/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sex

Someone please make a proper thread with the heading.

>>39004497
It's fine, the search function still works without it.

God fucking damn it, I forgot the subject again

>>39004512
It’s okay. If someone should make a new thread, we’ll just head to that one instead.

>>39004512
>again
How are you this stupid? Are you doing this on purpose?

>>39004538
Fuck off, this is the second time out of like 20.

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>>39004484
Bases Kanon hater. Worst Seacat.

>>39004571
I think you mean Based

>>39004573
I know what I said.

>>39004516
new thread up everyone! >>39004594

>>39004601
You had a chance to make one that people would actually want to use.

I think I'll just keep using this one.

>>39004497
I'm getting the impression that OP rushes to get these threads out without doublechecking solely because he wants to beat the sperg from posting his own thread w/o the charms.

Mods, nuke the other thread. This one is bad but that one is a troll hell.

You guys won't like meguri tomorrow

Who is ths troll?
Btw

Why was the other thread deleted? It had more posts and posters?

>>39005711
The mod is a charm supporter

>>39005711
None of which were worth anything

>>39005711
Mod hates Sperg

Sperg is to based for this world

Post mion

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>>39005761
Moo

>>39005769
New feet!

>>39005780
Witch feet...

>>39005761
The ogre's butt.

so why do americans celebrate clover day again I thought it was an irish thing

>>39005789
Off-topic
Shitpost image
V and [-]

>>39005801
Good job.

>>39005801
>>39005805
rude

>>39005813
Takatoko

>>39005818
Haha

*sip* thank you mod for getting rid of its shitpost.

I wonder if Hanyuu has smelly feet and if socks help cover it?

Should have been Shion, really

>>39005846
I don't really like socks to cover up the feet imo

>>39005860
>>39005846
how would her feet smell like

>>39005761
Mion the cow

>>39005870
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>>39005769
Is every body part of Mion perfect?

>>39005866
Like stinky French cheese!

>>39005761

Shion is the superior sister

>>39005874
yes because Mion is an angel

>>39005761
The king of the village

worth it

>>39005899
I kind of liked how she couldn't actually kill him

Bern feet

>>39005900
All she needed was to fool Ooishi

>>39005902
Fixed!

>>39005903
She didn't even need to do that. Ooishi would have gone bonkers no matter what.

>>39005904
Actually fixed

>>39004484
>Kanonfag Scorpion Charm:
>https://pastebin.com/8P3fxsNr
Dude, you just filtered my wife.

>>39005899
So you think they did... you know?

>>39005911
[-] and V
No stubs

Smells like old funko pops

What's the point in randomly offloading your feet pics on a thread? Especially when you're always just talking to yourself the whole time. The filenames make it obvious.

>>39005926
I'm horny and I don't want it to look pathetic, also not all the replies are by me.

Kanon has a very small p*n*s.

>>39005926
Annoying other people and inflicting their fetish on them is part of their fetish. It's like how all the usual shitposters here just push the same garbage every time; they know at least one person will be annoyed by it and that provides all the justification they need.

>>39005769
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>>39005940
Kanons tiny pecker...

>>39005761

>>39005761
The green devils

The back of Kanon's neck.

I'm sick of the green bitch post rika.

What if Sotsugou was created so every single club member could kill Rika?

>>39005913
Tender sex with each other? Yeah, he pumped her full of cum. Everything else was all an illusion

What's the meeper doing?

>>39005985
I think it was created so R07 made more money

>>39005994
It was created as an ad for the gatchA

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>>39005986
Nice fan fiction.

>>39006014
>posts fan fiction herself

The only canon yuri ship.

What is the meaning of the number 34? Why is it so utilized?

>>39006018
Sotsugou is canon.

>>39006005
I love visible armpits

>>39006021
Best one

>>39006023
It's ryukishi's ploy to one up jesus
>>39006026
How is an anime a proper sequel to a vn, LOL

>>39006026
That doesn't make your ship canon.

>>39006033
The VN isn't canon anymore, it's been left behind. Animes are the creators final version of a story so only the anime is canon and soutsugou is a sequel to the Deen anime.

>>39006044
>>The VN isn't canon anymore, it's been left behind.
Says who and why?

>>39006041
Except it does shitposter. Watch the show again.

>>39006047
Nobody has to say it, there hasn't been any new Higurashi VN in years. Nobody cares about it anymore.

