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As I assume to be the case with most denizens of this board, I've had the grand fantasy of moving to Japan for about 10 years now. Of course, the older I've gotten and the more I've learned, read and seen about live in Japan, I realize it's not all sunshine. Not in the slightest. But still, I can't shake the desire to want to move there.

In late 2019 I spent a month backpacking around southern Honshu, from Tokyo to Hiroshima and pretty much everything in between. I've seen the anthill-like masses of salarymen at Shinjuku station, and I've seen the insane level of performance that is required of even students working simple retail jobs at 7/11 or Familymart.

Still, despite all that, I feel like I have to go and spend more time there. Perhaps I'm just brainwashed, and I do feel very much like a walking meme when I look deep inside of myself and realize that deep down I just have that unshaking ultra-weeb desire of finding a Japanese wife and starting a family there. I KNOW it's all a rose-coloured fantasy, but I feel like I'd just be giving up on my dreams if I don't chase it, no matter how shallow of a fantasy it really is.

I feel like a possible escape from the harsh working conditions, would be working in a hostel. The ones I visited all had a very chill and laid-back vibe, and I get the feeling that the pressure at those jobs is way less than the pressure at other regular jobs. Perhaps they cater to laid-back backpackers to begin with, and not to ever-busy salarymen with tight and packed schedules.

Part of me feels like I'll just burn out after a couple months there and return back home. But even if that happens, wouldn't the experience alone be worth it? And who knows, maybe I'll actually end up finding my place there. Who can know?

Simple thoughts. Peace to you all.

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>>38684895
I live here, have a Japanese wife of nearly 10 years, and have kids. AMA.

If I were you, I'd get a job over here. Hostel might be okay, but I bet the pay is trash. At the very least you should be able to get a tap dancing monkey English teacher job. Then you can live over here for a year or two, by that point you'll have gotten the infatuation out of your system and you can decide whether or not to live here. As a bonus, you'll experience what it's like to live in Japan while poor. It can be pretty shitty. This should help you make a good decision.

I'd avoid getting married and having a family over here. Japanese women change completely after getting married and then even more so after kids. My wife has a different outlook so it works for us, but most women here are more parochial in their thinking.

As far as finding your place, you probably won't. You Will Never Be Japanese, as they say. It's hard to make friends here, much harder than in your home country. If you can get over that, you might make it. I've leaned into being a gaijin. I don't speak keigo, I don't do all the weird little cultural rituals. But I'm good natured and friendly. Japanese people seem to like that because I fit their mental model of "gaijin" so they know how to treat me. It might sound patronizing, but... You Will Never Be Japanese. That's just how it is.

Anyway let me know if you have other questions.

>> No.38685147

Why would anyone want to live in Japan past the 1990s?

>> No.38690415

>>38684966

You born in Japan?

>> No.38690766

>>>/int/

>> No.38691028

>>38684895
This is something that I just posted on /a/. They told me to repost it here, and I thought it was worth a shot.

I live in Japan, and it fucking sucks. I made a thread about this a lonnnng time ago, but this bears repeating.

1. Anime and manga are more expensive in Japan. The prices are ridiculous, and it's hard for me to justify buying anime even though I feel it's important for fans to make an effort to support the industry.

2. If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.

3. Office culture in Japan is...intense. You are expected to show up at social gatherings even if you do not want to. And at these social gatherings people have the EXACT SAME CONVERSATIONS AGAIN AND AGAIN. I've had like 50 conversations on the power of beer to refresh you after a day's work. You have to say "good morning" every day in a very specific way, and if you don't then someone will approach you and tell you that's not how things are done at company XYZ.

4. The people treat gaijin like shit. Even the ones who try to be nice come across as condescending and rude by American standards. There are also a large number of Japanese men who think gaijin women are sluts and that they can get you to open your legs at the drop of a hat. Fuckers.

I wish all the Japanohiles could actually visit GLORIOUS NIPPON. They'd change their tune.

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>>38690415
Nope, I'm a white American.

>>38691028
1. This is true, anime, manga, and games are more expensive than in the U.S., and salaries here are lower. I still collect 2hu stuff over here but it's tough because it's expensive and houses are small so it's hard to display everything. I spend several hundred dollars at each Reitaisai but I make a lot more than the average Japanese.

