/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>38678883
You didn't need to include the /vip/ link. That was my failed experiment.

nothing can follow up the kanon tit discussion from last thread apparently

>>38683920
It was too good not to include

No posts in the past 10 minutes...

thred's ded. fuck this shit i;m going to sleep

gimme just a minute

>>38684371
americans are asleep.

New batch of doujinshi scanned and ready to start cleaning. I've been trying to focus on doing non-h ones lately since there are just so many that I need to go through, but I'm thinking that once I finish all of these I might start looking into finally scanning some R18 ones too.

>>38684388
well?

>>38684472
it was this >>38684445
I was working on finishing those scans before putting together the assembly to post.

>>38684543
I hope they turn out well for your sake friend

>>38684565
Huh? They should be fine, but what does that even mean?

>>38684580
>but what does that even mean
It means I care about you. I appreciate the work and effort.

>>38684658
ahh, thank you for the kind words. I'm working on cleaning the bottom left one right now. Hopefully I'll be able to finish up a couple this weekend.

I want them both.

>>38684743
lucky shion get a femboy

>>38684743
poor kid probably woke up in that outfit considering the things Shion was bringing in during her visits.

>>38684743
to be happy while I rail Rika and/or Satoko

Shion bringing Satoshi to work, showing him all the cocks she's used to take for money and letting him ride a few of them.

>>38684977
I think she'd rather let him ride Keiichi if given the chance.

Good morning! I love Satoko.

>>38685281
Satoko doesn't love you.

>>38685292
No, I'm fairly sure she does actually

>>38685302
If you're her Nii-nii, I want to have sex with you.

>>38685302
Proof?

>>38685315
calm down Irie

>>38684743
Same.

>>38685322
No need for proof

I've heard that Ryukishi initially wanted to end Higurashi with Minagoroshi. Can anybody confirm this?

>>38685370
Just as I thought.

I had another dream with Rosa and it wasn't sexual this time

>>38685373
All I read is that he really felt bad about how tsumi was received

>>38685411
Where did you read that?

>>38685419
some blog with no source

>>38685419
https://0707toshokan.wordpress.com/2020/02/02/after-tsumihoroboshi/

>>38685433
no source? into the trash it goes.

>>38685402
I had a dream about Erika, I think we were kissing for abit and Bern got jealous for some reason

>>38685458
Sure I believe you.

>>38685392
loving satoko doesnt need any proof you reatrd meepers

>>38685458
Bern is a loser with no friends, much less a lover.

>>38685507
Satoko loving you does need proof.

>>38685509
go away ange nobody likes you.

For me? It's the wet dream I had about Satoko riding me as she moans out ni-ni.

You can all stop lying now.

>>38685598
I would never lie about my imouto

a month ago I had a dream where ange and battler were lying naked on a cliff most likely they had sex there.

>>38685648
Ange wishes that was real.

>>38683920
I think it's rather fun, anon, even if I don't have a pass.

>>38684743
Good opinion!

fat and meep

>>38681902
It bothers me more that any development Higurashi had on the theme, Gou took a big fat shit all over it and pretends that this is fine. Saikoroshi retconned, Hanyuu somehow happy with the end result and Satoko got her saikoroshi equivalent development in a single scene lasting about 3 seconds. Wowowow.

>>38681950
Yeah, that's one big reason why the ending felt extremely unfinished. It's just the witches' take on things. And then almost immediately after that, Satoko's witch fucked off somewhere to become Lambda. Rika's state was left in limbo and the series just ends at that point with Hanyuu watching over Hinamizawa with a dumb smile on her face, what the fuck. That's downright insulting. What about Rika?

>>38682070
Retroactively ruining characters in two works with a sequel to one of them. Sasuga ryukishi.

imouto love

I want the Hanyuu on the right

>>38684743
I need more of this

>>38685886
I need less of it. So, let's maintain the status quo.

>>38685879
Yes!

>>38685899
Keiichi is a very lucky man

>>38685919
isn't he

>>38685433
Why are all jap artists like this? Anything less than constant praise and they threaten to nuke themselves.

>[Higurashi] just for some reason gained undeserved praise at some point…
>the last chapter, Matsuribayashi-hen, is going to become the worst
>Ryukishi07 isn’t trying to pass himself for some writer or artist, he is the same as you, just a good-for-nothing doujin lover from a doujin circle…
He is surprisingly self-aware when depressed, I give him that.
I wonder how he learned to deal with his undeserved and ever-growing popularity, growing out of doujin circles and getting even more criticism as a result. Maybe it was just the fat stacks of cash from the Higurashi anime production deal?

>>38685934
Fragile egos.

>>38685411
>>38685433
Tsumi eas poorly received?

