/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>38944259
>inb4 guide spam and fighting

this is now a jetblack trucker blessed /djt/ thread.

>>38944579
those doujins better be real.

they are all 実話s bro

there are 2 threads still up get the fuck outta here

>>38945597
the john thread should've never been made

>>38944579
wooot!
>>38944259
yosh a neko thread thanks op!

>>38944743
w..whats she trying to do?

>>38946118
she's an older lady so her breasts are sagging, so she's trying to inflict the same upon younger girls by stretching their boobies.

>兜合わせ
uummm bros?

>>38946144
fair

>>38946144
makes sense

wow its like im reading djt

>>38946571
based

>>38946225
cute word

sigh when i see these kind of doujin i cant stop thinking about how much i love japan and japanese doujin artists

japanese has no word for twerk

>>38946813
comic lo? more like comic UOOOHHHH

>>38946839

>>38946832
i think no language but english has invented a word for this degenerate act

ドＭ

mined ハムナプトラ

>>38947587
>ハ
ル if ever i've seen one.

>>38930528
I am actually watching this right now with Japanese subs just cause I was looking for a good slice of life (kind of) show to study with. It's not only very funny, but it's really good for casual speech examples (slurs especially). Tou kun and Saya especially use that stuff a lot.

>>38945571
how long does it take you to watch 1 episode of anime like that

白濁

do people seriously mine katakana loan words?

no, maybe, i don't know

HOLOBROS...
https://files.catbox.moe/q62s3w.mp4

i wipe my ass with $34k

i dont do listening anymore i just listen to the jazzy interview again for motivation

John/Jazzybros
Jonh's dead...
>>38948054

who

どの辺ねずみが一般でか
How popular/common are rats (as pets) in Japan?

i want a pet penguin or maybe a doggo

I’m a student at university, studying Japanese as my major.

Every lesson we have a test, where you basically translate 10 sentences.

Important note! Our tests are graded based on -10 to 10 system. Where -10 is lowest (obviously).

I prepare for every test prior to 2-3 days, I also have a private tutor. She said that I don’t have any major issues with material and show visible progress.

Well, my results show completely opposite point of view:

-2, 4, 3.

More confident I’m in what I write = more worse results I get.

Every time I have to answer during university classes, I feel how my face and body turns hot as if I’m sick, when I know I’m not.

I love studying Japanese and I have motivation to study it, but I don’t know what I’m doing wrong if outside university I feel confident and don’t do any major mistakes.

I’m broken and lost. What should I do next? Is there is a way to escape it?

as for me its chicken
https://youtu.be/-VnpPfLsYls

>>38948675
Give us examples

>>38948675
>I’m broken and lost. What should I do next? Is there is a way to escape it?

>>38948705
PEKORA?

>>38948705
holy babe

memento bros!

>>38948689
cute

how many anki card retries are considered "normal" before you memorize a word? I feel like I can't memorize anything without at least 10 "again" (with some exceptions)

never "memorized" a word
never will

do it every day and you're going to remember some of them. eventually you'll remember most
>>38948845

according to obasanは
大すきすぎてやばい

>>38948907
based
>>38948845
what does "normal" even mean? some words take a lot of tries, some not so many, it depends on many many things, maybe how many times youve seen them? maybe how good your mental concept of them is? nobody knows, but eventually, they stay

今日の曲
https://youtu.be/eDbJ1TMg2Tw

>>38948277
could've supported the nukige market with all of that instead ... many such cases!

https://youtu.be/jGm046zbruU
スウェーデン語でも勉強すっか

>>38949068
nukige authors don't read my superchats in a sultry voice tho, fuck em

>>38949123
https://youtu.be/KUxgsUQOyLg

>>38949123
https://files.catbox.moe/rshm2f.webm

>>38949147
i understand the lyrics

>>38948675
impossible to say without seeing what you wrote

>>38949158
based, whats it say?
>>38949043
https://youtu.be/O4oixjzvrZk

>>38948845
word like
白い - 1
word like
酢漿草 - I'm on 10 with no end in sight

didn't fell since i was 22

>>38949217
suyusou
suchousou
suchuusou

lets see if any of these were right...

don't know what that means but good for you, or sorry that happened

>>38949217
read that as ホオズキグサ

I NEED GOOD NTRGE AAAAA

wanna go with og to japan and eat delicious tsuchinoko together and go ahhhh umakattaaa

og poster is way worse than bunko

obasan said her chikubi got hard as soon as she heard my voice

but are you gonna tsumamu her budous?

