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first for my husband

Something about seeing Rin and Shirou all grown up in the UBW epilogue, that is so satisfying

All I want to see is Shiki Ciel and Arihiko finally hanging out at the movies and shit.

>>39839503
Based. Good way to start the thread.

Cute

>>39839614
Shiki doesnt like Arc, but love Ciel

>>39839425
>early
>lolinigger
>already samefags

>>39840181
The old thread has been at page 10 for like, what, a whole day? I don't blame OP for making this new one. No-one's really talking about anything.

ciel sex

>>39840299
Ciel Noel
Lesbo comic

Muh doujins

>>39840639
same

>>39831094
Shiki isn't super interested but she'd totally go for him. He was getting along pretty well with her before she snapped.

>>39840639
What did he mean by this?

Kek Roa...

>>39839466
based

Neco Arc

>>39840957
Puppy Ciel

>>39839503
>ifunny.co

So why did the UBW anime move Taiga's kidnapping to the foot of the Fuyuki bridge (which IIRC is inexplicably deserted despite the scene being set during the day) rather than doing it like the VN did and having the kidnapping take place at the Emiya residence?

Raping castoriaposter

>>39841055
Probably because the bridge allowed for more spectacular visuals.

I want the voiced version now

>>39841135
Roughly 7 more months to go.

15,000 votes
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/714864/vote_result/#votewidget
1 KnK
2 Fate/SN
3 Tsukihime
4 FGO
5 Fate/Zero
6 CCC
7 Mahoyo
8 Fate/HA
9 realta nua
10 DDD
11 Case File
12 Fate/Apocrypha
13 Fate/Extra
14 KnK extra part
15 Fate/Prototype series
16 Fate/Strange Fake
17 Prisma Illya
18 Emiya Gohan
19 Kagetsu Tohya
20 ETC
21 Tsuki no Sango
22 Melty Blood AACC
23 Canaan
24 Melty Blood
25 Fate/Extella Link

Nips have good taste

don't reply

>>39841525
dont replay for what?

he has a proper source
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/714864/vote_result/#votewidget

>>39841552
History of black key

>>39841552
Baptism

ciel

are cielfags retarded?

>>39841579
Narita is retarded
Gilgamesh = Random Vampire Jester

I will kill. I will let live. I will harm and heal. None will escape me. None will escape my sight.
Be crushed.
I welcome those who have grown old and those who have lost.
Devote yourself to me, learn from me, and obey me.
Rest. Do not forget song, do not forget prayer, and do not forget me.
I am light and relieve you of all your burdens.
Do not pretend. Retribution for forgiveness, betrayal for trust, despair for hope, darkness for light, dark death for the living.
Relief is in my hands. I will add oil to your sins and leave a mark.
Eternal life is given through death.
Ask for forgiveness here. I, the incarnation, will swear.
Kyrie eleison

>>39841593
cringe

>>39841607

>>39841593
Lifes become ashes, humans are waste away
Broken flesh and blood, melting down wisdom
If so Grave is salvation, "dead" is my real hometown
Flower in my heart, Clautra del Cierro (The saint's prayer for redemtion)

google translate

>>39841055
I remember Nasu specifically saying he requested that change so they could have a bone soldier fight

They're almost done with arc route bros. They'll likely release a patch for it once they finish,

>>39841055
Maybe to make Archer coming for help more speculative? idk.
That aside, I fucking love this image. Someone should make a similar one for Tsukihime.

>>39842675
Hot

>>39842260
Is there a way to change their font when you read it?

>>39842675
Context?

>>39843151
Akiha cute.

Why did Nasu make her body 12 years old?

>>39843455
She's 25
but her body is 12

>>39843461
There’s no way in hell that’s a 12 year old

Do not reply to the Gook

>>39843455
16 was too old.

>>39843455
Logical consequence of a bunch of things and otherwise small date changes, mainly writing Noel in. Ciel can't be too far off in age from either Noel or Shiki, but Noel is much older than Shiki and the French Incident happened when she was a kid, so it also happened when Ciel was a kid now too. Funny Roa paradox means Ciel is unaging, so now her design is what she looked like when she was that age too, and you can retroactively justify it under Ciel being a genetic lottery winner, keep her dead longer to shorten her age gap to Shiki, and tie her weird age stuff back into her various body issues.

>>39844235
what a mess. Shouldn't have even mentioned an age.