>>38685955
I think it has to do with the trolling Ryukishi always did with his core audience. Taking fan theories and subtly (sometimes not so subtly) ridiculing them in the next arc.
Other audiences don't know those bits as personal attacks, so the reception is different.

>>38685999
Why make a series when theorising is encouraged, only to mock those theories anyway?

>>38686012
Nobody ever said Ryukishi is a good person.

Remember how he marketed the Comiket Onikakushi release with something like "under 1% correct solution rate!"?
Yeah, no shit, Higurashi totally is solvable from Onikakushi. lol, goats, lmao. Well, he later regretted doing that. But it took until Ciconia before he changed his ways.

>>38686033
>Remember how he marketed the Comiket Onikakushi release with something like "under 1% correct solution rate!"?
No, care to elaborate on that?

>>38685955
I guess the switch from mystery to hyper-action conspiracy battle wasn't nearly as well received by detective novel fans as he wished.
And the tricks behind onikaushi was pretty bad, too.
>>38686041
He got fanmails speculating the truth of onikakushi and like one person got it right

>>38686080
>and like one person got it right
I can't resist.
Do you think that person was of Italian descent?
Props to him anyway.

>>38686080
1% is 1 person out of 100, and surely Onikakushi sold more than 100 copies, so if anything that's a conservative eatimation.

>>38686091
It was 2002.
Onikakushi sold like 50 copies.

A gaijin reading it at that point seems about as likely as a naked and horny meeper suddenly materializing on your lap right now.

>>38686105
>surely Onikakushi sold more than 100 copies
lol, lmao

>>38686107
Yes thanks I was kidding...

>>38685919
Getting bashed in the head with a bat isn't lucky.

>>38686125
He's fine.

>>38686113
Got any numbers?

>>38685934
>>38685955
Why are you treating a sourceless quote as legit?

>>38686134
Onikakushi-hen sold 50 copies for 100 yen at Comiket 62.

>>38686154
Source?

I'm really excited about the new Oni manga, from what I have gathered the artist has been fan of Higu since 2007 and really likes the Sonozaki.

>>38686125
He survived long enough for Satoko to give birth to his daughter

>>38686187
i thought it was common knowledge at this point

>>38686137
0707toshokan is credible. The original source is an anonymous post anyways.

>>38686187
>>38686211
I think there is some write up about Higurashi by R07 himself that mentions it, although I couldn't find it right now on a quick search.

>>38686105
There weren't even 100 copies of OG Onikakushi ever made.

>>38686216
>>0707toshokan is credible.
Says who?

>>38686012
It's not mocking. it's playful banter between a man who likes hearing people guess at the answer and fans who like to come up with ideas.

I remember people got pissed at the theory goats when Episode 8 came out because they felt like Ryukishi was ridiculing them for trying to solve the mystery. When in reality the only thing being discouraged was letting the logic puzzles blind you to the human struggles behind the crimes. The theory goats are even praised by Eiserne Jungfrau as Dlanor and Will thoroughly enjoy fighting them. The only one who does get ridiculed is the one goat who acted superior about giving up on thinking,

>>38686299
>>It's not mocking. it's playful banter
Doesn't seem like the fans agreed with that interpretation.
But I guess the fans are retarded, right?

smuggest jessi

>>38686303
It's on them how they interpret the story. But I find such an interpretation unfortunate.

>>38686315
We were talking about that "banter" thingie.

>ur goat
>Just banter brah lol
>ok hack
>nooooo how could this happen to me here's a retcon of my novel please come back

>>38686319
>>38686315
I think we can all agree that the tricks behind umineko are pretty lame, right?

>>38686384
wh-what

>>38686299
You really don't understand the context. He ALWAYS directly trolled his japanese core comiket audience. Every single Higurashi arc was reactionary to the previous one's reception. So was every single Umineko arc. And he enjoyed trolling BT more than anyone else. Anyone reading anything later than the original comiket releases had no part in his direct author vs reader dynamic.

This is not about ep8 goats. The fact that he managed to piss off people completely unrelated to his direct audience trolling is a completely different layer of fuckery.

>>38686408
>Every single Higurashi arc was reactionary to the previous one's reception.
that could be an explanation of himatsubushi being so different
Very underrated arc

>>38686404
I win

>>38686424
Oh, congratulations!

So glad people are finally accepting Higurashi never had a sequel

>>38686462
I actually don't accept that Higurashi itself exists.

