/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>the rumors about Akipo's sister being her only friend in Uni were true
I, I want to be her friend too
would you be chuke's friend, anon?

>>39095639
No

Kinozaka is back, baby!

>>39095670
you skelly bastard

Enpika!

General reminder: Anyone who:
>talks about Nogizaka = schizo
>talks about Sakurazaka = showderp / T
>talks about Hinatazaka = Meispammer / T
>talks about Sakuhina = sakuhina fags
>talks about NogiSakuHina = "the one who loves all 3 groups"

The Keyaki chuuni really had a hard time being told that kpop was more kino.

>>39095750
Best nickname

>Keyaki chuuni
Who is that?

>>39096133
The retard that posts something along the lines of "kino is back" with some cliched and poorly produced clip from the group.

>>39096166
So schizo then. Thanks.

>>39095849
RV would be kino if they made Irene bullying poor workers or Seulgi being a lesbo into some ludic piece that said something at all instead of doing vapid Tim Burton + Wes Anderson aesthetic mixed with music that uses more free samples than original compositions.
Aespa is already kinoer.

>>39096177
What the hell?

>>39096177
Irene did nothing wrong.

>>39096177
Irene did nothing wrong.

Our schizo might be one, but his message was what came to be.

>>39096405
Nobody cares.

Hoping for a nice and peaceful thread

>>39096435
Nobody's fault

>>39096444
Thanks for jinxing it.

That okamoto girl that got kicked is saying bad things about Nao

>>39096539
It was such a smart decision not to do showroom auditions - said no one ever.

>>39096573
>Kakki looks worse
how?

>>39096573
Genki's good looks are gone forever

>>39096573
Kitagawer looked like she was tweaking on powder

Redpill me on this Okamoto girl.

>>39096725
wait a second
that's, that's not Runrun!

https://youtu.be/xn0tGfHdSLc

>>39096771
>Currently dating a handicapped Nigerian called Nissy
>Spend time with him during the 5ki omitekai
>Hates her senpai
>Hates her gen members too http://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1506242359834513408/pu/vid/852x480/7BVgLg6ioxUUPt_y.mp4
Basically a bitch that makes Aruno look like an angel

>>39096771
she is an actual bitch, aruno was just makiing edgy comments anonymously on the net, okamoto is talking shit about other members

need more Chiba girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtSzlHqyWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL0briLCKCA

>>39096827
Nissy is a member from that AAA avex group, she dates some random tiktoker ikemen.

https://youtu.be/Qp2bFAe_X0s

>>39097145
>Hey anon! we have been waiting for you, please take a sit
Where would you sit? note that Nacho's ass take 2 seats.

>>39097145
Comfy hours are here

>>39097204
Kono, gotta bully her

>>39097204
i tell kyonko to move her ramen ass to make room for me. if she tries to get me to sit by the window, i smack her upside her ramen head

>>39096573
Kakki went from shy homely girl to a goddess very fast

>>39096359
Irene!

>>39096539
It's 100% over for Okamoto, Marin was fired from NMB for the very same reason, this is not something you can recover from

>>39097204
>no Suzy in sight
Miho it is then!

>>39096827
This is your brain on 2ch

>>39096802
what do you mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StIS-h9IQoQ
Kakki is the best 4ki, it's proven

>>39096827
>Hates her gen members too http://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1506242359834513408/pu/vid/852x480/7BVgLg6ioxUUPt_y.mp4

Damn i can feel the heavy energy from here

>>39097453
That's like saying that the sky is blue

>>39097458
Damn she's hot

>>39097466
Sorry but some time it is necessary to state the obvious.

>>39097440
NOT our Runrun

>>39097458
She is friends with Ioki but if that image is anything to go by she hates Tomisato

>>39096870
>>39096827
She really is the worst. Aruno isn't nearly as bad in comparison

I'm calling it a night but if any good Okamoto pics emerges from the internet tag @ me

I'm just here for comfy hours because that's all I care about.

>>39097588
Oh good, I can post right now since they are done with the fighting.

>>39096827
>makes Aruno look like an angel
>>39097545
>Aruno isn't nearly as bad in comparison
Han, she's a bitch as well. She's even worse than Okamoto in some way since, unlike her, there is still a high chance she's gonna remain in the group after the hiatus, despite all the damage she's done.

