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>Guide 1: https://learnjapanese.moe/

be sure to read John's religion/story
>How I got 180/180 on N1 in ~8.5 Months!
https://rentry.org/9pe4o

But essentially what John's method religion IS:

* Start reading every day (and listening)
* Go through a grammar guide (like Tae kim or Cure Dolly)
* Go through a common vocab deck (like core2.3k)
* Mine stuff into Anki that you encounter in your Japanese media

A detailed guide of what John did can be found on
https://pastebin.com/0ANbbfHR

*John Bless your gains


>Guide 2: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/


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>> No.38968114

>>38968050
>21 thread links
disappointed in you op

>> No.38968214
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>>38968050
based, much better thread, love you op thanks

>> No.38968226

Today I learned that bootleg games in Japanese are literally called 海賊ゲー. That is surprisingly straightforward.

>> No.38968227
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>>38968050
time for evening anki

>> No.38968250
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38968250

japanese is cool but og is cooler

>> No.38968254

>>38968250
dame

>> No.38968255

>>38968250
take your meds

>> No.38968275
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>>38968250
>og is cooler

>> No.38968301

>>38968275
og bros... not like this...

>> No.38968384
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>>38968050
This is why Im learning japanese.

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38968427

today as-for, djt at writing exists.

>> No.38968440

Reminder that best immersion is achieved by watching something you're actually interested in. Don't just watch whatever, find something that suits your interests.

>> No.38968454

>>38968384
dameeee

gyaru bros gmi

>> No.38968466

>>38968384
行動

>> No.38968549

yoshi, another day of brute forcing 30 new words and not retaining anything

>> No.38968566
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38968566

>>38968549
based i think

>> No.38968591

Let's go to Japan and be fat

wagmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJHMlkZxdNo

>> No.38968599

>>38968591
im not fat tho, id eat her tho

>> No.38968611

>>38967769
gmi

>> No.38968627

>>38968591
You wouldn't be able to stay fat in Japan unless you literally can't live without McDonalds. The most common and cheap food is really low in fat, and you'll be doing a lot of walking.

>> No.38968658

>>38968627
based

>> No.38968704 [DELETED] 

Is it true that male trannies can produce milk after getting HRT?

>> No.38968741

sure why not

>> No.38968743

>>38968704
high

>> No.38968751

theyd be female at that point no?

>> No.38968779

>>38968050
wow shes cute

>> No.38968795

>>38968549
give up
>>38968566
toxic positivity

>> No.38968813

>>38968779
its og, note the book says gfe, stands for girlfriend experience, which og delivers by fucking off for weeks at a time then popping in for two posts before leaving again
>>38968795
All energy is natural. Learn to accept both bad and good vibes.
>>38968549
gonna make it

>> No.38968825

>>38968813
hadn't thought of it like that

>> No.38968846

>>38968813
no ur energy is fake asf

>> No.38968847

friendly reminder to delete your targeted sentence deck TODAY and convert to vocab cards for maximum efficiency and optimal gains!

>> No.38968858

>>38968846
you’re gmi in spite of your negative aura, anon. in fact, we’re all gmi!

>> No.38968894

>>38968858
yeah im gmi because i have strict discipline and genuinely enjoy anki and reading japanese works
people who are failing and pushing themselves despite it are ngmi

just wu wei it

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>>38968858
>>38968894
true true
EVERYONE IS GONNA MAKE IT!

>> No.38968905

>>38968894
>i have strict discipline
you dont need it
>genuinely enjoy anki
doesnt matter
>reading japanese works
partly
>im gmi
probably not

>> No.38968936

>>38968902
ur just in your own little world lol
>>38968905
ok

>> No.38968968

>>38968936
>ok
im right but you wont be around by the time you will have failed, just like the hundreds of ngmi retards in the trash pile who fuck off. theres no difference

>> No.38968970
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38968970

The whole idea of "gmi" and "ngmi" is stupid because there's no endgame here. You can't actually learn any language. You might think you know English, but any English linguist would put your ass to shame, so can you really say that you "learned" English like you would learn a poem or something? Because you certainly haven't learned all of it.
Language is infinite. You will be walking this road for as long as you're using the language. You will get better, but you will never be perfect. So stop trying to find a finish line where there is none, and enjoy the process instead.

>> No.38968972

>>38968936
thanks! i agree with you on the importance of discipline, but i think those who refuse to give up, have it too
its a marathon not a sprint
also agree youll make it bro

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38968980

love watching my anki dick get bigger

>>38968968
i said that cuz u havent actually wrote anything of your own opinon lol not sure how to respond

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>>38968970
excellent post holy shit, so what you are saying is we already made it?

>> No.38968997

>>38968980
dame yep this anons making it

>> No.38969013

>>38968983
As long as you're learning - yes, you made it. Now go make more.

>> No.38969015

The whole idea of "swimming" and "drowning" is stupid because there's no endgame here. You can't actually learn any skill. You might think you can swim, but any professional swimmer would put your ass to shame, so can you really say that you "learned" how to swim like you would learn a poem or something? Because you certainly haven't learned all of it.
Swimming is infinite. You will be swimming this road for as long as you're in the pool. You will get better, but you will never be perfect. So stop trying to find a finish line where there is none, and enjoy the process instead.

>> No.38969016

>>38968980
i wrote my own opinion right here >>38968968 noob

>> No.38969026

>>38969015
Unironically true, this is the mindset of real athletes.

>> No.38969030

>>38968980
Nice. So what can you read comfortably at this point? Also, what anime can you watch without feeling lost?

>> No.38969032

>>38969016
i can tell ur low t so dont even try lol

>> No.38969044

>>38969032
try what? you think discipline or loving anki makes any difference. every ngmi retard like you thinks hes special and different from others but they all go into the trashpile and fuck off. thats why i said you probably wont make it

>> No.38969057

>>38969015
this is an amazing post, saved
thanks anon im glad i was able to witness such a post, unironically, hadn't thought of it like that
>>38969032
don't mind that anon, he's not well
not that you need me to tell you

>> No.38969058

>>38968846
i think the same. i think there is something going on with him that he needs to always be like that.

>> No.38969062

>>38968970
I can't speak for everyone, but ime when most people say 'gmi' or 'ngmi' they aren't talking about learning a language completely, but learning it to a point where they can (or can't if they don't make it) comfortably understand content they want to consume.

>> No.38969066

>>38969044
lol ur grasping ever since i posted my anki stats

>> No.38969070

>>38969058
he really isn't well

>> No.38969079

>>38969066
? your stats are garbage lmao. ciaran has 30k mature cards and youre not even half way there

>> No.38969085

>>38968050
Today is the day i finally start learning japanese.

>> No.38969086

>>38969079
lol so that did bother you

>> No.38969088

>>38969079
who?
what does that matter anyway?

>> No.38969098

>>38969085
based
https://streamable.com/70z4hl

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>>38969086
i know you really wish your garbage stats mattered but i havent changed my tone since before you pathetically posted your screenshot

ill show you how worthless your deck is
vocaroo this pic in 5 minutes or youre pre beginner trash

>> No.38969118

>>38969079
what about you? how many cards?
>inb4 i don't do cards
aight do a vocaroo and dazzle us with your skills
>inb4 i don't output
what do you do exactly then? cant your imaginary friend swing his own deck?

>> No.38969124

>>38969111
you first

>> No.38969126

>>38969111
where's YOUR vocaroo?

the only trash here is you

>> No.38969149

>>38969124
lol shit your pants noob? what happened to the gmi big anki dick energy? discipline and idiot cards not helping you huh lmfao loser trash

>> No.38969155

yep schizo lost

>> No.38969159

>>38969062
That is a very nebulous point too. "Comfortably understand" might mean different things to different people, and fluency is also difficult to define. You might be fluent in one subject, but have a hard time with something that you're not interested in, like flowers for example. But you speak fluently otherwise. Are you fluent?
Basically, always study. Don't think you'll ever reach a point where you can stop studying. Even at the highest point of fluency.

>> No.38969167

5 minutes and no vocaroo
18k cards and hes still pre beginner trash lol

>> No.38969168

dame schizo snapped again

>> No.38969177

I can't read anything without jisho

>> No.38969179

easiest win of my life

>> No.38969184

hope he gets the meds he needs on day

>> No.38969194

>>38969159
I don't disagree with what you're saying here, my only real point was that I think your op about gmi / ngmi was unfair, because it starts, at least for most people ime, from a false premise - specifically, that they think you can completely learn a language.

>> No.38969197

>>38969177
How did you study Japanese?

>> No.38969199

>love watching my anki dick get bigger
love watching noobs humiliate themselves. he really was just another ngmi retard

>> No.38969218

>>38969015
>hurrr durr language acquisition is exactly the same process as training for a sport
these are the retards who tell you you’re ngmi

>> No.38969226

you don't have to call me retarded: I already know I am

>> No.38969227

disregard the sudden influx of negative shakra itt, we’re ALL gmi, every single one of us!

>> No.38969241

>>38969218
It is similar, except you're training your brain, not your muscles. But the same ideas apply - repetition, a smart approach, and passion.

>> No.38969242

>>38969030
what do you think? hes a moron who doesnt know any japanese and copes with his idiot card count, except his stats are also pathetic lmao

>> No.38969247

>>38969227
true i just ignore not well anon, poor thing, i don't think he even knows whats going on most of the time

>> No.38969254

>>38969167
not him but it's not wise to dox yourself in order to prove some random nobody wrong.
maybe he sucks but it doesn't matter

>> No.38969256

42
>please!!! pay attention to me someone!!! im lonely and sad, look how cool i am, i owned him see, i owned him so hard!!!

>> No.38969266

>>38969241
>broscience intensifies

>> No.38969270

>>38969254
not him either and i agree i would literally never post a recording or picture of myself anywhere on the internet

>> No.38969278

>>38969015
hey auntie, this isn't facebook. can you please stop posting cringe motivational crap with that patronizing smell?

>> No.38969284

>>38969254
i think the random nobody is triggered particularly hard cause he himself sucks

schizo kun is having a particularly energetic night

>> No.38969286

>>38969247
>>38969256
hes trash but youre unironically n5 garbage, there is nothing more pathetic than your worthless commentary from the side lmfao

>> No.38969287

>>38969015
this is dumb because swimming isnt infinite, theres a finite potential you can train to and the rest is genetics

>> No.38969289

>>38969242
please try to be kinder anon. we’re all on the right path, we’ve just gotta keep walking!

>> No.38969300

>>38969289
true true! i love positive anon!

>> No.38969301

>>38969254
hes a literal who pre beginner who cant read japanese despite 18k cards, who the fuck would want to dox him?

>> No.38969307

>>38969015
good post

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38969310

>>38969227
i WANT the negativity. i use it as fuel. don't give me some limp dicked crap that makes my t levels go down. i want HATRED. i want all the doubters wrong. give me that negativity.

>> No.38969318

>>38969310
well okay you in particular wont make it, retard, better?

>> No.38969342

>>38969307
bad post, terrible analogy, unlike language swimming isn’t infinite, there’s a hard limit based on physiology, age and other factors. that said—we’re all gmi!

>> No.38969348

>>38969284
>schizo kun is having a particularly energetic night
you've called me schizo kun before (the post you're replying to). how many schizo kuns are there? are they with us in this room right now?

>> No.38969350

this moron destroyed himself and proved me right. discipline and anki dont matter. youre not special retard

>> No.38969354

>>38969310
it doesn’t work like that. negativity breeds failure. i still believe that you’re gmi though because we’re literally all gmi!

>> No.38969359

>>38969350
discipline definitively matters when it comes to language learning

>> No.38969365

>>38969348
huh? schizo kun is the retard spamming about how hard he won and how cool he is, i was agreeing with you, sorry if my post didn't communicate that well, i meant no offense to you, and agree with your post

>> No.38969370

>>38969359
not the kind of discipline he was talking about. every confident noob thinks he is disciplined but most of them still fail and fuck off

>> No.38969372

>>38969359
it literally doesn’t. you could do no cards and only an hour of reading today but the next day do all the cards and immerse for 6 consecutive hours and guess what, you’re still gmi either way!

