/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>$10K
hahaha

You wouldn't even be able to buy one with that.

chobits was such a beautiful anime.
why don't they animate all clamp adaptaions this way?

>>3963046

You probably would, but it would be a low feature model. Robots will be sold like cars. The good news is you'll be able to afford fancier models as time passes and new technologies become standard at certain price ranges.

After the 2040s, the differences between android and human-derived cyborg will be minimal. Relationships between the two will be commonplace as androids become increasingly intelligent, conscious, and emotional. That is not good news for /jp/. However, those older, dumber models aren't going to go anywhere. Save the $10k for the 2040s so you can get a used top-of-the-line pre-consciousness/pre-human-equivalent model.

I'm certain that Chobits is 100 years off if not more. Sucks man. Though I also believe anti aging will be available in another 60 years so I just need to live till then.

>>3963099
I will love my 2020 model until the day I die.

robots will cost at least $50k

>>3963099

How about I just transpose my consciousness into one of the robot bodies and then live forever?

Fuck yeah robots

>>3963116
Well, I personally believe virtual reality will be available in another 30. 50 for places to pop up offering to permanently connect you to VR.

So, while we're on the topic of Robots, does anyone have more pics like this?

I've got about 10k as well, but I haven't started working yet. After rent, food, utilities, and internet all the money is going into my robot fund.

Anyway, anyone here familiar with the robotics field? ETAs on when common people will be able to buy one?

>>3963116

100 years on a linear scale, sure. Translate that into the real-world exponential scale, and it'll take much less time than you'd expect.

The next massive paradigm shift is predicted to happen in the 2040s. That's when the current exponential trend peaks. What that trend will entail can be extrapolated from the direction modern technology has been taking. Namely: a transition to strong AI, reverse engineering of the brain, brain-computer interfacing, and integration of electronics closer to our person.

IBM has a computer that rivals a cat's brain in computational capacity. That's not a small accomplishment. It took nature 4 billion years to do what technology has done in less than 100. Exponential trends are delicious.

>>3963024
>$10K
Don't worry, OP. If you keep that in a savings account, you will accumulate enough via interest to purchase one when they become commercially available.

>>3963194

You can buy one now: http://www.physorg.com/news180018368.html

$225,000 and the robot is pretty basal, but you can compare its state with the state of cell phone technology in the 80s. Extremely expensive, big, bulky, and essentially terrible in performance. The price-performance has increased substantially and now ~4 billion people have cell phones that outperform the 80s models by a factor of a million. The same thing is happening with robots.

Personally I'd be happy with an awesome AI waifu on the pc or something

>>3963225
Goddamn, I saw what you did there. ;_;

>>3963244

Oh yeah, ETAs.

By 2029, machines could be convincingly human (by passing the Turing Test). The 2030s are predicted to be the robotics revolution, akin to the genetic revolution we're currently in (nanotech is the 2020s revolution). 2040-50 marks the peak of progress in modern trends and hints at a convergence between biology and technology. So around the mid-2030s, robots/androids should be commonplace.

>>3963317
The only reason I stay alive is so I can see this stuff come to be.

Why isn't there an option to Spectate, rather than be involved in living?

>>3963345
I wonder why but i do love the option to spectate for eternity.

>>3963345
>>3963375
Called suicide, bro.

Or get frozen in carbonite or something.

>>3963400
Spectating by suicide depends heavily on whether an after life of some sort exists. And no one knows that.

Getting frozen is expensive and I don't have that kind of money.
They also don't know how to unfreeze you, but I don't really mind.

>>3963345

Spectating's bad for your brain. Any retirement home is proof of it. Once you stop keeping your brain active, you're finished.

It could be circumvented outside of a biological body that's ready to kill you at the first sign of your brain's senescence, but that's a long-term technology. You have to work to get on the technological bridges that'll enable you to live long enough to live forever (or maybe volunteer as a guinea pig).

>>3963422
>Once you stop keeping your brain active, you're finished.
I'm on 4chan. /jp/, no less, where I spend most of my days either refreshing various 4chan boards, or playing VNs and looking at which girls I like in them.

>>3963449

I'm sure you do something that requires learning a new task, like getting VNs to work. You're probably actively taking in the culture built up around all of this too, whether you notice it or not. That's more or less keeping you busy.

Age has to do with it too, so you'll be around for a while. You'll just be around for longer if you keep your brain active by learning new things. It can be anything from languages to how to effectively use software. As long as it isn't overly passive, it qualifies.

>>3963410
How much does getting frozen cost? And do they let anyone do it, or do you have to pass some requirements?

>>3963159
The day humanity has affordable permanent VR, LIFE WILL END.

>>3963521
No it won't, it'll just evolve. Only, instead of nature causing the evolution, humans will recreate themselves.

>>3963514

Freezing is going to tear apart your neurons. The only likely method for getting your consciousness back is by reconstructing the general pattern of your brain through nanobots. That calls into question whether you'd be you with the result since the continuity of your consciousness pattern was severed severely. It could lead to what you know as you dying, but the you that continues on being thoroughly convinced you're still you.

The best way to become immortal is to travel into the future when the technologies will be available to rejuvenate oneself indefinitely. So how do we travel into the future? How do we build a time machine? Simple.

Construct a space ship equipped with a light sail in orbit and then accelerate towards the speed of light. If you average 0.5x the speed of light over 2 days, time on earth will travel a bit faster relative to your own such that once you return to earth, approximately 120 years will have passed due to time dilation. Unfortunately, accelerating towards 0.5x the speed of light would cause you to undergo many thousands of G's of force, which would turn you into liquid. So you'd probably have to spread your trip out over the course of a year or two. It takes around 170 days to reach 0.5x the speed of light at a constant 2G's of force of acceleration.

I should start saving.

>>3963587
I bet someone like Bill Gates would be able to afford to do that. $50 billion and 10 years should be adequate for a reasonably sized spacecraft.

He's literally pissing his money away on philanthropy when he could be securing a ticket for immortality.

I should start saving too.

>>3963165
There's a robot-themed imageboard somewhere, google it.

I'm planning to be a renowned physicist by then so I'll be able to develop my own robots.

>>3963573
>since the continuity of your consciousness blah blah blah

Enjoy dying today in your sleep.

>>3963573

At that point, one can "cogito ergo sum".