>>39006044
>>39006050
Kimiyoshi destroyed this ship with his cock

>>39006050
>Watch the show again.
The show were instead of having a lesbian relationship Satoko and Rika went their separate ways in the end, yeah
May I suggest you go back to /a/ where your low levels of intellect will be accepted? We are kinda smart here, you see.

>>39006057
Go back to bed Rax.

>>39006050
Maybe you should, because I for one don't recall any kissing or romantic confessions. In fact, I remember a cast party post-Sotsu where they get referred to as 'close as family', and Rika calling Satoko her 'best friend'. Perhaps you should go read that. It gives a good insight into Ryukishi's views of your favorite anime.

If the show is canon, then the only ship that won is this one at the end

>>39006059
The show literally ends with them confessing their love for each other. Is there a reason why your beings so obvious about you fake ignorance?

>>39006026
SotsuGyouRei is canon*

>>39006068
They hold hands in the car and tell each other how much they love one another before they get on the train.

>>39006071
*click*

>>39006014
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>>39006050
Mrs. K1miyoshi and her friend.

>>39005739
Glorious! I’m not a fan of off-topic threads either.
Discuss how hot Lion is.

>0b6deeea04c5dbac8dc797324
>91675fb78053cc067dd8304c3
There has never been a good post attached to an image with a filename like these ones. Astonishing.

>>39006084
You're so obvious.

>>39006094

>>39006094
Not Canon

Satoko ends up with a loving husband and a daughter. Rika ends up lusting after a teenage boy. Since Satoshi is alive and Teppei is good, if we determine Sotsugou is canon, so is this.

Sotsugou is definitely canon to something.

>>39006102
That's. Not. How. It. Works. Shitposter.

The new manga is not really very good. Cameos are the best part and are posted here often. Sums it up really.
Also does anyone else find Tomato draws faces that seem odd?

>>39006106
Then how does it work?

>>39006100
The author's own writing isn't canon?

>>39006111
For some reason some of his Satoko drawings make her look like a muppet to me

>>39006114
VN is not connected to the anime.

>>39006121
Then what is that writing about?

Is Mion canon?

Post more satorika

>>39006121
This motherfucker calls people shitposters, the gall

>>39006130
Very.

You people don't deserve the sperg

>>39006134

>>39006005
I wonder how they'll try to include Chisame, given that she hasn't been involved with the Showa 58 stuff at all.

>>39006121
It is connected. The evidence I have for this is simple. It’s connected. I can’t tell by the way it’s connected. There is a connection.

>>39006083
If Ange carriea on like this she’ll definitely get cancer and maybe become a bed ridden novelist.

>>39006195
Ange passed away from complications of painful cancer on 20XX.....

>>39006130
Putting Mion into a cannon!
Firing her to the moon!

>>39006224
...why

>>39006225
Now I need a reason for my actions?
You are taking the fun out of this cannon stuff everyone talks about. If we have so many cannons we need to use them.

>>39006234
>>Now I need a reason for my actions?
Don't you always?

Rika can catch cannons.

>>39006240
I wonder how big a cannon can you fit inside her

>>39006240
with her BUTT

>>39006259
Not canon.
She doesn’t care about her brother after Sotsugou.
Needs fired out of a cannon.

>>39006091
Correct, I for one especially appreciate lion's petite figure and flat chest. especially lion being a girl but just looking tomboy-ish like that. Peak cute, hot and attractive!

>>39006304
What a refined and stylish anon.

>>39006091
>Discuss how hot Lion is.
I'd need to be reminded of Lion's hotness, post some cute Lion pics.

>>39006292
Disgusting.

Glorious.

>>39006333
keeps happening

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>>39006094
Ryukishi wrote an all-cast review session for sotsugyou? Where do I find this?

>>39006361
RIKA ROARING

Hanyuu!

>>39006366
Hou+

call RIGHT NOW and we'll double the offer!

>>39005761
More mion

>>39006386
Eua seems to be easily amused no matter what

Just finished reading the canon manga on my iPhone and I’m kind of disgusted by this.

>>39006399
The Manga isn't canon.

*click*

These threads are the definition of insanity. Nothing new, nothing original just the same posts posted over and over again.

>>39006409
Why do you come here, then

>>39006409
I would leave but I’m trapped in this loop.
Ryukishi is a genius.

