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A place for discussion of the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
MEGA Link
https://mega.nz/folder/3hMjEaTK#TKTKhfXVd9v0emG8ePsDVQ

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf (embed)
Tsukihime Remake Assets (OST and Sprites)
https://pastebin.com/ZLiqB1AT (embed)
Tsukihimates and Clover Moon MTL Project (Please contribute if you can)
https://github.com/Tsukihimates/Tsukihime-Translation

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3113948
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://nyaa.si/view/961297
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://ww.mangakakalot.tv/manga/manga-kc952437
Heaven's Feel Movie Booklet Translation
https://imgur.com/a/se9NHn6

>Angel Voice (one of the first works released by TM)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI

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>> No.38801701,1 [INTERNAL] 

Morning /TMG/!

>> No.38800842

>>38800806
Wh-what's happening in the OP pic?

>> No.38800913

>>38800842
Shiki wanted to drink breast milk, so Akiha tells him to suck on SHIKI's nipples since he can lactate.

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>> No.38801010

>>38800913
Thanks.

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https://twitter.com/uyuki/status/1488160489633087488

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https://twitter.com/ezekquel/status/1498244159161143300

>> No.38801222

Akiha x Kohaku is the best Tsukihime ship. Make it happen, Nasu.

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>> No.38801701

>>38800806
>(embed)(embed)
Not again

>> No.38802343

Okay so I was looking at the Hollow Moon website and it looks like progress for the TL actually went backwards?
This archive of their progress from like two weeks ago has the TL done, the TLC at 85% and the editing at 70%:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220207113833/https://ghpages.hollow-moon.org/wohn-tl/
And their apparently updated website has now split the edit portion into "final edit" and "QC", neither of which are past day 8.
https://www.hollow-moon.org/projects/mahoyo/
Am I missing something or did like half their editing progress just vanish?

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>>38794945
>>38802343
>Not only it's going at snail's pace, now they are actually deleting their progress
You can't make this shit up.
Remember when the Remake was announced and they called dibs on the translation, saying they were ALMOST DONE with Mahoyo's re-translation?

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>>38802732
>remember when the remake was announced and they called dibs on the translation
jesus christ we really dodged a bullet here

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more ciel, lads

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https://twitter.com/tsubuanfes/status/1498264566513672197

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>>38802343
In case you missed the catch, Mahoyo will never get a proper translation from these buffoons. E-peen stroke is just too much to give up on. Tsuki:RE will get a full patch, Red Garden will come out and you'd still be waiting for the "7th revision" of the Mahoyo patch. Might as well deepL that shit at that point.

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>> No.38805146

>>38804565
>Might as well learn Japanese and experience the works how they should be read instead of relying on butchered translations
FTFY

>> No.38806000

>>38805146
>learning Japanese for a Visual novel is a cakewalk
Why do fags pretend that learning Japanese is some easy path when it's one of the most aggravating languages to understand

>> No.38806006

>>38806000
No one said it was a "cakewalk" but you're not gonna make it with that attitude.

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>>38804039

>> No.38806014

>>38806000
Literally who are you quoting?

>> No.38806039

>>38806006
>>38806014
Every single one of you vocal niggers who pretend you know moon runes as if your understanding isn't MTL tier

>> No.38806045

I'm still baffled that Nasu took my face and my whole personality to create Tohno Shiki without even crediting me.

>> No.38806054

>>38806039
This is my favorite EOP cope.

>> No.38806059

I'm still baffled that Nasu took my face and my whole personality to create Saiki Goto without even crediting me.

>> No.38806089

>>38806054
Gambs you will always be a pasty little white cuck who will never be a Jap or understand Japanese, no matter how many Anki reps you shove up your ass

>> No.38806106

>>38806089
what the fuck, I thought gambs was /ourguy/

>> No.38806114

>>38806089
>Gambs
Can someone explain this eceleb to me?

>> No.38806117

>>38805146
Is learning a hard language for a novel worth it?

>> No.38806127

>>38806117
Yes, you can only experience the true Don Quijote de la Mancha experience once you learn spanish.

>> No.38806136

>>38806117
It's wanting to read the novel that motivates you and makes the process easier.

>> No.38806145

>>38806117
If you like Japanese media enough (this is /jp/ so I'm going to assume yes), then it's easily worth it. The whole world of VNs, LNs, manga, etc. opens up to you.

>> No.38806160

>>38806117
It can be but you may go insane from how retarded the Japanese language is

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>>38806117
if you like typemoon enough to regularly post on a dedicated thread just for it, then it might be worth it

>> No.38806250

>>38806160
English is pretty retarded too, but you presumably managed.

>> No.38806286

>You'll grow up to be a great man, Shiki... maybe you'll even become the Princess of the Moon™...
Really?

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learning japanese isnt that bad bros, im almost done learning hiragana

>> No.38806495

I'm still baffled that Nasu took my face and my whole personality to create Tohsaka Rin without even crediting me.

