/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>3955876
Two words: Computer Science

We're the hottest group on the market right now.

>>3955882
I thought CS was completely saturated in the work market.

work?? pic related

My university has a world-renowned Co-op program, and excellent graduate support.

I'm sure I'll manage by continuing to leech off them.

Oh, sorry, slight miscalculation. 20% of the population starts attending college but drops out. The actual drop-out rate (and that means completely dropping out, not attending a different college later) is 36%.

>>3955882
No, not really. The market is completely saturated nowadays. And it's made worse by the recent economic crisis.

I have a job right now and the only reason I'm going to college is because I need a degree for them to promote me to full time.

I, for one, deliberately unsocialized so I can focus studying for my future career. Those normalfags are already years behind me and their lack of skills and professional endeavor makes me sick.

>>3955882
>Computer Science

Enjoy being 1 of 30 applicants, for every position you apply.

I'm in college so my parents will stop bothering me.

I go to Oberlin college.
It's pretty well known.
Also, I picked up Japanese like it was a pencil on the ground, and want to be a translator.
I have ins with multiple big names, such as Alexander O. Smith.
You know, the guy that translated FFXII and Phoenix Wright.
Yeah, I think I'll do ok.
-Freshman translating manga for money already.

>>3955890
Welcome to four years ago.

>>3955902
You do realize that of the things you learn at college, you'll only use a small percentage in your work? If you cannot socialize well enough, you're pretty much doomed when it comes to work.

>>3955903
CS != Artist

Sometimes I think I should change my Civil Engineering major to something truly useful/challenging instead (like music or eroge development).

I'm studying History and Psychology, so I'll either get a job, or stick to the university until they start paying me to teach.

:3

You people worry too much.

Dropped out of art school and college and have been doing online stuff ever since.

No retards, no classes, no commuting.

>>3955915
Yes, and that's why college feels so useless. Most of the time I'm using other sources as my study material and I'm practically teaching my teachers. Goddamn.

And by unsocializing I meant cutting out the useless crap, I'm always active with social ties regarding my work.

>>3955915

Discipline is just as important. Also, not every organization is a crazy political circus.

>>3955890
>>3955897

There's a huge number of shitty programmers, but very few good ones. If you're good, you should not have trouble finding a job. If you're an awful codemonkey who can barely write PHP, good luck with that.

>>3955876

I earn $100/hr on contracting and consulting jobs, and I'm a third-year. Best way for a hikkikomori to earn money.

>>3955903
If you're from caltech I think you'll be fine.

CS is an area where if you're very experienced you can name your own salary, but if you're fresh out of uni you basically can expect fifty other people with the exact same CV to be applying for every single job you want.

>>3955922
Music more often costs money than it earns money. Don't even think of trying to do it as a job; 99% of the people who try that fail.
People in eroge development aren't only not financially stable (there's a reason they need to add porn for it to sell well enough to break even), they are very much looked down upon. You will have no social status, at all.

>>3955978

"Fresh out of uni" and "very experienced" are not mutually exclusive. Get some good internship, do some open source work, and get a name to yourself before you graduate and you'll have no trouble.

The people who get screwed are those who do nothing but academics and expect a high-paying job on a silver platter despite having no real-world experience.

>>3955922
http://zepy.momotato.com/2008/09/09/eroge-production/

>>3955981

Agreed on the music part. If ANYONE here wants to be a musician for profit, read the following article first:

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

This thread makes me realize that many people from /g/ are also part of /jp/.
Oddly enough, there's not nearly as much trolling on /jp/, aside from threads like this.

>>3956004

/g/ is pretty shitty, and not really interesting for CS people. It's mostly just full of ricers talking about their rigs, desktops, and asking stupid homework questions every once in a while.

Oh, and trolling about macs/PCs/linux/BSD/plan9/OS2...

>>3955972
>implying you go to caltech
yeah and 90% of /jp/ goes to MIT

>What makes you think that you, a lazy social failure, can get a job after college?