>>39006409
[-]
No stubs

>>39006414
G l o r i o u s !

The sex monster is hungry.

>>39006391
Eua's stats are the same as Hanyuu's, the only difference being that she has far higher smugness-levels. In other words, don't let her tendency to say omoshiroi omoshiroi and cackle like a mad scientist fool you. She's still an idiot.

>>39006428
>and cackle like a mad scientist fool you
ANGRRRRRY SCIENTIST

>>39006391
laughing is a sport where you win just by participating

>>39006428
>Eua's stats are the same as Hanyuu's
Please. Hanyuu is cute, but Eua is beautiful.

>>39006412
Waiting for the smallest bit of original posts, however half of them get deleted within the first 10 minutes of being posted and the other half only shows up once every blue moon.

Which Gero would you Kasu?

>>39006446
all of them except the loli, for once

>>39006428
hououin kyoma vs eua evil laugh contest when

>>39006444
>>39006446
Off-topic.
Fuck off shitposters.
V and [-]

>>39006444
Bitching about jannies, again?

>>39006454
[-]

>>39006444
Those are evil horrible shitty posts designed to spread hatred.

>>39006428
> Eua's stats are the same as Hanyuu's
Worthless insect!

>>39006443
Eh, I think if Hanyuu had that same smug, sadistic grin you'd be just as happy to call her beautiful.

>>39006465
Glorious!

>>39006446
would put them all into trash immediately

>>39006473
The croissants in her hair make her seem like a kid, I can't take her seriously. At least Eua's device looks appropriate.

>>39006068
To be fair, it's not Rika saying that bit about family.

On the other hand, alongside all the Lambda/Bern references they included the Lambda/Bern speech in the Sotsu finale -but- removed the line about lovers. So, yeah, it's clear they didn't want to expressly acknowledge romantic feelings in spite of making so many allusions to a romantic relationship.

Enough auauu and ohohoho and post lion.

>>39006504
>So, yeah, it's clear they didn't want to expressly acknowledge romantic feelings in spite of making so many allusions to a romantic relationship.
That's what we called "yuribaiting" back in the day

How would you punish sextoko?

>>39006530
RAPE

I want to pat Rika on the head and tell her it's okay.

What would anons do if they spawned in 1983 Hinamizawa (one day before the festival) or Rokkenjima (few hours before it begins)? You are just a normal human, mind you, but you do retain knowledge of events.

>>39006568
Shut the fuck up.

>>39006568
[-]

>>39005899
Why this kunt keep drawimg HER
WHERE IS MY RIKA. WHY? He wants me to beat the shit out of HIMM HMM? FUCKING SHITSUGOUNIGGER
>>39005981
>>39005989
RIKA MY BELOVED RIKA RRIKA RIKAAAA

>>39006568
I would help Krauss find the gold for a modest fee and spend the rest of the time watching him mock all his siblings for the failures that they are.

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>>39006068
Why shitsugou underage faggots who have an extreme shittaste in anime and media love shitok0 the bitch/cunt and not rika the kind?

Shark girl is voiced by MAO.

>>39006568
>1983 Hinamizawa (one day before the festival)
1) Make a bunch of letters with a summary of what's going to happen and how it is inevitable if nothing is done to counter this situation. Style them with wax seal, pretend to be a postman and hand them all to club members. When they ask what those letters are or grill me on the contents, say that someone told me to hand these to them and that I need to go back to finish the task.
2) Catch Irie alone somewhere, somehow, ideally within a day. This is the hard part. After that, threaten him to stay and listen with informing Teppei of Satoko's circumstances and misrepresenting them as being a lab rat. Basically tell him everything about Takano being on the loose, all the relevant facts and that he can trust Tomitake. Convince him to call in Banken before manual 34 takes effect. Because there was no time for gathering proof, must bluff like a man with nothing to lose. Tell him to watch the club members for symptoms because it's possible that someone's gonna sperg into a killing spree.
3) Create a distraction somehow. Try to set up a meeting with Irie and Tomitake. Ideally, act as bait while the others do useful things in the background like prevent Yamainu and Takano from killing Rika. High possibility of not making it, but the crisis should fix itself.

>Rokkenjima (few hours before it begins)
find a way to GTFO to kuwadorian and wait for the explosions

prove me wrong on both counts you can't

>>39006748
Stop already you massacred rika OKAY. SHES BEYOND DEAD CORPS

>>39006568
Put on my swimsuit and crawl up and down the mansion covering it in tape.