2. No personal experience here but sounds plausible.

3. This is also true. The vast majority of Japanese people are mindless soulless NPC retards... just like people in every country. The rituals and formalities are a way to exert power over other people. As I mentioned before, I just lean into being foreign which lets me skip all of this stuff. I refuse to work at Japanese companies, so it doesn't hurt my career.

4. This person doesn't get it. You Will Never Be Japanese. You will always be treated as an exotic zoo animal or a sinister alien. And Japanese women thinking gaijin women are sluts, hmmm... why is that? Why do all non-Western cultures seem to think that? Maybe it's because they talk, dress, and act like sluts. So western women made their bed on this one, no sympathy from me here. And FWIW, Western women who dress modestly and are polite don't seem to have as many problems. Really makes you think.

>> No.38694661

When the weeaboo finds out that Japan isn't the fantasy anime heaven that they always thought it would be from watching the ebin animays

>> No.38694746

>>38694661
ebic poast /b/ruther

>> No.38694923

>>38684895
Used to have same dreams. Now I dream about having my own shed in the woods of Europe or America tbqh

>> No.38695464 [DELETED] 

It's a different country with a different culture.
Why are Americans so fucking unlikable? Do you want every country on the planet to be the hate and corruption-filled shithole you come from?

>> No.38695530

>>38691028
>they didn't roll-out the red carpet from me so waaaaahhhhh
most people who "love" japan only care about anime and video games. that's it. not the history, culture, food or anything else. so they go, get a huge culture shock, then throw a tantrum because it's not what they ignorantly expected.

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>>38684895
>>38691028
Japan is amazing. These are nitpicks and over exaggerated
Stop larping

>> No.38695578

I used to fantasize about living in Japan and then I realized I was just running away into escapist fantasy. In reality, wherever you're from is probably not that bad and you also have a greater chance at building a fulfilling life from where you are. However if you want to step out of your comfort zone and you feel like you need to live in Japan then please do try your hardest at making it reality. It will be difficult and you will have to ask yourself the question of whether it is worth it.

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>>38684895
I can relate a lot anon, I feel too that I have to try it until I am in my twenties or I will regret it forever.
Having covid in my way the last two years just intensified this feelings which means that they are real.
Last time I was able to go there it was 2016 for a month, I really miss it a lot.
>work
Luckily for me my job is independent from other people and I can do it from whenever I want, so I could in theory go there and keep the same lifestyle.
>>38684966
>You Will Never Be Japanese
Yeah it's a good mindset, I don't even want to be Japanese honestly.
>>38691028
I don't see any problem here, you can't go to a place and pretend it to be like you want, it's a bad mindset.
>Anime and manga are more expensive in Japan
Used manga are extremely cheap, bluerays on the other hand...

>> No.38695930

>>38694614

Do you have Anime, Touhou stuff?

>> No.38696192

>>38691028
>2. If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.
Good.

>> No.38696881

>>38684895
It's kind of a meme and kind of not. The biggest problem with living in Japan is that "Things are they way they are because that's the way things are". So there's a massive cultural inertia that no one is interested in fighting even though if it's kind of shit. I'm American and I spent 3 years in Japan, 2 of them in Waseda University and 1 year working. In Uni it was weird because everything felt hyper clique-y like there were social groups and you weren't really allowed to deviate from them unless there was a reason, also there's the very Japanese habit of just yelling at you till you do what they say. Like one time I talked to a girl for a bit, just idle chat and later 4 guys cornered me and started yelling at me that I should leave her alone. I'm like "Who are you?" but they wouldn't say just kept shouting, so I picked one of them up, moved him to the side and just walked away while they shouted at me to come back. It was bizarre because I'm used to the American "Don't talk to my girl" followed by punch to the gut vs Japan's "Don't talk to that girl I'm not dating, or related to or even friendly with". It was just really weird.

Job wise, there's tons of slacker jobs if you're not working in customer service. My part time was working in a print shop 4 days a week, while there was tons of hustle days there was also a lot of days where I'm just shredding bad prints while watching anime on my phone. After I graduated I got another job at a bigger print shop as an engineer, that was fun. I also hate to say it, while it's not great the English teacher route is a great way to stay in the country with free rent while you're job hunting. Buys you a year or two and you can keep searching.