>>39097648
>Han
*Nah, lel

the damage has been done by faggot detectives, Aruno just did what every well-mannered teenage girl does: shit on harajuku niggers

>>39097588
comfy gang we outchea

>>39097690
I still say it was that Aruno + her backup dancers choreography plus the short hair. It made everyone think it was Techi all over again and the wotas were looking for anything to take her down. She naturally had plenty to find.

>>39097690
In the idol industry, only one thing will determine whether she stays or goes: the wotas/fans in Nipponland.

>>39097705
Indeed indeed.

give me a link to teresa's documentary please

>>39097690
>shit on harajuku niggers
That's a lie, her biggest fans are from Chad, they even sent her a birthday wish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXz3OFPaH8M

>>39097629
T
>>/jp/thread/S38114193#p38120225

>>39097779
based negroes of non-american variety

For the anon still calling me T, just so you know I do not hate you (whether you are the Seira anon or not) but please know the difference between me and that showderp anon.

>>39097648
>all the damage she's done
This argument is always amazing since the ones that caused damage and spread shit are mostly nogifans themselves doing it to their own group, added up to the staff incompetence.
Japanese are very good at guilt-tripping so it could work though.

>>39097648
Aruno literally just made some edgy jokes and said that she hated women that use their PMS for attention. This bitch is happy that her gen mate was exposed to covid and missed the omitatekai

>>39097864
Then it all depends on whether she stays or goes and based on her appearance in the MV for 5ki and the promos, she is staying.

>>39097145
I'm sitting next to Tenshi

>>39097883
Lousy argument. They had announced the release date and didn't have time to reprint anything. If she had been doing new appearances it would've been a stronger case. But the speed hiatus meme didn't happen.

>>39097875
Aruno also said that Nogizaka is a shitty group and its members are average, if It was up to me I'd fire both.

In other news Satsuki

>Why yes, I only follow Hinatazaka46

>>39097781
Dude showderp is gone. Give it a rest.

>>39097939
SATSUKI-CHAAAN!!

>>39097944
Not convinced on an anonymous imageboard. Sorry.

>>39097912
I hear you. I guess I will wait and see for myself.

>>39097949
My god you have a serious problem.

>>39097952
Heck I expected it to be the speed hiatus with her back maybe by last week, so I'm as surprised as everyone else

>>39097781
>>39097860
>>39097944
>>39097949
>>39097961
Posts hidden. Next.

>>39097971
This app is crazy.

>>39097912
Besides the MV other stuff also points to her coming back, they basically said the group was waiting for her in that stream last sunday, how different her and Okamoto's hiatus announcements were, and the bunshun insider saying her hiatus would be 1 month~ long.

>>39097980
what app?

>>39097980
Leave the Mei anon alone, please.

>>39097990
>>/jp/thread/38661274#p38670224

>>39097943
Based

Yo at this rate I'm just going to tag every off-topic post and have the janny deal with this. I start or join one conversation and these damn thread personalities just get in the freaking way of everything. Can you just shut up already and take your rubbish outside of the board?

>>39097204
right between miipan and nano

>>39098017
The filter list doesn't work at all times since they are now posting without replying to each other. I am using the "report-off-topic" option and then I hide the rest so we should continue to do that when they post.

Renaa roke later today

>>39098017
>>39098039
I sent you Private Messages (check Spam folder if you don't see it right away).

Don't reply from now now. Just hide all off-topic posts and continue. If the replies are from trolls end the conversation there until a janitor deals with that IP address.

>>39098073
OK, thanks.

>>39097943

The /Sakag/ Trifecta of Idols that makes anons seethe.

The threads have reached critical levels of seething due to everyone accusing everyone that they are a troll against their oshi - thus the threads are serving their purpose well.

Here are your thread celebrities and enjoy. Let the rage and idol battles begin.

>>39098100
I love you Kato Shiho

>>39098134

>>39098073
Also, during cooldown hours or when the latest Sakamichi news is reported, once discussions come up, Keep it civil among us. Once you are not a thread personality intended on trolling, we will know who means to keep things civil and who is trolling.

>>39098157
Thanks. I really am just sick and tired of all this garbage archives, fake laughter and anons calling out T and schizo.