>>38686462
Had? What are you talking about? It has a currently ongoing manga original sequel, illustrated by Tomato Akase. Weird that Ryukishi chose manga instead of VN, but so far it's not too bad.

why was someone complaining about sotsugou turning satoko and rika into lambda and bern when that was a pre established plot point and turned out to be the whole thing that was happening in it anyway

don't get it

>>38686408
I understand that perfectly. I just don't think it was in any way malicious. He just likes seeing people get invested in the stories and puzzles he writes, and so will add things that will tease the readers based on feedback he's gotten.

>>38686667
Link the post.

What's your favourite Ryukishi sentence?
I think I will be dishonest with myself if I picked anything other than "Rub."

>>38686393
For the most part yeah. Though the real mystery is about understanding the characters and the way falsehoods are portrayed on the gameboard. The actual closed rooms themselves are pretty straightforward with some variety here and there but ultimately nothing too crazy.

>>38686682
>>38682070
>>38683581

>>38686712
Ah, I see.

>>38686667
That was me. My point was that the characters didn't feel like themselves because they were being written with the foregone conclusion that they would become these preexisting models. For example, it didn't feel like, "how can we further explore Satoko's character" but rather "how can we turn Satoko into Lambdadelta" Which is why a bunch of the plot points feel so forced and unnatural.

>>38686675
>I understand that perfectly.
No you don't, your previous post made that obvious. You can only refer to parts that made overseas audiences angry for unrelated reasons.

You simply don't have the context, almost none of us do, you don't know what was being discussed, you don't know which parts were written in response to 2ch threads, so you simply see them as natural parts of the story without ever even questioning them. Do you understand?
This is also one of the reasons why English audiences rank his works higher than Japs who know better.

>>38686708

>>38686802
it's explicitly supposed to not feel like satoko anymore. it's identity death. that's the whole point. you're not supposed to like it.

>>38686709
My issue is that Umineko has something like 150+ hours? And half of that time is spent for shitty mystery in the end.

>>38686850
So they made a hilariously bad anime that just shoved Lambda's character into Satoko without giving it any time to breathe on purpose, I got it

>>38686393
Sure.

>>38686929
it was very poorly handled

>>38686942
for us

>>38686667
Rika -> Bern before Gou/Sotsu was seen as a complete split. Like Bern were Rika's rejects or something.

The Satoko -> Lambda connection was generally seen as just a couple of random references or even Lambda attempting to mimic her to please Bern (granted, this theory is stupid, but we obviously lacked any actual story context to justify Satoko as Lambda). The general idea was that she was an unrelated ancient witch with no personal ties to Rika that just randomly participated in her suffering (although some of the early dialogue in Umineko makes no sense with that scenario compared to what we have now).

I remember -one- person that tried to justify a direct connection as Lambda being born from Satoko's suffering, and how that started before Rika's own suffering so she could be considered pre-existing to Bern. Obviously the actual explanation didn't turn out anything like that either.

>>38686807
I only brought up the goats bit as an example that English audiences would understand better. And I'm not saying I understand the specifics of which points were written in response to what. But based on what I've read from interviews, seen on message boards from back then, and even the bits he delivers through Ikuko regarding readers, I feel like I have a general idea of how he typically likes to interact with his readers. Of course there's plenty I don't know, but I think it's pretty rude and presumptuous to act like English speakers can't gain some understanding even without the complete context. The way you phrase it makes it sound like English readers are just second-class fans who only enjoy the series because they're too stupid to see through Ryukishi's bullshit.

>>38687006
that makes a little more sense, thank you. for the last point, umineko itself says that time gets more vague as you ascend further up, so i could never understand why people were so hung up on it being impossible since the timeline didn't match up.

>>38686941
Do imagine feeling Shanon's thighs and boobs at the same time wowowow

>>38687050
satok blessed takano?

>>38687050
Wouldn't the whole recursive timeline stuff be a logic error in and of itself?

Umineko bad

>>38687090
Retroactively.
Is it future, or is it past

>>38687090
it's possible, but it doesn't really matter either way because hanyuu herself said the lines lambda would have when tacano's failure became clear - if she would have asked to make her a god straight up instead of pussying out.

>>38687132
possibly, but in what game? i have high hopes for the rest of ciconia.

>>38687147
From /a/?

>>38686667
Satoko had absolutely no reason to become Lambdadelta before Sotsugyou. Why are you people so willing to accept a retcon?

>>38687162
>it's possible, but it doesn't really matter either way
satoko practically causing the whole thing is kinda hilarious

>>38687058
How often do you think they'd wind up in situations of unintended contact like that while on the job?

>>38687179
Yes and i'm still angry that the trick ending is the "bad" one even though it's the only one where Ange develops

>>38687201
Multiple times. Some places are rather cramped after all and Shanon's ass.

>>38687181
because new content and crossovers equal hype and profits.