>> No.38969378

there is no schizo-kun. 4chan is just a negative place by default due to the nature of anonymity but you can't handle that fact so you created a boogeyman

>> No.38969382

>>38969348
howd you even get that from that post? its very clear who he was talking about

protip: its the pigeon that kicked the chess pieces and shit all over itself

>> No.38969387

>>38969382
the anki anon is the schizo?

>> No.38969390

nah that anon really isn't well

>> No.38969393

>>38969350
i just went to go make dinner and came back to u still mad so i definitely won lol

>> No.38969403

>>38969393
yep anki anon won

>> No.38969406

>>38969393
you dont know a lick of japanese and your deck is worthless lmfao what a win! pathetic

>> No.38969414

>>38969393
he is seething so yep, you won

>> No.38969430

>>38969393
your deck size really triggered him lmao the deck envy is real

>> No.38969444

>>38969354
what is your belief worth? you're just saying things that have no effect. it's just wasted words. do you think words are imbued with magic and they have the power to bend reality if they get repeated enough times? NO

>> No.38969449

>>38969430
not much to envy there, his deck size is pathetic and he doesnt know any japanese lol. just another worthless ngmi noob who thought he was special and humiliated himself

>> No.38969498

we're never gonna make it because japanese is impossible. give up and learn more useful things instead

>> No.38969513

don't care still making it

>> No.38969514

>>38969498
https://youtu.be/O98bNz1p-JQ?t=35

>> No.38969526

lmfao the anki noob is the same autistic retard who was coping the other day
>>38929769
>>38930101
>>38930118
>>38930199
he is 100% ngmi

>> No.38969532

Any good place to talk in japanese for learners?

>> No.38969535

>>38969197
Anki, cure dolly, tae kim, and tsukihime. Only started a month ago, though

>> No.38969548

>>38969532
what do you mean? do you want to talk to other learners, or actual natives?

>> No.38969563

>>38969526
nah that aint me
he smells low t just like you

>> No.38969568

>>38969532
skypech, italki, 5ch if you got a proxy

>> No.38969584

>>38969548
Doesn't matter, as long if it's a place for learning Japanese through having a disscussion without being a laughing stock for having shit grammar.

>> No.38969585

djt is a time sink

>> No.38969595

>>38969030
He hasn't started learning japanese yet.

>> No.38969624

>>38969585
i agree but can’t help myself from coming back. good thing I’ve never tried crack or something

>> No.38969650

nothing djt says will ever faze me
the perks of being 6ft and good looking

>> No.38969652

>>38969449
his deck looks fine, stop bringing beginners down with your negative aura, we’re all on a shared journey here, some of us such as yourself are lost on a negative path but don’t worry because we’re all gmi!

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>>38969652
holy based
>>38969650
good looking tall bros we making it

>> No.38969669

>>38969662
jks are so erosu

>> No.38969676

>>38969662
god i love japanese women

>> No.38969698

>>38969662
imagine all the manko we'll get in japan

>> No.38969709

>>38969698
gonna make a jk mucus pool in my inaka rice paddy and grow gourmet rice

>> No.38969726

>>38969709
acquired 愛液水稲

>> No.38969779

gonna immerse in this today
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ285868.html

>> No.38969806

>>38969709
ok this thread is kinda better

>> No.38969838

>>38969779
駄目
>>38969806
morning bunbro

>> No.38969842

>>38969806
ってのは分かりませんでしたでもすみませんあるいはおめでっ等ごさいます

>> No.38969845

>>38969838
my mornings always start with a mucus dripping message from obasan

>> No.38969851

>>38969842
ございますね〜
わあ

>> No.38969859

>>38969845
yum

>> No.38969862

>>38969842
>>38969851
ywnbj

>> No.38969874

>>38969862
miss og saying this

>> No.38969897

>>38969862
そうかもしれんが
もっともっと深い話が出来るようにならなきゃ

>> No.38969900

When you see a wall of Japanese text, is your immediate response to almost brace yourself in preparation for battle? Do you unconsciously tense up in order to “tackle” the text? Do you have an underlying sense of anxiousness that you won’t understand what you read?
From asking around, I noticed that attempting to read or listen to raw Japanese triggers a mild stress reaction in a lot of people. And it appears that some Japanese learners never really unlearn that habitual reaction. They get to their 20th book and instead of relaxing and trusting what they know as their eyes calmly glide across the page, they still relate to every sentence like a test they have to pass.
I made a thread a while back asking people “when did reading Japanese start to feel automatic for you?”. I was very surprised to hear that almost none of them had experienced an automatic-feeling flow of reading yet, despite some having read over 40 books!
Now I’m starting to think the reason that experience is so common might be because many learners went into Japanese in the first place with the belief that it looked really really hard and complicated to understand — causing them to tense up in the face of raw native material in anticipation of the difficulty, and they just never really trained themselves to stop doing that, or even noticed they were doing it at all. As result, that lingering habit of strain and tension blocks flow state from arising, and blocks reading from feeling easy, no matter how much practice they've gotten.
Chances are if you’ve read more than 15-20 novels worth of Japanese, you should be able to relax, look at the parts of a sentence and notice your brain naturally coming up with the accurate meaning and reading most of the time, without feeling like you have to squeeze it out of yourself.
Any strain is usually only necessary to make sense of things that are new to you (for example stopping to look up a new word, seeing how it fits in the sentence). And even that can be done with an orientation of open curiosity to learning something new, rather than of strain and brute force.
I challenge you to try it. The next time you’re about to read or listen to anything in Japanese, check that your body (shoulders, neck, jaw, eyes) feel relaxed, take some deep breaths, and then patiently get a feel for the sweet spot of least effort necessary to comprehend the text (or audio) accurately. If you have a decent amount of experience with native input already, I think you'll find that most of the time, most of the knowledge required to comprehend without struggling is already there in you from past experience, so you can just relax a bit and get used to letting it arise naturally. In effect, training yourself to read more like you do in your native language.

>> No.38969905

>>38969874
same dame og was so cool

>> No.38969911

>>38969900
i usually masturbate furiously, well not that much fury really, depends on the day i guess

>> No.38969926

>>38969900
reading takes effort even for natives

>> No.38969930

>>38969900
when i see an english wall of text on 4chan i skip it

>> No.38969932

私の名前はアリ。2月前東京にいてた本当に本当に暑いていた。東京の熱い天気は好きじゃないその日も気分がよくありませんでした悲惨でした。初日、私と母。新宿ガーデンに行きました美しかった。それから明治新宮に行きました.神社の乙女はアニメの女の子のように見えません笑私は驚いた.

>> No.38969939

>>38969900
good post og

>> No.38969945

>>38969932
よ!
まんこを見せて下さい!

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>> No.38969996

>>38969779
looks neat

>> No.38970001

>>38969932
>>38969945
ywnbj

>> No.38970014


simplified form in japanese: 応
simplified form in chinese: 应

things didn't need to be like this

>> No.38970026

>>38969779
looks like a bit much to handle, might need a hand with that, think i might grab it myself

>> No.38970040

>>38969779
wholesome

>> No.38970041

thank god some kanji got simplified in japanese too.
they look scary in their original form

>> No.38970049

theres no scary kanji

just cowardly men

>> No.38970052

https://streamable.com/a8uz1f

>> No.38970089

>>38968250
true true

>> No.38970128

wotd: 磽确

>> No.38970133

>>38970052
true true

>> No.38970150

>>38970049
楽観 = 樂觀

>> No.38970174

kanji are like vegetables; taste like shit but they’re good for you so eat ‘em down!

>> No.38970179

>>38970150
樂 is super cool big fan of 會 too

>> No.38970182

邊 - > 辺
海邊 -> 海辺

>> No.38970185

>>38970150

>> No.38970207

https://youtu.be/YJnFch6ru3Q
睡眠導入otd

>> No.38970256

>>38970207
駄目エロス

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>>38970207

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when you see how these symbols were actually intended to be used in chinese you can't help but think that the japanese writing system is the stupidest writing system ever devised in the history of mankind

>> No.38970362

>>38970356
elaborate

>> No.38970371

>>38970356
and yet you are learning japanese and not chinese

>> No.38970372
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>>38970362

>> No.38970378

>>38970371
the writing system isn't the language though

>> No.38970405

>>38970372
cool very interesting

>> No.38970416

>>38970372
>hentaigana
dame

>> No.38970435
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>> No.38970459

https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/hentaigana-history-of-japanese-writing-system/

>> No.38970464
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38970464

vocaroo

>> No.38970508
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38970508

I survived another day, but my again count is fucking terrible. How do I pick up words faster? I do a bit of reading, but my again count is still shit. I'm still doing core2.3k. At least my retention is going up

>> No.38970528

>>38970508
what am i even looking at

>> No.38970536

おはようおにいちゃん

>>38970464
しょがくしゃに

にょろにょろもじをみせてはいけない

えいごとルーン文字くらいちがう

>> No.38970537

>>38970508
you're overthinking this shit. just do your reps and forget about it

>> No.38970540

>>38970536
>にょろにょろ
もっかい..... ゆって?....!

>> No.38970541
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Fuck having most new cards be mined vocab instead of easy to study stuff like kanji with mnemonics makes anki actually kinda hard.
I feel like I've flunked half+ the cards I added yesterday LOL.

>> No.38970553
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I'm going to start adding pitch accent to my cards, even tho I'm not focusing on it better start early anyway.
Which one of the 3 should I use? I'm guessing graph?

>> No.38970587

>>38970536
初学者だと?
ふざけるんじゃねぇよ
ここは博士しかいないスレッドだよ

>> No.38970594

>>38970553
{pitch-accents}

>> No.38970596

>>38970587
newfag

>> No.38970599

>>38970508
focus mostly on memorizing word readings, you’ll establish and retain meaning better during immersion. create mnemonics for the readings you’re struggling with, the stupider and more nonsensical the better. for example, for 暴れる I came up with “the music of Abba (あば) makes me act violently”. dumb, but it gives you both the reading and the meaning.

>> No.38970624

>>38970587
へ〜

>> No.38970635

>おっぱいマウスパッド童貞を卒業しました
yooo the mousepad had sex

>> No.38970665
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38970665

>> No.38970675
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>>38968050

An mpv-based video player for studying Japanese

https://github.com/ripose-jp/Memento

>> No.38970772

>>38970594
It says "no accent data", do I need a specific dictionary for it?
While I'm at it, is there a better kanji (not vocab) dictionary than the "default" one from yomichan?

>> No.38970775
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38970775

>According to legend, Chinese characters were invented by Cangjie, a bureaucrat under the legendary Yellow Emperor.

>Inspired by his study of the animals of the world, the landscape of the earth and the stars in the sky, Cangjie is said to have invented symbols called zì (字) – the first Chinese characters.

>The legend relates that on the day the characters were created, grain rained down from the sky and that night the people heard ghosts wailing and demons crying because the human beings could no longer be cheated

before anyone complains 漢字 = chinese characters so it's on-topic

>> No.38970781

>>38970772
https://foosoft.net/projects/yomichan/#dictionaries

>> No.38970783

>>38970775
>漢字 = chinese characters so it's on-topic
how is it on topic if it's chinese?

>> No.38970787
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>>38970781
Damn it's really ugly tho LOL

>> No.38970795

>>38970783
because japanese is written using 漢字

>> No.38970801

i boot up qolibri to check the pitch of a word or two like once a month

>> No.38970811
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>>38970787
you can change the css

>> No.38970838
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>> No.38970840

>>38970811
I don't know css. yet.

>> No.38970847
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38970847

i googled this because this sounded so unreal and what I found was even more hard to believe.

>> No.38970858

>>38970847
it's to break you down and make your obedient

>> No.38970865

>>38970847
there was underwear checkups recently where teachers randomly selected girls to check
i remember an article where they apologized and said they will stop doing it

>> No.38970883

>>38970838
abe disaproves

>> No.38970885

It's no wonder japanese and korean kids have the highest suicide rates in the world.

>> No.38970893
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38970893

Why are you learning Japanese?

