/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>39200552
>forgotten
Anon just download them right now before its too late and they will never be forgotten.

>>39200552

I remember the men that created a remasterization of the PC'98 games, the people in the comments said: "the game is complete, but he needs the zun approvation, but, he is to afraid to contact them"

i said well?

Does it have to be fully Touhou?
Ukagaka Smash EX
Has Reimu, Marisa and Sakuya as playable characters where you can beat up a bunch of meme 2ch ukagaka girls

>>39200552
Seems this is going to become reality, they just removed Gensou Garden Monogatari from Moriyashrine.

I don't understand why Moriya Shrine is complying to these DMCA requests. Aren't they a site for pirates by pirates?

>>39201946
Direct downloads can very much lead to a site getting nuked if it gets a dmca request, Torrent sites get away with it because they don't directly host the content.

>>39201874
Gensou Garden Monogatari is apparently getting a Switch release?
https://en.touhougarakuta.com/column-en/touhou-fangame-translations-with-hakanaiblue/

>>39201946
>>39201962
Why don't they just base themselves in a shithole country that doesn't care about this stuff, like exhentai does, or loads of other piracy websites? Or host links to the content offsite in Megas or something, which are much harder to control?

>>39202152
>Hakanaiblue
Maybe there is a reason for the removal

>>39202226
As a silver lining, it seems that it's unlikely that this will reach developers who aren't active anymore, which hopefully means the games taken down are still available for download elsewhere. And I'm sure some hoarding anons would have them as well.

I almost forgot about Pocket Wars, but I don't remember playing this one much besides as a tween trying to understand how it plays. I'll be playing it again, hopefully with less retarded reading comprehension.
>>39202166
A mix of off site downloads and torrents would be the best bet, but who knows if they have plans to salvage the site with all the eyes on them right now.

>>39202293
That is a very optimistic assumption, I hope that doesn't happen. Worst case scenario, some anti-piracy spergs take down the whole site.

>>39202367
>I hope that doesn't happen
I should rephrase it, I meant that I hope that fangames don't get taken down at all

>>39202367
I really dunno how much reach their twitter posts have. Why would some Japenese "purge everything I did from the Internet" sperg read their posts, especially if they are not involved with Touhou anymore?
But yes, it is optimistic.

>>39202385
One already did

>>39202226
>but I think it's good
Yeah, not being able to play LLS, MS or EoSD is great.
Fucking idiot.

>>39202394
I was more or less referring to the western anti-piracy fags, but those nip purges would be worrying as well.
>>39202424
I'm aware, it is just my hopeful thinking.

>>39202460
Apparently 3 more have been removed
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/570-marisa-to-arisu/
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/571-marisa-to-arisu-no-torapputawa/
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/446-gensou-garden-monogatari/

>>39202475
I guess my delusions that this wouldn't end up in some domino effect is crushed

>>39202424
It seems like even more old fangames got removed as well.
>https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/571-marisa-to-arisu-no-torapputawa/
>https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/570-marisa-to-arisu/

Well this is bullshit

I hope people are able to save all the fangames they can because there's a lot that won't ever be recovered again

>>39202526
I almost have downloaded all the platformers, just 3 more left and then I will move on to the next category.

>>39202558
Good luck if you're serious. Piracy preserves history after all.

>>39202570
I really could use some help if they are actively taking them down as I really have terrible internet and its taken me an hour or so to download all the platformers.

>>39202581
Calling all anons who can lend a hand

>>39202581
Did you get Sanae Challenge! Fusion? I'm downloading that one right now

>>39202558
Names?

>>39202642
This is the last one in the platformer category I'm downloading right now, it will take another 17 or so minutes.
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/427-%E6%B0%B8%E9%81%A0%E6%B6%88%E5%A4%B1%E7%9A%84%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E9%84%89-%EF%BD%9E-the-disappearing-of-gensokyo/

>>39202673
I'll do the puzzle games then

>>39202226
Dude is literally snitching and causing a panic where there shouldn't be one

>>39202890
Well it gave me an excuse to binge download fan games. I have barely played any

>>39201874
>>39202152
Does anyone have a backup of Gensou Garden Monogatari themselves? I checked Nyaa and it doesn't look like it's up there,

>>39202226
>Touhou fangame translator.
Quoting his twitter header.
He also bragged about getting 2 circles taken down.

>>39202948
>He also bragged about getting 2 circles taken down.
Really? wow

https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1508999668788862984
>Currently, I have succeeded in deleting the works of the two circles without any problems.
>I don't want to paste the url of the example site directly, but if I search for "moriya shrine", it should appear at the top.
Fuckin tattle-tale, literally no reason other than to flex ego.

>>39202969
He's saved the internet by deleting works that were otherwise hard to obtain for most people, very cool

>>39202969
>>39203001
Really hope someone saved the works that already got taken down.

>>39202969
Is he talking about the three links that were posted ITT earlier?

>>39203028
There are like 14 games so far that have been taken down so far. I'll compile a list of what's gone once I've downloaded everything that I can

>>39202969
https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1509023862889009153
The mental gymnastics would make Cirno jealous

>>39203064
>those fangames only have so many physical copies, and when they sell out thats it, the dev isnt getting more money from them. these downloads dont harm the dev at all, and in fact help awareness of them. buying preowned doesnt support the dev at all

Furry avatar makes a surprisingly good point.
Sure you can say buying secondhand helps you become aware of the creator as well, but when they aren't getting money off of it and it's going straight to the store owners, isn't that kind of stupid to argue for it?
Though I know there's some creators as well who also get assblasted about people reselling secondhand (i.e IOSYS had a whole shitpost not shitpost song, catchy as it is)

>>39203064
People shitting themselves over legality are faggots. Tell him to read the EU report that shows how piracy has no impact.

>>39203064
this guy is such a dumbass holy fuck

>>39202969
I genuinely don't understand how so many people can derive pleasure from stopping other people from enjoying things

>>39202969
I actually bought Izakaya, but from now on I think I'm going to pirate every single game translated by this cunt. I'd like to support developers, but I loathe the idea of him getting another penny from me.

>>39203064
It seems that I have truly lost my respect for this faggot

>>39202526
For what it's worth, anons on /v/ are also tryin to save shit so it's not just us at least
here's a saucy mystia i got from there to make everyone feel better

For the games thst are already gone, unless uploaded on torrents or other obscure sites I suggest reaching out to one of the mods in regard to getting a download link for the sake of preservation. Avoid making too much evidence of it happening.

>>39203178
Mods on Moriyashrine*

>>39203178
I contacted them via the form on the site earlier, hoping to hear a reponse but it's a cock.li email...
If any of you faggots use Twitter or Discord unrironically now is the time to put aside the ERP and ask them, too

Also, for the fangames that were deleted. Is it still possible to recover the download links, are they still accessible if you know the URL? If we do we will probably not need to ask anyone.

>>39203228
No, but you're free to try.

>>39203244
Looks like I can't get these: >>39202501
>>39202475
Official games are replaced with a .txt file, so no use in getting that. Unless the download link is hidden somehow you can't get it by snooping around.

>>39203228
You can't, if you try messing with the URL you're told you aren't allowed to download the file.
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/446-gensou-garden-monogatari/?do=download&confirm=1&csrfKey=d1d6ef8dd4ba6703d053bd1193b09971

>>39203268
Someone needs to contact the mods to upload them someone else.

>>39203268
Someone needs to contact the mods to upload them somewhere else.

>>39203291
I'm more for the idea of trying to exchange the games behind the scenes so they can be put on torrent.

>>39203306
I'm not really familiar with how torrenting works, are mega links safe?

>>39203306
Yeah, if you want to do that then go ahead if you are not already downloading the games.

>>39203312
MEGA follows takedown notices and bans, but it's easy to bypass those bans. Tedious but it works, and is probably the least sketch out of all upload sites.
t. Uploaded several gigaleak mirrors before and got canned.
I've also heard good things about Anonfiles, even if they glow in the dark a bit.

>>39203314
I don't have the time to spare right now. If one wants to do it fast, the simple way is to try and get ahold of an email or something.