>>38687181
from reading higurashi and umineko, i always thought satoko = lambda but we didn't know how or why. sotsugou answered that question (poorly)

>>38687205
I think the biggest issue of the trick ending is that Ange is indeed justifed in killing Amakusa and ruining Okonogi's plan.

Please stop reminding me of how much potential it had.

>>38687205
she develops in both endings though, just in different ways.

>>38687205
developing into a psycho who starts killing people and committing intellectual rapes is bad, even if it means she gets that sweet imaginary erika pussy

>>38687256
as a long higu fan i don't think it had any potnetial

>>38687248
Absolutely, and R07 was well aware of this, so he put the Erika tulpa and treated Ange killing the boat owner as proof of her moral decay instead of 50% justified self-defense 50% tragic collateral damage

>>38687272
The magic ending definitely works better with manga in mind.

>>38687273
>psycho who starts killing people and committing intellectual rapes
See? >>38687287
R07 did well. Either you gobble up his "everything is subjective so escapism is good" bullshit or you're an intellectual rapist and a murderer. No in-betweens. Umineko is the ultimate strawman.

>>38687278
>long higu fan
mmm

>>38687287
I would honestly rewrite the whole Ange-Okonogi shenanigans out of Umineko.
What do you personally think about the idea on turning Erika into an loner type of character after ep 6 who works independent of Bern? I hate how her development feels thrown out of the window in ep8.

>>38686188
>fan of the Sonozakis
>gets to draw manga about the Sonozakis
Living the dream.

>>38687310
picking an ending isn't an adversarial thing, it's choosing peace when you can choose peace

see this love filled post from last thread >>38682137

>>38687312
since 2009 to be more precise

>>38687373
I was more interested in your height

>>38687007
This topic wouldn't be discussed if we couldn't gain some understanding of it, so that's not what I meant.
But there are things we simply can't ever know. We weren't there when they happened, BT is dead, much his original fanbase has long since given up on Ryukishi (@hanyuuaua is the only one still aboard that I know of, and he's just a goods otaku.) So these things will never be documented by anyone with the requisite knowledge.

>The way you phrase it makes it sound like English readers are just second-class fans who only enjoy the series because they're too stupid to see through Ryukishi's bullshit.
That's a very negative way to put it, but essentially not wrong.
It's more of a happy accident, blissful ignorance. Overseas fans have translators as editors and we are blissfully unaware of many things that made it so personal (in a negative way) for his original core fanbase.
It's also a big credit to his writing ability that most of the shit he wrote reactively didn't create big plot holes/retcons nor stick out like a sore thumb otherwise.

>>38687236
She wasn't. Lambda didn't even "read" higurashi.

>>38687385
come on i was being lazy

>>38687310
it wasn't escapism though. That was her mistake in Episode 4. But by the end of 8 she'd come to terms with her family's death and chosen to move on with her life. The whole deal with her denying Bern's red wasn't about closing her eyes to the truth, but rather not letting the truth control her view of the world.

>>38687419
It's just friendly banter

>>38687354
>Erika into an loner type of character after ep 6 who works independent of Bern
Not sure, but it sure looks like R07 could've done something more with her. I'm more or less satisfied with what she did but she really didn't do much in 8.

>>38687433
yes, good post

>>38687006
I want to go back to this time.

>>38687433
It was 100% escapism, except you replace "daydreaming about your tulpas" with "aggressively convince yourself that they were all good people". Not escapism would be forgetting about them, R07 specifically wanted Ange to go with "they're great".

>>38687457
What if Erika and Dlanor replaced Will's role in ep 7? You get further character development, don't need to create more characters in the penultimate episode and you may even get a confrontation between Erika and Bernkastel that ties in the theme of abuser and abused and the cycle of hatred where Erika acknowledges Bern as a terrible witch-being but still understands her past and ultimately forgives her.
Just do more with her than what we actually got.

>>38687520
>What if Erika and Dlanor replaced Will's role in ep 7?
Actually genius. How the hell didn't R07 think about it?

>>38687484
Lambdatokobros...

>>38687416
There's no interpretation of Lambda's character where she doesn't know about Higurashi's events. Her whole deal is claiming she is the only one who can understand Bern and her past and Bern is the one who can understand her.

Right after that scene where she says she doesn't know the ending of the Higurashi game, you get her lashing out on Beatrice about how she plays with Bern around, but wants Beatrice to take her seriously.

>>38687560
And that is supposed to tie her to Satoko how...?

>>38687529
I always hated how Will was just casually introduced in ep 7 (i know he might be battler's avatar and shit but still)

>>38687392
I still don't really buy this claim that Umineko was some big failure in Japan. While it certainly never took off like Higurashi did, there have still been plenty of fans among which it was positively received. Being less widespread is not the same thing as being disliked.

