/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>39353098
Any special dialogue when you try to seduce Meira as Reimu in TW?

SMTV was kinda disappointing so EraMegaTen is starting to tempt me

>>39353158
Go for it anon

>>39353158
Takes a while to get into but it's quite good.

How do I reverse the naming order for custom characters in 4X? also damn someone please change the menu to be less tedious to navigate

>>39353130
Meira doesn't even have regular dialogue...

>>39353158
Do it.

>>39356172
Don't listen to this Anon, he's possessed by a demon.

Why are there no male random characters in TW?

>>39356664
Because that would be quite gay.

>>39356664
Because 2hu has mostly girls fir characters.
At least K has males.

>>39353158
It's pretty good give it a try

>>39356664
In all seriousness, it's probably because the game is based around a male MC and you're there for the girls. And in terms of male characters with any depth, the only one that comes to mind is Rinnosuke. You could have the random male villagers as mobs, but there's no incentive to do so. Who is going to write Rinnosuke's gay dialogue or set things up for a more complete female player gameplay? They can be done, but how much would that actually add to the game considering it wouldn't be encountered by the majority of the playerbase.

>>39357622
>improper homoexual behaviour
bit redundant, innit?

>>39357622
And that's why Touhou is such a perfect setting for an era game. You can replicate the whole world without having to weed out characters or damage the lore much. Female players might get shat on, but it's not like there are many of them to begin with. There are only degenerates that like the femenine penis, and no one gives a shit about them anyways.

>>39357622
>>39357235
>>39357141
>>39356705
This means there's no yurishit in TW, right?

>>39358376
Many characters have skills in it, implying they do, but they never engage each other only with you. There is never yuri unless you yourself play as a girl.

>>39358448
They'll sometimes make out during group sex, but I'm not sure if that counts even if it probably still triggers that sort of person either way

>>39357622
it's me, I will write rinnosuke's gay dialogue

>>39358805
Godspeed, Anon.

>>39358376
>no yurishit in TW
Of course not.

>>39359053
Does Yuuka have dialogue if you use a futa potion on her?

>>39359181
Never tried it but I'm aware she has futa x female if you bet your virginity to her.

>>39359181
>>39359281
>Does Yuuka have dialogue if you use a futa potion on her?
Of course not.

>>39359053
>>39359367
Absolutely disgusting. Yuuka is for domming like the filthy bitch in heat she is.

>>39359571
Can you dom her with love? I like strong girl being a sub to weak MC just because she loves him that much.

>>39359571
Then grind those fighting skills and beat her in a match, pussy.
>>39359815
Kinda, you can make her your bottom bitch if you get her to love, she becomes more than happy to submit and let herself get fucked.

>>39359884
What do you think I'm even doing? That bitch will be my cumdump someday.

>>39359815
If you beat her in danmaku you can choose sex as your reward. The scene changes too if she loves you.

In eratohoK, is there some way for warrisoned troops to also help attack an invading army? What use are 10,000 soldiers if all they do is watch the defending army get slaughtered?

>>39360308
>What use are 10,000 soldiers if all they do is watch the defending army get slaughtered?
Have you tried to put those 10k soldiers with 2 officers in a city to defend itself? use armies to attack, not to defend

>>39360308
They lower the invading army's numbers at the end of War Phase. It's useful if your unit gets fucked up by a surprise skill and you need enemy numbers culled to take back the advantage.

What does putting a sex tape into the private collection even do?

>>39361291
I think you can watch them later
imagine torturing a girl by forcing her to watch a video of you raping her friend (e.g. making Eirin watch a video of Kaguya)

>>39363263
If only
Shame K was abandoned

>>39353158
How is it actually?

>>39363499
hope we eventually get the Ibaraki's Arm romance thing translated

>>39363499
>follow his twitter
>he's just cooming all over the place with lewd 2hu Koikatsu creations of his own
K is doomed.

Is there any way to play Eramegaten in a wholesome way?
I tried to activate combat falling but so far nothing.

I heard gote was out in Megaten
But not TW yet?
Why?

>>39364358
Combat falling takes like 10000 loyalty at least. It takes longer if your alignments don't match.

>>39364401
gote?

>>39364425
Yuuma (newhu from 17.5)

>>39364432
I don't know, but even if she is, she would probably be dialogueless for the time being, so it's not like it matters much.

How to get hypnosis in K if I didn't start with it?

>>39364744
Daily event or buy special catalogue at the store and then research hypnosis

>>39363499
What?

You better play as a good guy in every Era game
...or else.

>>39365368
I do play as a good guy. I only steal panties for my achievement autism. It breaks my heart every time I fail a Play With Me quest because as soon as I accept it the questgiver evaporates into thin air like they're making fun of me.

>>39365368
its the girls who force me to evil its not my fault

>>39365494
>Seija fetch quest
>disappears into thin air for weeks
>gets upset even though I found the item
Bitch

>>39365368
i would but sometimes the game literally forces you to be a dick
like meeting satori for the first time in TW

>>39365954
Just deliver it to her house instead, you do know where is it right?

If you ever feel like going on a evil route, rape Kosuzu in timestop and you'll regret everything.

>>39366214
the Kosuzufag who worked on her in TW (as well as whoever translated her) is the most based man on earth and i want to shake his hand
and yeah those timestop rape lines are fucked, suzu is for consensual lovey-dovey sex only

>>39365368
I am a good person to the people I care about, the rest are toys for my amusement.

>>39364258
Which is a shame, game could be expanded a little further with new 2hus and interactions.

>realize you can cheat skills up but not down
>raised my logging skill so high that the cost of cutting trees inverts, restoring stamina/energy and reversing time into the negatives

>>39367647
>yukari generously gaps you out of your boring mundane outside world life to a world you can freely enjoy
>you thank her by breaking reality apart

EraMorioh WHEN.

>>39353098

>>39369701
Proofs?

>>39365494
Stealing panties is my ultimate grief with how the achievements work. There is literally no other reason to do it other than achievement autism and those rewards you can't get otherwise. I start feeling bad when I realize I'm practically scouting every map to see if a girl is carrying a new set of panties I can steal so I can fill that stupid collection I don't care about.

Do the girls clean their orifices? I did too much anal and the she seems to be permanently full of cum

>>39370569
I think every time you go to sleep their cleanliness and panties reset, the same thing happens to you if you are smeared with love juices.

>>39365368
This is why you only do horrible things to the mob characters, they don't matter and have zero personality so it's entirely guilt free.