>>39203312
Just search up a guide for how torrenting works anon.
Basically torrenting works on "peer-to-peer" where users connect to each other. Downloads are hosted by the people downloading, but they can stop seeding if they want to to preserve their own security. This means some people can seed from places that they can't be taken down from.
To torrent, you just need a torrent client (such as Deluge) and a torrent file. Alternatively you can use a magnet link that you manually add into the torrent client to start a download manually.
It's legal to torrent, but the downloads might not technically be "legal."
Because it's peer-to-peer, it's much harder to take down sites like Moriyashrine because the files are not hosted in one clean space and that space can change by the minute.

>>39203357
take down than sites like moriyashrine*
There are places that compile torrent files, such as nyaa.si, which are public. There are also places that share torrents privately, which means more seeders and more reliable downloads at the cost of availability for outsiders because it's very hard to fuck over people seeding torrents if you can't even get access to the torrent.

mfw desunoya and chiyuudou games are doa
i fucked up i could have saved a few if my net wasn't ass

>>39203064
>i-it's illegal
how is it his business again
he's no rights holder nor an official authority so he should stick to vomiting his "piracy bad" opinion on tw*tter

>>39203422
Not to promise anything, but I have most of chiyuudou's fire emblemish games stashed away on my drives.

>>39203377
Retarded question but do I need a torrent client to upload files to torrent compile sites like nyaa? I'd try nyaa myself but I can never access it. Every time I try I get some "took too long to respond" error or something

>>39203422
Don't blame yourself anon.

>>39203453
Just download Tixati

>>39203453
A torrent file is small, just catbox it

>>39203422
Surely Desunoya is available somewhere else...?
>>39202633
Downloading non-danmakufu 2d shmups. Focusing on the older games not available elsewhere (to my knowledge).

>>39203453
You'll need a torrent client to create the torrent file and be the first seeder. You never upload the files, just the torrent itself.

>>39202633
>>39203469
Downloaded all Danmakufu 2D shooters.
This site is easier to use then I thought! I assumed it would be a pain with the 60 second timer, but it's really nice since it lets you have several timers going at once. I can see why some people like this site: it's the least scummy non-torrent pirate site I've ever seen.

>>39203685
Maybe I should just let other people do the downloading who actually have good internet as I have been trying to get all of the 2d shooters for the past 2 and a half hours now.

Full list of currently removed games and the categories they were in. I managed to get both Marisa to Arisu games before they were removed, and I found a download of MariAri online so I'm sure at least some of these can still be found elsewhere, and hopefully some anons will have the rest.

Misc
Gensou Garden Monogatari https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/446-gensou-garden-monogatari/
Marisa to Arisu https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/570-marisa-to-arisu/
Marisa to Arisu no Torapputawa https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/571-marisa-to-arisu-no-torapputawa/

Puzzle
Touhou Fortune Star Panic! https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/356-touhou-fortune-star-panic/
MariAri https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/223-mariari/
Gensou Tansaku Nitroid! https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/224-gensou-tansaku-nitroid/

SRPG
Yabou no Gensoukyou 1.00L https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/840-yabou-no-gensoukyou-100l/
Cirno Senki - Gensou no Keifu Gaiden https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/372-cirno-senki-gensou-no-keifu-gaiden/
East Chemblem ~ 東方ちぇむぶれむ https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/685-east-chemblem-~-%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E3%81%A1%E3%81%87%E3%82%80%E3%81%B6%E3%82%8C%E3%82%80/
Touhou Chengokushi https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/704-touhou-chengokushi/

RPG
Gensou no Keifu - Hajimari no Miko https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/488-gensou-no-keifu-hajimari-no-miko/
Atelier Patchouli https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/414-atelier-patchouli/

2D Platforming/Action
Urapani! https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/838-urapani/
Amapani! https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/410-amapani/

>>39203704
I've finally downloaded all the games myself, but it's good to have multiple people do it just in case someone's PC blows up or something. Besides, downloading them gives you an excuse to try some of them out.

>>39203704
I'm downloading all the 3D shooting games now, which will take a while longer. I have to sleep, so I won't be doing more today. There are still a lot of games left.

>>39203732
You're doing god's work.
I can help you seed (what I have) if you put up a torrent file.

>>39203737
which categories have you got left?

>>39203732
>downloading them gives you an excuse to try some of them out.
This is also true, I'm really only doing this to preserve history as I can not stand by and watch media and the like be erased, I consider myself to be a bit of a historian when it comes to things like that.

looks like it's time to assemble the touhou fangame all-in-one pack, just like the one for the other releases.

thoughts on categories to use for dividing into subfolders?

>>39203787
probably best to divide it just like moriyashrine already does
I can't think of a better way to organize something so expansive

Either the guy is supremely ignorant of the impact of pirates and piracy or he's that and also greedy so he can get hired for translation gigs. They won't get money from banning pirated copies. Or at least not a meaningful amount of it.
https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1509043045265809410
Someone should link him this: https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537

>>39203797
I'd like to believe that the reason he's doing this is because he got a massive ego boost from being featured on the english version of touhou garukata just yesterday
or maybe he was always a destructive asshole bent on removing the content he supposedly loves

I normally lurk, but I want to help out with the preservation and archival process. How exactly should this be handled? Are anons focusing on certain topics at a time or is everyone downloading things in a mad dash? What have anons managed to scrape together so far? I want to contribute but I don't know how to get started.

>>39203859
Just start with a mad dash and organize later. The guy could be contacting more circles as we speak. Someone should get a hold of the already deleted games as well.

>>39203792
It's big but most of these games are less than 50mb.

>>39203874
Will do. Got it.

>>39203765
All the non-shooter categories, but see this post:
>>39203732

>>39203797
Maybe he's been hanging out too much with the Japanese, and adopted their values, or want to do something for them or impress them. No use speculating about it. Let's just try to find the games that the anon above didn't manage to download before they went down.

Can anyone else download this game? I'm getting an error when trying to download it.
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/654-touhou-dreaming-butterfly-%E4%B8%9C%E6%96%B9%E8%9D%B6%E6%A2%A6%E5%BF%97/

>>39203913
Oh my, I got an error too. Looks like that faggot got to this game too

https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/598-rinrin-mai-futaka/
can someone try this one?
I think it might be gone as well

>>39203913
Error for me as well.

>>39203931
Seems to be working, for now.

>>39203913
At least it's available on Steam.
Still think the best bet is contacting the site owners for the last goodies. Ultimately no one can really do shit about torrents.

>>39203753
I'm a bit retarded so I don't entirely know how to do that. I can look into that tomorrow since it's late as hell, but it won't be until some time in the evening tomorrow so I wouldn't suggest waiting for me to set something like that up.
>>39203772
At the very least the things that have been removed so far are things that seem to be available on DLsite and such, so those aren't lost.

https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1509063047972802561
What kind of dumb argument is this? The devs gatekeep their work but don't do anything with it and barely intend to? The people on the other side probably don't know much of anything about piracy, hence the stigma and reaction. I feel that they'd respond more favorably if they had some nuance (like the EU study) read to them.

>>39204052
>I feel that they'd respond more favorably if they had some nuance (like the EU study) read to them.
I'm not entirely sure, if only because of how big the transience of artworks and the right to disappear is over there. Piracy goes directly against that, it takes control of the work's distribution out of the hands of the artist.
That's what my armchair psychology tells me at least.

I've cleared out the fighting section

>>39203797
He got a signal boost from being featured on garukata and now wants to be the defacto translator for fangames.
Do free work and then get paid, simple concept. Show how much the gaijin are pirating and get some cash money instead of working for a real company. It's the only thing that makes sense.

>>39204052
>The devs
The actual devs probably don't care about a few westerners pirating it. This power tripping dumbass should have no authority over other people's work.

>>39204085
I don't believe culture should be transient and frankly all art is culture. If the artist wants to be transient, then their identity should be anonymous or psuedononymous.
His argument in my eyes is like if the Taliban said "you are not entitled to allow sculptures just because our country brutalizes tourists" and then bombed this (which they did).

>>39204149
>I don't believe culture should be transient and frankly all art is culture.
Yeah I totally agree with you about that, I'm just saying that Japan doesn't seem to see things that way and stuff like jouhatsu or Pixiv artists constantly nuking all of their works out of the blue is a symptom of that.

>>39202226
>>39202969
>>39203064
He has a Patreon. How big of a hurdle is it to DMCA it?

>>39204180
I don't know if Patreons fall outside of ZUN's guidelines considering commissions and fanbox exists. It's not really the same as a kickstarter.