>>39006568
Get gold.
Get on boat.
Get off island.
Profit.

when the cat is neither alive nor dead, you can kill it as many times as you want
murder becomes a pleasant past time, resurrection becomes like refilling a cup of tea
rejoice, child of man, the cat is alive once again

>>39006817
and by "cat" I mean my erection

I dont want to be friends with shitokofags

Stroking to sextoko!

Pecker time

>>39006736
>pretend to be a postman
In a close-knit village like Hinamizawa? I don't know if that could work.
>find a way to GTFO to kuwadorian and wait for the explosions
Wouldn't you save anyone?

Cute pecker

>di k poster is a shitokoniger
Kill yourself mentally ill shit0konigger

>>39006093
Obviously based?

Phase 2 b-bros? Russia is moving their planes, with government officials, to Siberian bunkers.

>>39006931
>b-bros
>first squawk
Yes this is on the level of Ryukishi writing.

>>39006132
KimiyoshiRika*

>>39006931
Wtf is pic related is even about?

BROS? BROS? BROS?

>>39006968
>>39006951
Russia is losing against Ukraine and just might play "I will nuke you" card.

>>39006931
>>39006971
Trash
[-]

>>39007008
I was making fun of her.

>>39007006
>>39007011
Don't care.
Off-topic.
[-] and V
No stubs

>>39007023
Your penis's a stub.

>>39007028
V and [-]
Burn in hell

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>39007028
pffft hahahaha

What a horrible thread.

>>39007314
Sperg thread was better

>>3900736
It was worse. These posts would have been there too. Stop talking about him. Creepy.

>>39007701
I kinda miss tripfags and that should say everything bout me

>>39007367
Stop.

Boku wa Hanyuu to moushimasu

hanyuu no ashi to omanko

did anon ever finish his umineko memesubs

>>39006545
I want to tell her I love her

Is Hanuyy a witch?

>>39008039
If you go by Gou/Sotsu, at least, yeah, since they show her with witch eyes replacing the dot red eyes.

>>39004484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06W-sCBFFY

The "witch" title doesn't really mean all that much, to be honest. Only real witches like the fragment bitches actually count.

>>39008162
Why do you think so

>>39008162
Wut

>>39008181
Because the Golden witch of cope is not even a witch despite having the title.

>>39008267
Might as well call her the witch of seething with how angry she causes you to be.

Hanew

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>>39008281
Wat

>>39008385
huh?

>>39008388
Enje doesn't make me angry anon

>>39008396
Yes she does

>>39008404
I now hate Enje

>>39008421
Oh yeah? I now hate Rika.

>>39008426
Shut up Anjelover

>>39008440
Make me.

>>39008448

>literally spells out the story for you
>people STILL don't get it

>>39008496
What if people get it just fine, but they just think it's a shit story from a hack author?

>>39008496
Not my fault the fantasy perspective with magic and witches and metaverse is one hundred times better than the reality of the game.

>>39008519
just assume all the ushiromiyas are retarded and it makes sense

>>39008496
Will isn't real and therefore cannot be trusted

>>39008496
Williard didn't get it wright.
It's the same with the cheese riddle. Umineko isn't a flawless mystery and Ryukishi confirmed a loophole.

>>39008496
The seethe this post generates from brainlets

>>39008628
But he did get it right.
What are you talking about? Are you perhaps Italian?

>>39008496
My wife Lion’s boyfriend is such a camp sailor!

>>39008566
Wut

>>39008762
will is a fantasy

>>39008767
Even if he is you are then dealing with a Yasu or Hachijo written story with different levels of meta characters of which Will is one so I don’t see how this is any use.
Also the manga confirmed he is right. If you don’t like any of this then you have to go with no answer and no actual story because you have no way of telling what is fictional or not.

>>39008809
>with no answer
This is correct. Umineko is a deconstruction of mysteries, it is supposed to be without a proper solution.

>>39008819
The VN alone maybe, although almost everything is made pretty clear by the end. And the manga confirms this.

>>39008861
Ok, anon, yes, the manga.

>>39008819
Wut.
Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice
Rudolph and Kyrie probably went nuts.
What are you talking about. Solved.

>>39008878
Yes the one confirmed by Ryukishi that gets confirmed every thread and is officially endorsed by him. That one. You want this argument again?
Again if you don’t like it then tough. Truth is truth.

