/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I added the wiki page that has set-ups for story card farming to the OP because that might be useful for people and there is some stuff in there no one would ever come up with on their own.

>>38905658
Just hearing who can do it is enough to figure the rest out.
Unless there's a specific card setup that you don't usually see, I usually can't be bothered to try that many permutations unless I'm really close

My favourite is the guy who is clearly a huge fan of Nue and really wants her to be useful so he made set-ups for multiple stages but they always say stuff like "oh btw you need to have +500 attack for this to maybe work all the time"

I wasted dream cubes on the festival banner, had to go 70 cubes over the exchange number, and trying to get Seiga, I went from having almost 3k cubes to just 1.3k. I'm so pissed, fucking bullshit.

>>38906280
I saw one or two stars for Sekibanki in there as well. Honestly has me interested in building her if I get her just to try them myself.

Got She Cassios instead of Sekibankinarobbery

>Pulled and reach 150P for loli Junko
>Not only i got her but i also got Sekibanki, Bucket, Rat, Parsee and one dupe
I need paper dolls.. tons of them.

>>38912567
I have 9 dolls which is quite low actually. I used to have 27 at one point but most of the new characters are ones I actually want to level up. The only one of the retro 2hus I did not power up was Nitori.

Memelist not impressed with Buddhist mom. Hakurei and Moriya shrine still providing better friends in the end.

>>38918457
Retro Sakuyer moved up?
Was there some card released or something?

>>38918920
Technically yes but it is one of those super limited gacha only cards that no one will ever get 5 copies of until it becomes unlimited. That card isn't completely new though.

>>38918457
Yeah it's interesting. Meanwhile https://東方ロストワード.com/?p=13300 has her ranked the same as EoSD Reimu.

The google doc tier list knocks her for mediocre support (hit and crit attack) and lack of breaks. While the nip tier list likes her access to "triple magnification" (buff + debuff + anomaly) and her high damage. Both lists agree that her damage is really good at 3P.

In regards to breaks she does have burn anomaly break at 2P on her focus shot and her skill places 2 burns on everyone, though that doesn't make up for her 2nd spellcard being completely non-elemental. That said, anything weak to sun will be utterly ruined by her last word. It'll be interesting to see how she handles in practice.

>>38919258
113 LW with only access to 2P by herself fucking sucks though

>>38919298
Yup, the list also knocks her for that. Her full solo damage is ranked high at -SS, which is better than the vast majority of the cast, but her turn 1 damage, while good, isn't anything amazing. Exact numbers were posted in the previous thread >>38899772

How many copies of Remi and pizza should I farm for?

>>38921115
yes.

>>38921115
3-turn CRIT ATK UP looks super good so I'm taking this chance to stockpile.

Hello,
Would you like to change your rep for the /jp/ divegrass team? Pic related is this thread's rep, you could either continue custodianship of the sorta general board meme or pick something more directly related to your thread, whatever you prefer.

>>38921327
I think if you wanted to turn this thread into a player, it should be Miyoi because she is the whale 2hu and this a gacha thread. That's very meta.

>>38921469
I like the idea, it's plenty doable if other people want it

>>38921469
Seconding this, I like the idea

>>38921469
I like that idea.

>>38921469
Nice idea, anon. Let's go with Miyoi.

>>38918457
Question for people with EoSD Sakuya: is she really as good as this list says? Or is she a bit overrated here?

>>38921469
>>38921968
>>38922275
>>38922277
Should the name be Miyoi, Whalehu, or something else

>>38922318
She is very good, good breaks on her spellcards and all of them are AoE except her LW. And her LW is 6 fire with getting the majority at 2P which she gets by herself.
Also Yin up + Yin down which helps the rest of the party.
But of the ones I have I feel like IN Reisen > EoSD Sakuya = EoSD Reimu
They all hit different elements so they're not all directly comparable obviously.

>>38922356
Probably Whalehu for the extra gacha factor.

>>38922356
Seconding >>38922551. Whalehu sounds just right.

>>38922707
>>38922551
Sounds good, thanks guys

>>38921469
I actually named my character miyoi because I didn't see her released when I started playing, then I realize it actually fit with my whale personality

>>38922404
Thanks for your take, anon. Real experience >> tier list abstractions any day.

And yeah I'm kinda surprised at how good Reisen turned out to be. Kinda irritated that I didn't grab her. Guess the moral of the story is that a bunch of cheap breaks is guaranteed to be good.

>>38922318
>>38924967
Yeah, she's great. Elements on all her spellcard bullets and great skills. Especially like her party Yin atk up. Only "flaw" is getting evasion on Boost instead of something offensive.
>I'm kinda surprised at how good Reisen turned out to be
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the ZUNhus really. All of them have elements on most if not all of their spellcards bullets, and they've got all the latest powercreep skills. Reisen is just notable for being a good main story farmer, but at the same time she doesn't have useful party buffs.

>>38924967
I think the reason why Reisen feels so strong is because right after she released and as people were finishing building her up a bunch of content she excelled at got released.
The new chapter card could be solo farmed by her. She was the ace in the moon EX event. There's probably something else I forgot.

>>38922318
she yeets

I am disappointed in pcb myon tho

>>38922356
>>38922707
>>38922551
Whalehu, the Poster Girl of LostWord, the Touhou gacha.

>>38926037
>Only "flaw" is getting evasion on Boost instead of something offensive.
Her evasion is insane too, I had entire party wipe in tower and she just refused to die for 5-7 turns straight, without any barriers and on very low hp, she just kept dodging boss endlessly like a real trooper.

I've been playing for a bit over a month or maybe two, have a couple divine dolls, is the wiki right about how worth the upcoming Marisa Reimu rerun is?

>>38933425
Cyber Marisa is still one of the best characters while Reimu isn't really worth the effort of powering up unless you really like Reimu.

>>38933802
Thanks, yeah was mostly going for Marisa. Hopefully before pity kicks in this time.

There she goes.

>>38921469
This please

Is it worth it spending 1250 of my cubes on Mecha Marisa, anons?

>>38935654
Ranincarnation.

Why does she look depressed?

>>38935691
Depdens on if you want any of the other characters they could release in the near future. If you go by performance alone then someone like SFES Flan blows Marisa out of the water.

>>38933425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzoCKrZasuY

>>38935691
I am saving for candied peach butt and loli junko

>>38936065
>>38940282
Considering how Phantasma has been acting you can bet that Killer Flan and alt-Toyohime are coming in less than 3 months

>>38941373
with all the free shit lately I bet the game will be shut down and they're hurrying it up for one last squeeze.

>>38935691
I'd wait for Flan if you want gameplay.
Go for Marisa if she's your favorite.

>>38936032

Someone deserves some headpats.

>>38936032
>>38943746
Oof. Trying a super-ero bunny ninja outfit, only for your daughter to still be sexier and cuter than you, that's killer

>>38946897
It's you.

Oh boy

>>38954107
I fucking knew this Mecha Marisa banner was pure bait! Ready to grab pirate Toyohime then grab SFES Flan if I can afford it or wait for Loli Junko instead.

