/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Oldest C videos on NND that I have seen are from around 2011, I wonder if she has managed to dig up older stuff

>>39267033
She said someone sent her stuff from 2010.

Reminder to do a reservation on the anniversary stream to watch the archive, even though it'll only last a week so hopefully someone records it.

>>39267203
Thanks, I did that. I always miss these because I'm PST and she doesn't seem to archive the latest ones.

>>39267257
Actually it's special that's she's letting people do it this time, all the other community streams are sudden with no time to reserve so the only way to watch the archive is with NND premium, if she even leaves any.

>>39267278
>NND premium
Yeah, fuck that. I want to see them but not enough to give NND money to not use to improve their website. I'll just keep supporting her on the other platforms and catch what I can.

>>39267485
And she doesn't recommend getting it either, those streams are just small things she doesn't really care about leaving an archive anyway.

This is pretty embarrassing.

sex

>>39267033
smelly pits

When and said sniffed them I expected a little smell not this https://files.catbox.moe/63oz9g.mp4

>>39306438
She goes in for really good sniff... She's weird

She's live in a bath.

Are there oppai mousepads with real life pictures? Would you buy one of Canan?

>>39310121
There must be, but I'd prefer one with the drawing version of her it's less weird

>Gambare niki copycats
Must be someone from here

>>39310145
Also, adding to this how would it even work since like 50% of an oppai mousepad is the face... would she be wearing the anpanman mask

>>39310162
Yeah she also talked about a butt one, well she wouldn't do either cause she doesn't want to hire a cameraman.

It's such a difference hearing her talks as Noel and C, Noel is always happy and about all the fun she has with holos and C is always just complaining about antis and her streams.
Kinda like those Azki tweets I guess, holo gets only their happy parts.

>>39310349
I think she has talked about it before as Noel, she doesn't want her streams there to drag down the mood ,she knows people often use them to cheer themselves up after a long day at work or school so she tries her best to deliver.
C is obviously more personal and has a long history of addressing the more shitty parts of her life so it's not like she can't pretend there's no bad days

>>39310121
I don't think there's any C Merch which is surprising for how long she's been around but I don't think she's sought it out. I'd buy it to support her though.

>>39310210
>she doesn't want to hire a cameraman.
She could hire a woman to make it less weird but she's pretty independent so I understand.


Is she still having platform and plan woes? I was thinking would she be better off on Patreon or would the language barrier block her from doing it? She might get a larger audience and thus more money but she might lose the fan connection. I guess Fantia is kidn of a Japanese patreon.

>>39310488

>>39310488
She did have birthday goods last year, pretty good alternative if you couldn't buy the limited edition of her Noel merch since they also came with an autographed postcard.

>>39310488
She doesn't really have platform issues, she's 100% sure of what site she'll use and is already working towards it, but for some reason won't reveal it and says it'll take until summer for the new plan.
Also talked a bit about doing earlick streams without camera in the future, I guess it would come with trying to tone down the lewdness on NND to turn it up on the new plan.

>>39310526
But isn't her lewdness one of the reasons she's so popular? I follow her for other reasons but knowing the internet....

>>39310526
I may be wrong since my jp is kinda shit, but to me sounded like she was answering someone in chat that said he would like an earlicking stream without camera, she then said she thought about it but never intended to actually do it, because she fears how ppl would react.

>>39310936
>because she fears how ppl would react.
She needs to stop worrying about the viewers and do what's best for her and what she wants. She's trying to make everyone happy and it's wrecking her because she dwells on the smallest minority that get upset like that guy because she moved her stream. I can't speak for everyone but I'm sure we'd all still support her whatever she does.

I wonder how many dicks she's seen, the way she talks about it a lot of people have sent videos.

This discussion she's having about "Canan "not really existing and disappearing when the stream is over, I guess if she sees both accounts as just different characters she's playing it helps to separate them.
Hard to believe Canan isn't really her when she's been "playing" her for so long, I can't image she's much different in "real life".

>>39321953
It probably helps her to keep them separate when she thinks of them as roles to play. Like that time she accidentally called herself danchou and broke her keyboard. We don't know the lengths of Cover's contract but she might get in trouble if too much gets out. No one really talks about Hololive outright on their roommate's twitter or posting, everyone kind of keeps it separate for whatever reason, probably to keep up the immersion.

Streaming addict started another one...

>>39323262
She does this when she's bored.

>>39323274
I mean, she called herself an addict before.
And to me it feels more like she doesn't want to be alone, at this point she's always either streaming, working, or hanging out with holos.

>>39323391
I'm going to play armchair psychologist but base it on my own experiences.
She grew up unpopular and without a lot of friends and now she finds herself with a lot of friends and a large online following she wants to please. So naturally if she can she'll stream. It's only audio while she does other work and if we can keep her company until she goes does other stuff then that's great, better than browsing 5ch or something and upsetting herself. I just love hearing her voice and listening to her talk, she could read a phone book and I'd listen.

Anyone have an image of her autograph?

Wait I'm confused, the goods she's working on right now are for Canan but she said it depends on he "job" to sell them internationally? Did I miss something or is the job she's talking about not Holo?

She talk about anything worth noting or just hung out?