>>38687520
I think part of Erika's problem is that Ryukishi initially planned her as just an extension of Bern. In the end, he made her a character of her own, but I think it's very likely the story outline mostly remained the same. If you think about her role in the plot, it all fits perfectly if she still was treated as just an extension of Bern.

Pleasuring myself to lesbian Higurashi erotica.

>>38687620
Umineko was somewhat successful (far from Higurashi but still), but also received a lot of backlash from japanese fans.

>>38687623
i disagree just because of the fact erika was an afterthought
she is the leftover character of what virgilius could have become

>>38687520
I've had that idea in the past, though I was thinking it would just be Dlanor. Letting her have some individual screentime away from Erika would give more weight to them clashing in Episode 8, while also filling in the gaps to give context to her taking Battler's side.

>>38687620
i thought it was common knowledge at this point

>>38687620
It wasn't necessarily a "failure" but you can't dispute the fact that Ryukishi couldn't recover since 2011.

>>38687590
it's because bern was writing the episode, you're supposed to be disgusted at her arbitrary additions and modifications to the story

>>38687667
Yeah I was thinking about Dlanor replacing Will too, but I hate Erika in ep 8 so much that I actively have to make her diverge from the canon story as much as possible.

>>38687708
This argument is and has always been retarded.

It's still shit writing. Doesn't matter how many layers of surrogate authors Ryukishi uses. It's not a good read. Many such cases in Umineko.

>>38687763
goat

>>38687673
To be fair, that's largely on him. He scaled back his stories and distanced them from the franchise he'd built up, choosing to do several smaller safer projects instead of another large ambitious one. Also, the lack of an anime for any of them would've crippled the exposure for any of his works.

>>38687778
>thing is not enjoyable to read
>counterargument: character x wrote it
>thing is still not enjoyable to read
>counterargument: goat
I love this line of reasoning.

>>38687799
No you don't get,
there was even a trivia story when Ryukishi attended the comiket after the release of ep 8 to promote higanbana. Literally nobody was standing in line for ryukishi's booth.
Btw, his booth was between two touhou fan booths and people described the spectacle as MOSES'S RED SEA MIRACLE because nobody queueing up to see ryukishi

>>38687855
Or, more generally:
>>thing is not enjoyable to read
>>counterargument: it's bad on purpose
>>thing is still not enjoyable to read
>>counterargument: goat

>>38687457
To be fair, Erika came back as a cameo.

>>38687902
>>38687855
Ah, the matrix...

>>38687218
Sharing a large bed together in the servant room. Kanon accidentally bumping up against Shannon's large chest as it takes up a chunk of the bed space.

>>38687927
Kanon should have buried his dick inside every single hole Shanon possesses, prove me wrong.
Would subtly imply that Yasu was masturbating/attempting to masturbate

>>38687898
Dunno about that trivia, but...

>Just ended controversial work

>Rather than doing something more mainstream or attempt to please people who reacted negatively in general, does a VN adaptation of an odd manga that wasn't popular in the first place

Obviously he probably hoped for a better response, but it's not like he went back did some Higurashi-style story and people didn't even care to check that. He just doubled down on his own interests because he still could do that at the time.

>>38687977
So would you describe it as 'he does whatever he wants since he has the money and fame'?

>>38687898
Fuckin' LMAO

>>38687898
...Source?

>>38687763
Very well put

>>38687007
>how he typically likes to interact with his readers
He likes to ridicule them. That hasn't changed even now.

>>38688084
Sadly can't find the source anymore, like I can see Japanese people mentioning it when they're making fun of him, so it may be as well as a rumor.

>>38687898
Kek

>>38688131
That's just R07 being a moron here. Maybe the manga is different, but the anime literally dropped the STUDYING line dozens of times

>>38687898
sorry for the garbage grammar btw i must have lost my mind while writing it.

>>38688137
What do the japs say when they make fun of him, anyway

>>38688161
That was a pre-Sotsu interview. He constantly talked about how it wasn't about studying post-Gou, but then changed to saying "of course, studying is impossible for some people! I'm sure you can understand!" after Sotsu.

I'd really like to see his outline for Gou/Sotsu in order to see if the study focus really came from him or if he's just trying to defend the anime staff.

Boy it sure is fun coming into /07th/ and talking about how shitty Ryukishi's works are, how everybody in Japan hates him, and how English-speaking fans who enjoy it are just deluded idiots getting strung along by a troll who wants nothing more than to torment them.

>>38688178
needle and syringe in onikakushi, goats, him being too stupid to distinguish parasite and virus, that nobody finds out that shannon is kanon, okonogi's line while fighting mion (you know which one i mean), matsuribayashi in general, bad tricks in general, his hair loss in general, etc.