I have two god dolls and I've been saving them for Reisin, now I have Toyo as well. Fuck.

I'm ready for Space Pirate Toyohime, super Flan, and my wife Sumireko, all at once.
I'm glad they reduced the buyout cost for general pool friends to 100.

>>38954107
>another free divine doll
nice. Hope PCB Yukari comes soon as well

>>38954107
Which card is the Cirno battle going to drop?

Fuck me why did I spark the bait Saki banner? I've got good luck but 700 cubes means rolling for Toyo is all or nothing

>>38954107
Please no EOS
Please no EOS
Please no EOS

>>38954107
Wait gumball Toyohime is B3? That means it's the same world as the mechahus.

>>38956318

>>38959575
That card is not actually limited like that Patchouli card was. It got added ot the pool eventually.

>>38959150
What flag is pointing to a possible EOS? This is more like the last 2 banners were just bait for F2P and now they are forced to bring the cash if they want Pirate Toyo.

>>38961150
Dropping spark requirements on some banners to 100
Monthly divine dolls & another free one
3 different login campaigns at once
Morning/Evening gifts every day for some reason
Rerunning a popular character (Yuuka) without her event
3 Banners going at one time, one of them for a SFes

The sudden surge in giveaways makes me think they're entering player retention mode, which means it isn't growing.
The surge of banners and back to back strong units makes me think they're trying to wring the existing userbase dry.
Paranoia or not that's for you to decide.

>>38959575
So is this Hecatia's new best LW card, right?
And damn I'm once again regretting not getting smug Sakuya. She'll tear up cirno

>>38961257
meh, we've been through this song and dance before and things were fine.

Trying to come up with a decent fire team before the next event shows up. Who're some good alternatives?

>>38964167
If you want to worry, consider that they've started front loading costumes from future events that we haven't gotten yet.

>>38964317
Honestly I’m surprised we even got this far, aside from the fumo boom, Touhou really isn’t that big in the west.

>>38964298
Retro Sakuya and Miko's horse have full fire LW and plenty fire elements on their other spells too. Red Marisa has plenty of fire, Okuu too. Hecatia has tons of fire and her LW and some of the highest damage possible. Poorhu only has fire elements. Even Mokou has fire on her regular shot. Kasen has a fire LW and does good damage. Koakuma has an ok number of fire breaks. There are so many characters with fire bullets, it is probably the most common element in the game. If you had all the characters from the jap version it would get even sillier.

>>38964558
I'd argue wood is more plentiful.
I skipped on almost all of those, however. Okuu doesn't actually seem to be too good since her fire attacks are solo, koakuma doesn't have that much range either. Mokou needs P for all fire damage on her regular shots and her spellcards need 3P for the second shot.
Guess I'll be skipping this challenge as well.

>>38964609
Anything's possible with enough red marisa cards
Stock up

One thing about Fire Ex is that we don't have a whole ton of AoE fire nuking, but plenty of single-targetting Fire-centric last words.

>>38965082
Looks like the critical unit to have this time is ZUN Sakuya. Fire all-target spells + an all fire last word. A shame that they refuse to rerun the ZUN friends.

>>38961257
The 100 spark banners are for very mediocre units to please waifu players.

While I do believe the growth of the game has stagnated, I think it has a pretty solid user base so making tweaks to retain them sounds logical to me.

Push the F2P users too much and you will end up with large loses to the game userbase so tossing extra divine dolls entice them to stay while waiting for the next strong SFES seems fine.

To me LW global feels like a tweaked version of the game trying not to have too many dry spells like JP occasionally has. They will simply toss more retro 2hus and fan favorites every so often.

>>38965714
problem is once we catch up we too will have dry spells

when does week end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y

>>38970024
Nice. I stopped at 10 MLB copies since I don't foresee needing more.

>>38970216
>>38970024
You two are mad.
I stoped at 6

>>38970387
We're all mad here. We're gacha players.

>>38970216
I stopped at 10 thinking that I have more than enough and I won't be one-upped. Big mistake.

Sex banner incoming

>>38970929
Need more Patchoulis. MORE

Tower will be back for jap which is quite interesting because it finally reaches floor 200 so I hope there is some interesting stuff afterwards. Better be teasing new characters instead of just being Reimu & co going "wow that took a while"

>>38971139
Why are they looking at me like that?

>>38971235
I cooked aphrodisiacs into the cake.

>>38970024
knew what the video was before I clicked. Good shit
>>38970929
cool. Her base form had the right spirit but was compromised in silly ways, like her LW having only 1 bullet for all but the first lines. Hopefully this time their execution is more on point.
>>38971139
Not sure if this looks like a good end or bad end

Fire EX Stage Info:
https://gamepress.gg/lostword/guide/fire-ex-battle-stage-info

>>38974476
even more stupid mechanics than moon event

>>38974476
>For the Boss wave, Cirno's 10 turn Graze seal on 1st Gauge Break and 10 turn Graze + Switch seal on 2nd Gauge Break will be the main threats for the entirety of this wave as it limits your ability to prolong survivability and forces you to immediately finish the fight.
yup, I'm thinking I'm fucked

>>38974476
500 successful clears to get a single copy of the card? What?

>>38974767
2500 runs to MLB a card
current event I think I did 1000 runs to MLB 7 Pizza Scarlet cards

>>38974476
>1000 Spirit Points for 100 Event Points 30 times

bruh

>>38974476
Why did they give them even more health?
The complete barrier reset is also cancer
At least Iku increased her AoE damage taken, Cirno just gets harder and harder.

hold up alt toyo is already coming out?

>>38954107
wait so, there's the 1M download campaign that gives a divine doll on the first day and then there's the everyone wins campaign that also gives another divine doll?

I finally got back to reading the story and I feel it's too big brained for me, with all the temperament/mind and "everybody is a sage now" shit

>>38976122
It's easy to justify the absurd bullshit happening with the parallel worlds alternate reality excuse

>>38976122
It doesn't help that it feels like they just vomited as much characters as they could just for the sake of it.
It makes sense since of course a big place would be populated with people you meet for only a moment, but it's still ridiculous how the cast of the entire 3rd part basically tripled or quadrupled in 1 chapter

>>38976122
>>38976876
See, that's where I disagree a little bit. The story for me gets better when you disregard the convoluted shit and enjoy the differently allied 2hus that would never meet in a canon game (such as Alice and Mayumi, I never thought of them but now I think their doll connection is neat) and duking it out with others.

>>38970929
Pouring one out in remembrance of original Patchouli's LW which even with the improved UI has fucking nothing in terms of effects.

>>38974476
God, I might end up skipping Fire EX or at least do a single clear at the very end. I need to skill level Saki, Orin, and the upcoming Toyo.

>>38974476
If you guys want to know who is behind these mechanics:
https://gamepress.gg/lostword/other/live-phantasma-10-summary
>Q: “Did [Phantasma] work on the EX challenges, and if so, what did [Phantasma] think while making it?”
>A (Phantasma): Uh, yeah, I make the EX challenges. As for what I think about making them: we have a lack of mechanics in this game and I want to do more stuff.