>>39204196
patreon is fundamentally not much different from fanbox, so if that's allowed, it probably is too
I know we're all pissed at this guy, but I don't think we can just hope to find something he's been doing wrong to attack him over

>>39204217
That's why everyone should scoop up the fangame library. Maybe wave a picture of a private torrent in his face and say "yarr harr fiddle de dee"

>>39204248
I think that should be our end goal if we download every fangame and catalogue them and put them in a torrent, also everyone that's downloading make sure you are properly sorting them in different folders.

>>39204277
Still, we need the already deleted games. Any place that may have had them? Check Nyaa, google, etc. DS maybe?

There is an irony in his actions to stop downloading leading to a direct increase in downloads.

>>39204277
Do you think we should stop at just fangames? What if they come after stuff like the non-h doujins?

>>39204196
>>39204217
>I don't know if Patreons fall outside of ZUN's guidelines
Doesn't matter, we have already established that DMCA system is a joke and can be abused freely. I was asking about how bothersome is the process of filing DMCA.
This faggot shouldn't be allowed to make money from being a pest to the 2hu community and actively trying to destroy art preservation.

>>39204295
Well Desunoya has a booth page with the games on sale.

>>39204339
that means they can be added at some point
it's all a bit of a mess right now, but if we can get organized and put everything into a torrent, it'll just be a matter of keeping it updated

The thing that rubs me wrong with Moriya is some games are pre-patched. It feels improper for preservation purposes; I would rather the original files and separate patches.
I would also probably group things by circle but that type of organization lends itself more to knowing what you want than browsing.

>>39204405
Thing is that you'd have to procure the original game as well. The patches may also be lost to time.

>>39204428
a lot of them are already gone
the original patch file for gensou tansaku nitroid was on shrinemaiden.org and the link is long dead

>>39204439
What a quagmire. Whatever we need someone who has the game to share it at least.

Where can i download the main series games eng-patched now?
Also there is hope moriya shrine will get back somehow?

>>39204764
There's an all in one torrent on Nyaa. Don't know if they're patched though.
You can control which files/folders are downloaded with a torrent as well.

>>39204764
You can download solopatches for the games from the thcrap wiki. This is preferable for me since I don't like having to check for updates to a 20 year old shoot em up on launch.

>>39204311
Nah I may be pissed he tattled but I'm not cutting of his income. I'd wouldn't want that to happen to me.

>>39204974
Addendum: might just be me but I'd rather not go after anyone honestly. Right now all our energy should be focused on saving what's left.

As for a place to put them torrents aside, would Archive.org be any good?

>>39204974
There's difference between legit income from hard work and e-begging leeching money from community you hate.

>>39205064
A torrent file is small, so just put it where it will last. Nyaa.si is best since it keeps track of seeders and such.
Also, I feel that the manga/print works also need backups since they went after those. If they can be scraped there's another torrent to make. Most of it's on Mangadex I think.

>>39205102
Dynasty Scans has a good amount of official manga to save too. That said iirc they never finished uploading Wild and Horned Hermit, but the remaining chapters aren't hard to look for.

>>39205102
Well I suggested Archive since you can also use it for direct downloads too. We can even put the official mangas there. Not saying it should replace the torrent plan but it doesn't hurt to cover plenty of bases

>>39205153
Doesn't Dynasty Scans have a download limit? I think it was 8 downloads every 24 hours last I checked.

>>39205064
Uploading multiple copies to multiple file hosting services and sharing links everywhere (different links, not the same one) is the way to go.
Moriya is a fucking disaster and the opposite of how you should handle piracy. Self-hosted files, no redundancy, asshole gaping wide open for copytard abuse both legit and fraudulent.
I learned this lesson the hard way when some gaijin faggot reported my mega link that was just copypasted by dojin.co subhumans.

>>39205187
Idk I never used it for downloading, but if it gets that way I assume downloading page by page is fine too (if tedious)

Reading the moriya shrine thread about the nuking, it's said that it's not clear who's doing the snitching, there is even a rumor that the author of this mess is some cocksucker from 8ch*n who has filed a false report.
Do you guys have more information? The situation is kinda weird, and i want to have hope that everything will return to normal someway or the other.

>>39205292
It's been more or less confirmed that the initial guy is Ruw/ZUN's lawyer. There is a second who's trying to get fangames down now by alerting circles.

>>39205292
This is the rundown as far as I'm aware. The first DMCA was sent anonymously. An anon from 4+4chan claimed to be the sender. Then the second one was filed by Fumio Oyamada, Zun's lawyer. There are some DMCA related comments in his tweets from what I checked. Then some translator on Twitter caught wind and started alerting circles to pull their games from Moriya.

>>39205383
Why the Zun's lawyer would get involved? I thought Zun didn't give a fuck about the west's piracy.

>>39205395
According to the shrine, he has done DMCA takedowns before. As to why, nobody knows. I heard people say that ZUN's finally selling out or that he changed his decade old stance on piracy due to him changing his stance on uploading his games to Steam, but that's just speculation. We haven't heard anything official yet.

>>39205342
>>39205383
What annoys me is I'm fine with ZUNs legal guy taking his stuff down because it's easy to keep circulating it/some legal releases, meanwhile the guy contacting circles has no excuse and is just damaging things

I tried to talk some sense into the guy on the realities of piracy. I hope he understands after reading.

>>39205383
Oyamada probably wouldn't have found out if people didn't get nutty on Twitter imo

>>39205460
This is why I hate the western fanbase. He is against piracy, but advocates secondhand selling. The former is bad because nobody makes money, but the latter is okay because an unrelated third party does? I don't think talking some sense will get through to him that easily.
>>39205547
True. The first DMCA was also happening at the same time some nut was causing a shitstorm over his headcanon at the wiki. There was also a rumor the two were connected and the guy tried to crash the shrine out of spite.

>>39205511
>talking to someone this high off his own farts
This wapanese clown thinks he's the CEO of Touhou or some shit.

>>39205547
>>39205594
Oyamada said in one tweet that his first DMCA did not go through correctly. He 100% initiated.

>>39205598
It wouldn't surprise me if this was some attempt to make money and gain trust with the Japanese community. Remove the shrine translations and sell them back at a cost. Sounds scummy all around.

>>39205632
Well if that's the case then so be it honestly. We'll go back to the olden days while finding another place to host ddls. Guess I'll use all my energy for the fan game preservation then.

Will Patreon just discard my DMCA letter if I don't include any contact info?

>>39205632
If the problem only comes from a japanese comoany, can one solution be just to forbid access to the moriya shrine to the japanese community? I'v read somewhere someone suggesting this, is it actually a viable way to solve the legal controversy?

>>39206044
If we read the same suggestion, then the post mentioned that ZUN's lawyer can still file through an American license holder to uphold American DMCA laws. Besides, its not like blocking Japanese IPs will stop the problem when we have western snitches leaking everything to the Japanese side.

>>39206044
Just put them up as torrent/magnet links on moriyashrine instead. They get enough traffic that there'd be enough seeders.

>>39206094
>western snitches leaking everything to the Japanese side
god, I loathe good boys/girls seeking out brownie points the most. Lame as fuck

>>39206094
this is the new generation, I guess
moral busybodies for whom the idea of either doing something purely out of passion or understanding why piracy exists
they would not be able to do what they are doing if piracy hadn't build the western community for well over a decade and a half
there's our hated boy in blue translator, but I'd also keep an eye out on that 'don't think, look' translation circle, because their policy is translating doujins and then giving them to the author to sell as well

>>39206330
*understanding why piracy exists is horrifying
forgot to actually finish the sentence lol

>>39206042
If you're gonna go through DMCA'ing his Patreon, you may as well go the full mile.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNnNzx5ZOpK7sl2rDEbpbeA

A link worth checking it.
>>>/v/593792830

>>39202932
>>39203732
Chiyuudou? These rats, I can't believe they'd go after East Chemblem and the rest. If any of you anons need some of their games, I have you covered.

I'm surprised that SHoSS hasn't been uploaded to nyaa yet.

>>39207356
I don't think he's making any money from it but considering how overzealous Jewtube is with its copyright enforcement it might be worth a try.

>>39207594
>ShoSS
What's that

Ok, grabbed what I really want to keep, good job on archiving everything. However beyond the fangames, has the music CDs and the print works already been compiled in one source as well ?

