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Both are shit.

Both are bad compared to Umineko soundtrack.

>>3915593
Doesn't matter, it is getting replaced one way or another with the PS2 soon.
Some anon also reported that instead of getting variation, a single track is being used to replace 2tracks.

UI - hacked
Font - hacked
Sprites/background/bgm - in progress

Both are terrible.

English>Japanese

>>3915603
My dick is hard in anticipation.

>>3915603
Font hack where?

UI hack is retarded but you know, whatever man

>>3915603
Man I'm waiting for this.

>>3915603
I'm that anon.
It's not one track only. Various tracks are repetitions. Mion and Rena no longer have custom themes, they use the generic "feel good" bgm who also sounds in a lot of other places. More tracks are duplicated too, when they shouldn't. By what I'm seeing the game soundtrack has been cut by half, at least.
I'm working on a "patch", but the brick wall I'm hitting is this:
futagotachi demo uses the same bgm order as mangagamer tracks (which don't have names, they're just numbered), so replacing them is easy as pie.
The problem I need the same numbering for the tracks for chapters 2-4, but the original japanese game just has the tracks in alphabetical order, with names. This doesn't match the order MG uses. But I suspect, somehow the original game uses the same order, internally, but I don't know how to find out. It's maybe in the script somewhere. Or probably matches the music box order? but I can't access the music box because I'd had to unlock everything and I've yet to play further than chapter 2. Can someone with the music box unlocked in the original japanese game post the track order?
Please, help me with this!

>>3915646
There's no music box

>>music box unlocked in the original japanese game

Reading comprehension anon

>>3915663
There is in the original version.

>>3915646
Have you tried the following order? (From the Japanese Higurashi script):
1.mp3
2.mp3
3.mp3
4.mp3
5.mp3
6.mp3
7.mp3
8.mp3
9.mp3
10.mp3
Giwaku2.mp3
gear.mp3
dawn.mp3
mds2.mp3
fascism.mp3
rainy.mp3
dancers1.mp3
dancers7.mp3
snow3.mp3
snow4.mp3
sunrise.mp3
Tell a thing.mp3
lie.mp3
heigen2gm.mp3
med1.mp3
child3.mp3
dancers5.mp3
Rena.mp3
Mion.mp3
Satoko.mp3
Rika.mp3
I think the script version and BGM naming version don't match up, though, as 10.mp3 isn't present in the BGMs and A5_06198 isn't used, and stuff like that.

>>3915700
No, in the ORIGINAL version, there is no "music box". The music box was only included in the re-release.

Not in folder:
10.mp3

Not in list:
A5_06198.MP3
A7_06056.MP3
BG01002A.MP3
BGM02.MP3
BGM02_2.MP3
BGM05.MP3
FOLDED.MP3
VOICES.MP3

List contains 31 tracks; folder contains 38 tracks. Higurashi English folder contains 36 tracks, but mixed environmental sound effects with the music in the original archive.

>>3915717
Er, to avoid confusion, the 36 tracks are excluding the environmental sound effects.

>>3915717
I think you have a different version than mine, for example I don't have a 10.mp3 track. How did you look into your higurashi script to find the track list? maybe my version is closer to MG (still, different music, so in total we have 3 different soundtracks...)

>>3915750
Never mind that, I found the list. I didn't understand you well before. So you don't have a 10.mp3 either... but I don't have stuff like "A5_06198" anywhere, so it must still be different.

Samefag for the third time here.

Here's a list that matches Mangagamer more.

1.mp3
2.mp3
3.mp3
...
10.mp3 (missing in Mangagamer release too)
11 - Higurasi.wav
12- Semi.wav
13 - Yoru.wav
14 - Tip.wav
15 - Giwaku2.mp3
16 - Semi_R.wav
17 - gear.mp3
18 - dawn.mp3
19 - mds2.mp3
20 - fascism.mp3
21 - rainy.mp3
22 - dancers1.mp3
23 - dancers7.mp3
24 - snow3.mp3
25 - snow4.mp3
26 - sunrise.mp3
27 - Tell a thing.mp3
28 - lie.mp3
29 - heigen2gm.mp3
30 - med1.mp3
31 - child3.mp3
32 - dancers5.mp3

51 - Rena.mp3
52 - Mion.mp3
53 - Satoko.mp3
54 - Rika.mp3

Okay, after testing the list I posted, I think it positively matches with Mangagamer's track list. It should be a matter of converting to ogg and then to BGI ogg.

Then, I have a request. Does somebody have a link to the original soundtrack, before the rerelease? I only have the latter and the original up to chapter 1 (the demo). It'd be nice if we could have 2 patches to choose between.