Did someone that wants to be recognized with a tripcode say that? HAHA WHAT?

>>3956007
>implying it makes a difference if you go to a top institution

pic related

Most graduates have no experience.

This is what leaves them in the group with 30 others applying for the same job.

Having experience from and internship made all the difference in the world.

>>3956007
Regardless of whether you believe me or not, it's still a valid point against the saturation of the market.

>>3956015
So your point is that those graduating from top institutions need not worry about getting jobs after college?

>>3956009
Ad hominem, good sir. A valid argument is a valid argument regardless of who makes it. Try again.

>>3956011
Last I checked I (sadly) was not a vampire loli, so I think it'll go fine.

I've had jobs before college, I can get one afterwards.

>>3956007
>implying most of /jp/ doesn't go to MIT

>>3955897

>No, not really. The market is completely saturated nowadays. And it's made worse by the recent economic crisis.

every industry is like that you dumb fuck

>>3956019
Just that they will have an easier time doing so.

Create a mask of normalcy, stay distant from most people, remove said mask at home.

Many successful businessmen do it!

If I can't get a job with my future Systems Engineering degree, which I think it's rather hard given that there is a lack engineers around here, I could work as translator or tour guide.

obvious plan for any /jp/ CS major is make loli danmaku games.

Guess that's why I'll become a NET

>>3956030
Did I say other industries weren't also hard to get into? No, I said it'll be hard to find a job with a CS degree, regardless of how hard it is in other industries. Strawman argument.

>>3956044
Becoming a translator is nearly as impossible as becoming a profitable musician. What makes you so much better than the other 3564363 translators? The people doing professional translations generally have completely studied their target language for many years, being perhaps even more proficient in it than the average native speaker.

I'm in med school.

>>3955981
It was a joke, Katsu.

Sadly, the Erogame Development major doesn't exist at any major universities.

but I have a job(s) and make more money then you so yeah

>>3956074

Good translators are incredibly hard to find for some languages and incredibly easy for others.

For example, I suspect there are far fewer for Chinese, Japanese, Hindi, and Arabic than for Russian, German, and Spanish.

>>3956074
He could just learn a difficult or rare language.
Swahili, motherfucker, do you speak it?

I hate these threads because I am a long time NEET on government disability.

>>3956074

ITT people who don't know shit about the work environment try to analyze it.

maybe you should have went to college

This thread needs more despair.

Why are people saging the only good thread on /jp/ right now?

>>3955995
That's terrible. I always knew trying to "make it big" was a joke, though.

Hilarious reality: Japanese Touhou music remixers who whore out their doujin albums make more profit than that.

>>3956097
You'd be surprised.

>>3956110
Look at it positively: at least you won't be in for a nasty surprise at the end of college.

I speak English, Russian, French and German. (working on Japanese right now)

I won't have any trouble finding a job, right? RIGHT? ;_;

I'm waiting to see how well my last semester went, luckily accounting is a field that is still in demand in a shit economy. Unluckily, it's accounting.

>>3956148
As a translator? You'll fail. Being able to speak the language isn't nearly good enough. You have to EXCEL in the language you want to translate. If you try to learn that many languages, you might be able to have a decent grasp on all of the languages, but you won't be actually GOOD at any of them.

I'll be the first to admit that I've got nonexistent social skills. I couldn't start a conversation with a girl to save my life, and I'd rather eat dirt than make small talk. But that has nothing to do with my career success because I'm a psychopath in the classical sense. True enough, I suck at everyday conversation, but if it's goal-oriented conversation (i.e. for a job), then I'm the smoothest motherfucker you've ever heard. That's why I'm a social dunce for 16 hours of the day, but when I get put on the sales floor, I can sell tractors and lawnmowers like hotcakes.

By the way, I'm on my second year of law school, and I've practically got my job secured, with multiple backups plans.

I didn't want to become a translator anyways.
I study Japanese language and History along with Religious Studies at some uni in Germany right now.
Chances of getting a well paid job are slim though.