>> No.38806857

I'm still baffled that Nasu took my face and my whole personality to create Shinj Matou without even crediting me.

>> No.38807281

>>38806000
Nobody said it's easy. However, at the rate that the translation is going, it'll be years if not a decade before it's fully done. In which case it actually is enough time to actually lean moon (if you're not lazy).

>>38806117
>worth it
If you also like learning new languages and learning about other cultures, then yes.

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What did Himuro mean by this?

>> No.38808703

>>38808690
in addition to being cute himuro is also a yurifag
truly wife material

>> No.38808715

>>38808703
Indeed.

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>My, [Saber's butt is] a feast for the eyes
What did Rin mean by this?

>> No.38809155

>>38809116
everyone in Fate is gay

>> No.38809281

>>38806286
I clapped.

>> No.38809294

>>38809116
Well it's not like she didn't fuck saber before

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>> No.38809900

>>38809116
She is just teasing her. Sakura would have said the same for example although she is definitely not into that.

>> No.38809961

>>38809900
>Sakura would have said the same for example
(X) Doubt.

>> No.38809971

marrying ciel

>> No.38809983

>>38809898
don't lewd Aoko.

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what did she mean by this?

>> No.38810388

>>38810328
Zelretch dimension dream magic will be part of the Arc true route.

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>> No.38810419

>>38810403
He won.

>> No.38810716

>>38806000
You're gonna spend the rest of your life on 4chan anyway, are you going to learn the language or bitch about shit translations or the next four decades?

>> No.38810949

>>38810403
I don't know if this guy was supposed to be smart or retarded.

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>> No.38812768

>>38810949
He got away with a lot of killing and torture so I saw he won. He also felt fulfilled at the end of his life.

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>>38812569

>> No.38813181

>>38812569
>>38813159
I didn't realize there was more to the "Akiha making chocolates and testing it out on SHIKI" saga.

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Got caught up on Prisma Illya. Seems Miyu's brother has one last job.

>> No.38814362

>>38814061
He will revive her somehow.

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>> No.38814750

>>38814460
Rider's looking kinda weird...

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>> No.38814942

>>38814750
>rider

>> No.38815174

>>38813211
Shiki is a lucky bastard

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Happy Birthday, Sakura

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>> No.38815615

>>38813211
She's so good.
What's wrong with her hips though?

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>> No.38815819

>>38815615
she's thick now.

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God damn are these guys fast. Hope they don't burn out. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMyUsDVXMAI9k1W?format=jpg&name=large

>> No.38816080

>>38815892
at this pace, they're gonna finish this by the end of the year god damn

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>>38815231
Happy birthday!

>> No.38816223

>>38815892
I wish they finish before Mahoyo's translation, that would be funny.

>> No.38816535

>>38815892
Hollow Moon literally SHAKING right now

>> No.38816536

>>38815892
And HM trannies wanted people to ignore them lmao

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>>38816080
I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcasm or not. Such is the fate of the TM translations.

>> No.38816563

>>38816556
nah im being honest

>> No.38816580

I wonder if HM is still going to translate the Remake after they are done with Mahoyo (2025~) considering Tsukihimates are probably going to be done with it before the end of the year, stealing their precious e-peen.

>> No.38816640

TMfolks dont blame Hollow Moon. Blame Committee of Zero team it is their fault for as why HM is slow af

>> No.38816731

>>38816640
Both groups are full of retards who don't know japanese

>> No.38817771

>>38814942
I hardly knew her!

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Happy birthday Sakura!

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>>38817771
Heh...

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Happy Birthday Sakura!
I hope she has a great day with her girlfriend.

>> No.38818064

polygyny with rin and sakura

>> No.38818102

I like the art style for this fan game for the maids that is being worked on. https://twitter.com/TeamCalmato/status/1498300071691300866

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>>38814061
Hell yeah best girl is back.
Figurine when? Jetsakura design is sweet.

>> No.38818890

>>38816535
>>38816536
>>38816580
>>38816640
from what I've heard from a former member on the team, Hollow Moon is full of massive dicks (to the point where said ex-member legit said "they're having problems? good" when their TL regressed), so it's good to see them get shown up so hard

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>> No.38819168

I want fucking beat Noel to near death as I tell her that Akiha is far more beautiful than she'll ever be, after which I force her to watch me cum three times inside of that cute little tsundere before I deliver the final life ending blow.

>> No.38819382

>>38819168
I get turned on thinking about how Noel would enjoy killing me.

>> No.38819705

noel is based

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>> No.38820408

>>38815231
I love her so much.

>> No.38820510

>tfw i look like eco-arc

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>> No.38821835

>>38820064
>>38820978
>then he fucked Saber and Rin afterwards
I fucking kneel

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>> No.38823951

>>38822701
Accurate

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>> No.38823963

I have the same birthday as best girl. It must be fate.

>> No.38824134

>>38821835
He fucked Saber. The only thing he did with Rin was a kiss.