>>39844422
Why? You'd still be able to figure it out even if they didn't make a joke out of it

>>39844476
it just makes the whole situation weird and also her body not looking like a 12 year old.

>>39844546
It's supposed to be weird and she's not supposed to look like a 12 year old.

>>39844559
good for you if you like it then. I'll just think of her having the body of an 18 year old and move on from this topic.

>>39844235
Sounds like an overall dumb change. Don't remember this being that stupid before. Feels like it could have been easily avoided

>>39844650
But it will make her a lot older than Shiki and many people don't like big age gaps.

>>39844580
Yeah because she does. It still fixes her age since she's actually old enough to be a high school senior this time instead of 21

>>39844820
>>39844650
>>39844235
>>39844422
>>39844476
The setting of the remake takes place in the year 2014, instead of 1999.

Remake Ciel born in 1989

She's 25
And Noel is 27

>>39844820
OG CIel was 24
OG Ciel's body age was 16

Archer is a stupid character

>>39845345
She was only dead for 3 years though, so she's 24-3=21. Remake Ciel was dead for 6, for she's 25-6=19. French Incident was moved back to 13 years ago instead of 8 too

>>39845527
Noel say Ciel become a junior executor, when she was 13 years old.
I dont remember she's dead for 6 years

>>39842675
am i bad at perceiving color, or does akiha's hair in that picture look dark brown, not black?

>>39845578
>その子は六年たったある日、よせばいいのに死から目覚めてしまった。おかしいですよね、ロアという魂に見捨てられた脱け殻のくせに生き返っちゃうとか
It's in the same place they mention the timespan for the other Ciel stuff, day 13

>>39845502
Well, he is still a Shirou after all.

Archer is wholesome.

>>39845502
No he isn't. Fuck you. As a Rinfag, I often come to resent Archer for how non-Rinfags underrate Rin's role in UBW and Shirou's character development there simply because they don't like the romance. But then I read the VN or watch the anime and remember he's great, and that there's nothing to be angry over.

I have a dream that /tmg/ will stop replying to the gook and that these threads will be good again.

>>39845723
>As a Rinfag
stopped reading here

>>39845723
Why did you spoiler'd the relevant part of your post?

>>39845732
point out the gook to me

>>39845732
The threads will be good again when there is some content. Just wait a couple of months for news or something.

>>39845732
I normally don't, but that was an actual question so I thought it was fine

>>39845776
Know the signs of the gook. First of all, all of his posts are ESL and it shows. You should be able to spot common mistakes in verb conjugations and other such things. Secondly, he's a big Cielfag (like 90+% of his posts involve Ciel) which unfortunately makes other cielfags look bad. Thirdly, he's obsessed with powerlevels like a shonentard. Next up, he uses the same pictures over and over again (one anon got tricked into translating something for him and now he reposts it constantly). Finally, he often does the thing where he replies multiple times to the same post in rapid succession.

I just want to suck Gilgamesh's toes bros

>>39845854
>makes other cielfags look bad
all ciel fags look bad

>>39845854
Imagine being this obsessed with a single poster.

>>39845854
I spot him through the filenames, powerlevel obsession, and wiki posting.
Maybe we shouldn't mention our ways or he will evolve.

>>39845883
>obsessed
If only. He sticks out like a sore thumb and has spammed these threads with his shit for months now. Anyone who is a regular should be able to spot him with ease.

>>39845896
Yeah good point.

POST CIEL

>>39841537
I wanted this to be the OP pic. Too bad it wasn't the case.

>>39845922

Good morning, /tmg/!

>>39845738
I thought we had finally put to bed this Aokofag vs Rinfag autism

>>39845745
It's only tangentially related to what the poster had said.

>>39846100
gm arachbro

I will never stop being mad about how Ufotable changed that Rin's reaction in the anime.

>>39846135
That was a wormfag.
>t. Aokoposter

>>39846262
God, he is so HOT.

thoughts on this?

>>39846246
Apologies to Aokobros then. How can you tell though?

>>39846305
I cannot be certain that it isn't another Aokofriend, but it isn't me, you have my word there. I do worry that there is a falseflagger, which sucks.

>>39846412
That's certainly a possibility. Frankly I probably shouldn't've bit the bait as well.

>>39846564
Yeah, best to leave filth alone.

What are your unpopular nasuverse opinions and hot takes?

>>39846875
Mine would be too hot even (or specially) for this place.