>>38949239
>>38949245
nope, mined from サマポケ

>>38949293
she wants me to lick

bet ogs chikubi is umai

tablet vinnie uis are extremely cringe

>>38949295
thats in katakana

it would be so fun to have a kyonyuu japanese kanojo who has kanbotsuchikubis and you always tease them to come out by nazoruing around her nyuurins

>>38949325
why do you type like a retard

>>38949324
i mine everything in kanji form

https://streamable.com/aweflo
SOVL

>>38949325
obasan is japanese f and said it was hard to get a picture of the hard chikubi because they are so big

bet og's kuri chan is umai

>>38949329
so much cringe in this sure

>>38949330
why? you will never see that written without furigana even if they bother to use the kanji, which is unlikely in itself

>>38949333
neat

>>38949345
so you feel like adding to it by typing like that? okay at least i understand why

日本語わかるやつは英文に日本語が入っててもすんなり読めるからcringeとか思わない

>>38949379
what you are saying is basically like saying it's impossible to be cringe in english because anything you could possibly write is readable to a native speaker
the bar for cringe is not readability

>>38949350
it could

>>38949306
it's phone not tablet

Been doing Anki on my desktop but I'm going on vacation for a week soon. Can I bring my "save data" onto a laptop by just dragging all of the files into a flash drive and then onto the other device, or how would I do that? Also since VNs are such a popular way to immerse, can anyone recommend Tsukihime? I've been messing around with a friend in Melty recently so I've considered giving it a try.

>>38949400
that's not what he said

>>38949400
めんどくせえやっちゃな
そういう事書いてねえし思っていない

>>38949400
this guy is right

>>38949407
wrong

>>38949407
he said people who understand japanese won't think it's cringe because they read it without having to think about it
that's irrelevant when the reason its cringe is unrelated to how easily you can read it

>>38949404
ankiweb

can i install debian (gui less) on a pc without a connecting a monitor to it and only through ssh?

>>38949442
sir this is the japanese thread

>>38949442
if its possible to install through just terminal commands yes

>is it possible to install only through terminal commands
>yes, if its possible to install through just terminal commands
bunko displaying his high iq again

>>38949442
not really unless you know all the commands up until ssh is available

>>38949479
he asked ssh

>>38949434
awesome, thanks

>>38949484
>>38949464
ok will look into it thanks

Seeing a lot of 初心者s (beginners) in this thread! Don't worry, here's something to help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSvH9vH60Ig

disliked

rest in peace granny

>>38949602
RIP CHOO CHOO SENSEI

https://twitter.com/yuyuhwa_tw/status/1494370229648261121 dame korean bitches are wild

the only "proof" of her death is a patreon post continuing the metaphor of her being a robot. she could very well be in Nippon sitting on the beach drinking sake for all we know.

>>38949764
she deserves it

>>38949764
shes more likely in the basement of yakuza group used as an onaho

>>38949325
this but og

>>38949333
kikoeta!

>>38949350
ill always be able to read the kana but not the kanji, mining kana is a waste of time

>>38949442
ask that shit in g or google it dipshit

>>38949602
good post
f for best sensei
>>38949729
we have to live on, shed want us to be strong...

>>38949333
nice

>>38949333
333
cute

>>38948277
>HOLOBROS
>doesn't post a holo

dame

fuckin love 陥没乳首

same but og

Gyarus are the besties.