>>39323493
It's on the postcard. She sometimes uses it as a watermark (?) on her photos

Gay ass thread back to your tranny board holoponi
check this 5

Can you guys explain what happened yesterday with this?
>ニコニコのプレ垢のやつ、巻き戻しで1:51:45くらいから見てみろ
>「情報漏洩する奴はやべー、関わりたくない」って急に言い出したｗ
https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv336431951
Someone claimed this is actually about pirated content

>>39331102
That wasn't yesterday but some weeks ago, she was talking about people like korekore making living out leaking stuff.

>>39331102
Not even the community streams are free of dramafags now, so tiresome

>>39331125
But the link there is a stream from yesterday

>>39331136
Oh well maybe she mentioned it again, but last time it was that, korekore and scum like them.
>>39331133
Well there's always been people on 5ch that overanalyze everything she says on community streams, now she's doing them more often so it arrives here too.

So I take it she's still good friends with Mikeneko
I hope she would take Cover management down a few pegs because she can afford to do that

>>39331219
Fuck off to your thread, fag

>>39331219
No.
Even if they were still in good terms when she left all the shit talking she has done after doesn't help, Noel still loves hololive and mike is shitting on that.

>>39331291
I don't know, much like Kson, I think C is a bit of a saviorfag and if approached she might help her. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes maybe the whole generation tried to help her but of course she self destructed and so they distance themselves in case something happened legally.
If Mikeneko did anything to hurt Noel like leaking personal info, addresses, logs, any of that, that would be a step too far and completely unforgivable and I assume Cover would drop the legal hammer on her which is the only reason she hasn't done it.

>>39331102
Don't fucking bring your false flagging drama here. Leave

>>39331291
Cover and the management are not hololive though

Maybe I am being naïve but I think her Elden Ring obsession is a good thing for her, it helps take her mind away from drama and other bullshit.

>>39332011
Definitely, seeing her have fun and laugh is probably just as good for her as it is for us.

I thought women couldn't predict their periods?

>>39338603
No? They always happen around the same time every month, it's not like she can predict it down to the day but she can make an educated guest as to when it will happen

>>39338603
Is that what she meant in her tweet?

Damn, so less Elden Ring too.

>>39338646
>今週末は女の子の日なので限定配信は来週にしようと思ってます…！
The way she words it though weirds me out
I know you can predict it around a 28 day cycle but it just sounds weird saying that.
>>39338663
My N1 ass can't see anyway else to read that tweet.
I could be retarded though, I am drunk.

>>39338724
The Elden Ring....

>>39338769
Judging from the comments you're right in your assumption. If it was something like vaccination she would just say that.

She already stream as Noel on her period before, it's just camera streams that she can't do.

There are still 3 more Saturdays in this month after this weekend so its not really a problem if she doesn't stream this weekend.

Might get rough for a bit.

>>39338603
What do you think is the reason for an app like Lunaluna exists, anon?

your oshi is an fat ugly whore

So glad that turned out to be nothing. Not a fun way to wake up hearing Noel was caught up in drama. Just some shit stain trying to make a name for himself spreading lies.

She's live and naked.

>>39347937
Dammit, and I'm not anywhere I can listen. She always goes up randomly.

>>39348148
Well she already finished her shower, and I couldn't hear shit.

>>39348171
Did she mention anything interesting. I know this question is often repeated but I'm always curious since she's usually so open to us. Didn't know if she even knew about the "drama"

>Misses people so much she can't sleep
Why is she so lonely?

>>39310936
Why would people watch earlicking streams without camera?

>>39362451
I think it was a sarcastic comment she responded seriously, like
>Camera-less normal ASMR and celebration streams? What's next, camera-less earlick?

She is live

>Singing
Why

Is she crying?

>baka chinpo
She's too drunk.

>太郎
She's way too drunk.

>>39371911
I kinda wish she had a gobi like Pekora or Luna just to see how much she would slip.

suki suki suki

I always wonder if she'll say something she shouldn't when she's drunk

You know that spinning feeling when you try to sleep while you are drunk?
Is it worse for her with her meniere's?

This woman is ridiculous

>>39371911
Is she talking about her brother?

>>39372114
No anon she said it just like she does as Noel at the end of a sentence.

>>39372114
No, but she only says something-太郎 as Noel.

What even happening?

>>39372148
She's on her period, lonely and drunk?

>>39372173
I can save her!

>>39372173
I forgot she's on her period, that explains it.

I just got back, what is she doing now? Sucking on something?

OH YES

>>39372336
She's horny and wants to do earlick so she started licking the mic.

That was an experience. I'm not sure how I feel about seeing her like that.

>>39372462
she should learn to masturbate like normal people instead of doing this whole unannounced stream routine to get herself off

>>39374495
I thought she owned a dildo.
But I agree, even get a secret boyfriend or something or seek comfort in Flare. She's surrounded by thousands of people a day but sounds like the loneliest woman on earth. That pains me.

>>39374590
It seems like a lot of these vtuber girls have problems with finding people to be intimate with maybe it’s because they share so much of themselves with strangers

>>39374617
>>39374590
cucks

>>39374924
Wanting her to be happy and healthy doesn't make me a cuck because I'll never get to be with her. She's an entertainer and a person, not my personal girlfriend experience.

