.

So Kinzo was a miner and using B0MB called Beatrice he found fucking vein of gold.
Now he tried making another B0MB and put soul the soule of B0MB 1 in it.

Yes i solved Umineko.

>>4015089
Kanon kills Rosa, Maria goes MARIA, summon Sakuratou and fight him.
Shannon comes and kill her.
Which basically mean that Shannon killed both Maria and Rosa since Shannon = Kanon.

>>4015095
We have fanart of Kaguya or already, hell Rifyu even did a 4koma with her.

How about new tracks?
Are they good??

>>4015105
MAKES SENSE TO ME

>>4015093
Agreed.

To be fair, it was probably the fault of the song. It was fucking terrible.

>>4015107
>summon Sakuratou and fight him
WAIT what!?

>>4015105
>>4015105
Yes.
Yes you solved it.

So, is there any torrents for EP6 yet?

>>4015107
Kannin killled Maria and Rosa not Shannon

>>4015101
No, you idiot, ONE of the 72 demons.

Wouldn't it make sense if the original Beatrice was someone who helped him develop the bomb that allowed him to reach the gold?

>>4015113
It's true.
There's a pic, but I don't have it.

>>4015122
So, the island is one big gold mine?

>>4015101
what are his/her powers

>>4015101
So Bael is her name?

>>4015122
'SHOW ME THE MIRACLE OF PYROTECHNICS AGAIN, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!'
Yeah.

Jeez, I don't care about bombs and ponies. I want to know what happened to the other characters in the end. What happened to Godha and his crew? What happened to Jess and George?

>>4015122
>>4015122
>>4015122
>>4015122

THIS MAKE MORE FUCKING SENSE THAN ANYTHING ELSE

dammit what's Battlers's sin?

>>4015131
And that's why he keeps bursting into fucking flames.

>>4015121
What's his/her rank?
Now I feel curious.

>>4015135
Confessing his love to a bomb.

>>4015135
Being insane enough to hold a back-and-forth conversation with a bomb.

All of you.

Do you trust Ryukishi to give you the proper hints and clues to solve the mystery? He trusts you. He trusts that you can do it. So trust him. That's the bond between writer and audience.

Scrooge Mc Duck = Kinzo
Magica De Spell = Beatrice
Donald Duck = Kinzo

>>4015143
He didn't confess his love to anything.
He just said what kind of woman she likes.

>The problem with you fuckers is that you can't separate Mystery and Fantasy elements in your head.

>You see a human Beatrice at the end of ep4 say that Battler is alone on the island and she will kill him now.
>and yet you translate that straight into that she really is there somehow instead of being a visualisation of a 'concept'.

You get hung up on you seeing a human Beatrice in your fantasy elements so that must be what Beatrice is.
It's not, she's not, it's clear that this meta- or whatever Beatrice has a 'true' nature that is just interpreted through the fantasy elements to be a 'witch'.


You'll never accept a mystery conclusion at this rate, if you can't tell the difference between the real world and the interpretations seen from the meta world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jIlR-01t0&feature=related

Oooh They're gonna need to glue you back together...IN HELL!!

>The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow.
No bomb was mentioned before therefore bomb is not the killer.
Also the fuck are you placing bombs in a Agatha Christie-style novel ?

Hey guys, I just want to know one thing: What's the deal with moeblob Beatrice? And is long-haired suit Beato a villain?

>>4015155
I trust him to make this 100 times more tiring than it is already.

>>4015139
Furfur is 34th. That's right under Gaap.
Zepar, however, is 16th. That's the highest we've seen yet.
Then again, it's extremely likely that the hierarchy doesn't actually mean anything at all in Umineko.

So, how many characters got genderswapped in this episode?

There's 17 people on the island.
But, including Erika, there was 18 people in one room in episode 5.
How does it work?

>>4015165
The bomb is a weapon so it could not be the culprit.

those memories "beatrice" had are fake unless they are in red
battler could be talking to george or shannon who was sitting on the bomb who knows

So Beato is a Bob-omb and Battler is Mario? Then who is Luigi? I mean, there should be Luigi...

>>4015171
Wait, what?

>>4015160
Like I said, human Beatrice who is in love with Battler is confirmed, so I don't really give a fuck if there's also a bomb that has the name Beatrice.

>>4015173
We don't actually have the game, so we honestly DON'T KNOW.
Unfortunately.

>>4015180
Wait, really?

>Dead Rosa

Ugh, does she die early again?

>>4015180
Even if human Beatrice is GEORGE?

