/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I don't like spells that force me to move around the entire field because I never feel ready & equipped
There's usually like 1, maybe 2 spell or non in the entire game in 1 out of 2 games at most that plays like that and so it's hard to build any fundamental out of this little exposure. It usually means the spell's gonna take longer too which isn't fun. I like my spells to last 15, maybe 20 seconds depending on shot type.

>>39352987
I hate any patterns that have tiny bullets. Shimmy's first few nons, Ringo's last card, etc. They're so much harder to dodge than normal or big-sized bullets for some reason.

I think I could actually do it this time!
Was a first for me to capture any of her spells.

Looking good.

Damn... can I actually do it? My first 1CC?

>>39355240
>almost max lives
You have to try really hard to fuck that up. Also take a normal screenshot for god's sake.

I DID IT!!! MY FIRST NORMAL 1CC!!!!
YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWW!!!
>>39355284
Normal screenshots don't work with 2hu.

>>39355347
Spoilers...

>>39355480
Sorry...

>>39352987
Junko's final is the worst spell in the series. Not because it's hard, but because it wastes 30 seconds of your time each attempt before it makes you dodge anything.

>>39355347
Very impressive for a 60+ year old, well done. Next time get your grandson to configure your GPU settings and show you where the "Home" key is.

>>39355610
Now do SakuyaB

>>39355645
I can try, but I don't see it working without her OP barrier.

>>39355347
Print screen and pasting into paint has never failed me.

>>39355663
She's the worst shot in the game, arguably in the entire series too, but it's something you won't really understand unless you experience it and the other shots as a comparison.

>>39355240
>>39355610
Going into the final boss with almost a full life counter on your first 1CC is impressive, even if it is SakuyaA on Normal
>>39355347
Press P

>>39355833
Thanks, it was my second time reaching Shinmy on normal.
I don't think I was that good on easymodo either.
>>39355797
Okay I'll try it out.

>>39352987
Kanako's last card
>L-lul normalshitters!
Idc, I can except final cards giving bomb immunity to bosses, but making the bombs useless to even clear bullets to reposition or to speed kill some of the boss's HP is unfair.

>>39356518
That spell card is pretty hard. I 1CC'd the game on Lunatic

>>39356518
I'm a normalshitter and Kanako probably has the most fun last card of all the final bosses I've seen so far. No phase bullshit, no routing, just pure fast-paced reflexes.

>>39353292
>it's hard to build any fundamental out of this little exposure
Do you never go to the point of collection during stages.

>>39356518
So the reality is you would probably hate tons of cards even more but you just don't know it because you bombskip them.

>>39360131
>So the reality is you would probably hate tons of cards even more but you just don't know it because you bombskip them.
Yes, and?

>>39352987
>What are your least favorite spells?
Anything that requires you to focus on several things, spells that have many projectiles with different speed and especially spells that go from bottom and top at the same time.

>>39352987
I've always had a personal gripe with Ran's Charming Siege. It's nowhere near the hardest cards I've played anymore, but it is my least favorite and has been since I first practiced that stage. Sometimes like 80% of your available movement area gets pushed off bounds just because and you just have to pray the RNG is nice with you during that time. Even when it doesn't, the walls' movement is really unstable so it does really annoying shit pretty often. It's like the card just exists to piss me off instead of just being a regular challenging card.

>>39362198
This.

>>39364011
only 72 points that far into the level?

>>39364247
That screenshot was from pacifist runs I was doing several years ago. It turns out that card's RNG problems become extremely evident when you have to time it out. Surprisingly, Blue Oni Red Oni is probably the hardest spell to time out in PCB Extra. Could never put together a no miss pacifist run because of it.

>>39352987
The moment bullets start crisscrossing and I'm expected to constantly weave through openings is the moment I give up hope on ever capturing that spell

Who's the best shot type for TD?
I can get to Miko with RReimoo easily but usually only have one life left at that point, an life pieces are really rare in that game.

>>39369398
I thought I'm one of those rare species that can one CC some games but stuck at TD

>>39369648
Oh really? It appears to be rather easy compared to others imo.

>>39355347
Congrats, man. I could never get into DDC, I really dislike the POC lives gimmick.
By the way, in Touhou games you can press P to take a screenshot, it saves to the game's directory. I think this only works from MOF onwards, but I might be remembering wrong and it works in all of them.

>>39370279
IN onwards

>>39370279
Thanks man, it was a big moment for me. I've been playing 2hu for more than half a year now.
>>39370279
>you can press P to take a screenshot
Oh neat, where exactly are they saved though? Because I just can't find them.

>>39370462
They get saved in the game's folder. They're in bmp format though, so you need to resave them as png before you can post them here. Or just use sharex and take screenshots normally.

>>39369398
Marisa sux.
Sanae is alright.
Youmu is very good but takes some getting used to. Stage 5 is a freebie for her.
I don't remember how good Reimu is but considering that I cleared TD with her first she's probably pretty good.

>>39374935
>Youmu is very good
I can't even clear easymodo with her...

>>39374968
Her charged focused shot is stupid good, but it does take a bit of getting used to. It's easy to lock up during boss fights or difficult sections and not release focus. You just need to get down the rhythm of flickering it off and on to maximize DPS.
It can also get you more life and bomb pieces by immediately shooting down multiple big fairies in the parts where they appear in pairs or threes.

>>39374968
Once you get decent at her, Youmu can spawnkill most of the stage mobs and breeze through the game. The good thing about Youmu is that she's playable in easy games where you don't really have to juggle dodging bullets and charging attacks too much, at least on normal mode. I don't have the balls to attempt to beat Mamizou or Saki with her.

>>39375375
Saki isn't that much harder with Youmu than with anyone else, considering how much of that stage and fight is Roar management. YoumuE is a bit more annoying because of the damage bug, but even so, it's not a big deal.