>>39374946
cuck logic

Omg i missed it, did archive anon record it?

>>39374617
Probably hard to date and not run into a fan. Most of them don't want to date fans.

>>39372462
>>39374495
I had GFs who would not masterbate or have sex if they were on their period because of the mess it'd make.

>>39374962
That's right, I'm canan's secret boyfriend and I love to see her getting fucked by other men. In fact, we're all having a big gangbang right now and you're not invited.

>>39375066
Gross. Makes sense, but gross.

>>39375064
Surely she's not that famous for that to be a problem?

A good vibrator would fix this problem

>>39375023
If you're willing to pay niconico premium she left the archive, will probably be gone by tomorrow.

>>39375140
Did she go on cam? I'll consider if she did

>>39375140
Yeah, she might be embarrassed a bit once she's sober.

>>39375157
Only audio. She doesn't want to be on camera when she's on her period.

>>39375106
Because of hololives growing popularity get voice and tits would be recognized to your average weeb

>>39375175
Easy solution here is to not date weebs then :)

>>39375064
A fan would probably be better in the long any other dude is going to try and put a stop to her work

It goes beyond just the men she's likely to met, it's a self-esteem issue, pretty much every other stream now she calls herself an ugly 喪女 that there's no way anyone would ever like.
And this is just a guess but with all the self-denigrating jokes she makes about being a pervert she also probably feels shame in what she does and underserving of a relationship because of it.

>>39375213
Not unless he's into cuckolding/netorase. And that genre is more prevalent in Japan that most people think.

>>39375320
Wouldn't a lot of that melt away if I guy hit on her? If she really has that low of self esteem like a lot of guys you'd assume she'd go with the first guy to offer.

>>39375194
Most other guys would just want to fuck her the instant he sees her tits. Finding a dude that is not a fan, not a weeb, and is into her as a person instead of a pair of walking sweater puppies is gonna be hard. And if she even does decide to try and look she's gonna have to go through a bunch of the guys listed above. It's not as easy as you think. Plus she's working and streaming on all the time and would need to keep her anonymity intact as much as possible

>>39375348
She would have to put herself out there first and she's not. I find that really relatable, putting yourself out there is the hardest part and can lead to a lot of hurt. Which is why she focuses on work and streaming.

>>39375348
She's probably too smart for those guys because she's probably dealt with those guys since she was 12. And jeezus Christ you think a woman with low self-esteem is just gonna rip off her panties at the first guy to say nice things to her? You need to talk to more people anon. If her self hate is so great she'll just believe it's all lies and they're just tryin to fuck her.

>>39375359
>Plus she's working and streaming on all the time and would need to keep her anonymity intact as much as possible
This, can you imagine being an relationship where your girlfriend disappears and streams for 8 hours a day? You might be ok at first but that stuff takes it's toll when you want to be in a relationship. Not to mention the ASMR stuff. Would that really be a healthy relationship?

>>39375413
>Not to mention the ASMR stuff. Would that really be a healthy relationship?
Agreed. Only way that would be okay is what >>39375324 said. The guy would literally NEED to be into getting cucked him not flipping out over the ASMR stuff continuing. I know it's Japan but I doubt even most Japanese men would be into it if push comes to shove. She's said that she'd stop the lewd ASMR stuff if she was in a serious relationship but it'd be a shock for the guy if he never knew she did this before. Might be a deal breaker for some. Might change the way they treat her for others (demand that she has sex sooner rather than later, etc).

>>39375413
>can you imagine being an relationship where your girlfriend disappears for 8 hours a day
So the same amount as a normal job?

>>39375465
Yeah, and that cuck fetish would bound to escalate to bringing in strangers and she would be very against that.

>>39375465
I like to think I have an open mind and I admit I've fallen for Noel further than I care to admit but the idea of sitting in next room while she's on camera showing off her tits and ass while licking a mic might start to get aggravating after a while. Telling yourself it's what she wants to do and sure it brings in the money to support you but if you got into a fight, who knows what you'd bring up.

>>39375548
A normal job doesn't have you showing off your tits and ass on camera to a bunch of strangers.

>>39375413
>Streams 8 hours a day
It'd also increase the chances of her getting cheated on. Think about it, the guy has tabs on her on his phone. 8 hours is enough time to meet up with a stranger, fuck in a hotel, check out of the hotel, and make it back. Yeah Noel has a great body and personality and she makes bank but good looking chicks get cheated on by less attractive girls all the time. Why? Because the less attractive girl paid more attention to the guy and will always go farther sexually than the attractive girl. Noel will be working (even on weekends) for prolonged periods of time and Noel doesn't come off as a freak

>>39375413
She wouldn’t disappear you would have to because if you so much as cough in the background some lunatic on 5ch will isolate the sound and try to get her cancelled. You basically couldn’t live together.

>>39375874
>Noel is streaming
>You hear a toilet flush in the background
It'd all be over.

>>39375874
>>39375908
Most mics don't pick up that much background noise, especially if she's in a separate room with that foam. But you wouldn't be able to go anywhere near her or contact her at the chance someone would hear it. A phone going off or a notification, look at Rushia.

>Finally become Noel's boyfriend
>Fuck it up by accidentally outing the relationship
>She breaks up with you for ruining her career and life
I'd probably just kill myself.