>>4015166
They're creations of Battler. We're not sure what purpose Moeblob Beatrice actually serves, but she has some kind of revelation at the end about Beatrice's love for Battler which powers her up enough to get her ass kicked by Erika.

>>4015173
because she counts as the 18th person

>>4015189
First Twilight, bro. Killed by Kanon himself.

>>4015189
Moms die first this round.

>>4015131
>>4015138
"BEATORICHE! LET ME SEE THAT BRLLIANT EXPLOSION OF YOURS!!! UUOOOOHHHH!!!"

Real Ep6 spoiler

Natsuhi and Krauss confirmed to have known about Kuwadorin from the beginning, having investigated the entire island for his resort.

>>4015190

Anything is better than Bombtrice. Except Jessitrice.

Repostan:
Hasn't it pretty much been confirmed that there is another Maria Ushiromiya? The person who wrote in little Maria's diary had the same handwriting as the person who wrote the letters in the bottles. And the whole deal with Kinzo getting mad at Rosa for naming her daughter Maria.

Also, will we ever learn who the fuck is little Maria's father, or is the concept pretty much unimportant to the series? Plus, what do the all the furniture correspond to? I know Genji and Kumasawa are related to Ronove and Vigilia, and Maria's toy rabbits are most likely related to the Siestas, but what about Gaap and Dlanor?

>>4015178
Yeah, I've heard some things about human Beato being male/reverse trap and Kanon being actually a girl, but not Shannon.

>>4015205
Then why don't they ever just, you know, GO HIDE?

>>4015197
No, Battler and Beatrice both say "including you There's no more than 17 people on the island" talking to Erika.

Also since it take place well into the second day, you can rule out someone coming during the storm.

>>4015174
The bomb worked independently according to the theory.
Bomb is more the killer than the weapon in this case.

B0MB>Pony>Jessitrice>Shannon=Kanon

>>4015212

They haven't seen the bomb.

>>4015173

You can say "I have two apples" in red when really you have three apples, because you have two apples as well.

In other words, you can say "There are 17 people on this island" and "There are 18 people on this island"

You could even say "There is one person on this island"

Beatrice is a human who tries to save Battler but ends up being killed by the culprit. All the bodies are dumped into the boiler, and hers is the last one, and the bodies end up detonating the boiler, killing everyone. Hence Beatrice is the bomb, and the pony theory is also true.

>>4015215
The bomb is activated by the real culprit hence the bomb still a weapon.

>>4015188
Yes, unless you think the apparent emotional climax of this ep revolves around a bomb contemplating its feelings of love for Battler and remembering the conversation they had that made it fall for him.

B0MB makes more sense than other theories to be honest

>>4015207
Maria's father is the Goldsmith.

>>4015205
Now I have to reread ep. 3 with that in mind...

I hope the cliff that the adopted baby dropped of in 1967 isn't the same one that Beatrice fell off of.

>>4015126
Yes. The main joke is not the people count, because it doesn't matter how many people are 'on' the island - there is an army under it.

>>4015155
IT'S NOT LIKE RYUKUSHI LOVES YOU, HIS READER OR ANYTHING
But he did write Umineko because he needed more love. Let's give him that.

Holy fucking shit. How did this thread get so many replies in so little time?

>>4015226
That's stupid, and the phrase doesn't work that way.
And once again, IT WASN'T USED AS A CLIMAX AND HUGE CLIFFHANGER FOR NOTHING.

How exactly does the boiler come into this?

>>4015233

I don't think people are seriously arguing that.

The bomb system's probably just named Beatrice or something.

>>4015229
That makes the culprit a kamikaze.

Real Beato candidates:
George, Kanon, Shannon (if Battler mistook her for a boy in that scene), Gohda, Genji, Rudolf, Hideyoshi, Krauss, Kinzo, Nanjo, an unknown servant at this point and a bomb.

>>4015247
The boiler IS Beatrice of course.

>>4015207
Dlanor and the inquisitors are obviously based on chess pieces.

Gaap is probably another servant, the obvious choice would be Shannon as her vessel.

>>4015252

I think people are seriously arguing that. See above

>>4015243
No one actually knows much, so it's wild mass guessing gone insane. People are literally contradicting each within like five fucking posts because the "discussion" is moving so quickly.
Isn't it fun?

I ask again:

Can someone confirm that it was stated in red that no more than 17 humans (Erika included) exist in EP6?

Oh Erika you desperate slut

Can someone remind when proud-dust was used in EP5? I marathoned it, so details like that escape me.