>>39207659
Gouyoku Ibun.
Submerged Hell of Sunken Sorrow.

>>39207594
Purchase the video game

>>39207676
Not sure. Better investigate

Oh yeah, here's one that I surprisingly haven't seen :New Super Marisa Land. Do someone have that ?

>>39207676
Hakuneko Desktop to read the mangas + SDV + BAJR offline. Literature is found where people quote them so the wayback machine would work for them. If all else fails, archive.is might work to save the page too.

>>39205064
Archive.org caves to DMCAs every now and then, don't rely on it 100%
Torrents should be uploaded to multiple places besides Nyaa as well
>>39207676
Print works are scattered, some on Nyaa, some on Mangadex, and I know there's some dedicated web pages like suzunaan.neocities.org

ZUNs stance changed
It's official, he's money hungry
https://moriyashrine.org/forums/topic/988-dmca-moriya-shrine/?do=findComment&comment=6658

>>39208069
It's over..

>>39208069
Great, just great. Do a game about capiltalism, suddenly decide to go against the moral of your game. Well, time to archive everything boys. How do one grab from nagadex for the mangas, and as I asked earlier, what of the CDs ?

>>39208069
where did everyone even get the idea that ZUN was cool with piracy anyway?
when he went to that convention in america he said he was amazed at how many people had imported copies, and I only remember him saying that he was cool with english patches, not pirated games

>>39208069
Why can't things just be simple?

>>39208069
Well, this sucks.
I'm going to seed that All-in-one torrent until the heat death of the universe.

Here's a link that should be of interest to some of you:
https://nyaa.si/view/1058859
It mirrors a lot of Moriya's fangames section. Instead of mass downloading from Moriya, you may want to download this and seed it, then only download what's missing.

>>39203732
>MariAri
https://workupload.com/file/X4tHVBvzxyh
>Guru Guru Suika!
https://workupload.com/file/74SNn5FFWnc
>Fortune Star Panic!
https://workupload.com/file/nQrnGUJQMAg
>Gensou Tansaku Nitroid!
https://workupload.com/file/qGa7s4mFFx4
>MariAri 2
https://workupload.com/file/HMpZgGgDqPQ
>Amapani!
https://workupload.com/file/h76BX5XMCSZ
>Urapani!
https://workupload.com/file/LmsRFmtd5KA
>Atelier Patchouli
https://workupload.com/file/wytETrfT2bd
I also have these but I'm too lazy to upload them. Should still be easy enough to find.
>Cirno Senki (it's in the torrent above)
>Yabou no Gensoukyou
>East Chemblem
>Touhou Chengokushi
>Gensou no Keifu - Hajimari no Miko
I don't have this one and I can't find it anywhere:
>Gensou Garden Monogatari
Fuck copyright jews and fuck niggers.

As much as I hate the translator I don't think going after him directly right away is the right call, that can come later when things are more clear I think.
He clearly wanted to be on good terms with japanese devs so he could pull this kind of a stunt and tried to make sure "his" work sold well, he shilled his translation work for Hinas trading game and Help me remember Satori-sama on /v/.

Now that he has his foot in the door he is likely seizing the opportunity this DMCA hullabaloo is causing. By having a direct line to the devs it's likely he is feeding them misinformatio and is fishing for easy work, likely wants the circles to take him as the defacto translator for west releases or whatever big dreams this idiot has.


Aside from backing up everything, this should be the norm and not the first response btw, I think making a point to the japs of not buying anything this guy has his sticky fingers in would be a good first step after things are downloaded.

>>39208137
I mean, didn't seem to be a problema since now.

>>39208135
CDs are scattered between torrent sites, Dojinstyle and a handful of internet blogs iirc, not to mention Youtube and Spotify as a last resort. I know there is one large torrent with all the official music and the newest Hiifu CD is somewhere there as well.
Use gallery-dl to download from Mangadex, it's a command line tool.

>>39208178
I think the thing is that we want complete libraries available. You can after that just pick what you want in the torrent settings.
After the manga and print works are scraped they should also get theor own torrents honestly. Manga are already shared on Nyaa.
CDs/OSTs need their own too.

>>39208069
ZUN doesn't even have the code for pre-SA games lol
If it wasn't for piracy no one in the west would give a single fuck about the actual videogames. Guaranteed that somebody at goodsmile is pushing this too since they're pushing out $250+ statues and trying to push it on the gaijin. Your gacha sucks, your statues are okay at best, and the only reason anyone outside of people too shit to play CAVE games give a damn is because of secondary content.

>>39208069
>May 19th 2021
I guess Chimata really did hate virtual markets
Verification not required

>>39208135
It's funny how anticapitalist both the game and the dedicated CoLA chapter was to the point people assumed he was a communist and then this shit happens.
I get feeding your family, but with all the corporate ties he has now, but going after a site that mostly people outside of US, UK and Japan where game prices and digital purchasing gets stupid uses is...not a good look imo

>>39208259
Just to add on. The steam release of SA was literally downloaded from Moriya shrine which is why it was flagged as malware and taken down from the store for some time.

>>39208259
It's sad that ZUN doesn't give a damn about his older works or the people who like them

>>39208315
*and with the
Also wanted to add on to the fact Moriyashrine mostly had older fanworks which are a pain in the ass to find between MEGA killing whatever links and old ass Blogspots with busted Rapidshare + Mediafire links too

>>39208315
>I get feeding your family
DMCAs aren't edible.
There is no excuse for copyfaggotry.
It is always malicious and having delusions like "lost potential profits" is not an excuse.

>>39208178
Well anon I wish you luck in obtaining the game. I'm sure you will be able to find it somewhere, whether legally or otherwise.

>>39208500
Just buy it using whiterabbit like a good person. You aren't going to deny those hardworking slant eyes a profit are you?
Also if you want an english patch be sure to pay the translator as well.

This is going to be the future isn't it

How long until ZUN starts putting DRM in his games?

>>39208315
Where was Zun anticapitalists? Genuinely curious, it's a thing i never noticed.
Also there are no words to describe what a piece of shit he is. If it were not for piracy there would never have been a touhou community outside of japan.

>>39208534
It does sound like a more expensive future. Sadly price will gatekeep more potential fans than/jp/ ever did.
All I can do is post Vietnamese touhous and browse 4chan boards like /jp/ and /v/ to numb the pain...

>>39208559
It's more like the words Rinnosuke used, something along the lines of "Money is just paper what matters is how much effort you put in" and UM which was entirely yokai attepting to outjew each other for personal profits which made people think that. Not saying he is, we don't know his beliefs until he says them.
>>39208557
Steam already has DRM iirc which is another reason many refuse to buy.
If he went with a non DRM storefront like GoG, I am sure he would have more willing customers.

>>39208650
steam doesn't REALLY have drm, but it depends on how the developer is setting it up
the steam version of UM doesn't even have the usual steam_api file

>>39208590
Price doesn't even gatekeep the right people, who ever heard of a rich artist or fangame dev?
I want answers on if this is decision by ZUN and his lawyer was made because of the gacha or if this was because of a bad actor going and forcing the issue.

So, i'm downloading the games and they have the thcrap folder. To remove it can i just delete the folder or do i need to do extra steps like deny access to internet?

>>39203437
It's not his business. Unless you're the legal representative of someone else, it's totally fradulent to file DMCAs for works that you have no relation to. Like, actually a crime.

>>39208534
Wait just a second there buddy
>>39208178
>>39203732
>>39202932
>Gensou Garden Monogatari
https://workupload.com/file/wvN3GZM83fm
Didn't know it was this hard to find, would have done it sooner otherwise.
There was some save data in the rar for whatever reason so I took that out since it didn't seem particularly important. If something is off just give the word.

>>39208650
he sells on DLSite, though it's really not much

At least all games from Shoot the Bullet (9.5) and onwards are on steam
But those before, which are arguably the most beloved and well-known of the franchise, are not. Are those meant to be lost to time, then? Forgotten about?

th-this is just an early april fools joke right? ZUN wouldn't do this, right? hahah
those wacky timezones and stuff, japan must already be on 1/4, haha...

>>39208682
What do you mean by
>the right people
Anon?
Also I'm guessing this was ZUN's decision. The fact that ZUN sent a DMCA earlier last year means that he had wanted to remove unofficial hosters for a long time. We may never know.