>Finally become Noel's boyfriend
>Fuck her career up by intentionally outing the relationship and making it look like an accident
>She's now financially dependent on me
Housewife locked in.

She's live again?

>>39377095
She is
>Titled I don't remember yesterday
Oh no...

It was supposed to be her day off...

She's either very fond of the "褒めて伸びる" phrase or that was supposed to be a hint at Noel.
And it seems she's not too ashamed of what she said last night, but the archive is still only for today, so if anyone wants 3 hours of drunk as fuck Canan they'll have to decide if they want to pay niconico premium fast.

>>39377530
Yes it's a hint that she's still friends with Noel.

>>39375320
I've noticed that too. A lot of self deprecating jokes, my type of humor because I use it all the time to hide my insecurities and self esteem issues It always pains me to see her be so hard on herself especially when the chat is filled with thousands of people cheering her on, does she really think they only like her for her tits? I'm sure she's attractive and she seems to take care of herself physically so she can stay on camera, but it sounds like it's never enough because she thinks herself a pervert and probably unlady-like.

God, the white knight in me really wants to save her..

How do I get a Noel / C gf

>>39379957
You don't, Noel is only the way she is because is single.

She is live and singing

She actually sounds decent in parts am I being delusional?

>>39388589
She was doing the do re mi in one of her latest ASMR videos on the C youtube channel and it was kinda hard to listen to, to be honest...

>She's only 150cm
>With that bust
Is that right? She's tiny.

>>39389958
Yes. She stood up in a recent stream and you could see how short she really is.
You can also see it when the camera is behind her.

Cuck thread, it`s disgusting to read.

>>39390911
The don't read it.

>>39390911
Then don't read it faggot

Why is it always doomposting in these threads?

I hope she finds a good loving husband one day.

>>39403116
She will because it's going to be me.

>>39403422
I made this post

>>39375023
Sorry, I have given up in trying to archive these stuff. Even I miss these precious moments too.

Why is she doing singing training?

>I have big boobs btw
>did you know I have big tits?
>y-you didn't forget my breasts are big did you?

She’ll do an aerobike stream soon. No video though.

Sounds like she's going hard into the diet and exercise. I know she wants to stay in shape for the camera but does she really feel like she's putting on a lot of weight? From the recent streams and galleries she looks perfect, don't want her to get a complex where she's never happy with her weight.

>>39410600
Maybe she already does, the other day on a stream that happened I think soon after the karaoke collab she complained about people complimenting her with "you've lost with recently" and not feeling like she looks any different.
Could be that she feels bad when meeting other thin holos.

>>39410600
Its the usual Japanese thing where they want to be petite.
>From the recent streams and galleries she looks perfect
I agree. She looked amazing in the second most recent earlicking stream, but if she feels this way she probably won't show that much skin for a while.

>>39410653
>she complained about people complimenting her with "you've lost with recently" and not feeling like she looks any different.
Thats normal for most people when losing weight though.

>>39410653
>>39410709
Yeah, it's why I worried because I know she has her self esteem issues. But some of the other Holos are twigs while others are slightly larger, I'd still say they're healthier than most people. I do prefer women with a little meat on the bones to stay healthy and Noel has those L Cups and should have a body to support them. I guess it's surprising that body positivity or whatever it's called it outside the west.

I just wish she would keep on doing diet with cardio and more protein consumption rather than using those belly vibrating machine.

>>39410788
>using those belly vibrating machine.
What?

>>39410788
She had that rice porridge phase that just made her feel sick every day and she probably has everyone from chat to her friends telling her what to do. There's so much shit out there that it's hard to find something that works for you. She needs to learn balance, that's what I did, and burning the calories that you take in with exercise.

>>39410798
You know, those vibrating belt that claims to be melting you belly fat. She talks about it on the stream today.

>>39410863
I’d say balance is good once you’re able to handle your hunger. For her, I see that she needs to get used to eat a lot of protein and significantly reduce consumption of carbs and fat. I heard that she tried a protein shake for the first time today and she loves it so that’s a progress.

>>39410923
Yeah more protein and vegetables.

New Fantia post. Pretty clever putting it out between Noel streams.

>Don't sleep on an empty stomach
So much for her taking care of herself.

Does she have any plans for her birthday?

She's with the airbike stream.

>>39429725
Thanks

>>39429725
I should know by now when Noel says "goodnight" it's time for a C stream.

Why did I have to fall in love with her....

I wish she started doing ring fit streams again as Noel instead of just airbike.

>teacher cosplay next stream
Aw what happened to the bunny suit she was talking about last month?

She's having skin irritation?
Probably from stress or her new diet.

>>39443422
Doesn't she say similar stuff everytime it's an episode showing ass? Considering her job is sitting all day it's not too surprising.

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1515300957420388353

any idea what will be the announcement ?

>>39453120
Swimsuit 3D given all the recent talk?

Damn she's going hard today, these two weeks got her pent up.

>>39456396
I never really put two and two together but I she's kind of a Exhibitionist

Anyone else watching the stream? She talked about a tweet that revealed the stuff she's buying on fantia but I couldn't find it.

>>39457348
Yeah can't find it either

>>39457348
I have it on in the background but not really listening.

https://twitter.com/mochipaipai/status/1514408052736229376
Get her stuff to fap to the same stuff as Canan, is that cheating?

