/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Disregard bad advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・any геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, coin miner, confusing for beginners.
・tatsumoto. It recommends targeted sentence cards, which are proven to be less effective than words cards(animecards).
・Ankidrone Starter Pack. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Core 2.3k instead.
・Tatsumoto. Tatsumoto is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does.
・Matrix/Telegram. Matrix is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Signal.
・Refold, Migaku and other for-profit companies who want to scam you.
・Namefags, don't waste your time with Attention Whores
・Download 4chan X to filter Namefags

TheMoeWay is the best resource.
be sure to read John's religion/story.

based john poster

Let's have a very productive day!

Do the opposite of what /djt/ shills.

>>38876123
my future japanese wife one day
>>38875725
based john poster now with oppai

>>38876226
do ol's really? douki bros...

my blissfully playing jrpgs in japanese

my blissfully playing rpgs in japanese

>>38876267
your blissfully playing jrpgs in japanese what?

is it just me, or does japanese sound a lot more poetic than english by default?

>>38877048
it is just you

「「「「「「～～～～っっっっっっっ！？」」」」」」

>>38877048
its not just you, when women talk im usually like meh, but when japanese women talk im like doki doki

>>38877048
it doesn't sound poetic at all, japanese is at odds with meter and rhyme. I do think it sounds more pleasant than english though

japanese don't use the imperial system anymore, its fully metric

Is there a place where I can quiz myself on inflections like what jisho shows for verbs? Would be great if there's adjectives and suffixes (stuff like でしょう, たい, etc.) too.
Ideally something that can pull out a decent amount of random words because if it's always the same word it's going to lose effectiveness too quickly I guess.

>>38877460
those are conjugations

>>38877478
Conjugation is a type of inflection.

>>38877460
https://www.bunpro.jp/

had a lot of fun reading this morning! lets go again!!!

>>38877460
there's only 2.5 irregular verbs and the rest of the inflections are the same.
you're obviously very new so I strongly urge you to leave this thread before somebody tricks you into wasting a ton of time doing something retarded such as >>38877494

>>38877502
same but unironically!! jk!
>>38877505
too late

had a lot of fun reading and then jerking off to the doujin i was reading! lets go again!!!

>>38877567
no im dizzy from so much immersion i cant go again...

>>38877515
Considering what I asked I wouldn't have registered (and paid) for what seem to be a complete course. I need to know them quickly and don't have much time so I thought that repeatedly doing a quiz could have been a good way to hammer them in my head.

>>38877670
theres not really anything like what you want from what i know, the other anon is right, all verbs use the same rules, you can hammer them down in a couple days, just learn the exceptions by themselves, the rest are always the same

>>38877712
Alright, thank you for your help.

yea japanese is cool but penguins are cooler

i miss the variety in OP images

>>38877958
true true

>凸凹
this language is so fucking goofy

>>38877996
holy fuck theres tetris kanji?

>>38877505
that bitch boy was doing shitty study techniques of course he didn't succeed. whole article is a shitstorm of pathetic anki-drone cope

anki chads... im feeling dizzy...

>>38875725
Current thread: #3188

Previous threads:
>>38863960 #3187
>>38850100 #3186
>>38839617 #3185
>>38826708 #3184

>>38878201
dont
https://japantoday.com/category/features/opinions/why-you-shouldnt-learn-japanese

cant believe i wasted my time reading that, its a idiot zoomer "comedy" article that manages to say nothing and take thousands of words to do so

>>38878255
fucking loser idiot copes in the comments

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/t5vsgq/animecardssite/
qm winning. even reddit mods are posting threads about animecards.

I'm trying to figure out what the little girl says at 3:58 when she asks "do you speak Japanese?"

it is so fast and a bit slurred, I'm having trouble picking out the exact words she uses, anyone else here have better ears?

https://youtu.be/ya4x91s1GOY?t=237

>>38878675
too much noise cant make it out, plus her dazzling beauty blinds me sorry

>>38878835
yep the kids are really cute ngl

>>38878675
i have no idea what your question is

>>38878675
nihongeseで喋れる？

>>38878675
>you don't have to study nearly that long to have a conversation like the one you just saw
that "conversation" consisted of them asking each other if they speak jap and then her saying the kid is smart so I sure hope so

How the fuck did john do 50 new cards a day in 45 minutes? Even assuming he isn't including his reviews that still seems very fast.

how do you get google to ignore chink results when im searching for just a normal nihongo word

any update on the project uproot scam?

>>38879099
many people have done that, shill.

>>38879145
it seems that bill has withdrawn his support
https://www.projectuproot.jp/about

>>38879157
NOOOOOOOOO
BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's over

>>38879148
Maybe I just need to try harder then.

>>38878675
was going to beat off to her but her face is so ugly

>>38879168
you need to immerse instead of worrying about anki

>>38879177
I started learning like 5 days ago so not really ready for that yet. I'll probably continue core for 2 or 3 weeks then start immersing.

>>38879197
>tarted learning like 5 days ago
GO FULL ANKI
>>38865373
>>38875305

i need to immerse in manko

>>38879099
he's probably including his reviews and it's not insane, keep on mind he had a strong foundation for the words he reviewed because he immersed an insane amount

>>38879205
The first comment you quoted is exactly my plan anon. I'm also doing the cure dolly shit in the meantime as well.
>>38879220
He said he did 50 new cards of core 2k in 45 minutes everyday right after he finished kana. No foundation, complete beginner.

>>38878287
tis guy is p. based

>>38879209
Jk manko...jk omanko

since when did djt accept that jazzy actually did what he wrote in his reddit post? that guy who did 6.8k reps in a day lied for two days to milk the attention before admitting he knew many words from before. in the same way, jazzy could have easily lied about being a beginner on the discord.