>>4015243
/a/ uminekofags have moved in

>>4015259
Gaap is a rose, is what people were saying. Maria's rose, perhaps.
Popular theory says that Furfur and Zepal are Shannon and Kanon.

>>4015255
Unless they fake their death and book it for Kuwadorian.

So what, Kinzo set his entire family up the bomb before he died?
How did he get to personally appear and tell them of their imminent death (via nuking) in Ep 4? Video will?

>>4015272
So who is the unlucky bastard marrying her, Battler?

So are there any videos or pics of the new OP?

>>4015257
NONONONONONONONONO
Just... no.

jesus, Umineko is just becoming one depressing story isn't it?

forced marriages, baby killing, breaking and forgetting promises, being held captive.

not to mention at the moment I'm listening to Discolor, I dont't think I've ever loved Umineko more then I have now ;_;

>>4015270
Either all of 2ch is trolling me personally, or yes it was confirmed in red.

>>4015282

In her delusions

>>4015258
I guess that's why Kinzo always wants to get inside her.

>>4015282
I would.

>>4015285
I can only hope the male Beato fags are just trolling, but I've been so thoroughly trolled through this entire spoiler process I can't fucking tell anymore.

>>4015214

Who was the Beato that stated the mindfuck Red with Battler?

The real one?

>>4015105

I like the checkerboard being called a chess board in the pic.

Also, I asked this in the other thread, but apparently everybody moved over here already. Should we ignore the red that Virgilia and Ronove said? Considering that someone said that they can't be accepted without proof?

>>4015257
I'm betting on Gohdatrice.

>>4015272
>Dlanor with glasses

>>4015282
She's trying to get Battler fall for her, like Beato did in EP 3.

>>4015272
I just noticed that Erika has actually boobs.

>>4015297
A member of his Beato harem

So I guess the bomb really looked like the person in the portrait...

>>4015293
Oh god, I would too.

>>4015264

It's not like Beato is JUST a bomb.

She's probably a lot of things, and it's just that her basis was the human who Battler promised shit too.

Beato is ALSO a bomb would be more accurate.

>>4015289

If it's the latter then WHAT THE FUCK

>>4015296
Why is everyone so in denial with that theory?
And again, she doesn't have to be male, Battler could just mistook her for a boy when they were young.

>>4015317
Shannon = Kanon.
Or Erika doesn't exist.

Seems to be the popular theories.

>>4015313
Me three.
We'd be Erika's harem at this rate

>>4015298

Which Red?

>>4015288
It becomes more and more ridiculous for me.
It's hard to feel a connection with teh characters and events.

>>4015316
Well, didn't they say Beatrice is a title held by multiple people?
Well, we now suspect one of those persons was actually not a person at all, but all the other Beatrices could have been human beings.

>>4015275
It might be worth noting that Zepar and Furfur both have the ability the make people fall in love, one for men and the other for women.

>>4015326

Wasn't that connection already established early on? I mean that's why Ryukishi decided to play around a bit, because he doesn;t have to do that task any more.

>>4015318
Is it really so hard to go with Battler just answering a question an oddly earnest servant he doesn't know well asks him, whether it's a boy or a girl?

>>4015326
really?why not wait for the translations.it is hard to understand shit right now.perhaps, everything would be cleared when witch-hunt released the patch.

>This thread

Can anyone give me a summary of the confirmed spoilers so far, please?

>>4015327
Who are these lovely lasses?

Hurry up, witch hunt, damn it.

>>4015335
I have felt this way with episode 4 and 5.
6 seems to crank it up a notch.

>>4015335

Meanwhile, at Witch-Hunt
Episode 6: Dawn of the Golden Witch
* Translation: 0%
* Editing: 0%

>>4015326
I actually think EP5 brought back my interest in Umineko, I actually felt for a few characters this time round, the atmosphere was done really well.

Ryu REALLY doesn't need to add all these characters in though, they're unnecessary.
Did we really need Cornelia and Gertrude? their roles could've been fulfilled by Dlanor.

>>4015339
Furfur and Zepar

One of them is a trap

>>4015334
Because Battler had a crush on that servant girl, so it's hard to believe he would smile and say: "Well, you see, I like Jessica's type!"

>>4015324
A harem implies that she's got dominance or authority, but...

>>4015339
You mean lads.

>>4015339

Zepar and Furfur.

One of the 72 great demons.

