/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Next Thursday.

>>39536622
Is this the creme de la creme of NTRge?

>>39536718

>>39536718
That's gatenkei

>>39537136
>gatenkei
Can't take that clown MC seriously.

>>39537233
Exactly, because NTR is a joke

>>39537233
Wrong Gatenkei.

>>39537233
His character "development" is based

>>39537276
These two had really good chemistry. Those interactions are exquisite.

>>39537377
The best NTRge are the ones that are a genuinely good love story at the start. Gatenkei is astonishingly well written for what it is.

>>39537387
Yeah and it wasn't just filler SoL in gatenkei. Like each scene had a purpose and they slowly built up their dynamic by putting thought into those interactions.

https://twitter.com/News_VIP_Blog/status/1517432553858564097

>>39538259
H-scenes are whatever, but it's nice to know it won't be stuck on the shitty Switch anymore.

>>39538297
Yeah, good thing i can just run pc copy with textractor and dictionary (not mtl) now.
Who needs h scenes anyway? More than often i just skim them and jerk off to some doujin instead.

>>39538315
>textractor and dictionary (not mtl)
Nice meme, MTLfag.

>>39538326
Nah bro, jp-en mtl sucks, would never do this. Spanish -> en is pretty good tho.

>>39538336
It's actually not that bad, but due to its nature completely craps out on some sentences. And it doesn't know context of course (like 出来上がっていた).

>>39538581
Deutsch to English must be zero effort to TL back and forth.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kjRcwMn9xHE
So... did they fuck in public.

>>39538806
Haha, I wish. Anytime I translate from japanese to english, I'm amazed how many words and phrases don't really have an english counterpart to a straightforward german translation. But it work pretty well for plain text like articles and the like.

>>39538806
Enjoy your gendered objects bro
Honestly surprising the japs started doing random objects turned into cute girls before the germans

>>39536718
its hard to classify hajikano as NTR by the end of it tbqh

>>39538985
Fuck off, hata.

>>39536639
Dumbest frog poster

>>39539197
literally who

Having almost 1k random screenshots from my active VN reading period a few years back, figured I'd post a random one once in a while here. Might give people an idea of what to read with not exactly much coming out anymore.
I'm not exactly the biggest "mainstream" type, and generally just picked up whatever I felt was interesting, rather than what's considered super awesome.

So, pic related.

>>39539036
what the fuck else could it possibly be? are you a retard?

>>39539036
Akino is the real protagonist so yeah

>>39539659
Come on, add source at least.

>>39539682
come for the NTR, stay for the 青春 angst. read it and find out.

>>39539393
What’s the name of that VN?? ⋆꒰⑉• •⑉꒱

>>39540090
no one cares that your ntrge has other stuff between the ntr, ntrnigger

>>39539659
I recognise that tachie

>>39540116
but you were the one asking in the first place. what's with the rude tone?

>>39540178
it was rhetorical niggerdick eater

>>39540111
>>39499277

>>39539036
You mean it ends on a non-ntr happy note or what

>>39540224
not exactly. it's more so that Akino ends up hijacking the story by the end of it so it becomes more about her than the actual relationship.

i wish i could see the faces of the people that manage to consider ntr nukige lifechanging kamige

>>39540247
So does she stop being a slut?

>>39540331

>>39540384
nah i mean, you somehow manage to be an even bigger loser than the most pathetic moebuta

>>39540336
Once a slut is a slut forever, more so if the slut in question is a literal prostitute.

>>39540331
The cucks are mentally ill, you have better things to do with your time than interacting with them.

>>39540331
I can understand people who had their life changed by some NTRge that proposed open relationships as a way to resolve the issue.

>>39540336
Play it and find out, I don't think summaries can do the game justice

>>39540655
Yeah but I first want to know just one thing: whether the slut in question reforms or doubles down or unchanged by the end.

I dropped Hajikano before the NTR started because I was trying to fap to every scene but the ones with MC were way too long, boring and too many, how did people do it? Just CTRL through the MC perspective section? I wanted to see the girl fall but it was taking too long.

>>39540707
It's a bit more complicated than that.
>>39540825
Just don't fap to the h-scenes? MC perspective still has some nice scenes. Satoshi is based.

Hajikano would've been better if there was another girl in the relationship to have a 3P with.

>>39539659
>Having almost 1k random screenshots from my active VN reading period a few years back
I take like 1k per VN I read.

>>39538259
Nice.

>>39538297
No, no in this case. I need my fucking H. The girls are all adorable.

>>39538297
The game is full of sex designs and sex implications, h-scenes are not whatever for it.

New game from LIFE0 (non-h steam demography targeting company)
Can't play any of their games but the art looks cute.

>>39538259
Great news.

Was this Magatsu CG on the Switch version? Or are they adding new gore to the PC version?

>>39541166
That's new. And if I recall correctly, they never said anything about why Gramps died. I thought it was just typical old age so this seems important. I guess he was killed by a マガツ or something.

>>39541122
Nevermind, this isn't a newly announced game. It comes out in 5 days.
Sorry for the fake news.

>>39541226
Yeah we already talked about it. Pretty emabrassing for you.

>>39539659
starting reading this as my first alicesoft game and had no expectations but it's really good, also has one of the best 鈍感 protags I've read in eroge

>>39541279
Kind of a weird choice to be your first. Most would've picked Rance, the Choukou or Dai series instead.

>check gallery for VN I'm interested in
>it has a single group scene
Not sure if it's optional, but I'd prefer my game not to be made by cuckolds.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Empress_STAFF/status/1517485200493539328 new empress game

>>39541568
>more scatge
No thanks

>>39541410
What VN?

>>39542090
https://vndb.org/v5589

And also this one that an anon in the last thread posted: https://vndb.org/v10491

>>39542335
>only one vote
where the fuck do you guys even find this shit

>>39542351
>he's not the only vote on some game on vndb

>>39542351
>search for random tags/traits that sound interesting
>refresh vndb main page and check out the screenshots
I can spend hours on this, but my backlog is already brusting.

>>39542475
>Realize I do the same thing, check VNDB
>141 VNs on my wishlist, little under 10 downloaded.
>I have NEVER finished a VN.
Just fuck my shit right up, lads.

>>39542335
Still reading Trade Off, struggling with the flag system being split into both choices and noticing stuff to click on in the background with the camera having 30 slightly different positions where you could possibly notice things. I spent an hour this morning staring at the screen trying to find a lead to avoid a bad end.