>>38688245
The leader of men line?

>>38688245
Elaborate please I want more. Which Okonogi line btw?

>>38688272
The infamous SAS line

>>38688295
What's so bad about that one

>>38688306
You need to read it in original Japanese.

>>38688318
Heh.

>>38687855
i found it very enjoyable personally, if you don't like it it's a matter of taste

>>38688358
what did you think was so enjoyable about it

>>38688389
every episode past 4 has very distinctive stylistic and thematic alterations based on the fictional "author," it's very clever. bern's whole episode is an intellectual rape of every previous episode, which i didn't really like until near the end of the episode, but i could still appreciate it as very clever. for the record, 7 is my least favorite episode since claire's play is deathly boring

You know what, *click*.

>>38688476

>>38688295
>>38688306
>>38688321
Elaborate.

>>38688592
No.

>>38688496
I want the meeper to look at me like this.

>>38688592
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%81%B2%E3%81%90%E3%82%89%E3%81%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%9A

Here is a page with the specific segment. Commentary bellow, machine translated.

>It was first published in "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsurihashi Hen". It is an exchange at the end of the story. I'm not sure when it first became popular in the internet world, but the fame of this copy and paste probably comes from the "chills that pass through the cringe".

>First of all, for those of you who don't know SAS or Spetsnaz, this is the "SAS? Delta Force? Spetsnaz? If you look at the respective entries in the encyclopedia, you will find that SAS (British Army), Delta Force (U.S. Army), and Spetsnaz (Russian for "Special Operations Forces. These are world-famous special forces units that most people who have a little bit of military knowledge will be familiar with.

>By the way, the "British Intelligence" in the copy and paste is supposed to be "MI6", which actually exists in England and to which James Bond, the hero of the fictional "007", belongs. This is also a famous agency, and those who have seen the 007 movies or the original novels are probably aware of this fact.

>So, why is this copy and paste still being used as a story?

>One of the most common opinions on message boards is that the author mixed up all the special forces and organizations he could think of and threw them into the dialogue of the characters, which caused a "what are you talking about?" effect.

>The fact that this exchange is portrayed as a heated development in the story also adds to the pain.

>However, some people have commented that it didn't bother them while they were playing, or that if they didn't feel uncomfortable with the development and writing so far, they would be fine with this (see the message board below). In addition to this, the whole festival music version was originally written in this style with a fast pace, so the pain was emphasized by cutting out only a part of the story. I hope you will not deny the author or his work just because of this copypaste.

>>38688131
Not at all Hackisi07 secretly cries in his daily life for his poor decisions...

>>38688707
What is Japan's problem?

>>38688854
DEEN's animation seems to have improved over the years. Good for them.

I still can't stop thinking about this adorable little gremlin. I wonder if I'll ever recover. Satoko is cute Satoko.

>>38689277
Sotsugou made me hate Satoko a lot.

>>38689495
that wasn't satoko exactly

>>38687620
You could see the decline in popularity of Umineko through Ryukishi's character popularity polls. They were highest right after the first chapter's release and after that they kept falling to the point that Ryukishi stopped posting vote numbers and only posted percentages. Umineko was popular early on because lots of Higurashi fans wanted to see what Ryukishi would make next and most of them abandoned it after seeing what it was.

>>38689495
It made me worry about her wellbeing more than anything else since the first time I read Tatarigoroshi.

>>38688212
This but unironically.

>>38688212
I don't think everyone in Japan hates him though

>>38689714
True, most japs have never heard of him.

>>38689636
There were two Chiru polls with numbers. They certainly fell compared to Episode 1/2 ones but not that badly. You get first ranking going from 800/700 to 500 votes. Still, not even the Episode 1/2 numbers compare with the numbers from the Higurashi polls.

>>38689746
>>38689636
Post numbers please.

>>38689763

https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/07th_Expansion_Character_Popularity_Poll/Umineko_1st_Popularity_Poll
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/07th_Expansion_Character_Popularity_Poll/Umineko_2nd_Popularity_Poll

https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/07th_Expansion_Character_Popularity_Poll/Umineko_Chiru_1st_Popularity_Poll_(BBS)
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/07th_Expansion_Character_Popularity_Poll/Umineko_Chiru_2nd_Popularity_Poll_(BBS)

>>38689643
She needs saving from Rika. Separating them will benefit them both in the long run or at least until Rei.

>>38689780
Basically a 50% loss? How did Higurashi do?

>>38689933
Please stop being completely helpless and look up the numbers yourself.

>>38689746
The first poll had over 1000 votes for the first two characters while the later two BBs ones barely reached 500. That is a roughly 50% drop. And yeah, comparing the number of votes of even the early Umineko polls to the late Higurashi polls really shows that Umineko failed to catch on.