>>39208534
All new Touhou games are going to be released with an included English patch by Hakanai, you will suffer through all the shitty grammatical errors and you will not make a new patch to fix it.

>>39208718
Saved! Thank you for your service.

Doujin spirit my ass.

>>39208848
Torrents exist, you know.

a quick reminder on a tangential, but still related note
if an artist has:
>don't repost without permission
in their bio or profile on whatever site, it is your moral obligation to save their entire galleries and post them everywhere you fucking can

>>39208848
>At least all games from Shoot the Bullet (9.5) and onwards are on steam
Steam versions are shit because vsynch patch doesn't work with them.

>>39208864
I've been telling you bitches he lost his doujin spirit since all the gacha and game collabs. It's just another "indie with a bunch of publishing ties" now.

>>39208884
I also remove artists' signature if there is one.

>>39208884
unfathomably based,jap artists are insufferably autistic and i'm tired of seeing artists i follow pull the plug on themselves for stupid reasons

>>39208922
Based on what?

>>39208849
I mean that most bad actors in the west tend to be either well off or living off of money from their family.
The kind of people who would go and tell to ZUN or even his lawyer about sites like Moriya.

>>39203123
If you enjoy it so much so stealing it.

Fair (though in a practical sense: pointless) to remove the available, but removing the unavailable is just a bad/shortsighted move.
The games have been getting added to Steam each year so, theoretically, 6-9 will get up fairly "soon". That said Tasofro games are much less available.

>>39208985
He literally doesn't have the code for 6-9.

>>39203123
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

>>39209015
Doesn't stop him from uploading binaries. Touhou 6-9 never had CD checks in the first place.

okay, to get us back on track
what's the fangame status now? who's got what?

>>39209015
If only there was a place to download old Touhou games for free.

>>39209015
then taking them down serves no purpose, no offense to him but it's like pic related. "Oops now no one new can play them"

That said it's not like MS was anywhere near the end all be all source.

>>39208590
It's fine, pirates will always find a way. We might have a bit of catching up to do, but nothing should be truly lost if we do everything now.
>>39208236
Right, that thing, I already have it. Just need a solid backup of the CDs then.
>>39209050
Fairly sure by this point Moriya itself has been fully backed up, now it's up to those who did to recompile I guess. As for me, still haven't found New Super Marisa Land tho.

>>39209132
https://nyaa.si/view/1499431
https://nyaa.si/view/1498633
https://nyaa.si/view/1109243
https://nyaa.si/view/1498983
There is probably more throughout the site

>>39209132
>still haven't found New Super Marisa Land
It's on Moriya, dude.
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/118-marisa-to-muttsu-no-kinoko-new-super-marisa-land/

>>39209194
....Riiiight, I forgot to look at M, not N. Never said I was bright !

>>39209316
They also have it in the misc section instead of platformers for some reason.

>>39209040
>Schade
Wouldn't it actually be sadism, in this case? He's the one who inflicted this mess on us.

is there an all-in-one pack for the official print works/OSTs?

>>39202890
Translators are usually overactive faggots

>>39210033
See >>39209156 for OSTs, print works >>39208236 will get you the manga series at least, Grimoire of Marisa is also there. ColA and the other part of Bougetsushou I'm sure are somewhere.

Oh yeah, there's a fangame I have found absolutely nowhere, and it's this one : http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ081584.html Do someone here have that backed up somehow ?

>>39210078
anonfiles com/Raw1R3R2x2
anonfiles com/F4mdR5Rbx3
anonfiles com/pc26c6S5x0
CoLA, CiLR, and SoPM
Feel free to put these onto whatever torrent you guys are making

>>39210106
> 15 sales

I feel bad, but if he put it on steam I bet he'd get some nice sales, looks charming

>>39210106
If it's sold on dlsite still it's not in dire need of archival right this second.

>>39205271
You can download entire chapters from dynasty-scans in just one click. It's on the top-right of the page. I always appreciated dynasty-scans for making it easy to do that.
Mangadex may be easier in the end, though: I use mangadex-dl to bulk download entire series when I want to read them.
https://github.com/frozenpandaman/mangadex-dl
(there may be better tools, it is not perfect but it works for non-automated bulk downloading, and it's just a single python script so it's easy to understand and modify.)

Is the torrent for all the fangames ready or is there a need to finish compiling it first?

This mentally ill retard is fucking obsessed with copryright faggotry. I won't be surprised if he's the one who snitched on Moriya in the first place considering that this shit has been on his mind for at least a month.

>>39210413
Is he a fucking idiot? Even the Japanese wiki has the portraits. Hell I've seen some with the music right on the page. Does he wanna enact the wrath of the JP fanbase, too?
He's fucking delusional and whoever wanted to DMCA his shit should absolutely do so if they have the means.

>>39210413
He will singlehandedly destroy the community and he will applaud himself as a hero. The insanity in such a man.

>>39210413
It absolutely was him who forced this "issue".
I think so because of how fast he started posting high on his own farts about this.

>>39210413
>video guide for EoSD
Who is that video going to be for? The few people who paid a ton of money to import it from Japan? Because according to him everyone else shouldn't be playing it.
Is this guy an actual retard?

>>39206330
>>39207356
If you really have to harass someone, at least be clear that you're doing it for them making content less available, not for them working with the creators to make translations.
Their way of translation is not a widespread phenomenon and it's not clear that it's even reducing the amount of freely available translated material. It may even increase it in the end, since their translations don't have much in the way of DRM, so they can be shared freely.

>>39210492
yes
The anon who told him that piracy doesn't harm sales and is a service problem, dropping the typical links and research, basically got him to say "i had a feeling it was like that, but it might be difference with doujin stuff in the % of stuff bought"
Well, the main difference (which he should understand) is that there is none. Piracy would still be a service problem, it's a natural phenomenon occuring when digital items are hard to obtain, whether they need hoops to be played (CD players that are slowly disappearing, 3rd party sellers, high prices, shipping, translation) or anything else. You fix "piracy" by resolving this problem. For example, sales of Touhou on steam would definitely be higher even if it was something simple like letting it go on a discount during summer sale or such. Translation patches can be on us, I don't care, but if you don't fix SERVICE you aren't killing PIRACY.
And even so, providing piracy & service is a good thing because those pirates would not buy normally, but they still talk about the game, creating higher chances of other people buying the game via word of mouth or algorithm fuckery.

>>39208718
>>39208178
Thank you kind anons!

>>39207356
>Hello,
>Thank you for your email. Please respond with your full legal name (a first and last name, not a company name) to serve as your electronic signature so that we may take action on your request.
>Thank you very much for your cooperation.
>Sincerely,
>The YouTube Team

>>39210613
Nate Higgers

>>39210613
Failure.

>>39210613
Don't be like this. Don't respond to anti-piracy by making his videos harder to find. His EoSD guide has actual value to the community.
Leak his translated game instead. Sharing is kindness. We can be better than him.

>>39210712
Nothing this obsessed fag does has any value to the community.

>>39210712
>some youtuber's video guide has value
No. It really doesn't. The only people who give a shit about video guides are retards who can't read.

>>39210712
Let him who lives by copyright trolling, die by copyright trolling.

>>39210712
Would leaking his translated game imply his already translated games, or his ongoing projects as they are locked behind a paywall

>>39210796
That's subjective. I think his EoSD guide has value. Even his translations arguably has value (especially once they get leaked).
But it's not really the point. The point is that we should be better than him.
>>39210828
No one understand danmaku by reading about it. Or even seeing it done by someone else, but it's a step up. It's more detailed than any single written guide I've seen.
It's just a high-effort video, so it doesn't deserve to get taken down.

>>39210923
The games are understood by playing the games.
>>39210919
Just leak everything under the sun he has worked on to be safe.

>>39210919
Surely his already translated games would be easier to leak? If he operates like that other translation circle (which is a big assumption that should be checked), then he is not even making any money from the sales of the translated games, so there is no harm in buying them to leak.

>>39210463
>He will singlehandedly destroy the community and he will applaud himself as a hero.
Most people earn clout by contributing positive things - OC, fangames and other varying contributions. This fucker meanwhile is patting himself on the back for tearing down years of contributions and niche games that are no longer even available for sale. I really don't get it. The only people happy about this are resellers who are probably popping champagne right now since they'll be able to price gouge hard-to-find games through the roof, which again, the actual creator doesn't benefit from anyways.