Though I do wonder how much of the stuff she buys is for masturbation and how much is for reference in her own work

>>39457691
Interesting taste...

>>39457691
>Is not in an actual relationship with Canan.
>Looks at another girl to fap to her
>Wonders if it's cheating
Jeezus how big of a fag are you? Just live your life man. You wanna fap to a bunch of girls who don't know you just do it.

>>39457778
It's prolly both. It's a win-win. Buy the material, fap to it, then once you are in post-coitus territory, you analyze it for your job

>>39458702
I'm just continuing her joke, she always tells her viewers to not fap to other girls.

>>39403116
so many cucks in this thread

>>39458702
Chill out. It was clearly a joke. Where did this come from?

>>39457691
>Buying fetish boob fondling porn at 6AM
She's just like me... This girl has some good stuff

Do you think she wishes she had someone fondling her tits like that?

>>39460574
Either that or she wants to fondle a good handful

>>39460574
>>39461413
She probably just admires big breasts like hers because she knows the hardship of ownership.

I wish she gave character costumes a try, aside of being worried about copyright I remember her saying that she worries about "wardrobe malfunctions" mentioning how a while ago she bought an Azure Lane costume but it didn't fit around the chest.
She should pick up sewing and give proper cosplay a try, she has a tits most cosplayers don't and could pull off some good costumes with her anime character proportions

>>39480144
I just want to see her cosplay as Noel, as on the nose it may be. I know she can get that outfit from the Expo. But she can't show her face because she wants to protect her identity, that's the only problem. I agree she could make a lot of money cosplaying but she has her reasons.

She's streaming
Apparently brother already married? Doesn't seem like she went to the ceremony.

She's live.

>talking about quzilax out of nowhere
I blame festival for this

>>39489455
Maybe there wasn't one?

>>39489455
I don't think she would miss his wedding. That sounds like rrat shit to further the brocon shit.

>>39489714
>>39490025
It's just kinda weird how casual she talks about it, like she basically went "it truly felt like he got married once I saw he changed his LINE header image"
Sounds like one day he just called her and said hey I'm married now, is that normal in Japan?

>>39490154
It's honestly all speculation at this point unless Noel shares it. Some people don't want to do ceremonies, maybe he didn't have the money, weddings are expensive plus Japan is taking Covid very seriously so no large gatherings. Maybe her brother isn't as close to the family as we were led to believe.
It's probably the Covid one

>>39490154
>>39490492
It's probably the covid thing, maybe they'll do a ceremony at a later date but they probably signed the paperwork and took care of the legality of it.

i literally can't fall asleep anymore without listening to her ASMR, fucking hell this degenerate shit is way too addicting.

>>39490492
Also her brother still lives in Oita so she would have to go there for the ceremony

Why is she like this?

>>39491829
Her ASMR sucks though, she should learn from the likes of Macoto (especially before turning into a kike and lower her perfect ASMR prowess to force people to pay her money for the good ASMR).

>>39499987
Go back to /t/

Does she hide her 方言 as C? Seems to be becoming more prominent as Noel recently but I don't hear it much here.
She's live btw.

She's streaming and talking about the new plan, will be at the lowest 5k and at most 10k, and given her hints it's going to be one of those fanclub sites, run by the same company as the one Macoto opened yesterday, and the Tokino Sora and Hololive official fanclubs.

>>39519643
>7am
>Up all night talking with Shiraken
C your sleeping schedule...

Canan newfag but I'm looking forward to her birthday goods more that the new lewd plan, what has she used before, Booth? How hard is it to get as a foreigner?

>>39519855
She used booth last year, it should be pretty easy just use Tenso or a service like it

She seems so unsure about the whole thing, I don't understand why she's going through with it.

Oh damn those おちんぽs got me, I'd definitely play 5k+ just hear that while she moans and shows her body.

>>39520035
Yeah, I don't know either, maybe she really needs the money. I know she supports her mom and with her brother married he might be focusing on his own family now.
But I rather her not do anything she's not comfortable with and only do it if she's 100% sure.

>>39520224
She's saying that if she was doing it for money, she preferes a cheap option so more ppl can join.

>>39520035
I haven't been able to fully keep up with her sadly, does she still have the dream of openings her own recoding studio? Because that's a really expensive dream

I just wish she would do cooking videos again

>>39519643
I don't get it, will the new plan be lewder, how so? I thought NND and Fantia don't allow that, would she seek a new platform? What would be in the new plan, what would she be doing exactly? She doesn't seem to want to do nudity. Maybe she wants to do things like mochipaipai which is why she became her member?
I'm all for trying new things guess I'm just confused why she's changing this up now. Puts a knot in my stomach thinking she wants to go lewder.

>>39520309
From what i could make out over the streams, what she wants: explicit dirty talk(like being able to say underwear), countdowns, use fake cum.
This stream she said earlier that you should join the new plan if u want to se what things she holds on while she streams on NND, and yes its going to be in another platform.

>>39520341
>like being able to say underwear
Wow, so dirty.