>itt

>>38950102
take your you bastard

nyc obasan says obasan is busu

New Yuko Sensei video dropped
https://youtu.be/Kw6IXDDrp8s

>>38950091
監獄　かんごく

Holy shit
https://youtu.be/--FmExEAsM8

holobros. would buy this?

>>38950149
only if it comes with puccho integration

>>38950134
nice
>>38950091
love gyaru
>>38950129
don't know what that means but good for you, or sorry that happened
>>38950146
dame theyre such babes
>>38950149
holobros have sex with real girls, theyre chads see, i don't even know what that is, where do you put your chin chin?

>>38950163
shes really 女っぽい when i talk about obasan

>>38950149
bro holos look like this https://youtu.be/9VmRYW3YuAE

>>38950191
why is her name Mike? that's a man's name

>>38950191
cute

>>38950203
she's mike's neko

>>38950191
yep mike won

women need good men but men are too addicted to videogames and porn to be good

been making good progress in latin

>>38950230
define good

og loves me as i am

>>38950237
big dick and balls

>>38950237
attentive, passionate, caring, skillful at real sex

how does なります mean become here?
https://youtu.be/kixk6SCpGyM?t=754

bros, when i have sex with og do i need to put the balls in, plz answer quickly

はい

>>38950285
please dont have sex with og shes mine wtf
>>38950242
>>38950258
based im all that

og has so much love to give

>>38950275
https://youtu.be/9ey_q1QziMU

>>38950304

to me

>>38950230
so its easy if you are real

>>38950275
ヒント：そンな意味してない

acquired 浮気

>>38950345
wtf og wouldn't unacquire it right the fuck now

acquired 前立腺

>>38950230
love when og watches porn games with me

prostate parts in doujins should be banned

>>38950129
yup another high quality bunko post for all his ass lickers to praise

>>38950146
i'm sure the only reason they don't show hardcore porn in kpop mvs is cause hc porn is banned in kpoprea

>>38950374
good post and correct

just made a basic cpu in rust
ya'll know where i can cop some estrogen

>>38950374
how do you feel about when the girl licks the guy's asshole

i hope you all played elden ring in its original language

>>38950406
>>38950146
dame best korea makes the hottest vids

わぼく

>>38950429
elden ring was written in english and translated to japanese though

>>38950429
>>38950448
this but i play all other from games in japanese cause i know japanese well

>>38950448
no it wasn't, frognation handles the translations to english and the voice acting but they don't write the story lmfao

read the pic

>>38950429
this image is propaganda
the real quotes
>There's not a big augmenting handbook that will give us a bunch of context that he takes the time to write – he's really too busy for that. So we do the text, the scripture that we run off first, and then we have to consult him to find out what the context is so that we don't make errors. Errors are inevitable, if you don't have context, and text alone is not enough to translate correctly."
>"The text was very dense and very unusual," Morris remembers of his first impressions working on Demon's Souls. "It uses a lot of very unusual kanji, which sort of reminds me of the density of some English fantasy translated into Japanese. Translators who were very good, who were able to capture the meaning, but also to adjust it to Japanese so that it has this kind of authentic, archaic feel. It wasn't just a bunch of transliteration of English terms, it was a good localization."

>>38950423
it reminds me of og and i

yep bunko won

>>38950423
makes me cum loud

>>38950488
this but unironically

>>38950468
and yet they still make multiple n5 mistakes lmfao

>>38950429
playing fromsoft games using jap subs is like playing metal gear in jap dub (awful)
sekiro is an exception

>>38950488
post vocaroo

>>38950506
i don't get this image, explain

>>38950332
so you don't know, ok got it

>>38950516
play saya no uta

>>38950512
https://files.catbox.moe/mqb1kp.webm

any good cbt vinnies

>>38950506
like?

>>38950506
if they made that many mistakes you wouldnt need to misuse quotes to make your point lol

yep from software won

>>38950520
>jamal says
lol no thanks

remember watching this one guy play some dark souls game and he couldnt read 煤

>>38950522
these fake panting sounds are so retarded

>>38950561
sooty one...
aah, hahahahaha

>>38950556
fromsoft don't know japanese

I bet sex feels so good I hope I can do it one day

theres a reason elden ring doesnt even have voice acting in japanese
they dont care about the japanese script at all

>>38950532
like the one i just posted. do you want more examples?