Dating wise, the biggest issue is that weebs want to date a Japanese Girl NOT a Japanese Girl that's good for them. So they ignore all the massive red flags and forgive every act of selfishness because "Muh pure Nihon Waifu is just being cute" then 5 years later "Oh no my wife divorced me and she's taking the kids since I'm not a JP citizen I have no rights, what do I do?" and I'm like Mother fucker we all knew your wife was a bitch 5 years ago why are you just finding out now? Also why the hell did you not start the process of citizenship once your wife was pregnant? When you're dating everyone lies, you try to be the best version of yourself and fudge the gap with little lies but if you're not aware that someone is lieing at all you're just going to have heartbreak.

Also one more thing: When you go to Japan, you're not Japanese and never will be. Period. Full Stop. So you'll encounter the most refreshing form of racism you've ever seen where it's never aimed directly at you but it's aimed around you. Also, random students may come up and speak random languages at you if you look approachable while hanging out doing nerd stuff. I learned more French in Japan than I ever did in school.

>> No.38697256

>>38691028
1. Yes it totally is, but there's so much it makes you want to puke. When I was in Japan it caused me to go overboard for like 2 months then I couldn't stand the sight of anime then I readjusted myself. It was a long process but my room was no longer filled with just random anime junk. Manga is dirt cheap though. Also there' s used stores and if you have patience you can just wait since space is at a premium everything will go on a massive dirt cheap sale eventually. Just a matter if it happens this year or 2 years down the road.

2. I can't speak to that but it's completely plausible.

3. OH FUCK THIS SO MUCH, when I had my first job it was bearable because it was just old men hanging out,eating at random dives and completely optional. At my 2nd job, it was this weird Michael Scott inspired suck up party where everyone had to attend and I have to explain for the 88th time that I don't drink because of life circumstances. Then the next day I get told that I'm ruining group harmony or some other bullshit and I say " I don't wanna go" to which they respond "But everyone goes" and I'm stuck in this endless loop of bullshit.

4. Yea, I wouldn't say like shit but you're an outsider and they don't hesitate to remind you of that. So you can speak fluent Japanese, spend years in Tokyo and someone will walk up and talk to you like you're a pre-schooler. Also if you're not with Japanese people, people will walk up to you, ask what you're doing and where you're going constantly. If you're a dude and you skin is any color other than lily white (I'm greek and tan pretty easily) you're a serial rapist. If people in Japan had sex at the rate they imagine people have sex at they definitely wouldn't have a birth rate problem.

>> No.38697277

>>38697256
*Also if you're not with Japanese people and just hanging around

sorry I should have added that, if you're headed somewhere they'll mind their own business no problem but if you're waiting for someone you get a lot of questions.

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>>38691028
One of the better pastas

>> No.38697421

>>38696881
dois-tu me provoquer

>> No.38697681

>>38697421
Avec la vérité ? Oui

>> No.38698898

>>38691028
>If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.
Good. It's not that big of a deal and i am tired of people pretending it's end of the world.

>> No.38698910

>>38698898
Imagine the rolls reversed and a Japanese woman starts stroking your cock on the subway

>> No.38699022

I have money and don't need a job. How do I move to Japan?

>> No.38699039

>>38699022
best way rowboat and zoot suit arrive at beach get citizenship drink a ramune good luck

>> No.38699086

>>38691028
I can relate to no.3 so much. I don't live in Japan, but I do work for a Japanese company with Japanese people. I've mostly been able to just be myself, but I recently transferred to a team with more "Japanese relations" so to speak.

We have a chatroom on MS Teams and 90% of the content is literally just people saying Good Morning day in and out. I think it's absolutely bananas, and I've been trying to shake things up by wishing my mornings through the power of images and memes, but it doesn't seem to be catching on.

>> No.38699214

>>38691028
>gets gropped 7 times
>walks with men that would potentially rape you
>do nothing about it
Grow some teeth hoe. Walk with those "I am not affraid of reporting you to the police" badges. Speak your mind out about this bs, etc.

>> No.38699441

Finally a land where sluts get what they deserve.

>> No.38699444

>>38691028
>4. The people treat gaijin like shit. Even the ones who try to be nice come across as condescending and rude by American standards. There are also a large number of Japanese men who think gaijin women are sluts and that they can get you to open your legs at the drop of a hat. Fuckers.
based

>> No.38699481

>>38691028
>>38694614
Don't give a fuck about blurays but what the fuck are you on about manga? Manga in English is so much more expensive than just buying brand new raws, and it's dirt cheap used. Not to mention how much more variety and cheaper merch is. I was a buyfag who lived in Japan and never been happier with the prices.