>>39846875
i do not like rin

>>39846875
Fate anime onlies often have better takes than VN readers. HF3 is the best one of the trilogy. Tsukihime didn't need a remake.

>>39846875
I kind of like the Tsukihime anime and have watched it multiple times.

>>39846875
My "hot take" is that I absolutely hate how "take" has this common usage nowadays. I know it's irrational, but it just sounds retarded. I make sure to say perspective, opinion, etc. instead.

>>39846875
>>39846885
Nevermind. I have some other hot takes:
1. I loved Fate/stay night (2006).
2. Today's Menu for the Emiya Family is my favourite Fate anime, period.

>>39846889
>Fate anime onlies often have better takes than VN readers. HF3 is the best one of the trilogy.

Wanna know how we know you're not a primary?

>>39846875
I actually think Castoria is good

>>39846911
Not him, but he is right on the latter part. HF3 is the best one merely because the other two suck more, most of HF3 problems (aside from Kirei fight) are because of the lack of proper set up in the first two movies.
Not sure about the "anime onlies better than VN readers though", I hate both of them.

>>39846875
I wish people would stop doing this when their ADHD kicks in, let the place be slow for once.

I watched HF3 straight after rereading HF and liked it.

>>39846927
>>39846911
Go ahead, tell me

>>39846927
>HF3 is the best one merely because the other two suck more, most of HF3 problems (aside from Kirei fight) are because of the lack of proper set up in the first two movies.
Precisely. The first two movies butcher Kirei, Illya and Rin. The sisters' relationship fucking sucks. There is no conflict and many of its nuances are gone. Aside from the Kirei fight, HF3 does most of its material fine enough.

>Not sure about the "anime onlies better than VN readers though", I hate both of them.
Hence the "often" there. Anime onlies have much less to go on than VN readers. VN readers have access to far more information yet still manage to shit out all sorts of rancid takes.

Are Nasuverse fans ever happy?

>>39846992
I was happen when the remake came out. Now I'm just anxious for red garden so when that comes out I will be happy again.

>>39846967
That's because your interactions with anime secondaries are very limited, while discussions with VN readers, so it's just a matter of sampling where you see the best of anime fags and the worst of VN readers. Most of animefags were cancer or Zerofags who are genuinely retarded.

>>39846992
I am happy when I see him happy

>>39846992
I am constantly angry. Nasu being a faggot has nothing to do with that.

>>39846875
The Melty Blood story mode is better than most Nasuverse works.

>>39846875
KnK sucks and Ryougi is very overrated

>>39846875
Last Encore is the best fate anime and is better than the original Extra

>>39847582
>better than the original Extra
wow

Koha Ace Aoko is cute

>>39846899
Neither of these are hot takes.

>>39846875
Strange Fake and Case Files are bad

>>39847638
archer and lancer staring at each other pretty gayly here

>>39847649
Maybe I should have said "unpopular opinion" for those two.

>>39847638
Cu's ass is very cute here.

>>39847649
>>39847746
UBW is all killer and no filler without a single flaw unlike Fate/HF

>>39848020
OK.

>>39848020

>>39848046
>>39848071
Do we need to go over again why Gilgamesh vs Shirou is the peak of Fate's characters, themes, and writing? UBW Archer warns that following his ideals and becoming a hero of justice is bad, Shirou denies this and continues, overcoming both "himself" and "the impossible reality of the world" through beating EMIYA and Gilgamesh

Fate and HF was full of unnecessary filler and Isekai tier unessacary and painfully long lore dumps and I mean like the worst Isekai's

>>39848071
>virgin by choice
>has a successful career and his own home
Maybe the funniest part in this.

>>39848172

secret best girls never get routes.

Gay vampire

>>39848278
Are there LGBBQT Type-Moon characters that are not rapey?

>>39848020
I would hardly say UBW is without a single flaw (first thing that comes to mind is that the ending isn't enough to offer full closure but that was fixed with the anime epilogue) but I do think it's without any major flaws like Fate and HF.

>>39846875
Despite how much I adore Kirei, ultimately the cult surrounding him is the result of broad segments of the Fate fanbase wanting to distance themselves away from the fact that FSN is a bishoujo game and the romances are central to the story.

>>39847086
Kinda true I admit. Nonetheless most anime onlies stick to themselves and are nowhere near as opinionated as your average VN reader, who by mere value of having read the VN thinks he's hot shit and a genius.