>>4015338
First twilight victims: Battler, Rosa, Eva, Natsuhi, Maria, Rosa

Game doesn't progress past the first twilight. Fantasy culprits are Jessica, Kanon, Shannon, and George, influenced by demons.

Some Hanyuu wannabe shows up in 1998 but no one knows her deal yet.

Explosion confirmed to have taken place on Rokkenjima, wiping out any survivors. Beatrice confirmed to have fallen in love with Battler based on a previous encounter on Rokkenjima. Mindfuck riddle at the end.

>>4015351
Maybe he answered that question when they first met, before developing the crush.

Meanwhile, at Witch Hunt..

>>4015356
what is this mindfuck riddle that you speak of

>>4015355
>>4015350
Oh god a trap, why Ryu, why?!

>>4015338

Shannon/Kanon split personality theory that a 2ch user made after reading episode 6.
紗音嘉音同一人物（二重人格）説に基づくEP6の情報の解釈

・紗音が使用人を辞めたら嘉音も辞めるつもり
・紗音が譲治の求婚を受けると、紗音は六軒島へは二度と帰らず嘉音とはお
別れになる
　（嘉音も「（そうなれば）僕たちはお別れだね」と認めている）
・嘉音は、勝っても朱志香と紗音両方を大事にするつもり。紗音は勝ったら
嘉音と六軒島のことを忘れ島を出て行くつもり
・嘉音が心の底から朱志香を好きだと認めるならば、紗音は嘉音と決着を付
けなければいけない
・紗音の幸せは嘉音を傷つける
・紗音と嘉音は傷付けあわずにはいられない存在
・勝負で紗音が勝てば「嘉音はある日使用人を辞め、島を出て行き二度と朱
志香に会えなくなる」
　（フルフルたちは「朱志香が探したとしても見つからない」と断言）
・「二つ一組」のモチーフ（真っ二つに割れた黄金蝶のブローチ、そして二
人組み（そして男女）のゼパルとフルフル）

紗音（紗代）が譲治の求婚を受け島を出るなら、身体を共有している嘉音（
嘉哉）は当然使用人を辞めることに
なるし（恐らくは紗代が主人格として固定され、嘉哉は表に出てこれなくな
る）、いくら朱志香が探しても
紗代として生活しているので見つかるはずがない。

>>4015363
No more than 17 people on Rokkenjima even after Erika arrives.

>>4015325

All of it, I guess. Trying to get a screencap of why I ask.

>>4015356

Do you think we'll ever see murders past the first twilight? I think Ryukishi thinks it's unnecessary now that he laid down enough hints.

Why do people say the riddle at the end is so confusing? It's just Ryukishi confirming Shannon = Kanon.

I mean, seriously, the demons representing them are a girl and a trap. A TRAP. Does it get more obvious?

>>4015356

>explosion

I will bet you anything that R07 just put that there to screw with our heads.

>>4015352
We can be tsundere. We can hurt her like Love Hina harem.

But seriosly, she is fictional character and would be propably stuck up for a while, but if I met a girl this smart even in her twenties I would most likely hit her.

>>4015356
So Ryukishi trolls giving both fuel to the B0MB and Pony theories? Ffffffffff

>>4015329
But didn't they also have something to do with Natsuhi's infertility? Oh well, whatever. Putting that aside, we've got:
Genji = Ronove, the extraordinary butler
Kumasawa = Virgilia, the wise counsel from a bygone generation
Shanon & Kanon = Furfur and Zepar, look-alike lovers
Maria's rose (?) = Gaap, transporter of matter and master of holes
Maria's rabbit troupe = The Siesta Sisters
Kinzo's occult stakes = The Stakes of Purgatory
Kinzo's chess set = The Eiserne Jungfrau

Didn't Ryukishi confirm that for a superhuman player, the whole thing was solvable by Episode 4?
AND I SEE NO BOMB?
It was a bit fishy in Ep. 4 that Ange couldn't go to the mansion in 1997 though. The bomb would solve the Ep 4 riddle at the end too, which would mean the bomb was called Beatrice for sure?


maybe it was just a small bomb.

Again, which one is the trap?

>>4015379
Yes. They will probably have to merge into a unifying ponybomb theory.

>>4015380
We lack a demon for Kinzo's beverage.

Thank you.

>>4015356
>Game doesn't progress past the first twilight.

The Twilights weren't finished again?


>Explosion confirmed to have taken place on Rokkenjima, wiping out any survivors.

So, I guess it wasn't small bombs, but a LITTLE BOY?