>>38977239
>1 bullet with 75% accuracy
>no built-in hit support
it's literally unusable if she doesn't get someone to buff her accuracy

>>38978087
oh, right, or you could just use an accuracy+ story card, duh. Though she really wants that Okina card for 50% more damage.

I've not used accuracy cards in so long that I forgot they existed. It's kinda funny how those cards were super important in the beginning but now they're kinda useless.

I completely retract my statement about the lack of AoE Fire damage, this EX stage is all about solo Fire Last Word spamming.

>>38926782
>I am disappointed in pcb myon tho
Why is that? I noticed that she's the lowest ranked ZUN character on the japanese tier list, but I don't really get why.
>>38978873
Exactly. It probably won't be difficult for those with multiple fire solo last words. But for everyone else git fuk'd

>>38976122
Ok, think of it like this.
You're not actually talking with the characters. They're dead and melted into a boiling pot of temperaments. If you've read each character's temperament, you'd realize they're kind of like the physical or natural manifestation or correlation to their personality I.E: "You're wild like a hurricane"
Now, due to youmu fucking the rules of nature up real good, everything's torn and temperaments are running wild, conglomerating into zones were similar temperaments gather. Since the 2hu's mind are also split up somewhere in that goop of blended nature, the free minds merge into these compatible temperaments and they together make a "body" which is what you've been talking to, but since they're all made up from blended goop, the body is actually a bunch of disordely temperaments and minds of similar individuals.
Here's where the writers have their fun, and this lets them pair 2hus up through unlikely means according to similar themes "these two 2hus like animals, these two are blond, these like dead babies."

A bunrei is a part of god that's split from itself so it can be worshipped at a far away shrine outside the one where the actual god is house. In that way, the "Bodies" you meet can split part of themselves, their bunrei, into other 2hus that are also part of the temperament blended goop that made them up.

In other words, Here's "Alice" but inside her there's also the mind of Medicine and Hina since they shared similar temperaments due to them all liking dolls. It's "Alice" but in reality it's not just Alice, but a chimera of minds and temperaments that looks like her.

I liked this plot, it's an interesting take into the game's take on temperaments, with a flavor of shinto mythology that's not unlike what ZUN does.

>>38978386
I have like 8 phones lying around gathering dust.

>>38979089
Same. These days most characters have built-in accuracy buffs, and even if they don’t you can pair them with someone who can support. Also story cards are so strong now that it’s painful to forgo what’s optimal. Probably better to brute force than use a phone.

>>38978981
I see, that's an excellent explanation, honestly I wasn't feeling it with the whole arena of death thing but the latest chapter was a lot of fun even if the bloated cast was a valid complaint
Also this version of Miko was cool as FUCK

>>38976122
Sages are simply those that are responsible for the current order, and the world, being as fucked as it is, requires more sages to work to maintain it. Sages of the upper world feed life energy to the immature Saigyou Ayakashi through its leaves using the Arena while sages of the lower world feed energy through its roots from the vortex of temperaments.

More energy in the roots = The tree becomes the Saigyou Ayakashi (Bad End)
More energy in the leaves = The tree becomes something else (Better End, maybe)

It's not possible to supply enough energy through the leaves in the upper world using only the Arena before Yuyuko removes the seal on the Saigyou Ayakashi. Therefore, Miko's plan was to to replace Yuyuko's body with her own after resurrecting as a living god and prevent the supply of energy to the roots indefinitely. These are the functions of the sages of that world, but they operate without knowing that the true form of the tree is Youmu herself.

I kid you not, Yukari. She turns herself into the Saigyou Ayakashi. Funniest shit I've ever seen.

>>38978892
Lack of ANY AOE spell cards really really hurts her.

>>38980570
>>38980748
Damn, Youmu the gardener becoming a tree sounds like some Nietzsche shit.

>>38982459
That's because she is flat as a twig

dorks can't be trees. Trees are supposed to be wise.

I used Hecatia and Saki like everyone recommended and it was easy!

>>38983062
Why are you posting here instead of entering Lost Word's world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-zgLO-8CS0

Patchouli's actual LW attacks looks pretty tame after all that build up.

>>38983207
Remimi not gonna be happy that Patche is using her adrenochrome reserves again

>1st 10 roll
Oh what the fug. This has never happened before. Every other sfes I rolled for had to be sparked. Actually not sure if I should roll for dupes or save my cubes for another sfes I otherwise wouldn’t have gotten.

Original Patchouli: fat ass
Retro Patchouli: fat tits

All is balanced is Touhou Lost Word.

As expected I had to spark Toyohime
12 fucking spooks on the way there too, what are the odds.

>>38984493
I had 12 spooks as well for Yori. Spooky

Big numbers

Oh is that it?

Got a consistent minturn going, seeing now if it goes the distance.
5* Marisa is mandatory, 5* Heck is massive overkill
Sakuya more than likely can be replaced with Shion.
You only need 3 Red Marisa cards (1 MLB) & 1 Pizza time.
Thank god for the bomb items, this was actually fun.

>>38986318
>3 Red Marisa cards (1 MLB) & 1 Pizza time.
Is that for each 2hu?

>>38986344
No it's total.
I'm using 3 MLBs but I can't run out of P so I only need 1 and the others can do whatever, hell Midnight Tea might actually work better since it has YinAtk on it.
They're all on their LWs as well, Marisa needs the MLB copy so she has enough P for turn 3.
Pizza time is also on Marisa's SC1, everything else is stat sticks...
...I actually forgot that I have extra red marisa cards on Heck's SC2 and Sakuya's SC1, but the 4* equivalents should be enough.

Looks like someone's got a cheap setup

I wish the Tower's friend selection/party setup screen was the norm. It makes switching story cards and checking friend combinations much more convenient, which would be especially nice to have in any form of challenging content like the Arena or elemental EX stages.

>>38986614
Actually you can change card setup in the tower party screen.

>>38984376
Save your cubes, Divine Dolls are being handed like candy now.

>>38978981
See, I actually really like this story too. But I think I, along with others, would be able to enjoy it more if they stopped using the biggest words possible and convoluted ways of saying simple things. Hifuu suffers from this as well.
The pacing could be better too. Not only are the first two chapters (excluding the prologue) simpler, this huge part only came now in chapter 3.

>>38986526
>>38986318
>>38986065
Shit i had to skip Sakuyalet...

i need a way without her, ive basically got all the other fires

>>38987032
It's really annoying that they refuse to rerun the best characters for these things (IN Reisen and EoSD Sakuya). Do they not want people to spend their cubes?

>>38987032
I figured out this comp since I don't have EOSD Sakuya nor Saki. It seems to work for now but I've yet to test its consistency.

>>38987059
IN Reisen and EoSD Saku only came out a few months ago if that. They haven't even rerun EoSD Marisa yet. Global has a huge pacing issue as it is, don't contribute to it.

>>38987117
Not that anon but they didn't have any problem rerunning Mecha Reimu and Mecha Marisa. Both of them came out after ZUN Sakuya and ZUN Reisen.