>>38689495
Rika was a bad influence on Satoko, living with her has caused serious damage.
She needs quality time with her nii-nii/nee-nee to repair this.

I still find it surprising how Ryukishi simply took and slightly modified the joke version of Oyashiro-sama his fans had made and then used it in Higurashi.

>>38689809
What she needs is a real family. Rika is a good friend.
Regarding that, there are things I want to say about the ending. But I should hold my tongue until Meguri finishes.

But. Satoko had a really awful childhood. And Gou turned her early adolescence into something even more fucked up. I think the way she got through it, as depicted by Kawaguchi's anime, is okay. He never understood any of Higurashi's characters, but you can see where the red string of Ryukishi's original plot lies.

>>38690042
>>38690024
cute

>>38689495
Why would Sotsugyou make you hate Satoko? She didn't even appear in it.
She was a main character in the original, and she didn't even get a cameo.

>>38690101
She did, until she got turned into a witch by circumstances.

>>38687652
I disagree because Virgilius was a throwaway prototype.
He is the leftover junk that was ditched in the creation of Erika.

I like saying the opposite thing from [other post], it's very funny.

/07/ meetup

>reading WTC
>"haha these characters are so dumb they don't know they're looping"
>go to work
>see pic related diagram
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M LOOOOOOOPING MAKE IT STOP TASUKETE NII NII AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>38690076
Even disregarding the whole execution, part of the issue I have with the anime is that it seems to portray Rika's presence as the only problem for Satoko's teenage years, with her overlooking the rest of the world due to Rika.

Then in the end she gets to retreat to Hinamizawa without really learning anything aside from how keeping Rika around was a bad idea.

Meguri has shown several times that Satoko just languishing there is bad too though, so hopefully the ending won't be as empty as that.

>>38690024
>>38690042
Did he really?

Those images (and more) are still up on the artist's own website and show a last-modified date from 2008.
https://gamutedekotei.ame-zaiku.com/image/oyasiro1.jpg
https://gamutedekotei.ame-zaiku.com/image/oyasiro2.jpg
https://gamutedekotei.ame-zaiku.com/image/oyasiro3.jpg
https://gamutedekotei.ame-zaiku.com/image/oyasiro4.jpg
https://gamutedekotei.ame-zaiku.com/image/oyasiro5.jpg
https://gamutedekotei.ame-zaiku.com/image/oyasiro6.jpg

>>38690162

Pick one and only one:
[ ] rough one-leg-in-the-air sex against a tree in the woods behind the shrine with Satoko while she struggles to hold her voice in
[ ] cuddly, tender, sweet, and adorably awkward Nii-Nii sucki sucki with Satoko in her old room at her house
[ ] passionate "cooking lessons" with Satoko on top of you and making no effort to hold back her moans while Rika is out shopping

>>38690249
All three sound appealing but i'm going with 3.

still looking for a simple, time-efficient way to extract the text from trianthology. I'll draw you an Alice in return for a solution.

>>38690249
I have read all of these. I pick the cooking lessons.

>>38690249
I choose none.

>>38690249
I will always choose 3.

>>38690167
Yeah. Fans thought it would be funny if they drew the fierce god to who people did human sacrifices as a kind and innocent little girl with an animal feature and a miko outfit. She was called Oyashiro-tan; Ryukishi saw that and threw it into the VNs.

>>38690249
>[ ] passionate "cooking lessons" with Satoko on top of you and making no effort to hold back her moans while Rika is out shopping
YES YES YES YES YES YES
https://exhentai.org/g/76453/a8ca1e711e/

>>38690295
Ryukishi claims he had Hanyuu looks mostly planned from the start, only the hair color came from Oyashiro-tan.

At the very least, the "thing" haunting Keiichi in Onikakushi is described as a young girl several times.

>>38690162
There's no question in my mind that Meguri will lead the story to its ending better, even if the ending state was to remain functionally identical. (Satoko stays in Hinamizawa with Satoshi, SSR Teppei and everyone, Rika goes to Lucia, Hanyuu makes Eua fuck off.)

>Then in the end she gets to retreat to Hinamizawa without really learning anything
I really thought that was okay.

>>38690347
I wonder if it's possible to masturbate to that scene.

>>38690344
It's my favorite just because of this part.

>>38690385
Remember what he took from you

>>38690347
>Ryukishi claims he had Hanyuu looks mostly planned from the start
Ryukishi has lied before, so you can't trust anything he says.

>>38690418
But it was fairly obvious from Onikakushi on that Hanyuu was going to be something like a creepy little meeper.

>>38690449
How did you know what Hanyuu was in Onikakushi?