>>39370776
I mean in K and its clones not TW

>>39370831
There are some assholes 2hus that no one would feel bad about bullying though. For me is the Yorigami sisters and that one ghost girl I forgot the name of that lives in the dojo next to the Myouren Temple. Then there are the dialogueless that fail to have enough personality to warrant guilt. For me it's those two human girls that apparently like each other, I haven't read the source material and I don't know crap about them but according to fan stuff they are supposedly gay for each other?

>>39370970
>according to fan stuff
Never take fan stuff as canon, otherwise you'll also think Wriggle and Miko are boys, Sanae is a dumb slut that fucks shotas, Mokou and Kaguya are in a relationship etc.
They're just friends and one of them may be related to/is Yukari.

Dumb pet peeve but I wish there was different dialogue if you turned out to be youkai in K/TW.
It upsets me that in some endings in K you just die of old age.

>>39372756
Yeah, I think I meant to say that the fan stuff is literally the only exposure I have of them, so they could be gay for each other for all I care. The fact that both of them have high lesbianism and none of them are virgin in the game really helps in that perception though. My point still stand about they not having enough presence for anyone to give a damn about them, besides it's kind of kinky to think about the lesbian pair secretly lusting for you.

Never forget

>>39373139
And yet, still not even the biggest chest around.

>>39373139
Getting married and having kids changed this man forever, he's truly a fellow hagfag now. Now that I think about it, we haven't had true loli characters in a long-ass time.

>>39373480
Being immature is getting charmed by the loli aesthetics, growing up is realizing hags are actually built for what we truly want.

>>39366214
I timestop raed her and made her a single mother.
I don't regret anything.

>>39373472
Nah, she and Nemuno are the cowtit queens of Gensokyo unless ZUN states the opposite, they're the only characters to get actual breasts in ZUNart unless there's ending art that I'm missing.

>>39373858
No I mean, in the games they don't have huge breasts, which is the biggest size, only big ones.

>>39367647
Update.

>>39373480
>what is gote

>>39373773
If you are going to use someone like an onahole they least you can do is use protection, no?

>>39374058
Have you ever used an onahole with a condom on? Shit's nowhere near as good as raw.

>>39374058
I'm sure Kosuzu can figure it out.

>>39366214
I want to rape her more though, I like when girls start crying for their parents/lover when extremely stressed e.g being raped.

>>39373858
Raiko shows off some underboob in her damaged art, but she's not that big I guess.

>>39374472
Pretty sure she also has the big breasts trait. There is also an option to make her like it up the ass, not sure where that came from though.

>>39373978
That's a crime.

Is group sex possible in Reverse? I noticed that there were some actions related to it in the actions list but summoning an additional trainer just replaces the current one instead of adding a second.

>>39374610
She's a drum, so it's assumed she'd like getting spanked

>>39374610
Raiko is a masochistic pig.

>>39374839
Switch back to your original trainer and add new ones as her assistants through a dedicated menu. Some dialogues prevent that though for plot reasons.

>>39374053
>Panties
non-canon

>>39374434
Is there a way to make them swallow? They spit it out every time I try.

>>39375567
Cum in their mouth until they get used to it, if you do it enough you'll eventually unlock the vacuum fellatio command.

>>39375682
>Vacuum fellatio
Goddamn, how deep does this game go? I've been playing for a month now and I still learn new things every day.

>>39375682
I thought that one was unlocked just by getting their mouth technique up enough

>>39375567
Increase their cum love

>>39365368
I'm a good guy anon, I'm a feminist you know?

>>39376922
Fuck off, Rance.

>>39373139
One can dream someone will give her justice in TW

>>39377888
You can edit her yourself

>>39377971
Officially.

>>39377888
it's also criminal that she isn't lactating by default
also dialog when

>>39378194
When you write it

>>39378194
For some reason Doremy does that if you set her breasts to big

>play k
>host character enters the war
>recruit host character
>"the host character got bored and abandoned the war"
>is still in one of my armies until I change officers

Another one
>research ninja town
>can't build ninja towns

Another one
>misc event (can't remember which)
>you have to pay 1000 soldiers/money (can't remember)
>have less than 1000
>click pay
>it works
Any other bug I should know?

>>39378349
>diplomacy - info - relations - no info until you view relations through the other screen (factions list)
>heights measurements are fucked for random shotas, boob size is fucked for tiny characters
>lovers can still revolt (via diplomatic hate)
>some items like pocket watch are not researchable at all in newer NG+ saves and cannot be bought at all
>random slaves characters in the slave market are treated like a part of the roster, they will get random events if one of them has addictions
>backing up from menu in mafia event will cancel it and skip it
>many actions interrupt ongoing actions because they're missing the RECHECKING flag, these actions become unavailable after using them once as well

>>39378349
not K but I've gotten something similar to the last bug in TW
I ran out of love potions while cooking but they still applied to the food anyways (because they were still selected in the cooking menu), it eventually reached the point where I got a negative amount of love potions

>>39378770
Update your game.

>>39378349
Did you report them?

>>39382198
Uh,,, to where?

>>39382500
Read OP

>>39382500
>>39382198
>>39378349
Wtf I thought you were woot (tohoK's maintainer), fuck outta here reee

>>39383954
That's how you reach him, moron

So what's the deal with the ignorant trait in TW, does it change gameplay in any significant way? Will I be able to make the perfect onahole without them even knowing about the birds and the bees?

w-what is she doing?!

>>39387175
She's starting to believe.

>>39387175
Thinking about what to type in the chatbox.

>>39387175
She's taking her clothes off because she is very warm and Gensokyo doesn't have air conditioning

>timestop rape
penor doesn't move, it's a grind
>going on a cute new years date with a pregnant 2hu, no sex just spending time together
biggest nut of my life

>>39389027
>waiting until Love to get intimate
>taking each other's first times
>mutual orgasm on insertion

>>39389027
>>39389075
Having mutual first kiss at the end of a successful date is the most glorious feeling there is.

>>39389027
>>39389075
>>39389140
>Being a youkai that rape every woman so hard that you write a book about it.

>>39389027
Come on anon, you're not so pathetic that you get turned on from basic affection like flirting while enjoying lap pillow from your beloved 2hu,aren't you?

>>39389220
Don't tell me you aren't using the diary in your room to record your sexual exploits, Anon. Seeing how your character can trascend time, that youkai might as well be (You).