>>38987133
Because the Mechas are ridiculously OP and everyone knows it including the devs. My point is we shouldn't encourage these back to back to back.

>>38986780
Exactly, and I'd be happy if the tower party setup screen was also available for other challenge modes, for shuffling around 2hus and cards for daily arena runs or for messing around with EX setups.

>>38986614
Nah they could do better than that.
Let us drag&drop story cards around in the equip menu
Let us filter units by elements
Let us filter units by LW type
Let us filter by card effects, not just stats
Let us access the card upgrade menu from the card select menu
etc.

>>38971139
looks scary

>>38987117
True, but at the same time these EX battle events are special so I wouldn't mind seeing brief reruns of critical characters to allow people to complete them. That's the idea of the moon and fire banners, yes, but in practice L1 characters really don't compare to SFES and ZUN friends. I wish they gave everyone a heads up that content requiring moon/fire breaks was on its way.

>>38988304
But my butthurt aside I’ll admit that having TWO of this banner so people can do multiple cheap rolls was very generous of them.

>>38984493
>12 fucking spooks on the way there too, what are the odds.
That's the statistical expectation, actually. A 5% chance of getting a unit each roll translates to 1 every 20 rolls. With 250 rolls you can expect 12.5 characters (250/20=12.5) or 12 characters with a 50% chance of having 13 characters instead.

>>38987091
So how is it?

>>38987091
If you want more consistency I'd replace Hecatia with anyone that has all-target fire breaks. I assume 5* Shion can kill Cirno just fine, so you want breaks instead. Hell, you might be able to get away with only Marisa and Shion if >>38986526 is any indication.

>>38988304
We knew about the fire one while Hecatia/Junko and Saki/Seki's banners were up, and Shion is up right now. ZUN Sakuya is nice to have, but she's hardly necessary. This one is way easier than the moon one too.

Just wait until they do EX Battle Metal or Earth.

>>38989406
Shion's LW damage is rather bad here because her first bullet is actually non-elemental, not Fire. Only Hecatia is strong enough to actually break Cirno's first gauge. I also don't believe >>38989406 as proof of concept for consistent auto until a screenshot convinced me otherwise. Consistent auto should not gamble on accuracy and/or damage variation as well as favors a lower number of turns as things will have less chance of going wrong somewhere and screwing up the run.
>>38988529
Hasn't been able to achieve 100% consistent full auto yet so I still need to find and iron out the kinks. Now I kinda wish a defeated auto-replay run would be recorded so I can study why it fails.

>>38989501
Metal would be rough. Only real options are Tenshi, ZUN Kanako, Nazrin, and B!Youmu
>>38980780
>Lack of ANY AOE spell cards really really hurts her.
I see. Reisen only has solo cards as well but unlike Youmu her breaks are extremely good. In addition to the solo problem Youmu's 1st card is completely backloaded, which fucks over her metal breaking. The other one is better with 4 water breaks @ 2P... but that leads to another problem where her last word elements are entirely different than her spellcard elements.
>>38990013
>Now I kinda wish a defeated auto-replay run would be recorded so I can study why it fails
That would be a pretty amazing QoL improvement

>>38990013
If your setup is relying on Marisa using her regular SCs to kill of the fairies to reload everyone's LWs then that's probably the area most prone to error since at least on my end it's on the edge.

>>38990013
>because her first bullet is actually non-elemental, not Fire.
I know that, but I figured 5* Shion could do as comparable amount of damage to 1* ZUN Sakuya, especially since Cirno doesn't resist no-element. Don't have her though, so I wouldn't know.
And I'm trying to recreate that screenshot, since I have ZUN Sakuya and Mechrisa. If I figure something out I'll post it here.

>>38990186
You're talking about this? >>38986318
That's me and it's sadly not 100% consistent, like 95% at best.
I've been mesing around with different orders or card setups but everything kinda comes back to the same point.
I will say though that 5* Heck is actually required, mainly so you can use Sakuya to help Marisa kill the fairy instead of topping off any damage an unascended Heck would do on turn 3.
I'm still trying to find something that I'm happy with

>>38990292
No, this one >>38986526
I feel like I'm close to just beating it, but winning in 8 turns is another question entirely. Wish I could test Cirno more instead of having to go through Dai each time.
Adding another character would make it easy, but a consistent 16 SP run is too appealing.

>>38990364
That one seems wild.
Since your grazes get disabled the only way to survive is to break Cirno or deplete a healthbar.
Because of that I think the last few turns have to play out the same way, though maybe he squeezed more mileage out of every spellcard than I did.

Is there any reason to farm the stage? It took me 30 mins to beat with hecatia, rad Marisa and kasen and the auto replay is being a bitch with like 50% chance of failing
And even then I don't go into surplus spirit by trading the points into spirit
I get the whole appeal of beating it, but having to relay on the auto replay afterwards is just aids

>>38990410
The card has Hecatia on it

>>38990364
>>38990401
Made progress. Encountering a problem on the 7th turn where I need Sakuya to use her LW before Marisa, but Marisa outspeeds her. Can't fix it with their skills since the Charge/Quick skills are on the wrong units, and Marisa using spellcard instead turns it into a 9 turn fight. Feels like a consistent 9 turn fight, but hopefully shuffling around story cards takes it to 8.

Ah shit, here I was expecting a bigger challenge than Moon EX since I don't have too many strong Fire LWs ready, but it turns out that while their HP pools were standard, their actual stats were REALLY low so hitting them hard was quite simple.

>>38986318
>>38990292
Damn it the daily reset prevented me from getting a screenshot, but I managed to make some adjustments and the outlook's good so far.
Got up to 60ish runs before the reset.

All these divine dolls and nobody to use em on. Is loli Yuyu any good?

>>38991355
All Water LW that scales with Agility shreds anything with Water weakness and she is very cute

>>38991614
>she is very cute
I wouldn't have picked her up if she wasn't.
I don't any good water friends I think, so I'll probably go for that. I don't think I'll be getting any other sfes friends soon.

>>38961257
You guys have been saying the game is entering EOS for like five months now

>>38987846
I want to be able to save multiple card set-ups for characters. Sometimes characters will be stuck with really weird cards for farming reason but want completely different stuff for Tower.

>>38990714
Figured out an 8 turn solution that seems consistent. I'll do a write-up tomorrow of the story card and actions needed.
Sadly everything is so precise that it won't work without these two. Tried replacing Marisa with Satori and it doesn't work out.

>>38987091
>>38988529
I finally got the correct combination to make the Mecha Marisa/Shion/Hecatia comp work with auto replay. Even without anyone in school, my frontliners still manage to get in 100 runs before exhaustion which is pretty amazing.
>>38993880
Oh nice work, anon. The lower SP cost looks appealing but I don't have EOSD Sakuya to even attempt a derivative of this team. Shame.

Jap maintenance once again 1 hour longer than originally planned. Better be handing out at least 1 SFES doll to make up for this.

This Patchouli is not playing around.

This is my wife Patchouli in her slightly younger but equally as cute years.