>>39008905
Yes, anon, I want this argument again, death of the author, now what?

Look at her go!

>>39008923
Cope of the reader

>>39008971
Tears of the fanboy.

>>39008923
so u againts the official answer ?

>>39008979
I'm just respecting a creator's control over their own creation commie faggot.

>>39009006
Not the official answer if it isn't in the original works itself.
>>39009008
>control over their own creation
Then he should have added that fact in the vn, not the manga.

>>39006426
What does she eat?

>>39009015
Umineko is his creation, not just the VN

>>39008923
Roland Barthes's literary theory is a literary theory.
So not a fact. So it can’t really be used to argue effectively that we can’t take Ryukishi’s opinion as truth.
Death of the author really is just a shitposters tool to derail the thread.
Best thing about it is that according to the death of the author theory I can’t trust the death of the author theory.
Absolute trash.

>>39009030
>>39009008
That’s it. Fuck this communist scum >>39008923

>>39009028
Didn't know he drew and wrote the manga, too.
>>39009030
Death of the author isn't a theory. It's a tool that prevents people with actual brains from accepting whatever the author spouts AFTER he's finished his work.
>I can’t trust the death of the author theory.
Good, because it's not a theory, it's a tool, like you.

>>39009015
It is in the original work
See here
>>39008884

>>39009069
>shanon=kanon=beatrice
Lmao.

>>39009049
>it's a tool, like you.
Ohhhhhhhh snap

>>39009049
You don’t have any clue do you? You just want to derail the thread. I definitely won’t reply to you again so keep fishing for another anons to bait with this shit and the insults.
Even if it is a tool then it’s not one that you can use as a fact.
Also fuck you.

>>39009049
Look at this absolute tool right here.
Oh he’s mad.

>>39009101
>Even if it is a tool then it’s not one that you can use as a fact.
This particular tool is used for a very specific purpose, and that's to stop hack authors like RYukishi and Rowling.
>Also fuck you.
I shall wear this like a badge of honour.
>>39009115
I am mad. Livid.

Alright, how many of you fags have actually read Death of the Author? Barhe's argument isn't that you can't trust what authors have to say about their work and that you should let the text speak for itself, it's that there's no such thing as intentionality, full stop. He actually goes on at some length about how the idea of the individual as subject, which is, so to speak, its own ground, is an invention of capitalist ideology and we're all really puppets of materialist historical forces. There are no individuals, ergo there are no "authors" with "intentions". From this he concludes that only by abandoning the outmoded bourgeoise idea of authorship can we as literary critics and readers become freed from the illusion that we ourselves are subjects and give "birth" to "the reader", which is conceived of as some kind of super-historical non-perspectival epistemic event horizon that allows us to get a whiff of the communist utopia to come. Really. that's what he's arguing.

>>39009142
>it's that there's no such thing as intentionality, full stop.
Even better.

>>39009142
Yes it’s just one guy’s opinion that can be disregarded but appears to be the shitposters weapon of choice even if they are stupid like this tool.
>>39009127

I mean, call me a tool all you like, death of the author applies to Ryukishi changing his mind about the mystery and "revealing" the solution in the manga, and you are a big dummy for sucking his cock.

>>39009127
But you aren’t stopping anyone. The authors keep giving their opinion and expanding on their work.
You are convincing me to read the manga actually. If you are this mad then it must be good.

>>39009170
How does it apply?

>>39009175
>>But you aren’t stopping anyone.
How do you know? I am not responsible for anyone's actions, anyway, I am not a mod.
>You are convincing me to read the manga actually.
By all means, do so, it's rather good.
>>39009187
Ryukishi's interpretive tyrrany in "revealing" the culprit in the manga can be defeated by simply applying "death of the author" as a tool.

>Ryukishi's interpretive tyrrany

>>39009200
How does that defeat Ryukishi?
It means I trust him or your opinion on some dead guy who wrote your “tool”.

>>39009200
This shitty poster has a tiny old tool.
Oh he’s seething.

>>39009230
I too made this face when reading it. This anon is max cringe.

>>39009231
It defeats him by making smart, nonfanboy peiple laugh at his inclusion of the "solution" in the manga, like who does he think he is, not including his interpretations in his og work, Rowling?
>It means I trust him
Well, you are a fangirl, of course you do, nothing will stop you from eternally fellating him.
Phase 2 is coming out soon!
>>39009241
Rude.
>>39009258
Ruder!