>> No.38970913

i have to understand china first in order to understand japan
so how do i into chinese history

>> No.38970921

wait, so all those doujins i read about teachers raping their students were actually based on reality?

>> No.38970953

>>38970921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NTb8aHy5wI

>> No.38970998
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>>38970953

>> No.38971004

>>38970998
personally this one is hotter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oZSVlQJhCY

>> No.38971023
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38971023

anime is saved

>> No.38971031

Is there a nice parting gesture I can give my Japanese teacher before the semester ends, I don't want to give an actual "gift" even though that's the courteous thing to do in Japan (I'm not in Japan)

>> No.38971032
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>> No.38971036

>>38971004
should have 褒めるd his 書道 skills
that 手マン looked pretty

>> No.38971043

>>38970953
when will the new words stop appearing, man?
>代入
i wish i could go a day without seeing a new word

>> No.38971054

honestly dont know if i could keep myself from hitting on an obasan japanese teacher

>> No.38971056

>>38971023
i read this it was surprisingly boring but ill chug the anime anyway

>> No.38971065

>>38971043
never. even matt is finding new everyday.

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>> No.38971084

>>38969900
I don't feel anxious at all, at the most I start getting tired of reading Japanese after 30 minutes or so, and sometimes I get embarrassed because of the weeb culture surrounding it (then I try to remember that it's a real language and not "weebshit")

>> No.38971097

What's the Japanese term for big round gravity defying tiddies?

>> No.38971119

>>38971054
i think its cute, also its easy to brush it off as a joke

>> No.38971156
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38971156

Is there a way to make the mined word on the front of the card be really easy to spot on the sample-sentence in the back?
Like in the image, I want that "taru" to be easy to spot at first glance without always having to read the entire sentence, especially if it's longer.

>> No.38971166

>>38971119
she's married. have some respect.

>> No.38971174

>>38971166
wouldnt if she was married

>> No.38971220
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38971220

Do you guys keep more than 1 Mining deck to keep things organized (like 1 for vocab, 1 for kanji, 1 for stuff mined from the phone thru akebi), or do you dump everything in 1 deck and call it a day?

>> No.38971227

はんとしにひとりくらい

古文でtrapされるあのんがいるってことは

たわいのないにほんごにも

ときに古文がまじっているのでしょうか

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>>38971220

>> No.38971275
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>> No.38971293

>>38971220
i like to make one big dick

>> No.38971297
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38971297

>>38971156
you can replace those b tags with something else, like font color or a class with css on your anki template

>> No.38971339

>>38971297
nta but thanks
fuck, i should have googled about this sooner

>> No.38971349

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-HraqlddKA
transcribe this

>> No.38971374

{cloze-prefix}<b style="color: blue;">{cloze-body}</b>{cloze-suffix}

>> No.38971399

>>38971374
bitcoin miner

>> No.38971427

>>38971374
Ransomeware, don't run

>> No.38971433

https://twitter.com/cheesesama24/status/1503305827171844099

So romantic

>> No.38971456

>>38971433
cute

>> No.38971475

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moiho9VuMCU&

>> No.38971499

國 -> 国

what an improvement

>> No.38971526

>>38971297
>>38971374
I guess I'll give up the furigana in the example sentence for this, thanks!

>> No.38971531

>>38971499
all the simplifications in japanese were good
chinese took it too far

>> No.38971534

>>38971499
Both are fucking unreadable without zooming in

>> No.38971543
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>> No.38971555

>>38971543
where do i find a gf like this

>> No.38971572

>>38970838
noooo jk bros we must hurry wtf

>> No.38971583

>>38970893
for this! saved!

>> No.38971591

>>38971023
yabeeeeeee

>> No.38971603

犬系男子やってます

>> No.38971611

>>38971220
i have 4 decks but im actually insane so

>> No.38971614

>>38971603
why is the verb yaru used here?

>> No.38971622

Decks are for fags
I do wanikani and even when I burn in vocab I can't remember it irl until I use it several times in conversation

>> No.38971624

>>38971555
in japan but maybe go for the ones that charge for the rimjobs

>> No.38971632

>>38971614
yaru = to have sex
犬系男子(と)やってます

he's having sex with a furry, i think

>> No.38971639

>>38971054
you're too much of a pussy to hit on anything

>> No.38971645

>>38971632
lol

>> No.38971648

>>38971639
doesnt matter have obasan

>> No.38971651

>>38970838
BAN SCHOOLGIRL

>> No.38971655

>>38971543
I live in Japan
It's very common to see schoolgirls offering free anal lickings on the streets of Saitama

>> No.38971660

>>38970838
no but seriously i thought ponytails were the less sexual version of loose hair

>> No.38971676

>>38971655
Nice. I will have to go there once.

>>38971660
Ponytail = bj hairdo

>> No.38971677

>>38970801
i never have to

>> No.38971686

>>38971676
>Ponytail = bj hairdo
do you really have to

>> No.38971688

>>38970838
jkponytailbros... its over...

>> No.38971690

>>38971639
are you fucking retarded? how do you think he got the 3 or so net duckbuddies hes had in the last month or so if not by hitting on them? god fucking damnit you virgin fucking shithead you spend all your time creeping him you could at least follow the fucking show what the fuck

>> No.38971697

>>38971690
tbf all it really takes to get started is saying かわいい

>> No.38971706

>>38971655
yosh any street in particular you recommend?

>> No.38971718

>>38971697
that eh

you realky talk to high quality women i see

no matter

>> No.38971726

>>38971718
obasan says nobody calls her that

>> No.38971731
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>> No.38971735

>>38971726
...
im going to bed
... my whelms are over

>> No.38971740

あたしはせんそうには詳しくないけど

アフガニスタンのその後を調べたり

シリアの空爆を調べたりすると

ウクライナnewsに飛ばされる


ddgでもグーグルでもおんなじね

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>>38971676
The nape stuff reminded me of this hentai.>>38970838

>> No.38971748

>>38971735
idgi but gn

>> No.38971750

>>38971731
wotd うなじ

>> No.38971751

>>38971731
too much photoshop, she looks plastic

>> No.38971763

>>38971750
i had to look that up so many times for some reason

>> No.38971769

>>38971745
og!!!!

>> No.38971791

>>38971763
for me it was こめかみ for some reason

>> No.38971818

>>38971718
lol go back to red*it you retard you obviously don't know anything that goes on in these threads

>> No.38971861

>>38971690
stop trying to live vicariously through bunko

>> No.38971911
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>> No.38971912

>>38971750
there's no うなじ in that pic though

>> No.38971921

>>38971912
yeah i meant to quote >>38971745

>> No.38972020

>>38969079
don't use my name in your petty squabbles

>> No.38972029

黒髪ロング let down > anything else

>> No.38972048

https://youtube.com/shorts/eJx9BBv4-k8?feature=share

>> No.38972054
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38972054

happy white day femanons of djt

>> No.38972093

>>38972054
I'm trans, so thanks
Give me all your load
Of gifts
Inside me box
Inbox

>> No.38972106

>>38972029
this

>> No.38972229
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>> No.38972242

fr fr

>> No.38972288

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ebod00901/
yoooooo

>> No.38972315

>>38971726
wanna guess why

>> No.38972325

woaaahhh holy fuck!!!1!1!

>> No.38972340

>>38971911
god i want her to say that to me when i'm about to bust on her (og's) face

>> No.38972354

>>38972315
because japanese men would rather just watch anime
also because she hides her oppai

>> No.38972378

>>38972288
how do you say pancake nipples in japanese?

>> No.38972418

>>38972378
More like pizza nipples

>> No.38972463

>>38972354
lmfao you're insane

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>> No.38972499

>>38972354
kawaii is not about oppais u re;tard

>> No.38972538
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38972538

>>38972288
why are japanese allowed to blackface?

>> No.38972564

>>38972288
saves this for the yoru*

>> No.38972576 [DELETED] 

>>38972538
Because Japanese are a smaller minority than niggers (the majority on earth)

>> No.38972611

>>38972463
whats your guess

>> No.38972666

>>38968214
what's the third kanji?

>> No.38972679

>>38968227
are there more like this?

>> No.38972683

hanzi\kanzi have a mysterious feel to them that i like but they still suck

>> No.38972699

>>38972538
tanning is racist?? the sun is racist???

>> No.38972726

>>38972683
like seeing retards with retarded kanji tattoos or with kanji on their car or something

>> No.38972734

>>38972699
according to twitter sjws it is

>> No.38972751 [DELETED] 

>>38972734
According to twitter SJWs pooping is racist because it's a parody of giving birth to a nigger baby

>> No.38972755

imagine eating og tanned anus wouldnt be that crazy haha

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>>38972755
og has a sunned anus, not tanned

>> No.38972900

reading a jap article about how to make a kakkoii signatures for my new signature. gonna add some epic 書道

>> No.38972926
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>> No.38972966

another quality bunko post, this is why i'll defend him to death

>> No.38973014

but what do japanese people read in order to expand their kanji knowledge?

>> No.38973046
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38973046

おはよう。anyways, it's time for my reps.

>> No.38973057

>>38973014
They don't need to. Japs are born already knowing them all

>> No.38973084

>>38972966
https://youtu.be/zeczYRhjXNQ?t=3

>> No.38973092

wait! before you come shooting at me.

let's say it's 1962. you're a japanese guy who has drilled thousands of kanji and now you want to read a difficult book. so you start reading it and you come across a kanji you've never seen before. do you just look it up in a paper dictionary and then move on? do you try to memorize it to able able to write it?

>> No.38973115

followed by funny zoomer humor

>> No.38973135

>>38973046
gmi

>> No.38973147

>>38973115
you are giving me the reaction i want
actually laughed at this one tho
https://youtu.be/aCVLznpWS7s

>> No.38973186

>>38973092
If you find a word in english you don't know, looking it up once is probably enough to remember it "forever" if you ever see it again in context for just about any kind of vocab.
I'd expect fluent japanese people to be the same way for kanji/japanese words.

>> No.38973195

爾汝

>> No.38973205

>>38973195
よ...よめた

>> No.38973276

>>38973092
just ask ur kaachan

>> No.38973326

>このレビューは参考になりましたか?
what retard was saying ni naru doesn't mean is?

>> No.38973339

>>38973326
stop thinking in english

>> No.38973342

>>38973186
>looking it up once is probably enough to remember it "forever" if you ever see it again in context for just about any kind of vocab.
lol

>> No.38973356

>>38973147
>i wanted you to think that i'm retarded

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>>38973356

>> No.38973378

>>38973339
it has nothing to do with english you retard the japanese themselves understand what some 'being' is and what something 'becoming' is

>> No.38973397

>>38973378
well ok
even in that case なる = become

>> No.38973400

>>38973373
can you do anything but reply with unfunny images and youtube videos? no? didn't think so

>> No.38973418

>>38973400
can you do anything but suck my dick lmao

>> No.38973444

>>38971603
>>38971614
does anyone know?

>> No.38973482

first day at wor:
i forgot half of the kanjis i learned.

>> No.38973494

>>38973397
it's not?

>> No.38973499

>>38972755
誰にでも簡単に股を開く女ですよ

>> No.38973509

i thought になる with the sense of to be is usually in the になっている form

>> No.38973530

なる is always become
you can translate it as to be in some cases but the japanese word is always the same

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>>38973326
Fixed expression much?

>> No.38973553

>>38973530
lol here you go outing yourself as a dekinai again

>> No.38973556

セックスになる

>> No.38973563

>>38973549
yeah with naru in it

>> No.38973564

>>38973553
post one case

>> No.38973580

>>38973530
embarrassing

>> No.38973625

>>38973564
i'll give you 23
https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B

>> No.38973654

>>38973625
didnt click post it here

>> No.38973657

bunkowned

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>> No.38973755

>>38973530
true true

>> No.38973766

>>38973654
>エオリア諸島は7つの火山島からなります。

>> No.38973774

>>38973766
bruh

>> No.38973803

>>38973766
>>38973326
lol there's no helping people like this it's not worth it

>> No.38973805

>>38973774
is that a concession?