Got the games again but they have all the thcrap folder. I did remember that it was kinda a botnet, should i re-download them from the torrent since i saw them without that folder?

>>39378086
It isn't botnet, that's just an insult thrown around by people who dislike it more than it rightfully deserves, and believed by people who don't know any better. If you're really worried, you can download all the translation assets manually, then run the program offline by deleting one of the libraries (IIRC, thcrap_update.dll). Either way, you will have use it if you want to play 14 and onward in any language other than Japanese, so you might as well accept it.
Of course, I'd recommend downloading the megapack anyway.

>>39378558
>run the program offline by deleting one of the libraries (thcrap_update.dll)
Now that i remember, i deleted that type of file years ago. I really don't mind to play in jp, my pc locale is already setting with that.
Thanks for the answer.

I'm not sure why it's just started to bother me, or maybe it's a new issue somehow, but EoSD looks terrible. It makes me feel like I'm crosseyed.
There's also weird lines where things get split and items as well as some bullets seem to have a really bad blur effect. I don't remember it looking this terrible.
It's hard to look at.

I have once again game over'd whilst in possession of 4 bombs

>>39380179
That happens all the time, important thing is not to let it bring you down!

>>39378558
nta but what if thcrap is there but I don't use it?

Is it just me or TN bombs are garbage? There are times when I open Sakuya's bombs and it dealt literally zero damage? Cost my 1CC run today, totally not because I choked because I'm playing in a bad mood

>>39384503
For Remilia's bomb, you have to place yourself on top of the boss to deal more damage. For Sakuya's bomb, I have no idea

You Grow Bigger can suck my little penis

>>39384503
There are a few decent ones like Reimu's but generally they are dogshit. And even if your team has a good bomb there's chance of accidentally using shitty one. In case of Scarlet Team both bombs are trash.
Having unreliable bombs is very frustrating. Plus there's chance of accidentally spending two. Fuck IN.

>>39388279
I CCd with the other three shot types, but Team Sacrlet bombs feels way more garbage. At least with the other shot types even if I got the worse bomb I can at least clear the screen, Team Scarlet can't even do that which is the bare minimum.
>B-but Remy's DPS!!!
Team Magician can deliver the same amount of damage AND get free POC from stage 1with bigger collecting range. The only good thing Team Scarlet have compared to TM is Sakuya's spreadshot, and even then the damage is embarrassing compared to Yuyuko or even Reimu.

>>39388462
Remi's is the most safe and consistent of heavy damage dealers because there's no jank involved.

>>39388462
Everyone gets a free PoC if you hold shift, why is that a factor?

i still can't get through yuugi's midboss spell on normal without bombing

Finally after one year of choking at MoF

>>39397333
r u playing on mobile??

>>39397516
I saved the video on my phone and I forgot to crop that shit oh God I feel retarded

>>39355347
>>39397333
Why not just press P?

>>39401403
I tried, doesn't work. I can do it by pressing Windows and PrntScreem though, but sometimes I fucked up and the screen just open to HomeScreem which is annoying. Also, I want to try 1CCing MoF again with another shot type, what's the easiest ones besides Marisa B and Reimu B?

>>39404445
Use shareX

>>39404472
That's a rather uncommon shot type haha.

>>39404445
Anything but ReimuC

>>39404503
I know sorry, that was just for taking screenshots more easily. The kind of shot type you'd find in StB.

Pain

Can anyone help me? I CC'd MoF again today and captured Peerless Wind God for the first time, but the replay for the Stage 4 showed a run where I run out of lives instead? I really want to save a video of that Spellcard capture so if theres a way I could get that replay back....

>>39409690
I'm pretty sure MoF has desync issues with replays. Try starting the replay from stage 3.

>>39409690
Pretty much what >>39409730 says, in general if there are desync issues then trying to replay from the previous stage or maybe even the whole run might help. Some games have particular bugs that cause desyncs, those can be fixed with thprac but I don't think MoF is one of those games. I've seen it work with WBaWC and UM though, so it might be still useful to know in the future.

My new monitor has shitty input lag and now I can't deathbomb for shit. Hell, I bombed a little early for it even. This sucks.

>>39409730
>>39409775
Tried the first anon suggestion but the stage 4 run doesnt continue to play on Stage 3, can't even replay the whole run when I tried replying Stage 1. I looked up on the player data and the spell card capture shows 0 captures for the card, so I guess the run does gone up forever in smokes.

>>39410024
What monitor is it?

>>39410294
Samsung CF396

>>39410622
Looks like it's got a game mode, have you tried that?

>>39410795
No. I don't really understand the buttons or if they're really buttons.

>>39410853
Never mind. I figured it out. It's like a weird switch with the power button.

>>39410795
Looks really awful. Like a kid played with the image settings.

>>39410920
Game mode disables most of the image processing stuff to avoid increasing the input lag as much as possible, but once you've set it you can still probably change the color settings to make it look decent.

>>39410024
How do you check your monitor's inputlag?
I have an ancient display and I wonder if it's bad.

>>39410955
It doesn't let me change the settings on game mode. Probably won't look too bad if I use it only while playing. Reading text feels like my eyes are going to get cut on it though. Oh well, I'll be fine.
>>39411081
If you know/can find the model name, you can probably just look it up. That's what I did at least.

>>39411191
>If you know/can find the model name, you can probably just look it up. That's what I did at least.
"*display model* input lag"?
Can't find anything that way

>>39411191
nvm, found
5 ms
is that good or bad?

>>39411246
That's fine. Less than half of mine.

>>39411272
Nice, I've wanted to buy a new one, at least now I know what I should look out for.

I have never ever beaten Eirin on a 1cc. I always go for Kaguya.

>>39411246
Not even the best gaming monitors get below 8ms input lag at 60hz, are you sure you're reading the right info?