>>38994470
Damn she really is a glass canon.

Does her first spellcard inflict 3 burn on all enemies? That's pretty nuts if I have that right.

>>38994540
Yes

>>38994505
Patchy being big never changes

After 10000 years I finally have enough of the Iku cards to actually power it up.

>>38994672
>>38994470
What the fuck, she also has burn break on the same spellcard @ 2P. So she can auto-break 3 barriers per turn. More if she gets help applying burn.

So who else is good at inflicting burn? PCB Yukari can apply 3 to a target. UFO Byakuren can give 2 to the entire opposition. Rad Marisa applies 1 to all and 1 solo with her spellcards. Is there anyone else?

>>38995249
Shion's 1st skill applies 2 Burn layers on all targets.

>>38995249
Junko-chan

Everything in the final 10 floors, including floor 200 itself, only has 1 HP bar.

>>38995723
Oh wait, nvm floor 200 has 2 extra bars. For some reason they did not load correctly the first time. Would have been a joke otherwise.

>>38995723
Only 1 million HP?
There has to be a catch

>>38996310
They block your skills + boost, guard against their weaknesses and reduce AoE damage. In the end it just resulted in my swapping out the front row and bombarding them with spells until they broke which nullifies everything.

It is time.

>>38994077
>>38994077
Would you be able to graze us with your knowledge, sensei? I do have all of those three and no sakuya, and way too much stamina on hand...

Things did not end well for Flan-chan and Remimin.

Who could this mysterious character possibly be...

>>38996995
It was not Mima.

>>38997020
I can't believe sunny milk had a daughter with me

>>38997020
Made for sex

>>38996838
Sure thing. I only did a quick encode of my screen recording to upload to Catbox so pardon the file size. I also included the spell cards in pic related but only a few of them are key, mainly the Remi pizza cards. The rest are stat sticks that you can freely sub out.

https://files.catbox.moe/rboj8o.mp4

>>38996995
>bug catcher
It's the new Ape Escape 4 protagonist

>>38995249
Same story with her single-target spellcard. Inflicts 2 poison to target and breaks poison @ 1P. So Patchy's primary roll seems to be as a break machine for difficult content.

In terms of damage... she's alright https://東方ロストワード.com/?p=13382 . Really struggles when not at 3P. But she gives herself 1.75P so with any spirit power support she can hit 3P on turn 1. At 3P she does a little more than ZUN Reimu at base, but Reimu has wide-ranging slayers so she'll usually be superior. Patchy's slayers are narrow in comparison.

The interesting thing about her damage is that there's a ton of room for support. Her accuracy is not 100% vs all - a rarity these days - so she'd really appreciate some help. She's also a rare case where crit accuracy would be useful. In spite of being a destruction character her crit multiplier really isn't very high, nor are her attack buffs and she has no debuffs aside from burn, but she'll probably be breaking those the same turn she's applying them. Patching these issues up should improve her output considerably.

In sum she is a difficult content specialist. She can break 6 barriers in 2 turns regardless of elemental weakness, and she wants a bit of help in the process. It's worth noting too that all her buffs/debuffs last for 3T, which makes enhancing them with story cards easier.

All of these people beating the Fire challenge with like 3 characters and I can't do it with 6, am I missing something

>>39000905
I have way more than 6 but they are all low level and not enhanced

>>39000919
Again, is there a catch with it or something? I do have Hecatia but I get wiped out when Cirno seals my barriers also I'm not sure when are the spell cards restored

>>39000905
I refuse to give it a try. I play this game to take it easy, not to try hard.

Wake me up when people do the FIR challenge with budget fire units like Satori, Koa, Mokou and the non EX Scarlets

>>39000905
It’s not as bad as I thought it would be. You get a ton of spellcard restore. I was nearly able to do it with just b!youmu, suika, and shion. Ran out of steam at the end and lost two of them only for heck to clean up

>>39000963
What’s your team?

>>39000905
Try using Fire elemental attacks.

>>39001012
>What’s your team?
Satori, Utsuho, Hecatia, Saki, Suika and Koakuma, I'm guessing you get spell card refreshes when you actually kill with it, not when you break the bar

Guess the Hecatia card's drop rate is still terrible just like with Moon EX.

>>39001104
Well at least now they have the shop as a pity system.

>>39001104
I just realised I just barely have enough SP to buy out the cards from the shop.
500 clears for 1 card is just too cruel

>>39001192
At a team cost of 36 and all shop SP I get 1000 runs to try and get as many card drops as possible at a net loss of 6000SP. Otherwise it's 90k SP to get an MLB copy at pity rate. Brutal.

>>39000963
Single-target last words are your friend.

Nuke Cirno down with two single-target last words from two units while a third kills one of her side fairies. The side fairies drop spell items, refreshing your last word, allowing you to defeat Cirno's three health bars in three turns of last word spam.

Here's the 16 SP, 8 turn clear. Takes about 2 minutes per fight.
In terms of stats, Sakuya must out-speed Marisa, so all her non-LW cards boost agility. Marisa gets a non-enhanced Rojo to avoid boosting her agility. Don't know if fully enhanced Photogenic Girls is necessary, but it worked for me. The left-most story card for both units are stat sticks: Sakuya wants agility, Marisa wants HP.

Turn 1: Sakuya 1st+2nd skill, 4th card at 2P. Marisa 1st skill, 4th card at 2P. Both use 3 graze.
Turn 2: Sakuya 3rd card at 2P. Marisa 2nd skill, 2nd card at 3P.
Turn 3: Sakuya LW at 0P to top fairy. Marisa 3rd card at 3P to bottom fairy.
Turn 4: Sakuya LW at 0P to Daiyousei. Wave ends.
Turn 5: Sakuya 1st skill, 2nd card at 2P. Marisa 4th card at 3P. Both use 1 graze.
Turn 6: Sakuya 3rd skill, LW at 2P to Cirno, Marisa 1st+2nd+3rd skill, 3rd card at 3P to top fairy.
Turn 7: Sakuya LW at 3P to Cirno, Marisa LW at 3P.
Turn 8: Sakuya 2nd skill, LW at 2P to CIrno, Marisa LW at 3P.

Notes: You don't want to do too much damage on Turn 1 or 5, or else the fairies will poison you (reduces yang atk). Turn 7 is why Sakuya needs agility: If Marisa goes first, the bottom fairy is killed early and Sakuya's LW isn't restored. Sakuya needs to save her 2nd skill until turn 8, since she loses her crit buff by then and needs the yin def down damage boost. You can try replacing her LW's card with Pizza, but I don't think it's as consistent on turn 6. Only possible failure points are if Marisa dies (she's ended the fight with low hp sometimes), and turns 2 and 7 (couldn't confirm Daiyousei and Cirno were getting overkilled).

>>38994077
Wow, great job. The low SP cost is nice, but honestly it takes so long that I'm tempted to add another unit to bring it down to 5 turns. Your phone's battery is way more valuable than virtual gacha stamina. Maybe replace Hecatia or Marisa with a strong 1* fire unit to bring your cost down a bit.

