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jesus christ man, it's just a Key visual novel...

Oh wow.

>>3927771
maybe you should've finished reading it

I lol'd.

>>3927771
i hope you're lying, bro if not wow

>>3927771
This THIS THIS. I was depressed for at least an year after Clannad, and my eyes still get watery when I think about Nagisa. Fucking Key, that was just too much.

Key is the best

>>3927771
>>3927787
What a bunch of faggots.

It is because of people like you that KEY made the shitty magical disney end.

I was depressed for a week yet my life went on. They are only cartoons after all.

i feel like a complete prick, i already watched the anime so i skipped alot of the visual novel, and marathoned after story. I didn't feel anything, though i did get a little teary when nagisa died, and I'm a chick...

am I a monster?

>>3927812
Die Monster! You dont belong in this world!

I was depressed for 2-3 weeks after finishing all ends in Saya no Uta.

>>3927812
>chick

well that explain alot of things.it is because of you that we human ate chickens.chicken dont have feelings.

dango. dango. dango. dango. dango daikazoku.

Absolutely no offense OP, but you really deserve the therapy if what you said is true.

>>3927802
>disney end

Are you the same guy who keeps on using terms like "disney" "nekofag" and "2hu"? Get the fuck out of /jp/ already.

I'm too busy fapping to Ushio rape doujinshis to get depressed over CLANNAD's story. Fapfapfap delicious loli.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u68Qw-NahOY

Be depressed some more LOLZ.

>>3927819
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofRlbwJ6tlM

>>3927833
Obviously not me.
I am using it in a correct context and not as a real deal vs disney troll.
I can always replace it with fairy tale but I find it easier to just type disney.

>>3927784
>maybe you should've finished reading it

The "magical good end" was just a nice short dream that Tomoya had before he killed himself.

Ushio is actually Sunahara's daughter.


NOTE: The above sentence contains spoilers.

>>3927839
The day Disney manages to make something half as moving as Clannad, give me a call.

>>3927847
The Lion King would like to have a word with you.

>>3927847
I actually find Wall-E more moving than Clannad but of course that is only my own opinion and not fact.

>>3927855
Cool story disney retard. Now killyourself you cancerous infection

>>3927855
>>3927847
bambi niggers

>>3927771
Stay the hell away from the classic romanticist author, bro.

After Story > Fuko > Kotomi > Kyou > Nagisa > Tomoyo > other routes.

Uh it made me cry some but mmmmmmaybe you people have problems that are independent of a sappy visual novel.

>>3927861
Bambi? Isn't actually Bambi real deal? His father dies. Wait what.

wow OP wtf o.O you need help dude

>>3927878
I think he was trying to say that bambi was the saddest movie.

clannad is just unrealistic uguu shit

>>3927878
Bambi is Real Deal Disney.

Bambi is more Real Deal than Japan can ever hope to be.

>>3927869
OP seems to be suffering from Werther's effect.

The cure? It's just fiction, get over it.

>>3927847
Up.

>>3927901

>BAMBI

TANGO SUCKA

>>3927861
Sure Bambi is great and all but Wall-E is just on another level.

Polluted deserted earth.
Broken robot.
No dialogue.

I never thought a movie with this kind of premise can be this touching.

>>3927937
Planetarian is better.

>>3927939
You only say that because it's made in Japan.

>>3927939
I've been thinking about playing Planetarian, will it really make me depressed for a week afterward or does that only happen to people who have clinical depression to begin with like I suspect

>>3927952

>>3927802 here.
Planetarian make Clannad look like a happy comedy.
Gentle Jena is now playing in your head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na3C7NknaQ4

>>3927949
Not him, but this is actually true in my case. I hate Japan, but the only entertainment I enjoy nowadays comes from there. I can't watch 3D shows or even /co/ related stuff anymore.

>>3927952
Do it. It won't take more than a few hours, and it's pretty good.

>>3927952
Planetarian isn't very depressing, just semi-sad. But still extremely good, you should read it.

After I read Clannad, for more than a week I woke up teary eyed every morning. Usually I didn't even remember what I had been dreaming but I knew it was something Clannad related since I had been crying and was still feeling sad after waking up.

But being depressed for more than a year from reading a VN is something else....

Is Planetarian really that sad of an ending? I haven't played it, but I read that he still has that memory card or whatever.