>>39411346
He might have a 120hz display. They've been around for a while at this point.

>>39411346
I may be wrong, I don't know.
I guess what I'm reading now about modern displays having up to 1ms input lag only works for max HZ settings? Fuck, that makes my choice harder.
>>39411387
Nah, my current display is really ancient
benq v2420

>>39411387
Yeah, but the games still run at 60hz and running them in exclusive fullscreen mode (which implies the screen will run at 60hz) is imperative if you want to avoid the (relatively) massive input lag caused by the desktop window manager (dwm)

>>39411472
Can't you just limit FPS in game?

>>39411472
Sorry, I'm not very knowledgeable about computers. I can read some numbers, and that's about it.

>>39411476
Vpatch takes care of that already, but unfortunately I don't know if the game will allow you to keep 120+Hz on exclusive fullscreen or if it'll force 60Hz. I'll need to try on one when I get my hands on it in a couple weeks.

>>39411565
>I'll need to try on one when I get my hands on it in a couple weeks.
Please post results itt.

>>39411515
That's ok, in either case the difference between 1ms and 8ms is extremely small, less than half a frame and less than a hundredth of a second. Anything below 10ms should be more than fine, at that point most of the input lag comes from the keyboard or controller anyways.

>>39411565
>>39411585
I have a 120Hz monitor and it forces 60Hz unfortunately. I remember someone posting a patch for 120Hz EoSD here, but I can't seem to find it in the archives anymore.

>>39411585
Sure.

>>39411618
So for 2hu you need to look out for a monitor that has lowest inputlag on 60hz?

>>39411618
>>39411634
Oh, nevermind then.
For the patch, here's the link: https://joec.moe/touhou/touhou.html
It feels butter smooth to play on doubled framerate, so much that it almost feels like cheating. Keep in mind that this patch is mostly a proof of concept and features a few bugs.

>>39411636
Yeah, that seems to be the case after all. Here's a pretty good list. 8ms is the absolute minimum and anything between 8 and 10 is really good.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

>>39411729
I've found this list too.
Everything except Samsung Odyssey G9 is 16:9
Is there a problem with input lag on 21:9 monitors?

>>39411743
I doubt it's any different. Make sure to disable GPU scaling on the driver settings so the monitor will take care of things once 640x480 kicks in instead of having the GPU handle all those useless pixels on the sides.
Personally, I want to get something higher than 1080p for better text readability, so I'm looking at the huawei mateview which is 3:2 4K (which is also great for accurate scaling) and according to a review has 10ms lag on 60hz.

>>39411815
>I want to get something higher than 1080p for better text readability
I have 1440p monitor and I ended up having to scale up most websites' because everything's too small.

Everyone knows the only way to play is on a crt monitor.

>>39412023
That's normal because they're all made for 1080p. By setting 200% scaling on a 4k you get everything at the usual size, but with four times the pixel density and character definition. I'm used to it because of having an 1080p screen on my 13" notebook, whenever I have to read for a few hours on the 1080p 24" monitor I'm currently using on my desktop pc my eyes end up hurting, while I can carry on forever like it's nothing on my notebook.

>>39410024
>not predicting the curves of the bullets ahead of time
ngmi

>playing peerless wind god for 2 hours straight
>only 2 captures
God I hate this spell so god damn much

>>39415549
are you doing LNN?

>>39415573
I'm skilled enough to 1cc it but not to LNN, just trying to improve my dodging for now, and the only way I know to do it is to spam spells that are way too hard

>>39415549
what's your capture history by now

>>39416146
Only like 5 captures out of 200+ tries on peerless wind god

Newfren here, I'm finally done with EoSD after suffering for almost half a month, I even had to try other danmakus (mostly Gunbird) to practice as I was being filtered so hard. I got hooked so I was planning on playing PCB, anything I should know about it or the other games?

Also, Remilia best girl

>>39418076
PCB is a good choice if you want to continue down the windows-era path, otherwise give the PC98 games a try because they'll feel weirder the more windows games you've played.
>anything I should know about it
Its cherry point system is a bit particular before you get used to it, so read the manual that comes with the game (use gtranslate if needed) and the gameplay info on the touhou wiki.
The most important thing to know about it is that you gain points more quickly by hitting stuff while you're shooting unfocused. This gives you free shields so it's a fun risk and reward system.

>>39418076
>I was planning on playing PCB, anything I should know about it
You unlock Phantasm stage by capturing 60 different spell cards and clearing Extra stage.
You get border at 50k cherry+ points which can be farmed by hitting enemies with unfocused fire.

>>39352987
Lazers, especially curvy lazers
>>39418076
Congrats, two weeks is pretty quick. You might as well continue with PCB.
>anything I should know
In some of the 98 games, your hitbox is a square. I can't remember which game changed to a circle.
Every windows game has unique mechanics, the wiki will help you understand them, but if you have questions, such as which character/shot, this thread might be a better reference.
StB, DS, and ISC are great for practicing spells. StB really eases you into it. I like these games because you can progress through them in shorter play sessions. Practicing stages for the main games is also short, but it is part of a larger preparation, while these spin-offs allow you to focus on one card and then you are finished.
MoF reboots the gameplay and is widely accepted as one of the easiest games, along with IN and TD. If you want an easy lunatic 1cc, MoF is not a bad place to start.

>>39418076
>I've been playing for a year and can't do EoSD extra
>newfags can do it after a month

>>39418914
Maybe he's been playing several hours every day and you've been only playing twice a week. That's the case for me at least, so I don't care about comparisons. Everyone has their own rhythm and turning it into a race will only result in burnout.
In short: Take it easy!