>>38950590
it does
>>38950559
yeah imagine posting jaturds shit unironically lol

>>38950561
>all this soot everywhere is giving me conniptions

>>38950417
obasan would if i asked

>>38950593
it's kind of crazy how good the voice acting is in the english games desu the writing too

>>38950517

83
tired stale "meme"

>>38950596
which one?

>>38950610
true true
>>38950609
shed ban the prostate parts?

>>38950629
meant for >>38950423

the anon who said that bunko keeps trying to brag about sexual things to do with his obasan is an idiot as can be seen by this post >>38950609

>>38950623
wow none of you dumb fucks that replied to me read the image huh >>38950429

>>38950635
it still doesn't make sense but uhm cool

>>38950652
you are too mentally ill and unpleasant i just skip whatever you post sorry

same same from soft won simple as

>>38950635
she would do how do you feel about when the girl licks the guy's asshole? not sure what you mean bunko

>>38950674
made more sense when she was banning prostate doujins ngl

>>38950590
sex is a psyop if it existed you woulda done it by now

>>38950734
You're probably right, thanks anon

>>38950662
same
>>38950673
true
>>38950749
>>38950734
this makes sense

time to do anki

femcel juice

>>38950778
god i wish that were me

>>38950561
read it correctly
yoshi

i hate women

>>38950778
literally me
>>38950791
yum

can fromdrones explain this?

i cant read any of that

cant imagine hating women they are so great and tasty and nice and smell and feel so good, why do you hate them anon?
mmm wanna immerse in women but japanese comes first

Is my sentence good?
私は好きバックバンブル

>>38950830
obasan said id be surprised to see how wet she gets

>>38950838
the catholic church doesnt exist in the souls universe

>>38950838
do you mean bishop? it just sounds cooler

no need to, from won, simple as, gg no re

from lost

https://lokeysouls.com/2022/01/04/localization/

>>38950865
plz respond

>>38950868
>>38950871
why did they translate havel's priests as "bishop havel" and then drop the rest of that sentence?

>>38950868
>>38950871
no even if you accept bishop it's mistranslated
the 奇跡 is 伝えられる'd by a bishop of habel the rock
habel is not the bishop

>>38950867
is that good or bad?
>>38950901
ok cute

>>38950914
So it's fine?

>>38950901
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom

>>38948845
How long is a piece of string?

>>38950922
sure
>>38950936
which piece?
>>38950904
from won, sorry

>>38950904
it's not "havel the rock", it's more like saying havels priests "who were tough as boulders"

>>38950914
yeah its pretty good

>>38950889
actually clicked the link, that guy is too autistic/retarded/verbose/annoying, from won

>>38949404
Make an akiweb account and you can sync up your deck on any device.
> since VNs are such a popular
They are popular amongst chronic masturbating weirdos but if you only use VN's your listening comprehension won't improve at all. Reading text in a VN while listening to the voice acting is no better than watching TV with subtitles on - it's reading, it's not listening at all.

>>38950191
https://youtu.be/uS2JhJizn7E

bet og gets drown you wet nggghhh

>>38950958
no... there's also lines like 「岩のような」ハベルの戦士の鎧

>>38950997
true, frombros keep winning

>>38951003
it's mistranslated either way so hardly a win for frombros

>>38950507
出来ない

>>38950191
>Rushia/Mikeneko
OHNONONO
NICE MAKE-UP BTW

>>38950997
so he's a warrior priest?

>>38951008
women are so disgusting, bros

>>38950593
Japanese developers know that story in video games is stupid and pointless and a waste of the medium.

>>38950610
>i've never read a book in my life
Yeah we know, mate.

funny when you get used to 助数詞 numbers without them look naked

>>38951028
it's normal to just reply with the number if someone asks your age

>>38951008
women are so beautiful bros
>>38951009
hes a rock
>>38951028
true

>>38950902
Video game localizers change things on purpose. In some cases they literally make things up.