>> No.38973815

>>38973803
^^^^

>> No.38973824

b***o lost

>> No.38973825

*yawn* crazy that the people who think words only have one sense don't know japanese

>> No.38973844

>>38973825
you are relying on internal english translations to understand what those sentences mean

>> No.38973845

>>38973815
so it is a concession, ok. must suck learning japanese for 4+ years and still coming up with fanfiction about how it works

>> No.38973854

Any quick video to get the gist of pitch accent?
I don't want to care too much about it, but just enough to be aware of it while I study.

>> No.38973858

>>38973844
the dictionary literally gives different meanings for naru, the japanese themselves understand that there are different meanings but unko who can't even get a decent result on the n1 thinks he knows better lol

>> No.38973860

i was never fond of this argument that a word can only have one sense even if the other meanings are derived from the original one

>> No.38973889

>>38973858
all of the meanings of なる are derived from one single meaning that can be felt within all of them, besides stuff like 参考になる is literally the english "become", not even a different usage which shows you dont actually understand the literal meaning of what you're reading here making this discussion pointless

>> No.38973896

>>38973860
because it's a retarded argument and if people took one second to try it with english they would realize how retarded they are being

>> No.38973901
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japan is the safest country in the world...

>> No.38973918

why can't eops wrap their head around the idea that you don't have to translate

>> No.38973919

>>38973889
if you're going to pull that shit then show some proof instead of saying they all have the same meanings cause it doesn't look like it does to me and it doesn't look like the japanese think it either based on what definitions they give in the dictionary

>> No.38973931

>>38973896
a good example would be "awesome", i think

>From awe + -some; compare Old English eġeful (“fearful; inspiring awe”).
>(dated) Causing awe or terror; inspiring wonder or excitement.

>> No.38973935

>>38973901
was that some white guy streaming in public?

>> No.38973948

>>38973918
japanese don't have to translate and they still understand it as different things based on dictionary definitions

>> No.38973951

>>38973901
it is indeed (no sarcasm intended)

>> No.38973969

>>38973918
i think what he is saying is that if the japanese felt the need to give more than one entry to the definition of the word that means the first one wasn't enough to encapsulate all of its meaning and because of that you could argue that it has more than one meaning

>> No.38973976

>>38973901
safest doesn't mean completely safe. you don't even know english, how are you gonna learn japanese?

>> No.38973997

>>38973935
judging by those hands it looks like that fat biker guy maybe he got beat up cuz he owes money

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>>38973935

>> No.38974114

>>38973919
the dictionary is showing how its used and narrowing down the usages to a specific meaning to better explain them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that なる itself means 20 different separate things
the word itself has a fundamental meaning which is WHY it is used in those ways, and it's extremely obvious to understand how this came to be
your example >>38973766 here clearly at its most fundamental meaning is something like "the aeolian islands becomes from 7 volcanic islands" i.e. in the thing known as the aeolian islands comes into being from the existence of 7 volanic islands
the problem you are having is that this isnt natural english so you are forced to think that it means something else so that it fits your internal mental translation

>> No.38974135

>>38973901
>>38974024
so the japanese were keeping their country safe from druggies commiting crimes in public?
based

seems like you proved your point and it really is the safest country

>> No.38974141

>>38973901
those guy who assaulted him were speaking english lol nice of the gaijin to police other gaijin for free

>> No.38974161

>>38973931
this is a good example for how language evolves based on original meaning, it's pretty easy to see why what it means today is ultimately based on an original fundamental meaning
people didnt just start saying "awesome" to mean what it does today randomly, it's because they used "awesome" in situations to describe something that is spectacular and that usage became the common one, but it still fundamentally means the same thing

>> No.38974163

>>38974114
>the word itself has a fundamental meaning
dude you're just pulling this shit out of your ass unless you actually show some thing more than >trust me bro

>> No.38974166

曲 of the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd6kufQ7ONc

>> No.38974181

>>38974114
>into being from the existence of 7 volanic islands
but it doesn't it's already into being and it's just composed of, with that much mental gymnastics you can then say naru means to come

>> No.38974194

>>38974161
>how language evolves based on original meaning, it's pretty easy to see why what it means today is ultimately based on an original fundamental meaning
ok retard what about 'tire' by what logic is it 'to get tired' and 'car tire'?

>> No.38974230

>>38974181
"the aeolian islands" is a manmade concept, it only exists so far as people call it that
but you are just thinking about this from the perspective of english meaning and not the japanese word, the word なる encompasses things that "become" doesn't, but that's just the easiest way to describe its fundamental meaning in english because we obviously don't have the word なる

>> No.38974231

>>38974194
just trolling now? also its tyre esl chama

>> No.38974235

would you say that this verb is expressing the same meaning in these examples?
>I got a sudden pain in my left eye
>it's getting late
>I got to the airport
>What do you mean? I don't get it

>> No.38974240

>>38974194
tire as in "im tired" and tire as in "car tire" come from completely separate words, they aren't two meanings of the same word, so your example is pointless

>> No.38974266

>>38973845
while you were typing that i was on the phone with obasan and she was saying ずっといてね

>> No.38974303

SEXになる

>> No.38974309

>>38974303
https://streamable.com/ybo8nt

>> No.38974345

>>38974235
yes
"got a pain" -> have a pain
"it's getting late" -> [the time/the day] is becoming to have property lateness
"i got to the airport" -> i gave the airport the property of having me in it
"i don't get it" -> "i don't have [the understanding required]"

>> No.38974357

Självförakt

>> No.38974358

i picked a crazy long vn

>> No.38974365

>>38974266
and?

>> No.38974371

i got to the airport means i got transferred/taken to the airport, you just imply the action
with i get it you imply that it is the meaning of something, so get doesnt actually mean understand in that case but you imply that it is about the understanding
or if you say i get you you imply that you means your point of view

>> No.38974379

>>38974240
now prove that the different meanings of naru don't come from different words

>> No.38974387

>>38974365
i know enough japanese
>>38974379
lol just stop

>> No.38974393

>>38974379
any dictionary will do that for you

>> No.38974397

>>38974266
what is ずっとく?

>> No.38974456

>>38974345
by that logic both give and receive have the meaning of become and they both also mean each other
>i gave him -> he became so that he has what i gave him
>i received from him -> he became so that he had the not having of the thing he gave me

>> No.38974468

>>38974345
not do it for "get out"

>> No.38974497

>>38974230
>but you are just thinking about this from the perspective of english meaning
no i'm think about it in terms of actual meaning which is what dictionaries do
>the word なる encompasses things that "become" doesn't, but that's just the easiest way to describe its fundamental meaning in english because we obviously don't have the word なる
so it doesn't mean become and it also means is ok we agree

>> No.38974519

>>38974114
correct post

>> No.38974524

>>38974387
>i know enough japanese
u don't
>lol just stop
keep conceding

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38974537

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deSXMeIfKrY

yeah kiara is going live so you guys can stop discussing and start watching

>> No.38974543

>>38974393
ok show me where

>> No.38974546

>>38974497
>so it doesn't mean become and it also means is ok we agree
it doesnt, it's just that the equivalent idea for "become" in japanese can be used in ways that it can't be in english like the above islands example
your contention completely ignores the reason why なる is even used in the first place in japanese

>> No.38974556

wish jamal was here so he could say i was right in one short line and end this discussion
>>38974524
>u don't
i decide that

>> No.38974565

>>38974345
>"i got to the airport" -> i gave the airport the property of having me in it
is it correct to say that this "got" is synonymous with "arrive"?
is it correct to say that this "got" is synonymous with "have"?

>> No.38974591

>>38974543
when you look up a word in a dictionary it separates the words based on their etymology
thats why 鳴る and 成る have separate entries even though they are both なる, otherwise they'd all be in the same definition
if there was no such thing as fundamental meaning there would be no reason to separate 鳴る and 成る and they could just be more entries

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acquired 椎茸

>> No.38974624

戯れはここまでだ

>> No.38974647

DJT bros, Muv-Luv has a one button switch between english and japanese.
Does that mean it's the perfect immersion VN?!
I'm going to download it rn.

>> No.38974689

>>38974647
you shouldn't be switching to english so no

>> No.38974726

another thing, if you think からなる means "is" or whatever then what does から mean in that sentence?

>> No.38974750

>>38974726
>what does から mean in that sentence?
the same as より

>> No.38974755

>>38974750
and what does that mean

>> No.38974785

since から means より
腕によりをかける
腕にからをかける

>> No.38974804

feel it out

>> No.38974810

>>38974785
縒り and that より are different though

>> No.38974825

>>38974689
Idk if I agree, switching to english once in a while in place of pasting what you don't understand on deepl is fine to follow the thread of the story, understand phrases you wouldn't otherwise, and eventually immerse more.

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>> No.38974843

>>38974834
salsa

>> No.38974855
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38974855

JKiara

>> No.38974857

>>38974834
No blackmail! Bad kouhai!

>> No.38974861

>>38974785
dumb as fuck just give up bro

>> No.38974890

hinto: speech is about more than just meaning.

>> No.38974904

>>38974810
proof?

>> No.38974919

ah he's just trolling now all the stupid posts makes more sense

>> No.38974946
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dame

>> No.38975019

whats wrose than bunko? holofags.

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>>38975019

>> No.38975053

so when i watch raw anime i am supposed to watch the episode without pausing and not bothering to look up words and shit, right?

>> No.38975060

>>38975019
have a feeling you dont like bunko or us because we know japanese
its alright, youll get there one day too

>> No.38975105

>>38974546
but the japanese themselves don't view it as because since it's just one of it's definitions in the dictionary

>> No.38975113

>>38975053
you are allowed to pause three times per episode, make it count

>> No.38975123

>>38974546
>completely ignores the reason why なる is even used in the first place in japanese
which is?
>>38974556
>wish the guy who doesn't know japanese was here to give his useless opinion
you can just ask your obasan you retard lol

>> No.38975134

a mix of pausing, jsubs and just letting stuff go is best
>>38975123
>you can just ask your obasan you retard lol
あのさ
「なる」って日本語あるじゃん?それいつも「なる」なん?

>> No.38975136

>>38974556
>i decide that
student can't decide if he is good

>> No.38975150

>>38974591
that's because they use different kanji but the issue is there even for words with the same kanji

>> No.38975165

>>38975136
i can understand everything obasan says and i can say everything i want with the nuances i want

>> No.38975167

>>38975134
nta but a more appropriate question would be to ask if it can act as a copula

>> No.38975181

>>38974825
you should never be using deepl wtf lol

>> No.38975186

>>38975167
how do you say copula in japanese

>> No.38975196

a copula guys walk into a bar

>> No.38975220

>>38975019
bunko is worse since he is basically just a idol retard for his obasan except she isn't even cute

>> No.38975224
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38975224

seems like something the normal japanese person wouldnt know or care about

>> No.38975240

>>38975134
yeah don't stress it bunko you couldn't properly ask with your level of japanese anyway

>> No.38975243

>>38975186
actually forget that. i'm talking out of my ass

>> No.38975246

>>38975240
wow my self confidence is crushed

>> No.38975256

>>38975165
because you're both talking in babytier japanese

>> No.38975266

>>38975246
no you're too dumb for that

>> No.38975270

you realize the old woman doesn't respect or care for you at all she is just using you for sexual gratification because you are what is available.

>> No.38975277

>>38975270
thats hot

>> No.38975285

>>38975277
not when we're talking about some ugly old woman

>> No.38975291

I need a good japanese onomatopoeia dictionary search engines are only shitting diarrhea in my face again

>> No.38975294

>>38975224
the article mentions it

>各言語におけるコピュラ
>日本語
>日本語では、例えば、「だ」「です」「(で)ある」「(で)ない」「らしい」「ようだ」「ちがいない」「しれない」「そうだ」「になる」などがこれにあたる[要出典]。

>これらのうち、「です」「である」「になる」などは存在を表す「ある」という語から派生してできたものである。

>> No.38975304

>>38975270
at what point is it love though
also lol some people here saying women only pretend to like sex to appeal to men and then others claim the opposite but it all feels like im on r9k

>> No.38975305

>>38975294
lol bunko btfo'd

>> No.38975328

>>38975304
i hope nato invades ukraine and putin responds by nuking your country

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38975338

>>38974689
>>38975181
you should. those are no different than looking up words with yomichan or looking up grammar points. they're just one of the cheating methods that facilitate learning the language. see http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39069

what you shouldn't do is read the translation without making an attempt at deciphering the sentence (and you should also always try to "reverse-engineer" the sentence after viewing the translation). but this caveat applies to all cheating methods. for example, you shouldn't look up a word in a dictionary before making an attempt at recalling what it means.