>>39542475
>>39542590
My wishlist is 10X longer than the number of VN's I've played let alone finished.

>>39542475
>>refresh vndb main page and check out the screenshots
I do that sometimes. They should add a random function that throws out 50 random screenshots or something like that

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1517428914272215043
Glad I didn't play the inferior version.

>>39543021
yo nice *unzips* *cooms in your face*

How's the new Saga Planets trial?

>>39543081

>>39543138
That's it. Eroge of the year right here.

>>39542641
Not quite as bad for me, though I consider any novel "finished" where I finished all routes that interested me.

>>39543293
One more account to stalk.

>>39543341
I assure you I didn't just score it that high because it was one of the earlier ones I've read. Give it a try, sherlock.

>>39541122
>Dreamin' Her
They just translated 彼女 literally lol

I want a new full priced Pulltop H game with Asta writing it.

The second fanbook and the trial of chapter II coming soon:
https://www.makura-soft.com/staffpage/staffpage.html

>>39538259
Fuck yeah. X-rated announcement came faster than expected.

>>39540041
This wasn't supposed to be the first one yet. But yeah, you probably know it by now anyway.

>>39540994
I'm lazy, so I generally only take few screenshots, when I feel like it's worthwhile.

>>39541279
It's actually way more fun than Fire Emblem, if you ask me. The base building and greed you can do with it, combined with systems that allow you to deal with crap RNG level ups are quite nice.


Anyway. For starters a Higurashi reference.

>>39546327
Followed by School Days. I never actually watched/read(?) that one.

>>39546337
anime reference, the song too

>>39546327
>>39546337
This CG is copypasted from their previous title Shukufuku no Kane no Ne.

I love the USA.

>>39542841
I found new ones by listening to eroge songs. If it has a 10/10 OP/ED, it's inevitably a kamige.

>>39547560
Will you be playing this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ITIXYp9Te4

>>39547602
I'm not saying it's not a good movie, but it's not a great song.

>>39546144
>second fanbook and the trial of chapter II
Sca-jesus Christ just fucking release the VN already

Bros will Masada ever write anything new again...

>>39548069
Just wait for the Avesta VN. Any day now.

>>39546144
>chapter II
I hope this doesn't turn into yuri shit too. Looks like naoya and kei's chapter.

this looks like a ripoff of the manga/anime series parasyte and after looking it up on EGS seems to be a hidden gem, I'm interested https://vndb.org/v1432

http://www.denmo.tv/index03.shtml
Kitaooji Yuki watching an h-scene of one of her characters is really cute.

>>39548618
god damn she's ugly

>>39548654
No, Kitaooji Yuki is the seiyuu off-screen.

Which one are we playing

>>39548842
Something that's actually good

What is going on with this game? It's been delayed for a year already. Is it dead?

>>39549261
covid

>>39549269
Yea, maybe. The company it still running so I assume one of the writers or artists got seriously ill, or died, in that case. I hope they release it eventually. It's still displayed on their official site, after all.

>>39547602
Based eroge OP's getting through the Youtube filter.

>>39548842
How much did sayooshi cost ya?

>>39549443
Huh, it's age restricted though?

>>39550890
Do you get ads, too?

>>39551226
I've never seen an ad on youtube since I use an adblocker

>>39551277
Then you should get the Age Restriction Bypass plugin as well.

>>39551352
Huh, I usually use yt-dlp/mpv and yt-dlp had a bypass but it broke. I assumed that userscript would break too.

>>39551386
Not that anon but the userscript still works

>>39549453
Not mine, sorry. It's from Twitter. But expect around 12000-40000¥ for the BD version and 50000-98000¥ for the original 2001 version.

>>39551386
That was fixed a long while ago IIRC. Unless google broke the trick they use to get around age restrictions again.

>>39548842
theyre all shit

Does Ever Maiden get better? Just about done with the Marco arc.

>>39548370
>純愛触手ADV
>OP/ED by Rita
You got me. I pick this one as the first (and probably last) tentacle game that I will play.

>>39554469
Yeah, it was fixed again, but only on the 8th, so not that long ago

Test

>>39555683
Obligatory screenshot.

>>39556352
Did it work?

Dos this count as untranslated?

Trying to set up Swan Song as my first game with wine but I keep getting an insert CD error on launch. I saw a guide mention using cdemu instead of mount, but that didn't help either. Is there a nocd patch somewhere? I couldn't find one sadly

>>39558708
as soon as I posted I saw there:s a DL版, brb gonna check that

All right, it works. Also, thanks to the anon who recced me the x220, it's really comfy.

glad you like it

Is this nigga supposed to be Lelouch or something?

>>39560099
I too, regret tearing the tendons in my arm trying to bend my fingers like that

I hate her stupid hat. She should just keep it off forever.

>>39560124
i thought she had a floating ahoge for a second

>>39560099
literally me

下ネタ王 has met his match.

futamato bros...

>>39540331

Hi anons, can someone upload original Tsukihime installed files? Im currently on android and cant install it myself

>>39567194
Use something that respects your freedoms like a pinephone

All of the uploads of Tsukihime i can find are in a bin cue or img ccd sub formats, so i cant open them on android. Or maybe someone knows how to return japanese to install files

Wait, reading VN's on phones is accepted here now?

>>39567400
Nigga what happened to your PC

>>39567533
Why not? Reading VNs on your phone lying on your bed is pretty comfy. You also won't alt tab to 4chan all the time.

>>39567533
why wouldn't it

>>39567533
Most things wouldn't work on a phone anyway so if anon wants to suffer that's on him.

>>39567558
>You also won't alt tab to 4chan all the time.
Hehe..yeah, why would anyone want to do that...

>>39567533
Yeah when I am at uni. I take my laptop with me but I don't wanna play eroge in it. Smartphone's small screen comes in handy to secretly play VNs during classes.

>>39567673
>Reading with no voices, music or effects
Just read a real book instead.

>>39567534
War in Ukraine, so only android for now

>>39567828
Just plop your ass to Poland.

>>39567828
Hope russian rocket is gonna blow away your little brain, ukrainian piggy.

>>39567931
This is why the civilized world hates you tankies.

>>39567828
can you assassinate that zelensky guy?

>>39567980
Good think civilized world can't do anything about it. Just like civilized world keep on buying russian gas and oil, to fuel Special Operation. You're so fucked, piggie.