>>39098134

>>39098157
Reported for lies and slander. These were all your comments. You are your own worst enemy.

>>39098041
That is a cute outfit, Renaa

>>39098180
Whatever.

>>39098041
more idols should dress like this, literally just normal clothes

>>39098216
>just normal clothes
nigga she looks halfway towards dolores umbridge in that

>>39098216
what idols wear strange clothes?

>>39098041
Rena is a cutie

>>39098242
Almost everyone

>>39098260
thats just cos 80% of japanese girls in their age wear such "weird" clothes

This general is a good case study on how idol fans use their idols as avatars, caring more about the idol image and how it relates to their own personality and insecurities than literally caring about the idol human being and her activities.
It's also aggravated by how they mostly can't speak japanese, so aren't able to properly be on par with what is happening in real-time, making them rely even more on the visual aspect than anything else.
This dynamic also works as a power fantasy, like how Nogifags act like the fans themselves are the bijins on the top of the game so they can laugh at anyone who is under them, or like Keyafags tried to look down on other people since Keya was supposedly more sophisticated/deep than other idol groups.

It's the same behavior body dysmorphia or trans people act and feel, they are not satisfied with who they are, so they end up transitioning or making medical procedures to become more true to who their reprimanded ideal. In the case of avatarfags, it's using the idol image as a representation of who they wish they were, be it on status, looks, or who they wish they could have an "ideal" relationship with. So yeah, "schizo" is a form of a "T", they are both one and the same.

>>39098216
never go full KTK

>>39098260
Is this supposed to be an example? Its a kitchsy looking sweater but it looks comfy and pretty normal. I wouldn't bat an eye at someone wearing this

>>39098290
I come here solely to talk about their MC

>>39098290
I am not reading all that, LOL.

>>39098290

>>39098352
Still under busu. Begone!

>Keya was supposedly more sophisticated/deep than other idol groups
I will admit to being in the thread to read this since I'm about to leave work. Even I admitted in the last thread that Keyakizaka is dead, but I am not looking down on anyone here. It's just funposting from me and that's it.

>>39098290
I. Could. Care. Less. About. All. That.

>>39098365
I for one would really appreciate it if you could turn it down a notch. You made your point with schizo and the general itself, please.

Reno
Still
Busu

>>39098385
Ok, I will try to be submissive.

>>39098409
Kek

>>39098403
Nice, schizo, but that ain't me.
>>39098385
I have no intention of stopping until you all learn to accept that things should not be taken seriously on an ANONYMOUS imageboard. You take what you get.

>>39098418
Not him, but you have too many enemies here.

>>39098418
Guess that's that.

>>39098442
Nice try, T. Be submissive.

>>39098308
What about

>>39098459
Fashionable bijins!

>>39098242

>>39098242

Me on the left

>>39098538
MIHOTEA!!

What's she signaling?

>>39098705
you need an IQ of at least 160 to grasp her super coded message

>>39098705
>1 0
Tenchan!

>>39098740
Under busu.

>>39098768
tf we done to you mate? stick to bullying the stupid renofag

Nibu PB

>>39098796
SEETHE MORE WOOHOOOO!
>>39098102
>>39098102
>>39098102
>>39098102

>>39098806
No, Nibu is pure now.

PB
FUCKING
WHEN

>>39098806

>>39098837
Seira still 3rd row busu.

>>39098837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-4qm9SDscE&t=2s

>>39098806

>>39098984

>>39098290
>ike how Nogifags act like the fans themselves are the bijins on the top of the game so they can laugh at anyone who is under them

YWNBAW nogi fans

>>39098837
my gf and our daughter

>>39098352
>>39098691
Bijin baby

>>39098837
Both need to graduate since 5ki are here

>>39098662
Man he cute. Also really telling that her fantasy man is a plain office worker

Just got in from work. Thread Admiral Kira rolling in.

>>39099425
Who?

>>39099428
The Thread Admiral reporting for duty.

For the Paru bro, since I'm a nice guy.
https://youtu.be/mgP1LjkuZTc

>>39099448
Never mind, I see you are trolling. I thought this is some idol.

>>39099463
Lurk more, schizo T

>>39099461
Shame she doesn't speak a dialect when she's on camera.

>>39099461
My cute Paru-chan getting another push!