>> No.38975347

>>38975294
doesnt really say anything related to my original point but ok
>>38975328
lol seethe

>> No.38975355

>>38975347
>doesnt really say anything related to my original point but ok
keep coping lmfao you really don't know japanese the jlpt is actually accurate

>> No.38975362

>>38975355
>から派生してできた
doesnt mean they are the same

>> No.38975367

>>38975338
that's a nice story but in reality looking stuff up in the dictionary is better than deepshit

>> No.38975376

>>38975362
that is literally irrelevant

>> No.38975391

>>38975376
ok you win
will you stfu now

>> No.38975395

>>38975338
maybe if you're looking at the mythical "literal translation" that eops love it'd make sense but not with a tool like deepl
just use a dictionary

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38975398

fits well for bunko. imagine the taste of ger nuclar manko.

>> No.38975409

>>>/vg/376087589
think ill replay this game in japanese

i thought from games were written in english first because they only have english voice acting

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38975417

not sure is everyone hating on migaku. but i sure love using it.

>> No.38975449

>>38975417
way too colorful

>> No.38975486

>>38975367
and just reading and understanding everything immediately is better than looking stuff up in the dictionary. no shit. obviously translations are for when you still can't understand the sentence after using yomichan.
>>38975395
yes, use a dictionary. and use translations too. and use the tone the character speaks with. and the CGs. use all means available to make the input comprehensible but also no more than necessary for any given sentence.

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>> No.38975715

>>38975294
>「らしい」「ようだ
are you suggesting that these mean "is" as well? just because it's a copula isn't relevant
>>38975376
it's not irrelevant, two things being a copula having etymologically similar backgrounds doesn't mean they have the same meanings
are vanilla and vagina the same?

>> No.38975816

there's no actual evidence that になる and ある share the same etymological root anyway
the classical japanese なり comes from from にてあり, but なる had always existed in classical japanese as a separate verb

>> No.38975911

>>38971911
dame og looking fine

>> No.38975922

>>38972538
gyaru is love

>> No.38975934

>>38972966
this but unironically, bunbro is the best poster here and im tired of lretending he is not

>> No.38975951

>>38973418
he can't! its too tasty! om nom nom nom he sucks it! "ahhhhh tasty bunchin chin!" - that retard

>> No.38975970

yep bunbro WON
not even close

>> No.38975975
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38975975

>a new week on japans streets

>> No.38975981

>>38973901
true true

>> No.38975990

love how unko didn't want to become jamal but is currently copying him 1:1

>> No.38976003

>>38974537
is she a chicken farmer? cause sge really knows how to raise mine

>> No.38976011

>>38974855
dame finger lick8ng good

>> No.38976019

>>38975060
true true, holokings we won

not well anon loses again

>> No.38976034

>>38975167
i love copulating personally
>>38975270
wow you really owned him thats horrible haha

>> No.38976039

>>38975715
sure but it's more than you have to show for why naru means only become and nothing else

>> No.38976048

>>38975328
appeal to nuke is such a lame concession

>> No.38976052

>>38975486
you're not going to understand them even if you look stuff up and even if you deepthroat yourself, but looking shit up in the dictionary is better than deeptrash which is basically garbage and of negative value

>> No.38976058

>>38975975
based jetblack trucker bro

>> No.38976070

i mean if shes lying shes pretty crazy

>> No.38976072

ahhhh every good post replied to and even some bad ones for charity time for anki

>> No.38976078

>>38975715
>are you suggesting that these mean "is" as well?
yeah cause they are

>> No.38976085

>>38972054
thanks!! ヾ(*'。(’ー’*)ノ

>> No.38976090

>>38976078
you're not me though. i'm not suggesting anything. i just posted what the article says about japanese copula. people can make their own conclusions.

>> No.38976093

>>38972666

>> No.38976096

>>38975816
they don't have to share etymological root for them to share meanings
>>38976070
she is crazy but she wouldn't have to be you just don't know anything about women (or japanese)

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38976100

おつけものたべたい

ザワークラウトにちかい

>> No.38976112

>>38976096
(´・_・`)

>> No.38976113

>>38974166
very nice

>> No.38976121

>>38974537
shes so hot bros>>38974647

>> No.38976125

>>38976052
deepl isn't that trash when you compare it to google translate

>> No.38976130

>>38976112
going to really enjoy it when she ghosts you.
you said she might come to visit, why isn't she doing it now?

>> No.38976133

>>38974855
cute >>38974946

>> No.38976142

>>38976125
>this piece of shit tastes better than that other piece of shit

>> No.38976148

Respond to my post in the other thread.

>> No.38976151

>>38976142
can you give an example of it being pure shit?

>> No.38976153

>>38968250
wtf is this og???

>> No.38976155

>>38976130
shes busy with work
she works literally every single day

>> No.38976163

>>38976130
damn, og, you're getting mean

>> No.38976164

>>38976153
she was the model yes
>>38976148
post it here bro cmon

>> No.38976167

>>38976151
do you think there aren't any examples of it being pure shit?

>> No.38976172

What sites do you use to browse for potential Japanese reading material?

>> No.38976175

>>38976167
i just want to know why you're feel so strongly about it being trash

>> No.38976177

>>38976155
lol nice excuse and that's going to change cause?

>> No.38976180

>>38976163
that's not og, you can tell cause og is not retarded, ergo any retard post can't be og

>> No.38976189

>>38976180
og believes in 星占い and paganism

>> No.38976190

>>38976172
nhentai.net

>> No.38976197

>>38976180
finna fuck og retarded

>> No.38976200

>>38976039
i said it means only なる, but the closest thing we have to describe that in english is become, but it doesn't mean "is"
it can sometimes be translated to "is" because english "become" wouldn't be used in the same situation because of the way english works (e.g. literally translating 参考になる as "become something that can be of use as a reference" or simply "become a reference" when you are trying to say "i hope this is useful to you" or whatever wouldn't be acceptable)

>> No.38976204

>>38976177
shes working on it
is what she says and i believe it

>> No.38976206

>>38976190
Stop it with the funny business! ٩(╬ʘ益ʘ╬)۶

>> No.38976209

>>38976200
>but it doesn't mean "is"
they literally have a dictionary entry for it as です you retard

>> No.38976213

>>38976177
shell retire
>>38976172
eromanga time, syosetu, hukumusume, news web easy (nhk.jp), amazon.jp come to mind, tadoku if starting out

>> No.38976214

>>38976204
working on what lol, you think some old woman want to come live with you in your shitty dorm and do nothing all day lol if she does come she'll be out of there in 3 days tops

>> No.38976220

>>38976197
get in line
>>38976189
based

>> No.38976222

>>38976220
>based
but is it though

>> No.38976225

>>38976200
>it can sometimes be translated to "is"
so it means is ok nice self own

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>>38976175
ah yes, the magic of deepl, surely you can't go wrong using this to check your understanding.

>> No.38976230

sigh no new delicious party precure this week
on the bright side i found a neat little device that i plan on buying once the paycheck comes in that i will be using to play final fantasy 1-6, dragon quest 1-6, mother 3, and a bunch of other nes, snes, megadora, gameboy, etc games i haven't played yet

>> No.38976235

>>38976213
>shell retire
lmfaoooo

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>>38976230
forgot my image

>> No.38976242

>>38976214
she says being in my room and doing echhi is a デート

>> No.38976243

>>38976222
sure why not? 星占い has got me laid more than once, chinese one in particular is great

>> No.38976246

>>38976209
only on wiktionary and only because they're accepting a common mistaken usage in バイト敬語 where people replace です with that because they think it's just a polite way to say です
you're basically saying "of" can mean "have" because people mistakenly say "i should of"
if you think it means です in constructions like 7つの島からなる then you're simply idiotic

>> No.38976249

>>38976239
nice saxophone

>> No.38976250

>>38976213
Thanks! ٩(◕‿◕)۶

>> No.38976257

>>38976230
every party you attend is a delicipus party bro

>> No.38976261

>>38976225
no, it doesn't mean "is", it's just that you wouldn't say "become" in english in those situations as i said, so an alternative translation is chosen that doesn't have the same literal meaning
the original word itself still means what it means, and the english is different because it has to be
it's possible to translate やつ as "incel" but that doesn't mean it means incel

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>> No.38976265

>>38976249
unironically high iq post

>>38976257
hehe

>> No.38976267

>>38976243
lmao

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>>38976250
no worries enjoy (((((*^o^*)//

>> No.38976272

>>38976242
>she says
and she won't do anything lol, god damn you're a retarded virgin lol

>> No.38976278

perfect position to mount pekora in

>> No.38976283

poor lady probably just feels young again by flirting with bumbro i don't think it'll ever lead to anything serious

>> No.38976290

>>38976206
nta but i have 1200 doujins bookmarked. its a very good site to find potential japanese reading material. also hitomi.la

>> No.38976293
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wtf, i never realized this

>> No.38976295

>>38976246
>common mistaken
lol you're fucking retarded
>you're basically saying "of" can mean "have" because people mistakenly say "i should of"
nice one esl, people say "i should've" which is short for "i should have"
>7つの島からなる then you're simply idiotic
never said it means desu in that sentence, but it can also mean is

>> No.38976301

>>38976272
lets see

>> No.38976304

>>38976290
are they all doujin or are some of them erohon there's a big difference and as a learner you should know the proper terminology

>> No.38976305

>>38976172
sad panda, vndb, tachiyomi with a bunch of raw providers for manga

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>>38976278
noooo bunnies are pure not lewd!!

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>> No.38976315

>>38976308
i will rape you

>> No.38976318

>>38976261
the reason it means is is because that's what it means, become has a certain meaning and so does is and in some cases naru means is

>> No.38976328

>>38976283
of course not
>>38976301
when? we'll be waiting till the end of time for it to happen lol

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>>38976315
eeeeeeppp!!!
*blush

>> No.38976334

>>38976309
send this to him
>you're a fucking faggot stfu

>> No.38976335

when and who let the faggot into djt

>> No.38976336

>>38976304
dunno. i just fap to whatever i feel like

>> No.38976338

yep bunko won

>> No.38976341

not again... looks like bunko lost

>> No.38976344

yh he won the kenri to suck my nuts

>> No.38976346 [DELETED] 

>>38976328
weak
anyway everything so far points to that shes serious
shes crying on the phone saying thanks to me for finding her

>> No.38976350

bumbro that's a big oof and a yikes like unironically she's a granny and that's cringe

>> No.38976351

why do you have to tell us this?

>> No.38976357

>>38976293
good post

>> No.38976367

BUNKO WINS

FLAWLESS VICTORY

>> No.38976368

https://dojgdeck.neocities.org/
There are 3 books in the series for basic, intermediate, and advanced grammar. Does this deck cover all of them?

>> No.38976369

yea ok trynna quit again lasted a few days last time

>> No.38976370

>>38976295
>nice one esl, people say "i should've" which is short for "i should have"
lol just look for "should of" on twitter and you'll see many natives say this
if なる means "is" in that sentence then what does から mean? you are clearly thinking in english if you think the literal meaning can be "is" because it requires ignoring the から entirely

>> No.38976375

>>38976369
only thing you should quit is biting every piece of shitty bait bro

>> No.38976376

>>38976369
>few days last time
wasn't it more like a few hours lol

>> No.38976385

>>38976375
aren't you the guy who complained that jacuck talked about his life in here?