>> No.38699512

>>38691028
I hate white women so much holy shit.

>> No.38699544

>>38684895
It's pretty fun if you're decent enough in the language, don't really care about assimilating (I have no friends here, why would I care about having friends there?), don't have to work at a Japanese company and are into anime/manga/doujin/etc.

I got a scholarship to just study Japanese for a year there and it was the time of my life

>> No.38700029

personally its fun and i love it
just do what you want anon no one else is gonna live your life but you so when it boils down to it no one else's opinion matters

>> No.38700050

>>38691028
>Anime and manga are more expensive in Japan. The prices are ridiculous, and it's hard for me to justify buying anime even though I feel it's important for fans to make an effort to support the industry.
many great manga and LN titles are literally the equivalent of one dollar at bookoff and their condition is practically brand new

>> No.38700079

>>38691028
The amount of people responding to this like it's not pasta kind of depresses me.

>> No.38700094

>>38700079
Even if it's pasta there are many people saying similar things.

>> No.38700263

>>38691028
>If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.
just be ugly dummy

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>>38684895
>Mfw too autistic to visit Japan and have my dreams crushed

>> No.38700408

>>38700370
LOL!

>> No.38700478

If anyone actually does live in Japan, is it true that they only care about appearances and if I walk around with a suit and sunglasses, they won't fuck with me and will do whatever I tell them to?

>> No.38700707

>>38694614
>Japanese women thinking gaijin women are sluts
What about gaijin man? Also, what the average japanese man think about gaijin man?

>> No.38701297

>>38700478
Replace sunglasses with mask, then yes.

>> No.38701438

>>38700079
I always post it to get some laughs,and end up feeling the same.

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>>38695930
Yes

>>38699481
New can be a little expensive but used is incredibly cheap. I really only buy 2hu doujin these days and I only buy new.

>>38700707
>What about gaijin man?
There are some people who dislike single foreign men because they think they're here to bang innocent young Japanese nadeshiko (which is partly justified).

>Also, what the average japanese man think about gaijin man?
Mostly, they don't, as far as I can tell.

>>38700478
This is my experience, more or less. I always dress nice here for just this reason, I never wear sneakers or graphic tees unless I'm going to the nearby Lawson or something. Also helps that I'm usually out and about with my wife and/or kids, so they (unreasonably) assume that I'm not a thief, rapist, or murderer. I get treated like a Japanese person when I'm out with my kids.

>>38698910
JAV code?

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just another day

>> No.38704123

I always wondered, is it possible to get in otaku circles if you are a gaijn? (and have skills and knowledge ofc)
>>38698910
Ahhh those times when the metro is so packed and if you position yourself well you can have a cute salarywomen pressed on your chest or on your back the whole time, ahh her initial visible embarassment, her soft small tits pressed on you...
>>38699086
Why do you care? Normalfags are gonna normalfag, I would write a bot to post for me and never think about it again.
>>38699214
Why would she? She can masturbate at home about it and feel desired and then also complain online an get attention. Win win for her.
>>38699481
True, buyfag material is much more cheap there.

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>>38701570
>I always dress nice here
I noticed this too and well I like to dress nice in general, but what do you think about beard instead?
I heard conflicting opinions about it and I can't match my experience to a conclusion honestly.
Do they think bad of you, or do you think your cool and wild but only cause you're a gaijin and therefore allowed to have a beard, is it just different from person to person.
I keep have a 1-2 days short beard, not messy, and it confuses me.

>> No.38705560

I'm trying to work at Japan through my country's ministry of foreign affairs. Having to deal with latin american work culture while enjoying japanese quality of life sounds like the best of both worlds.

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Can I find an 田舎美人 like Sonozaki Mion from the Higurashi series if I move to a desolate wasteland somewhere in Tohoku or Shikoku?

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>white bitter expats try to gatekeep the country by saying how "Zee nuh fobic" the country is
>It's just a lot of white people's first experiences being the minority and them dealing with minor inconveniences
>I get treated better in Japan than US and more safe too
Never listen to the memes

>> No.38705690 [DELETED] 

>>38705642
nigger.

>> No.38706444

>>38705690
Yes, and?

>> No.38706467

>>38695886
>to try it until I am in my twenties or I will regret it forever.
get out underage

>> No.38706535

>>38706467
How do you even read that and think I am underage?
I'm obviously in my late twenties from how I wrote that phrase.