大無し

>>38879258
i haven't forgotten that you were literally going to quora and posting pajeet "studies" as cope for jazzy being better than u

> Nukemarine
> 13 min. ago
>
> "Let's Reread Japanese - March 7, 2022" - For anyone interested, in a few minutes I'll be doing my livestream for the next few hours. Today is ~1 hour Anki review/study session followed by Let's Reread Japanese - 結婚できない男 ep 9 (He Who Can't Marry). After the stream is over, I'll also remove this message.
>
> Stream Link - https://www.twitch.tv/nukemarine

>>38879209
>>38879255

same, have a cute bald お猫 to tide you over bros
soon...!

>>38879277
that wasn't me. don't divert. what's the proof he didn't lie? all he did was join a discord and say he's a beginner. failing a discord quiz isn't hard. he could've been n1 before even "starting". it's very common to restart japanese among learners.

>>38879258
the sun and the stars exist, i know so even tho i cant touch them, or even look at the sun directly

same goes for jazzys magnificence
>>38879255
yabai

>>38879248
>because unlike most japanese learners of english, you will get there
pretty based indeed

>>38879331
anon i saw those posts too, they were made by Anonymous

>>38879316
cute

>>38879248
kanji aren't words

>>38879248
unfathomably based

>>38879099
easy if you do vocab cards and don't care about meaning

what is a kanji? just a miserable pile of secrets

>>38879331
ngmis spend all their day questioning jazzy, gmis don't care either way and look up to him as encouragement to work harder (but they aren't so schizo as to doubt the story anyway)

oh i believe him and i also believe doth and that's why i fear for japan's future

>>38878255
>all the arguments are based around not getting any benefits from speaking it
what about being able to understand it? tf
>comedy
?

>>38879394
>encouragement
are you 12? his whole shtick is based on him doing it in 8 months, so the first and most important thing to know is if he lied about when he started. it is a very natural question to ask, especially because there's almost no proof he wasn't continuing japanese from where he left off when he joined the discord.

new cards in my tango deck: 何もないッス

I wanna mine anime cards, but watching anime in front of my computer in a swivel chair is so unappealing. I want to get comfy, watch anime on my big tv and good speakers.
How can I have it both ways without hauling my pc around the house? maybe some kind of KVM switch or something?
what do you guys do?

>>38879495
don't need proof because it isn't unbelievable

>>38879515
Why would you need a KVM switch? Why not just hook your computer up to your TV and get a wireless keyboard and mouse?

>>38879394
true well said

>>38879522
some of us like having neat living spaces rather than living like this

>>38879509
gmi!
took it easy with adding the last couple days too i was overdoing it

>>38879522
because I have an actual space where I use my PC to do PC things instead of just being an oversized media player
in other words, this >>38879535

>>38879520
it isn't unbelievable that he could have lied about when he started. in fact, it's that's much more believable than what he claims. since you don't need proof for things that aren't unbelievable, you should accept he lied.

>>38879547
nah

>>38879551
but that contradicts what you said. you must be low iq. that would explain your stance

>>38879562
ok

>>38879566
okay. since there is little evidence to back up his extraordinary claim, there is a very high chance he lied for internet clout. the false promises of comparable, rapid gains would betray the expectations of beginners, and it is reckless and damaging to the community to promote potential lies. since you already admit you are low iq, you should also admit i am right and not post about this again.

>>38879608
nah

>>38879611
why not?

>>38879615
>>38879394

>>38879637
ngmis spend all their day defending jazzy, gmis don't care either way and ignore him (but they aren't so schizo as to believe the story anyway)

>>38879646
i posted 3 words total in the last 4 posts

>>38879515
notepad and pen, note down the episode and time and do it when you get back
i do the same thing with anime and manga when i'm doing it on my ipad

>>38879248
he's still retarded because he believes "learning kanji" is a thing and that memorizing the joyou kanji allows you to read anything which is fucking false. rest i somewhat agree with.

>>38879650
you made over 7 posts defending him

me welcoming my wife home after school

i hate ajatt for convincing people that as soon as they decide to learn japanese they need to never watch anime with english subs again. its a set-up for hating anime. you won't understand shit unless you watch at a snails pace and often not even then. it will ruin anime for you.

>>38879671
she seems happy to see her dad

>>38879099
hes lying unless he's doing sub 5 sec reps or he only did it for a few weeks, do the math

Ciaran did 60-80 animecards for 3y btw

>>38879515
dont even try to learn with anime its a waste of time do something that will get you real gains like vns or lns
anime is for casual watching just to help ur listening a little

4bc did 60ish for a year and he's a turbo autist

how much did bunko get on each section of the jlpt?

Yep
Keep coping NGMIs
John is the way

>>38879722
i feel like anime with japanese subs should get you huge gains because you're seeing the text and hearing it.
i don't do that though... i do vns for reading and audio drama for listening.

>>38879722
I thought you need the audible input to start out?

>>38879520
have you spent 8 months reading and mining japanese 6 hours a day?

>>38879719
>>38879726
Is that faster than Quizmaster?