>>39389282
The 2hus certainly do, seeing how you can grind lewd marks by getting lap pillows alone.

>>39389299
>using the diary in your room to record your
sexual exploits
No, I dont.
But when I missclicked on diary a few times I was sure that, somewhere, there are anons who are so deep in this that they begin to write a diary.
But I bet you do, you fucking legend.

>>39389431
I use the diary as a business ledger to record my income and expenses.

>>39389431
I actually did, with autistic precision if I might add. it reaches a point where you start getting so much action it's hard to keep track of everything. Nowadays I just use it to write what I'm doing recently so I can keep track of stuff in case I stop playing for a while so I don't forget and can pick up right where I left.

>>39389451
>I use the diary as a business ledger to record my income and expenses.
Why do I feel that you also played free cities at some point?
>>39389505
>it reaches a point where you start getting so much action it's hard to keep track of everything.
Yeah I get this happening for player like that guy who was a day 2951 in a previous thread.

>>39365368
god i love barkley

It's already April of 2022 and K's latest builds are still infected with malware. The older archived versions are safe, at least.

>>39391084
What do you mean

>>39391093
K has had a botnet for the past months

>>39391084
>>39391104
Filtered.

>>39391084
I think the real tragedy is how the animated map for the Myoren temple in TW is so radically different from the default that it actually breaks pathfinding. Living there can be very confusing unless you play in the default ugly map.

>>39391152
Yes, the outgoing connections K was trying to make got filtered by my Firewall, indeed.

>>39391336
Emuera executable never connects to the internet because it simply cannot, but feel free to entertain your delusions.

Started 4 games in EratokoK so far. Lost miserably in all of them. How do you fend off 4 armies at once?

>>39391618
You don't, if you have to fend off 4 armies at once it means that your diplomacy play is shit. Try to get some friends for once.

>>39391618
Literally only assign troops to your borders and keep 1 or 2 massive units for invasions. Coalitions won't cuck you if your borders are super secure and keep proper generals in each one. Fuck diplomacy.

>>39391618
Don't go unga bunga me attack everything in sight and learn diplomacy
Also, stats matter a lot

>>39391618
>How do you fend off 4 armies at once?
By researching diplomatic upgrade, sending money to 3 of the 4 armies leader so they sign a cease fire while the fourth army get stomped.
Later realise that diplomacy is game breakingly overpowered and just cede territory to the rulers you will convince to be diplomaticly annexed anyway.
Finnaly win the game with the power of friendship while reading steel giant battle ion.

>>39365368
I'm a good guy in general but I go out of my way to rape Sumireko everytime she shows up in the Underworld

>>39391618
troops without a commander is useless

>>39392063
Sumireko is not for raping you scum.

>>39392525
She is, given she has the worst dialogue headcanon in the game.

>>39391618
You're weak, train harder

>>39391618
rape the enemy rulers until they can't refuse your diplomatic advances

>>39393296
If rape is the easy way out then why can't I rape myself into success?

How about adding a dedicated casino button for tohoK's Base phase after you unlock it, so you can embezzle and gamble away your entire treasury worth of gold?

>>39393402
Nigga TohoK is abandoned

>If rape is the easy way out
You mean the easy way in?

>>39393372
>doesn't make a custom character who's just a genderbent version of another custom character

>>39393372
>Raping yourself
That's just masturbation when you are not in the mood.

>>39393783
The botnet clearly isn't.

>>39393783
what? it's over then?

>>39394358
Development is stalled (if not dead). Dude isn't even bothering to hide the malware anymore

>>39394463
>Development is stalled (if not dead)
Why?
>Dude isn't even bothering to hide the malware anymore
what?

>>39394489
He's a dipshit who spreads false rumors, ignore him (or them because 99% chance it's a tranny).

>>39394512
do trannies live in your walls or smthn

>>39394575
You can't have her

>>39394575
I would be scared too if Marisa suddenly spouted random crap whenever I tried to get closer to her.

>>39394575
marisa is using forbidden magic... scary...

>>39394575
>>39394641
>the reason Marisa isn't translated in TW is because she uses forbidden magic to make the game crash if we try
truly a powerful witch

Alright, I'm taking a look into the malware pickings. Interesting findings so far (incomplete):

The base scripts seem to be ok (not done analyzing yet) but whoever compiled the emuera-anchor binary added some spicy syscalls that don't make sense for this type of game. The game is directly keeping tabs on the Win32 API and CPU runs, as in, literally everything going through the NT Kernel (it should be using .NET and letting the framework handle low level shit while only working on its own scripts). This could be the culprit behind the virus detection from over 30 different engines (It used to be only 3 false-positive flags around 1 or 2 years ago). Linux users should be fine playing it on Wine (in theory) since Mono will take over .NET's job and the program won't find a valid Kernel to snoop into.

Feedback from translation team anons and maintainers is appreciated (is there a reason for the situation above?)

>>39395005
I'm a codelet that doesn't know what any of that means, but I will call you based for bullying Patchouli.

>>39394575
The same shit happened when I tried to date Kanako/Sanae/Suwako using the lottery pass. Is that a common bug or am I missing files?

>>39395005
I've been programming thirty years.
You just copy pasted some meaningless crud.

>>39395005
I don't program.
Dat's a nice patchy gif.

>>39395100
Are you talking about K? Pretty sure the pic is also K?

>>39395152
Why does this game need direct access to whatever the NT Kernel is doing? Does it have an anticheat or something? Why isn't NET Framework handling the API calls?

>>39395242
Nah, I'm talking about TW regarding the dating pass bug.

>>39395337
Oh I didn't know free date passes existed in this game. It's nice, but sad if it's bugged.

>>39395366
It only works for Moriya shrine character because it's attached to the lottery.

>>39395405
>>39395100
>Kanako still doesn't have dialogue
>you don't get to see the thousand-year-old virgin turn into a blushing mess if you use the date pass on her
jesus christ can some hag lovers give the hags some dialogue already

>>39395434
Kanako isn't even a virgin in TW which is such a missed opportunity let's hope the dialogue that's being worked on just makes them one.

>>39395434
I would be highly disappointed if she got dialogue and it was nothing but le hag meme.

>>39395449
Several dialogues in the game heavily imply non-virginity doesn't correlate with experience with the opposite sex. As for why they just don't make some of them outright virgins if that's the case, I have no idea

>>39395653
>Several dialogues in the game heavily imply non-virginity doesn't correlate with experience with the opposite sex.
I don't think that applies to Kanako sadly.