>>39845614
I really think they were right. Gook didn't actually read it, did he? I think he gets all his info from the wiki and what he learns here or other websites. Keeps missing obvious details spelled out in the text.

>>39847738
They just want to fight.

>>39848278
ciel cute

Why is Shirou like this?

>>39842675

NIISAN FUCK ME WHILE WE WE'RE HAVING SLEEPING TOHNO MANSION SLEEPOEVER

do we have elitists translation in here?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98344416

>>39848278
I wish there's at least one scene where these two get along.

>>39848172
Imagine reading the VN on one of these screens with this resolution phew

>>39848442
Fencing.

>>39848595
>elitists

>>39848172

I swear if I ever rented a theater it's definitely going to be playing tm vn's on the big screen

>>39848595
No there's only laypers here

Why is being a gook bad in /tmg/

>>39848985
We're racist like Nasu.

>>39848992
Seems unwarranted :(

>>39849007
Never forget.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

>>39845690
archer is a wholesome virgin while shirou is a dirty manwhore

>>39849107
>shirou is a dirty manwhore
>[citation needed]

>>39848985
>THE GOOK
Fixed that for you. It's the nature of their posting, not their origin.

>>39849107
Archer had a lover though.

>>39849193
OH NO HE IS SUMMONING THEM

>>39849193
Friends with benefits. Nothing more. Archer has impregnated a lot of women.

Maybe the real gook is the friends we made along the way

>>39849452
Archer can't impregnate anybody because his magic is basically like radiation to his balls.

>>39847996
type cu in google translate and set it to portuguese for a surprise. Unless you meant it and already know

>>39849452
>>39849193
>>39849594
Destined to be forever alone and betrayed, he fucked random thots and dudes at every port. No one special, he would know nothing sweet. His hands would never hold anything more meaningful than an npc. His life kind of sucked. He is now everyone's mother. What did Nasu mean by this?

They remind me of female versions of Alucard and Anderson

>>39848278
why isn't there more girl-on-girl art of these two? Their sapphic aura is super strong.

>>39849963
Arc gets pretty gay at times but Ciel just wants her to go away

>>39849963
>Sapphic Aura
There is plenty of art. It's just overshadowed because these two fighting over the same dude in canon has permeated everyone's consciousness. Thus we mostly get Pic Related which is better anyway.

>>39850046
for me its ciel doggy

>>39849963
>Their sapphic aura is super strong.
>[citation needed]

>>39850059

>>39849615
>he fucked random dudes at every port
Dumb fujo/homo.

what fate character would make the cutest dog objectively

>>39850046
It's a good yuriship, ArcShiki and CielShiki are just really, really strong right now.

>>39850157
Cu

>>39850007
It's not like Ciel needs to be forced into playing with other girls, though.

Tsuki lesbo shipping is kinda better because of how ridiculous it is. Most of the girls would prefer to murder each other than anything lmao. Hell, most of them kill Shiki too.

>>39850157
I can't believe my purple puppy has worms.

>>39850307
Well, at least Akiha/Kohaku has some degree of canonicity.

i wanna fuck ciel so bad bros

>>39850307
But it's exactly because sex and murder is so close together (even in the canon) that the girls have such strong lesbo energy with each other. Don't tell me that you didn't entertain the idea at least once, that their enmity could be solved with a vigorous night of cooming and making love.

>>39850365
Dumb yurifag.

>>39850372
That's not even really yuri, everyone is trying to kill everyone except like, Hisui. Arc is wet because Shiki killed her that one time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhAcoQuGfHg

A dumb fandisk had no right to have an OST as good as Hollow Ataraxia's.

>>39850389
I disagree with it being a dumb fandisc but I love the OST too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwr1r6ZJqfE

>>39847399
You know what? I don't think I disagree with you. The original Melty Blood story is damn solid, fun, and can be enjoyed self contained even if you know jack shit about everything else. The branching paths are also much more apparent so it doesn't feel like guess work.

>>39850419
I was just being a bit cheeky, anon.

One of the greatest weaknesses of the adaptations is probably how little they capture of the atmosphere of the original's OST. Especially the nighttime bits. Same goes for the edgy bits, too, but at least those had an excuse of not being able to be shown in anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpsfTkcDONI

>>39850365
I never had this though cross my mind while playing even once. Drag your ass back to /u/ faglord.

>>39850481
Shut up, Rin.