By the way, thanks VDZ, at least one person is trying to help.

>>3915837
I had it in my other PC, sorry I'd like to help

>>3915837

I'd like to help if I could. Sadly, I can't.

Bumping this.

Changing the sprites is actually pretty easy, I've just tried and it worked perfectly. I don't have the Higurashi ps2 sprites and Kanon's happened to be there, so this is the result.

Just wanted to say, thanks OP for uploading.

>>3915985
can't you help the guy who's doing the sprite patch?

The guy with the sprites post a link to them so they can be worked on

>>3916013
I don't have them so not right now. As I said it's not complicated but replacing all the sprites would be tedious, I pity the poor guy (unless he's more knowledgeable and capable of doing it faster).

>>3916047
Can the sceneries be changed too?

i also managed to replace the sprites, pic related

http://www.mediafire.com/?lnj5oddgizd

just extract this into the folder where the data***.arc files are and play a a scene with rena


but, to get the ps2 sprites you probably would have to match up all the filenames for about 1100 images
boring work (unless they're somehow named the same)

>>3916057
Yes.

>>3916057
do you mean the backgrounds?

if so, then yes you can change them like you change the sprites

>>3916065
I just died a little inside.

>>3916074
don't like cirno?

>>3916071
I don't really mind them though, I've gotten used to them thx to Umineko and they're real so they're fine, the only prblem is SAUSAGEFINGERS, in Umineko at least people resemble human beings

>>3916117
He still needs to learn how to draw legs and feet jesus christ.

>>3916127
Legs are not really important, you don't even see them in most VNs because there's no full sprite

>>3916139
Ok, he still needs to polish his hand design though.

>>3916178
I'd say he has improved a lot in that department

>>3916185
You are now imagining Battler with sausage fingers.

>>3916178
But they HAVE defined Fingers, also it looks cool, just think it's in perspective and the fingers gets closer to you

>>3916195
>defined fingers

>>3916282
At LEATS they have some kind of, in Hugirashi they're just gloves, and admit it, Ryu has improved a lot since Higurashi

>>3916344
Shit being a bit less greenish and smelly does not mean that much.

>>3916352
It means, if he improves at a constant rate, that means he may draw normal next game (on Tsukihime lvl, he's quite close now)

>>3916376
Your standards are questionable, and your optimism is commendable.
You know what would be even better?
Use some cash to hire a guy or command crazy devoted fan with an ounce of talent to do the artwork.

>>3916178
I have no excuse for this.

>>3916386
He has to use that money on kick ass music, plus he isn't that bad now. Umineko's art is within an acceptable range so why give a fuck? Plus I bet Ryu enjoys doing the drawings himself.

>>3916386
He has to use that money on a kickass soundtrack. His artwork is within an acceptable range so why really give a fuck if he enjoys drawing for it? He's only going to get better at this point since he isn't Zun.

>>3916401
No, it's NOT on an acceptable range, hence the 'questionable standards'.
And whether he loves it or not, there is one thing I can hope for to actually improve considerably.
His problems with writing are improbable to change or vanish, the music is fine, so artwork it is.

>>3916411
>No, it's NOT on an acceptable range
Sure it is.

>>3916416
Did you actually tolerate the Spice Girls too or something?

>>3916421
Well that's one of the most far-fetched strawman arguments I've seen in a long while, gotta give you that.

>>3916428
I'm just trying to ascertain if you are an angel that tolerates all of mankind's sins on Earth.

>>3916411
The main point in his works are story focused with music to provide a suitable atmosphere. His artwork takes a backseat to all of this, and I think he is progressing quite nicely for someone who mostly writes a majority of the time.

>>3916407
I wonder if we gave Ryu enough beer would he draw better

>>3916428
That's not a strawman argument.
Spice Girls are bad. This is common knowledge in boxing.
Anybody who likes Spice Girls has questionable standards. This is also common knowledge in boxing. QED

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

>>3916434
Most VN that are not sex romps rely on plot, or atmosphere, or character dynamics etc.
I'm hard pressed to find another one, commercial or doujin, with so fucking bad sprites.
Just getting them a bit thinner and sausage fingers instead of boxing gloves is not the greatest leap ever.

>>3916430
If I say yes, you get confirmation that you're right. If I say no, I'm accepting that the art in Umineko is a sin.