Schizo and T are two different people.
>>/jp/thread/S38728596#p38735002
>>/jp/thread/S38728596#p38729774

>>39099487
theyve been pushing all 3ki quite a bit the past year or so, lovely to see

>>39099488
sloppy miipan kisses

>>39099490
Okay, schizo T

>>39099488
She's hot af and I love it.

schizo started here, then tried stage and got banned, now he is on /g/ fighting with them.

>>39095597
Renaa and Honosu AND Kasuga on LOVE IT!

>>39099537
Thanks for the "non-idol" update, schizo T

Stage trolling was Seira anon
>>/jp/thread/S38738373#p38756427

>>39099562
2ki admirals up in the house!

>>39099562
BASED STAFF-SAN making meme magic a reality

And /g/ posts were done by T himself:
>>39098007

This is how I am going to deal with this derailed general from now on. Everyone will be called T until it sets in. I'm T as well. Back to whatever you lot were doing.

>>39099583
rei and rena really should have been in a different group

>>39099595
>I'm T as well
Archived.

>>39099590
>>39099605
Good to know, Seira T

>>39099605
>archived
Thanks, T

>>39099562
i-is she flirting here?
also, it looks like 2 different images lol

>>39099595
Kek this is actually a based solution. As the old saying goes:
"If you can't beat them, join them". Wow I love this place.

I wanna fuck all your oshis in all holes

Schizo officially won XD

>>39099425
BOOM
HD Kirako

Honosu is gonna play Mario Kart against Moriyama

>>39099663
Based

>>39099632
>If you can't beat them
You just accepted defeat. Archived too.

>>39099562
Based Sakurachans drawing all the dimes and getting that work.

>>39099657
>>39099678
Schizo T won indeed.

>>39099663
I need to see this

>thinking I admitted to anything
>thinking a schizo can win at anything
If anything you invoked the wrath of /sakag/ KEK

>>39099663
I looked for a stream and couldn't find a thing, anyone?

>>39099677
>>39099696
>>39099684

>>39099720
>mario kart 64
CLASSIC

The main T and Schizo T/Seira T is too dumb to realize the power of anonymous posting but they'll realize soon enough with all this pointless archiving and derailing

>>39099720
>64
Even better

>>39099732
Kek looking forward to it, T

>>39099720
N64? Based indeed.

I went to a psychiatrist for the first time today.
I told him about you guys, the thread, the characters, schizo etc.
He agreed with me that I am the sane one and you are acting insane and that you need mental help, he also put me on 5mg of abilify.

meat for dinner

>>39099720
I just love it when she laughs. It makes me happy immediately.

falseflag

>>39099759
Thanks for the update, Seira T

>>39099766
Yeah, trying to be Schizo is another win for him. This one got archived too, time stamps will prove his future false flags failed already too.

>>39099762

>showderp
>T
>"Legend"
>The main T
Kek! You guys flatter me!

>>39099766
>>39099787
Yeah nice samefagging, Seira T

>>39099787
Thanks, Archive- kun!

Renaa, Yada, Kasuga, and Kawashima are playing now!

>>39099803
Archive T up in the house!

>>39099803
No worries, T doesn't get to post freely anymore. He has too many enemies.

>>39099806
post the link, damnit

>>39099812
Good to know you won't either, Seira T

He invoked the wrath of the general. Now we're all T.
LMFAO!

Moriyama = us

https://streamable.com/kc5xpw

>>39099818
already got it, kinda late tho

make it end

Fair balance since the filtering and ignoring trolls won't work.

>>39099828
You were always T, but I always welcome another admission for archives, T.

>>39099852
You got it, Seira T

seems like Renaa talked about cooking mama, thought she was more of a Kirby kinda girl

T is mad XD

>>39099858
Hey whoever you are - thank you! I am gonna be laughing hard from now on because of this idea. /sakag/ is "T" now

I love you Tamura Hono.

>>39099867
RUDE, haya!

>>39099867
Nice WebM of Seira, Seira T

>>39099881
Whatever, T

>>39099837
Would you throw for your oshi?

>>39099882
She is a wonderful and well-built woman

So glad that Honosu became an idol

FOURSOME WITH CHRISTIE, KOIKE AND MEIMEI

>>39099860
I wonder what other games she likes.