>>38879745
He was doing 12hrs on the weekends too

>>38879759
i don't remember qm's stats, i remember he was around 25ish k a year ago and then slapped a 10k proper noun deck on top when he used to put his card count in his name

Me and my future jp gf

>>38879783
hot

i have never not slapped a woman back

>>38879783
GIWTWM

>>38879783
as one that has been attacked by a crazed girlfriend before, it isn't as fun as it looks, it actually really really sucks

>>38879394
cant look up to someone worse than me

>>38879726
he paid a heavy droning price
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/jp/thread/35764214/#35767174

>>38879017
ah cool, got it now, thanks

don't think she even used a particle actually

this is the kind of stuff they should teach in Genki, the actual real casual speak like kids do, not the ultra formal non-native sounding stuff that they spend all their time on

Let's be real
John probably learned more words though Immersion(6hrs) than mining anki.
Most people from here have ADHD and can't read for 6hrs straight.
Keep Coping

jizzy was already fluent in sanskrit or something so had a huge advantage over the average english speaker because the grammar patterns are basically the same. most asians living in japan become conversationally fluent within a matter of months because of this advantage

>L
didnt read

>>38879868
>jizzy was already fluent in sanskrit
watch his interview

>>38879809
what set her off?

>>38879853
for real. anki is just a memory trigger in case words don't pop up during your immersion. anki isn't for learning words.
t. anki drone

>>38879896
And waste precious immersion time? Nah.

>>38879853
yeah he got it right by prioritizing comprehensible immersion so early on. i spent 3 years prioritizing anki. reading for 30 minutes a day at best then mining every new word and trying to drill them all with anki. so much wasted time

>16
concession accepted

>>38879671
yabai, コドお願いします

Do you guys not listen to the sentence audio when you're doing the core deck or something? I don't know how you guys get through the cards so quickly. It's like you're speedreading

>>38879848
ur right there's no で, my bad

>>38879719
>>38879726
>>38879847
Are these users still in DJT, or did they graduate?

>>38879726
was 4king always like this? perhaps too many cards is what broke him
>>38879650
yeah this anon won, jazzy hater n6cels BTFO

>>38879809
been there
>tfw when you want to cry and don't know what you do and are worried if you touch her youll spent 5 years in jail
it really isn't as fun as it looks

>>38879995
>>38879997
something broke in 4bc after that og post
he also said that you need 50k anki cards to know japanese
i think the cards got to him

>>38879995
they were driven away by an evil witch

>>38879978
>Do you guys not listen to the sentence audio when you're doing the core deck or something?
Some people some people dont
>listen
imho Immersion is more value that listen to some sentece(core)

>>38879995
4bc is gone, ciaran doesn't use a tripcode and was gone for a few months but he's back now

>>38879853
i have adhd and i WILL MAKE IT
GAZE UPON MY STIMULANTS AND DESPAIR
rattata bros we gmi

Today was a good day
Mined a bunch of words
Had 90% retention on reviews
Played some video games
Played DnD

Can't get much better than that

>>38880013
So you reckon I should skip the sentence audio and spend that time doing immersion instead?

>>38879978
i read aloud with every card, its still 5 secs or so per card, i used to doubt fast people but you do get faster

>>38879783
wish my gf loved me enough to whoop my ass like thisnjag

>>38880006
i can see bc all coomer faced going "just one more card and ill stop.. just one more...:

>>38880023
yep.

>>38879995
I have not the heart to tell you the tale of 4bro, for it is one of great tragedy and sadness and for me the grief is still too near. Suffice to say, he committed murder-suicide with the woman that he loved.

>>38879978
listen to the audio when it’s a new card, and when you fail it. if it’s not a new card and you passed it don’t listen to the aidio

>>38880017
based, unfathomably so, did my reps, spoke with some friends, got all vampire survivor achievements, read some, played elden ring, and now im making food

why do you think learners get obsessed with anki?
is it a control issue? wanting to feel in control of the learning process and being uncomfortable with the spontaneity and unpredictability of natural acquisition?

>>38880024
I read aloud with every card too, but sentence audio adds like 3-4 extra seconds so I'm hitting 8-11s total. Maybe I'm still just slow and retarded
>>38880041
Might give that a go then, thanks anon

>>38880053
Fear that they're wasting their time trying to learn this language when they could be doing something else. They get obsessed with maximising efficiency

>>38880053
honestly, probably because anki is comfi and you get good at it and nip content is always sorta hard and annoying, and the card autists get a lot of dissonance if they don't understand EVERYTHING
im an adhd retard and have played several games, read lots of things, and had a fun with japanese and feel a ton of progress every day, never missed a day either... but i don't hover, i don't text hook, and im fine with the idea i havent made it yet, and its fine if i don't understand everything, in fact, onstead of being frustrated at what i dont get, im happy at what i do, a year ago i didn't know a single kanji

also holos

what the heck is 'comprehensible immersion' and where do i find it?

>>38880076
interesting. that might also explain why they are so resistant to reading more. they want to game the system and skip that step since reading for hours a day takes a significant time investment

>nip content is always sorta hard
holofags suck you heard it here first

>>38880059
8 to 11 secs isn't bad, honestly im prolly around there most cards, the ones i know really well go faster tho, anyway you are gonna make it, i recognize your posts

>>38880002
if i was in that situation i would eventually convince myself that i'm fucked and going to prison anyway and then proceed to cave her skull in
as you're posting and talking about the situation in the past tense, i'm glad that you're a much more reasonable and measured man than i will ever be

>>38880053
>>38880076
autism. i spreadsheets, calendars, planners, trains, etc. its only natural for me to enjoy anki i like seeing the stats go up and the summaries and all the optimizations. seeing how many words you """know""" grow by the thousands is addicting.
i replaced that with logging my reading hours and char/hour and now im actually making gains

>>38880098
it depends on your level...
i like to listen to NHK 青春アドベンチャー

can any non NEETs/people with more responsibility tell me about how much/what they do with JP on the day to day? I crawled out of the NEET cave and it’s hard to keep up.