>Beatrice confirmed to have fallen in love with Battler based on a previous encounter on Rokkenjima.

So, Jessitrice/Shannotrice confirmed?


>Mindfuck riddle at the end.

What was it?

>>4015391
The one that doesn't violate your eyes, sadly.

>>4015374

Too obvious

>>4015380
i thought the jungfrau were the master keys

also, i can understand how genji can be ronove, but how the hell can maria's rose make portals???

>>4015365
Translation, anyone? ; ;

>>4015390
Bomb is in the fucking epitath.
And explosion 100% confirmed in episode 6.

>>4015380
Siestas are guns.
Also, stakes are the adult family members.

>>4015393
What demon is suitable to symbolize Absinthe?Heh

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>>4015243
/a/ lurking on /jp/? oh what a honor!

Guess they´re here because every /a/-thread is full of underaged b& and trolls - some of them wanted to experience a wholehearted Uminekothread for the sake of variety.

>>4015380
I always thought that George=Ronove and Gaap=Jessica

Are there still no real ep6 isos?

>>4015411
no the stakes are fake antiques MADE IN USA.Read EP5's Tea Party

>>4015405
Yeah, that's the problem. Thus my question mark, bro.

>>4015411
But then what of the whole "smashed 556" thing?

>>4015414
I keep thinking of that really old fake spoiler with Keiichi as Belial.
He looked so fucking suave.

>>4015395
Human Beatrice is confirmed, at least, no matter who you think it is. Jessitrice at least seems to have been denied based on Beatrice's flashback though.

>>4015327
This design is just... why...

GODDAMMIT I TOLD YOU TO STOP ADDING NEW USELESS CHARACTERS-- WE HAVE NEOUGH

>>4015380
That too. Although part of me just wants to say that he's picking the demons at random, and Gaap only so he could make the pun.

In demonology, Furfur (other spelling: Furtur) is a powerful Great Earl of Hell, being the ruler of twenty-nine legions of demons. He is a liar unless compelled to enter a magic triangle where he gives true answers to every question, speaking with a rough voice. Furfur causes love between a man and a woman, creates storms, tempests, thunder, lightning, and blasts, and teaches on secret and divine things.

He is depicted as a hart or winged hart, and also as an angel. To some authors he changes from hart into angel when compelled to enter the magic triangle.

'Furfur' or 'furfures' in Latin means "bran". However it seems more likely that the name is a corruption of 'Furcifer' the Latin word for scoundrel.
[edit] Additional Traits

* Zodiac Position: 1 - 10 degrees of Pisces
* October 13th-22nd
* Tarot Card: Eight of Cups
* Planet: Mars
* Element: Water
* Metal: Iron
* Rank: Earl

>>4015424

Maria's rose always disappears.

It gains the power to make anything disappear?

>>4015393
isnt Bernkastel a wine?

>>4015418
Gaap aside, Genji=Ronove is a pretty explicit parallel.
For one thing, their names are exactly the same to begin with, in Japanese (Ronoue Genji).
But then to top it off, Ronove says in his fight with Jessica that he and Genji are one and the same.

>Bomb
SUBETEEEEEEE KOWASE
KONO SEKAI WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4015436
that rose is used in that dish gohda prepares

>>4015437
Welcome to along time ago.

Anyhow, no more screenshots incoming?

In demonology, Zepar is a Great Duke of Hell, who tries to seduce women, and if requested by them, he can change his shape into that of their beloved man; in addition, he has the power to make women sterile. He has twenty-six legions of demons under his command. Other grimoires say that he makes women love men and brings them together in love. According to other authors, Zepar tries to seduce men by means of pederasty.

He is depicted as a soldier with red clothes and armor.

n demonology, Furfur (other spelling: Furtur) is a powerful Great Earl of Hell, being the ruler of twenty-nine legions of demons. He is a liar unless compelled to enter a magic triangle where he gives true answers to every question, speaking with a rough voice. Furfur causes love between a man and a woman, creates storms, tempests, thunder, lightning, and blasts, and teaches on secret and divine things.

He is depicted as a hart or winged hart, and also as an angel. To some authors he changes from hart into angel when compelled to enter the magic triangle.

'Furfur' or 'furfures' in Latin means "bran". However it seems more likely that the name is a corruption of 'Furcifer' the Latin word for scoundrel.