>>39567828
good luck anon.

>>39568007
Eventually your internet will get cut and you won't be able to pirate anymore, among other amenities. Enjoy being China's bitch.

What the actual fuck is wrong with anglos? This sounds disgusting.

>>39568344
It's quite nice actually.

>>39568364
Yet you're the first ones to go "yuck raw fish"

>>39568364
ok nigel

>>39567809
>>Reading with no voices, music or effects
What? Use headphones bro

>>39568462
Either you're in a lecture hall or your professor is that cool to let you put them on in class.

>>39567673
>>39568462
Pay attention in class. If you are studying some bullshit liberal arts class where you don't need to pay attention, then get a real degree.

>>39568500
I only go to those shitty classes to fulfill attendance criteria. They are pretty much useless.

>liberal arts
Econ major

>>39568596
>Econ
nice pseudoscience

remember figu@mate

>>39568612
I know lol
It's just bullshit concocted to justify decisions elites already decided to take. But who cares when you can make money

>>39568656
kek, fair enough

Why is eroge archival so pathetic in the west?
Chinks are making archives of all eroge ever uploaded on baidu while you struggle to find working downloads of muramasa

>>39568666
Westerners are against piracy because of moralism similar to nips. It's only chinks and slavs who do that shit with passion.

Realized that pic related is the literary equivalent of Oretsuba.

>>39568666
Eroge is a niche hobby.

>>39568666
dunno man, I never have too much trouble finding shit

>>39568666
They don't respect property/intellectual/copy rights unlike the west.

Who is mishima of VN medium?

>>39568794
He appears as a girl in Hanachirasu.

>>39568656
At least play something related to your major.

>>39568683
Mentally ill teenager wanders about his school and city interacting with a variety of eccentric characters who all speak in precisely styled colloquial dialogue, and he also has a cute imouto.

>>39568926
i majored in japanese studies, so everything is related

>>39568988
Can you read KKK fluently?

>>39568998
i don't know what that is

>>39569010
Get to it.

>>39568683
Oretsuba is about the loss of innocence? They are nothing alike.

>>39569084
>>39568981

>>39568926
Is there a single VN with consistently accurate physics?

>>39568750
and you do?

>>39569123
Quantum physics?

>>39569195
Don't ask for the impossible. I'd be shocked if a game gets Newtonian physics correct.

STEM fags really have it tough. Their autism doesn't allow them any degree of suspension of disbelief in fiction.

>>39569195

>>39569263
I read it, I know.

>>39569263
Someone remind me what this is. My memory is rusty. I thought it was supposed to be a Hamiltonian at first, but that doesn't seem correct.

>>39569366
Oh as soon as I typed that, I remembered that's Schrodinger's equation.

surely einstein yori ai o komete has some physics stuff right

>>39569366
The right side is a Hamiltonian

>>39569217
The trick is to find pleasure in pointing out incorrect physics in eroge.

>>39569408
lol

You're ignoring the fact that the intended demographic of these games aren't exactly STEM majors. Studios aren't incentivized to completely fact check their science.

I refuse to accept that's the official romanization of her name.

>>39570650
>nips can't into romaji
What else is new?

>>39570707
They are multiple systems. The one you're used to is just the most common one in the west.

>>39570734
Yes, but a system that spells it "Tukikadozima", which is nowhere close to how her name is actually pronounced, is wrong.

>>39570707
i know why they do it (sometimes) but i hate when they butcher loan words
like i've seen it a few times on restaurant signs, but ピッツァ sounds exactly like the english pronunciation but they almost always use ピザ, makes me sad 　

>>39570752
retard

>>39570752
No it's not.
た ta て te ち ti と to つ tu

>>39570752
>Kunrei-shiki is wrong because I said so!

>>39570815

>>39570834

i think it is because they are mostly familiar with it from typing into their IME

>>39568666
Lack of a platform. The only popular and public one is Nyaa, and torrents are unreliable by nature.

>>39571160
I bet he gets triggered to no end whenever he has to type づ as "du"

>>39571160
it's because they couldn't care less how it's pronounced in english

>>39541568
>more scatge
Thanks

>>39569539
I'm unironically too smart for these self-insert protagonists. Why do they always make those guys retards that barely pass their classes? It takes me out of it. I could at least self-insert into a midwit.

>>39571948
>midwit
Those are the worst. At least retard protags can be endearing like a dumb but cute animal.

>>39571990
Baka that is an actual character is good. Baka that you're actually supposed to self-insert to (like 鈍感 played straight) is insufferable.

>>39572003
If you can't sympathize with stupid people, then you have low EQ.

>>39572029
>EQ
This is cope stupid people came up with.

>>39572047
You're the kind who would parade around that he got INTJ on a Myers-Briggs test though.

>>39572066
how did you know?

>>39572086
I have high EQ
And possibly IQ

reminder that psychology is also not a real science

If you had to recommend only one, which vn would you say is the most painful you've read?

>>39572797
Totono was pretty painful to read.

>>39568666
>archive
>baidu
Cloudshit that could be deleted in a minute is not a proper archive

are all of the amakano games worth playing? i've heard a lot about 2 but i downloaded the complete pack with the first 3 i think and their fds

>>39572185
Eroge that has it as a theme make for a wild ride though.

>>39574428
If you want cutesy pure-love moege with some vigorous sex, absolutely. They do nothing original but do what they do very well.

i know i'm a retard but, none of the resolution/window settings seem to change this

This might be something to ask the buyfag thread, but is there a good place to buy older (ie, basically everything beyond ~3 years of release) hard copies?
Do I just scour auctions if it isn't on toranoana/getchu/amazon.jp etc.

>>39574624
Change what?

>>39574428
I love Amakano series. One of the few moege I find interesting. It has great H scenes, fantastic art, and the heroines don't look like moe blobs typical in this genre. Also the H scenes are pretty long. They often come with post coitus bed talks.

>>39574428
i love the first one... the others are kinda meh to me somehow

>>39574428
I liked 2 and it had a route that I actually managed to finish for once before getting bored. Theyre all pretty much the same game through and through, if you liked one youll probably like the others.

>>39571234
What about the spics and SEA

Is there even a single VN where a female MC gets genderbent into boy?

>>39576603
>SEA
https://www.ryuugames.com/vnr-tutorial-menggunakan-visual-novel-reader-lengkap/

Pretty sure girlcelly is from somewhere around there as well.