>>38880093
>the card autists get a lot of dissonance if they don't understand EVERYTHING
that was my problem. i had a visceral anxiety response every time i saw a word i didn't know. i had to put it in anki right away so i never had to feel that feeling again, at least for that word. i suspect i wasn't the only one with that problem.

>>38880101
hahahaha yeah, i really do, bro im just an anonymous retard, my self worth doesn't come from being good at this, ego is the enemy of growth and learning, i just have fun and do my best every day
i like holos childlike enthusiasm, its funny, i don't get why people like you detest them, they are comfy anime girls, i get why serious business smug retards like say bc hated holos but eh
it doesn't matter, cheers bro been a good day

Anyone with Kindle unlimited want to rip some books? I'm looking for https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0977PB58H?binding=kindle_edition

>>38880093
それを本末転倒って言うんだよ

>>38880053
There's a sense of progression. I can see how strong my vocabulary is and how long I have to go before my next goal. The fear of just jumping into reading is the fear of missing out. Sometimes the fastest and only way to get a boulder to the other end of the street is to just push it until it gets there, but that doesn't stop the pushing from being viewed as an arduous, inefficient task.

>>38880006
>>38880012
>>38880014
>>38880043
It looks like this thread has some very interesting characters and history. I've never heard of users doing so much Anki in such a short time. I should lurk more, I am curious about the witch too

>>38880113
uni gf anon, everything around uni is plastered with what happens if you even mildly annoy a woman, you lose your life and future right there, i have come to record EVERYTHING, and recommend people do same, it has saved my ass, i wont give more details but eh, women these days are dangerous, i love them, but eh, its like dealing with bees, you wear protection and take precautions or get stung. even if you record everything i hope you don't touch em, especially if you are fit, the world hates men and will destroy you if you give it a excuse, nobody will even listen to your side
anyways enough about that

>>38880167
you missed the train the witch is also dead

>>38880131
I don't have any other hobbies, I just watch and read Japanese shit. Best way is to be a NEET in all but having a job.

>>38880138
yeah i don't do that, i have a strict "no interrupting whatever im doing" rule, thats also why i don't hover or the like, eventually the anxiety of "missing out" goes away, if whatever is important enough youll remember and look it up later, if it isn't its not worth stressing over, at least thats how i do things

>>38880154
>本末転倒
i feel like there is some irony in me adding this to my anki, but i couldn't stop myself...

>>38880167
>witch
he meant goddess, she was our eros, our input girl, og, wherever you are, ill never forget our times

>>38880167
her feet weren't great

https://youtu.be/es47m47Yli8
rip bunkbro. i wonder how many lonely housewifes i can sleep with

why do people like og other than she's a roastie?
always found her fucking annoying

>>38880220
lol i know what you mean

>>38880243
>og
>woman
= manko
easy

>>38880167
through an inexplicable turn of events the bakemono of djt have all been fuuin'd

>>38880142
dont mind that anon he is not well we all love holos here. for me its kanatan

ngl
Analcream sounds really shit
https://vocaroo.com/1klBjfOmqjdq

>>38880237
lies, she had the prehensile feet of a goddess... and the manko... oh god the manko...
>>38880240
hell be back, he always is
>>38880255
this, also she had a nice voice

Ankibros, how do you cope with duplicates with different readings?
額　がく　ひたい
頭　あたま　かしら
音　おと　ね
陸　おか　りく
間　あいだ　かん　ま
開ける　あける　ひらける
開く　あく　ひらく
金　かね　きん
都　と　みやこ
辛い　からい　つらい
訳　やく　わけ
表　おもて　ひょう
行き　いき　ゆき
良い　いい　よい
臭い　くさい　におい
空く　あく　すく
空　そら　から
私　わたし　わたくし
目下　めした　もっか
生　せい　なま
流行　はやり　りゅうこう
毎年　まいとし　まいねん
止める　とめる　やめる
柄　え　がら
札　さつ　ふだ
末　すえ　まつ
月日　がっぴ　つきひ
昨日　きのう　さくじつ
昨夜　さくや　ゆうべ
明日　あした　あす　みょうにち
方々　かたがた　ほうぼう
方　かた　ほう
抱く　いだく　だく
後　あと　のち
年月　としつき　ねんげつ
市場　いちば　しじょう
島　しま　とう
居る　いる　おる
家　いえ　うち
夜　よ　よる
埋める　うずめる　うめる
四　よん　し
博士　はかせ　はくし
何　なに　なん
他　た　ほか
今日　きょう　こんにち
九　きゅう　く
中　ちゅう　なか
世論　せろん　よろん
下　げ　した　もと
上下　うえした　じょうげ
上　うえ　かみ　じょう
七　しち　なな
一昨日　いっさくじつ　おととい
一昨年　いっさくねん　おととし

>>38880279
true true
>>38880267
unfathomably based

>>38880294
>she had a nice voice
TRUE
https://vocaroo.com/9G3EugAy2Iw

wish I grew up with parents in a stable home
guess I can cope by self inserting in japanese fiction

>>38880301
hint field

after you finish a deck do you continue reviews until every card is mature or delete the deck?

>>38880301
i make a general card with the kanji and all its readings and a couple words, and make individual cards for each reading, its annoying with the things that have no indication of what they should be, but eh, i just think all readings (say 是, which is ぜ、これ、and a bunch of other things or the nightmare one, 為 which is a ton of things)

>>38880318
>reviews until every card is mature
70-80%

>>38880324
kanji cards with all the readings what?