>no (you)s
wtf guys, I thought we had something special

>>38951046
lmao

>>38951035
i mean when reading, 助数詞 used to annoy me but now i see they add a lot to the text and i get... it feels like somethings missing when they aren't there

>>38951052

>>38951046
baaaaaaaaaased

>>38951052
sorry bro didn't know it was you, here

>>38951046
the game probably turned out way better since japanese are notoriously bad at writing

>>38951064

>>38951046
i only care when they cut lewd stuff ngl, plus i know japanese, this makes more sense to post in v, everyone here plays in japanese

>>38951068
azassu

>>38951087
>everyone here plays in japanese
lmao

>>38951046
i'm cool with this now because i play everything in nip anyways
eops get what they deserve

>>38950191
>cute
Why asian do this shit?
Filters everywhere
I thought only man was insecure
WTF

>>38951089
頂きます！！

>>38951101
wow her eyes are really cool
>>38951097
self own of the year
>>38951099
true true

why is this guy trying so hard

>>38951046
the more japanese i know the more i think this is a good thing
both languages just cannot mix

>>38950901
didnt even know snails had teeth

>>38951131
>>38951076
>you vs the guy she told you not to worry about

>>38951128
he has bipolar
its mania

sleepy but can't get back to sleep gonna go talk a walk then eat some gyoza then read some and maybe i will fall asleep after that

>>38951128
hes legit mentally ill

>>38951128
autism

as for me (私は) i just had bowl of 白米 and i'm now going to play titan quest while listening to linnie audiobooks

>>38951154
wish i had gyoza, enjoy

gonna need ciarans opinion

time to post this again

time for morning anki

>>38951185
except gambs has an iq of like 150 and (rightfully) says all translations are shit

>>38951196
no he's in the middle

>>38951185
good chart, cant bring myself to care about translations, funny thing is i used to care about treehouse butchering fire emblem but eh

>>38951196

>>38951185
nah even the guy on the right would think translations are inferior and prefer to read the native material. he just takes it for granted now that he's good

>>38951196
>gambs
>all translations are shit
DE-BUN-KED
https://youtu.be/TTxAlkD-xDI
The EN version is 100x better

>>38951244
>using brave browser

>>38951250
how did he ever get elected?

>>38951244
based

>>38944259
This is truly the gr3atest l4o5. I wish that I could post her un[til thr end of time.
thank you, djt

>>38951264

>>38951247
thinking translations are inferior to the original isnt mutually exclusive to thinking something is a decent translation. the point is that it's impossible to translate between 2 languages as different as japanese and english without requiring a lot of creative writing

>>38951307
>requiring a lot of creative writing
this

>>38951307
good post and correct

>>38951244

>>38951339
>>38951244
lol

>>38951339
Mental Breakdown coming soon...

>>38951366

>>38951376
yep
>Mental Breakdown coming soon...

>>38951339
>>38951244
>>38951376
seems like a bundle of sticks

>>38950865
no idk what you're saying plus the grammar has n7 mistakes

why do anime characters get to say daze but if i do it i get laughed at its not fair bros

>>38951404
ぶ・ん・みゃ・く

>>38951196
im pretty sure gambs says machine tl is good enough in a lot of cases he's the definition of the hooded man

>>38951385

he comes here and read things.

ogのまんこは見た目にとても美しかった

https://twitter.com/babareoyomeko/status/1502182544611352580
dame got me teary eyed bros

>>38951404
yare yare daze

>>38948845
I feeli like if you use radicals and mneonics for kanji and vocab you would never take 10 fails to get it in your head.

>>38951196
does he know japanese tho.

>>38951440
駄目

>>38951008
10/10 in moonland

>>38950429
>hard kanji
no such thing

my kanji get hard whenever og is around

>>38951523
who are you quoting?

>>38951307
if you're smart you won't praise mediocrity, you want a good translation not just a decent one.