>>4015444
It seems so, at least not for awhile

>In demonology, Zepar is a Great Duke of Hell, who tries to seduce women, and if requested by them, he can change his shape into that of their beloved man; in addition, he has the power to make women sterile. He has twenty-six legions of demons under his command. Other grimoires say that he makes women love men and brings them together in love. According to other authors, Zepar tries to seduce men by means of pederasty.
>According to other authors, Zepar tries to seduce men by means of pederasty.
OH SHIT
GEORGE GOT FOOLED
KANON = SHANNON, AND KANON IS THE REAL ONE

>>4015443

From Maria's POV it still disappears.

I think MARIA and Beato have this shared universe thing.

In demonology, Zepar is a Great Duke of Hell, who tries to seduce women, and if requested by them, he can change his shape into that of their beloved man; in addition, he has the power to make women sterile. He has twenty-six legions of demons under his command. Other grimoires say that he makes women love men and brings them together in love. According to other authors, Zepar tries to seduce men by means of pederasty.

He is depicted as a soldier with red clothes and armor

ZEPAR IS A TRAP
Kannon

>>4015448
Ah well. Doesn't that mean Japan has finished, and that it should come online soon?

why does hanyuu look so fappable?

>>4015458
Looking kinda Hanyuu there, Hanyuu.

>>4015173
>But, including Erika, there was 18 people in one room in episode 5. How does it work?

Battler acknowledged the 18 there, not Erika.

As shown in the Ange scenes from episode 4, someone can acknowledge a fantasy character even with people who can't see them around.

>>4015272
Erika Furudo is the female version of this guy, of course I'd marry her in an instant.

>>4015436

That's cause Gohda served it for dessert at lunch.

>>4015458
Fake.

>>4015458
She has like 3 or 4 different outfits? What the fuck?

EP 6 is pretty short it seems. Definietly shorter than EP 4 and 5. Maybe around EP 3's length

Meh, it seems R07 cannot write a human culprit ever. For fucks sake, a bomb? I mean, I saw it coming after small bombs, but, well, hopefully whoever set-up the bomb was a human with the intention of wiping everyone.

By the way, which timeline did the events of 1998 follow this time?

>>4015425
>Human Beatrice is confirmed, at least, no matter who you think it is. Jessitrice at least seems to have been denied based on Beatrice's flashback though.
>Jessitrice at least seems to have been denied based on Beatrice's flashback though.

Can you explain this, please?

>>4015441

>>4015452
>he has the power to make women sterile

Natsuhi.. ;_;

>>4015466
Well sure Erika is cute and all but Hercule Poirot is leagues about Erika. They do share some traits though, especially when it comes to losing.

>>4015468

Fuck, I never noticed that.

>>4015466
i always wondered what´s the meaning behind this fanart

>>4015477
Battler says he likes "women who are like Jessica" in third person
unless shota battler used to talk in third person we can safely assume he was talking to another person

>>4015482
It's obvious that's because it happens in 1983, so Krauss just wore wrong pants.

>>4015477
The flashback consists of Battler telling "Beatrice" about the types of girls he likes, and in his rambling he mentions "girls of Jessica's type", implying Jessica isn't the person he's talking to.

>>4015455
Protip:
Pederasty is homosexual romance between a high-class man and a closely-related boy of inferior rank.

>>4015477
>Implying the culprit doesn't have a B0MB inserted in his body

>>4015489
Huh? Doesn't that confirm he used to like Jessica?

>>4015423
Yeah, but it seems to imply that there are multiple factors for fantasy furniture. For instance, they said that they thought the Siestas were guns, which makes a lot of sense, but EP4 also implied that the Siestas were the porcelain rabbits. So apparently they're both.

Stakes can be the stakes from the USA, sure, that doesn't even matter. They've had a physical form since episode 1 after all, their origin doesn't mean much. But their personalities could easily be pulled from the family members.

>>4015503
No, the way he was talking about it it didn't come off that way at all. It was kind of a noncommittal "yeah, maybe around Jessica's type or something"; what he was getting at was that he liked girls with a rough and tumble personality.

>>4015483
I do know about the gray cells, but "...this level of reasoning is possible for Furudo Erika" is her own, annoying catchphrase, I hope.

Also I loved Lambda and Bern discussing SF.

>>4015504
You know what that suggests?
That it's all just storytelling parallels that when placed in the context of the literal mystery ultimately amount to red herring bullshit designed to fuck with your mind.

>>4015365
Wow, I don't know how anyone could doubt the Shannon = Kanon theory after that.
This episode sure drived that point home.

There are going to be multiple culprits, relating to factions vying for control of the estate.

One of those factions, obviously, planted a fucking bomb. And delivered it using Beatrice somehow.