>>38880306
don't worry anon my mom was shit and a self-absorbed narcissist incapable of real love. at the end of the day you're still here and you have the freedom to do anything you want with your awesome mind

>>38880301
two cards.
front: 額 (1)\
back: がく

front: 額 (2)
back: ひたい

>>38880290
is he african or some jungle asian?
>>38880305
i always thought this was jamal.

>>38880301
i use my brain

>>38880326
Idgi

>>38880290
what the.......

>>38880301
get good and you will just understand them

>>38880346
>is he african
Greek
>
Jamal Vocaroo
https://vocaroo.com/1dvTaYVqstq4

>>38880290
If that really is analcream then he somehow managed to sound more annoying than I was already imagining him

turns out analcream is an annoying jamaican
who would've thunk it

>>38880338
true, same, sometimes the best thing you can do is move out, its expensive but freedom is valuable
>>38880240
im happy bunbro isn't here today, means hes had a good time with his girl (i hope), he spends most the weekends with her i think

wtf i hate anacreon now

i like anaking, shame he doesn't post here much, wonder how long its been

>>38880356
We are talking about Core2.3k(1.9k words), right?
Once you have 1k-1.5k mature cards you can delete the deck

>>38880392
>We are talking about Core2.3k(1.9k words), right?
no jalup

>>38880398
i don't review jalup outside of the all jap jap def card, and i don't rep those as anki cards, just look at them before bed sometimes so dunno, i do jalup in its app

>>38880388
youre not gonna believe it… he hasnt posted here since march

forced meme isnt funny

>>38880406
no way it feels like just yesterday... how time flies

lol

>>38880404
>i don't review jalup outside of the all jap jap def card
I’m still in the beginner deck but they’re separated by stages (ex. beginner stage 1, 2 etc)
>I do jalup in its app
oh I have the deck files

>>38880398
>jalup
I don't use jalup
idk, 1k senteces/vocab and delete the app.
Mine your own cards.

back in the day, i had an iphone 5s and i could swear that you could highlight a word and then open up a dictionary entry for it... does android have anything similar?

>>38880449
jalup is different, its uhm, grammar lessons/light reading, its not really a vocab deck, who knows im enjoying it, its just something mindless to do before bed
>>38880439
keep it separated and rep it when you feel like? i dubno if you feel like you get something out of it, rep it, if you don't, you dont, i only read the cards a couple times and "get" what they are saying, i don't try to memorize them, i treat it as reading
>>38880413
huh? whos forcing you to meme bro? couldn't be anacreon, see >>38880406

Analbros...
So, he lied, the reason why he didn't used his voice wasn't because of his family but because he have a shit voice lmao
https://youtu.be/OAXEjGkICrs?t=704

>>38880467
chrome does it, and i know so cause i had to turn it off its annoying as fuck, if you want desktop plugins on android try kiwi browser

>>38880467
yeah i can highlight words and send it to an app like takoboto, gtranslate, etc

>>38880467
yeah apple devices come with 大辞林 dictionary

>>38880318
anki is forever
(suspend every card above a 300 day interval)

>>38880495
>>38880496
how does it work?
my only options are: コピー、共有、すべて選択 when i tap and hold over a word.

>>38880488
>keep it separated and rep it when you feel like?
I think I’ll do that
>something out of it, rep it, if you don't, you dont, i only read the cards a couple times and "get" what they are saying, i don't try to memorize them, i treat it as reading
I’ve been memorizing them since the beginner deck teaches a lot of core grammar and to prepare for the intermediate jap-jap deck

>>38880527
pixel 6 pro android 12 after pressing ...

>>38880541
the jap jap deck has a lot of the same words bro

>>38880546
wtf... apple sisters why don’t we have that?

>>38880546
hmm, i have a pixel 4a running android 12 and i don't get that menu on the right that you have -- would they really deny features to poor people like me who use their old phones?

>>38880546
what do you need to run to get that? I'm on a pixel 3a

>>38880568
true but I have dogshit memory

>>38879984
on another note, isn't it always sobering when you see a 4 year old child that speaks the language you are trying to learn 10000 times better than you can

drives me nuts, because I've been studying Japanese 4 years now, and Japanese 2 year olds are better than me

>>38880580
>>38880587
ah it doesn't seem to work in some input boxes like discord but I can get that menu by highlighting basically anywhere with text like Firefox, play store, my notepad, etc
maybe you don't have an app that accepts the intents?

>>38880612
me too, it is so frustrating when you forget something you learned a week ago, such an uphill battle all the time

>>38880643
what app are you using that accepts?

>>38880439
I did the beginner deck of jalup some months ago and stopped repping it soon after I finished it. In hindsight I should have kept repping it for a while longer, because I ended up having to relearn stuff.

>>38880627
have you been surrounded by japanese your every waking moment for those past 4 years or anywhere close to that? if not then why even make a comparison it makes no sense

>>38880643 (me)
that menu pops up after I press ... here if I didn't make that clear

>>38880655
I have a bunch that seem to work like anki, Google translate, pleco (Chinese), takoboto, and kanji study

i keep losing friends because i never text back the people who message me. feels too めんどくさい and by the time i get around to messaging back (weeks to months later) they're done with me

>>38880676
thanks dude. i don't have that for whatever reason and that's okay.
now i'm depressed that i remember how slick and nice the iphone's built-in dictionary is. it's almost enough to make me switch back to an iphone for my next phone.

>>38880661
Ok maybe I’ll start repping it

>>38880699
ぼくも！

>>38880699
just text them back bro

>>38880715
sorry to hear that
it seems to be a default feature called the text selection toolbar if you wanna try looking stuff up but I'm not sure why you don't have it
https://dev.to/bigaru/providing-custom-text-selection-actions-in-android-1akc
https://material.io/design/platform-guidance/android-text-selection-toolbar.html

>>38880813
its funny i don't have it either, must be a regional thing, but i imagine there must be a way to get it

did any of you consider learning chinese at any point?