I'm going fucking insane trying to do Lunatic EoSD, stages are zero fun when you get overwhelmed if you don't remember where things spawn, I'm overloaded with stress after 30 minutes of dying randomly at stage 2/4 and just booting up THPrac to play bosses comfortable enough
I'd play other games, but I really like Marisa in EoSD and EoSD gameplay in general
I know there is no solution to my problem but I have to make this post otherwise I might break something close to me

I've been slacking a lot lately with touhou. I'm going to play a bit everyday until I'm satisfied with that I've accomplished.

I just need to clean up my gameplay on stage five, and i should be able to make it. Hopefully i can get a 1cc by the end of the week.

I fucking HATE Dazzling Color Typhoon and the spellcard before it. It's my biggest fucking obstacle up to stage 6. FUCK MEILING

>>39419621
Stage 4 books fuck me up desu, they're harder that Patchy

babbymode game

If anyone has some pointers on stage 5, I'll happily take them. or on anything really. I'm getting close to the 1cc.
https://files.catbox.moe/eekrz1.rpy

>>39422003
>10 bombs used
Unironically just don't die with bombs in stock. You get a maximum of 30 bombs

>>39422012
I'm trying not to. Sometimes I get completely caught off guard though. I've stopped trying to capture inconsistent spellcards at least.

>>39352987
Okina's finals
Especially Hidden Perfect Summer Ice destroys me

>>39352987
>Touhou
>Gameplay
Literal Mental illness

>>39422677
FUCK OFF!

>>39352987

Rate my game

http://chan.nuni.jp

>>39418914
Its just talent I guess. I saw a reddit newfag posting how he managed to beat Mokou eleven days after playing 2hu. I hope he was just shitposting though, otherwise it just kills my morale.

>>39422003
I probably can help with Stage 4 or 6, but I bomb most of Sakuya's shit too. But maybe this guy can help you https://youtu.be/OJM0HhKyryw

>>39423553
I meant the actual stage portion. For me, most of Sakuya's attacks just feel like Daiyousei's one attack where a bunch of bullets center in on you and there's the stream of bullets on the outside. Most of her knives center in on your position, the rest leave a pretty decent sized gap in between.
You can move toward the top of the screen before she attacks, which will more or less take a lot of the knives out of play making it a lot easier to go through the attacks.
I can make a webm. I probably explained that like a retard.
Fuck the midboss non-spell though. I fuck that one up a bit.

>>39423598
I think Stage 5 just takes practice compared to the hell of Stage 4. As for the mid boss, just stream to the opposite direction where she moves very slowly.

>>39423830
Figures. I probably only touched stage 5 10 or so times, so I still don't know it too well.

How do you guys play without homing shots?

>>39427779
How do you play with those shit damage?

>>39427779
I don't. Reimoo only babby!!

>>39427779
>>39427811
I 1cc with all shot types both to get the full experience, and to prove to myself that I'm not leaning on any one gimmick as a crutch. It's fun to see both sides and play in different ways.
But at the end of the day, I still prefer high-damage types.

>>39427779
I like dealing damage.

>>39427779
>playing touhou
HAHAHA no. We just watch the IOSYS videos and read doujinshi.

>>39352987
Can someone fill me in as to what happened with MoriyaShrine? I heard that it got DMCA'd and that all the downloads got taken down, but I just checked it out and it seems I can download some of the games just fine.

>Least favorite spells
Any of Shou's spells. They're all ballbustingly difficult in their own unique way.

>>39423541
Mokou is really easy though

>>39443560
What did you say about Mokou

>>39406212
What's wrong with Reimu C?

>>39406212
>>39446734
ReimuC really isn't that bad
t. got a ReimuC Lunatic 1CC

>>39446734
ReimuC is a spread shot. So unlike the rest of the shottypes, ReimuC does little damage. A bit lesser than ReimuA, for instance.

Sure, it has long range, but the same goes for MarisaA. So I don't know why would you prefer ReimuC over other shottypes. ReimuC is not that bad, but she's the bottom regardless. Maybe MarisaB too but since the glitch makes her OP, I don't know if she counts.

>>39449020
>I don't know why would you prefer ReimuC over other shottypes
Because she has a smaller hitbox slower focused speed so she's better for micrododging than the Marisa shots
>Maybe MarisaB too but since the glitch makes her OP, I don't know if she counts
If you aren't using vpatch to fix the bug you're a cheating and your 1CC isn't valid

>>39449047
*cheater

>>39449047
>If you aren't using vpatch to fix the bug you're a cheating and your 1CC isn't valid
Not comes to the decision, but my autism can't handle the need to mod the game for it to be valid. So I don't mod it. I don't even play MarisaB just because that too.

>>39449047
>If you aren't using vpatch to fix the bug you're a cheating and your 1CC isn't valid
I just 1CC with Marisa B glitch to unlock Stage 6 in practice and now I CC it with Reimu A and B. I have no idea how the fuck Marisa A and C works I'll either practice for extra or for harder levels, or I just try and 1CC other games instead

>>39431593
Look for the GAP thread, ctrl f moriya

>>39374935
>Marisa sux
>Sanae is alright
Yeah, you have no clue what you are talking about

>>39454682
>muh 0.001% faster boos kill if you stay perfectly on target 100% of the time
No. Just no.

>>39456240
You have no clue what you are talking about.

http://replay.lunarcast.net/replay/th13_ud3368.rpy

Played hard mode for the first time. It seems that it is possible to pass using the same strategy as in normal mode.

>>39459370
Yes.

>>39456240
XXC, retard.

How do you deal with Suwako's first card? I watched gameplays and guides but I still dont get it. Also how good is Marisa B glitch does against her, or is it better to use a Reimu?

>>39460651
Glitched MariB is always the best option, if you don't mind not feeling any satisfaction at your "accomplishment".
As for the first card, it tells you where to go. Move towards the side with the blue lasers and stay near them for as long as possible, to misdirect the bullets. The correct side alternates with each wave.

>>39459370
Yeah, hard and normal are pretty similar for the most part. Lunatic is where the big difficulty jump is.