>>4015484

Yeah, I had a discussion with another anon yesterday and we figured that it's possible that this is how the culprit knew Maria would be in the garden, making whoever got the roses for Gohda suspicious.

>>4015510
I see, but how do we know he's talking to some "Beatrice" and not, say, Shannon?

>>4015365
My project for the day is to translate this elegantly.
I'll post it on /jp/ later.

Did Episode 6 not have an opening? I haven't seen anybody discuss it.

>>4015533
That would be awesome.

>>4015529
Technically you could interpret it as Shannon.

Although you'd be stupid.

>>4015529
We don't. That's the point.
It's submissive-Beatrice's flashback.

>>4015504
Siestas= Wepons fueled with Maria's figures
Stakes= Made in USA.How Maria sees her family (Eva=Pride, Krauss=Greed etc)
Other Magical Characters=Hor Maria sees the servants (Virgilia=Kumasawa, Furfur and Zepar=Shanon and Kanon etc)
Beatrice=Jessitrice, B0MB, Reverse Trap etc

>>4015529

It was Piece Beatrice's flashback, so whoever he was talking to, is Beatrice in some way.

That's why some people are saying that it's hinting at a male Beatrice, it doesn't seem like the kind of thing he'd tell to a girl he supposedly likes (Shannon or disguised daughter of Beatrice II) and Jessica is ruled out because she's mentioned in 3rd person.

>>4015541
Though the actual memory seems to be drawn from her "mother"/real Beato.

>>4015538
It does, but seeing Ep 1 and Ep2 had the same opening, and Ep3 and Ep4 too, it's not too weird to assume Ep6 has the same opening as well.

To add onto the Kanon=Shannon discussion, what about the whole "Jessica and George killed each other" bit in Episode Four?
That explains it pretty well.

>>4015554
although it doesn't make much sense since EP 5's opening has major focus on Natsuhi, who dies in the 1st twilight of this episode;

>>4015554

But there were 3 openings for the first 4 games

Got this text from another site. Don't know if fake.

"Beatrice chose Natsushi as a sacrifice.

This was revenge against "Battler"."

"Asumu had a son named Battler, but we don't know what happened to him.
Then we have our Battler who wasn't born from Asumu.

The Battler that Asumu had was given away to Natsuhi, while our Battler was born from Kyrie and given to Asumu somehow.

But Natsuhi killed that Battler."

Eva=Pride
Krauss=Greed
Rudolf=Sloth
Kyrie=Envy
Rosa=Wrath
Natsuhi=Lust
Hideyoshi=Gluttony

so shit really did KABEWN this time ?
EP 5 opening was correct

>>4015551

Battler says all kinds of shit he shouldn't say to everyone.

>>4015551
>That's why some people are saying that it's hinting at a male Beatrice

Oh.... ho! Gay end?

>>4015571

Wow, these actually fit.

>>4015569
Guess where that's from, bro?
The top two lines are translated from the game.
The bottom junk is a post from last night.
By the way, GO BACK TO LIVEJOURNAL.

>>4015571
Gohda = Glutton for attention.

Rosa - killed by Kanon, MARIA fights him with Sakutarou but Maria is killed by Shannon.

Kannon and Shannon ?

>>4015571
Natsuhi - Pride
Kyrie - Envy
Eva - Wrath
Rudolf - Sloth
Krauss - Greed
Hideyoshi - Gluttony
Rosa - Lust

Don't know why Natsuhi is lust on your list, when Battler said in red she's a pure woman.

>>4015571
Natsuhi as lust seems kind of out of place, unless I'm missing something.

>>4015571
>Rosa=Wrath
>Natsuhi=Lust
Wouldn't it be Rosa=Lust and Natsuhi=Wrath?

As soon as I have a legit iso I'm going to start translating the game live here on /jp/. When the iso comes out, grab it so you can run through it with the music and effects at the same time.

>>4015571

Gluttony should be Gohda.

>>4015594
Natsuhi doesn't violently burst into anger like Rosa does.

>>4015589
This Episode is fucked up as hell.

I don't know if that makes Battler a fucking bad, or a fucking awesome Game Master.

>>4015571
>Natsuhi=Lust

Fuck you man ;_;

>>4015595
you sir are awesome

>>4015495
Adult and child, not necessarily man and boy.

>>4015598
Not really.
Gohda doesn't consume, he produces.

>>4015571

Natsuhi=Lust??