I'm not sure. Guess that's some sort of an ad hominem, it's not quite a loaded question. Forgive me, I haven't really studied on the subject of logical fallacies.

okay guys, I finished the music patch, check this thread (let's concentrate tweaking discussion there please)
>>3916472

>>3916476
There are varying levels of sin.
Umineko is a low one (the main problem is higurashi).
Tolerating Spice Girls is 2 levels before being the fucking Buddha.
I got curious to see how far you can go.

i'm hoping for a sprite patch just like most people here but

it's a sound novel. it's not really that surprising that little work was put on the original sprites. that wasn't the focus. ryukishi has improved since higurashi and i hope he continues to improve since higurashi is ugly as fuck all. but i don't think it takes away from the game too much.

I always end up reading VDZ as VD. Enjoy your venereal disease, not that I have a problem with you, just felt like mentioning it. ಠ_ಠ

>>3916489
I don't regard the art in Umineko a sin and I don't think you are right, so I can't answer your question regardless of how obvious the answer is. Spice Girls have nothing to do with Umineko.

>>3916505
I never said they are related.
You missed the point.
And sin or no, Umineko's art is still bad

>>3916510
Umineko art isn't horrible, it's better than K-ON.

>>3916489
Might I ask what is the level of Buddha of Toleration?

>>3916510
And you missed mine. Ask me again when you've got a question that's not a blatant logical fallacy.

>>3916517
An example would be watching the Spice girls movie twice in a row or doing a non-stop playthrough of Superman 64.
Or read a couple scat doujins while eating and show no concern (ir you are a sick fuck that enjoys this you are disqualified anyway)

>>3916529
Do YOU tolerate spice Girls?
That's the question from the start.
What conclusions I draw are mine alone.

>>3916539
I wrote currypasta while eating, am I buddha?

>>3916552
Nah. You are just a deviant.

>>3916545
>What conclusions I draw are mine alone.
Exactly what's the problem here.

>>3916539
What about a 2hr marathon of Barney while watching my sister?

>>3916591
You cannot be afraid of stating anything due to what people may think of you with their weird logic.
Your trip alone has made me conclude various things.

>>3916608
Depends on the sister and your ages.

>>3916608
That's not that bad.
I used to go to the Barney Show over at Universal everytime I went there.
Until I reached 14 or so.

>>3916613
Neither way I could answer your question about tolerating Spice Girls could in any way be advantageous to me, only to you, therefore I refuse to answer it at all. Conclude what you may, the art in Umineko is still within acceptable levels to me.

>>3916646
...You really over-think this, since I gain absolutely nothing.
To conclude, Umineko art is bad and you should feel bad for considering it acceptable. There.

>>3916665
Fine. Let me leave you with a parting gift. You should Google this game, it's a smash hit in /v/.

>>3916665
Umineko art is good.

>>3916680
This being the Internet, you do not have to keep a straight face while typing this.

R07 art, so good

>>3916698
Umineko art is good, and you should feel bad for not liking it.

>>3916778
Do your ribs hurt as much as mine do?

>implying Umineko's art isn't awesome

>>3916784
Stop making fun of my favorite VN artist's art!

>>3916788
I thought I was rather straightforward.

>>3916795
HHHHHNNNGGGHH

Umineko art:

Ugly midget bodies.
Fucking awesome faces.
Embarassing clothes.

Being a VN, faces are top priority. So R07 art is good.

>>3916778
>Higurashi art is good, and you should feel bad for not liking it.

>>3916817
And DEM FANGS

>>3916817
Ridiculous expressions that resemble the Mario face from SM 6 when you stretch it are not awesome, rather ludicrous.
Especially when they cry.

>>3916835
Fuck you man, fuck.

>>3916835
>not awesome

>>3916835
when they cry, i want to lick their delcious tears. mmmm

>>3916843
Im sorry nack, but i think both are equally good, considering they are giving us something to look at while story goes. They both have interesting expressions and are good series of mystery novels.

So yea i like them both, and so should you.

>>3916871
Who said I didn't like both?

>>3916884
It goes to most people in this thread. I just dont want that this thread becomes some unimeko vs hurugashi war. They are both made by same people but they are far from similar.

>>3916900
Your reading comprehension sucks balls.

>>3916903
Ironically i hear that most of times ;_;

>>3916935
Don't abuse the word "ironically."
You don't know what it means.

>>3916943
...because your reading comprehension sucks!

Soo, how long until we get a good Matsuri patch? I'm sure there is SOME anon out there who has the patience to do so. (and god knows he has all the time in the world)

Well if we can get organized and divide up the work it would be easy.

>>3918063
What needs to be divided up? And how could I help?

>>3918556
By downloading the pack of about 1100 images, taking a part of it, matching it up with the sprites in the MangaGamer game and renaming them to have the same name as the ones in the MangaGamer version.

>>3918748
So all the sprites HAVE been extracted? They just need renamed? If that is the case point me in the right direction and I will start from the end and work my way back.