>> No.38824221

>>38824134
It's a shame they didn't go for a full-blown threesome

>> No.38824284

>>38824221
Well, it was one for Saber.

>> No.38824431

>>38824134
I was being facetious anon, as in "Shirou is such a fucking Chad" - he has sex with the heroines before not after each fight. And the "he fucked Rin" was about UBW, not Fate. As a Rinfag I do like to think that since Shirou is conscious when Rin says goodbye to Archer in the anime they did have hot steamy sex afterwards though.

>> No.38824447

>>38823963
As Ayako?

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>has sex
>wins
Why is he so cool?

>> No.38824471

>>38824456
He was written to specifically cater to underage chuunifags.

>> No.38824474

>>38824431
>Rin says goodbye to Archer in the anime they did have hot steamy sex afterwards though.
Wasn't that heavily implied in some production art?

>> No.38824480

>>38824456
>asks girls for their consent before having sex with them
Shirou is a beta male

>> No.38824507

Now that I think about it, Shirou is actually fucking retarded... and in the same time he is very cool. How is that?
Shiki is a chad without being retarded, so he has the edge in that.

>> No.38824513

>>38824474
Nevermind, that was for the epilogue if I'm not mistaken (that is way after the HGW).

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So now that the Mahoyo movie is confirmed in the making and there's a new wave of Tsukihime love ready to be exploited, we can be sure that we're never going to get a F/HA anime, right?
I always thought it was very unlikely, but I also felt the possibility was always there.

>> No.38824561

>>38824507
Shiki can be pretty retarded too. The difference is that Shiki isn't autistic while Shirou has crippling autism on top of his retardation.

>> No.38824587

>>38824542
Hollow Ataraxia (and Kagetsu Tohya too on that note, but that has even less of a chance now) wouldn't really work in animated format so I can see why it hasn't happened yet. There's a good chunk of SoL weaved with bits of worldbuilding and main plot buildup that you can't really drop without effectively gutting 3/4ths of the work, but that's not as easy of a sell as "autist summons king arthur who immediately starts shit with cu chulainn". I'm surprised Kagetsu didn't get a manga adaptation while HA has one though.

>> No.38824596

>>38824542
I guess. I don't know if it is possible to adapt the loop mechanic to an animated format. It would lead to removed stories, which would be a pity, as I liked all of them, even the Himuro The Love Detective story.

>> No.38824691

>>38824431
>And the "he fucked Rin" was about UBW, not Fate.
I'm an idiot. Sorry.

>> No.38824761

>>38824587
HA manga doesn't count though as it died way too early.

>> No.38824802

>>38824474
>>38824513
Frankly I found the timeline of when Shirou and Rin start having sex in the Realta Nua/anime version of events a bit confusing - I assumed that the reason the two didn't touch each other for a month after the events of the 5th HGW was because of how badly their first time went, so it's confusing in the RN version of events. Them going for a fuck when they get back home could possibly remedy that but eh. The events of the HA sex scene are in an even greater limbo too, which is a shame.

But yeah the Shirou in that artwork is a lot taller and buffer so it's in the epilogue period.

>>38824691
No biggie.

>> No.38824971

We need more black masters.
And Nasu, please stop making black servants. It's problematic.

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>> No.38825004

>>38824447
>Ayako
Who?

>> No.38825027

>>38824971
I know this is bait, but are there even any black servants other than nigga emiya?

>> No.38825062

>>38825027
Darius, Arjuna, Nitocris, Scheherazade, aśvatthāman, ...etc. There is enough.

>> No.38825279

>>38824971
I know this is a complete sincere post but I wonder if they'll ever add Yasuke, considering Nobunaga & friends are one of the few things keeping F/GO alive.

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>> No.38825518

>>38825500
How stinky do you think she is?

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>> No.38825837

>>38824542
Fate has already gotten enough shit as it is, I think leaving it at this is fine

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>> No.38827790

Why hasn't Jesus been a servant?

>> No.38828082

>>38827790
Anon, Jesus isn't some guy who just died and got resurrected, he isn't merely the Son of God, he is God the Son, one third of the Godhead, one personality of the greater homoousian whole, eternally begotten not made from God the Father. He is the Ancient of Days, who always was and merely climbed down from the heavens to the corrupted mortal realm in the incarnated form of a Nazarean shepherd whose nature was one of hypostatic union - fully divine, yet also fully human. To summon Jesus as a Servant would be to summon an omnipotent deity, the Creator of this World.

I doubt Nasu knows much about Christianity, but in a Socratic sense he is cognizant of his nonexistant grasp of theological issues and is thus wise to not offend the whole of Chalcedonian (but also the Miaphysite) Christianity by portraying the Word as a mere human.

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>>38828082
>I doubt Nasu knows much about Christianity
Yeah, probably

>> No.38828764

>>38828082
While he doesn't seem to know their history practically I do like his words on it with Caren's backstory and twisting it with a supernatural element. I also respect him for making that faction a bit nuanced and not making them generically evil like most works as characters like Ciel and other church members in Case Files have been written to be good people.