More like honobusu

Okay, Busukawa

>>39099882
I love Tamura Hono too

Tama yoga Photobook.

>>39099882
Nothing at all to hate on this bijin

>>39099971
Bloodborne and mortal kombat

>>39100044
Damn Renaa is based af

poka will protect us

dont forget to buy your own poka

biggest size of course

>>39100059
Just joking i don't think she likes video games at all

>>39100066
poka is a fan insert

>>39100066
I used to give Pokka ratings until he copped Kawata's PB first. I'm gonna fight that fat bird.

>>39100093
he gets adequately punished when he fucks up
>>39100090
i can only buy poka, not ohisamas tho. unless you got a prime ohisama dealer for me m9?

Drama aside, i'm not really liking this single bros...

>>39100129
What's the main prob for you, bro?

My girlfriend is now a professional boxer

>>39100172
When why did my girl Yuna have to go off-script and bury her on that "Compliment" segment, mang?

when can we expect the first 29th sales numbers to come in?

>>39100167
The music it's not nogi at all, aside from fire's song it's shit, i don't like the visuals and the mv looks like crap

>>39100167
Not him, but the production sounds lazy as fuck.
For example, the synth in the under song intro sounds like someone taking a fart, the cringey rap parts in it and the 5ki song.
There are more examples but I'll post my full review about it (songs+mv) tomorrow.

>>39100215
Where da pb numbers? Is it true Akita beat fire?

>>39100230
sorry anon, do not know the answer to that.

>>39100190
What are you sayin mang

>>39100223
Cool, I'll read it then

>>39100262
Your professional boxer gf got complimented so hard by Shibata that she started laughing. Why didn't she square up then and fight back?

Man Kakehashi really stole my heart during 46 hour tv

>>39100294
As i said she is a professional boxer so she might get into trouble if she beats up someone outside of a ring

>>39100340
You are late to the sayatrain

>>39100473
YOU HAVE TO EAT THE EGGS

>>39100494
WhY aRe YoU dOiNg ThIs?

>>39100569
still at least 4kg underweight

Yo.
https://youtu.be/YTh7q_tGi4g

>>39099837
My eyes on Kasuga

櫻ヴィット!

>>39100672
Cute dumb Stacies

>>39100705
eyecatch poster where are you?! I need a WebM of this pls!

>>39100672
SakuGenerals!

If you're going to post hono at least make sure she's in gym shorts

>>39100741
What was that?

>>39100748
Based Filename T in the house!

Showderp if you're going to bait at least put some effort into it.

>>39100748
Athletic idols are the best

Please wait bros....the Mario Kart segment is currently being uploaded to streamable

>>39100782
Hurry it up! I need my fix!
>>39100773
Okay, Filename T

>>39100692
my eyes on Sarinass

>>39100782
Based loveitlad

>>39100837
Ponytail Konoka was absolute peak

Honosu vs. Moriyama in Mario Kart 64
https://streamable.com/hyomno

Saku-LOVE IT! eyecatch!
https://streamable.com/y3t871

Cool Renaa
https://streamable.com/dzhxxc

>>39100837
Still my oshi

>>39100871
Honestly I really love the new pixie cut but its always been a weakness of mine

>>39100897
better quality WebM lol

>>39100897
>>39100918
I love these bijins

>>39100897
are they bringing her back as a regular?

>8 days no Seira mail
You told me she was getting better!

>>39100897
Moriyama's a savage toying with Honosu like that lmao

>>39100966
She'll get better dude. She's your thread oshi, isn't she?

>>39100948
Kawashima joked about it, and Renaa said she wants to come back and Kawashima was like "You only want free food" and everyone laughed

>>39101017
That wretch! It's her greatest appeal on the show!

>>39101028
she'll be back......

>>39100897
this dude actually out here power sliding against an idol

>>39100897
Moriyama was savage lol, he only relaxed on the 3rd lap

I can't let these guys bully Tamura Hono! I need to do something!

https://youtu.be/fjc5bm8o-uo
they keep bullying my girl...

>>39101384
Good.

>>39101384
>>39101444
just kiss already

Were Hinachoi episodes actually streamed in such garbage quality as it's uploaded to A!O?