Dunno about the spics but H-Suki admin is a frog.

>>39568666
Chinks can read jap more or less, west can't.

>>39568680
>slavs
Can't read jap either but have a culture of piracy since like the dawn of internet (because poorfags coupled with fast internet speed)

What a sexy chart. So many bad ends already.

>>39577442
A-S admin is SEA

>>39574864
I would've told you to scour Mandarake and Trader at Akiba, but I'm guessing you're outside Japan.

>>39577569
Correct

>>39575263
I'm just waiting for a full collection of these just like Nine did. Too lazy to torrent individual entries.

Please someone recommend me an unpopular VN with dark atmosphere

>>39574864
>Do I just scour auctions
Basically, yes.

>>39577908
How unpopular are we talking about? How many votes on vndb?

>>39577958
If it has 100 or more votes it's too mainstream for me

>>39577958
VN that don't get mentionned when you seach for recommendations online

+1 FMJ vinnie (this is right after she barges in on her brother and his gf fucking)

>>39577908
>>39577964
I don't read too many games like this, but I liked Rasen Kairou 2 quite a bit. The only problem is that I don't think the first Rasen Kairou game is very good.

How important was the Himawari extra stuff of the newest version again? You know, the light(?) novel extras they added.
I felt like Asuka's route was already more of an extra that wasn't needed, though the Cosmos stuff at the end was cute, but as an ending ultimately irrelevant. When I started that novel part it seems like it even has different characters.

If it's nothing that is particularly important for, say, Island, I think I'm done with the game. Probably won't be playing Aqua After either, as I have no issues with the Aqua route's ending. By which I mean, I'm happy that she isn't fucking suffering for once. Which I honestly didn't expect, and don't need/want more of.

>>39578180
Ok thanks for the recommendation, is it like anonymous (this one was a bit too much for my taste)

>>39578494
They don't really matter. Himawari has very little connection to Island.

>>39578504
>is it like anonymous
Yes pretty much Anonymous might as well been Rasen Kairou 3. Ranking them, I'd go Rasen Kairou 2 > power gap > Rasen Kairou > Anonymous

Do you guys have some experience with trying to run win 8.1/10 games like Amayui Labyrinth Meister on Virtualbox? I can't make it run cause it wants me to install directX 9.0C so I wonder if it just not possible or I'm fucking something up

>>39578563
I don't know about that specific game, but 8.1/10 games usually work on 7 because it's not common for games to require anything beyond directx 9. If you don't have directx 9 for some reason (enable 3D acceleration in the VM), then yeah you'll be shit out of luck. Now if the game actually requires directx 10 or up, it gets trickier. vmware does work with directx 10, so you could switch to that. Another possibility is to use wine and/or proton. Wine is more "basic" which is generally all you need for VNs, but proton is pretty fancy nowadays and will work with all kinds of shit. If whatever you're playing uses newer APIs (not common but it could happen), proton is probably a better bet.

>>39578552
Ok thanks I'll try it out

>>39578531
Thanks. Might read them whenever then.

>>39578563
Tick Enable 3D Accelelation under VM display settings and set enough RAM. Or just use VMware player and edit the vmx file.

>>39577540
Those tweets are so cringe.

>>39579849
I want a kouhai to suki me...

>Tenmei no Conquista getting another expac
Either
A) This game did way better than I thought based on reviews at the time to merit two expansions
or
B) They had all this shit planned for 1 game but fuckery made them release it episodically
or
C) Rance Quest situation where the initial feedback to the base game was so bad they had no choice but to fix it with expansions

>>39578494
I remember that one woman rapemind two man and triggered all of the tragedy

>>39578102

>>39578102
>vinnie
What does this mean any why do you keep saying it?

>>39583185
I can always count on eroge when it comes to keeping outdated meme phrases alive.

honestly can't tell if this is good yet but this made me laugh

>>39565386
I remember reading one of his (I think it was his) posts somewhere saying how he tried copying train groping games irl and hoped for similar results. he said that the woman started screaming and crying when he touched her unlike in hentai media which made him feel bad and that he'd never do it again. It was the genuineness and earnestness how he'd say this wild shit that got me. Wonder If he's still around

>>39584024
>Wonder If he's still around
If he really was Brazilian, then I doubt it.

>>39584024
>he tried copying train groping games irl
what the fuck

>>39584024
>crying because someone touched you
do women really

>>39584193
if you like being fondled by old smelly skinbags, you do you.

>>39584586
it's one thing to dislike something, but screaming any crying because someone touched you over your clothes is pathetic

scream because someone's trying to jam it in your ass raw? ok

>>39584664
you must really enjoy those shoulder massages and dandruff chins nuzzled in your collarbone

>>39584803
ywnbaw

In Natsuiro Kokorolog, Yoshito is the model for an AI in a virtual reality his little sister plays, except that's a lie, the professor who's developing the game tells the girls that so they'll be willing to play while using Yoshito in the game itself so that she can develop the game around it. Yoshito's sister Rin falls in love with her brother by accident, not realizing the avatar she loves is actually her brother. Not wanting to break her heart he agrees to become her lover both in the game and in real life.

In Zutto Sukishite Takusan Sukishite, Tokito falls in love with a girl named Kokona in an online game. They decide to meetup in real life before discovering that the girl he's in love with is actually his little sister Towa.

In Imouto no Okage de Motesugite Yabai, Tokiya falls in love with a girl named Kanae who rejects him. Desperate to get the girl he likes to fall in love with him he turns to his sister Meguri who uses the secret magic technique in their family to get Kanae to fall in love with her brother. It works on herself by mistake and she becomes desperately in love with her brother. She begs and pleads with him not to undo the spell because it will break her heart to no longer be in love with him and finally, not wanting to hurt his sister he agrees to become her lover. All is happy in the end and it's okay because Meguri is goddamn perfect.

In Clover Point, Yaya was born after her parents were divorced. Not wanting to complicate the divorce or give up her daughter for custody her mother kept her birth a secret. Growing up she was told about her older brother Yuuma when, with her mother's help, she finally gets to attend the high school where her brother is a student. Scared that her brother won't accept her she's too afraid to tell him the truth, and when he falls in love with her she can't bring herself to admit what she's done and the two become lovers with only her knowing the truth. Even after they both know the truth (after some drama) it's too late for both of them, they're too much in love to ever go back again.