I'm more surprised ZUN actually followed through on killing everything too given that he's seemingly not cared about any of this up until now. In his defense, I think if someone files an official DMCA complaint and it checks out, you HAVE to defend your IP and take down whatever was filed against, even if you support the project. I remember a similar story about CCP, the guys who worked on EVE, having to kill a number of mods for different games even though they liked the projects and even gave approval prior because the mnods got DMCA's filed on them or something.

But I'm no lawyer, and the problem with my guess is that I find it hard to believe nobody except this fag would try to DMCA moriya after all this time. It's inevitable times have to change, I guess.

How about learning Japanese and getting good instead of being spoonfed vandalized approximation of real experience by some worthless hack with bloated ego.

>>39211024
That's what I've been doing for the last two years. Right now I'm downloading all the raw manga I can find to make one big torrent.

>>39211041
Can you archive the translated works too?

There's a torrent for the complete Gyakuten Touhou series on nyaa, but it's barely seeded. Do anyone have that ?

>>39210960
>The games are understood by playing the games.
This is undoubtedly true. But words and videos can still have value as a way to bootstrap ones understanding of the danmaku.
I often find it helpful to break down a pattern by describing what it is doing to myself, and I also find values in other's verbal descriptions of danmaku.
These words are not the real understanding of the danmaku, so they cannot substitute playing the game, but they can help in reaching real understanding.
>>39211017
ZUN is gonna do stupid things. HakanaiBlue is gonna do stupid things. Hate the sin, not the sinner. He's still a prolific translator, so he'll be useful once we leak his games.

>>39211061
Sure.

>>39211167
thank you anon

>>39211148
Shut up, H*kanai.

>>39211101
Chapters 1 and 2 are still available on moriya

>>39211024
jokes on you i play games untranslated and i don't read printworks or doujins

>>39208069
What's interesting is one was sent last year and absolutely nothing happened. I wouldn't want to be the one to risk it, but do you think ZUN's team is content with just *sending* the DMCA to make it seem like they're protecting the IP? I never looked up how the actual process goes; especially for noncompliance.

>>39208178
>Here's a link that should be of interest to some of you
Intresting to see that this torrent have Defiant of shrine maiden in it, i thought it was long extinct fangame.
now i am curious if it actually have both expansions too.

Speaking about extinct fangames, third game of strawberry boses trilogy seems to also be really hard to find.
Genius of sappheiros, Devil of Decline and Nightmare of Rebellion.
Probably one reason is that it had DRM in it and required tinkering to bypass it.

>>39203135
The game can be pirated from here

https://steamunlocked.net/1-touhou-mystias-izakaya-free-download/

Imagine the amount of money the Chinese would be losing if you download this file 400 times

>>39211380
>Speaking about extinct fangames, third game of strawberry boses trilogy seems to also be really hard to find.
I got curious, could this work or am I retarded?
http://touhounosekai.blogspot.com/2014/02/strawberry-bose-touhou-genmu-youtan.html

>>39211452
Ah wait, it was removed already. Nevermind.

>>39211380
What on earth are you on about? Moriya's even got all of those. The real extinct thing is the Defiant of Shrine Maiden video translation, which mostly had the translations as Youtube annotations which are no longer a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydxjQDUumk
There's a Googe Doc with a translation of varying completeness for the game, but it isn't exactly wieldy

>>39203178
Some can be uploaded onto nyaa, right?

i know there is a long list of the Touhou Fangames available at

http://web.archive.org/web/20211020044903/http://doujingravity-remaster.blogspot.com/2017/06/touhou-fangames-complete-list_28.html

>>39211467
>>39211461
>>39211452
I managed to find a recently uploaded copy here on /jp/ through the archive anyway.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HK8EEMqM5T42LG9J8DefbQFs-kfAfbYf/view

>>39211555
Full post if anyone wants
>>31652504

we should probably made a google doc or something so we can actually try and compile at least a list of what we've got so far
otherwise this is going to just end up as a bunch of random anons having random cluisters of fangames

>>39211574
Well, shouldn't discourage us from taking the spoils first.
We can start with asking, how many fangames from Moriyashrine do we not have right now? That's what's mostly lacking.
OSTs and mangas are at least partially accounted for. PC98/Early Windows are already accounted for as far as I am aware.

>>39211467
I did sweep on sites like moriya, doujinstyle and such few years ago and i am prety sure only thing i found was ver 1.0 and second expansion but it also required first expansion to work which i didn't find.

Isn't moriya shrine download just 1.0?
It seems though that moriya shrine upload got updated last year though.

>>39211608
this: >>31652504 has 2.0 for DoD, 2.09 for NoR and GoS 3.1 apparently. All links still work.

>>39211636
And by that I mean the thread as a whole has them, just go into warosu or archive.moe

I'm blaming beatmario

>>39208069
Zun was never fine with piracy but he and his legal people was willing to turn a blind eye when it wasn't obvious lol. Besides his stuff isn't an issue there's always gonna be a way to get it.

>>39211608
>>39211636
Just to clarify i was talking about Defiant of shrine maiden

>>39208069
>So...with all that being said, is Moriya Shrine going to do die? Are we going to stop providing the service that we have been providing all these years?
>The answer to those questions is no.
>I am currently in the process of finding alternative means to continue to provide service to the community.
>At this point, I am not sure if I should leave it at that and not reply back. There is nothing more to say really.
Props to him for not quitting. Maybe he'd be open to some of our suggestions.

>>39211682
Oh, then there might be a problem.
>>39211700
The only logical course is hosting tools/patches on the site and offering torrents for everything else.

>>39203135
Did he really do the translation for that one? I can't seem to find anything that indicates him being the TLer for that game.

>>39211682
>>39211714
If nothing else I still have a copy of slash buster's iso sitting around somewhere

>>39211804
look for it by searching for something on the PC with the iso extension then
In Window's explorer it's easiest to do it by typing "*iso" in the search field.

I don't think this means the end of fancontent, just the end of the west using national borders as an excuse for not being able to obtain free Touhou.

However it's now on the Japanese side to make their stuff available, I don't get why ZUN doesn't want Touhou to ever go on sale on Steam or be more discoverable. I get leaving translation to us but he did the bare minimum in making it available for us and it's fucking baffling. If he wants us to support the series here it needs to be more visible. Fan content needs to be made more available on storefronts. Do something, anything.

>>39211565
What happened to the post

>>39211852
see to him putting in the effort to make the series available in the west and actually discoverable is not muh doujin spirit
but DMCA takedowns of everything and nips only selling at one convention in 2017 and never again (and then disappearing from the internet)? that's doujin spirit, baby

>>39211815
I know I can do that, it's more an issue that I don't think it's on a hard drive I have hooked up right now, and I figured one would want the iso instead of my install for archive purposes.
Nyaa might still have the torrent for it too

There's already a massive music torrent, is there a massive game+fangame torrent?

>>39211875
it's half a year old anon, use 4chanx or dump the post ID into an archive (warosu or archive.moe) to read it

>>39211803
Yeah it doesn't look like it was him, I just jumped to a conclusion in the heat of the moment.

https://twitter.com/spaztron64/status/1509179467683581954
Guy who made the PC-98 collection frontend is already working on backup ideas, so that's covered for now

>>39211931
there's an older torrent of fangames on nyaa and there's the all in one pack for the main games, but I think our collective end goal here is updating that with all the fangames we have today

>>39211955
He did the translation for that Okuu question game.

>>39211949
Oh I thought it was something more major. I figured I'd just use archives anyway.

>>39211852
I would be fine with ZUN taking down all the official games if all the official games were actually fucking available to purchase. 1-9, plus some of the TasoFro games aren't on Steam still and there's a good chance that they won't ever be.

>>39212009
Yeah, I don't get his motive for that.

>Translator set up a kofi to fund translating Defiant of Shrine Maiden before getting consent to do so
>Got scared of referring to it as crowdfunding and then changed it to donationware
>Put up a paypal and kofi anyway
Ironic.

>>39212146
Who are you quoting?

>>39212146
Someone should snitch him to ZUN.

>>39212066
Legal advice probably.

>>39212146
There's something there about some of his work being done without permission yet fiending over people using the fucking portraits for a wiki without permission, yet I can't spin it into a snarky joke...