>>38951545
the anon in the image

>>38951553
if i wanted any translation at all i wouldn't be doing this to myself so pass

>>38951523
硬

>>38951553
being a good translator is the same thing as being a good writer, and there aren't enough good writers to translate everything so all we can realistically accept is decent

>>38951575
yep this anon won

>>38951584
>N5 mistakes all over the place
>Changing things on purpose

This has nothing to do with writing ability

>>38951614
if you think translators shouldnt change things then you are simply an idiot

anki on coffee: 100 cards daily easy
anki off of coffee: spend all day doing 50 cards in chunks while dealing with headaches

>>38951626
rattata tried to warn you

>>38951625
Why would you change yes to no? I've seen this done before.
Why call rice balls jelly donuts?

>>38951625
retarded strawman

*sips cold brew*
yoshhhhh

蛇足:
よけいなもの。無用なもの。
他人がしたことに自分が付け加えることをへりくだっていう言葉。「―ながら申し上げます」
【故事】楚（そ）の国で、主人から酒をもらった召使たちが、蛇の絵を一番早く描いた者が飲むという賭（か）けをしたが、すばやく描き上げた男が調子に乗って蛇に足を描き添えたため、その間に絵を描き上げた男に酒を飲まれてしまったという話による。〈戦国策〉

>>38951649
>Why would you change yes to no?
dumb question, in japanese negative questions are answered positively, in english you answer negatively so "yes" can easily become "no"
>Why call rice balls jelly donuts?
because it's an unimportant element and potentially jarring for a western viewer, which creates a separate experience for them than a japanese person watching the original who did not feel anything in particular about a throwaway line

>>38951677
neat word mined

>>38951677
>故事】楚（そ）の国で、主人から酒をもらった召使たちが、蛇の絵を一番早く描いた者が飲むという賭（か）けをしたが、すばやく描き上げた男が調子に乗って蛇に足を描き添えたため、その間に絵を描き上げた男に酒を飲まれてしまったという話による。〈戦国策〉
lol

>>38951693
It wasn't a negative question

>>38951677
ACQUIRED

>>38951626
>>38951642
didn't take amphetamines today and my reps were tiring af. I usually enjoy doing them while buzzing

>>38951752
unless you can post the clip of it then there's no point discussing why then

>>38951693
>rice is a jarring concept
>in a show where a rodent can shoot lightning from its ass

yep need ogs take on this

>>38951764
thats element is the same for japanese viewers though, that's the point

>>38950532
i think in one of the souls games they translated シ as ツ for one of the weapon names

remember getting obsessed about rice balls from pokemon as a 5 year old and then absolutely hating it when we finally had some for dinner

>>38951762
Episode 1 of the flying witch dub. The little girl asks if the woman moving in with them is a freeloader. The man responds with no in English

>>38951046
>>38951129
true, it adds more soul if they do this, but a different kind of soul
its nice being able to enjoy both

>>38951772
there's nothing strange about eating rice

making jelly donuts in a forest is extremely bizarre though

>>38951810
true
>>38951786
bet you didn't add the plum

>>38951376
>18yo
>loli magnet
what did he mean by this

>>38951803
you just made that up
https://streamable.com/55mhko
they changed
>親戚が居候？
>そう
which means the same as what they said, your own translation of "freeloader" is much harsher than the japanese so they didn't say that and it's closer to the feeling of the original

>>38951421
You're wrong. He hates mtl

>>38951810
nothing strange to you in 2022 as someone who is into japanese culture
for white american kids in the 90s they would have thought "what the fuck is a riceball" and it would have been a mental interruption in their viewing experience that doesnt map onto the original

>>38951844
Lol so you're claiming changing a yes to a no is okay because they changed what the original question was asking? God you're pathetic

>>38951876
It's a ball of rice.... You could also just call it rice. Rice isn't a foreign concept in America

>>38951892
are you dumb? they didn't even change a yes to a no
he literally says
>your relative is staying at your place?
>yep
they didn't even change it, but yes, it would have been completely fine if they did that if it preserved the feeling and meaning of the original better than the alternative

>>38951844
you can hear that implication from the tone of voice though

go to /a/ if you wanna discuss this stupid shit that barely relates to japanese

>>38951905
>>38951844
>>38951907
ah sorry i just watched the clip, you posted the wrong clip. it happens earlier in the show

bros i love japanese women so much why are they so amazing?