>>39850481
Not them.
>Drag your ass back to /u/ faglord.
Cringe.

>>39850493
Rin is 100% straight. Fucking saber was a dominance move. Like most rape.

Give me your cutest teenage Taigas.

Here, have a smug Saber.

>>39850493
Rin canonically hates /u/rifags, though.

>>39850545
Are we posting our smug pics?

>>39850548
Yeah, yeah, sure.

>>39850558
Liking women ≠ Liking yurifags.

>>39850481
>He says as he posts the canonical gay girl

>>39850470
I've always felt that the urban nighttime "feel" is a defining part of TM VNs

I'm surprised that Fate is the Type-Moon series with most homoerotic subtext in the original two works (Fate/stay night and Fate/hollow ataraxia) and yet it became their most popular series. One would expect the opposite.

>>39850637
I feel like it could be done in anime form (Boogiepop Phantom did it really well), but if they went for that sort of atmosphere it would suffer in terms of appeal. Shounen sells better than slow and atmospheric shows, even if the latter usually have a better critical reception.

>>39850654
I don't think it would translate well to anime. I think that when you're reading a VN, you want to really "hear" the music as part of the overall experience, but in an anime episode or OVA, you don't want the music to be too noticeable because you're trying to focus on the action onscreen, if that makes sense.

>>39850678
Not him.
>but in an anime episode or OVA, you don't want the music to be too noticeable because you're trying to focus on the action onscreen, if that makes sense
I couldn't disagree with this more even if I tried.

>>39850678
I was talking moreso about the atmoshpere than the music in particular, though I get what you mean. Even so, I can't agree with you, either, music can absolutely be an important element with a lot of presence. //.hack/SIGN comes to mind, the music is amazing and plays super loud in most scenes, and it somehow works.

>>39849963
are you living under a rock? There's a lot of art of them being gay. Go luck for it.

>>39850443
Yup, it also has strong character moments for Sion and Shiki. Sion is an underrated character for how well her story is told. Not to mention how music is used in the story mode to enhance fights and make them special.

>>39850686
>>39850698
Maybe I just chose my words poorly, not sure how to explain it. For example, I always get a melancholic night-walk vibe from Track 08 in Tsuki, but would it work in a hypothetical anime? Not sure - it could just be a matter of creating a good arrangement.

>>39850481
even Nasu knows that violence is related to sex he talks about characters acting on their violent impulses like a sexual impulse and the like.

>>39850539

>>39850751
IIRC the VN even did the Nier Automata thing with "did the censored bits say kill or fuck"? almost two decades sooner, the part where Shiki stalks Arc under the influence of his Nanaya blood comes to mind in particular.

>>39850751
it's even in his notes for Arc route
>Arc’s dissection scene. I want to get across the eroticism of Arc’s body and blood.
>I want to make the users taste the same feeling as Shiki who, in his abnormality, revels in dissecting a beautiful body. Sharing in that feeling of immorality, becoming complicit. As to make the ownership of that sin, and its toll, an actuality.
>This is also a matter which will greatly determine the nature of the game, so I’ll make sure to discuss it.
>The date with Arc, from the pretend play that almost became a serious act of bloodsucking to the attempted assault in the back-alley. Oh, that means that both Shiki and Arc are doing the same thing, biologically speaking. The me from back then is scary. I plotted that without realising at all. How dangerous.
You've actually gotta be fucking blind to miss it

>>39850828
where can you read his route notes?

>>39850800
>IIRC the VN even did the Nier Automata thing with "did the censored bits say kill or fuck"? almost two decades sooner
Why is it a "Nier Automata" thing?

>>39850850

>>39850851
Much more people know it from Nier Automata than they do from the Tsukihime VN.

>>39850846
idk where you would find the original one but there was a translation on beasts lair I remembered.
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8996-Tsukihime-Tsuushin-R-Nasu-Kinoko-s-Arcueid-Route-Memo

>>39850878
fuck off petrilow

>>39850908
I don't even know who these people are

>>39850908
What did he do?

By the way, I just checked and even though natsuhiko kyogoku is said to be a huge inspiration for Nasu I can't find a single translated work of his on the usual sites. Bummer.

>>39850470
Midnight Interval is a great track. I think the first two tracks that come to mind when I think of FSN's atmosphere are Wandering Shadow and Shinshoku~Shinshoku 2.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSyaENS3_2s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=906QwGwN9pQ

>>39850952
I'm yet to see any of the HF films so I don't know if they incorporated it, but Trespassing (Shinshoku) is such a creepy track. I love it.