>>39460651
>Marisa B glitch
Your 1CC will not be valid

How do you even abuse the MarisaB bug without intentionally doing so? The vpatch has it disabled by default, or at least the moriya shrine version of the game does.

>>39460651
It's pretty fast so you'll need to be unfocused a lot and be careful not to run into things. You'll probably need to do it some times to get comfortable with how close to the walls you can move without dying.

Where do I get touhou 6 from?

>>39465597
https://doujinstyle.com/?p=page&type=2&id=1

Anyone else feel like HSiFS is way too fast-paced?
I guess you just have to get used to spamming bombs and releases, but I always die with bombs in stock and lose like 4-5 at once that way.

>>39468589
>Anyone else feel like HSiFS is way too fast-paced?
MoF is faster

>>39465518
Despite all our best efforts, it's likely that most people don't play with vpatch. I mean, look at this very thread, there are people who are too retarded to take a screenshot, do you really think they can handle running a different executable? And there are plenty of normalfags and other tech illiterates who, even you painstakingly explained it to them, would just go "that sounds like a virus, I'm not doing that".

Staying at 3.XX power means bosses don't drop as many point items, so the MarisaB bug isn't a big deal in the long run. It's only used to speedkill one spell that's bombskipped in scoring runs with other shot types anyway.

>>39473032
At least we try to play the game....At Normal mode too.

>yeah, I am deliberately using a bug that's notorious for making the game easier
>I'll still fill in my 1CC chart and claim to have beaten the game
lmao you're not any better than easyshitters. In fact, they're ahead of you since they at least beat the game fair and square

>>39475928
Who are you quoting?

>>39475928
I don't know what you're so worried about. If someone actually tries to brag about it like that, anyone looking at their chart and seeing the only MoF 1CC is with MarisaB is going to know why.

Anyone that tracks 1CCs is a shitter anyway.

>>39476345
>Anyone that tracks 1CCs is a shitter anyway.
How am I supposed to know which ones I've beaten then?

>>39476345
>Anyone that tracks 1CCs is a shitter anyway.
Everyone with bad memory is a shitter or everyone who cares about his progress is shitter?

>>39476687
>>39476714
Anyone who still cares about collecting 1cc's is a beginner. It's ok though, we all start somewhere.

>>39479491
This, I've probably never finished a 1CC above easymodo but I don't care.
That makes me a pro 2hu player now apparently.

>>39479491
i personally care about 1ccs
how else am i gonna show off?
it feels much better than doing spellcard practice

>>39479491
It's okay if you can't get one, just keep trying.

>>39479491
What game do you score? Honest question. I'm a 1cc collector myself and I'd like to try out scoring, but I'm not sure where (or when) I should start.

>>39479491
I like filling squares in various colors more than I care about self-imposed challenges.

>>39482349
Play whichever game you enjoy. That's the most important thing, because you will have to sink a lot of time into the game to get anywhere. It will help for the future if you play games with common scoring mechanics, like SA and not HSiFS.

HSiFS is the only game where scoring isn't complete shite.

Takes break from Touhou for nearly a week and I'm really rusty now. How do I comeback? Should I take a shower?

>>39487348
Play something really easy to get your confindence up.

WBaWC feels like it has the biggest disparity in difficulty between Normal and Hard. Either that or MarisaWolf is broken.

>>39487348
Replay the games you finished.

I don't care about if you think Okuu is too easy, her boss battle is one of the funniest to do.

>>39503086
i always liked how you can kinda see her character from her danmaku, especially her nonspells with big bullets that tend to have very predictable safe zones, sometimes even moving in straight lines. very fitting for a birdbrain with a lot of power.

When do you guys decide 'fuck this game, I'm playing another series' or even 'thats enough 2hu for today'?

>>39507732
Every time i die to stage 1 scrubs.

>>39507732
Whenever I'm playing purely on muscle memory after tons of retries.

>>39507732
If I die more than once to stupid shit in a run.

>>39507732
I don't because Touhou is the only game I play

>>39507732
dying with 3+ bombs in stock and then later realizing I could had 1CC'd the game if it wasn't for said death

>>39507732
When I said I'd go to bed at 10:30 but it's 3:30 AM and I have work at 9

>>39508829
This is me....

How do I git gud at books?

>>39509827
The EoSD stage 4 books? Just micro dodge, unironically. I'm only a Normal player though, if you play at harder difficulty I can't really help

>>39507732
If I keep dying on stage 1/2 it's a pretty good sign I need a break.

>>39509827
be under 25 and genetically gifted

>>39422003
Sakuya's spell cards go on cooldown and have a sound cue before she shoots and freezes time. Get in her face during her cooldown to end those phases quickly.

I made it to Stage 4 in my first MoF hard mode run, am I gonna make it?

>>39516986
Yeah, easily. Don't worry. I happened to clear it on my first try. Be liberal with your bombs.

>>39508829
>>39508920
I wish that were me. After a certain hour (around 8pm currently thanks to sleep deprivation) my dodging skills drop dramatically so I just call it a day. I hate when it happens near the end of a run.

>>39510761
This can't be real

>>39516986
Just ensure to bomb against Aya and you are safe.

>>39517188
Why can't it? It appears that it's just a single-instance graph across many individuals, which explains the extreme variance in data points.
You lose about 5ms of speed per year after 24, which I've heard expressed as "getting 1% slower". That's why you die at 120, you've run out of movement speed.

>died with bombs three times in Okina's fight and still get to see her finals spell last phase
I'm so close bros I can feel it

which prismriver do you tend to struggle with the most? for me its merlin even though most of that is attributed to her first and last solo phases

>>39520586
The one that starts with the curved laser bullshit. Is that Merlin?