>>39520309
Look at Macoto's plan and it's likely going to be literally that, likely using the same service:
https://rnqq.jp/
Dirty words, pretend blowjobs/paizuri with dildo, countdown, simulated cum, basically as far as she can go without showing pussy/nipples.
They're not allowed to do this on NND but that fanclub service is run by the same parent company as niconico, so what probably happened is that niconico came to them and offered to create one of these fanclub sites if they wanted to be lewder, that would be why they're not using fantia either.
>>39520353
She said that as an example because on NND they're only to say swimsuits instead of panties, but she also said she wants to go full 淫語

>>39520293
I do too, I wish she would do more fun things than just lewds. I wonder if her viewers pushed her into this because that's what brings money and views which of course it does, sex sells.
I miss her being cute. Wish she would focus on Noel too.

>>39520378
Wait Macoto does all that now

>>39520378
>Look at Macoto's plan
>60,000 yen a month
I hope it doesn't escalate into this.

>>39520460
Macoto also had a ridiculous tier like that on her Fantia

>>39520422
She is so naturally cute, you see it in the camera zatsus and Hololive 3Ds as Noel. The cooking streams were also relaxing to watch.
>Wish she would focus on Noel too.
She streams a lot as Noel though

>>39520425
Maybe, though I don't think so for the fake cum and dirty words, but the problem is that even if they do that stuff on a stream they risk getting the archive deleted or reprimanded in some other way by the staff, which is precisely what would lead to the people running it offering them another service if they really want to do that stuff, who knows maybe they just want to keep niconico "clean"
Also I just noticed both of them are using the wording ニコニコch＋α, must have been how they sold it to them.
>>39520460
That just her being a bitch with a no-benefits, extreme-simp only play, she has the same on Fantia and I doubt Canan would do anything like that.

>>39520422
>her viewers
I haven't really seen many people demanding that, at worst some saying that they're leaving because it's not how it used to be but I don't think she would pay that much mind.
It came from somewhere else and it's a lot more involved that her just deciding to do it, if it really is the same thing as M then we're talking about a big company offering her an opportunity and maybe even a contract that's hard to get out of now.

>>39520543
Maybe this is a thing with her getting older and cashing in now so she could open her own studio or get enough money to plan out something long term. She probably doesn't want to do this forever, she can't, and she can't be in Hololive forever.
She likely did her research, saw what other people are doing, like Macoto, and thought it would be a way to get a little more money so she can go through with plans when she's older.

I wish she would collab with indies or smaller streamers, Choco does it.
She could collab with Kson or Pikamee. She could really branch out and have fun. But she seems to only use Noel for gaming.

>>39522707
She's mostly concerned with Hololive and Hololive only, none of her Collab with outsiders really went anywhere with the exception of maybe Ui

My wife Noel is PURE.

>>39522934
I'm just saying she has limitless potential as Canan because she's popular and people now her but she's using it to make lewder asmr for more money, and yes it's about the money, it can't be because she's just fucking horny. She could be having fun and making interesting content instead of using dildos and fake cum to give more ammunition to antis on 4chan and 5ch to use against her or please her sicko fanbase that just need to rub one out but there's no shortage of that on the internet.
That's probably why she's so uneasy about it because she knows those people know she's Noel and they'll post on the internet about all the lewd shit this "idol" is doing on the internet. Macoto is indie and not an idol, doesn't matter what she does but Noel has an image. I'd usually be against it but maybe Cover should step in if she goes too far. Or Noel graduate to focus on this but isolates herself more sending her deeper into her depression.
I want her to be happy and healthy and I honestly can't fathom why she's considering this if she's unsure about and doesn't need the money. She's not being honest with us or herself.

>>39523396
You sound like a schizo

>>39523417
You're obviously not in the threads where people are posting her paywall images and using them to insult her and reduce her to a piece of meat.

>>39523396
If you don't like the direction she's heading into then maybe it's for the better to just drop her, better leave it in peace than slowly turn into an anti overtime, she already has plenty of those and it's not like they need much of an excuse to make her life as miserable as they can
Love and hate are two sides of the same coin and antis often come from hardcore fans who didn't like one thing and took a turn for the worse, there's more chill people like Mary or Lamy who will never bother you with roommate worries

>>39523480
I'm not going to become an anti and I'll continue supporting her. I just want her to be honest with herself. If she doesn't want to do it then don't do it, everything has worked out so far for this long.
Maybe the reason is too personal to share with us but she could just say that instead.

>>39523520
Understandable, there's still a reasonable amount of time until the new plan starts so hopefully when the time comes she has settled on something she's more comfortable with.
The idea of the fanclub itself it's not bad and it would be neat to see her use it more like Hololive handles theirs

my life will only be complete when i hear her say クソザコちんぽ

>>39523529
I'm just sick of being in a thread and having a good time and someone posts that fucking picture of her ass in the chair and everything gives him (You)s laughing at it. You know the one.

>>39523473
Thats your fault for still using /hlg/. The only good general vtuber thread on this site is the 774 thread on this board.

>>39266980

>>39523480
But why she doesnt do nudity at this point? She is brtter than actual JAV models.

>>39530745
You never go all the way, that's why people stop paying

>>39530745
Because its a big deal in Japan why do you think most gravure girls never do topless?