>>38880849
No

Hello! I am a newcomer here, started to learn Hiragana 11 days ago and now I'm finishing Katakana. I came from /int/'s DJT since that thread has a very weird Russian schizo and is mostly dead, also you guys seem nice!
Interesting how the website in the OP is different from the one /int/ uses (https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/)), I'll check out this one as well!

Is there something you wish you had done or avoided when you first started learning?

どうぞよろしくおねがいします。

>>38875725

Read the DJT guide to git gud https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.

Previous thread: >>38863960

>>38880905
whatever you do, don't listen to the people here who are about to reply with "I regret anki" or "vocab/animecards were the worst decision I ever made"
follow the moe way or animecards or john guide they're all good
good luck anon :)

>>38880905
basically avoid all shit guides (itazura, animecards, tmw) and read tatsumoto.

>>38880905
The guide you follow doesn't matter too much and we have our own special breed of schizos but the most important thing to know is how important it is that you enjoy the process. If you can't enjoy learning, you probably won't make it.

>>38875751
>>38878290
>>38879719
>>38880928
>>38875725
Disturbing facts about the so-called a*imecards and his "guide".

0) It was MattvJapan's "Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards" video that made him known to the public. and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his trannycord server.
1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.
2) He's Russian.
3) He created a fake "djt" cringecord server where he made numerous racist and trans-phobic comments. He's a racist and a white supremacist.
4) His "server" has nothing to do with the DJT Matrix space.
5) He hosts his site on Github (owned by Micro$oft).

He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does.

>>38880949
we moved away from tatusmoto, the fake djt telegram and all other russian sites

>>38880949
fuck M*tt

>>38880959
>we moved away from tatusmoto
djt recommends only tatsumoto
>the fake djt telegram
there's no "fake" djt telegram
>and all other russian sites
never used any russian sites lol. telegram is not a site and it was never recommended.

>>38880905

tatsucuckhold is a spammer and a scammer, nuff said, also the int schizo is polish

>>38880974
no, djt recommends anything BUT that mentally ill spammer

>>38880949
>he's russian
And? That's racist.

>>38880985
so basically anything except animecards and anacreon
>>38880987
>And?
i don't know, i'm not the first to mention this fact about him.

>>38880758
kinda relieved i’m not alone. posting on djt is just so much less effort and more fun
>>38880791
i think i overthink what to say. or i’m not that interested in what they’re saying so that creates dissonance, having to pretend

>>38880928
>good luck anon :)
Thank you! I'll make sure to check the guides you mentioned

>>38880931
>itazura
What's wrong with Itazura? It seemed good so far, I really like their kana writing training game, spent hours doing that to memorize all of them

>>38880941
>how important it is that you enjoy the process
True! So far I've been loving it, just being able to understand Kana after spending years thinking japanese was impossible to learn meant a lot to me!

>>38880976
>int schizo is polish
I might be thinking of /lang/'s schizo then, I know one of them is a russian! And a very sour one!

>>38881020
itazura's guide piles a bunch of shit into one bag and makes it hard for beginners to figure out what they should do.
> kana writing training game
if you start using anki, it's going to be more efficient.
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kana-in-two-days.html

>>38880995
stop propagating stupidity then

>>38881020
Are you a woman?

>>38881177
why are you asking that?

i think i’m gonna hit 5 hours of reading today bros!!!

>>38875751
>>38875725
Disregard SHIT advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・tmw/The moe way. Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny.
・any rentry.org and геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners.
・Anime cards (the guide by someone named QM). It recommends words cards, which are proven to be less effective than targeted sentence cards (TSCs).
・Core 2.3k. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Ankidrone Starter Pack instead.
・Anacreon. Anacreon is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
・Discord servers. Discord is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Matrix.
・Refold, Migaku and other money grab schemes.
・Visual novels. People say they're trash because of unnatural speech and useless vocabulary. Most VNs are proprietary ー https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

tatsumoto is the best guide.

I can't find Overlord anywhere with JP subs

Love falls apart under scrutiny. You realize it makes no sense and it dissolves.

That's why I'm thinking the Japanese tendency to avoid analysis is pretty based. And you need to avoid analysis at least until your feelings have settled to avoid changing them in the process, which is why "real-time analysis" is doubly gay.

>>38880493
>i have a wife and kids to worry about
>obsesses over matt to the point he makes several videos and keeps spamming djt about him

>>38881224
false, love never ends

>>38881223
it's on kitsunekko

>>38881202
GMI SO HARD

>>38881236
damn sounds like love is ngmi

>>38881224
love can’t be scrutinized dummy only felt
get out of your prefrontal cortex and into your body dude

>>38881223
Nevermind, found them. I don't know why JP subs aren't included in the normal fucking torrents

>>38881254
this guy is gonna make it!

BROS I LOVE WOMEN! (og and holos and hanako are women is the implication)

sometimes i worry ill eat my future japanese holo gf gyaru jk babe mankos right off

You guys scare me sometimes.

>>38881097
we moved away from russians

>>38881349
its the power of ogs pheromones, one whiff of her kampeki kirei manko and youre done

f 4 4bc

>>38879248
except for how shit sorting in japanese is

>>38881451
sorting what?