>>39009272
>peiple

>>39009170
The "Ryukishi changed his mind in the manga"-debate is besides the point. I'm telling you that authors are persons with histories, circumstances, philosophies and intentions, that these are reflected in their work, and that they are valid things to consider when you try to analyse a text. If you acknowledge that, then you can't use "tools" however you like in your interpretation of a text, bad methodology means your analysis is invalid. If you want to defend a theory of limited authorship you have to plausibilize it as a theory, you can't just hide behind "it's a tool, bro".

>>39009142
Nobody ever argued it was about trust, just that it doesn't matter because the author is dead. The author was dead. The author has always been dead. The author has never even existed in the first place and will never exist.

>>39009291
I don't think I need to explain the entire history and meaning of a specific literaly tool every time I want to mention it, no.
>and that they are valid things to consider when you try to analyse a text
That limits both your enjoyment and the analysis of the test since you are filtering it through what you know about the auther, which influences your thinking. It's a good thing to have in mind if you want to know the author better, but a work should be judged on its own merits, the author's opinions or afterthought be damned.
I am not hiding behind anything, unlike anons who hide behind r07's opinion, ceasing their thinking.

>>39009200
Death of the author is literally a cope that only applies to the person reading it and not to the work itself. You can piss and scream "DEATH OF THE AUTHOR" all you want and it'll never mean anything to the masses because the concept itself is retarded.

>>39009317
oh yeah, says who?

>>39009272
>>39009272
Well, well sperg junior. I’ve been watching for a while and it looks like you are getting BTFO quite badly here and spelling words poorly as you hit your keyboard in rage and talk about Harry Potter.
Why don’t you have a nice sip of #tea, close the browser and get back in the cage?

>>39009339
>>Death of the author is literally a cope
I will respond to you when you talk like a humanbeing. It LITERALLY isn't a "cope".
> the concept itself is retarded.
Astonishing argument, as per usual. I have a good comeback, you're mom.


You people are dogs, have a cute Lambda, you made me upset. Good day, sirs.

>>39009360
Don’t come back. If you do then learn to make sense.

>>39009347
I do as it is my interpretation of Death of the Author and I obviously apply it to itself.

>>39009374
I make perfect sense, you are going against a literary concept just because it hurts your feefees.
Faggots.
>>39009384
Of course you'd resort to headcanon. Dog.

>This room is going to be a bathroom
>Actually, it's going to be a bedroom
Death of the architect

Mion, no! That's not what "death of the author" mea-

>>39009397
If you want it to be a bedroom, then it's a bedroom, although you should have used a musician or a different artist in your comparison.

>>39009389
>muh headcanon
You nor anyone else aren't any higher arbiter on interpretations of works.

>>39009406
my brain right now,still dont know whats's going on,u guys have some intellectual discussion, im proud

>>39009330
you can engage in intellectual masturbation all you want, but if you want to have your theories acknowledged as coherent by other readers you'll have to justify your methodological framework. as it stands, the first thing any sane person will ask when you tell them about your amazing idea that "but what if... we pretended that authorship is irrelevant to interpretation?" is 'but why would I?'.

>>39009389
How do you make sense?
I keep asking you why this death of the ahutor thing is applicable and should be taken as something to be respected and you can’t answer it.
You do type a lot of meme buzzwords.

>>39009384
I hate to tell you this, but you're dead kiddo. you were never alive to begin with.

>>39009360
borges

>>39009419
I am saying that you should make your own interpretations instead of blindly following others.
>>39009428
> is 'but why would I?
You don't answer a question with a question.
> but if you want to have your theories acknowledged as coherent by other readers you'll have to justify your methodological framework
I have done so many times before and the only arguments I meet are insults and people obsessed with the author's inteprentational tyrrany.
>>39009437
>I keep asking you why this death of the ahutor thing is applicable
>>39009330
Here you go, again. You and the other anon seem have missed the second part of my post, which explains precisely why you should never take what an author says about his works after he's done with them.
>>39009458
Based. Also, a good example of an author whose works are better enjoyed when applying death of the author on them.

>bro you don't make sense....because you just don't, ok

Death of the author? Tis a tool, m'lady.