>> No.38706615

>>38706535
>until I am in my twenties
Rather than throughout my 20s or during my 20s

>> No.38706618

Apparently it's great if you go as a tourist but utter shit if you live and work over there.

>> No.38706705

>>38701570
fuck off with your wojaks

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>>38706615
I read "until I am in my twenties" as "as long as I am in my twenties".
If it was "until I get in my twenties" it would sound like I was <20 yeard old.
Maybe I'm just wrong english is not my first language after all.

>> No.38707960

>>38701570
>There are some people who dislike single foreign men
But how the fuck would they know I'm single?

>because they think they're here to bang innocent young Japanese nadeshiko
...maybe

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>>38701570
>>38707960
But I just want to help Nippon with the birthrates!
If they don't make pregnant all those Yamato Nadeshikos someone will have to do it.

>> No.38708566

>>38707143
Saying "until" implies you haven't reached that point yet.

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>>38704171
Even short beards come across as cool/edgy/wild here IMO (except for that gay soul patch chin beard a lot of Japanese guys have, that's apparently okay). It definitely amplifies your gaijin-ness which could be good or bad depending on the situation. I personally switch between stubble and clean shaven.

>>38706705
No

>>38707960
They don't, they just assume. If I wear street clothes and walk around Tokyo without my family, people probably assume I'm some gaijin manwhore

>>38708113
Don't worry anon, I'm on it

>>38704123
>I always wondered, is it possible to get in otaku circles if you are a gaijn? (and have skills and knowledge ofc)
Just my personal experience, but the otakus here are even more standoffish and awkward than the average Japanese person which is really saying something. I guess if you managed to make a close otaku friend they might invite you to stuff but even then maybe not, from their perspective it would be like inviting their special needs friend to the weekly D&D session, awkward for them and potentially annoying for everyone else

>> No.38709588

>>38684895
If Japan was filled with the likes of you, nobody would like it anymore.

>> No.38709654

>>38709588
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Japan#Foreign_residents
Japan has next to no western immigrants.
Why do people like you keep lying and trying to demoralize people that want to go to Japan? Full of your kind in /trv/ threads.
I am starting to think >>38705642 's conspiracy is real.

>> No.38709887

>>38709654
"If" I said.
And it's exactly because it's not already filled with stinking immigrants, that you shouldn't strive to fill it with stinking immigrants.

>> No.38710007

>>38709887
>stinking immigrants
Fisrt speak for yourself selfhating faggot.
Second compared to the chinese and koreans immigrants westeners are less cancerous and they don't pretend shit like reparations or sperg out about muh discrimination like the koreans routinely do.
Go on chinese and korean forums if you really care(you don't) instead of poisoning the discussion here.
Also like few autists from 4chan insterested in Japanese culture are gonna change the demographics stats when 50k chinese and 50k vietnamese immigrate each year there(at least pre corona-chan), despite your attempt at rationalization it's clear your purposes are malicious.

>> No.38710143

>>38710007
If you didn't believe in what I'm saying you wouldn't bother looking at those statistics.
But anyway, nobody except yourself wants or needs you there and you'll always just be a gaijin tourist, I hope you're self-aware enough to at least realize that.

>> No.38710254

WTF is this ? Japancirclejerk bait ?

>> No.38710706

>>38704123
>I always wondered, is it possible to get in otaku circles if you are a gaijn? (and have skills and knowledge ofc)
I'm also wondering if anyone has anything to say about this. Maybe it's frowned upon here, but if I'd move to Japan it would be for the sole purpose of immersing myself in the heart of otaku culture - ideally working within it - and taking everything else in passively. Are the otaku really as bad as the normalfags?

>> No.38711947

I've always thought about moving to Japan, probably some small town in Hokkaido, and working as an electrician, since that's the skillset I already have, but I love my family and I don't want to leave them behind, when god only knows what could happen if I left. I also had a thought about taking the fifteen thousand dollars I have ready as a down payment for a house, and going to live in Japan for a year, paying my rent with said money, and maybe working part time to pay for food and whatever other things I want to buy. That's simultaneously more and less reasonable, because a year is plenty long enough to grow as a person and get some great experiences, but I really need that money to buy a house, and no matter what my plan is for going to Japan, I need to learn Japanese first. Some days I really think about it, and I do want to go for a couple weeks when COVID is over, but I don't think I'll ever move there for real.