>>39530745
Because she doesn't want to go all the way, ecchi pays more than porn anyway. Also she still has Hololive and I feel like a JAV actress doubling as an idol would look bad. I wonder at what point Cover would step in.

Newfag here, Noel is cute

How awkward do you think the first stream for the new plan will be? Knowing her I don't expect she'll be able to keep a straight face playing with a dildo and saying chinpo for an hour, she'll definitely kill the mood at some point.

>>39536054
I'm expecting it to be full of giggles

Did noel ever said which countries she visited so far?

>>39541293
she probably never visited my country so i don't care

>>39541293
She's talked about coming to the US and going to LA. She went to Victoria Secret but they didn't have anything in her size.

Oh... It's OtakMori so take it with a grain of salt.
https://youtu.be/7Yn93zbfr2I

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1517514147381972992
She's probably doing to get drunk with her Noel Potion here.

You should rename the thread Canan since you never talk about Noel.

>Canan tweets mentioning couples day
>Comments are filled with thirsty, creepy comments about making her family and shit
I don't know what I expected.

>>39545119
What tweet, did she delete it?

>>39545119
She's a girlfriend experience, what do you expect?

Ever since following Canan and Macoto I've been getting big tiddy recommendations, this is Yuma and she's supposedly a P cup.

Canan has competition.

>>39545119
Did you miss the part with her saying she wants to be a family too? That's literally the kind of comments she's inviting.

>>39545854
Link?

>>39545858
Makes sense, she is ovulating. Man, this drinking stream is going to get weird, should probably save it.

>>39545885
https://twitter.com/yuma0ppai

>>39545894
It's a members stream so she won't go too hard, she tries to keep herself "presentable" there, except for that one Christmas.

>>39545119
>>39545858
>>39545894
She is just a lonely girl. But then she tweets something cute and gets thousands of people creaming themselves over her. So can't be all bad.
I wonder how a relationship with her would even be like, I doubt functional.

>>39545907
what yab did she say on chrisumasu?

>>39546692
She was just like depressed and started crying or something, I think it was before Hololive.

>>39546815
It was December 2019 so after she joined Hololive

>>39546839
Oh yeah a couple of months in, wasn't crying to her fans like "don't leave me"? I guess joining Holo and her fans complaining is what brought it.

>>39546858
I don't remember the details but she was really miserable around that time and hardly streaming.
It sounds weird but I think the DS streams changed something in her and made her happier.

>>39546949
loli witch game gets filtered as spam for some reason

>>39546858
Sounds like she was worried about losing fans because she joined Hololive, I don't know why she would if anything she'd get more once people did their research. She worries too much and it's pretty disheartening.

>>39546858
If I remember correctly it mas mostly 2 thing that go her really bad that stream, she really missed her mum and she fucking hated her job (remember that at the time she was still on her old office job, she only started doing streaming full time in 2020)

Huh, the goods she's working on aren't for her birthday but for June apparently

>>39266980

Damn this is lewder than some earlick streams.

titty suck asmr when

She called herself 業務委託, I wonder if that's different from being actual employees of Cover and is what gives them so much freedom outside, she does act like there's nothing her job could do matter how lewd she goes.

Do you think she gets people talking about Noel in those steamlabs donations? There's always a bunch that request to not be read out loud and she's like "message received", it does seem like the perfect medium to tell her something "private", and I remember there were a lot of them they day after Valentine's meet event.

>>39554246
What happened? I just woke up.
She talk more about the new plan or anything interesting? Missed majority of it, it seems.

>>39555126
She got horny and started showing off her thighs and shake her tits, chat said it was really "usable" for being a zatsudan stream and then she got happy and started teasing about with "usable for what", it was pretty hot.
Yeah she talked a lot about the plan, most likely will be 5k-6k for the live streams and 10k to access archives.

>>39555156
Not that anon but thank you. I don't speak Japanese and barely understand her but I feel that shouldn't get in the way of enjoying Noel and C's content. I still find her entertaining, cute, and genuinely a nice person. I tune into every stream as Noel and try to catch what I can of C even if it's just hearing her speak since her voice is so soft and relaxing. So thank you for translating.
Though I am trying but coming from English, Japanese is a difficult language to learn.

>>39555156
So it'll be around 5-6k just to access the stream and an additional 10k to access the archives? Did she mention how long we'll get access to the archives? The timezone I live in is trash for watching her live

>>39556781
10k plan would include both, getting to see live and then the archive, lower plan is just live.
I don't think she said how long but I doubt it would be forever, since she also wants to record them on 4k and then sell those videos like she's doing on fantia.

>>39556855
Oh I'm not expecting it to be archived forever. I was just worried it'd be archived for like a day or two. I'm hoping the archive will be up for 2 weeks just like the NND streams.

She's live.

>>39557951
Thanks

>>39557951
Already? Did she sleep at all?

>>39558190
She can't sleep which is why she's streaming. Counter productive, I know.

And she's gone.

>>39558224
Why couldn't she sleep? I assume stress, just about the new plan?

wondering if the archive anon will upload today's strewdam

wondering if the archive anon will upload today's stream on gdrive

>>39558913
The member stream will likely be up on nyaa later, but the anon that was archiving the community streams said he was stopping.

>>39559223
If i'm not wrong lytex dude just uploads the asmr ones

Aside from aggressively clearing her throat every now and then Marine doesn't sound too bad

Be honest, is she doing alright?