>>38881464
their alphabet ordering

>>38881480
oh i know what you mean now, paper 辞書 are impossible to use

dakanaito

>>38881364
from what

Finished my words for the day. Told you fuckers it would take 2 hours

want to learn japanese but I hate people who learn japanese

sentence cards, not even once

>>38879515
no clue how beginner you are, but i just use plex and dont mine anything

>>38881622
I feel the same anon.

>>38881622
why does you learning have to have anything to do with them

>>38881622
the japanese learning community is incredibly toxic compared to most language learning communities

sometimes i forget complete beginners can enter and be a part of this thread at any time

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1418105277
now nuke is fucking up the level of his japanese students learning english

>>38881762
>heike monogatari
Glad to the nips appreciate it at least.

>>38881662
other communities don't have to deal with all the shit we get like tatsumoto and luddites, not to mention all the ngmi weebs, although there's less of them in this thread they're rampant elsewhere

>>38881762
im watching all of us are dead, good so far

>>38881616
kek go9d job bro

>>38881795
我らは日本語は永遠に出来ないかも知れない

>>38875725

Memento is a free and open source, mpv-based video player that makes studying Japanese easier with a built in popup dictionary, Anki integration, and more.

https://github.com/ripose-jp/Memento

what attracts you about the japanese spirit?

>>38881795
>>38881850
but making it has nothing to do with other people its about how much time you personally spend reading and listening to comprehensible input

>>38881897
true true
>>38881892
manko looks tasty
>>38881853
dame

>>38881513
I mean even if you need to look through the categories on a porn site is impossible like wtf is this ordering

>>38881892
Porn games.

'member when billy eyelash was all about not showing her salacious body

I've just been doing anki? How am I supposed to immerse? Anime is so fast

やくにたつにほんご

>ききて
>利き手

ききてはどっち？

>>38881928
read manga. im not that good at japanese but i can read everything by the takagi mangaka as if im fluent. and that tip works with everything, really. instead of learning japanese you can think of it as learning how to read a certain series or genre or author or type of game or whatever, because there's a lot of repeated words within the same general domain

>>38881917
crazy how pedos can make such beautiful art

>>38881928
for now keep watching anime with english subs, maybe repeat 1 episode every now and then raw. but your main immersion should be manga with furigana or visual novels

How the fuck do you read and immerse when you have ADHD? With anki I can set a timer and it activates my hyper focus because of the adrenaline, but you can't do that with reading. So painful trying to decipher what's happening.

Help me ADHDbros, I know you're in here. The stimmies make me too fucking anxious

even if you don't believe in souls its crazy to realize that each of us is essentially an immaterial consciousness capable of processing waves of light and sound into meaningful experiences that we can feel in our bodies

>>38881853
we can't stop fucking winning memento bros!

>>38882014
you really do just eventually learn to love doing it enough. its very painful getting there though, even now im stopping mid chapter to post on here. just try not to beat yourself up over it and do what you can and you just eventually make it, i assure you

>>38881980
>>38882011
Not him but doesn't everyone says you need to start with anime with JP subs before manga so you can work on listening and your reading voice? Or is that just a meme?

>>38882003
The love for little girls is the strongest love in the world desu!

>>38882040
if you were an anime fan before learning japanese you should be covered on that front for now imo, pitch accentards may say otherwise. i would really just focus on increasing your comprehension of ANY japanese as much as you can and worry about your accent once you can actually understand japanese in any capacity. personally i used visual novels to train my listening so i dont really have any advice for that other than read vns or watch easy sol anime after you get pretty comfortable reading manga

reading is too hard bros, im going back to anki

>>38882077
nooooo don't do it bro just read an easy cute girls mangaaaa

Whenever I watch moe anime I always get this feeling like there's somebody behind me glaring at me, but when I turn around nobody is there. Does anybody else get this feeling? Making it very hard to learn Japanese

>>38882089
same but its my dad because the pc is in the living room

>>38881928
You can’t learn Japanese from anime. The people who said you can are snake oil salesmen. The simple fact is that you need to just read more. Right now. Maybe you can treat yourself with a couple of episodes of raw anime when you want to relax but the majority of your immersion time should be hardcore reading of native materials and nothing else.

"language learning" is cargo cult behavior

>>38882030
wise guy jamal

arghhhhh I CANT FUCKING DO IT READING THIS SHIT IS TOO BORING. I'M BOOTING UP TSUKIHIME

>>38882084
I find the print is too small, kanji has so many tiny lines that don't really matter to a native speaker that can recognize the general shape, but trying to learn it as a foreigner those little lines make all the difference and it is really hard to see well in a typical manga

>>38881917
>>38882058
proprietary software is for shitheads. go back to pisscord.

never used anki. never will. anti anki bros! rise up! we are gmi.

>>38882119
how about you stop fucking complaing ya nigger?

if my legally blind ass can deal with furigana you can too

What if I'm illegally blind?

than you arent long for this world

wish bunko was here

i think i'm going blind

is there a japanese equivalent of twitch?

>>38882234
these balls

>>38882089
lmfao no
that might be paranoia bro
or do you feel ashamed for watching it?

yay or nay?

>>38882398
Their is plenty of killing in Japan games/anime this is pretty dumb

>>38882398
this is dumb but objectively sex is better than violence. violence literally takes away peoples lives sex gives enjoyment and pleasure (at least when done with the right person)

>>38882398
a country is comprised of people with different beliefs and opinions

>>38882125
>murder is good, love is bad

Is it bad to do new cards in batches? For instance is it okay have my new daily cards set at 15 and then after increase it by 15 if I want to do 30 in total? I do reviews in between which makes things more manageable for me.