>>39520586
Merlin for first phase, Lyrica second phase, I hate her tight criss cross shit

It's been 2years now I can't still beat PoFV. Once I get to Aya it is a gauntlet until I reach Eiki and get bodied once and once again

>>39520586
I 1CC'd the game on Hard and Normal with most shot types and Lunatic with SakuyaA. I don't remember Normal and Hard well enough to compare them. Merlin's first non on Lunatic is a fucking nigger, especially with SakuyaB because her bomb deals almost no damage so you can't even bomb skip it. The non that comes right after it however is piss easy. Ghost Clifford is annoying. Lunasa's nons are all shitty but I remember Pseudo Stradivarius being easier than it's Hard mode counterpart. I haven't played with Marisa enough on Lunatic. I did an attempt with ReimuB the other day and chose Lyrica right after Live Poltergeist and I remember her non being really easy. I almost capped Bösendorfer Divine Performance but I fucked up

>>39521710
Remember that difficulty is drastically reduced for each defeat, so don't lose any lives on stages 1 to 6 and you can clear the game with one defeat against 7,8, and 9 each (with one to spare sometimes)

I reached Eiki with three lives and still she pegged me, however I managed to beat her using 1 continue and still got ending 2. Does this game even have a bad ending or a 1cc reward?

>>39522765
>Does this game even have a bad ending or a 1cc reward?
Not at all.

>>39522765
PoDD also let you see endings with continues. Did your character get a "cleared" text? Other than that, every unlockable just requires you watch every ending.

>>39522802
But I imagine that, for honesty, one should actually 1cc to fill the chart as intended

>>39520586
I was new enough when I played PCB that I had no idea how to handle criss crosses. Lyrica's spell card killed me so often that after a point I made every effort to avoid fighting her.

>>39521710
I'm a normalshitter and I 1CC Lunatic that game with Aya, just pick her

>>39491738
I think my assessment of MarisaWolf being broken was correct.

What do you enjoy about playing Touhou?

>>39538606
the music
and the girls

>>39538606
The satisfaction after a clear. Pure ecstasy.

>>39538606
The music, the boss fights, and the fact that it doesn't take itself too seriously.

>>39538606
It's a nice way to get into a flow state.

>get completely fucking wasted
>1cc first attempt

>>39538606
The plot. Also I can never hear the music without feeling off about it when I dont hear the accompanying bullets in the background.

>>39549698
That's ironic, my first and only 1CC was also done under the influence of alcohol.

>>39549698
I feel like I play better when I'm tired and half-asleep. Maybe it stops me from overthinking things and freaking out when I die.

>>39550893
It's the opposite for me, I see the bullets but don't manage to react in time to dodge them or bomb.
Sometimes I even become apathetic to them, because in my subconscious the priority shifts to getting some sleep.

>>39538606
You can get something out of doing focused practice for literally 5 minutes, yet you can also choose to do multi-hour grinds if you want. It's very easy to fit shmups into my daily life.

I'm trying to do LNB on MoF, what's the trick to the diagonal blue and cyan rice bullets on stage 4 (pic related, also my best attempt so far)?

>>39552655
Most people run the timer down during the midboss and skip that part altogether.

>>39553154
That's the part before Momiji

>>39553167
Oh yeah, forgot about the one in the first half. I'm not sure how other people do it, but I just stream it in the middle half of the screen. Here's a replay:
https://files.catbox.moe/aobfbl.rpy

>>39538606
Aside from the usual presentation and world? The feeling of gradually progressing and improving over time. Overcoming what was once seen as near-insurmountable, getting in the zone and being shocked at what you can do if you go in a flow state. I've died shortly after doing some cool dodges and coming back from what was supposed to be death, only to run into a stray bullet from shock.
Anticlimatic, but funny, and it makes me want to keep playing instead of rage.

Somehow despite sucking ass I actually more fun and get less mad at these games than I do with ones I'm actually good at. Of course, hitting a wall can be frustrating but taking breaks often helps me make breakthroughs and succeed in the first few if not very first try. Like another anon said, you can squeeze in some practice a day or go for hours and come out feeling satisfied either way. Just jumping right into the action, low downtime, no chores, just pure fun.

>>39549952
>That's ironic, my first and only 1CC was also done under the influence of alcohol.
It's not because that's how you have to play Touhou.

>>39468589
16 and 17 felt fast paced, 18 is a little bit in that area towards stage 6, or it felt that way.

I managed to reach Sakuya before I'm out of continues and use another continue at Remilia in my Hard mode run, I need all the help I can get.

>>39562746
If you already cleared normal, all you have to do is practice.

Why is there such a difficult spike on stage 4 in IN. I get that Marisa's stars are nowhere near as scary as they look but whew. Marisa even has Marisa'd patchouli lasers. I HATE PATCHOULI LASERS!
I have an easier time with Eirin.

>>39562896
The Patchouli laser spell is unironically the easiest one to deal for me, since her final normal mode spell is hard to stream, and the first spell where stars comes left and right and front are an auto bomb for me. And if you hate Patchouli's nons you'll hate the other Stage 4 bosses in the game even more, I seriously think Patchy is one of the easiest Stage 4 bosses out there, but I do agree that her and the other EoSD bosses have a lot of what I consider beginner killers.

>>39562992
I mean, they're all a fucking pain, but Patchouli lasers have caused me a lot of grief when I worked really hard at EoSD.
I guess Patche isn't really that hard herself. I haven't really played that much of most of the games. I've just endlessly grinded EoSD while getting impatient and making no progress.
I've dicked around a bit with IN. I like IN more than EoSD, but I'm comfortable with EoSD.

>>39562896
Maybe it's just the garbage shot types or less practice but I always have a harder time with Reimu than Marisa.

>>39563229
That seems to be the general consensus. I just used Marisa's patchouli lasers as the example, but yes, I don't fare much better against Reimu despite having more practice against her.