>> No.38976387

>>38976369
>昆布
i have to make a new filter everytime i come back because you keep giving yourself different names can you stop its for real annoying

>> No.38976392

>>38976370
>lol just look for "should of" on twitter and you'll see many natives say this
a bunch of retards who are probably speaking ebonics on twitter isn't the same thing as all of polite speech using it
>if なる means "is" in that sentence then what does から mean?
you dumbfuck esl, i said it doesn't mean is in that sentence but that one of its meanings is is

>> No.38976397

>>38976385
? no idea who that even is, this is an anonymous message board

>> No.38976410

can't help but notice the number of new cards i make always suddenly nosedives after the halfway point of an anime

>> No.38976412

>>38976387
The solution is to just filter ALL namefags and tripfags

>> No.38976417

>>38976242
hot

>> No.38976422

>>38976412
true true

>> No.38976429

>>38976410
yup, this guy needs morphman + movies2anki

>> No.38976431

>>38976412
dont know where that setting is

>> No.38976433

>>38976392
>all of polite speech using it
that's not the case
look up バイト敬語, it's considered incorrect 敬語 so it's not "all polite speech", it's the equivalent to your ebonics retards and if you were japanese you'd feel just as strongly about this case of misuse
>you dumbfuck esl, i said it doesn't mean is in that sentence but that one of its meanings is is
you said it doesn't mean です, someone already posted that example as meaning "is" along with 参考になる as well as a million other examples that mean "become" so there's nothing to go off of unless you post a new example
don't post any バイト敬語 stuff though cause im not talking about mistaken usages

>> No.38976434

>>38972229
cute

>> No.38976436

@moe

>> No.38976468

「sconce」を覚えた

>> No.38976479

y'all like cock?

>> No.38976481

>this whole thread
https://streamable.com/oyp1cj

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>>38976479
i prefer sheep

>> No.38976509

having ablast watching zero no tsukaima

>> No.38976517

>>38976499
ever notice how big watamelon's melons are

>> No.38976518

i've realized that i can read a novel instead of reading this thread. there are many cool english words to learn as an esl.

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[breakfront]を覚えた

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>>38976517
watamelons are juicy and delicious

>> No.38976613

some faggot gave me covid and I had to do a project with a qt asian girl this week. Now I cant meet her. im so mad, I always get unlucky. Time to do anki instead I guess

>> No.38976624

it's alright you weren't going to get with her anyway

>> No.38976630

>>38976433
>someone already posted that example as meaning "is"
no they posted it as an example of naru not meaning become
>参考になる
this one is arguable but it could mean is
>mistaken usages
yeah mistaken usages used by the japanese air force too lol you retard
https://youtu.be/kixk6SCpGyM?t=754

>> No.38976644

>>38976293
very interesting *copulates in your face*

>> No.38976651

>>38976613
are you the guy from the other thread? lol rip dude

>> No.38976652
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why is this not "i travelled to italy this year"? isnt shitai the past tense of shiru?

>> No.38976656

>>38976651
Yeah man

>> No.38976662

>>38976652
shita is shitai means want

>> No.38976664

this is your brain without a grammar guide

>> No.38976671

>>38976293
mind=blown

>> No.38976672

>>38976652
suru -> shitai

>> No.38976675

>>38976656
sucks dude don't push yourself for the next few weeks or you might get long covid

>> No.38976678

>>38976662
ok is shitai like an add on to shiru like shita is or is it just a coincidence and just happens to sound like it?, would it work with desu/deshita/deshitai?

>> No.38976679

>>38976675
>long covid
wtf is that? Does that mean no gym?

>> No.38976686

>>38976652
>>38976678
>isnt shitai the past tense of shiru?
the past tense of shiru is shitta
tai expresses desire and in this case it's suru --> shitai
you have to read tae kim https://streamable.com/mte30

>> No.38976693

>>38976630
it does mean "become" that's why から is there, or what do you think から means in that sentence?
there's actually whole section about になります on the バイト敬語 wikipedia page feel free to go read it and paste some sections you misunderstand lol
you think people who join the military are smart?

>> No.38976694

>>38976678
oh my god please pick up a grammar book

>>38976686
shita*

>> No.38976697

>>38976678
you have two options read a grammar guide or watch jp-subbed anime and figure it out from context

>> No.38976711

>>38976694
>shita*
the past of shiru is shitta not sure what you're trying to do here

>> No.38976716

>>38976679
>wtf is that
basically your have long term health problems
>no gym
not unless you want to risk it

>> No.38976719

>>38976711
my bad misread *dogeza*

>> No.38976738

>>38976693
becomes doesn't make any sense you retard it doesn't become it already is and it's made up of those islands that's what it means in that sentence made up.
>join the military are smart
the airforce yeah and it's pretty much everyone in the whole country uses it and those aren't the only cases where it means 'is'. what do you think 為になる means then

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japanese grammar is so fuckin easy you really just need to know what the particles do and the verb forms -u -te -ta -tai with their -masu equivalents and know about -teiru, then later on you can have a look at -zu and -nu
that's it everything else that's being touted as "grammar" is really just vocab
compare that to latin or ancient greek with their dozens of verb forms and cases an absolute nightmare

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzA4U1njO8

>> No.38976842

nemurarenai ogto

>> No.38976843

>>38976824
you think grammar is only morphology

>> No.38976864

>>38976824
そこにぶっちこめたい

>> No.38976866

>>38976843
no that's why i said you should know about particles :)

>> No.38976869

>>38976679
long covid sucks, yes it means no gym

>> No.38976880

>>38976824
as for me its choo choo sensei

>> No.38976886

>>38976824
i mean you can choose to push all grammar into the vocab label and then yeah grammar is easy but it's still easier to learn ancient greek or latin than japanese with it's 'easy' grammar

>> No.38976903

is japanese really easier than latin

>> No.38976908

latin had a hard life let it rest

>> No.38976909

>>38976886
>but it's still easier to learn ancient greek or latin
highly debatable
especially considering the lack of latin and ancient greek nukige

>> No.38976920

>no roman gf to speak latin with
bros...

>> No.38976926

>>38976909
they had nuki literature

>> No.38976933

big win because latin nukige would be 99% shota yayoi gay shit

>> No.38976936

nobody even knows or cares about latin
>>38976920
they speak chinchin now bro, chinchin is the Rosetta of our time

>> No.38976942

lol at all the "naru only means become"
>NHK放送文化研究所によれば、「〜になる」には「〜にあたる」「〜に相当する」の意味もあり

>> No.38976948

i'm currently trying to learn latin by feeling it out
it's pretty easy so far i think the difficulty is very overhyped but i can't give my final verdict until i'm actually good

>> No.38976955

>>38976942
you still on that? save that shit for when bunko unquits in a couple hours
it was a troll anyway nobody cares

>> No.38976970

>>38976948
latin + anki = pb + j

>> No.38976974

>>38976738
becomes doesnt make sense in english, but we're talking about japanese where it's possible to say these things and they make sense
i already explained how it means becomes
>>38974114
>>38974230
also ためになる is unambiguously "become"
ため here means 1 利益があること。役立つこと。
"to become a benefit/something useful (for whoever)"
the fact that even simple examples like this confuses you should make it clear that you dont yet actually understand what you're reading on a literal level enough to have any kind of position on this
you've probably only been learning japanese for a few months so nobody would expect your understanding to be great but you shouldnt deny everything cause it doesnt make sense to your english brain

>> No.38976978

life would be so much easier if I wanted to learn a meme language like latin

>> No.38976991

>when your chin chin is as long as her face

kaiju chin chin bros...

https://youtu.be/9620hFUnBec

>> No.38977001

coco ded russia ded whos next

>> No.38977002

>>38976970
i don't think vocab cards are that useful for languages where you know the writing system they are only good in japanese because kanji exist
the meaning alone you can easily acquire by just reading there's no need to rep that shit

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>> No.38977027

i remember our english teacher in school encouraging us to use a dictionary and thesaurus all the time when writing

>> No.38977031

>>38977001
calli

>> No.38977033

>>38976942
bunbros, strategic retreat! emergency meeting at the bunker, NOW!

>> No.38977044

>>38977033
false flag, i can tell cause this is too retarded a post and bunbros are cool as ice, nice try tho

>> No.38977049

more like bungbros lmao

>> No.38977050

>>38977015
true true

>> No.38977057

it appears bunkos superiority has again caused controversy, regardless, the verdict is simple, bunko won

>> No.38977066

>>38976978
how is latin a "meme" language?

>> No.38977070

>>38977057
its not fair, bunko always wins

>> No.38977073

>>38977057
won by being wrong? you can't win if you lose

>> No.38977079

>>38977015
>80% known words
surely this person knows how difficult it is to read without looking a single word up when you're missing every fifth word, right? You'll want to just kill yourself. Even ~90-95% has been rather challenging for me

>> No.38977083

>>38977066
nta but its a language only known or used by tryhard meme arts majors who are best of learning the best way to say "would you like fries with that?:

>> No.38977113

>>38977073
actually, he won by exploiting a logical trap in autist bros minds similar to the one jaturd used: autist bros will argue over snything that is wrong, no matter how inane, in perpetuity

he made one throwaway idiot joke comment referencing a conversation from the other day he wasn't even part of, as a result, the autist bros are broken EVEN AFTER HE LEFT, in fact, they will continue on this shit for hours

if you crash an ai with a paradox you win, so yeah, id say he won, and im completely serious

>> No.38977117

>>38977079
he says there that he uses
>graded readers
>bilingual texts
>children's literature
>translated text at hand

>> No.38977130

>>38977113
(and yes of course he was wrong, thats besides the point, the games purpose is wasting your time/pissing you off, as some autist bro pointed out its the same shit jaturd did)

>> No.38977132

>>38977113
i think you've forgotten that this is the japanese thread. we're supposed to talk about these things.

>> No.38977156

>>38977132
let me put it another way, someone makes a throwaway joke, and 4prince spends 5 hours seething about it and gives himself another ulcer, who won?

the argument itself was over hours ago btw

>> No.38977170

>>38977156
彼女は悲し

>> No.38977174

Is there a way to specifically make japanese text larger and not all text?

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>> No.38977197
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38977197

been reading some linguistic papers about になります and it basically backs up everything ive been saying what a surprise
and before anyone says anything about the initial ? researchers dont like to make outright statements but it's clearly his impression

>> No.38977207 [DELETED] 

don't care

>> No.38977208

>>38977197
are u gambs

>> No.38977211

>>38977197
what have you been saying?

>> No.38977219

>>38977197
nice
>>38977179
kek

>> No.38977224

>>38977211
that all meanings of なる are derived from the fundamental 状態変化 meaning

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>> No.38977234

>>38977224
has someone disputed that claim?

>> No.38977236

>>38976686
>you have to read tae kim

ok should i do the complete guide or the grammer guide?

>> No.38977241

>>38977208
no he can only read linguistic papers in english
>>38977234
yes many times in this thread

>> No.38977246

>>38977236
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/taekim.html

>> No.38977253

>>38977236
cure dolly orgasmic japanese
>>38977228
choo choo sensei girl...

>> No.38977266

>>38977197
uh oh bunko hater on suicide watch!

>> No.38977275

>if you find yourself trying to figure out how to say an English thought in Japanese, save yourself the trouble and stop because you won't get it right most of the time. You should always keep in mind that if you don't know how to say it already, then you don't know how to say it.
>even if you don't understand something completely the first time, just move on and keep referring back as you see more examples.
yooo tae kim is based

>> No.38977281

yep bunko won

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>>38977281
doesn't this part prove him right?

>> No.38977301

bros how does og so ero?

>> No.38977306

>>38977292
meant to reply to >>38977266

>> No.38977308

>>38977292
im not actually following the conversation sorry, i just know he won, see >>38977266

>> No.38977317

>>38977308
in other words you're just trolling

>> No.38977321

>>38977306
bunko won tho, see >>38977281

>> No.38977324

lmfao the loser hater is so upset over losing to bunko he cant even quote the right post

>> No.38977332

>>38977321
man, i'm interested in japanese not this hater/fan bullshit

>> No.38977334

bunbros we won, hater SEETHING

>> No.38977336

>>38977334
true true lmao

>> No.38977346

>>38977324
not the even the same person.