>>4015551
Not necessarily. Sometimes you talk to someone as though you're talking to them in third person in Japanese.

it was process of elimination

Is anyone familliar with Ayatsuji Yukito?

And Pure Reasoning Space? Erika mentioned something about parallel universes and whatnot in EP5.

>>4015595
Madness.

I will follow along as soon as I can grab an iso.

Why wouldn't Rudolf be lust?... Did everybody forget he almost (and possibly has) fathered 2 children with 2 different mothers?

>>4015455

So he's the one responsible for Natushi's sterility?

>>4015581
the only ones that fit are Hideyoshi, Kyrie and Rosa.
Rudolf is bound to be lust.
By what Mammon is explaining to Ange, Eva is bound to be greed.
natsuhi is either pride or sloth(migrenas of older women often come from doing nothing and just being in bed or sitting around too much).
Krauss is either pride or greed.

>>4015571
>Natsuhi=Lust

>>4015616
Rosa makes a good candidate for lust, actually. She's a bit of a slut, herself.

>>4015616
Then why did Ryukishi make Rudolf fight Belphegor in the double battles in EP 3? If Rudolf's sin was lust he should have fought with Asmodeus.

Rosa fits as Lust because being Lustful isn't just about sex - it's also about neglecting all your other duties and obligations because of it. Rosa fits.

>>4015365
Make too much sense.

The Tunnel and Dungeon are under the island, not on the island. Couldn't "Beatrice" be hiding there?

Kyrie - Envy
Rudolf - Lust
Rosa - Wrath
Eva - Greed
Hideyoshi - Gluttony
Natsuhi - Pride
Krauss - Sloth (referring to his inability to get his many projects to earn money)

>>4015635
The stakes do not fight their equivalents. In fact, the should not.
The only one that ever did was Kyrie and she was much better against leviathan than Rudolf against Belphe.

>>4015648
NO SHIT SHERLOCK

Natsuhi = Lust not because Natsuhi is a slut, but because she's the most inspiring of lust. Kinda like how the sloth stake is the hard-working one. You don't have to actually embody your sin, just inspire it in others.

>>4015648

On the island, not ontop of the island. Get it? The ground under the top layer is still the island. By this logic, anybody on the second floor of the mansion are no longer on the island.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvgXu-5hysk
Umineko EP6 Motion Graphic

autosage

>>4015655
I don't see the point in making Kyrie fight Leviathan but then make Rudolf fight someone completely unrelated to him, at the exact same time.

And you can't say the stakes don't fight their equivalents because Kanon went up against Satan and Pride, both of which were his sins, and Jessica got stabbed by Asmodeus which was her sin.

>>4015609
The Beatrice in that flashback was miserable because she thought that she'd never have a chance with Battler--so she transferred her feelings to "Beatrice". Battler saying he likes rough and tumble girls like along the lines of Jessica sort of negates that whole "Jessica feeling miserable because she's not enough like Jessica" aspect, huh?

>>4015661
Too contrived, that loophole would already have been addressed a long time ago.

New Thread: >>4015664

>>4015674

I know that, I'm showing him why his logic doesn't work.

>>4015665
Lambdadelta = Bernkastel confirmed

>>4015595
Dude just stream while talking.
Will be much,much better.

Pride: Krauss: As the next head, he wishes to maintain his place no matter what.
Greed: Eva: She wishes to obtain the headship and everything it entitles, through whatever means, similar to how Mammon explained greed to Ange.
Wrath: Rosa: Easy enough.
Envy: Kyrie: Again, easy enough.
Sloth: Natsuhi: She's rather inactive in comparison to the other adults, and sloth can also be equated to the despair that leads to inactiveness.
Gluttony: Hideyoshi: He's fat, enough said. The more I think about it, Hideyoshi doesn't seem like a glutton.
Lust: Rudolf: Impregnated two different women and such.

>>4015590
Pride Krauss
Envy Kyrie
Wrath Rosa
Sloth Natsuhi
Greed Eva
Gluttony Hideyoshi
Lust Rudolf

>>4015667
well if you just look at the scene again it was just Eva-Beato going "Seven stak, just two of you, I don't care which ones" and Leviathan going "IMGONNA FIGHT NOW!!!11!!1!", she didn't really expect to meet someone like Kyrie with affinity to her.

>>4015177
Battler - Mario
George - Luigi
Jessica - Peach
Maria - Toad

So, the bodies weren't alive?

>>4015594

Rosa qualifies for both lust and wrath.
Natsuhi didn't kill anyone.
Rudolf qualifies for lust