>>39563285
>the general consensus
Among insane people, maybe. Never understood how anyone has a bigger problem with "move left and right" than with omnidirectional star spam garbage.

PCB blew me away, the whole ride is fantastic. I found it more fast paced and harder than EotSD but I managed, stage 4 is a nightmare tho, not a fan of Lyrica.

Currently not that confident against Yukari, I think I will give the older games a go and after that beat it for good. Are the older games hard to set up?

oi

>>39573586
>Are the older games hard to set up?
You're in luck; it's easier than ever!
>>39459091

>>39569344
because reimu's cards are faster and more dense

Is there anything special about PoFV on steam? Both beta and regular version, I wonder if there are any differences with regular version of the game.

>>39507732
when it's been a hour and half of it was spent on the first two levels

>>39523066
>I had no idea how to handle criss crosses
How do you handle them?

>>39582648
It mostly comes down to being able read the waves, meaning being able to split the bullets into left and right "columns", focusing your attention on one direction the bullets are coming from and moving through the gaps of the columns so that you only have to dodge the incoming bullets from the other direction. IN has plenty of patterns like this it kind of forces you to get used to them whether you like it or not.

It's fairly simple when the bullets move in a straight line. The real problems arise when the bullets move in an arc like DDC's stage 6 midboss non or the last 3 fairies in LoLK's extra stage. On such patterns it starts being really hard to read them since you also have to take into account the arc of movement, and if they happen to be fast on top of that you're left with little to no time to read and react to the waves. Thankfully you can usually bomb such problems away.

>>39582846
Thanks a lot for the tips Anon, really appreciate.

Anyone has the updated 1cc chart?

>>39585582

>>39585922
Thank you

>>39585922
Where is the spot for easy 1CCs?

>>39586016
lol

>>39585922
The chart makes it easier to keep track of it. In the other thing I kept my progress I didn't make the distinction for different endings in IN, so it's probably not entirely accurate, and I could have sworn I had Hard clears in EoSD and PoFV. I must check if I have my old clear data backed up somewhere.

>>39589150
anon... you know you can use the colors next to the game names to color the squares for the corresponding games instead of just coloring everything red, right?

>>39589338
I just did it quickly. I'll post the updated version with colors if I find that old data.

>>39585922
Where's easymodo? I remember that an updated version a while back finally included it.

>>39590897
It got laughed to oblivion, as it should be.

>>39590951
No it didn't, literally only one anon sperged out about it and was made fun of.

>>39590998
Cope.

>>39591061

>>39590998
Then why haven't I seen the easy modo included chart being posted more than once, by who I assume to be the anon that made it?

>>39591366
I've seen it at least twice and multiple anons asking for an update.

>>39589150
>>39589472
Found them. I played IN more than I remembered, but EoSD and PoFV unfortunately were on point.

>>39592339
much better. While you're here, how come you don't have more Lunatic 1CCs?

>>39592427
I got into the habit of Normal -> Hard -> Extra ever since I finished PCB, only PoFV and LoLK are outliers. I don't remember what motivated me to do that one Lunatic 1cc, but I know it was much much later.

am i based or cringe?

there was a download with the assets of all games ripped
anyone have it? i tried searching everywhere but i can't find it

>>39592983
Don't use crossie lingo, ``kudasai''. Other than that, congrats.

First time reached Volcano today and die immediately twice. What the fuck is that Spellcard? I tried in practice and still dont figure it out. This was my best run though, I can't believe I captured Honest Man in game

>>39593556
This? >>35082200

>>39593953
i think that's it
thanks a lot man!!!

>>39593939
Arguably Mokou's hardest spell card. You have to misdirect the explosions. She follows a pattern: single one, three in a row, several, then repeat. While she is doing three and several, she shots 3-way streams of arrowheads. You don't want to spread the explosions, because it will leave you no room to keep dodging the next arrowheads and other explosions. So you wait she finishes her current wave, go to the leftmost /rightmost of the screen after she is done and before she starts the next one, and repeat. And the rings just make it harder, especially once she loops because right after she launch the single one again, she spawns the most of the rings. Doesn't help most of the bombs slow down you, so once you don't have bombs left and the iframes end, you are likely dead.

>>39352987
that yuyuko one where she puts out an easy field of balls but then a moving buttefly bomb follows you and constantly explodes forcing you make mistakes
fuck that bomb
fuck it in its ass

>>39596270
Yeah, fuck Yuyuko in her tight, fat virgin ass!

>>39596389
i highly doubt yuyuko is a virgin

>>39595841
>Mokou's hardest spell card
I was going to say it was this one, but then I tried it again for the first time in about a year and it was a lot easier than I remember.

>>39597668
That one too, but at least I can try to survive and is easier to bomb. Is there any tricks to Hollow Being Wu?

For those of you who have played it, what do you count as a square in 17.5? Do I need to No Miss?

>>39592983
also this

th1 is hella ez tbqh ngl

finna try th2 now

>>39601878
I always fill a square if I had fun during a play.

>>39592983
Based
>>39601981
Based
>>39593716
Cringe

>>39592983
based
>>39593716
cringe

>>39602380
>>39603344
Totally random and uncoordinated responses.

>>39603351
Yes

>>39603358
Go tell your friend that you're both faggots now, faggot.

>>39603371
lol, anon, that's embarrassing

>>39599094
More misdirect basically. First wave is always in the center. Second and third are aimed. When she is about to do the second one, she chooses a side of the screen depending on your position. She moves and then she shots the aimed. Third is four aimed shots while she is moving to the opposite side of the screen, then restart the process.
You want to misdirect the second one to the leftmost/rightmost (whatever you prefer) and then move quickly to the opposite side before she does. You want to move exactly as she shots because the first wave is starting to spread at that moment, so you get in position before it becomes a mess. You can use the sound effect as a reference. Then misdirect the rest to the other wall (you will need to step to the initial side), and after she is done, move back to the leftmost/rightmost. She does the first one and then just repeat, so you have to repeat too. With that, the only thing you have to care of are the bullets as they start to move, which can give awful angles at times. Just prefer to not bottomhugging when dodging them.