>>39212009
Touhou 1-5 I can see ZUN looking back on them as an old shame that he wants to distance himself from, but 6 onwards is the foundation of his series he builds from. His running manga Cheating Detective Satori even expects you to be familiar with these characters and the incidents that sprung from them. I'm curious how fans (Japanese or otherwise) are suppose to know about them without easy access to official works. Do they all just learn the characters from the funny meme videos or lets plays from verified owners of physical copies on Youtube?

>>39212451
ZUN doesn't want westerners to play Touhou 6 - 9. He would have at least made an attempt to allow westerners to purchase those games legitimately. Supposedly he lost the source code for them, so they aren't going to be available - not on Steam at least.

>>39212451
The Japanese fans have easy access since physical copies of games like EoSD can be bought online for under 2000 yen. It's only 1-5 that are ludicrously expensive. And for everyone outside of Japan they're simply expected to pay the gaijin tax.

>>39203732
>>39208178
>it's actually hitting fangames
>only the most famous ones will be reliably re-upped
>outside of anons like these who'll disappear in a few years
God, I fucking hate Twitter.

>>39212516
that's why it's important that we don't let the momentum here fade and actually do get a torrent together with all the fangames

>>39212540
If that torrent does exist I'll make sure to seed it for my friends on /jp/.

>>39212540
How is the process on that going? Did we get everything yet? Hell, I'd go even one step further and try to back up the rest of the stuff like Touhou doujins because you don't know what kind of shit they'll pull next.

>>39212558
Grabbing everything from Exhentai may not be that easy, unless there's CLI for it.

>>39212540
That's true as well, it's just fucking depressing, because with every megatorrent there's people who don't have the space for all of it leading to some parts of it basically never being seeded. It's not the end-times but the fact that there's now an actual possibility for some of these things to just fade into the aether because some faggot got uppity on someone elses behalf for games they can't/won't sell to us gaijins anyways.

Doubly so since it's a translator, and 100% of translators have been pirates so there's no moral high ground for them.

>>39212516
Who quote?

The translator person is a massive hypocrite since he's friends with Asprey, a person who has done lots of videos on fangames he obviously pirates. And the PC-98 games which yeah man he bought those, I'd totally believe that.

Regardless the translator is easily one of the worst people involved in this. While ZUN is selling out, at least he made the games himself. The translator is going out if his way to destroy archives of niche shit for the worst reasons that you can see in his other tweets, talking about how it's "unfair to people who bought it" and to "just buy used copies which are insane prices that I happen to own". You can't reason with these kinds of people. He doesn't operate on a rational level like others. For him, the original devs getting momey isn't his concern. For him, other people being able to experience it isn't a concern (ironic considering he has a tweet complaining about gatekeeping lmao). For him, he's the worst kind of collector. Where it is not enough for him to own something, but imperative to deprive others he deems not worthy of it. You hear about these people all the time. European collectors who pay poor slavs and gypsys to roam markets and purchase rare games they own amd destroy them, so their copy becomes rarer. Japanese collectors of rare prototypes that destroy them because the idea of anyone else knowing it's secrets breaks them.

Piracy is archival whether people like it or not, and archival is one of the most vital things a person who loves media can do. In this modern age, where copying things is easy as is distributing it, there's no excuse for things becoming lost to time, no reason. Yet it's because of people like this translator that stuff sometimes falls through the cracks. People of the future will lose out just so people like this guy can feel special because his CD (prone to CD rot) went up $5 in resale value.

Hakanai, I don't have a twitter nor the desire to enter your discord which I'm sure is filled with underage idolizers who have put their faith in the wrong person, but I really wish I could send this message to you; you're a scummy selfish person and it's due to people like you there are so many lost movies, books, games, and prototypes. Any good you think you've done is counteracted by gatekeeping and trying to snuff out rare copies of old Touhou media, all for petty personal gain. You're probably not a religious person so read "The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard". While it focuses on religious conversion, it's lessons on destructive jealousy easily apply to your warped "think of the poor collectors" mentality.

For everyone else, keep the tapes circulating.

>>39212568
That's what I was thinking plus Dynasty doesn't let you download everything at once, which is why it is better to get a head start before they pull another purge and while the Moriya mania is still at an all time high.

>>39212558
>>39212568
Isn't the general archival project still ongoing for the panda? If it is, you can just throw a buncha doujins in there, I'm pretty sure it has a check for dupes.

>>39212595
>For him, the original devs getting money isn't his concern.
This is all it is and all it will ever be, but the fact that people like this can pat themselves on the back for it is shameful.

It's even worse than that shithead who stole a song from Shibuya Records, profited off of it, and only asked them for permission to literally use their entire song but slowed down 25% as a backing for their shitty meme song, getting away with it because it incorporated other copyrighted shit so they were in 0 position to be able to say "take it down" in the first place.

>>39211148
Nothing you say will save you now H*kanai, everyone here hates you now.

>>39212711
He still has a good standing with the Japanese side, which is what he's mainly concerned about businesswise and socialwise. Not like he particularly cares about the thoughts of random /jp/ anons.

>>39203170
>>39212540
How's the progress on those? I may be able to help. I'm gonna start downloading the fangames in the RPG, SRPG and RTS sections of moriyashrine in the meantime just in case.

The real question is why would someone do this for fucking Touhou, of all things? The game translation community is so small I could name dozens of people off the top of my head even excluding anons and all this guys done is excommunicate himself. And that stuff goes really really far when an entire communities translators talk behind the scenes to keep you from getting jobs, which spreads to other communities, and next thing you know you're stuck translating shitty isekai anime for Yet Another Simulpubber That Doesn't Pay Translators for the next 10 years of your life.

On the topic of lost fangames, would anyone happen to have a copy of "Mogu Mogu Rumia"? I can't find any links for it, and the most recent results on archives are from 2014 for /jp/ and 2016 for /v/, both of which are complaining about how all the download links for the game are broken. I've seen a copy of it on Ebay so worst case scenario I could buy it, but I figured I'd ask just in case

>>39212781
He wants to become /the/ translator for Touhou doujin content. Establish himself, then get paid off of people that will barely sell any games to the West. He set a goal for a few thousand dollars in donations to fund a translation in the past. It's just about money and filling a niche market.

>>39212772
I have all the Platformers and all the Shooters except for this one as the download does not work https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/654-touhou-dreaming-butterfly-%E4%B8%9C%E6%96%B9%E8%9D%B6%E6%A2%A6%E5%BF%97/
I would prefer someone else also downloads these as If I ever need to upload them it will take days as my internet is terrible.

>>39212595
"Perhaps on the rare occasion pursuing the right course demands an act of piracy, piracy itself can be the right course?"
Pirates of the Caribbean - Curse of the Black Pearl (2001)

if someone makes another thread, link back to this thread (and probably the thread before this too because I think some links were posted there)

>>39212859
Yeah I was just about to say, this needs to be an ongoing effort

>>39212859
Call it the "Touhou Archival Project" or something

>>39212781
He propably thinks having contact with one japanese fangame dev is enough to make him an "official" translator rather than a dirty fan translator and would get his pick what to work on next.
Failing to understand that the japs will not take his offer to make "official" translations and will just take their stuff down so the 5 people in japan who know how to torrent have a harder time doing it or just to spite the filthy gaijin.

>>39212859
I'd rather it not be that easy to track, lest Blue get his grubby fingers onto it. If you're a /jp/sie you can check the catalog for it.

>>39212898
What can that twat do against torrents?

>>39212883
>"Touhou Archival Project"
yeah that would be a good name.

>>39212918
>>39212883
Personally I prefer Gensokyo Archival Project because GAP is a much catchier acronym, but it could lead to confusion.

>>39212898
Once it's on torrents snitches won't be able to do shit. Biggest risks right now is anons giving up half-way through the hoarding process.

>>39212917
You know what, yeah you're right.

>>39212932
Seconding this.

>>39212932
Yeah, go for this.

>>39212932
GAP is cute, accurate and fitting.

>>39212917
I don't know anything about torrents. Worst case scenario, what is the most damage anyone can do to a torrent?

>>39212932
>Lead to confusion
With how things are right now, less eyes on fan driven activities like this is what we need.
>>39212934
Can some of the anons who have the full catalog of whatever genre make torrents as soon as possible? Later there can also be an all-in-one package.

>>39212960
not seeding it is a crime

Are there any fangames you guys are missing?