Sad how this thread ended up a "Hey look at me, I'm successful on /jp/! Suck my cock!" thread. Not that it wasn't heading there from the start.

>>3956177
Reminds me of myself.
I hate socialising with people but I do damn well at achieving my goals if I want to.

I don't expect to get a job. I don't even want to get a job. I'm just here to learn the right way to do what I do, since I've reached the limit of self-teaching. Afterwards I'll figure out some way to make my own money. If my dad did it, so can I.

/jp/ - Random

>>3956190
But do you want to?

>>3956177
>>3956190
And what about your colleagues? Just ignore them? If you don't fit into the team, you're worthless regardless of your skills.
In fact, if you can't socialize properly and are too skilled, your co-workers might even start becoming jealous and disliking you, making you a burden on the team.

>>3956188
Anons often like to say that they're different than other Anons.

I don't get it either.

I already have a good job and I haven`t even finished my second year.

I have a genius idea every couple months. I just need one to catch on and I'll have an income source for a decent portion of my life.

>>3956234
The jobs I coul'd do with my degree won't be jobs where you have lots of contact with your collegues.
And saying hi and such isn't hard even for someone who doesn't like to socialize.

my salary is 7 digits, just like my cock, and Im only 19.

Take this shit to /r9k/.

>>3956234
That's not a problem for me. I've had part-time jobs before, and I hated every one of my coworkers. They were all lazy, useless, complaining trash. I wouldn't have been adverse to slitting their throats in a back alley if I thought that I wouldn't get caught. But, you know what? They never knew. That's because I can always put on that big fake smile, pretend to listen to their insipid and meaningless small talk, and still manage to go out for drinks after work with them.

>>3956247

Your cock is only supposed to be one digit, unless you're /d/ material

Threads like these make me hate how everything is going ;_;

Took a year off after high school because i have little interest outside of /jp/

Bleh, close to saying fuck it and just go professional in counter strike again, LANs make you good money. Only thing is after a year or so yeah you're set for a bit, but you have little real life skills outside communication to help you in the work force. Unless you whore yourself out to qpad or something

>>3956270
>professional gayman

>>3956284

Its retarded

But its better then 7/11

>>3955876
This is an offtopic meta thread. There are only 3 imageboards on 4chan where this thread topic is allowed --> /r9k/, /adv/, and /b/. And on top of that I hate this thread.

According to Jones, since I don't like this conversation you guys are having I'm supposed to spam it with Touhou images in order to disrupt the conversation. If I cant have fun, nobody can have fun.

It's a good thing I'm not a retard like Jones. Carry on mates. I'm going to go fap to some futa.

>>3956296
I dunno about that. How stable would your income be?

If you get wrecked in a crucial match because you're not feeling well, how much would you stand to lose versus having an admittedly mundane, but everyday, job

# Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography.

>>3956336
>>3956343

Curse you Anonymous H. Jones!!

I find extremely surprising that people still reply to Katsu-kun threads.

This one time, at touhou camp... reimu was ridin' my balls

>Society tells you that once you finish college, you'll get a nice job.

What kind of bullshit society do you live in?
Stupid nig, I am not nearly so deluded.

I don't plan to get out of college until I'm ceritified in like 4 things. Honestly I for 1 year of university you can go to community college for 8.

jack of all trades, ace of none.

Also I already have a wellpaying multitude of jobs I just wanna be able to get a nice house and such. Rather than a peice of shit in the ghetto or a double wide.

why does it always diminish into touhou spam

>>3956307

Mostly depends on how well you can far off in the world of esports.

If you really get a set of guys that dominate, if you get picked up by a major org. and whore your name out a bit, you can generally get well off enough to sustain life for a bit.. IF you're willing to drop -everything- for it to get at that level.

School. Work. Friends. Whatever else that may occupy your time.

Its a weird life, but if you love it you love it

Assuming you don't mind everyone thinking you wasted your life

>>3956432
protip "no moderation" means user moderation. This shit don't belong here.