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>> No.38829136

>>38828764
What's interesting about Nasu is that somehow he actually gets a lot of things about Christianity... oddly correct. Kirei is very much so a Christian villain. The Western Christian cultural tradition is brimming mainly with stories of temptation and the struggle with man's innately evil nature, corrupted from the perfectly good state with complete free will unmoored from the influence of our most base instincts in Eden by our ancestral sin committed by Adam. The theme of man's will being corrupted by his sexual and violent urges is probably the most common one you can find up until secularization kicked in. Kirei's struggles with his distorted nature fit very neatly into this tradition. Not to mention how Angra Mainyu oddly parallels the story of Christ. Yet Nasu also gets the most basic shit wrong like having priests be married with children LMAO.

>> No.38829169

>>38829136
Orthodox priests can get married.

>> No.38829191

>>38829169
Not him, but the church in nasuworld is explicitly Catholic. Plus orthodox Christians had no real presence in Japan anyway so that would not make any sense to assume.

>> No.38829235

>>38829191
didnt nasu say that the great schism didnt happen to try and excuse him not knowing anything about Christianity.

>> No.38829247

>>38829235
Are you asking a question, or making a statement?

>> No.38829252

>>38829235
Did he? That would be hilarious kek.

>> No.38829322

>>38829136
the Kirei marrying thing can be excused as Kirei stepping away from the traditional church since he seemed disillusioned by everything before finding a woman to love. That's probably wrong as his dad does talk about his wife dying in F/Z like it's a normal thing for priests to do.

>> No.38829363

>>38829322
it's possible that the Holy Church is simply more relaxed on clergy being married than the Roman Catholic Church is

>> No.38829382

>>38829191
I can't remember if it was said in Case Files or something but the holy church includes all types of christianity.

>> No.38829390

>>38829363
yeah, I'll give him a break for not knowing most thing about the church due to Japan not having much exposure to it since Nasu does better in that department than most Japanese writers in the anime landscape.

>> No.38829401

>>38829382
Does it? I remember Tsuki R very explicitly saying catholic at least.

>> No.38829517

>>38829191
It's odd - don't Protestants outnumber Catholics in Japan by a tiny margin as well? The Christian Prime Ministers of Japan were also mainly Protestants as well. It's interesting how those early interactions with the Catholic clergy in the 16th and 17th century left such an impression that virtually all Japanese media dealing with Christianity has them be Catholics.

>>38829235
That's absolutely hilarious if true.

>>38829322
I suppose you can find excuses for Kirei himself but then his father is also a priest so...

>> No.38829567

Any updates on Mahoyo translation? I just want it to be out before the movie adaptation

>> No.38829569

>>38829567
>I just want it to be out before the movie adaptation
lmao

>> No.38829609

>>38829517
>don't Protestants outnumber Catholics in Japan by a tiny margin as well?
Yeah that's true. I suspect it's just one of those "rule of cool" things. Protestants are just one some pastor and his church most of the time. Catholics have a big complicated structure, hierarchy and much more history.

>> No.38829777

A thing I've noticed with Nasu (though I admittedly remember little from Tsukihime) is that despite how horny he makes his protagonists he is very averse to having his couples show physical affection - outside of sex scenes, that is. Rin is the only one who gets to kiss Shirou in a sex scene prelude and the best Sakura and Saber get is a hug. Oh I guess Sakura gets to hold hands with Shirou. Very odd approach. I think it says a lot that people still adore his romances despite that but it is weird.

>> No.38829782

>>38816535
>>38818890
quick run down on hollow moon?

>> No.38829859

>>38829777
>A thing I've noticed with Nasu (though I admittedly remember little from Tsukihime) is that despite how horny he makes his protagonists he is very averse to having his couples show physical affection - outside of sex scenes, that is. Rin is the only one who gets to kiss Shirou in a sex scene prelude and the best Sakura and Saber get is a hug. Oh I guess Sakura gets to hold hands with Shirou. Very odd approach. I think it says a lot that people still adore his romances despite that but it is weird.

What are Nasu's best and worst written romances?

>> No.38829864

>>38829777
Ciel and Shiki kiss 3 times in Tsuki R, but they don't have a single kiss CG whereas Arc does for their one pre-sex kiss. Shit's weird.

>> No.38829867

>>38829782
team who's doing the Mahoyo English TL
they're a bunch of dicks who called dibs on the Tsuki R TL right after the game came out, despite not being anywhere near done with Mahoyo, and seem to be making pretty much no progress on Mahoyo so they can jerk themselves off over being the only ones translating it

>> No.38829878

>>38829864
Maybe they’ll add it in the full version

>> No.38829896

>>38829782
Faggots who've been re-translating Mahoyo from FR to EN for like 5 years now.
They don't have a single guy who knows japanese in their team but they still called dibs on the Tsukihime Remake TL as soon as it came out.