The daily reset is coming up and I realised I won't reach 100 runs in time for my screenshot.
>>39002292
Goddamn that's impressive, but wow 2 minutes per run sounds brutal, good for running overnight I suppose if you have the SP for it.
I never realised that Sakuya and Marisa were close enough in Agility for cards to sway it in the other direction.

>>39002292
Unfortunately my comp only barely exceeds the required damage threshold so replacing any of them is not an option.
How long does each run of yours take? I'm currently running at 5 turns/2 mins and it feels like I can reach ~200 battles before exhaustion if I have all 3 2hus in school.

>>39002411
Yeah, Sakuya's agility is pretty high even though she has Charge and no slice scaling. Don't know the threshold to make sure she always goes first, but a ~200 difference seems to work well enough.

>>39002553
Is >>38997364 your run? Feels like you could swap Hecatia out for Mokou or Koakuma or some other fire if you take an extra turn to break Cirno's barrier. The nice thing is that Cirno doesn't reuse her solo-damage down buff on her 2nd and 3rd breaks, so Shion+Marisa's LW should finish her off if you use the extra turn to build P. Shame Shion doesn't have a P-boost skill.
And it's 8 turns/2 mins, timed from fade in to fade out. Don't know how yours is taking so long, since you have less turns.

I pulled alt Toyo on a daily. Is she worth investing in or should I stockpile for another ultra?

>>39002894
Eh, both my Mokou and Koakuma are 5* as well so there is really nothing to benefit from there. The only Fire 2hus I still have at 1* are either not maxed or too weak to be useful (Benben). And I may be misreporting the run duration but it feels like it's around 2 mins because my 169 runs >>39001104 take about 6 hours overnight. Guess that's just what I have to work with.

>>39002989
Damn, that's a shame. At least there's a shop this time around. And the non-card drops seem more plentiful than regular event drops, so it's not like you're wasting SP in vain.

>>39002975
she's one of the best characters in the game

Everyone's sharing their runs, sadly I couldn't make it to 100 fights before midnight so you'll have to trust me on this one, over the course of 2 sessions it did 130+ without failing.
It's not as efficient or as elegant as the others, but it makes up for that in speed.
Also I forgot to use Sakuya's grazes on turn 3, but Heca-tan hit for 9 million so I decided to keep this recording.
https://files.catbox.moe/9wvatf.mp4

>>38994505
how good is she?

>>39001277
I think I will pass then.

not mine but

>>39004659
This makes me feel like actually trying it.

>>39004659
Meanwhile I can't complete it with units that actually have a lot of fire breaks

brös...

Close to 500 runs and not a single card drop. Damn this is rough.

>>39004659
>not a single fire break
how the fuck?

>>39005539
lmao, gotta say that I'm enjoying this east/west disagreement with the most recent characters. The nips seem to like her quite a bit in comparison.

Yeah though these rating look about right. Poor farm, turn 1 solo damage isn't amazing, but her breaks are great and so is her damage if she gets help.

I believe in the status effect meta. Even Junko knows, look at her face.

>>39007133
Stop tempting me to get the msgk

>>39007133
Feels like most of the problematic enemies are immune to status, or I'd be using Medicine a lot more.

Someone explain to me how she is supposedly SSS for breaking?
Her AoE SC is element vomit so it's basically useless, her Solo SC has a good spread, but it's basically what IN Reisen has minus the anomaly breaks.
Her LW is the only saving grace with decent coverage at 2P, but that's it. It's still split so it's not the best it could've been.

>>39007328
Her solo spell inflicts poison and breaks it at the same time.

>>39006639
also they said that ran and merlin were only there for accuracy support

>>39003325
Proof that I'm not talking shit

>>39010867
Nice card drop, anon. Hope I will get one soon too.

>>39007328
I think this anon >>39007562 is right. That tier list seems to really like anomaly breaks. Would also explain why PCB Yukari is SSS and Junko is EX.
>Her AoE SC is element vomit so it's basically useless
It's not great but I wouldn't call it useless. So long as the enemy has more than 1 weakness there's a decent chance you can break multiple elements

Finally won the stage that vexed me. That was fucking terrible

>>39005539
Patchouli...barely visible

https://twitter.com/touhouLW_Global/status/1504653821997248515

better get ready, nerds.

>>39017747
They literally can't add Killer Flan to global weeks after adding in the Candy Toyohime this is madness

>>39007194
You WILL roll for Junko.

>>39017747
I actually do hope she drops soon so I don't have to think about keeping the crystals sitting there for her.

>>39017762
They literally can't add her seeing as she is tied to a story chapter we don't have yet.

>>39017747
I'm waiting for Remi instead. I don't care if Flan is mega broken, I like her design more

>>39017747
My cubes and dolls are reserved for the inevitable loli yukari

>>39018630

>>39018630
I'm saving for both, also want to get cheeky brat junko later on, skipping current peach bitch banner with no regret for that reason.

>>39018884

>>39017413
Lol they demoted her another tier for good measure. But yeah specialist characters suffer in combined farm/cq lists like this. Patchy is good in difficult content (so long as they’re not immune to burn) but she’s an awful farmer. So her combined ranking doesn’t really reflect her usefulness.

>>39017747
I hope that they’re going to kick off a ZUN train. We’ve not even gotten retro sanae yet. Also I want my Yukari. I got pirate Yorihime for the sole reason of buffing her crit.

>>39019026
Speaking of junko. For those who have her on jp how did she turn out? In practice does her reliance on anomaly beaks turn out ok? She’s so weird I’m not sure what to think of her.

>>39020769
She is one of the best characters in the game. Here is little Junko beating the currently last main story battle on her own despite having only non elemental spells and the boss only being weak against earth.

>>39021501
or how about the final stage global has

>>39021588

>>39021637
3 turns? I sleep

>>39021501
>>39021588
>>39021637
Cute little space fury.
I still like Flan more, though. Maybe I'll pick up that unfiltered rage (tiny) when I have the cubes for it, but that seems unlikely with how much the global server is rushing content again.

>>39021725
Red Marisa in that battle is tanky enough to surive Flandre's LW.

>>39021637
3T, 12sp? That looks bad. She can do it in 3T with 8sp too.

>>39021992
That's interesting, so is the reason why Mecha Marisa can do it because she gets up to 10 yang on her own? I thought Flan completely overshadows her in the damage department.
Does Red Marisa just not fall victim to any killers for Flan or something?

>>39022256
It's because she has the piercing effect on some of her bullets which combined with her crits gives her just enough damage to win. Even then, she needs to be at 5 stars with the correct card and at around 1900 attack. The number of characters who can actually beat Red Marisa in 1 turn is extremely small. Little Reimu, Mech Marisa and Retro Youmu can do it but that's all 5 stars. Here is how much damage another one of the absolute best characters in the game does in 1 turn.

Also if you want to shitpost, sometimes Red Marisa and her crew just don't really buff themselves so you can pretend characters are a lot better than they really are.