>>39009428
If you let author's or dear god even worse, copyright owner's whims lead your interpretations I can only pity you. Ryukishi for example could on a whim tweet that Rika has always been a tranny and you'd be, by your own rules of interpretation, be forced to accept that. Or do you just selectively choose what's convenient for your own interpretations to believe author outside of work when it suits you and not when it doesn't? Hypocrisy.

El Doctor Oscuro

>>39009479
Seems on par with your usual arguments.
>>39009489
Based fellow Rika lover giving it to them straight.

>>39009464
You were reminiscent of the borges lambda anon for a moment.

>>39009499
You made her/him leave, too.

>>39009464
Sperg, no one agrees with you. You don’t even agree with you.
You can’t spell tyranny by the way. Second time you got it wrong.
> inteprentational
Holy shit give up.

>>39009464
relax anon it just a word, here have a drink

>>39009528
Nice, go all angefag on me, instead of actual, proper arguments.
>>39009532
How do I know you didn't spike it

>>39009489
If you let Rika or Rika posters whims lead your interpretations I can only pity you.

>>39009489
>Ryukishi for example could on a whim tweet that Rika has always been a tranny and you'd be, by your own rules of interpretation, be forced to accept that.
I've been trying to tell you that that's not true. Often enough there are good reasons for rejecting the author's own opinions about their text as not authoritative, and you don't need to go full retard and subscribe to loonie communist epistemology to recognize that Rowling's tweets about Hermione being black and Dumbledore being a transfigured houseelf are just retcons and not reflective of canon.

>>39009542
Okay so can you tell me why I should consider your old, tiny tool to be better than Ryukishi? I keep asking and you can’t tell me.

>>39009542
whatttt you dont ttrust me?relax im not ryukishi,you can trust me.

>>39009542
Jesus this guy is dumb. Why is he so dumb. Fucking dumb.

>>39009551
>loonie communist epistemology
>death of the author
Try and disenfrachise the concept as much as you like, it still works like a darling and it still makes you angery.
> are just retcons
So is Ryukishi's opinion on the culprit.
>>39009560
>>39009330
Not giving myself another (You), open your eyes.

>>39009509
I definitely did not make myself leave this place. I hope anyone who invokes Barthes has read him too though, seems like the more frequently people do, the less likely they've actually engaged with his writing.

TomitakeXMiyo bros... it's almost our time.

>>39009579
Yeah but so can you tell me why I should consider your old, tiny tool to be better than Ryukishi? I keep asking and you can’t tell me.

>>39009579
it's clear you're too deluded to engage with anything I write, too bad I guess.

>>39009586
rapeable character

>>39009583
Barthes is junk.

>>39009602
We know, K2 but rape is bad. Didn't your father teach you about the laws of consent?

So I just looked at this thread and I have to be honest. The death of the author poster is not convincing me. Is it true it’s just the Sperg?

>>39009551
All I'm doing is providing a consistent framework that doesn't require mental hoops or subjective non-reasoning and not "it's a retcon because... it just is!!!". Complete works should strive be as immutable as possible so everyone starts from the same line no matter when they experience them and no matter what they experience in addition to them.

>>39009607
ok, well I'm not here to defend/argue Barthes' quality but just, behold another example of this mass obsession with pulling terms and meanings out of our asses.

>>39009583
I don't think anyone's that actually read him will call his works "loonie commie epistemology", nor would they be so insistent on refusing a rather useful tool, especially when the reason for its applications have been posted multiple times
>>39009595
>open your eyes
>Um i repeat myself again tho?
Open your eyes.
>>39009597
Nice ad hominems and nice "I am going to be reductionist", again.

>>39009641
>>All I'm doing is providing a consistent framework that doesn't require mental hoops or subjective non-reasoning
But you are doing exactly that when you are disenfrachising an entire concept by calling it "loonie commie trash" and everyone who disagrees with you a tool or a fool, get your mind out of the gutter you pseud.
>>39009642
Nothing remotely close to that happened here, so it's all good.

>>39009623
you right,i need to ask her if i can rape her or not,my bad.

>>39009641
have you ever heard of intertextuality? every new context has the potential to transform the way texts are interpreted. if we found Shakespeare's lost journal tomorrow, it *should* change the way we see at least some aspects of his plays.

>"it's a retcon because... it just is!!!".
Being reductionist is a very fashionable thing to do in the chans, but no.