>> No.38829899

>>38829859
I wouldn't say Shiki Arc is the worst but is weird. Imagining falling in love with the guy who copped you into 17 pieces. There's also that scene where Shiki damn near rapes Arc, and actually does if you're going for a specific bad ending.

>> No.38829930

https://tsukihimates.com/progress/
Hmm.

>> No.38829962

Why was Fate so popular compared to Nasu's other works?

Reminder that Miyazaki from From Software loves FSN.

>フロム・ソフトウェア
宮崎英高
独り暮らしをはじめ、コンテンツ摂取のタガが外れた私にとって、20代は青春でした。
そして、その大きな一角はある種のPCゲームであり、最後の大物が「Fate/stay night」でした。
大好物の暗い伝奇の匂いと、「夜に飛び込んでいく」遠坂嬢に心惹かれてから、
会社を休むほどのひどい風邪を、長々と患ってしまったことを覚えています。
あれから15年、今もなおFateは魅力的であり続け、
いちゲーム制作者となった私は、非常な驚嘆を禁じ得ませんが、
同時に、とても嬉しくも思っています。
Fate/stay night、15周年おめでとうございます。そして、ありがとうございます。
貴方に触れる度、私はいつでも、あの頃の気持ちになれます。
https://fate-15th.com/message/

>> No.38829971

>>38829899
Women love rape so it makes sense.

>> No.38829995

>>38829962
>Chuuni MC
>Ancient Heroes from the Past and Different Mythologies fighting each other (this draws in most normalfags)
>Baeber
>Awesome girl Rin
>Sakura's dark past
>BEST GIRL Kotomine
>Guest Artists and writers who contribute and make things get even more over the top

>> No.38830119

>>38829859
I like Rin and Akiha best, despite how wildly different they are. I really ought to replay Tsuki desu to be able to say anything concrete on those but I don't think any of them are bad and worst implies some of them are - I prefer "least good" and that one is definitely Sakura's. That said, people who say the movies improved the romance with Sakura are retarded niggers who probably didn't get some of the depth behind the romance.

The issue I have with the movies is they remove a lot of the issues I have with the romance, but they also remove the more interesting stuff. I guess I'll start with the bad stuff and say that Sakura in the VN could get very melodramatic and cringeworthy - the movies by shortening her scenes end up making her more tolerable and the voice actress shows a whole lot more restraint as well. A big issue with the VN is that the romantic progression is bad. Sakura still feels like a crush becoming something more rather than the lover of a lifetime by the time the truth gets revealed and it makes the Rain scene and Shirou's decision to forsake his ideals hard to swallow (a shame since I find his arc compelling otherwise). Just contrast the build-up to the big romantic moments with Saber and Rin - Shirou is really obsessed with those two whereas his feelings for Sakura feel so much more pedestrian. This is compounded by Shirou's interactions with Rin in HF where he essentially ignores Sakura and forgets about her to hang out Rin... two days before he makes his big decision to sacrifice untold innocents for Sakura. Yeah, great job of convincing me there Nasu. Sudou treated Rin like garbage here and removed so many of her scenes so that improves the romance a tad but it's really not a worthy trade off since it lessens the conflict between the sisters and I find that storyline VASTLY more compelling than the relatively bland romance of Shirou and Sakura. A similar issue arises with Shirou's denseness toward Sakura's dark side - on Day 11 when he's helping her go to sleep she starts mouthing off about her insecurities about her big sis yet Shirou is too busy thinking about how he wants to fuck her. He really has a shallow understanding of his lover of a lifetime and the movies removing that helps it feel more compelling but again undermines the Tohsaka sisters conflict.

On the other hand... I think that a common criticism of the romance and Sakura, namely that she is unimportant in the first two routes, is a bad one. The point is that Shirou is desperately trying to ignore Sakura and how important she is to him, as well his attraction to her. The minor role she plays in the first two routes perfectly sets this up. The early stages of the romance, ESPECIALLY Day 6, is all about Shirou getting to interact with Sakura more and coming to appreciate that she was always there for him. He slowly comes to realize that he, her and Taiga are kinda like a family. It's why I think the common criticism of the important moments between Shirou and Sakura being told in flashbacks in the midst of HF being bad is stupid - I think it's great since it's showing us Shirou's subjective view of his and Sakura's relationship. He is through denying her importance and retroactively assigning meaning to stuff he had up to that point dismissed. I really felt like I was seeing the world through the eyes of the character. The movies ruin this by showing us the objective reality and having the stuff with Sakura showing up to help, the key, before the events of the story and removing nearly the whole of Day 6. For better or worse this structure made the romance unique and the movie made it more generic. 1/

>> No.38830281

>>38829859
>>38830119
Another thing is that one of the more interesting aspects of the romance is that Sakura admires Shirou's perseverence and as such feels guilty about the fact that she is forcing Shirou, the boy who never quits, to abandon that which makes him unique and special to her for her own sake. I think what truly sells the knife scene for me is when Sakura acknowledges how the situation is really causing Shirou incredible inner turmoil and suffering and resolves to deal with Zouken herself to spare him of the pain. That's just gone in the movies, as is any mention of her admiration for Shirou's stubborness and how it gave her the strength to continue living. Instead in the HF movies Sakura says she admired Shirou for... quitting during the high jump............ what?