>>39021992
yet she goes down against Marisa EoSD LW on a single turn

>>39017747
I am saving for loli junko

>>39022256
Correct me if I'm wrong but that looks like turn 1, and I don't think flan can hit 3P on turn 1. So her last word will have 4/6 bullet lines active and 3/4 of those are resisted by Redrisa.
How much is resistance in this game again? -50%?

How often does the main storyline update?

>>39026325
Like once every 4 months in global

>>39026346
Thanks you much

Hey new friend here. How is my team looking?

>>39026882
Well Toyohime is probably the best overall character in the game, so that's good. It'll take you a while to max her out though. Other than that Youmu is one of the best general-pool damage dealers, Raymoo is solid with defensive support and a strong last word, Suika is still excellent, Kasen is surprisingly strong at single-target deletion after rebirth, Rin is one of the better general pool units and covers debuffing, and Medicine is there for poison breaks. Merlin can also debuff and Ran, while she's been powercrept pretty hard, can still hit reasonably hard turn 1.

Looks like a solid start to me. If I had started with that I would have been pretty pleased.

>>39027151
Thanks so much for the in-depth response. I absolutely love the artwork in this game.

>>39026882
That Toyohime you have will come in handy

>>39027151
I did some more rolling. What would be a good team comp in your opinion?

>>39029621
This is my current team. I don’t really know what I’m doing but I figured I would use my divine paper dolls on the candy girl and am just making her out in training. Any good links to what story cards to link?

>>39029621
>>39029724
Dude wtf your team is amazing

>>39029739
^-^ yay I’m happy to hear that. I’m glad the gacha gods have blessed me with this game and all the cute girls and artwork. I guess the next thing for me to do is save for next banner? The ultra festival girls are what I truly want right?

>>39031288
Yes, you'll be able to max all the ultra festival girls as long as you spend just a little bit of money on packs!

>>39029739
>>39031399
Kappa hands typed these posts.

>>39031288
>I guess the next thing for me to do is save for next banner?
Yeah, that's the idea. You would want the really powerful units with lots of breaks like Killer Flan or Loli Junko but considering the amount of cubes you have right now you would have to save a lot (1250 cubes) and a lot of coins to be able to spark. If you don't have enough to spark there is no guarantee that you'll roll for that unit. You can also save for the regular festival units if you like. All in all just roll for who you want. Look at the stats for them and make note of any benefit they have. The game is always subject to impermanence so who knows what new OP unit they'll add in next.

oh they uploaded a video of their clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klKEtQL5mMs

>>39031946
Friends died, doesn't count

>>39032155
It's still impressive

>>39031427
I am somewhat of a whale in gacha games so I don’t mind. Will just save for now I suppose. There is no way to get the ultra units off banner is there?

Still waiting on MoF Kanako... Probably be a while.

>>39036416
Correct. Any unit marked as Limited on her banner cannot be obtained outside of specific banners. That includes the currently available Toyohime-alter, Yuuka, Suika, Kasen and Shion, who currently have banners available for them.

On the other hand, Rin, who is also available in the Fire banner, lacks the limited tag. She is a general pool unit who can be obtained from any banner, including the Toyohime, Yuuka and standard prayer banners. Although you won't have the increased odds of getting her that rolling on the Fire banner grants you, nor the potential of sparking her.

>>39036718
They are almost out of SFES characters so they have to start releasing more regular 2hus.

>>39040654
if next event it's fairy theme then Cirno EoSD, maybe Eternity and fucking Wriggle will probably hit the fan

>>39041257
no please just release aunn and eiki at this point

Are the event cards even worth farming or should I focus on the 3x main story drops?

>>39042442
Only one that's been worth farming so far is Remi pizza.

>>39042442
The current event's cards aren't worth, because their effects and stats are pretty forgettable.
Also it's a 3 wave lol

>>39042480
I got 6.75 Pizzas, so I got lucky there
>>39043382
Jesus

>>39042480
I got like 20 pizzas

Isn't that dev event for global today?

>>39041910
You WILL roll for EoSD characters
You WILL roll for the bugs

Jap version has not done 3x story drop rate in so long. It is always just 2x and my luck with that is just terrible.

>>39047033
jp never has 3x story drop rate.

>>39048590
They have for daily quests

Seriously, if there is one thing the global version has a massive advantage in, it is grinding. EX battles for rare story cards, more free spirit and 3 times drop rate. Jap version might have more characters to pick from for grinding but global technically already has all the characters needed to farm every stage the jap version has. If you have Retro Marisa, you can even grind the absolute shit stage from the SFES Flan story without too much investment.

>>39029621
Cool. Yukari is a defensive tank that keeps everyone alive and has a very strong last word after rebirth. She's one of the better early characters. Yuyuko used to be the gold standard in damage but she's been powercrept really hard. Still good in most content, though. Tewi is a potent single-target debuffer.

>>39029724
>>39029621
>What would be a good team comp in your opinion?
Hitting effective elements is big in this game, so your team will be in response to enemy weaknesses. E.g. if someone is weak to fire bring people packing fire.

Other than that there are some combos you could run. You have a ton of shield restore. Yukari and Toyohime restore +2 barrier to everyone, and Reimu and Suika have +2 barrier self-restore. So you could run Yukari, Toyohime, and Reimu/Suika for a team that will literally never die. Yukari/Toyohime also work well together because Yukari has no innate attack buffs. She already does a lot of damage, but with Toyohime giving +6-9 yang attack Yukari will be hitting even harder.
You could run Tewi + Kasen for single-target deletion. No other specific comps are coming to mind right now.

As far as elemental coverage goes you have a good start. You don't really have a star breaker there so keep an eye out for one in the future.

>Any good links to what story cards to link?
https://gamepress.gg/lostword/list/story-card-tier-list
Various wikis have specific recommendations (see OP) but they get outdated pretty quickly. General flowchart for LW card is:
>Accuracy not 100%? Give accuracy card
>Accuracy good but not many attack buffs? Give yang or yin +3 card
>Good with both accuracy and attack buffs? Give a bullet class buffer (e.g. "light bullet damage +50%")

Spellcards follow the same idea but you'll also want to use Spirit Power buffing cards such as "Midnight Tea". In fact for some characters, like the aforementioned Yukari, such cards are necessary and she's really not very good without it.

Another way to look at cards is to consider the inverse: what is NOT useful? Anything that only decreases damage taken is 100% trash. "Spirit power collection rate" is also bad (you want Spirit Power x.xx UP. Not the same thing). Increasing damage is the name of the game here. If a card doesn't do that in some way it's probably not worth your time.

Not spell-checking this. Hopefully not too dyslexic.

https://twitter.com/touhouLW_Global/status/1505383881972756483

2k retweets = 150 cubes

>>39050906

>>39050906
Unleash the bots

>>39050906
Aren't they already doing one of these for a different tweet?

1500+ runs and not a single card drop. What the hell is this drop rate?

>>39048921
>If you have Retro Marisa
Rerun when?

I can't defend the fucking EX stage farming. 2-3 minutes a run and I have to do it 2500 times? .1% drop rate? This fucking sucks.