Tracks that come to my mind besides these...Deep Slumber is definitely one of them, as is Spiral of Fate, Madder Red Town, Peaceful Scenery, and Pursuing Minds lmao. Into the Night and Extra are also obvious answers.

>>39850935
There's always the anime.

>>39846875
I enjoy all of Nasu's works.

Including the anime and manga adaptions.

>>39851110
including the gacha?

>>39850443
Agreed. OG MB is basically a VN one of the best stories. It's literally Sion's tsuki route. Though I guess MB in general is.

>>39850157

>>39850751
Sure, absolutely. But that doesn't extend to every bout of violence between any character. It's most present and imperative to the relationship between Arc and Shiki. I'll always be surprised that Nasu didn't realize what he wrote because the duality of these two and the importance of sexual tension, violent urges and their true nature contrasted with overcoming it all helped define their love and romance as being so compelling and beautiful. Nasu kinda based.

>>39851133
Why is castoriaposter so rapeable

>>39851335
they're like a sad little dog that doesn't realize where it is and keeps barking in order to get attention. It's cute to me.

Why is everybody gay (or straight) for Castoriaposter now?

>>39851241
well yeah, not all of it, but you can see the clear sexual tension between Arc and Ciel with Arc mentioning not feeling this kind of tension/high in a long time in a sexual way. Nasu is pretty clear on when it becomes sexual.

>>39851365
See, I wouldn't say it's clear sexual tension. You can headcanon it is and even argue that the writer may want to tease that but to say it's anything other than antagonism is not reality.

>>39851365
Ciel is special, other than Shiki she's the only one who Arc really acknowledges as such. Obviously not in the same capacity however. Arc doesn't want to fuck Ciel. She's jealous, riled up, frustrated and wants to assert dominance. Ciel actually gets under her skin and Arc is also a battle junkie who likes payback. She wants prove that she's stronger, better and to in general humiliate Ciel/trample on her pride. It's a beautiful and distorted rivalry turned friendship more than anything.

>>39851382
>>39851456
Either you guys are acting like dense harem protags or I'm wrong. Anyone else find TA Arc and Ciel talking to each other when they fight each other kinda sexual in Melty Blood AACC arcade mode? That's the one I'm referring to as an example.

>>39851500
Kys homosexual. Your mind is rotten.

>>39851500
>MB arcade shit
That's just fan service.

>>39851382
>>39851456
It's not the same as with Shiki and it's not actually romantic, but there's pretty obvious vibes when Arc gets Warc-y, even if it's completely one-sided.
In reality it's just a somewhat one-sided obsession from Arc to break Ciel as her favorite toy and things related to Ciel, but still. Thought that counts.

I fucking HATE Ciel and I fucking HATE curry

>>39851505
>>39851515
Huh, could've sworn Arc says that Ciel is special in the same way Shiki is to her. Could it be lost in translation or am I making things up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfzSzFdadr0&ab_channel=Austin

>>39851549
timestamp this shit nigga

>>39851534
and i hate YOU

>>39851538
So gay

>>39851527
I mean, I actually agree with this though? Kind of? You have the reality of what it really is and then the meta subtext(vibes I guess?) the author is leaving in the air if you so wish to see it that way. Like, sure, it's meant to be a sexual cast of characters with all the blood, vampire themes, violence and what have you. That extends to Shiki, Akiha, all of them mostly. It's just looking at it in terms of the story it's not really there since the conflict and nature of their relationship isn't about an attraction or anything between them. They do go from enemies to frienemies to sister-wives anyway so whatever lol. Part of Ciel's Melty story arc is coming to coexist with Arc.

Armfit

>>39851623
What am I looking at?

armpits are gay

>>39851657
Good.

>>39851651
Literally armfit

>>39850935
>What did he do?
he's an attention whore

https://twitter.com/geno_cl/status/1526608490411610114?s=21&t=U6I-aOgHbZW3KLp5BSJsZw

never forget

Hmm...fat Aoko.

>>39851921
nice translation

>>39851921
based

>>39851667
Artist?

>>39851921
It's okay, all of it goes to her boobs.

>>39851964
can you provide proof of that?

someone post that red arc+shiki fanart where she's got him chained up and wrapped around him while they are fighting.