>>3927962
>>3927970
>>3927981
Okay

>>3927981
>>3927771
>>3927803

I don't get this. Clannad is not even a depressing a games? Everything was fixed after Tomoya gathered all the LIGHTS so why is it still depressing. It didn't leave a deep impression for you after you finished the game unlike Cross Channel and Planetarian.

Planetarian was different and Yumemi died saving Junker-san and Junker-san will probably join her as well. It is like having a BAD END as the canon route.

If Clannad had ended with Tomoya waking up like Taichi toward the end I would have understood the depressed feelings.

Any explanations for this?

>>3927991
He dies soon after. So yeah.

>>3928002
The true end was so shit and disney that I ignored it and was depressed anyway. I was feeling pretty much like >>3927842

OP here, maybe I should explain.

The reason it impacted me so much is because I could relate to it heavily. For one, my mom died when I was a kid and my dad was in the same exact situation as Tomoya's dad except he also had another daughter to raise.

This daughter, my sister, also passed away when I was in high school, but I got over it because I was just an egocentric faggot teenager back then. When I read After Story it came back and hit me like a bus when Nagisa died, then it went in reverse and ran me over again when I got to the part about Tomoya's dad - this is when I started vomiting. Ushio dying at the end pretty much sealed the deal. I was already pretty depressed after reading Kotomi's ending because it sort of reminded me of my mom.

So yeah, I already had issues to begin with. I don't imagine any of you could empathize on my level. Regardless, it ruined my life.

>>3928032

>>3928032
Didn't you read the real end?

>>3928032
Wow man, that's pretty messed up. Hope you can get over this soon.

Someone recommend this chap a good, upbeat VN that'll raise his spirits

>>3928032
Yeah... that would probably do it.

I guess you just read the wrong VN. I suppose it had to happen to someone statistically.

>>3928046
No, I heard it was a shitty magical alternate reality they slapped on for a good ending and didn't bother. Should I?

>>3928032
Please read Ever17 if you haven't.

I guarantee you will feel happy after finishing it. You have my sympathy bro.

>>3928065

No, it's the canon ending. The bad ending is the alternate reality.

It's definitely worth it. Some hate it because it's too happy, but they are usually homosexuals.

>>3928065
>a shitty magical alternate reality they slapped on for a good ending
You've been trolled, bro. The real ending is the whole point of After Story. What the hell do you think you've been collecting all those damn lights for?

>>3928070
I can see the sun
you can see the moon
aaah

>>3928084
>>3928087
Eh, I was already past the point of return. I doubt any good ending could've changed anything.

I would go back and read it but I deleted the game a long time ago when I was forced to sell my PC. There's no way in hell I'm going through that story all over again to see it.

>>3928032

Oh wow, you sure are retarded. Getting depressed just because you read that True ending was some shitty magical alternate reality in an Anonymous board? You deserved all that shit, bro.

>>3927892
TAL~KING ANIMALS ARE NOT REAL DEAL ===> LEARN2RD ANIKI

>>3928032
Holy shit.

And here I thought my life was depressing.

>>3928124

Enjoy

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmj9EFOmXCI

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpxN8pvlDo&feature=related

Credits (must watch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYqHyc4uJrM

>>3928126
Uh, that's not why I was depressed.

Reading a good ending wouldn't have changed anything, the damage was already done. I wouldn't have even been able to get myself to read it in the state I was in.

Anyways, I'm done arguing. I'm already getting unstable again from remembering it and I don't want to go through that shit again.

>>3928146
Why are you faggot even explaining yourself? Who fucking cares what the fags from 4chan think? Key is quality. Period. Japan agreed. One who doesn't agree is a troll by definition.

>>3928146

Kill yourself you emo faggot

I was in a depressed mood for maybe 2-3 months after reading it and it changed my perspective on life, and I still get teary-eyed when I listen to the OST.

Anyone who compares Clannad to Disney crap needs a lobotomy. It's on a completely differently level. Air and Kanon were comparable to Disney, not Clannad.

>>3928154
Uh oh, /b/ is leaking.

Is school out for winter break already?

>>3928032
sorry to hear that, bro.

take it easy ok?

>>3928032

Clannad is my favourite VN and as much as I love it, it never effected me all that much. I'm kind of jealous of people who can be so engrossed in fiction that it can effect their mood and even look on life.

Clannad is my favourite VN and as much as I love it, it never effected me all that much. I'm kind of jealous of people who can be so engrossed in fiction that it can effect their mood for weeks and even change their look on life.