>>39395701
>Semen exp 70 and not even C exp
Damn she's a bona fide slut.

>>39395701
>>39395740
At least it's defined how it happened, unlike Aya that has 0 sexual experience and is a virgin but somehow has semen exp.

>>39395807
Maybe she bought it secondhand

>>39394575
I'm going to Marisa.

>>39395807
knowing aya she probably let some dude jack off on her in exchange for a newspaper sub
or she gets sexually harassed by her male superiors or something

>>39395857
>She probably let some dude jack off on her in exchange for a newspaper sub
I wish there were interactions like these in the game. Everyone is such a prude forcing you to build a relationship with them that it's easy to forget that some of them personality-wise would probably let you engage in a limited amount of sexual interactions as long as there is some kind of interest in between.

>>39396108
era games in general are kinda weird about this
like, even pure slavetrainers require the girl to be at least somewhat willing if you want to stick it in, despite the fact that she's your slave and realistically you could just rape her from the get go

>>39395005
Alright, fine. None of us ever responded before because we all thought it'd be funny, seeing how fag95 lost its mind. We meme'd about miners, minors, and malware. It proved to be a good filter, too.

Let's see... This whole thing started shortly after webp's implementation. Perhaps the fact that it's jewgle's technology put it on the radar somehow. We laughed at it heartily, and proceeded to ignore it.

Last year, one of our guys decided to sign the executable, thinking it'd help. Back then we thought it's just some microcuck dumbassery, because they hate them unsigned executables. Shortly after, we discovered it only made things worse, causing even more detections. So I reverted that change back for TohoK's repo.

So why does it happen, anyway? According to this upload (http://book-shelf-end.com/up/dwlink.cgi?eraRx2231.7z)) which was a response to the situation, there are several things:

>identifiers, resources, and hard-coded strings contain CJK strings (whatever that means), which seems to get picked up by foreign virus detectors
>there's no limit on the file write function, making it no different from a trojan
>possible webp bullshittery (my guess)
Indeed, you can make a crazy loop that will create and override hundreds of saves at the same time, wearing off your hdd very quickly, doesn't mean you should, no one's done it before. Emuera can delete saves, create saves, create txt dumps, read stuff from CSV/ERB folders, and create .sav folder together with moving all of .sav files in the root folder. It can also create CSV and ERB folders if they weren't detected.

The link above claims that it added folder security permission check.
>check for write and operation permissions, and check for CSV/ERB folders
Which again, didn't help, the scanners are going crazy on that one.

Despite any attempts to remedy any of this, the attempts seem to be ultimately futile, as the exe remains to be unsigned, and it continues to trip the scanners. At best, freshly compiled Anchor, newest Emuera executable, and even Enter's EE Emuera continue getting at least nine detections.
The latest Anchor executable I've compiled has only 8 detections, which might be a good compromise for now.

>tl;dr - jewgle wants you off the era games

>>39395449
Don't worry, Kanako's readme stated in the concept section that she's indeed a 1000 year old virgin in author's mind.
>>39395100
Update
your
game

>>39396124
That stems from tohoA's training system, which required some sort of consent. Earlier games like YM for example let you fuck slaves from the get go, whether they want it or not. Some games still show you the check, but if it's failed it becomes a rapey action.

>>39396496
>fag95
Of fucking course.

>>39391618
join the winning army

>>39396496
Why are fags using webps anyways? what's the upside?

>>39397211
Cuts the size twice if not more. Currently, resource folder is 45mb big, but with png it would've been around 100. They did compress those webps quite a bit and turned them lossless (the idiots), so they turned out to be pretty crusty. Makes editing them frustrating.

>>39397224
>Cuts the size twice if not more
I see... would the issue be solved by just reverting everything back to png? 100mb doesn't sound that bad

>>39396496
Finally. CJK strings are Asian language characters, I'm not sure how webp would mess it up (mojibake maybe?) but I'm glad the botnet is down to 8 pickings now

>>39397281
It was botnet/real in your mind.

>>39396496
Anything that makes fag95 seethe is good on my book

>>39397224
No wonder I gave up on trying to add cocks to 2hus, I thought it was something on my end on how bad it looked.

>>39397224
*Lossy, sorry. Sleep deprivation does things to your brain.

>>39401099
What setup do the devs have that make them really want to save that extra 40 mb even if it makes the images look like shit when made even a little bit bigger.

>>39401153
I'm guessing it's uploader-related. They have a limit for 300gb tops for the entire thing, and so far they're using about 3gb. Not like they're going to hit it any time soon, but downloading new versions already takes time because of how shit their speed is, and if every version was 100mb+ in size that'd annoy a lot of people.

>>39401233
>but downloading new versions already takes time because of how shit their speed is, and if every version was 100mb+ in size that'd annoy a lot of people.
Do era really have such a huge ethiopian fanbase?

>>39401233
Considering the fact that you also need to download a goddamn automatic translator that might as well be 4 times the size of the game, I don't think it matter that much.

>>39404153
They also have a japanese playerbase, you know

>>39404749
Japs have even better internet than us, why do they complain?

>>39394575
>>39394608

>>39404829
They don't. I'm pretty sure the US is the only "developed" nation where internet caps are standard.

>>39405391
>internet caps are standard
This is factually incorrect.

>>39405383
You know the universe wants to keep you single when the girl you try to approach crashes in front of your very eyes.

Well fuck.
Cant even enjoy a bit of sunshine in peace.

>>39405951
That's it, time to drug the yama.

>>39406199
I dunno, the Yama seems pretty based to me.

>>39406338
She cant order her ruler like this.
She may be the law but this is my country.

>>39401099
Don't worry, I have used that excuse too before

>>39406199
>time to drug the yama
is it stickyeiki time

>Aya translation never
I do like chatting with Kosuzu though, i might go for her

>take Reimu out on a date
>literally one point off from a confession ending
i don't get fucking date score man

How do you make big bucks in TW? Selling cinnabar to Eirin is more than enough for most stuff but the furniture shop's disgustingly expensive.

>>39407655
I think growing stuff to sell at a stall somewhere is the most cost effective thing to do. A fully upgraded kitchen garden worth of vegetables can easily net you 60k per harvest in the human village while only investing like 30 minutes per day to water the crops, leaving you free to grind other stuff. Most other methods require you to spend TSP at best or energy at worst to get the money.