>>39851975

https://twitter.com/L0annes/status/1526523392244912129/photo/1

>>39852022
Good point. Still not fully convinced however.

>>39851852
Lesbo Armfit

>>39845922

>>39845976
>>39845922

>>39851921
Aoko has full control over managing her physique.
So she can really eat as much as she likes, and can just burn the food into mana.

>>39852053
Just look at the original cover art!

>>39852412
>>39852022
What is flatties problem?

>>39852482
...nothing.

alice best mahoyo

>>39852482
I don't see any flatties there.

>>39846875
Gilgamesh isn't an asshole, he is just misunderstood

>>39853518
You may think you can save him, but in reality you will never be a woman

>>39853611
artist?

>>39853876
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/44142028

>>39852004
this?

>>39853889
Yes thank you<3

>>39853933
still think it's crazy that shiki doesn't have a warc reaction in TL but Nasu's probably saving it for half vampire

>>39854008
Don't they have unique battle dialogue? i can't remember if they have anything special for arc drives, intro, outros or anything. I think Red Arc has a specific quote for Shiki on her last arc but maybe not the other way around. I hope we get vampire Shiki. I wonder if we will!?

Anyone know whether Garden of Avalon has been translated by a human somwhere?
BeastLair said only 3 chapters were left, but the mongoltards didn't bother saying where the TL is

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT NO WAY THEY HAD SEX NASU?

>>39854448
So I checked out the one translation done by the reddit MTL guy
Don't bother with that one. It's beyond garbage...

>>39854448
They probably meant the reddit one. No one else is going to translate it so that's your only option currently.
Or you can learn the language of course.

>>39847582
No it's not, Last Encore is trash.

>>39854645
No it's good

>>39854261
Red Arc has a lot of dialogue for Shiki but he has none for her

>>39854713
It's not.

Zelretch And Arcueid

>>39854876
It is.

Is Rin a bigger prodigy sue than Hermione from Harry Potter?

>>39855826
No because the tohsaka gene ensures she fucks up when it counts the most.

>>39855826
>prodigy sue
Dunno what that is but the scene in the anime where Rin tries on the glasses was cute and hot

>>39855826
Dunno, but Rin is hotter than her.

>>39855943
I'd impregnate both desu

>>39855895
That's not actually a thing though -- Rin just feels insecure about her own abilities and lacks self-esteem. It's just something she uses to reproach herself over her failures, real and imagined.

>>39855439
It's not.

>>39855439
>>39856091
Instead of repeating "It is" "It is not", state your reasons you fucking retards.

Remember when Nasu mentioned considering a futa H-scene between Arc and Ciel? Yeah, no sexual tension to be read at all. Especially not in the same world where Akiha wants to "break" Seo "just because".

>>39856013
Rin's potential is sue-ish, though.

>Medea > you
>Merlin is the bestest mage
>No, tis Solomon!
>NO! IT IS ZELRETCH!!!

s i g h

>>39856409
typical eroge fanservice garbage, good thing the best version of tsukihime is removing all of that unnecessary crap.

>>39856409
Based literal yurifag.

>>39856577
Yeah, but sometimes I wonder how much of it is just fanservice, and how much of it Nasu/Takeuchi inserting their random fetishes even when it doesn't fit, and which parts of these are actually the weird part of the characters.

>>39846875
The UBW 2014 TV anime designs for Rin is one of the best ones and the one for the HF movies is the single worst one of them all. Aside from her body, her face looks like trash. They gave one of the most expressive characters in FSN a resting bitch face.

>>39856447
Being a Mary Sue is about the absense of flaws, not one's competence per se.

>>39857014
>The UBW 2014 TV anime designs for Rin is one of the best ones

But her nose!

There's really a retard calling Tohsaka a Mary sue when Ryougi is right there lmao

>>39857071
Ryougi isn't any less of a "Mary sue" than Shirou or Shiki. You really should stop picking up on her like that.

>>39856447
being a sue isn't a about power

>>39857053
...looks fine 90% of the time. Strange how butthurt people got over a few frames in the early episodes. Meanwhile HF Rin only really looks good the closer she looks to Tabata's design. Funny how non-Rinfags seem to whine much, MUCH harder about her UBW design while fawning over her shitty HF design. Do people really not get the character that hard?

>>39857071
People keep saying this but I don't get how Ryougi is a Mary Sue.

They are so cute

>>39857276
They deserved that amusement park after school playdate, damn you Nasu!