>>39009673
It would just explain the thought process of the author, it wouldn't detract or add to the work itself.

>>39009650
Yeah but so can you tell me why I should consider your old, tiny tool to be better than Ryukishi? I keep asking and you can’t tell me. You say open my eyes but you’ve never posted a reason even once.

>>39009684
absence of evidence is weak evidence of absence, and Rowling didn't mention Hermione being black anywhere in the novels!

>>39009650
You’ve never posted a reason though. You just try to post words you don’t understand.
This guy is right>>39009706

>>39009704
it wouldn't necessarily detract from the personal meaning you got from it (which incidentally is what Umineko argues as well with Ange's arc), but the intersubjective epistemic horizon has permanently shifted.

>>39009706
>you’ve never posted a reason even once.
I have.
>>39009707
Nor did she mention that Dumbledore's a fag in the novels, she said taht outside of the novels, just like Ryukishi said that Shkannontrice is canon in the manga, not the novel.
>>39009716
I have posted the reasons plenty of times.
> You just try to post words you don’t understand.
I really hope you can argue without using ad hominems irl, because it's getting a bit depressing.
>>39009727
>it wouldn't necessarily detract from the personal meaning you got from it
Or the actual meaning of the work itself.

>>39009667
>loonie commie trash
You're confusing me with another anon here. I never brought up or replied to anything relating to communism.

>>39009673
Then you interpret the sets of works independently. You can interpret A as A and separately A+B as A+B without changing your interpretation of A. A is a complete work and A+B can be a complete work and interpretations can be completely different. You also have every right to disregard B because you see A as complete and not part of A. In no world should B ever overwrite your interpretation of A.

How do I play Umineko on macOS using Crossover? I'm using Catalina so Wine won't work.

>>39009732
>>You're confusing me with another anon here.
My bad, then.

>>39009732
even the interpretation of A as A is transformed by your awareness that it is lacking context B which you have reason to believe is relevant.

>>39009731
>I have
Where is it? it would be quicker to link than keep replying like this. You are lying. So can you tell me why I should consider your old, tiny tool to be better than Ryukishi? I keep asking and you can’t tell me.

>>39009742
No it isn't.

>>39009586
Police, yes, that's her. That's the female pervert.

>>39009747
>>Where is it? it would be quicker to link than keep replying like this
I did link it.

>>39009731
This guy has asked like four times and you can’t answer.
>>39009747

>>39009762
Yeah so where is it? Can you tell me why I should consider your old, tiny tool to be better than Ryukishi? I keep asking and you can’t tell me.

>>39009758
Knowing that information X exists changes the kinds of theories you come up with to make sense of A when you run into open questions.

>>39009763
Five times. He can’t answer that question.

>>39009763
But I have answered.
>>39009773
It's on a different post on this very reply chain, a fact that I have brought up before and you just started the "I keep asking and you can’t tell me." parotting.
I guess I can provide you with a short, reductive summary after you try 5 more times.

I will give you a hint, it has a picture attached to it.

hey
i like very much rika

bye

>>39009792
Five fucking times and you can’t answer a straight question. So you are clearly fucking wrong aren’t you.

>>39009785
Only if I knew the exact nature of X. Because I would obviously experience A before X, X can't possibly affect my interpretations of open questions in A that X might answer because I know nothing about X except its existence. I would arrive at the exact same interpretations regardless.

>>39009792
I would also respect you more if you could answered that. I think you are trolling badly.

hey
i don't like shitoko
ok bye

>>39009820
>>39009489
>>39009831
I don't really care for the respect of individuals with limited cognitive abilities.

>>39009761
Silly Battora
Women can't be perverts

The existence of Rudolf and Kyrie as final culprits adds to Umineko's function as a deconstruction of mysteries. It doesn't take away from it.
Their bland, empty murders being the "truth" carry the ultimate point: that truth in reality is typically drab, vicious, and narratively unsatisfying, without meaningful motives or artful methods. It tells the reader that the conventions of Mystery, as upheld by Wright and Knox, are themselves as much a fantasy as those of Fantasy. That's why Dlanor and Willard are fantastical, supernatural characters themselves. Only, the point runs, when people gather together to mutually deny the worst qualities of plain reality and create a shared fiction, free of "anti-magic toxin" can that sort of satisfying, comfortable narrative be found.

Death of the sperg. His shitposting is at a low.