>>3955876
If going to college makes you a social failure, then that just means that go fuck yourself.

>>3956432
Becuase it takes a retarded troll to stop dumbasses from replying seriously to another retarded troll.

>>3956452
except its a nice break from the usual touhou/VN troll threads.

College fags are too full of themselves. Plenty of us here are NEETS and don't share in your chosen path in life. You all have a sense of entitlement that is mind boggling. Your parents have it too. Fuck you all you worthless greeheads.

>>3956476
Are you trying to say that you support a /b/-tier troll and the bullshit he brings here just to see how fags react?
Under that logic Arc should make more threads about whatever.

>>3956476
sup Katsu.

Oh wait, I'm Katsu. Then who are you?!?!

>>3956493
You mean to say he shouldn't?

>>3956440
Pretty much this. Get an Associates in 2yrs with several or more certificates and you'll be so diverse that you'll be able to fulfill the entry level requirements of the majority of the jobs that are even remotely related in your field.

>>3956493
hey now, arc is a faggot, but this katsu guy doesnt seem so bad.

I was thinking of getting some tech related certificates and getting some low to mid tier job like that. I can support myself with an A+ and Network+, right?

How is not being ignorant worthless?

>>3956429
Pretty much this. Get an Associates in 2yrs with several or more certificates and you'll be so diverse that you'll be able to fulfill the entry level requirements of the majority of the jobs that are even remotely related in your field.

>>3956530
You must be trolling. You're comparing a shitposter like Katsu-kun to Arcueid Brunestud?

>>3956530
>but this katsu guy doesnt seem so bad.
Take a trip to the archive, newfriend.

I already have a job.

Kiss my shining red rectum college fags. Enjoy your massive debt and corporate slavery.

>>3956545
You, Arc and ZUN!bar for example are on (bad)troll tier.
Shitposter tier is made of Jones, Taiko and the likes.
And then there are the guys that hate this board and all it's users and would love to see it dead like dawson anon.

Nameless Jew here. The whole point of this spam was to show Jones how retarded his spam logic was. The delete code for these post should be obvious to you.

My decision to do this in this thread was because this thread had the highest post rate on the main page. Maybe from Jones' stupidity, we could all learn a lesson or two about the negative consequences of taking the law into our own hands.

>>3956558
>your massive debt
Not at a community college.

>>3956558
How do you intend to support yourself after your parents die?

>>3956548
Ive been around here since 2 years before /jp/ was split from /a/, though you must forgive me for not keeping up with tripfags too much, I do have other things to do, such as building the AI for my lolibot 5000.

>>3956566
>community college

>>3956567
My parents are dead. Survival and a nice life do not hinge on a college education and slavery to corporate overlords.

>>3956562
What?
>>3956558
Since when studying makes you a slave?

>>3956562
Let me be the first one to say that you're fucking stupid and that your level of autism is worth of praise on a imagebaord full of autism. Congratulations, Shinji.
Oh and you'll be crying right next to Jonesy after this shit turns further into /jp/ - Random/General

So much anger today, everyone needs to take it easy.

I'm not studying to make money. I already have enough of that to live a hundred years without working.

>>3956558
>massive debt

Get a job bro.

>>3956581
>Oh and you'll be crying right next to Jonesy after this shit turns further into /jp/ - Random/General

>Implying it already hasn't.
Why is /jp/ so shitty?

>>3956611
Sure you do athens, sure you do.

I generally don't sage, but I'll make an exception this time so this thread will hit the image limit faster.

You

>>3956627
To be honest it still lacks the necessary speed to be considered Random enough, autism-kun.

Just

Suck my penis college boy.

Lost

The

Game

No Katsu-kun, you are the game.
And then Katsu-kun was banned.

thread now about touhou puppies

Finally get bored?

>>3956562
Joke's on you robotech bro, I wasn't even here yesterday!
You're lucky I'm as vain as I am beautiful and search for my own name sometimes.