>>39212932
Nah, GAP absolutely works.

>>39212932
Good name

this has inspired me to assemble parts from an old gaming pc for a seedbox

>>39212963
You can exclude which files you download through a torrent. This should be made clear before downloading honestly.

Moriya Shrine should have just used torrents from the get-go. But I suppose the admin thought that no one would ever bother DMCAing a bunch of doujin stuff.

>>39212932
>>39212932
good idea

>>39212960
Absolutely nothing. Only exception is if you live in Japan and don't use a VPN.

>>39212960
The worst they can do is send angry letters to your ISP, but if you have a VPN that's mostly solved

>>39213002
It's more so just to get seeding started right now rather than waiting for those who are downloading to finish up. But that's also important for those new to torrents to know about.
>>39212998
Same, I actually took out my Pi from the dusty drawer kek

>>39212815
Found this on some chinese forum. Could be just a trial version but it's better than nothing.
https://workupload.com/file/qBkUMFEVH6v
Thanks for reminding me about this game, by the way. I looked for it before but simply gave up.

>>39213005
I'd be shocked if there wasn't a torrent leak that coincidentally has everything they've ever hosted leaked at some point.

>>39213046
See >>39208178 for a good start. Doesn't have everything but hopefully anons can help in.

>>39213046
They might be preparing something like that themselves, who knows. The site owner says he's worked on hundreds of sites so getting seeding going probably isn't an issue and Moriyashrine is a well-known site so they'd get new seeders too.

>>39213044
If it's the version that was originally on hakudenkai it should be the full thing, game's not really big

>>39213044
It's a slightly different filesize from the trial version which can be found here
http://totupura.sakura.ne.jp/mmr/mmr.html
so maybe it's the full thing. I'll give it a DL and check it out

post mental gymnastics
btw: different person than the translator

>>39213194
forgot pic

>>39208178
>Gensou no Keifu - Hajimari no Miko
I have that one saved along with it's translation. The translation was pretty recent IIRC (from 2020), so I doubt the torrent one has it translated. I'll upload it in a bit if you like.
Though sadly I didn't get any of the other ones from Chiiyudou's circle.

>>39213044
Yeah, this one's just a trial. Thank you for trying though.

>>39213208
He says it's going to be better, but doesn't say why.
And as this thread shows, pissing off your fans for no reason and giving them absolutely nothing in return doesn't stop piracy.

>>39213208
>tldr give money

>>39213210
https://workupload.com/file/jpfxQ4vzsFh
Done.

I just want to selfishly point out, using this opportunity, that the full translation patch for CtC is lost. The moriya copy only had an older version of the patch that did not have the endings, music comments, or a lot of flavor text. The complete and updated translation patch's google docs link went private. Hence it would be critical for anyone who has this patch or a completed patched copy of CtC to upload it.

>>39212890
>Leader in modern technology and innovations
>Only like 5 wierdos in the country actually torrent
Why?

>>39213426
It brings dishonor upon the family name

>>39213426
Police stste

>>39213426
My guess is that they're heavily rooted in tradition and their old ways.
>>39213421
So what else are we at risk of/have already lost to time? Is there a list?

https://archive.org/create/

>>39213534
It asks for a login by the way.

>>39213426
Torrents shows IP address.
>VPN
I bet they have restrictions against that.

>>39213421
Out of all things, CtC is not what I expected to be theoretically lost to time.

>>39213653
>>39213421
CtC is available on GitHub apparently.
He is the guy who has the english patch in a google drive. Maybe you can ask him.
https://github.com/danmaq
https://github.com/danmaq/touhou-ctc-danmakufu/releases
He updated recently so he's probably not unavailable.

>>39213711
Also I know it's just an unofficial patch, but it might still be worthwhile asking.

>>39212815
I found it on another chinese forum but it requires a chinese passport to even register.
http://www.7yzone.com/thread-200822-1-1.html
The thread's so recent, too. It's mocking me.

>>39213876
>it requires a chinese passport to even register.
An impressive level of gatekeeping. Maybe we should beg around until we encounter someone who is or is close to someone else who's Chinese to download it.

>>39212815
>>39213876
I found this after some zealous application of my chinese skills
http://155384.co/thread-53139-1-1.html
From the japanese bits it suggests it's a trial version but that's as far as I could find. A chinese forum post in 2012 was asking whether there was a full version yet which might imply that the full version was not released concurrently with the trial, or indeed was never released at all.

http://155384.co/forum-140-1.html
This is the touhou doujin game section of the same website and afaik none of their downloads require an account, so it may be useful for those looking for unobtainium fangames.

Though Moriyashrine seems to have plans, I don't think we should give up on archiving old stuff. It's important work to get it into the space of torrents so it doesn't get lost.

Why does Genso Wanderer -Reloaded- have to be 10gb? Its going to take me forever to download.

>>39214145
It needs 10gb to store all the cute girls

>>39214115
Is there any torrent with the stuff salvaged from there yet?

>>39214112
That's where I got >>39213044 from. There was also yet another chink forum that I managed to register for, but the site it linked to got megaupload'd in 2016.
What hurts my soul the most is that the game was apparently up on Moriya at some point, now it's gone without a trace. Maybe it didn't have enough downloads so one day they quietly deleted it.

>>39214145
It got a lot of music

>>39214145
Full voice acting + music + art + relatively high budget for a fangame.
It was being sold at like 50 bucks on Steam on release from what I remember too.

Fuuuuuck. I thought I was onto something. We better get on with the rest of them while we can.

>>39214145
Yeah, I didn't even bother downloading that because of the size and the fact that it's up on Steam

>>39214160
nothing quite yet

>>39213421
did some digging, same patch file in that google docs here CtCEnglish_0_7214.7z
https://workupload.com/file/AvhGDYargVv

>>39214359
Very nice.
>>39214331
We should start putting out full lists of what we got so one of us can grab it and make a torrent out of it.

>>39203064
so are people gonna doxx this faggot or what

>>39214852
Why don't you do it?

>385
should I read the thread?

>>39214968
If you want to know about the latest drama and the reasons behind it then yes.

On top of doing a torrent, consider trying IPFS as well. The hentai games general on /vg/ has a large list of downloads using it and it seems pretty decent.

>>39203064
>fangame translator
And of fucking course, the rat's only into it because he directly benefits from it. I hope he suffers from heavy dilation issues soon enough.

>>39215063
I have been thinking of it as well, have both a VPS and servers at home that can do so. It's just troublesome if it becomes big enough that another DMCA attempts to happen again and it's under a name.

>>39202969
>>39203064
>A translator-for-hire enters the community, starts asking around about usage rights, gets one of the many easily restorable mirrors shut down, becomes the only person who can benefit from this, and finds a way to shame the community for not buying it? What a shocker!
Thank you someone on twitter for basically tl;dring the situation and showing that the dude is also a newfag to Touhou. How the fuck has the gatekeeping failed so hard that things got to this point?

>>39215034
I never liked the games all being in one place.
Half the time they didn't even work so I just didn't download them.
I fucking told you all to back up the games as they came in the first thread. Why scramble now?

Now that I think about it, we've had a loss music collection of nearly every Touhou arrange that ever made it into the internet for ages. What took people so long that having the same for 2hu's enormous amount of doujin games wouldn't be just as good of an idea?

>>39215150
People are scrambling because we're realizing that most people hadn't been backing them up, and that some of these games have had under 100 people download them over the course of years so there's the fear that if they're removed that they could be lost forever.
Whatever gets people to start taking data preservation seriously again is a good thing in my books.

>>39215179
>Whatever gets people to start taking data preservation seriously again is a good thing in my books.
It only took a few years, but I agree.

Maybe this C&D is a message to you all to actually create something.

Just food for thought.

The other thread that is currently up is for shitposting teenbros and arguing about copyrights, so once this one dies, we should make a new one where we can continue discussing what to do next.

>>39215150
I take it you didn't visit /h/ when the panda was dying. People archiving or not archiving things over the course of countless years isn't the issue; it's getting people to actually be around and know of any archival processes in the first place. And that's widely spanning hentai as an example, how many copies of Shanghai.EXE's latest builds? are on computers compared to say PDP or any of Aquastyles games?

What do I seed? Is there a comprehensive torrent yet?

>>39215692
yes, it is called compherensive touhou torrent.