>>39407655
Grow some of the good stuff and peddle it in the underworld, if you know what I mean.

>>39407468
Does the girl confess if you hit that number? I figured the game wanted me to confess to get a higher score.

>>39407826
yeah, reaching or surpassing that number leads to either a kiss or a confession

>>39407843
How do you get a high number? I usually get a hundred or so below it, but I'm also using dates solely to grind favorability.

>>39407856
>How do you get a high number
i legit have no fucking clue
i think getting a gift helps, at the very least

>>39407693
>>39407695
Thanks lads, time to do some planting. I'll probably keep dumping excess TSP into foraging for cinnabar though, after getting 1,000 panties I don't find myself spending more than a few hundred per day and those shits are an easy 2.5k a pop.

>>39407877
Yeah, mix it all up. It all gives profits in the end. Also, don't forget about making sake. Using the good waters to make it can give you a nice infusion of money too.

>>39407877
>>39407913
Yeah, I prefer using my TSP to make sake, I'm just too lazy to forage all day when I can just pop it all with sake brewing. Or cutting down trees for timber because so many goddamn 2hus need to get through the cold winter.

>>39407913
What are all the different waters anyway? I know the mountain summit lake gives sacred sake, and the underground hot spring gives strong sake. Everywhere else I know of just gives normal sake, although I forgot to try the moon's water during my stay there.

>>39407937
A couple places give special water that turns into special sake, but everywhere else should give standard water. Do they even have names?

>>39407937
>>39407948
Any water that comes from a well gives normal sake, but it passes first through an "unrefined" stage, making the preparation longer. Water coming from the Misty Lake gives normal sake, but it skips the "unrefined" period, basically making it faster. The waters you mention give each that special sake, but I honestly never made them, so I'm not sure of the characteristics. I think things like the Sanzu River and the Moon are still unimplemented sake spots.

>>39407468
>>39407826
>>39407843
>>39407856
>>39407868
I recall reading here that date score is linked to date exp, meaning it get easier and easier to get better score on following date.
I open a date by alterning holding hands and skinship during travelling time.
Once on site eat together, buy gift, visit public bath, get lap pilliow, give lap pillow, headpat and forehead kiss, skinship also eat sweets on human village.
Repeat until you get "it's time to go home" then end date.
(You) can use a drug on yourself and your fair maiden to extend the duration of the date.
Got all my dating tips from pic related by the way.

>>39407979
Underworld hotsprings gives you strong sake which sells for a lot and is somewhat fast to make, I don't need to tell you which 2hu's will prefer the stuff that you can run your car with. Mountain summit makes sacred sake which I believe is similar to normal sake in price and the gods like it. I don't think there's a single 2hu that dislikes normal sake other than maybe Suika and Yuugi, so it's a good idea to have a number on hand for bridging gaps between skinship and conversation spam.

>>39408249
Looking at the gains that go towards Intimacy, skinship has about the same Favor output as most of the other affectionate commands on top of being spammable and having a low time cost. Head pat, embrace, and get lap pillow are still worth doing for the reliability gains that skinship only gets on critical rolls.

Romancing Kaguya in EraTW feels bittersweet. I think that the worse thing you can to do to her is to love her.

I've only ever played EraTohoK to feed my rance autism, but after 3 years, I'm a bit bored of it.
I think I'll give TW a try, how much unique dialogue do the girls have compared to K? Seija had so much more content than any other girl in the rance game, it was ridiculous(though, I like her, so I didn't mind.), just wondering if TW is more balanced with content or if some girls get way more like in K.

>>39408614
its the same as K. some characters have plenty and others have next to none and some others have none at all

>>39408620
I see. In that case, I hope my girl is one of the lucky ones.
Now, I just gotta find a strat to let me fondle Youmu's youmus quick...

>>39408646
Youmu has some text but has been abandoned for years. Yuyuko has ZERO.

>>39408614
Some girls do get way more dialogue, problem is lack of translation for said girls. Hattate, Alice, and Shikieiki have what feels like a god damn novels length of dialogue but unless you can read Japanese or have the patience to sit through it with translation software, you're out of luck. Not to say that there is isn't plenty of dialogue for other characters, there's still plenty to be had. Nue and Seija are pretty cute in TW.

>>39408651
It's not fair bros.... I just want a cute ghost gf...
Oh well, maybe Marisa has some, since she's more popular.

>>39408674
shes untranslated

>>39408687

>>39408674
>maybe Marisa has some
untranslated now but coming in next version supposedly

>>39408687
>>39408694
Soon

Should I just play k for my doujin like free sex fantasies?
Tw touhous are less slutty on default. Unless I'm, cheating hard enough.

>>39408821
K lets you do more doujin-tier shit, yeah

What touhous have the most translated dialogue in TW?

>>39409147
Not sure who out of all the translated characters has the most dialogue
might be Kaguya, she has a lot (including special lines for being pink wind'd)

>>39409216
Wasn't Alice the one with the war an peace levels of written text?

>>39409249
Only in reverse.

did eratohoJ actually exist?
the only references to it I've seen are this image and Parsee's summary in Reverse
judging by those it seems to have been a dating sim a la TW

>>39409216
It feels like Yuuka is a strong contender given the amount of variables.
Now for the characters that has least, should either be Suika or Nitori.
Maybe Tewi?

>>39408548
Kaguya is a whore though

So what's going on here? Am I being hacked?

>>39409655
Fujiwara hands typed this.

>>39409695
No that's just portraits not loading properly
Relaunch and
Lrn2read

>>39409470
It probably did and now lost to time

>>39409695
malware inserted

>>39409695
Anon your RAM has been hacked

how do I fix this?

>>39408670
I'm actually surprised how a bit of text can make all the difference in the world. Even if your girl is untranslated/dialogueless it's still worth it to try, who knows you might end up falling for one of them. This is coming from someone that went Myouren Temple for Byakuren and stayed for Nue.

>>39410697
Worth it to try one of the more developed ones* Not sure how I missed all of that.

>>39410386
Why is your screen so small

>>39407655
Go to Muenzuka and farm cinnabar, ryuukotu and demon's claws. Easy 200 - 300k per trip.

>>39409695
I'm in.

So how's the best way to grind relationship? Talking and teaing everyone takes fucking forever.

>>39414640
Talk to them, give them tea, help them with work, train with them.

>>39414640
Walking slowly is preferred here. EraTW is a renai type of game.

>>39414703
Does music is a consistent way too or that's just for small bonuses?