I don't like how the sex scenes are handled either. In the VN, there was something tragic about how Sakura feels this insecurity about Rin and how close she and Shirou are that she overcomes with the third sex scene, where for the first time after two previous time where Sakura came to him that HE expresses interest in having sex with her and it raises her self-esteem and gives her the will to continue on living when Gilgamesh attacks her. She even says that she can't die there because Senpai finally showed her how much he truly loves her and that if she dies Rin will get to be with him instead... and then the next day her self-esteem collapses again when she hears to what basically amounts to Rin's confession to Shirou. The movies change so much of this around it's retarded but they essentially reverse the order where Sakura regains her self-esteem after hearing Rin's recollection of the high jump by having sex with Shirou instead - which is less an issues with how the romance is handled but more the relationship between the sisters, because Sakura really has no fucking reason to despise Rin as hard as she does in the third flick and the entire scene between them just falls really flat. But overall the sex scenes were used to enhance the story better in the VN.

Frankly I don't understand why certain Sakurafags wank these movies so much. They don't really improve upon the romance. They fix some superficial aspects but blunt and remove so much of the depth - depth those Sakurafags are quick to point out as well! - that their appreciation of them is just baffling. In the end it's just because they introduced Sakura to normies and made her somewhat more popular... and also because they shit on the other characters (they REALLY resent Rin, Illya and Kirei for taking up space in "Sakura's route"). It's still pathetic though.

Oh and they count out Shirou gaining the strength to survive against Kirei after remembering Sakura. Fuck. 2/2

>> No.38830566

>>38829930
I guess Arc route will be finished in a couple of months. Let's hope it will be good quality as well.

>> No.38830602

if shirou can have sex, why can't I ?!

>> No.38830635

>>38830602
You're not cool enough. Neither am I.

>> No.38830640

>>38829899
I don't see what is weird about it. She is immortal and took interest in him because he was able to that. The rape is Nasu and his fetishes, you shouldn't think about it too hard, and it isn't that bad given the context, some might call it even necessary actually.
Ironically, I think it is one of Nasu's most normal relations outside these two points.

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>> No.38830701

>>38830602
Because you haven't met cool girls as the ones that Shirou has met yet. I am the same as you.

>> No.38830735

>>38829962
why do you always make these questions?

>> No.38830755

>>38830281
>Oh and they count out Shirou gaining the strength to survive against Kirei after remembering Sakura. Fuck. 2/2
what the HF movies did to the pure kino that was the final showdown between Kotomine and Shirou in the VN was fucking criminal
"sakura can't smile if you exist" is such a cheesy line but in context it's so fucking good

>> No.38830759

>it's a kireifag complaining about HF episode

>> No.38830777

>>38830759
Kirei gets most of his screentime from HF, why would any Kireifag complain about it? Unless you mean the movies, then simply because they are trash.

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>>38829567
They actually reverted their progress in the most recent update. January update above, Feb. below.
Pretty new website though lmao

>> No.38831361

>>38831298
Probably just a bug in their new website. There is no way all the editing and jp checking getting completely erased.

>> No.38831412

>>38831361
Quoting from their blog post here: https://www.hollow-moon.org/2022/02/28/finalization.html
The relevant portion is
>The output of our original workflow, namely FR-EN translation TLC Editing, was simply not satisfactory, nor something we believe the game—or the community—deserves. The key issues were manyfold, such as mistranslations in the original French script, lack of consistent quality in the writing produced by the multitude of FR-EN translators, and then lack of consistency in how much the previous issues were addressed across the TLC and Editing passes. These issues are inherent to double translation, especially when there are so many members in play.
>Since we had the proper staff to address these issues, and we felt we would be doing everyone a disservice if we didn’t, we decided on the “final pass” over a year ago. This pass would be done by a single person—our lead JP translator—over the entire game, with the goal to, if necessary, rewrite every single line to fix any of the issues that arose through our previous workflow. Then our lead editor, as well as the rest of the assistant editors, would pass overthatnew script for quality assurance.
>In practice, the lead translator’s job in the “final pass” is a retranslation of the game from Japanese. While the results of our previous workflow are largely readable, we do not believe they were of acceptable quality regarding prose, character voices, and handling of idioms and such. It often read too literal and stilted, however the editors were not equipped with much of a point of reference to aim for, which is why retranslation is largely necessary.
>While we do wish for the “final pass” to not take any longer than it has to, these huge rewrites and retranslations over our existing script are often necessary to achieve the level of quality we are aiming for. Even still, we want to thank everyone involved in the original process for their hard work, and they will be credited in the project.