>>38951953
ayy lmao

>>38951953

>>38951939
i watched the part you're talking about, it's pretty obvious why they changed it
the original lines are
>いそーろう
>そ　今日からこの家に住むことになった木幡真琴
https://streamable.com/qxp3qu

the problem here is the whole point of her saying
>いそーろう
is it is right after a cut with this as the first line, and in japanese the young girl is repeating the word back because it's a new word for her
now in english they couldnt have her say "free... loader?" because it's not a word a child would be that unlikely to know unlike 居候 is shown to be in the original
so the translators basically had to make up something that fit here, but they couldnt really call her a freeloader directly because that's much more meanspirited than 居候 is in japanese so they had to make do with this, which is what is known as a "decent translation"
>>38951185

>>38951855
https://twitter.com/gambsVNs/status/1476802301289500672
>hello mr gambs what is your opinion on mtl(machine translation) — It is as good or better than human translators in the VN community 99% of the time. The other 1% can’t be translated accurately at all by anyone or anything.

>>38951953
cute

Can you understand them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruHfj1--ox0

>>38952130
i understand that this bitch fucks her brother

>>38952136
lol

>>38952009
>now in english they couldnt have her say "free... loader?" because it's not a word a child would be that unlikely to know unlike 居候
what the fuck

>>38952162
first time in my life ive heard freeloader was in anime eng sub so yeah

for some reason japanese uses the word quite often

>>38952009
>which is what is known as a "decent translation"
lmfao NO it is not.
the original did not have the child asking about something that isn't true.
since the dub completely drops the implied idea of a word like "freeloader" being unknown to the girl, you might as well just change the question.

"Is she gonna live with us?"
"That's right. Let me introduce you to Makoto, she is going to be staying with us."

>>38952180
that's my point a little child is very much unlikely to know freeloader so that post doesn't make any sense

>>38952184
you would be complaining about that too lets be honest

true true

>>38952194
it's at least better. "free... loader?" sounds stupid as fuck and the answer would still be "no" because of the implied harshness.

>>38952193
you are both esls

>>38952208
i'm a native speaker and freeloader is not a word a little child would know what is wrong with your brain lol

>>38952207
>"free... loader?" sounds stupid as fuck
did you even read my post? i said that's not an option, and the point is that shes repeating what was said in the unseen conversation to act as exposition, so nobody would have said "freeloader" for her to repeat it
they obviously included the freeloader thing as a question from her so as to preserve an element from the original when a change was 100% necessary

>>38952235
>i said that's not an option
it is
>when a change was 100% necessary
it wasnt

>>38952237
it's not an option because the implication of her saying "free...loader?" is that she's repeating what was said in the conversation she just heard
why would someone in english describe their relative visiting as a freeloader?
the implied conversation would like "oh yeah she's here as a freeloader" which makes no sense

>>38952214
looking forward to the new version

>>38952257
>why would someone in english describe their relative visiting as a freeloader?
well why would someone in japanese do it lmao

>>38952273
because it's a completely different language and 居候 does not have the same pattern of usage or connotation as freeloader in english?

>>38952284
so use a different word
"she's lodging at our place"
"lodging?????"
done
retard

making is is realizing the translation is pretty good and not nitpicking every other sentence

https://youtu.be/1vF84beHDHo
this had a good translation

>>38952293
you are calling me a retard when you say shit like this >>38952273 lol
it's like someone getting mad about a japanese dub of english media where they didn't translate "bless you" after a guy sneezed or something
languages and cultures are different, that's the difficulty of translation

>>38952305
truly making it is realizing every translation is shit and that the unconscious biases of the translator as well as the dependency on his writing skills make faithful translation literally impossible
the only time translation is appropriate is in the context of diplomacy and business relations
works of entertainment/art should not even be attempted to be translated. the result is always going to be a perversion of the original no matter how ""good"" the translator is

>>38952345
you are putting the original work on a pedestal
translation is a separate piece of art, it can be better or worse, but it's not even trying to be the same thing

matt made it and says translations improve japanese stories by removing the cringe

matts right

>>38952345
true, good post
>>38952351
cringe, it can NOT be better
>>38952352
hows his course going?