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>>38691028
I hate this fucking pasta and I hate everyone that responded to it like it was real

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>>38691028

>> No.38720427

>>38684895
Most japanese people are socially autistic and career slaves. It's not what you think it is. You're not gonna just fly over there and find a wife, unless it's some desperate outcast looking to move away, which would defeat the purpose since she won't want to stay in Japan. She's not gonna be hot like your idols either. You will never make as much money as her, and you will basically be a loser to everyone that knows her. "Why are you dating that drifter? You know he only comes here for sex and he has no career in his homeland." Your children will hate you for being hapas. They won't fit in in Japan, forcing you to move back to your homeland to give them a decent social life. The bloodline you create will never be truly welcome back in Japan because they are not Japanese.

>> No.38720496

>>38684895
It's a meme because they won't let you enter in the first place until people have forgotten about the wuflu
t. exchange student cucked by wuflu

>> No.38721455

>>38708566
He's probably italian, this shitty language uses the same word for "until" and "as long as".

>> No.38721492

>>38706618
I went there to visit and it was fantastic. I wouldn't want to deal with the work culture though, so I'd only ever move there if I became rich,. Not even for weeb reasons or anything, it was just really nice exploring the city and I ate ridiculously well there. I like driving, but having to drive hours to get to anywhere of interest sucks. On top of that, I'd be an outcast no matter where I go so nothing really changes on that front.

>> No.38721692
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I am a burger chinaman and I feel like if the opportunity ever turned up to live in Japan I'd take it for sure. This is of course with the pretext of actually moving for a proper job over there, which I am counting on since I am studying engineering in a field which might have jobs in Japan. Ideally it would be with an American company.
I'm aware that many parts of Japan are not what people chalk it up to be but I am still feeling its allure. I figure even if it turns to shit I can do it for a year or two then fuck off back to the states and no harm is done. Don't know if they hate the filthy Amerikajin gaijin or the defeated bugman chink more.

>> No.38721705

>>38684895
Don't move to Japan, they don't want you. And I agree with their reasons of not wanting foreigners.

>> No.38721806

>>38684895
What's work like if you're a baker or a lifeguard or something rather than an office worker? How much of this culture is related to salarymen in particular?

>> No.38721869

>>38684895
>I just have that unshaking ultra-weeb desire of finding a Japanese wife and starting a family there.

You are a retard holy fuck lmao. I hope you get help before you marry the first jap girl that comes your way. It's 2022 how the fuck do people still fawn over jap women, they are fucking shit.

>> No.38722061

>>38721869
I thought all woman were bad in general?

>> No.38722287

>>38722061
Yes but some more than others. When it comes to asians you'll have a better time marrying a south east asian.

>> No.38722737

>>38721869
Producing loads of good porn as well as cute female characters people bonded with from a young age will induce that sort of desire. I've got half a mind to visit a soapland that tolerates gaijin and fuck some gyaru myself when I take a vacation there in the future, though I rationally realize it would be a disappointing experience.

>> No.38722782

>>38684895
I think the human relationship with Japanese people is tough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRz-h3dZ32M

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Why not just move to Hawaii, anons? It seems like you'd get to enjoy a taste of Japanese culture without being an outsider and dealing with autistic working standards.
>>38721492
>On top of that, I'd be an outcast no matter where I go so nothing really changes on that front.
This, essentially. Since when did the opinion of normalfaggots ever mean anything to anyone here? You'd be just as out of place in India or Somalia. Who cares? What are you there for?

>> No.38724338 [DELETED] 

I fucking hate Americans and their shitty culture
Evertyime I tell them I want to bang a 16y.o they call me a pedo even though I tell them Im from Germany where consent is 14. Get fucked Americans and die, stay away from Japan

>> No.38724396

>>38691028
>2. If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.
Duh. Men are subhuman, ESPECIALLY ASIAN MEN, avoid them as much as physically possible. I know this is a copypasta, this is just for any women who are thinking about going to Japan. Sexism and sexual harassment is expected and unavoidable, you can either suck it up or make a fuss depending on the context. Though you should always tell the person who did that to kill themselves no matter what.

>> No.38724422

>>38724396
YWNBW

>> No.38724433 [DELETED] 

>>38724338
Seethe.

>> No.38724435

>>38724422
God I wish.