I'm trying to transcribe this song but the synth voice is really fucking me, any ideas? It's a bit too garbled to tell if it's japanese or english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM5D64KmXhg
(intro section has clearer voice clips, the section at 1m seems to use the same vocal bites and is what I'm transcribing)

>(?) キタコレ
>I can't help saying キタコレ
>w (?) いけ ワクテカ
>I can't help but ワクテカ

>>38882596
haven't watched 1000 anime, can't call yourself an otaku

>>38882673
what about 1000 jav then?

>>38882673
i've watched 45 anime i am a baby otakuuuu

>>38882130
Based

how do you people communicate with people to make friends with the same hobbies as you?
"oh yeah i jerked off to that vn"
"same"
cant talk to jp cause lack of knowledge, and they all seem to have adhd as a race
can mainly only see people as ways to get vn downloads

>>38882807
>and they all seem to have adhd as a race
maybe they just don't want to wait around for a slow dekinai to take 2 minutes to write watashi ha gei

>>38881980
this is why beginner retards shouldn't give advice, stfu

>>38882011
>but your main immersion should be manga with furigana or visual novels
how are you going to get good at listening

>>38882014
just keep switching between things bro use your adhd to your advantage

>>38882807
Jerking off isn't a hobby though, it's an addiction.

>>38882522
how tf is this real dude do you need to ask other people for permission to breathe or something like wtf can make it wrong if anything it makes it better cause you're spacing the words out but for real chill

>>38877160
>rhyme
everything they say rhymes tho

>>38882994
>and they all seem to have adhd as a race
observed from jp to jp interactions
>>38883053
talking about vn's and showing what's normally said in eng groups

>>38883060
I'm retarded

>>38883089
>observed from jp to jp interactions
doramas?

>>38883115
no
anymore unrelated questions?

>>38879783
salsa?

>>38883142
might as well ask where you've observed them since that seems to be unrelated to it for you as well

>>38883145
damn... view same and someone mentioned that it might be chinese
i dont need the source anymore

>>38883174
might as well be a fucking nigger since you seem to act like one

*dabs*

>>38882807
I don't talk about the porn that VNs have, I just talk about stuff like the plot, characters, art, music, etc. What the fuck is there to discuss about porn?

>>38883181
your monitor is off dude

From now on I'm going to face things head on, no more running. I'm going to start my journey again. I'm going back the beginning, I will learn hiragana again, Then I'll start kanji and katakana. There's no more running, I'm facing it head on. There's no more trying, just doing.

What led to this realization? Yesterday I read a kanji. I read 私. I was just able to read it somehow. I felt a sense of pride and realized "I can do this". I never felt like I was getting anywhere. But after reading that kanji, I knew I was going to get it. And I realized what I'd done. And now I've gotten up.

You haven't failed. Japanese isn't hard. It's the change that is. It's only hard for you because it's new. Don't give up, get back up. You can do this. You will succeed! Good luck everyone! You hard work will payoff. Have faith in yourself, and get back up.

>>38883253
i understand what you mean about discussing porn, but i still manage to draw blanks when trying to talk about what you mentioned, without coming across as just repeating what the story told

>>38883286
haha, I started before you. Gonna be impregnating nippon women a month before you do

>>38883286
this sounds like something calvin wrote

>>38883307
I usually just say things like
>I like how X did things in this way
An example would be that I read Bakuman recently and told one of my friends about it. Really liked the portrayal of how rivalry between people and competition brings out the best in someone. In ways the story is a portrayal of how storytellers (and artists) have been battling it out since time memorial in shounen-esque fights, where different creators seek to break unspoken rules of different mediums and formats. One of the few times I've properly enjoyed a shounen series.

I got Tsukihime working with onscripter but having a very hard time finding the hook. It's over, bros...

>>38883770
try using your eyes

>>38883778
Not working bro

>>38883785
google handwriting input when that fails
hooking is fine when it works but dont let hooking control your life

>>38883814
>looking up words baaaaaaaad

>>38883842
did you even read my post
dont @ me again retard

Nevermind, it seems like my refresh rate was causing problems with tsukihime. Got it working without onscripter

>>38883891
>no pain no gain!!!!!!!

>>38883932
if youre gonna @ me again can you reply to somethin i said and not the voices in your head retard

>>38883964
>say no to hooking get hookers

when u assume u make an ass out of u and me

man found dead after a hooking overdose

you can hook all you want just dont avoid somethin you want to play cuz you cant hook it thats all im sayin

i know, i'm just shitposting.

>>38882573
hes saying KTKR キタコレ and WKTK ワクテカ

>>38879719
never done any animecards in my life

yoshi, now it's time for some breakfast. might start mining cards today.

hooking is degenerate

degeneracy is based

my second monitor is broken and reading is so uncomfortable now that i cant have the vinnie in full screen in one monitor and the texthooker html on the other
people who only use 1 i kneel

well vns were made with 1 screen in mind you just look at the pictures and read the text below

>>38884138
>>38876374
GTFO FAKE CIARAN

>>38884363
ngmi

>>38884395
he did pure vocab cards not anigay cards

>>38884363
how you're actually learning japanese

>>38884395
>i just did plain vocab cards
>nor were all of the cards i did vocab
what?

>>38884500
when he studied vocab it was with vocab cards
he also studied other things that were not vocab

>>38882522
yea

japanese people are boring

degeneracy is base (not based). I have some degenerate desires, but I wish I didn't. such is life.

on a thread-related note, I'm gonna read a little.

>>38884760
im in it for the koe not the naiyou

>>38881853
this is how i picture og

>>38882058
true true!

>>38882058
nano

memento bros are the only ones who gonna make it

>>38882089
same but its my mom, shes been sitting on my lap and it works better, she smells so good it distracts my immersion sometimes