>>39568994
No, she's always sounds stressed and worried, now even more with this moving thing.

>>39568994
She is stressed.

>>39568994
Is she finally moving studios

>>39568994
She wants an event where she can talk with her Canan fans so she knows they're "real", that's like extreme loneliness.

>>39569215
meant for >>39569011

>>39569215
Yes, she was undecided between moving her home, probably to the same building as Lamy and Marine are planning, or to get a place close just to do ASMR that doesn't get the radio noise, and she's going for the second one. Also said for doing bathroom and cooking streams she would like a place different than her friends since she doesn't want to put them in danger if she was ever doxed.

>>39569566
>she would like a place different than her friends since she doesn't want to put them in danger if she was ever doxed.
That's nice of her but disgusting that has to be even thought of, I think she would enjoy being in the same building as her friends, would add comfort and a feeling of safety let alone belter mental health. But I get it, better safe than sorry.

>>39569377
Could also be a thing where she wants to see if they'd put the effort in seeing her in person. You know, see if they actually are real fans of hers or if they just view her as just jerk off material.

>>39569616
I am pretty sure the HaseKara debacle scared the shit out of everyone around her age. Even if she wasn't well known she would be taking precautions.

>>39569621
Why wouldn't they be her real fans? Even her popup talks where she gives no warning to get thousands of views. She gets loads of money from tens of thousands of people and Noel has almost 1.5 million subs and her ER playthroughs get an average of 20k views and her VODs get Hundred thousand. I love her but that level of insecurity is concerning.

>>39569647
>>39569659
It's more like real as in actual people and not just numbers on a screen, as C she talked about wanting to do something similar soon after Noel had the valentines event, like maybe she felt something there and she wants to get that same feeling from her Canan fans.

>>39569769
I wonder how that would work because the Hololive Valentine's Day event was Cover renting a space with PCs and webcams as well as security to stop any craizies getting in. Maybe a member's call in or something with a temporary account or discord channel. That's a lot of work and planning for someone already overworked and burned out.

Collab with Mikeneko when?

Dammit...
The cynic inside me thinks she does this for attention and knows the replies she'll get.

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1518312324876349440

>>39570310
That's not really being a cynic. Noel is extremely business savvy and knows very well what makes her money.

>>39570310
>>39570658
or maybe she actually genuinely lonely
I don't know why thats so unbelievable to you

>>39571308
I believe her, I even left a comment showering her with love but there is that part of me that she knows she can post something like that and get that reaction and if that makes her feel better than that's fine. I want her to be happy and it hurts seeing her so stressed out, burned out, and lonely.

I want to protect that smile.

>>39571308
I'm sure that's a part of it as well, I'm not dismissing that fact.

Chat stream
https://youtu.be/Aw8GxRxf6Zc

>>39573404
>酒
She's going full Lamy if you include all the drinking on the C streams

>>39573446
She'll probably go easy, maybe try to gin a bit and then switch to something lighter. It's Noel so she'll want to keep it professional.

Do you guys believe her when she says she only bought the dildo for ASMR and has never used it?

>>39573869
Who cares? She's human and has needs and masturbating is a great stress reliever and releases happiness chemicals.
Rather her use a dildo than ride a dick. Plus I own onaholes, I don't have a double standards.

I know she wouldn't anytime soon but hypothetically, do you think if push came to shove she would step away from Hololive and Noel and put her full time into Canan? I can't imagine her cutting down on Canan time but I can see her walking away from Noel.

>>39574137
Hololive would have to go down a really dark path for her to even consider graduating, If anything I would say it's more likely that she would dial down C activities in order to keep Noel afloat.
Mind you, I'm not saying she would outright quit C, but simply do less, it already happened before the November-December period before Holofes 2 was REAL dry in terms on C content and she even missed some members only streams because of her concert rehersals
She even apologized as C a the time asking for people's understand and that her that was keeping her so busy at the time was very important
I really don't see her quiting Noel unless Cover takes a turn for the worse by forcing her to do thing she doesn't like or forcing her to quit roommate activities, and if Cover go to that level you can bet Noel won't be the only one stepping down
I really don't get all the recent complaining that "she does too much as C" when in Hololive her hour are well above average and in punching range of Pekora and Flare who have some of the highest streaming hours in Hololive, add to that all the 3D appearances, main channel appearances, sponsored content she does a fucking lot as Noel, do people really think that a 1 hour and a half stream before going to sleep is taking away their precious Elden ring hours

>>39574203
That is true, I just think about the recent event where she got shit from a fan because she pushed her anniversary back to stream as Noel and he brought it up. She seemed pretty upset about it. But yeah, she's so happy as Noel and being in Hololive it's hard to imagine her leaving anytime soon unless more friends left like Marine or Flare but neither one of them seem to be leaving either.

>big announcement on June
Sounds like she's going to be really busy on both accounts come summer.

>>39578986
When is she not busy?
Once she settles in her new studio and settles into a schedule with the new plan, hopefully she'll be fine. But we've been dealing with this for years, her overworking herself isn't new.

Anon with an Irish flag spamming Canan in the /pol/ sticky. Must be stopped.

>>39582907
>/pol/