>>3928225
Because you are a bad person, well or na autistic little fuck

>>3928309
What? I don't mean it didn't effect me at all, don't get me wrong, I cried buckets. It just didn't make me depressed for weeks, or change my view on life or anything.

Hey OP, why don't you read Tomoyo After ~It's a Wonderful Life~? The manga version's translated.

People putting the blame on external factors rather than realizing it's their own fault. How cute.

>>3928331
I'll never understand why people like Tomoyo.

She's a generic, unfunny pile of shit with a boring, generic background, why should I give a shit about her?

Also, what kind of stupid shit is Tomoya dying of a brain tumor? Talk about trying to jerk tears out by randomly killing someone off. She didn't deserve Tomoya like Nagisa did, and Tomoyo's parents were also boring and generic.

I hate this VN more than anything else.

It sent me into such a wild state that my heart was beating irregularly.
It lasted for over a year.
It caused me to drop out of college as a junior.
It caused me to move back in with my dad.
It caused my dad to put me in goddamn therapy.
It ruined my life.

I've basically turned into Mikan's master. I'm just now recovering from the depression and now I'm truly grasping how much this VN screwed me over. This shit needs to be banned, it's like cancer.

Anyways, I'm done venting. I just had to get it off my chest so I can try to move on.

>>3928356
I don't think he was blaming Clannad for causing his problems. It made him realize that he fucked up his life, except he doesn't get Key Magic to save him.

>>3928032
Wow.

I mean, damn.

>>3929155
Sure shut you bitches up.

Woah way to get emotional over a piece of virtual shit like that OP. Just think about it, they are not real and youll be fine.

>>3929175
NAGISA IS REAL

She... she has to be.

Oh god....

>>3928032
Well, uh... I don't really know what to say

>>3929192
report him, he is bandodging anyways

When I played the VN i don't remember any happy reunion at the end. What did I do wrong? I thought I followed the walkthrough exactly.

>>3929206
Walkthrough's coverage of After Story is spotty at best. I had no fucking clue what it was trying to tell me. Had to use a Polish guide to tell me what I was actually supposed to do.

>>3929206
You did it right.

Whatever people say, the bad end is the true end. The "good" end is for faggots in denial who are willing to accept bullshit magic for their cop-out happy ending.

The only reason they made a good ending is because they couldn't release a VN with a message that life is an unfair pile of shit and that you should kill yourself to avoid the pain.

Saya no Uta > Clannad

>>3929236
Not even remotely close.

>>3929245

I was super depressed for a week after finishing the Fate route in FSN. It was right before Christmas last year too.

>>3929236
Generic lovecraftian ending 154486
Seriously it was basically the same ending as everything Lovecraft wrote before.

>>3929255
like what?

Nothing made me cry more then the end of Heaven's Feel, knowing Shirou gave up such a manly dream and his body for a slut.

>>3927771
Try fiishing the game and get the TRUE end where they live, happily, healthily.

>>3929262

He hasn't actually read Lovecraft, he was just trying to come off as smart and literate.

>>3929262
Humanity is weak as shit against otherworldly horrors that we were not meant to see, and it's best to end yourself before you go completely apeshit when the eldritch horrors come back.

Have you never read a Lovecraft book before?

>>3928032

>>3927847
>MAGICAL FORCED DRAMA SHIT
>MOVING

haha oh wow

>Hey /jp/, I'm more pathetic than you.

>100 posts and 14 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

And people worry that our kids are being emotionally desensitized by the media. The real problem is our kids aren't desensitized enough!

Wow, and I thought /jp/ was already responsible in ruining my life a bit too much for my liking.

I feel bad for you, OP.

>>3927962
>>Gentle Jena is now playing in your head.
No... No.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3929234
ITT: REAL DEAL VS DISNEY

Now discuss until autosageru

I love this thread..

plz post moar of this stuff... it makes me feel good inside

fuck man It's the same with me OP but no where near that bad, I still come to this board and download all the latest visual novels but I know if I ever play them I will regret it for the next 3 months. So I now just have a 200 GB collection of these game that I should never play but at some point will slip up and fuck myself over

It did the opposite to me because I didn't want to end up like Tomoya.

Clannad made me more depressed than anything I've ever read, but then I got the true end and it made me happier than anything I've read.