>> No.38724459

osama bin fucking was the only good thing about this shit thread

rip sheikh

>> No.38724490 [DELETED] 

>>38724433
You seethe in your retarded mixed shithole
You will never be Japanese
I hope a nigger kills you while I bang a teen

>> No.38724506

>>38724490
calm down hafiz

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>>38724490
You're the one whining lol

>> No.38726961

>>38724338
based and cunnypilled

>> No.38727312 [DELETED] 

does 'you will never be japanese' actually bother people? white people should take the same stance in their own countries desu

>> No.38730275 [DELETED] 

>>38724338
Isn't it 14 only if age gap is small enough? I agree with you and hate this modern culture that criminalizes teenage sexuality but your laws are almost as bad.

>> No.38730321

>>38721869
>Jap women bad
As if rational people would take an advice from a generalizing idiot like you.

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>>38727312
"you will never be European", this is what I say to all americans

>> No.38731257

>>38724076
Hawaii has a crazy high cost of living

>> No.38731391

>>38727312
I will also never be German despite living in Germany. It doesn't mean you can't become part of the community, but it takes effort an time. Partially voluntary association is how people anywhere bond. Usually people do this through school or work and if they have kids through their activities. Clubs, such as choir or football, are also a good way to associate. The key is to be sociable and to speak the language. Being foreign puts you 5 points behind, because you miss the bonds from growing up there, but it's not unsurmountable. Or you don't give a fuck and just live a solo life, which has its charm too. I lived in Japan for only 7 months and it was lovely despite not integrating.

>> No.38731941

>>38731391
You are German if you were born with German blood, it's simple as that.
You can be considered the less popular German in Germany yet that doesn't make you non German, on the other hand someone immigrating in Germany might be the most popular person in Germany and yet they will never be German.

>> No.38732146

>>38731941
That's what I meant. I immigrated here when I came back from Japan about two years ago. I'm not German nor was I born here.

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>>38730944
>Still seething

>> No.38732986 [DELETED] 

>>38724338
the brainlet monkeys running this cancerous site banned me for saying a 15yo was hot
fuck these niggers i hope their shity shithole gets nuked

>Uploading files from your IP range has been blocked due to abuse.
yeah fuck you too fat american pig
https://files.catbox.moe/pd74y5.jpg

>> No.38733024 [DELETED] 

>>38732986
stfu

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38732986
gb2 krautchan

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>>38732986
I got banned for 4 days too for posting >>38730275 . Too bad it's too easy to bypass your stupid ban. Eat a dick mods.

>> No.38733807

>>38721869
There's a funny contradiction not many people seem to point out when it comes to Japanese women. That is because as a Gaijin, if a Japanese woman shows interest in you it makes her automatically human dogshit-tier because it implies she is OK with interbreeding. A true high quality Japanese goddess is inaccessible to us lowly gaijin because of her higher moral standards.

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>>38732986
>>38730275
13 is much hotter than both 15 and 14 though, I also hate americans like you wouldn't believe.
I won't get banned cause I've corrupted the mods in advance by buying a pass.

>> No.38734415 [DELETED] 

How much of a fucking pussy do you have to be to actually go and report to the fucking mod. Look how easy I bypass your stupid ban you worthless touhou 40 year old nigger

You will always be American
You will never bang a 16 year old in a car, you will always be circumcised and have a mutilated dick.
Your dick will always be dry and disgusting, you can't even masturbate.

Fuck Americans and fuck niggers and god bless 15y.o teens, CŨCK

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>he's still seething
Absolutely obsessed.

>> No.38734471 [DELETED] 

If I had a mutilated dick I would sure be seething

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>>38734471
Krautnigger projection

>> No.38735235 [DELETED] 

Less talk about cock and more about marrying Japanese women

>> No.38735398 [DELETED] 

>>38735235
Marry your own kind you homo. Japanese women should only marry Japanese men. You care about their homogeneity and uniqueness, don't you? You wouldn't want the anons of the future be deprived of Japanese culture, right? It would be a shame if Japanese culture was to die because some selfish faggot couldn't attract a woman from his home country and got indoctrinated by cartoons.

>> No.38735410 [DELETED] 

>>38734415
imagine being proud of being a german faggot

>> No.38739617

>>38721869
I hope you can make your dream of living in Japan come true, but it's crazy or naive of you to dream of marrying a Japanese woman, the reality is absolutely different from what you see on youtube, porn, tv, etc...