>>39597668
It is easier once you figure out the correct route for it. Volcano is harder just because it gives you no rest.

>>39603402
Hardly

uhm, tips for soew? i just went through the whole game with savestates and i think 1cc is actually pretty doable
>stage 1 and 2 are easy, and all the others aren't particularly difficult if you know your way around
>stage 3 boss has a consistent pattern
>stage 4 boss can be killed quickly by bombing her when she has no orbs, but when she has orbs it's a pain in the ass
>stage 5 is literally non existent since it's just boss with some relatively easy patterns and you can't simply bomb her to death since there's no stage 6

also playing without focus isn't really an issue since you mostly need fast reflexes instead of precise movements.

>>39610877
Mashing the shot key lets you fire faster, but I avoid it as it's a pain in the ass to do. Bomb earlier than you expect to get hit, I've lost too many lives due to getting hit a second before I expect the shot to connect.

>>39602261
I'm getting a little better as the playthroughs go on so i'm able to do No Miss and not ask myself the question for now. Only one i'm missing right now is Marisa. I got it with Murasa by the skin of my teeth. The 5 Star and first impressions looked terrifying but she's pretty alright, even if she's very polarising.
Kutaka with Marisa without dying sounds painful but i'll come back to it once i've done everyone. Don't feel like it right now.

Which is the right way to play 2hu, keyboard or controller?

>>39611807
unironically touch screen

What do I do about Yumeko's swordspam+laser pattern?

>>39611807
Whatever you want. You wanna get the pro experience, get an arcade stick.

>>39611807
Whichever you have the most prior experience with.

>>39611807
doesn't zun use a controller?

>>39611855
You have to stream it following a U shape, but the swords are a bit unpredictable so it still requires good reactions. Bomb her fast phase, don't even think it. imo it's the hardest "spellcard" in the game.

>>39355076
Keep it up anon! I'm trying to get a normal 1cc on th14 as well, any tips?
Should I stop worrying about the PoC now? It gets me killed more than anything else the game throws at me, but I need the resources.

>>39610965
thanks, i just beat it with 3 continues. i really need to avoid hoarding bombs...

>>39355347
If you have the games on steam, the steam screenshot button (I think it's f12, or atleast mine is) also works with the th games. Even if they're patched with thcrap.

Any tips for Utsuho with ReimuB in Normal? I keep losing lives to the non-spells and the first spell card.

>Almost capture Starlight Typhoon for the first time as Reimu solo.
>Can't because shit damage and it timed out.
Pain.

>>39613345
>Should I stop worrying about the PoC now?
Absolutely not! In fact, you should go for it every single time even if you have to waste a bomb on it. Getting as many life pieces as possible is crucial.
Also, I personally find the older stage 4 sister way more doable than the younger one so I'd use a cursed artifact for a 1CC.
>>39613528
>If you have the games on steam
I don't...

>>39613636
>the non-spells
First non is fairly simple, it's just reacting to the angle at which she shoots the lines of bullets and getting out of their way. It doesn't necessarily target you either so many times you will survive by doing literally nothing. You should try reading that angle while the bullets are still spawning though, because they get really fast once they get closer to the bottom.
Second non requires you to first find the gaps between the lines of bullets, and once they start slowing down you can move to a less dense spot to dodge the next waves. You may move a bit higher up in case those lines of bullets start closing in as they move towards the bottom. The bubbles are easy to stream once you move to a position where bullet density isn't too high, after that just rinse and repeat.
Third non is similar to the first but it is completely static with respect to Okuu's position. As a tip, if you stay directly in front of her at the bottom and follow her around, the gap you have to move around will pretty much always be at the same distance from Okuu. So even if she were to move vertically you can also imitate her movement and you will still be completely safe. But if you move a tiny bit upwards you will also be safe anyways so it shouldn't be a problem if you follow her horizontal movement.
And fourth non is almost the exact same as the second but faster and less dense. The bubbles now make it hard to see where the next line of bullets is gonna come from though so if you lose visibility just bomb, otherwise do the exact same you did for the 2nd non.

>first spell card
You can always react to the sound queue and misdirect the suns a bit to one side so you have some more time to stay in the center and get some good damage. Also don't wait till the suns get too close to start getting out of their way, otherwise you will panic and fly straight into one of the smaller bullets.

>>39611928
He does.

>>39614971
that's one of the versus games, it doesn't count

Does a hisoutensoku 1cc really count if you fail the last spell?
Clared it in lunatic with Meiling but I don't feel too good about it.

>>39616110

>>39610877
Bomb generously.
Set up rapid fire because injuring your hand for 1cc isn't worth it.

I like when people use ZUN as an example when he's actually fucking dogshit at his own games.

>>39616110
>>39616806
Full video in case someone wanted it
https://twitter.com/beatmario/status/1266756119843635200

>>39616901
Example of what? The point is there's no "right way" to play the games, both keyboard and gamepad are legit and some people find one or the other better depending on what suits them.

>have no idea how to dodge and just spam x
>completely incapable of 1ccing with any character that doesn't have a strong bomb

>>39608198
Being wrong isn't embarrassing?

>>39621879
Literally the reason why I can't 1CC PCB/IN with Marisa A/Team Scarlet. Also Hard mode MoF feels brutal asf, I can at least clear Hard mode for 6,7, and 8 with one or two continues meanwhile I already lose a continue at stage 3 or 4

>>39617941
>there's no "right way" to play the games
Easymodo chads rise up.

>>39624051
There may not be a right way to play the games but there is certainly a wrong way to play the games, buddy

new thread?