In Kazoku Koukan, Kazuya grows up with his cousin Hikari without being told that they're actually the offspring of Kazuya's father Akira who raped his sister Chigusa. Not making them cousins who can get married but already inbred twins. Unable to tell her children the truth because she feels ashamed of what was done their true mother never tells them that they're siblings nor will their father admit to the crime he committed. Thus, only after they've become lovers and are planning their wedding together do they discover, from their mother's journal that they're inbred twins. It's too late and they refuse to ever go back again, ending up married in the end instead despite knowing the truth.

In Shinkon Seikatsu brother and sister Toshihiko and Mika Shiina are mistaken for their parents for a family planning apartment. Afraid of losing their home they try and trick the robot who's job it is to make sure new couples are having sex and getting pregnant. It doesn't work and slowly over the course of several weeks Toshihiko is forced to get his sister pregnant before they both admit to each other that they're okay with the situation they found themselves in and will work hard to raise their new family together.

Also in Shinkon Seikatsu, Tadao Arimura lies about his marital status to get a free apartment. Not wanting to be kicked out his daughter Mayu pretends to be his new wife. As above Tadao is forced to get his daughter Mayu pregnant over the next few weeks before admitting that he's okay with it and both Tadao and his daughter vow to work hard to raise their new family together.

In Lovely Quest, the staff at a high school have decided that it's important to teach proper relationships and romance in their school by having 5 girls volunteer for the "Lovely Smile" where they will go on dates, hold hands at school, kiss, and engage in generally romantic behavior in order to both explore romance for themselves but also to be an example of proper behavior to the student body. Seemingly by accident they choose Zenichi to date the girls when his own sister Minaho is one of the volunteers. Not wanting to ruin the "Lovely Smile" they encourage the pair to proceed anyway. Over several months, after doing such romantic things with each other it seems only natural that they'll fall in love and become lovers, not because they intended to but purely by the circumstances of their situation.

>>39585184

In Tsun na Kanojo Dere na Kanojo, Hiroki can date and marry the half alien Akane before, at the end after they've already gotten married they discover far too late that he's the brother who was left behind on Earth when she became sick and was taken to a hospital for treatment on another planet. Their father was unable to return to Earth for his son due to the law concerning contact with primitive civilizations and never realized his daughter would one day return to Earth and accidentally marry her own brother.

In Gakushoku no Oba-san, always having a thing for older women, Daisuke falls in love with the lunch lady at his college Ryouko. They go on dates, have sex together and are planning their future when Ryouko discovers the awful truth that Daisuke is the son she gave up for adoption twenty years earlier. After months of trying to avoid each other they both break down, give up and become lovers again because it's too late and they long ago fell in love.

Next, for the more silly ones you have:

Zettai Ryouiki Sex Royale, half-brother and sister Airi and Yuma are put into a sex royale game together by chance. A silly premise where points are earned either by the girls when they can successfully "rape" Yuma or when Yuma can successfully "rape" one of the girls (it's all in fun). Nobody on the staff seems to care too much that incest is being committed whenever the siblings end up in the same room together. After all, points are at stake.

In Momoiro Seiheki Kaihou Sengen a certain private school in Japan is set up in order to train girls to enter the lucrative Japanese sex industry. One classroom is made up of problem girls who refuse to have any sex at all so Kousuke is brought in to have sex with all the girls in class in order to get them ready to become sex workers after the graduate. Nobody seemed to realize however, that his own sister Mao is one of the problem girls. The pair fall in love after all the sex work they get into.

Finally in Love Pote Gakuen Shuu's mother Kaede agreed to have 3 children in order to combat low birthrates in Japan. But, since her husband died she has only had 2 children. Now that she's getting older the government has "come to collect" and ordered her to have the 3rd child she promised to have or go to jail. Desperate and scared of having sex with a stranger she begs her own son Shuu to please be the father. They fall in love as a consequence of all the attempted baby making they have.

That's the stories I know where incest is committed either by accident or because a couple fell in love without meaning to and can't go back again. Anything I should play next?

>>39583185
Was FMJ a huge hit in Japan or something? The number of VNs that reference it is surprisingly high.

>>39585196
https://vndb.org/v8520
Okay what the fuck

>>39585251
I expect FMJ references more often than Blues Brothers references.

>>39585263
That's a single throwaway gag.

>>39585324
I know, I'm just laughing at the concept and everything on that page, posted that one because it was funny

>>39585329
It's a silly game, but worth the current price of 500 yen
dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/detail/high_0072/

Is emulating Z3 possible

>>39585251
Anything Kubrick seems to have a following. I think I even saw a couple of Shining spoofs. You know the one.

Anons, name me your vn tablets.

>>39586569
I’m looking for some buy recommendations. Pls don’t ignore me, give me some (You)s

>>39586569
Do 2-in-1 laptops count?

>>39586762
As long as it’s comfy. I’ve set up RDP to my smartphone once. Despite the occasional stutter and terrible screen resolution, it was very comfy and distraction free. Looking to an improvement to that experience.

>>39586569
I remember one anon in here saying how they enjoyed their surface go for comfy vinnie reading

>Girl needlessly asks protagonist's name while he's napping in public.
>I think to myself "why do you want to know the name of a stranger so much?"
>He thinks this in the next line.
Is there anything as comfy as being in sync with a protagonist's frame of mind, anons? Even for the little things, it's kind of cozy. Back to reading.

>>39586906
Stop reading in windowed mode.

>>39586831
If you want distraction-free, just pull out the ethernet cable.

>>39587031
but where will I get the audio for my mined anki cards then?

>>39586845
The specs are pretty mediocre compared to other tablets in the same price bracket, imo. I mean, sure I can just RDP, but if I’m buying a Surface I’d want to run it directly. If the specs too weak it might not be able to run magpie or newer titles. Talking about Surface Go 3.

>>39587031
Kek, recently have been trying to make a script to disable internet whenever I open a vinnie.

>>39587046
You must be trolling. You definitely don't want audio because then you will recognize the word only thanks to the sound instead of being able to read it.

>>39587118
put audio at the back of your card.

>>39584050
He really was, and he is around still.
https://vndb.org/u131

>>39585196
>That's the stories I know where incest is committed either by accident or because a couple fell in love without meaning to and can't go back again.
Kenja no Okuri Imouto protag has 4 sisters, one of which is not blood-related. They don't know who exactly however, and at least one of them thinks it's okay to have sex with him because she's the NBR one, but is wrong (don't read the characters tab on VNDB which blatantly spoils that). They do find out late in the story, but the couple just doesn't care anymore and proceeds making their own happy family.