TL;DR the JP -> FR -> EN that everyone predicted would be bad was indeed bad and they had a bunch of editors so the tone was inconsistent, so they seemed to have tossed out a lot of the previous editing in favor of a new one that will (presumably) be more accurate.

>> No.38831522

>>38831361
Nope, they wrote a blog explaining it's their way to show the state of retranslating the vn. Progress on the old website is basically nothing

>> No.38831571

Bring Takajun back

>> No.38831644

>>38800939
Underrated.

>> No.38832025

anon, why aren't you learning french to read mahoyo?

>> No.38832172

>>38829777
in the far side routes it would just seem out of place

>> No.38832377

>>38830759
That's not what 90% of the posts is about, Sakurafriend.

>> No.38833023

>>38831412
>the JP -> FR -> EN that everyone predicted would be bad was indeed bad
They should have just sticked with it to the end honestly. Changing plans midway is stupid. But that's what to be expected from an incompetent team.

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>> No.38837724

>>38832025
Because no Ciel gf

>> No.38837926

>>38836965
Why did fgo give Caren bigger tits?

>> No.38838035

>>38837926
To appeal to their audience.

>> No.38838044

>>38837724
bro...

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>>38837926
hoe the fuck is this big, nigga?

>> No.38838262

hoe caren

>> No.38838305

I wish I looled like Shiki

>> No.38838314

>>38838305
>173cm
I don't want to be a manlet though.

>> No.38838327

>>38829930
>whole Arcueid route already translated
Nice. I wonder how much time TLC will take.

>> No.38838335

>>38836965
slut

>> No.38838629

>>38838335
the only good slut in Fate.

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>>38838629

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>>38838804
not you

>> No.38838881

I want to go out for ice cream wirh Angra.

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Happy Birthday to Hirokazu Koyama!

>> No.38839268

>>38838629
no, priestesses are sipposed to be pure

>> No.38839291

>>38839268
>priestess

>> No.38839770

please be nice to caren

>> No.38839830
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>>38839770
I always will.

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>>38832025
I already wasted enough time learning one shitty language not even going to start with another one

>> No.38841799

https://twitter.com/azisai31/status/1499420067615834119

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>> No.38841864

>>38828082
Well Buddha is a servant

>> No.38842089

DDD has made available digitally on Amazon https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B09SZ4ZQKN/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_J0ZKBH1KVFRD4KXNPEVP

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>No Hidden Gil route where Shirou spares Gilgamesh after fighting him, and since Kirei is gone, Gil decides to live with Shirou

>> No.38843200

>tfw i look like vlov

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>>38843189
and then they fuck

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>> No.38843256

>>38843189
fsn remake with fem!Gil route when

>> No.38843303

>>38843228
only when he turns into gil-kun

>> No.38843374

>>38843303
oneeshota route with fem Shirou and gil-kun when

>> No.38843406

>>38843374
the true fate prototype.

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How accurate is this?

>> No.38844684

>>38844658
Akiha masturbates frequently considering she writers fanfiction of her and Shiki. Illya masturbates a little due to her more sadistic side and her maturity. Bazett has had sex before so move her up. Rin maybe masturbates once in a while.

>> No.38845964

>>38844684
I can see Akiha masturbating constantly. Sakura definitely often and Rin sometimes considering she took a notice of shampoos being everywhere when she came back home in FHA.

>> No.38846010

>>38844658
Saber says she knows how to please a man so I'm sure she knows about carnal pleasures but she probably was too autistic to consider the idea of masturbating, at least during F/SN.

>> No.38846337

>>38844658
rin definitely should be in "... a little"
bazett too
and illya too

>> No.38846391

>>38844658
Some are debatable, but honestly it's pretty accurate overall. Good job.

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>> No.38846848

>>38846785
I like this artist.
He should draw them naked tho.

>> No.38847310

there used to be a couple of youtube playlists with unreleased UBW tracks but it seems like they're all gone/accounts are deleted, anyone know what i'm talking about/where to find them? they had an alternate version of emiya that i really liked

>> No.38847845

>>38844658
Imagine being a guy and having a girl masturbate more often than you. If you're not religious, how low does your T have to be? Shirou should probably be higher.

>>38847310
A lot of channels that shared UBW music got restricted or copyright striked recently. That or region locked. I miss being able to listen to Ocean of Memories while looking at the pic of Rin and Shirou during the mana transfer scene. I legitimately don't know where to find the unreleased tracks though.

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>> No.38850292 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.38850306

Reminder that Shiki went out of her way to save Mikiya in the latest case files volume.

>> No.38850353

>>38850306
platonically

>> No.38850382

>>38850306
The whole story happened because a guy saw just how much of a perfect couple they are.

>> No.38850452

>>38850292
based

>> No.38850576

How many times are you going to post that? How bored of a person are you to keep posting the same shit?

>> No.38850654

>>38850576
>JUST WAIFU PICS AND NOTHING MORE!

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>>38850654
Husbando pics are welcome too.