And people complaining about the true end must have missed the entire point of the game.

>>3931650
The entire point of the game is REAL LIFE is unfair, people die when they are killed and you have to do your best to overcome it and not going around collecting lights to rez your waifu.

>>3931665
Someone completely missed the point.

>>3931665
While real life may be harsh and it may be true that the story somewhat shows that, I still believe that you missed the point of it all.

>>3931650
>>3933668
>>3933692
Well what was the point then?

Because I sure think it was what >>3931665 said. And I think the true end sucked.

>>3931665
>>3927802

Those posts are done by me.
I am pretty sure I am not the only one that is disappointed by the bullshit magical end.
I sure don't think collecting lights and rezzing the dead waifu is the whole point of the game? I admit I might be a bit biased because of how unlikeable Nagisa is to me but the bonding between Ushio and Tomoya after Nagisa dead was some of the most touching scenes ever and having Nagisa reviving just retconned the whole thing.

Also just watch Avatar today and I am somewhat shocked that people are hailing it as revolutionary and so.
It is just a Princess Mononoke and Pocahontas clone.

WTF is Forced Drama? Is FSN forced action? Is Everybody Loves Raymond forced comedy? Is The West Wing forced politics?

>>3934442
I think it is the term used by /a/ trolls for any show that they deemed has too many conflicts or shit that happen without any fightan.

>>3934442
Forced is usually used when the author, instead of relying on his characters and story to provided the sentiment, goes the extra mile to force it upon you.
It is not tied to quantity (for example, lots of tragic events), but rather presentation(how one event tore up the heart into million pieces each dipped in molten lava and how nothing will be the same again, repeating these sentiments over and over like you are an idiot who cannot get it).
Trolls use it for things they do not like, like most terms.

>>3927991
>>3928002
>>3928004

Well according to the drama CD after Yumemi derpherp dies, he wonders around to colonies where people are still left and shows them the stars with a homemade projector, gaining the name Man of the Stars. The CD starts here. He's old and is found in the snow by three kids. Long story short, he shows the kids the stars, the kids are so impressed that they want to become his disciples, but before that happens he dies due to age and illness making that his last projection. During the end he sees Yumemi who comes for him, and gives in after realizing that she actually forgave him for everything, following her to heaven. Finally as he reaches heaven Yumemi greets him crying;_; then they both proceed for a projection in Yumemi's former planetarium but this time, filled with the people Yumemi was always waiting for;_;.[/spoiler

>>3934562
Fuck! Thought putting spoilers in spoilers in spoilers actually works.... Fuck!

>>3934576
You seem to have inputted only the second part of the second set of spoiler tags.

>>3934562
http://a.scarywater.net/doremi/%5BDoremi%5D.Planetarian.Audio.Drama.01.A.Snow.Globe.%5BCEB61646%5D.m
kv.torrent

Really?
From this?

>>3934582
Eh I'll just split them up I guess. Wanted just one big spoiler with otherspoilers in it rather than make more small ones. Oh well retyping it just because I want to see it right.

Well according to the drama CD after Yumemi derpherp dies, he wonders around to colonies where people are still left and shows them the stars with a homemade projector, gaining the name Man of the Stars. The CD starts here. He's old and is found in the snow by three kids. Long story short, he shows the kids the stars, the kids are so impressed that they want to become his disciples, but before that happens he dies due to age and illness making that his last projection. During the end he sees Yumemi who comes for him, and gives in after realizing that she actually forgave him for everything, following her to heaven.Finally as he reaches heaven Yumemi greets him crying;_; then they both proceed for a projection in Yumemi's former planetarium but this time, filled with the people Yumemi was always waiting for.;_;

If this works it means I'm an idiot and can only have a spoiler in a spoiler.

>>3934600
Nah bro, this happens in the third one, Hoshi no Hito.

>>3934619
How did he survived the mech toward the end of Planetarian again?
Maybe it is time for me to re read it.

So out of all the Key games, AIR is supposed to be the most depressing one at the end?

>>3934685
Are you forgetting Planetarian and Tomoyo After?

>>3934666
They also mention that. Well in case you forgot he did plant a grenade in that and destroyed it. Well after Yumemi derp dies, he's found lying there with a broken leg and rescued. From that point on he'd become the Man of the Stars that would bring a starry sky to humans that had no idea how the night sky looked any more.

>>3928032
>OP here, please pity me.