For me, it's NBR ane though (preferably brocon). Sufficiently big tittied NBR imouto is okay too, although these aren't as good as anes.

>>39587125
Pointless. Use furigana and go back to /djt/, this thread is for people who can read Japanese.

>>39587147
>this thread is for people who can read Japanese.
What? Since when?

How do I get a VN mining deck (with pictures) btw?

>>39587018
For what reason? I'm using a texthooker and grammar reference when necessary, so I have it windowed for that reason. I haven't shitposted or dawdled once since I opened my VN hours ago. I'm having fun reading, and the game isn't depressing as fuck so far like past VNs I've given a go.

>>39586569
Heard someone recommend Android tab, but did not specify which brand.

>>39587147
I do use furigana, but I only check for like one in ten cards, and it's faster to not move my eyes and just listen to the audio

>>39587311
>and the game isn't depressing as fuck
Anon...

>>39585184
>>39585196
Nice incest moege recommendations.
I haven't played any lighthearted incest games like those other than onikiss and onigyu and lovely quest which you already played.
Not lighthearted but Astraythem is one of my favorite incest games. You go back in time multiple times to save your sisterwife oneechan.

Also I'm glad I can filter vndb list like
Tag:Incest, On my list, label:Finished https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=038ENB2Ng01cEYgHk2

>>39587553
Pretty good.

>>39587505
Is there something I missed besides the obvious nakige tag, or are you just disappointed in me?

How many years do I have to wait until Kiritani Hana stops getting major title roles and caves back in to eroge?

>>39588169
>main character in that spy x family show this season
>everyone loves her
Not happening.

https://twitter.com/waffle1999/status/1518805037413470208

>>39587101
I've made python version of pomodoro timer, which turns internet off during 25 minutes of activity time, then turns it back on when it's rest time.
If you want to just keep your internet off while vn is running, this bat should work
Put your internet adapter name instead of "Ethernet" and put your exe name instead of clover days. Also run script after your vn.

@echo off


TIMEOUT /T 10 /NOBREAK
netsh interface set interface "Ethernet" DISABLED



:LOOP
TASKLIST | FIND /I "cloverdays.exe" >nul 2>&1
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 (
GOTO CONTINUE
) ELSE (
ECHO vinnie is running, internet disabled
TIMEOUT /T 5
GOTO LOOP
)

:CONTINUE

netsh interface set interface "Ethernet" ENABLED
EXIT

>>39585196
Oh, I forgot Angel Game, which is a swapping party game several friends and acquaintances engage in. The game works like this, 4 couples share a house together for one night. Each of the girls chooses a room, then the men draw playing cards associated with each room and fuck the girl there then swap and choose new cards. Rules are that they all have raw sex and cum inside because the risk of pregnancy is more exciting. They do this until they're tired, no two couples are guaranteed but there should be plenty of swapping. Although he has no girlfriend Shou Fujimori joins the game on the suggestion of his friend. Meanwhile his sister Kotomi Fujumori is there despite recently breaking up with her boyfriend because she has a crush on her teacher Yasushi Ebina and she really wants to have the opportunity to have sex with him. There are two occasions where Shou could up drawing the card for his sister Kotomi. At first Shou refuses but his sister gets angry and asks if there's anything wrong with her so he reluctantly fucks her brains out. She then leglocks him to prevent him from pulling out because 'it's the rules of the game' and tells him she'll have him take responsibility if he knocks her up. Unfortunately this is a one night stand although both leave thinking they wouldn't mind a more permanent relationship. Since both are single this is at least a possibility.

The image for leglock during sex is actually a picture of Shou and his sister Kotomi from Angel Game
https://vndb.org/i3234

Anyone else find that h-scenes lack intimacy? It's always the same formulaic penetrative sex/nakadashi, blowjob scenes, and maybe 69 if the writer is feeling particularly spicy. It's weird because JAV has really long drawn out foreplay, and it's sometimes even the purpose of the entire video. Where is that in eroge? Why don't both MC and heroine explore each other's bodies in a more intimate way? Speaking of which, I remember Walkure Romanze had some of the best kissing scenes I've seen in eroge, lots of voice lines + CGs/cut-ins, and that shit was fucking hot, better than any penetration h-scene I've read.

>>39590559
try koinaku

>>39590570
Are you pulling my dick? I always thought that was a nakige, are you telling me it actually has good h-scenes?

>>39590559
I don't like H-scenes. The vanilla ones put me to sleep and I can't fap to them. If they get too non-vanilla it makes me dislike the heroine and lose interest. I just click through them and fap to other kinds of porn.

>>39590648
I wouldn't say "good", but they're very unique. I don't think they're very usable.

>>39590559
The appeal of eroge H scenes is primarily the voice acting imo. It's hard to pull off the right balance of dirty talk, moans, etc.

>>39590559
>>39590679
Why are you even in this medium? Just read LN's/manga and play JRPG's.

>>39590777
>Why are you even in this medium?
I will never understand this type of comment. Basically you are saying that the medium reduces down to just being porn and that if the porn is removed (or not enjoyed) then there is no remaining value at all. If I felt that way, I would indeed stop reading them, but I don't.
>Just read LN's/manga
These don't scratch the same itch for me.
>and play JRPG's.
I hate RPGs.

>>39590777
I mean, have you never read an all-ages game that you enjoyed? Do you think there is something intrinsic to the medium that means it can only be utilized for porn?

>>39590777
Because eroge lends itself to some interesting character interactions, from the nature of it being written for an adult audience as well as being able to have both narration and voice acting. Besides, I like the fact that there is an actual romantic/sexual build-up, even if I don't find the h-scenes to be well-written. Sure beats any media that ends at the first kiss or the confession.

>>39590822
If you really are just for the narrative, then there's plenty of other alternatives. Yes, eroge excels in adult themes. It's on the tin. Everything else is dressing which other mediums do just as well if not better. You want compelling narratives and characters, you go to books for that. Cute and funny? Anime or Manga. Gameplay? Literal vidya. Why settle for powerpoint porn?

>>39590848
Danganronpa, but given how it was laden with innuendo it may as well have gone full XXX and it wouldn't be any less of it. Quite the opposite.