>> No.38743067

>>38739617
What is the reality then?

>> No.38746435

>>38730321
I actually have experience dating Japanese women in Japan you fucking moron and they're all the same with a few outliers.

>> No.38746496

>>38733807
Pretty much. A high value Japanese woman will not date a foreigner.

>> No.38746649

>>38746435
Did you date all the Japanese women or how is your anecdote of dating a few of them is supposed to be a counter argument?

>> No.38749002

>>38746496
>A high value Japanese woman
fucking kek read this fucking shit out loud and realize how far gone you're from reality

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>>38694614
>And Japanese women thinking gaijin women are sluts, hmmm... why is that? Why do all non-Western cultures seem to think that? Maybe it's because they talk, dress, and act like sluts. So western women made their bed on this one, no sympathy from me here.

Kinda funny given how rampant prostitution is in Japan. I hope you don't have a daughter or she might get a sugar daddy once she's in high school

>> No.38761389

>>38749002
Cope gaijin because that's the truth.

>> No.38761429

>>38746649
woman that are from a conformist society are all pretty similar dude lol. sure some have different hobbies and shit but their attitudes and beliefs are pretty identical to each other.

>> No.38769898

>>38761429
I can't believe you're arguing that all 50 million Japanese women all have the same personality and expect anyone to take that seriously.

>> No.38770011

>>38761389
You're just alienated by cartoons and too much internet. Get a life dude

>> No.38770068

>>38751727
Do you guys think actually conservative and sexually chaste women actually exist anywhere in the first world at this point? I'm genuinely asking. The common perception is that American and European women are all very sexually liberal but it seems to me that women elsewhere are all really just the same but try to keep up appearances. This appears to be universal in all places where feminism has taken root significantly.

>> No.38773960

>>38770068
Nah, of course not. That's why we're on /jp/ instead of tending to our trad wifes. However, a man can dream, can he not?

>> No.38775282

they see you like a pest when you sit on a train they turn away from you, the old people are the most racist

>> No.38776092

>>38697256
>If you're a dude and you skin is any color other than lily white (I'm greek and tan pretty easily) you're a serial rapist.

Holy based

>> No.38776145

>>38700370
may God reserves you, your Japanese dream place in heaven for when your time comes

>> No.38777266

>>38724076
lol hawaiians are ultra-racist even just the people pretending to have that heritage.

>> No.38777431

>>38710706
It’s probably not impossible if you make a real effort to fit in. Lots of foreigners don’t because it’s hard or because Japanese too hard or because they feel like it’s cringe to LARP as a jap, but if you can make an effort successfully and persistently you might be able to earn some degree of acceptance

>> No.38786691

How many of you live in places where asians are normal and don't only show up in restaurants, laundromats, and rich guys' bedrooms and are expected to speak your language without an accent? They're all weird aliens you can barely understand here. I imagine it's like that with non-Japanese in Japan. Hearing one speak in plain English with actual stresses on their syllables would probably cause me to unintentionally make a face.

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>>38691028
>. If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.

>> No.38787558

>>38710706
otaku are usually right-wingers in japan, they don’t like foreigners especially white western males

>> No.38787629

the only things worth living in japan for imo:
>rhythm games at the game center
>mikan flavour chuhai
>insanely cheap used retro vidya at book-off
>karaage-kun from lawson
>can be basically invisible and anonymous, never get hassled on the street, no threat of violence, no pressure to engage in social interaction

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>>38684895

>> No.38794833

why would you aim at legit japanese girls when you can go for the hot hapas that will actually accept dating a gaijins without being shamed by their whole familiy and social circle

>> No.38794868

int and vt need to die

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>>38794772
Glorious pasta

>> No.38796237

>>38795058
indeed

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>>38787558
>usually right-wingers
Are they really?
Good, we can remember the good old days of the Axis together and talk about playing Girls und Panzer IRL.

>> No.38809999

>>38804448
>they don’t like foreigners especially white western males
You won't talk about shit.

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>>38809999
Damn, why do you have to shatter my dreams like that with those digits?

>> No.38810456

>>38724076
>Move to Hawaii

Even having US citizenship, that's still unironically harder than moving to Japan.

>> No.38816618

>>38810456
No it isn’t. I just spent eight months there before I realized it’s a shitty place to live, especially Oahu and the big island

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