>> No.38977358

gonna need ciarans opinion

>> No.38977359

did my reps
last word
名人

>> No.38977377

difference between coco and russia is coc didn't deserve it and russia fucked with the twinks

>> No.38977409

if i'm understanding this correctly then my final impression is that both guys are correct (bunko and his hater)

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>>38977292
the point of the paper is about this being a novel usage (that many people consider/ed to be incorrect) and why it came to be used that way which was originally just a misunderstanding of a usage that did refer to 状態変化
there's no usage of なる in japanese that doesnt derive ultimately from 状態変化, but he's trying to say it's mental gymnastics to say that usages like that do

>> No.38977415

dropping women completely for babiniku they just cant be trusted

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>>38977377
love coco/kson shes so awesome and had a really good design
>>38977415
whats babiniku? カニ?
>>38977412
true, so tldr, bunko won

>> No.38977449

>>38977415
oh just looked it up, seems gay af, isn't the voice a problem?

>> No.38977481

funniest thing about og is she probably thinks people here are obsessed with her or something instead of just writing the most sexual things about her to get her to fuck off

>> No.38977500

the hater is a low iq autist who seethes at bunko because he's been learning for 10 years and is still n5 level, he's jealous of bunko who surpassed in much less time and attacks him to cope and convince himself that bunko isn't that good so he can feel better about his own failure with the language lol

>> No.38977505

im obsessed with og

>> No.38977522

>>38977412
>dude you see this common usage that even the nhk defends is actually a mistake stemming from the fact that japanese people just don't understand their own langauge

>there's no usage of なる in japanese that doesnt derive ultimately from 状態変化
do you have any proof for that cause i have plenty to the contrary

>> No.38977526

We're all gonna make it.

>> No.38977536

>>38977522
he just linked the proof you fucking moron lmao learn japanese retard

>> No.38977537

>>38977526
ive been saying this for the past 3 months and noone has believed me

>> No.38977545

>>38977317
that's pretty much every post that supports namefags

>> No.38977567

Nowadays I spent more time posting on /djt/ than actually studying japanese
What have you guys done to me, it's all your fault!

>> No.38977569

>>38977224
ok how is 為になる that then?

>> No.38977580

>>38977567
i only post on /djt/ after i finish my reps
its my reward

>> No.38977617

>>38977569
i already answered that >>38976974
it's not even ambiguous lol

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>>38977567
i stopped coming here for a while and my progress actually declined.

>> No.38977624

>>38977545
you're such a fucking loser

>> No.38977633

>>38977179
man i wish i was so good at japanese to write lyrics like this

>> No.38977636

been waiting for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3oWrNQo_Ng

>> No.38977637

i think when women talk bad ly of men they only refer to the ugly ones and project all the bad stuff ikemen did to them onto busaikus

>> No.38977639

>>38976974
>but we're talking about japanese where it's possible to say these things and they make sense
it's not related to language tho it's about the idea, what you're saying is that the idea of it becoming doesn't make sense. it's easy, if something was in a certain state before and then it changed and that's what you're talking about and not what it currently is, then that's become, but if you're talking about what it is then it's is, simple.

>> No.38977663

>>38977639
yeah and that's 100% true with how i explained in the posts i linked
the problem is that the japanese expand the change of state to include meta language level stuff and other things changing english people wouldn't say so it sounds weird to say become in those situations to them, but it's not weird in japanese

>> No.38977665

>>38976974
>"to become a benefit/something useful (for whoever)"
but that's nonsense cause nobody is talking about it coming they're talking about it being something, you just don't understand that even if you use words that in other contexts mean something else it doesn't mean that using the same word in this context is understood by natives to mean the same thing. go ask a native if they understand those islands actually going from something to something else when you're saying they're the constituents of the other thing, it's not like they're going to go yeah they changed from ??? to something else, they'll just tell you that's what they say for something being made of smaller things

>> No.38977669

so basically 「なる」は「だ・です・である」などの意味を持つことがある。omorioindesukedone.

>> No.38977673

>>38977500
yeah bunko has learned for like 4x more than jazzy and still knows less crazy

>> No.38977678

@bunko, qm, jamal and other djt ninjas
is sayonara limited to farewells? all the youtubers say this

>> No.38977681

>>38977536
where link it here don't do
>go read the wiki page to figure out i'm actually wrong
shit ok

>> No.38977682

sayonara og

>> No.38977691

>>38977673
not as crazy as you learning for 2x as long as him and knowing 10x less

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>> No.38977697

sayonara no fap

>> No.38977699

>>38977665
>but that's nonsense cause nobody is talking about it coming they're talking about it being something
they aren't they're saying in the future this thing will benefit you ie it will become a benefit, that's why the expression is what it is and not 為だ
your understanding of these things is clearly heavily shaped by your understanding of english
if you ask the linguistics guy he will explain to you that's a 状態変化 from the islands not having a name as a group to having one

>> No.38977703

Stop posting sluts here I am not breaking my nofap streak

>> No.38977704

a question for one meaning purists
when japanese people say お前, are they literally thinking "honorable presence in front of me"? what about 私 (private)?

>> No.38977705
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38977705

just finished sukasuka. not too difficult, cute characters, masculine mc. all in all not bad.

>> No.38977709

>>38977693
those thighs are just mind breaking and perfect diamond makers

>> No.38977712

>>38977704
hinto: pronunciation precedes orthography

>> No.38977719

>>38977663
if it's meta then it's not real and they still understand it as a being more than a changing

>> No.38977726

>>38977719
holy cope

>> No.38977728

reminder water on low never boils matter how consistent the heat is
if ur reading less than 3 hrs a day u will never make it

>> No.38977729

>>38977704
the point is that you can easily see why both of things mean why they do currently because of their fundamental meaning
お前 -> in front of me > you
私 > things that relate to me > me
the other guy is trying to say that the final meaning just sprung up unrelated to the original and doesn't mean that
they still mean that, the usage simply changed because of how they were used over time

>> No.38977732

>>38977678
watch them fuck it up, not qm cause he knows

>> No.38977733

>>38977728
this is the truth and wageslaves will never make it

>> No.38977736

>>38976886
> it's still easier to learn ancient greek or latin than japanese
lol you have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.38977738

>>38977728
reminder you don't know japanese so your opinion on making it is worthless

>> No.38977740

guys: learning Japanese is like swimming

>> No.38977742

>>38977691
that's just you projecting what i'm saying is actual fact

>> No.38977743

>>38977719
they dont, they just are able to recognize the types of changes that なる encompasses at a sentence level than you are able to because you perceive everything through an english lens

>> No.38977744

guys learning japanese is like having a gf

>> No.38977745

>>38977732
he knows jack shit

>> No.38977748

guys, learning japanese is like eating an apple

>> No.38977754
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>> No.38977758

learning japanese is like learning how to ride a bike one day you just get it

>> No.38977763

>>38977733
a dedicated wagie could read 6 hours per day perhaps but he’s too tired after slaving away

>> No.38977766

>>38977699
>if you ask the linguistics guy
go ask someone else lol so you basically don't have anything to show whereas i do
>>38977729
>sprung up unrelated to the original and doesn't mean that
i never said that but that can also be the case as in tire and tire which are both read the same but have different origins

>> No.38977767

>>38977740
>>38977758
I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know how to swim nor how to ride a bicycle. Is it over?

>> No.38977772

>>38977742
you dont even understand 為になる lmao
i should have said 20x less, then my post would have been a fact too

>> No.38977777

>>38977767
no, these are merely metaphors anon. just do your reps and read your vinnies - you'll be okay.

>> No.38977778

>>38977767
it's never too late just 自分を信じて

>> No.38977783

>>38977766
>so you basically don't have anything to show whereas i do
what do you have? you just keep posting obviously wrong examples like 為になる and saying it doesn't mean become lol
tire and tyre are completing different words lmao
you may as well say that なる means "birds cry"
we're not talking about homophones we're talking about single words

>> No.38977784

>>38977743
>claims without anything to support them
they actually understand it as meaning whatever is appropriate in the context and they don't view all of them as a type of change

>> No.38977792

elden ring is disappointing.

>> No.38977793

>>38977783
he's unironically low iq, pity him, the poor thing

>> No.38977809

>>38977784
i just posted a linguistic paper that agrees with me even on the most extreme example (になります when used as です)
you have nothing except your own intuition as someone who has been learning japanese for less than a year

>> No.38977810

>>38977792
I put 100 hours into it and loved it, Elden Ring is awesome and exactly what I wanted. ٩(◕‿◕。)۶

>> No.38977813

>>38977809
bunko hater hes been learning for 10 years, you can check the archives hes been here for years lmfao

>> No.38977817

>>38977783
>tire and tyre
lol of course it's a retarded britbonger. my point is that you can have words that have the same spelling but different senses if you don't know this then there's literally no point in talking to you
>we're not talking about homophones we're talking about single words
and you have to show that all its meanings are actually a single word and not words that had meanings that throughout time blended together and got put in the same word

>> No.38977834

>>38977678
seems like young people might use it at school or something but adults don't

>> No.38977838

>>38977817
you know the reason you haven't made it even after a decade is because you're low iq right?

>> No.38977846

always read nukige as without gay

>> No.38977853

>>38977817
you genuinely have 70 iq
they are all defined under 成る
the people who made the dictionaries know which words are which, if they were different words they would have different entries entirely like tire and tyre do

>> No.38977860

>>38977809
>i just posted a linguistic paper that agrees with me even on the most extreme example
where

>> No.38977863

>>38970775
>>The legend relates that on the day the characters were created, grain rained down from the sky and that night the people heard ghosts wailing and demons crying because the human beings could no longer be cheated
Interesting point to learn after reading the bicameral mind

>> No.38977865

when i see these petty squabbles i realize i have truly evolved beyond djt while you wallow in the mud i fly to the heavens

>> No.38977869

>>38977865
same same

>> No.38977874

>>38977860
read the thread

>> No.38977877

>>38977693
god i love women

>> No.38977886
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38977886

Reminder to be nice to your fellow anon, think 10 seconds before pressing submit on that mean comment, and lastly

dont be a meanie!

>> No.38977891

>>38977886
Good post! ٩(◕‿◕。)۶

>> No.38977892

886
stfu retard

>> No.38977893

>>38977810
i had low/mid expectations since i forgot about the game until a week before it was released. it ended up being a watered down souls game/souls game with big open fields between the dungeons.

>> No.38977897

>>38977853
>they are all defined under 成る
>な・る【成る/▽為る】
?
>the people who make the dictionaries know which words are which
they only know it if the information is out there what you think etymological information hasn't been lost?
>like tire and tyre do
you've missed the point of those completely you retard, i'll give you another since you're too stupid to understand what i meant from that one: bear the weight of something, and forest bear

>> No.38977899

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrWNDYNJTeg
such a based video holy shit djt btfo

>> No.38977907

>>38977874
basically a concession

>> No.38977916

>>38977897
lol have you ever taken an iq test?

>> No.38977917

>>38977893
For me it was exactly the same but open world. It does have the same problems as open world games which I don't like, I don't like that there's a lot of useless areas that you just ride past, and I don't like that they added crafting. Other than that the actual real areas of the game are the same as regular dark souls (which I like).

>> No.38977919

>>38977899
is that the guy who jamal said didn't know japanese only to be dunked on by natives when they reviewed his videos?

>> No.38977925

>>38977916
not that anon but i got a 142
just wanted to mention that just so everyone knows

>> No.38977927

>>38977916
yup i'm thinking this is pretty much where i accept your concession and go home

>> No.38977931

>>38977927
go home to cry?