>>39414710
Yeah it seems so. At first grinding one or two girls is nice and comfy, but when you see how many there are it seems daunting, specially since you can only do so many at a time before running out of day time or energy.

>>39414778
Music is surprisingly good for gaining intimacy, but you need really high ranks to get that way and it's not great for favorability/reliability unless the character is a musician themselves.

>>39409249
I spent a bit of time on alice route using the translating tool, and so far she indeed have lot of variation in her lines.
For example when you restrain her it switch her line into roleplaying rape.
If you push her down in shinki's room she protest.
If you push her down with marisa she get excited.
If you sneak on her while she is asleep, her doll come to life and you can interact with them once per day.
She get jealous of shinki and yumeko breast size during sex.
No doubt there is a tons more.

>>39416209
Talking about Alice, there is an option in update to "customize traits according to actions". Is that the good old "traits change when yearning/love" or can I actually choose what to make of her? Seems too good to be true if you can scratch any kink with her.

>>39414640
Love potion and items for me. Im not sure if poison body bug still exist or not. Im seen that tactic on some chinese forums where they just repeat the same action 8000 times for the last favourability achievement.

>>39414640
it's a bit of a cheese but for me it's get them drunk till you can lead them around and then go on a date with them. Once on a date you can spam skinship and get them a nice gift

>>39411271
Muenzuka's pretty good but bone scraps and wandering souls dilute the pool a lot in my experience. If you go to the bamboo forest edge during winter you'll find virtually nothing but cinnabar since everything else is out of season.

>>39417030
If you are into mixing, Bone scraps + Manure make fertilizer, which speeds crop growth. Could be another way to speed up profits.

Anyone manage to somehow get eramegaten working on android? Using some emulator like emuera or the android port? I keep trying but it keeps me locked on this loading screen whenever I try to start it up.

I've never seen a text-based game be this finicky before.

>>39416359
>Is that the good old "traits change when yearning/love"
Probably, since when I got her to love she lost defiant and gained docile, but later when I raped her later she regained defiant and lost a few level of intimacy and obedience.

Is the Gitgud down for anyone else?

>>39417602
Everything's fine to me.

>>39417437
How do people even play an era game with phones? sounds like hell

>>39418067
It probably isn't. I doubt I can play it using eramaker, and emuera is a source port or something that supports clicking. Mobile version lets you type if you want, click with touchscreen, and probably more QoL features.

I dunno, I can't get it to work with eramegaten and haven't been interested in the the other era games yet.

Have you guys tried fishing Hina dolls and selling them in the Village? (especially during Hinamatsuri/Girls' Festival). You'll get paid a pretty penny.

>>39418257
I haven't really tried fishing at all, but I've heard Urumi is a great buddy for that because she spends all day next to the sanzu. Also, a reminder that you'll do better in most activities if you bring along a girl with the appropriate skill. Foraging "dates" can be very productive.

>>39416209
>if you push her down in Shinki's room
I wonder if she also has special dialogue for Shinki walking in on you during sex (like Suwako has with Sanae walking in) or special dialogue for an oyakodon threeway with her and Shinki

>Headpat Meiling one too many times
>She hates my guts and doesn't want to talk to me
Sick. Anyway to fix this?

>>39419867
either give her some cakes or reload
shoulda paid attention to her Hostility, anon

>>39419867
>>39419877
Even if they are already in that kind of relationship with you, depending of the girl it still can make them mad regardless, so be careful.

>>39417437
Try downloading WINE for Android and running the Windows .exe through it. Make sure you have the Mono package as well (wine-mono or whatever it's called for Android).

>>39418376
>I wonder if she also has special dialogue for Shinki walking in on you during sex
Pic related.
Which also mean she must have a variation for when shinki and yumeko doesn't join.

>>39420153
I'm imagining Anon is balls deep in Alice, kissing and caressing and all that junk when Shinki walks in and, from the way Alice says "I'll let you do it together," Anon has shifted full attention to the newcomer. She's completely and totally cast aside. I bet she's into too, the harlot

>setsubun
>option to throw beans at suika
>instant level 3 hate mark

I don't know what I expected

>>39420310
>I don't know what I expected
even weirder considering that she canonically doesn't mind setsubun

>>39420153
I would love to see her reaction if even more girls showed up to join and they all have a bigger chest than her.

>finally set up Sugoi
>Eiki's lines in TW when she's wearing the Hecatia outfit
my fucking sides holy shit

>>39417030
If you hit 99 of a certain ingredient it stops coming up during forraging. Just get 99 of all the other shit and you will eventually start finding only those three ingredients.

Except manure. For some reason you still keep finding manure even if you have 99 of it. Turning on forrage rerolls in options is sort of a workaround.

>>39420360
Eiki was always endearing in her own right, she has pretty good dialogues. People just judge her too harshly because she's a killjoy, but she's quite nice if you have patience.

>>39420410
>People just judge her too harshly because she's a killjoy, but she's quite nice if you have patience.
she seems pretty canon compliant, like, Eiki gets memed as a preachy killjoy but in canon she's only like that because she doesn't want people to go to hell

>>39420360
>>39420410
>Eiki's lines in TW when she's wearing the Hecatia outfit
Same as when you bring her a letter from hecatia and she is like "Damn, hope it's not another uniform change".
She even write in her diary about it.
>>39420470
Pic very related.
>she's only like that because she doesn't want people to go to hell
I think she says as much in her TW lines too.

>>39420498
>She even write in her diary about it.
Where is Eiki's diary, btw? It doesn't give me the option to read it in her room

>>39420498
If the game wasn't so overly pornographic to the point you would be missing practically 80% of the content by not engaging in it, I feel like I would legit wanna be friends with her and stop being such a degenerate. Her line about there being no sinless beings will always stay with me.

>>39420514
In her room.
You can time stop to read it alone or get close to her and read it together.
She has some line for that too.
>>39420524
>Her line about there being no sinless beings will always stay with me.
For me it's her reactions when her mirror dont work on (you).
Also when you grope her and force (you) to hear her lectures for hours in game to the point where you can see your stamina and energy decrease.

>>39420572
>You can time stop to read it alone or get close to her and read it together.
ah, does she have to be in her room for me to read her diary? that's weird, considering how all the other girls don't have that restriction

>>39420498
Do diaries have information? I tried to read a couple of diaries once, I didn't find anything so I assumed maybe only Alice had an author autistic enough to remember diaries.