>> No.38850698

>>38850654
no? Post questions or other shit, stop posting the same tired shit.

>> No.38850729

>>38850698
so we should stop posting smug redman?

>> No.38850750

>>38806239
>nail polish
degenerate

>> No.38850751
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Which male TM character would you guys fuck if you were girls?

>> No.38850760

>>38850751
shinji

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>>38850729
nah, you can post him.

>> No.38850775

>>38850765
no it's tired shit

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>VNs
Good
>FGO
Bad

>> No.38850828

>>38850809
fgo is a vn with gameplay

>> No.38850841

>>38850809
based

>> No.38850852

>>38850828
Nobody in Japan would consider FGO a novel game.

>> No.38850867

>>38850852
It's on EGS

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>>38850867
hurr durr

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>>38850809
This, but I also play F/GO

>> No.38850894

>>38850886
you didn't have to imply I'm retarded, that's kinda rude

>> No.38850975

>>38850867
So it Touhou.

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>> No.38853051

>>38849141
My wife and la creatura

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>> No.38853166

>>38853109
>>38853115
What's this from?

>> No.38853177

>>38853166
https://exhentai.org/g/2158009/f5f2b2e2a3/

>> No.38853470

>>38850306
>>38850382
Are Shiki and Mikiya the best couple written by nasu?

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>> No.38853930

>>38843303
Didn't Shirou call Gil-kun breathtaking or something like that?

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I want to protect his smile.

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>>38853930
He called him "a gorgeous-looking boy, with hair that looked like it was made of gold ingots and eyes red as rubies."

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>> No.38855113

>>38855013
delete this

>> No.38855273

>>38846010
I wouldn't be surprised if Saber forgot she has a vagina.

>> No.38855388

what does Crimson Moon look like

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>> No.38855527

>>38855489
he's just like me

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>>38855388
this or TA arc

>> No.38855838

>>38855388
Mecha

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>>38855388

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>>38857044

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>> No.38858239

So where does Type Lumina fit in?
I've heard that it is a prequel to the new Tsukihime that takes place ten days before the events of the visual novel but i've also heard that it is set in an alternate timeline to the events of Tsukihime so that its story is essentially a separate path in a sense.

>> No.38858272

>>38858239
It's not canon. Not like it matters really, there's barely any story in it.

>> No.38858293

Is there a gallery of all the Fate/Stay Night stands somewhere online? I might come off as internet illiterate, but all I was able to find were CG galleries.

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>> No.38859277

>>38858272
Really, not even the visual novel esque side mode Undernight in-birth/Guity Gear have?
Dang that sucks, thanks for the answer in anycase

>> No.38859337

>>38858293
What does stands mean?

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>>38858293
You mean the sprites?
I don't think they're online, but you can download all the assets from F/SN in HD from beastlair I think.

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Unlimited Kohaku Works

>> No.38859772

>>38859277
It’s more like the story mode of Act Cadenza of having the arcade story for each character set in different times or different scenarios rather than following the current timeline in TsukiR. It’s more like a what if story like if Mario hired Aoko to eliminate the vampires in the town or if DA Noel killed everyone in the cast and took over the town in a apocalyptic event. It’s worth playing most of them to hear the VA work and character interactions. It’s not good, but it’s fine.

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>> No.38860142

>>38858293
>Fate/Stay Night stands
Would Shirou's stand be Archer?

>> No.38860813

>>38860142
It would be something related to swords.

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Do we know how well this did in japan? They charged $60 for it which is just dumb.

>> No.38863127

>>38862316
probably not well at all. Haven't seen many people talking about this game.

>> No.38863249

>>38862316
No idea. But it had a very poor reception in the West. No Metascore, only one user review on Metacritic; no one reviewed it on IGDB, not a single rating on IMDb.
https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/everyday-todays-menu-for-the-emiya-family
https://www.igdb.com/games/everyday-todays-menu-for-emiya-family
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14773000/
However, it got the Lancer DLC, so I guess it should have been somewhat popular in Japan.

>> No.38863271

>>38863249
it would be funny if the low sales in this game is all TM needs to never localize their games. What a stupid company in localizing these niche games while not bringing in more popular games that people would actually buy like TsukiR

>> No.38863282

https://twitter.com/fiorim_0856/status/1500009930899673090?s=20&t=R0EXxxCA5wP7ya5LWF0EuA

>> No.38863290

>>38863282
cute

>> No.38863291

>>38862316
https://teitengame.com/2021_01.html
Doesn't even appear on this list which grabs its numbers from famitsu. Melty is there at 117.

>> No.38863312

>>38863282
Cool.

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Quinary here, what's the difference between HA Caren and Tiger Colosseum Caren?

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>> No.38864280

F to Tamano https://twitter.com/karoshimyriad/status/1500239075009204225?s=21

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>>38864280
Is she free now?

>> No.38864387

>>38864324
She’s free to be summoned by one lucky Master

>> No.38864482

>>38864387
I'll give it a shot, when's the next Holy Grail War?

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