>>39590872
Yes, eroge stands out because they go explicit while nobody else dips their toes that deep in erotica.

>>39589851
Help, this downloaded dolphin porn.

>>39590911
>help
Do you want more or what?

>>39590911
Use both hands.

>>39590888
>Yes, eroge excels in adult themes. It's on the tin. Everything else is dressing which other mediums do just as well if not better.
In most games I am not impressed by this content. Also some of the VNs I have enjoyed the most were all-ages. Again I simply do not understand your viewpoint at all. It is alien to my experience.
>You want compelling narratives and characters, you go to books for that. Cute and funny? Anime or Manga. Gameplay? Literal vidya.
And what medium will give me both of things? What medium will give me an enjoyable story, cute girls, humor, art that I can look at, a soundtrack that I can listen to, a vicarious experience in which I can inhabit the protagonist (particularly in romantic matters), different routes for the story to unfold, etc.? I want all of those things in one product. And I generally do not want gameplay. I haven't played a proper video game in years.
>Why settle for powerpoint porn?
Because I enjoy them more than the other mediums you mentioned and it provides all the things that I just specified.

>>39590888
What's the point in having this kind of attitude? Eroge have narratives that you don't really find in other medium. That's more than enough to "justify" (as if someone needs to do this anyway) enjoying one.

There are only so many times you can listen to a VA make blowjob noises while you look at a static image that has all the sexual details covered by mosaics before it starts to get old.

>>39590822
>that the medium reduces down to just being porn and that if the porn is removed (or not enjoyed) then there is no remaining value at all
sounds like some dumb coomer moefaggot, better ignore subhumans like him
>>39590888
Lol, just look at this coomer attempting to gatekeep non-coomers. Sorre buddy, but you aren't on r eddit, fuck off

>>39591000
Your first statement clashes with your last.
>In most games I am not impressed by this content.
>it provides all the things that I just specified.
Which is it? You're more indecisive than the average hetare.

>>39591022
Eroge is at its best when expressing the taboo which is, surprise surprise, often sexual.

>>39591096
I can articulate better than the soft brain coomers you're stuck dealing with. Ad hominem is not an argument by the way so fuck off yourself.

>>39591297
>Which is it? You're more indecisive than the average hetare.
I said I'm not impressed by the H content. In a lot of games it's pretty mediocre. If that was all the games had going for them they would be failures.

>>39590888
>You want compelling narratives and characters, you go to books for that.
Tell me which book to read to replace Muramasa.

>>39591315
If what you're looking for in an eroge is a bunch of Fata Morganas, then you're walking on spikes throughout your whole journey in the hobby.

>>39591347
Probably something by Yukio Mishima. Same energy.

>>39591297
>Eroge is at its best when expressing the taboo which is, surprise surprise, often sexual.

Ah yes anon, taboo of vanilla sex with mosaics covering benis in da bagina. Taboo of fucking your non-blood related imouto (lol). Taboo of fucking and cumming inside of 18 years old schoolgirl. Taboo of fucking 30 years old virgin milf. Very taboo, anon. Reading moege is the best taboo breaking liberating experience, anon. I feel so free now!

>>39591297
>Eroge is at its best when expressing the taboo which is, surprise surprise, often sexual.
I don't agree.

>>39591354
>If what you're looking for in an eroge is a bunch of Fata Morganas, then you're walking on spikes throughout your whole journey in the hobby.
I have never read Fata Morgana and don't really care to.
>Probably something by Yukio Mishima. Same energy.
No I want something with the same sort of action, humor, world-building, etc. Give me a book.

>>39590888
>You want compelling narratives and characters, you go to books for that
Can I get books similar to Sakura, Moyu please

>>39590777
>>39590888
>>39591297
This is how the EOP moebutas on /vn/ post.

>>39591405
Must be some faggot buying every NekoNyan title.

Just read something by your favorite kami writer (whoever that would be), imagine it being a book instead and then realize that it would be far inferior. We all have dumb monkey brains here. Sounds and visuals being in the medium makes a big inherent difference.

>>39591361
I know your eroge addled mind has gotten desensitized by the amount of eroge you've read, but a lot of these examples are socially deviant to most.

>>39591364
Okay, why?

>>39591374
>I have never read Fata Morgana and don't really care to.
It's the one that should fit what you're seeking. You can't be too picky.
>No I want something with the same sort of action, humor, world-building, etc. Give me a book.
Dostoyevsky, Nabokov and other Russian authors got you on that.

>>39591377
Haven't read that yet.

>>39591405
Another lame ad hominem. Sorry I'm actually setting a discussion and not just shitposting.

>>39591430
Wrong.

>>39591438
There are a lot of stories that I would never read as books but if they were VNs I would read them.

>>39591476
Would you read a Lolita VN?

>>39591483

>>39591490
>>>/leddit/ is thataway

>>39591439
I think you just have issues. There are actual, good writers in eroge (inb4 every single one is bad). They know how to use the medium and create narratives that don't exist anywhere else. Something simple like a fucking "multi-route mystery" can't be accomplished outside of a VN. Nevermind that there is also voice acting, music, and visuals to go along with everything. Yes 18+ stuff is obviously where the genre got its stuff, but you're crazy if you think that's the only kind of special value eroge has.

>>39591498
Are the EOP moebuta from earlier? Is that why you aren't familiar with Cross Channel?

>>39591512
>its stuff
start*

>>39591490
It must be a relief that your present state of being homosexual is at this particularly lenient and open-minded period in the existence of our world.

>>39591522
why would i be in the jop general if i was an eop?

I prefer a route to have a small number of shorter H-scenes. I can enjoy them that way. What fucks with me are games that have a lot of H-scenes or the H-scenes are really long.

>>39591546
To post things like this >>39590777 >>39590888

>>39591551
in that case, i have just the button for you

>>39591560
I have the autism and can't skip anything in a game.

>>39591557
i wish, i can't remember the last time i got trips, much less 2 of them in one thread

>>39591512
>Something simple like a fucking "multi-route mystery" can't be accomplished outside of a VN.
Yes it does. You're overinflating the medium's value. A fucking gacha can do the same thing if it tries.

>>39591483
Totally would, if they made her look and sound like this. Hell, I'd read War and Peace if half the cast looked like this and was voiced by professional japanese females.

t.different moebro

>>39591483
I was mainly thinking of stuff like fantasy or sci-novels.