>>39420572
>when her mirror dont work on (you)
That's the moment I'm refering, even though she cannot see your sins she still reminds you that there is no such thing as a sinless being and that you should keep that in mind and do good deeds to redeem yourself. That moment alone almost made me doubt my intentions with the game.

>>39420596
they're just there for flavor, only a few characters have them so far (only TL'd one I know of is Kosuzu)

>>39420586
>ah, does she have to be in her room for me to read her diary?
Nope you can read it just fine if she isnt there.
Time stop is when she is inside so "diary" doenst appear in option.
>>39420596
>Do diaries have information?
Probably not since it require a strong autism from the author to include diary entry.
I'm not even sure Alice have any unlike Hatate and eiki which are, if I recall correctly, written by the same anon.
>>39420603
>That moment alone almost made me doubt my intentions with the game.
Why? Are you not a hopelless moralfag like me, for whom even the though of abusing my power wouldnt even cross my mind?

>>39420697
>Nope you can read it just fine if she isnt there.
that's weird, because my game is up to date and I don't get the diary option at all, regardless of if she's in the room or out of it
I can check the diary in Komachi's room, even if it's blank, but it doesn't work at all in EIki's room (even if I punch in the command number)

>>39420711
Does it appear in time stop mode?

what characters even have stuff written in their diary? like 9/10 times it's empty

>>39420755
I know from THAT screenshot that Kosuzu does

>>39420697
I'm a true degenerate that came to the game fully knowing I would end up being kinky as fuck, but moments like these really give me pause and make me hesitate. Maybe I'm truly a closeted moralfag after all.

>>39420749
nope, I get no option to check it in both timestop and normal time
>>39420755
Kosuzu's the only translated one I've seen so far, it's pretty good but I wish there was more of it (she has unique entries for getting cucked by Akyuu, but no entry for getting pregnant? cmon)

>>39420755
Sanae was half-assed some lines for her diary, then the guy doing her lines got swallowed by the Warp.

>>39420711
Doesn't the tutorial mention that you need a certain level of knowledge to decipher a certain character's diary? That might be it.

>>39420785
Need to be higher, actually.

>>39420785
>Doesn't the tutorial mention that you need a certain level of knowledge to decipher a certain character's diary? That might be it.
huh, maybe
also
>give eiki some tea
>get long philosophical lecture about the meaning of tears in response
good trade

>>39420792
You gave the local Yama tea to help her relax. What did you think was going to happen?

Picture: You on the right.

>>39420819
i lost 100 ENE but I got a nice bit of extra favorability and reliability out of it, so it was worth it honestly

>>39420616
Seija has translated (OC written actually) diary.
Alice doesn't have diary because it's a relatively new feature.

>>39420697
>Hatate and eiki which are, if I recall correctly, written by the same anon
Wrong.

>>39420788
>Need to be higher, actually.
and yeah, that was it
I tested it by cheating my knowledge to be 5 (since Shiki has 4 knowledge) and I can suddenly read it

>>39420819
Me on the left.

>>39420768
>Maybe I'm truly a closeted moralfag after all.
Heh, amazing of a few lines of a porn game can make people feel guilt.
Like reisen crying when she get a hate mark instead of being mad at (you) or kosuzu time stop rape line being very guilt tripping.
But yeah some anons in earlier thread also confirmed that they were using TSP fro everything but raping.
It was hilarious.
>>39420792
You better brace yourself because when you give her tea she does this at least once per day.
>>39420839
My mistake then.
>>39420846
Kek

>>39420819
Me on the left, holding a cake-thing in the corner while someone is approaching me with a bundle of arrows or capped scrolls.

>>39420874
>But yeah some anons in earlier thread also confirmed that they were using TSP fro everything but raping.

The novelty of timestop rape wears off pretty quick and its main functional use is grinding up sex technique without rapidly exhausting yourself or your partner, most other uses of TSP are just more practical

>>39420310
Is there any point to this event other than getting instant hate marks at everyone you can throw beans at?

>>39420846
>I tested it by cheating my knowledge to be 5 (since Shiki has 4 knowledge) and I can suddenly read it
also is there any way to help Eiki with work? it's obvious why I can't help her with the trials themselves but the paperwork she fills out seems like it'd be fine

>>39420931
You need knowledge to help her with work as well that or just a better relationship I can't remember.

>>39420910
>Is there any point to this event other than getting instant hate marks at everyone you can throw beans at?
Yes, easy way to get pain marks.
Source: My first TW run a few month ago where I threw as many beans as possible on my lover remilia to see what would happen

>>39420874
>Heh, amazing of a few lines of a porn game can make people feel guilt.
Better to fall for the illusion instead of realizing you are becoming numb psychopath style. It's a comforting thought, actually.

>>39420785
WHY THE FUCK MY CHARISMA VALUE ARE DUMPING DOWN, FUCK YOU AYA

>>39421091
>FUCK YOU AYA
You now know what to do, godspeed.

>>39420962
Do pain marks even do anything? Tooltip says they are mostly unimplemented. Can only wonder what they intend to do with it.

man, she even has to do a trial with this thing on

>>39421668
>eiki proceeds with the trail in the most "orderly fashion"
lol
lmao

>>39421668
She can always beat the fuckers with her staff if they dare laugh at her.

>>39421668
Try cleaning up with her to see her line in that outfit.

>>39420085
Holy shit a solution. Have you gotten it to work?

>>39421911
It runs fine on GNU Linux (Wine + Wine-mono) but I haven't tried it on any mobile devices. I'm assuming it would work with Android's version of Wine + Mono as well.

>pregnancy prayer while on a date with Eiki
>she has dialogue afterwards where she reveals she's uncomfortable with the idea of having kids because there's the chance she'll have to send them to hell when they die
jesus

>>39422867
Understandable. I know that some doctors don't like to perform surgery upon friends or family.

>>39423014
Yeah, I totally get it, it's just a pretty bleak thing to think about

>>39421583
Makes them submit faster presumably

How do I marry someone in EraTohoK?

>Even with a blindfold you can win
uhuh sure

had I known about this bitch just completely tanking my fucking rolls with this shit I would've used my Epitaph

>>39407655
live at moriya and let the frog poop in your garden

>>39424022
Get 100k

>>39424691
Thanks

>>39424993
Married Kogasa, tried to have sex with her and she pissed herself and left

>>39424575
The frog? What? Is that just a random event?