>> No.38977933

>>38977919
yep

>> No.38977935

is sekiro any good? i saw some gameplay videos and it doesn't seem to have stamina which is good and it just seems like a faster paced game with a cooler setting than dragons and castles. the japanese seems a bit difficult cause it's like archaic sounding

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38977939

>>38977886
based, we're all bros here

>> No.38977941

>>38977899
lmao this guy looks so okasii

>> No.38977942

>>38977931
lmao

>> No.38977944

>>38977897
>>な・る【成る/▽為る】
>?
do you really think you did something here lol
it's an alternative character not a different word
i already said we're not talking about homophones
go look up bear and you'll see it has multiple dictionary entries... because they're different words
なる also has multiple different dictionary entries for stuff like 鳴る
japanese as a written language is very well recorded so the idea that there are some hidden words is ridiculous and you are basically saying you know better than the people who put their life's work into making etymology dictionaries

>> No.38977947

>>38977931
i'm not shedding any tears for you despite of making such a sad display of your iq

>> No.38977949

>>38977919
idk anything about if hes legit or not but every word in that video is so true

>> No.38977950

>>38977935
I haven't played it. I know a lot of people prefer the combat system to souls though.

>> No.38977951

>>38977935
i'm betting it's better than elden ring. i look forward to playing it.

>> No.38977958

>>38977947
you dont even know ため you moron go read genki

>> No.38977963

i read the first ten pages of genki then i dropped it
meanwhile ive been doing my reps for almost a year now and I can talk with my oshi now

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38977967

>>38977500
true, he is not well
>>38977505
same, shes the queen of djt
>>38977526
WORD
>>38977537
I BELIVE!
>>38977567
dame
>>38977580
same but after i goon to oempress
>>38977623
wb bro
>>38977637
true, food thing im an ikeman
>>38977691
DAME DESTROYED
>>38977693
holy yum
>>38977709
yea... no fap bros go on without me...
>>38977767
its never too late, get a bike today
well not a bike
get a pool
hmm fuck
well what can you do?
>>38977810
same i love it so much its amazing
>>38977813
dame
>>38977838
iq bro was right? maybe i don't believe in iq cause im high iq but maybe there ARE retards in this world... fuck blackpilling
>>38977863
based
>>38977877
same
>>38977886
YAY
>>38977899
good video
>>38977931
this was good
>>38977935
its amazing, made souls feel new again, but its very different, for one, there is a single weapon you use the whole game, for two, combat is about parrying/jumping, dodging/rolling is useless

its really really good tho and much harder than ER

>> No.38977970

>>38977944
>i already said we're not talking about homophones
i know you keep saying it without proving any proof.
>なる also has multiple different dictionary entries for stuff like 鳴る
it's a different entry for a different kanji it doesn't mean that meanings for words with the same kanji are all derived from the same place or that they mean the same thing, which they obviously don't unless you're willing to do olympic level mental gymnastics to say that 'become' instead of the more straight forward 'made up of'
>japanese as a written language is very well recorded
you're actually fucking retarded if you actually believe this lmfao, they didn't even have an alphabet before they took it from the chinese and even then they had to use a dictionary made by foreigners for their own dictionaries

>> No.38977979

>>38977967
based mass replyer, love u

>> No.38977980

>>38977944
>basically saying you know better than the people who put their life's work into making etymology dictionaries
also i'm not saying this you're saying the opposite without any proof and i'm saying that unless you provide some you can't say you're right

>> No.38977982
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38977982

almost crippled myself watching this swedish dub

>> No.38977984

>>38977963
>oshi
>御師

>> No.38977987

>>38977941
just watched the video and i have to take my post back because he actually makes 100% sense

>> No.38977990

>>38977963
based
>>38977950
combat is much less tedious while being much more precise, in sekiro you ARE A NINJA, if you play tight you just slay most things instantly, even bosses, essentially things have a parry/counter meter and if you drain it, you insta kill them, they also have regular health that works as in souls, so you can play it as souls, or if you can dodge/parry everything, you just breeze through, its harder than it sounds.

>> No.38977997

>>38977970
>they didn't even have an alphabet before they took it from the chinese
therefore >as a written language
everything has been recorded because this happened 1500 years ago and everything since then has been recorded
you are basically arguing that the people who made the dictionary are wrong and you are right that there is some hidden words in japanese inside なる that come from some completely different etymological root, which is clearly ridiculous considering how diligent japanese people are at documenting their own language and its history

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>>38977979
<3 every good post in the thread got a you (hope i didn't miss any!) keep up the good post WAGMI!!!

>> No.38978007

>>38977950
desu don't see why anyone would like the retarded stamina management wank that souls games do
>>38977967
>its amazing, made souls feel new again
what's with you retards calling every game that from does souls, like they're gonna make a new armored core and people are going to call it a souls game wtf
>single weapon
good
>dodging/rolling
good that shit was shit anyway

>> No.38978008

>>38977970
man, you chose a weird angle to defend

>> No.38978012

>>38977980
you are, you're claiming it's more likely that なる is multiple words even though no japanese linguist has ever made this contention and they recognize its fundamental meaning as 状態変化

>> No.38978013

>>38977987
no djter would say this

>> No.38978030

Sometimes I forgot I made a post and then come back to 5 replies and I get scared that I said something stupid

>> No.38978031

>>38977997
>which is clearly ridiculous considering how diligent japanese people are at documenting their own language and its history
except for all those words from like 400 years ago they had to consult the portuguese japanese dictionary for, right?
the thing is that's one thing but it doesn't even need to be that since you haven't shown any proof that japanese people actually think naru as in kara naru means become instead of is made up of

>> No.38978043

>>38977899
sounds like he's mad at himself for wasting his time doing something he doesn't actually care about
couldn't be me

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>> No.38978052

>>38977899
pointless video by this nosferatu looking ass guy

>> No.38978057

>>38978012
>and they recognize its fundamental meaning as 状態変化
they didn't say this
> likely that なる is multiple words even though no japanese linguist has ever made this contention
i'm not i'm saying it's a possibility since i don't know that they didn't and you're not providing any proof

>> No.38978059

>>38978007
well you have a point but if we were clear, souls games are kings field like, dunno people understand what a souls game means, same director, same atmosphere, same metroidvania structure, etc.
im a ac fan too so i see your point but eh, miyazaki games might be a better nomer cause ds2 was junk

>> No.38978068

>>38978030
this never happens to me, all my posts and replies are good, love my bros, have a friendly you

>> No.38978071

>>38978031
>had to consult the portuguese japanese dictionary for, right
they used that for pronunciation research because they could compare the portuguese phonetic pronunciation to see how japanese used to pronounce certain words
this isn't relevant to identifying new words through their meaning like you are claiming
there's no point discussing this since you just keep bringing up non sequiters

>> No.38978074

>>38978044
holy babe

>> No.38978078

funny how 300+ iq arguments always go like this

>> No.38978091

sequitur not sequiter lol

>> No.38978093

lets talk about what anki deck is the best and why it's Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary

>> No.38978096

>>38978059
i don't like the term souls like and i think it's insane people actually use it lol like there are no unique elements to the souls games except when they're put together and then you're literally just making a souls game. like the weapons and the rolling is literally monster hunter, castle shit there's like millions of those, lmao hard is just retarded. so what is there left

>> No.38978104

im just watching platinum end just to see how bad it can get but dame its as if a r9kcel wrote a philosophy treaty and it somehow got made into an anime where barely anything is animated.

how can this have been made by deathnote dude?

>> No.38978108

what happened to the brazil, what happened to ear infection guy, what happened to stop at 3k cards guy, what happened to rezu bro

>> No.38978109

>>38978071
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippo_Jisho
>Many of these words had never been written in any known text before the Nippo Jisho was published
wow the guy who refuses to back up his claims is full of shit who would have thought

>> No.38978122

new thread
>>38978106
>>38978106
>>38978106

>> No.38978124

boomer just hates that souls games arent in his generation so now he has to cope by calling it shit

>> No.38978125

>>38978096
there are a ton of unique elements, a lot of which are taken for granted cause they became omnipresent, the whole structure was fairly unique when souls came out and really only kings field/shadow tower are similar to it

>> No.38978134

>>38978124
true true

>> No.38978144

鬱蒼

>> No.38978153

>>38978109
if you look at the japanese wikipedia page for it most of the examples are talking about pronunciation/historical usages of words
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E8%91%A1%E8%BE%9E%E6%9B%B8
it doesn't say anything like "never before published" and there's no citation for that

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38978165

>Matto
>Project UpRoot
>March 14
>Still nothing
What happened?
https://www.projectuproot.jp/offers/AwvcNMrq/checkout

>> No.38978179

>>38978165
>they still don't have 100 members

>> No.38978182

>>38978179
obsessed

>> No.38978185

>>38978182
keep seething matto

>> No.38978192

>>38978185
take your meds schizo

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38978201

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS?!
These people never gonna make it

>> No.38978207

>>38978165
hm yea good question i thought shit started on march 1st.

my guess is that classes have started on the down low

>> No.38978220

>>38978207
>my guess is that classes have started on the down low
I don't think so.
Someone on reddit would be already shitting or analcreon

>> No.38978222

when was the last time we had a good thread

>> No.38978231

>>38978222
once you get the 50 filters online the quality goes up

>> No.38978232

>>38978222
back when it was on /a/

>> No.38978235

>>38978222
back years ago when quizmaster myself and many other anons defeated sentencefags in a battle of wits
they have still not recovered

>> No.38978239

>>38978201
whats this? a screenshot for ants?

>> No.38978240

20 minutes of vinnie reading and i've already seen a bunch of words i learned recently plus the cards i repped recently.

>> No.38978241

At least they killed the black guy
RIP BILL
https://www.projectuproot.jp/about

>> No.38978247

>>38978222
when og was posting all the time and doing her magical girl thing

>> No.38978248

does anyone have a link to qms full clannad stream?

>> No.38978278
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38978278

>>38978222
Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1526

>> No.38978286

>>38978278
>chinese font

>> No.38978303

>>38978125
>the whole structure was fairly unique when souls came out and really only kings
can you give examples otherwise lol no

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38978308

>Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1526
The good old days

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>> No.38978346

>>38978222
>we
you weren't there

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>>38968050

Read the DJT guide to git gud https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.

>> No.38978541

please recommend me some genuinely interesting youtube channels for immersion

the only ones I really like so far are :
ジョーブログ
MARiA麻莉亜

>> No.38978610

>>38978541
korone ch
pekora ch

>> No.38978617

>>38978610
i kneel

>> No.38978639

>>38978541
reol official, mikeneko, pan piano, gardinelia, plus these >>38978610

>> No.38978650

when is mikeneko opening her fantia

>> No.38978673

>>38978650
next time she breaks down im guessing, today she was measuring her face, cant be far off

>> No.38978792

>>38978248
it doesnt exist but if it does quiz himself has it

>> No.38978870

>>38978792
it's been posted here before
someone uploaded it to mega

>> No.38978964

>>38978303
i don't argue idiot shit with nobodies online no offense, anyway sekiro is great, try kings field sometime if you want some of the same but sorta slower paced, great games, the shadow tower games are great too
>>38978007
yeah er has really good hitboxes and shows why dodging was impossible in sekiro, they have really good/ridiculous tracking to most enemy attacks cause as you can see if youve played elden ring, jumping and tight hitboxes makes it impossible to hit you if you know what you are doing, still rather enjoying it, the exploration/etc is all great

>> No.38978971

>>38978870
yea that was me but its only part of it not the full stream
https://mega.nz/file/zc1kHLza#4XfiITSZQSuEuzzWbjXR15Qut3PvOnW0DaOsqjLiwPc

>> No.38978975

>>38975975
You can get a dead end trucking job in your home country right now if you want. You don't need any skills, or even literacy. No need to fantasize about it online.

>> No.38978989

>>38978975
>trucking
>dead end job
eh at least in the first world trucking pays ridiculously good

>> No.38979045

>>38978964
>i don't argue idiot shit with nobodies online no offense
none taken but you should probably not bring it up from the start if you're not going to elaborate

>> No.38979052

>>38979045
lol you got owned

>> No.38979110

>>38979052
by the guy who can't back up what he says? yeah sure

>> No.38979112

>>38978971
holy shit queef sucks lmao

>> No.38979250

>>38978989
not really, you make a lot per year but you have to work like 70 hours a week. the actual hourly wage winds up being only a bit better than typical wagie shit.

>> No.38979403

>>38979250
you're free to listen to audiobooks all day though

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