>>39591439
>I know your eroge addled mind has gotten desensitized by the amount of eroge you've read, but a lot of these examples are socially deviant to most.

Yes anon, everything i listed is very deviant i get it, vanillafags are the most deviant sick bastards ever, i know that much. Doing seggs (benis in bagina) is a deviant and evil act, after all.
Now get back to r eddit.
> Dostoyevsky, Nabokov and other Russian authors got you on that.
Bet you didn't even read their bullshit.

>>39591589
An Eragon eroge would probably make it tolerable.

>>39591571
No. Dies Irae wouldn't work if it wasn't a VN.

>>39591593
Like how you ignored actual creepy shit like imouto fucking. Just goes to show you're arguing in bad faith.

>>39591608
If Blazblue can work as a video game, then DI can too.

Are most obscure VNs bad or just suffer from inaccessibility?

Lolita , light of my life, fire of my loins. My 罪, my 精神. ローリーター: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. ロ. リ. タ.

>>39591580
But this is not a loli.

>>39591624
>If Blazblue can work as a video game, then DI can too.
What? I know pretty much nothing about Blazblue so whatever, but the whole appeal of DI is the writing. I guess having a shinza game like what was Senshinkan as a joke might be cool though.

>>39591636
Of course. Why would I settle for anything less than perfect?

>>39591703
NTA, but a DI fighting game would be pretty sweet. Most chuunige would fit actually.

>>39591754
Sorry but I do not share your love for balloon boobs.

>>39591624
>Like how you ignored actual creepy shit like imouto fucking. Just goes to show you're arguing in bad faith.

Eroge still playing it as safe as possible by pulling non-blood related bullshit instead of actual blood related sex. Which goes against your argument, which is actual taboo. Same thing with the lack of proper teacher routes in normal moege. Not gonna fuel your eop attentionwhoring anymore, kill yourself and die from brain cancer, faggot.

>>39588584
>Imouto with a body double
Could be interesting.

>>39591770
You're still a retard for thinking all those are normative. This is what happens when you've shut everything else down and let eroge rot your mind. Don't care if you don't reply. You can pretend that everyone else is as degenerate as you.

>>39591817
Not that anon but stepsister/brother sex is a popular section on normalfag porn sites. There's nothing extreme here.

>>39591817
Even anime depicts much more taboo while having no h content in it, you fucking tranny sperg coomer piece of shit. I'm gonna ctrl every single H scene and you have no way to stop me or my hand pressing CTRL.

>>39591847
Yeah, try talking about wanting to fuck your sister with your family and see how long it takes for you to get disowned and/or get your ass beat.

>>39591856
>Let me disprove how degenerate it is by using a medium known for degeneracy
Wow, you sure showed me with that retard take of yours.

>>39592057
> and see how long it takes for you to get disowned and/or get your ass beat.
Yeah because they want first dips.

>>39591483
Is there even a VN that uses the same structure as Lolita? "meta" stories written by the main character of the piece of fiction are a semi-common trope, but i can't think of a good VN example that uses it, let alone pulls it off as well as Lolita.
Even as a joke i don't really see Lolita working well as a VN, and if somebody turned it into one it would just result in people complaining about the lack of H-scenes.

what's up with the autism in this sure?

>>39593173
autism is a prerequisite to becoming a JSL

>>39593195
>repetitively looking at squiggles for hours until they make sense
checks out

そこかよ

>>39593463
Best part is the bitch really is insane.

>>39593488
Now you're talking, I love games with crazy bitches.

>>39587311
based

>>39587311
>making VN reading an enjoyable experience

>>39593863
Real question tho, at what point did reading in jp start being "enjoyable" to you (not using dictionary every 2 lines) ?

>>39594103
In the middle of my first VN because thankfully I'm not a brainlet.

>>39594110
How long did it take to become not a brainlet

>>39588584
This game got delayed for two years. But from the way the writer is talking about it it looks like it's going to be massive.

>>39538297
I know this is 5 days old but whatever. Seething Snoy, the Switch is perfect for portable VNs. Keep seething that the Vita doesn't get anymore VNs (or any games, for that matter).

>>39587147
>what is 高低アクセント

>>39595038
Oh come on, literally no one cares about that shit. A guy I knew told a story of how he explained it to a native when he was working in japan. Stop them on the street and test them, they won't know the correct one most of the time.

>>39595063
It's an unconscious thing that helps eliminate ambiguities in the context of sentences, not something speakers actually think about. Most English speakers don't think about stressed syllables, but if a non-native speaker messes up all the time you would notice something is off

>>39595038
>>39595132
What do you read outloud to yourself or something? Who cares?

>>39594987
It's nothing to do with Sonyshit. I don't even own a PSwhatever while I do own a Switch. I just prefer VNs on PC, it's easier to boot up on PC as opposed to going out of my way to switch the input source in one of my monitors to play in Switch docked mode, it's easier to take and share screenshots, and I can use better upscaling.

How do I start reading chuuni shit? Can’t read any word with more than 3 kanji.

>>39595493
Most words aren't actually longer than 3 kanji, they're just compounds

>>39595493

>>39595493
https://forums.fuwanovel.net/blogs/entry/2164-clephas-guide-to-a-fun-untranslated-chuunige-life/

>>39595510
So this is the power of a guy who can read a 50 hour game in 10 hours.

>>39595493
I'm glad I have the 'tism and started with chuuni shit so now everything is easy.

>>39595509
It bothers me that they didn't place the furigana over the right kanji

>>39595589
They'd have to space the kanji way more and it'd look weirder.

>>39595592
There are other ways, for example starting the furigana more to the left of the 響 and decreasing the spacing and font size of the ruby text itself.
Of course the engine probably doesn't support any fancy typesetting techniques.

>>39595589
Prepare your anus.

>>39595616
>>39595619
Alright now I'm just mad.

>>39595616
>>39595619
God damn it, that hurts. Delet this

>>39595616
>>39595619
that's just a typesetting/font/kerning error

>>39595633
How fucking shit is this engine? I'm pretty sure Type-Moon and light get their autistic furigana to render correctly. It can't be that hard.

>>39595509

She's such a good girl.

https://vndb.org/c46201

>>39595985
i had a feeling this would have group sex with several males/and or ntr before i clicked it

>>39596061
fwiw, she starts out fairly pure and innocent.
But it's that sort of corrupting girls VN.