>>39857564
Shinji's Hanafuda ending.

>>39857014
>Being a Mary Sue is about the absense of flaws
It has taken on new meanings. Also don't pretend that her potential isn't flawless and highly coveted by the Clocktower.
>>39857107
Well now it is. Flawless prodigies are gay.

>>39857807
>It has taken on new meanings.
No, it hasn't. It's about a character without meaningful flaws that warps the story, the rules of the story and the characters around them to extreme degree. It is not a synonym for "when the female has strong powers"

explain this

>>39857829
I'm sorry, but Rin is flawless.

>>39857829
>It is not a synonym for "when the female has strong powers"
lol

>>39857852
explain what

>>39857852
good stuff

>>39857852
>no shiki x arcueid doujin
>full of yuri garbage
>fgo??
i thought we are supposed to get good doujin after the release of the remake but so far it's been very lackluster.

>>39858064
18+ doujinshi are dead for anything that's not a gacha.

>>39857852
Honorary Tsukihime girl

>>39857852

Tsukihime has changed.

It's no longer about rape, rape or rape. It's an endless series of yuris bought by fans and depressed fans.

Tsukihime and it's consumption of doujins has become niche

Tsukihime has changed.

>>39858064
>no Arach doujins
>no Mio doujins
>no Saiki doujins
what went so fucking wrong?

>>39857829
Explain to me how Rin isn't too good for her age?

She fucking BTFO'd Medea, of all people. Honestly sickening writing.

>>39857829
>Rin is bad because of what she might be like in the future instead of in the actual story
What?

>>39857855
How is she flawless lmao

>>39858073
dissapointing. i suppose they will get more doujin when they drop into the gacha, not sure if i should be happy or sad about that. oh well at least we got that akiha doujin.

>>39858111
>punches an old hag
Rin too OP, nerf fucking when Nasu?

>>39858111
>She fucking BTFO'd Medea
She literally just kicked her wow.

illya is superior to rin at magic and does not come across as sue-ish to me

Mary sue = female character I don't like

There, simplified the discussion for you guys.

>>39858167
This but ironically.

>>39858167
>Ryougi was actually a Mary Sue
I can't believe /tmg/ was actually right...

There's no way the people respected a king that was only 154 cm.

>>39858111
Again, not what that means.

>>39858198
People were manlets back in those days.

>>39858064
Cielfags won the long game

>>39858208
She has flawless capabilities for her age, spaz. No flaws to her character except for loltsundere.

>>39858198
There's no way the people respected a king that was female.

>>39858167
They just say that because they can't self insert as her. She isn't that much stronger than Tohno and doesn't get too many asspulls like Shirou.

>>39858218
The entire "LARP as a cold magus" thing is a character flaw, but I guess that doesn't count because lolreasons

>>39858214
>2 Arc/Ciel, new so doing hot
>3 Shiki/Ciel, still up there
>still no Noel
It's OVER...

>>39858241
Retard

>>39858218
You have to be trolling. Fuck, you're falseflagger trying to start shit between Aokofags and Rinfags aren't you?

How accurate is my list of /tmg/'s favorite girls of each TM work?
>Mahoyo
Aoko
>Tsukihime
Ciel
>Fate
Rin
>F/GO
Castoria

>>39858252
They're on fire today, literally trying to start every war possible.

>>39858252
>You have to be trolling
"I don't like you, therefore troll >:("

>>39858254
/tmg/ is an alice general.

>>39858153
That's because Rin is used as exposition girl. Touko also comes off as sue-ish in KnK

>>39858254
r w r lol

What's your favourite non-erotic CG from either of the Fate VNs?

>>39858306
How the hell is Touko a Sue?

>>39858331
Not him but he's probably thinking of her supreme confidence, knowledge, and ability to outplay everyone in 4D chess.

>>39858329

>>39858254
I think it's Arc. One schizo keep spamming doesn't mean much.
>>39858276
You wish lol.

>>39858355
I don't know if the movies mention it but it's made even more painful when you realize that the Illya line of homunculi are all modeled after the one Zouken fell in love with. Justeaze was her name, I think?

>>39858355
All the best CGs are realta nua.

>>39858386
Which CGs were added in realta nua? I read the non-RN version of the Fate route, so I wonder if I missed out on some CGs.

>>39858377
It makes you realize that the entire Matou family are cucks.

>>39858329