>>38952351
>you are putting the original work on a pedestal
i'm aware

>>38952365
undeservedly so
just because something is written in language X doesn't make it good, not all japanese artworks are good

>>38952374
>just because something is written in language X doesn't make it good, not all japanese artworks are good
strawman harder lol
where the fuck did i say that
what i'm putting on a pedestal is not the quality of the original work but the linguistig composition of the work itself which cannot be preserved during the process of translation

>>38952361
>cringe, it can NOT be better
>>38952374
>just because something is written in language X doesn't make it good
both wrong

>>38952284
>居候
>他人の家に無償で同居し食べさせてもらうこと。また、その人。食客。
basically just means houseguest

>>38952374
Doesn't matter at all. I wanna read the original work, not some translators fan fiction. If that translator can't do a faithful translation then he doesn't deserve his job.

>>38952396
if you want to read the original work then your only choice is to read the original work
it's literally impossible for a translation to recreate the feeling of reading the original work, especially in languages as different as japanese and english
all you can hope for is they made an enjoyable piece of art that draws on the original for inspiration to a certain degree
it's like watching the lion king and complaining it's not exactly like hamlet

>>38952374
sure, but if a work is being translated in the first place, it has crossed a certain quality threshold, and when people get upset at translations is when the translations remove qualities from the original, whatever those might be

>>38952390
if a rabdom nobody translator was capable of making better works, theyd make their own works, and not just rework someone elses

>>38952421
>if a rabdom nobody translator was capable of making better works, theyd make their own works, and not just rework someone elses
this is the reason why most translation can at most be "decent", because it requires you to be at that level of ability if you want to do it well, so not many people bother

>>38952418
>it's literally impossible for a translation to recreate the feeling of reading the original work
rumao

>>38952345
if a translation is decently faithful and satisfies the foreign audience it's successful
the people who care too much about literal translations or whatever should just learn japanese

>>38952436
if you think this isnt true you have no idea about languages

>>38952418
your posts are almost good but then you go full retard, nfc why, anon is more saying he wants to watch lion king but some inbred say, removes scar dying cause he decided it was too impactful for children to watch, oh and the hyenas are now clown colored to show corporate solidarity with whatever month it is

>>38952446
You don't know English if don't understand the meaning of "literally impossible".

never watched the lion king
never will

>>38952317
i called you a retard but these posters aren't me:
>>38952237
>>38952257
>>38952273

where is the jpdb io guy getting his VN scripts? the site doesn't let you export its vocab lists which makes sense cuz he wants to make money but i cba using their srs im using anki

certain contexts work better in certain languages

school setting with jks works better in japanese
metal gear solid or medieval setting works better in english

doesnt matter if the translators are a bit worse of a writer than the original creators

>>38952462
why did you respond to a post that was adressed to me lol

>>38952459
i do, it is literally impossible
you can not recreate the feeling of reading another language in a different language, because if the feeling was the same they would be the same language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLxk5EdrRRo&t=176
かわいい

>>38952469
>jpdb
don't use that trash

>>38952469
the vn script cartel

>>38952483
https://streamable.com/q20m5h

>>38952452
nobody itt has ever mentioned anything like that up till now, we've been talking about linguistic differences

>>38952469
big vn

>>38952473
>medieval setting works better in english
terrible post

based chugger

>>38952489
why does these vtubers with all the fucking money have the worst fucking facial tracking? they look like puppets, their mouth is just a smile that flaps open and closed like a 2005 flash animation

why can't they do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944BE6_Brks