>>39101514
Isn't it a web show on nico?

https://youtu.be/X2ukf9QAwqg

>>39101525
HikariTV, at least second season.

friendly reminder:

>>39101560
if there's one girl that's not for that, it's Marino

>>39101352
>bully
No such thing as a bully online or irl. What are we - in 2005 or something?

>>39101384
I need to watch these videos at full length. Are they on bilibili?

>>39101629
In Mario Kart bullying still exists!

>>39101638
yes, they're all there quality is pretty good too

happy birthday dear daughter

>>39101660
Thank you, broski

Happy Birthday, Chukemon

>>39101765
Congrats for the 12th birthday

>>39097927
lmao genuinely getting this offended
never change, wota. never change

>>39101826
you just know they made out after taking this pic

>>39101958
why? they're not gay. the inoribros and the chukebros are tho

>>39098242
nooo you don't get it! it's japanese fashion! オシャレだ！オシャレ！

>>39101958
Hot af

https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20220323_1737615.html?DETAIL

>>39102191
Yikessssdsss

>>39102191
She never changed

Paru-chan is still the cutest

Yeah I'll be going with the Gori Gori Donuts

The birthday girl wishes to express her thanks to us international fans for praising the 4th single.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1506460717482135553

ChukePonPon pics

>>39102381
What a sweetheart

>>39102381
wholesome

>>39102381
>*chuke translating the comments*
>"what the heck is a kino?"

Chukemon is reading this thread right now guys be on your best behavior

>>39102629
We HATE chukemon here

>>39102660
Inori, what did I just say?

>saw her ShowRoom
Not yet not yet ;_;

Why busu girls are always conflictive?

Based Youtuber Hikaru is dating Sayuri. Wouldn't be surprised if she was helped to be introduced by Shida.

>>39103085
*Pic and link

http://nogizaka-46bunno1.blog.jp/archives/86144438.html

>>39098017
I feel your pain bro

>>39100678
Obviously

>>39102191
What the fuck is this shit can't she marry a proper ikemen actor?

>>39103085
what is with sakamichi girls dating so many scum youtubers

>>39103198
Hikaru is probably way more wealthy than your average ikemen actor.

>>39103059
miipan parties hard

>>39103198
Current 20 something year olds grew up worshiping these Youtubers and know they're rich.

>Ex-AKB
Marry chad Actors and Baseball players
>Ex-Sakamichi
Marry ugly Youtubers

Is actually funny when you think about it considering that Sakamichi is supposed to be much more famous and classy.
Yeah you can say that youtubers are rich but the difference of prestige between a ugly youtuber and a ikemen actor is massive

>>39103549
Maybe we are the only ones who think ikemen actors are prestige where as in reality youtubers are the actual guys with the prestige not ikemen actors.

>>39103549
>>39103566
When most children today want to be Youtubers when they grow up, maybe we are the ones who are out of touch.

>>39103634
Yeah, even I want to be a twitch streamer now.

>>39103643
I feel like doing some streaming about what you're passionate about could be fun.

>>39103654
Is it too late to hop on the stream train?

when did /saka/ become the boomer general?

>>39103698
It was always a boomer general until the summerboys overstayed their welcome.

>>39103667
To make money out of it? Maybe. To have fun? It's never late to have fun anon :)

Watanabe Mojo is definitely a likely candidate for graduation from Hinatazaka46.
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/entame/sakamichi/4079291/

Watanabe Miho is a definite candidate for graduation from Hinatazaka46
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/entame/sakamichi/4079291/

>>39104002
Her, Nao and Manamo are safe bets

>>39104002
>同じ出演者として、フィルターがかからないくらいの実力をつけないといけないんだなと思っています。卒業したらアイドルという肩書はつかなくなる。そこで「元アイドルだからね」と言われるのも絶対に嫌なんです。だから今もアイドルではあるものの、いい意味でアイドル感がない人になれたらいいなって。もともとアイドル感はない方なんですけど（苦笑）。
I mean she speaks truth.

>>39104002
good, I fucking hate her.

>>39104048
This line of thinking kinda sucks. It's a real problem, but she could've said "I'll do my best so others won't judge me for being an idol/ex-idol and recognize me for my work", instead of going the rote "Idols suck please don't look at me as an idol". Very contradictory when you think she got most of her roles because she is an idol.