>>39424069
Does she really debuff you that bad? You actually rolled better than her in pic if it wasn't for the debuff, how are you supposed to win in that case?

>>39425908
I think anon might be talking about how Suwako is free fertilizer.

>>39426338
Oh

Speaking of Suwako it's funny how the game portrays her as a terrifically horrifying motherfucker that the PC seems to think is some sort of eldritch horror and not just another girl in a silly hat

Where is a good place to date a Youkai? I'm assuming the human village doesn't have nice gifts that they might like.

>>39427647
Try the underworld

>>39427647
Youkai mountain foot and underworld have good gift for those filthy beast.

>>39427647
Usually the best gift for someone is at their home's souvenir shop.

>>39419867
keep an eye on the ! count, overly aggressive actions when their mood is low raises it. Once it's at !!!!! they'll get mad and maybe even get a hate mark

>>39426909
THE HAT IS ALWAYS WATCHING YOU

>>39427790
At level 3 hate they'll get ! ! ! ! ! at the sight of you and it becomes pretty much impossible to speak to them without pissing them off, at which point the relationship is pretty much unsalvageable without the cheat menu

Can't you make a garden in the human village? I bought everything needed and upgraded the pool but I can't find any place to make the garden.

>>39428260
It's in the flower shop

>>39428378
Thanks anon.

>>39427893
You have to collect 10 of the girl's panties and offer them to Opantsu-sama for the removal of 1 Hate Mark. It can be a drag if you haven't been doing panty raids.

>>39427893
Do what this anon >>39428908 said to do and at 1 Hate mark give them a cake

After that, you should pray (i think) the old hate marks away. Otherwise they'll get mad at you faster

>>39427893
cheating is gay, working towards a goal is what makes this game so immersive

>>39429872
It really makes a difference when you play normally vs cheating. Besides, this game doesn't seem to respond too well to cheating. Maybe it's my impression but things seem to work smoother when they are done gradually vs cheating to high numbers right away.

>>39422420
Incredibly based. Thank you. I tried getting wine to run on my android to no avail. Didnt know about this mono thing. Will try it out.

>getting close to exhaustion while fucking reimu, 994 stamina remaining
>go for one last creampie before stopping
>get pic related and collapse
What the fuck did just happen? Was that because I was at 0 vigor?

>>39433120
No you just die around 500 stamina.

>>39433120
Correct. Once you run out of energy then stamina is used, but as I recall there is a penalty multiplier.

>>39433146
Yeah I know, but I wasn't expecting such a huge drain from a single action.

>>39433149
It's even weirder cause I still had 1.4k energy.

>>39433163
It was most likely your 0 vigor. I think it uses the same rule as energy >>39433149 mentions.

>>39433182
That makes sense, thanks.

>>39433163
When in doubt, drink a GinGinZ.

>>39433120
So?

I thought Alice had no friends...

Someone make a new one.

>>39426909
OH GOD
THE WINDOW
THE WINDOW

>>39427893
Give them some time, they'll calm down eventually. Then you can start salvaging your relationship. The most fun I've had when Sakuya got lv3 Hate Mark and I worked really hard towards making her fall in love despite the massive penalties.

>>39427893
>>39428908
if it wasn't for TW being a cushy dating sim with no actual game over conditions, living in the SDM with a hate mark 3 Sakuya who knows about your power would be suicidal.
Enter a new room? Have fun dodging knives.
Walk down the hallway? Inexplicably trip and fall over.
Collect panties so you can pray a mark away? She immediately knows and puts you in a coma for another week.
That girl can hold a grudge.

>>39433649
To be fair, dealing with her wouldn't probably be that hard, considering you have her same power. Bu yeah, you would probably have to watch your back all the time.

>>39433649
I wonder how the combat skill translates to combat outside of danmaku. With EX rank and Epitaph, would she really pose much of a threat?

>>39433772
You already know how that shit ends, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oURw11sSjp4&ab_channel=ultimaT

>>39426909
>>39427813
>>39433531
I know that you get cursed for timestop raping her but is there any other crazy eldritch bullshit that happens?

>>39433772
Maybe it's an oversight in the game, but seeing how you can't apply your combat skill outside of danmaku I don't think there is much correlation. But if it does, you would technically be unstoppable considering very few characters have EX combat.

Chimata dialogue when
need cute dorky goddess wife

>>39433772
>>39434136
You can dodge basic knife attacks, but if she goes all out it'll be basically like this >>39433907

>>39434174
Who? Is that some v-tumor trash you're speaking of? Those have no place in this game.

>>39434243
>Chimata
>Who? Is that some v-tumor trash you're speaking of? Those have no place in this game.
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Chimata_Tenkyuu

>>39434289
Ah, I see, one of those fanfic characters. I mean, you can see it by how deviantart-esque their designs are and how badly they fit in the lore, as well as not meshing with the rest of the cast. Why would we ever want something like that?

>>39434339
cope

>>39434359
Look at you, being so proud of being able to jump on a bandwagon, like flies attracted to dung. Must be nice being a mindless consumer, a lemming, only able to connect with other same worthless people because he likes the newest shiniest thing. So much for human dignity. Once the senile drunkard shits out another pack of his stale designs with a fresher coat of paint, I bet you'll jump on it as well, because that's in your nature. Acting on impulse without thinking, that is.

>>39433772
Combat skill is Danmaku skill.

Outside of it you're still just a human. Surprise attacks like what Sakuya pulls will fuck you. Epitaph even should be thought of as more of a spell card that you craft than a skill However it or King Crimson at least does brazenly break the rule of not being able to repeat attacks because you can loop that shit

>>39434377
>mindless consumer
sick UM reference

>>39434387
That rule doesn't stop reimu or marisa spamming the same bomb.

>>39434401
they're protagonists, they get to break the rules

>>39434387
it's implied in some of the girl's dialogue the combat skill does represent actual non danmaku strength in some way but i doubt it's something all the writers agree on

>>39434423
I think you need at least a B in combat to make Yuugi spill her drink on the first encounter, though she doesn't change dialogue if you're stronger than her

If you have at least S in combat Yuuka will change one of her lines to note that you're actually not weak, and at least as strong as she is

>>39434401
Bombs are of limited quantity so I believe you can argue that they can be reasoned as different attacks and there is a Touhou game that even makes each bomb different from one another

Epitaph however is just weird in the spell card rules but I guess it works because it's not really an ATTACK,it is not there to do damage. King Crimson is where shit is unexplainable because that is an undeniable attack.