>>39053210
That's what the auto-replay is for. and bluestacks

>>39053281
That's still over 100 hours of straight farming.

>>39053210
>>39053290
Good. The less people who can MLB this card, the better. Only those who are willing to put in the effort should have it.

So did the global version show anything in their discord event?

>>39053619
Just some QoL stuff and a dev letter (they may have possibly spoiled PCB Yukari via screenshots but they backpedaled and said it's not indicative of upcoming characters).

>>39050942
Yeah but we're not gonna do it by the looks of it
https://twitter.com/touhouLW_Global/status/1503552814550851585

>>39053317
But isn't it a general pool card already in jp? Because if it is, won't they add it to normal prayer pool later and everyone will have it anyway?

>>39051957
If you have Iku, Retro Sakuya, Retro Marisa and Tenshi, you can grind any stage the jap version has right now.

>>39053914
That's because the card was never meant to be the prize for a high-difficulty challenge in JP. Global is not JP. They can and will do their own things. Then again, I'm talking outta my ass and they may still add the card to the general pool down the line but right now I'm inclined to believe that they won't do so.

>>39053914
They can always justify it as an event-only card and never add it to the general pool.

Toyohime...old and busted.

>>39054034
>mfw I don't have any of those characters

>>39056493
I believe they just updated her farming ranking as people have been reporting that she can effectively farm many stages including 2-7-1, 3-3-3, and 3-11-1.

>>39061533
Who are you quoting?

>>39053210
Just be lucky.

>>39062517
So this is what winning the lottery looks like.

>>39062517
Good for you, anon. But most people don't have the luck of the devil to compensate for a shitty farming experience.

>>39061921
>Who are you quoting?
Nobody, why do you ask?

>>39062517
explode
thanks for the comp, I was using something similar but with kasen instead of shion, this one gives better results

>>39061627
I like to believe that someone lurked the thread, saw clears with just Junko and then instantly changed stuff around.

Ugh, for me the entire Forever Prayer thus far have been general pool units I already have. Until today, I got Satori -- I like her a lot, and even though she's nothing spectacular I accepted her since I know with my luck I'd just pull Nitoris and Ayas again.
Who did you guys pull thus far? Already accepted your free pull?

>>39053317
I am pretty sure it will end up in the general pool eventually. All the character specific best cards that were on limited banners went to the general pool eventually. Also, while I am farming the EX stage, I really don't care if I get to MLB a card that is just marginally better than the previous event card that I managed to MLB plenty off.

>>39061627
Yup.

>>39056493
Aaand B!Youmu/Redrisa have once again switched tiers. EoSD!Sakuya is back down with her friends, Keiki gets promoted, and iirc I think Heck dropped one. Looks like they're fiddling with their algorithm. Guessing that single-target LWs got a bit of a nerf, which is probably the correct move. Sakuya felt a bit high.

These kinds of tier lists can be finicky, but at least they're trying to make it reflect objective reality.

>>39064959
Funnily enough Satori is pretty good on this EX stage. 3 breaks for 2P is pretty great. Shame her entire skillset is dedicated to reducing enemy offense.

>>39065072
Pizza's longer duration makes it better on spellcards too. The Hecatia card has only a single slot in the game where it wants to be.

>>39063276
Stop listening to the voices in your head, anon...

>>38970929
EoSD Patchouli has 69% accuracy on her spells.

>>39065364
So that makes her yeet at 100% then like OG Flan?

>>39065107
Sakuya has been amazing for me, while nudork I barely use. Would be nice if just 1 of her spell cards was freakin aoe.

>>39066314
It's a similar idea, yeah. She needs help to patch up her accuracy, though her case isn't as extreme as flan's is
>>39066335
Having only all-target spellcards with full elements is just really good. I'll be rolling for her for sure when they do a rerun.

>>39056493
newfag here.... i just rolled Toyohime, is she good only for her skills? or should i dump more cubes for extra copies?

>>39064959
I got Yorihime and accepted her, just because it felt weird having Yorihime and Toyohime's SFES versions and then normal Toyo but not the normal of her sister.

>>39065072
>All the character specific best cards that were on limited banners went to the general pool eventually
None of those are event-only cards.
>a card that is just marginally better than the previous event card that I managed to MLB plenty off
It's 2 levels of CRIT ATK up for the whole party for 2 turns on a card, which makes it as good as the best skill on various 2hus. While not meta-defining, I think that splashability is highly valuable.

>>39064959
I got Jo'on day one and took her even though I don't particularly like her. In the first forever prayer I passed on a character I would've been okay with day one in hopes of getting someone that wasn't useless, and nearly came out with nothing to show for it. After that I decided I'd keep the first Fes character I got and didn't already have no matter how I felt about them.

>>39066560
Her skills are arguably the best in the game, to the point that she can breathe new life into older characters. Being able to max out party yang attack over 2 turns is not a trivial thing. Yang attack +0 -> +10 is akin to giving a character a 4x multiplier.

So she's useful even if you don't max limit break her, but of course she's better if you do:

Her last word does good moon and water damage even with a sub-optimal story card (there's no liquid +50% right now) and it's mid-loaded so she can use it turn 1 without much loss of damage. Her single-target spellcard both inflicts poison and breaks it so she gets 2 auto-breaks on the entire cast. She hits those weak to water/moon really hard with this one and can full break in 1 turn vs some. Her all-target spellcard does damage comparable to ZUN Reimu's which is the gold standard in spellcard damage these days. It has good slayers so it'll crit vs most the cast. It's also mid-loaded so it'll put in work at 2P.

Her only shortcoming is the rainbow elemental spread on her all-target spellcard. It's generally seen as better to focus on breaking a lot of a specific element than it is to break everything a little bit. But it's not that bad of a weakness. She also doesn't buff crit damage any in spite of having good slayers, so support from a character like her sister would be appreciated. Lastly while her damage is good it's not up there with the top damage dealers. But she's still better than most the cast.

>or should i dump more cubes for extra copies?
Do you want to use her just to support or to also deal water/moon damage? Do you want more cubes or more divine dolls? Apparently we're getting 1 divine doll per month now, so they're not as uncommon as they used to be. If you're new you might want to prioritize cubes so you can expand your roster faster. You'll be able to MLB your SFES units eventually (4 months max assuming this continues). Up to you though. If you want to MLB ASAP then roll for dupes.

>>39067119
>It's 2 levels of CRIT ATK up for the whole party
oh shit I didn't even notice. That's pretty cool. Pizza on attacker + Hecatia card on a support would mean 4 crit atk up for 3 turns. Nice.

>>39066560
Heals scale with the max HP of the person using them. A lvl 70 Toyohime will have babby HP while a lvl 100 5 star Toyohime has the highest HP in the game.

How does Toyo farm stages like 271?

This is pretty amusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPo9RwczKjc

PCB Yukari solo farming 3-18-3 at 8sp. Only problem is that it takes 14 turns.

>>39067119
Well, EX battles are more like mini events than anything else. After all, the card we are talking about was recently added to the JP general pool.

This event is more about getting the possible privilege to use such a strong card much earlier than everyone else.