>>38690295
This one certainly captures the spirit of Hanyuu.
What a dumb and useless creature.

>>38689947
Understandable. I'm feeling extra lazy today.

>>38690472
Because it literally opens up with some retard repeating gomenasai over and over again?

>>38690385
Name? My sadpanda isn't working.

>>38690493
Look at the question again, ESL anon.

>>38690472
Of course we didn't know Oyashiro-tan's name was going to be Hanyuu. But it was going be a little girl related to the Furude bloodline. So, a creepy little meeper--or something like that.

>>38690518
Anon knew.

>>38690502
I answered the question, please don't throw buzzwords like ESL if you don't know what they mean.

>>38690541
You didn't answer it, actually, how did you know what "hanyuu" was before you even started the question arcs?
>please don't
Ironic coming from the anon who has zero reading comprehension when it comes to English.

>>38690528
I think Anon is a pretty cool guy eh. Knows Hanyuu and doesnt afraid of anything

>>38690566
I wish I was an epic Hanyuu knower, too. I wonder what's the secret...

>>38690347
I suppose it's possible that he only took the hair color from Oyashiro-tan to use in Hanyuu but even if he had already decided on a horned girl there's also the cute demeanor and the miko outfit.

>>38690385
Why did I crop that? It's not as cute without the first panel. Please forgive me for my Hanyuu moment.

>>38690364
The ending is supposed to be different too, based on one of Tomato's posts last December, and I'd say this page pretty much rules out Meguri just ending on the same note Sotsu did.

Although there are many different ways that could go.

>Completely different ending for both witch and human plots
>Witch stuff is the same, but human side is different
>Mostly the same ending in rough lines, but we get some kind of timeskip afterwards and that's the actual ending.

>>38690561
You sure love putting words into other peoples' mouths, huh. Let me spell it out:
>How did you know what Hanyuu was in Onikakushi?
doesn't literally mean
>How did you know what the character named Hanyuu was in Onikakushi?
It was obvious there was some supernatural element involved from the start, which we later confirmed was Oyashiro also known as Hanyuu. "Hanyuu" as a catch-all for that entity is what I was referring to. Either you are deliberately obtuse and therefore an example of the cancer that has killed /a/ or you are genuinely retarded, in that case I hope you kill yourself like you have already killed /a/ for your own sake. Hau-au~

>>38690726
>"Hanyuu" as a catch-all for that entity is what I was referring to.
Funny, Hanyuu refers to a rather specific thing, anon.
You just misread the sentence, it's ok, many ESL people do that. No need to make up shit about /a/, go back there if you want people to not care about how silly you are.
>doesn't literally mean
It does, though.

>>38690726
Being obtuse is the easiest way to annoy people. Your first mistake was trying to argue with a guy who declared you an ESL from the beginning.

>>38690726
>no let me tell you what your post actually meant

>>38690647
My guess is that the ending is going to be somewhat similar, unless Tomato extends it past Sotsu's ending point. The main difference would be how Satoko and Rika reach that point and what their thoughts are.

Going by what we have of Meguri right now, Satoko probably has to figure out a set of actions that lead to Satoshi's recovery instead of it just randomly happening in the good end. And no other random accidents. The question is how Tomato is going to tie Gou into this. Will Eua just tell Satoko that the queen carrier wanting to leave Hinamizawa is why everything's goes sideways?

>>38690835
everything goes*

>>38690835
>Satoko probably has to figure out a set of actions that lead to Satoshi's recovery
God damn does she not deserve this
How would she even do that

>>38690787
>Funny, Hanyuu refers to a rather specific thing, anon.
Oh okay I get it you are not an ESL larping as a fluent English speaker, you just haven't passed middle school yet. Sorry for the confusion anon, I'll stop responding with concepts you don't understand so you can go back to your homework.

>>38690851
I told you earlier that Meguri is going to be much more painful than Sotsu.

>>38690869
Just admit it, man, it's ok. Hanyuu is Hanyuu.

>>38690851
Make Rika have sex with comatose Nii-nii until the magic alien brainbugviruses calm down!

>>38690873
Sure, everything could be more painful than Sotsu, unless you count the weird pain you get from laughing too much as regular ol' pain.

>>38690851
Kill the Eua.

>>38690873

mommy eua

>>38690978
Eua could easily seduce Satoko.

>>38690851
Have Irie do a "My name is Buck, and I'm here to fuck" on Satoshi.

>>38690992
She could easily seduce anyone.

>>38690993
Damn...hot and cruel.
>>38691008
Couldn't seduce Hanyuu.

>>38686312
bless this jess

>>38690991
daughteru eua

>>38690993
Irie is asian

>>38691031
Silly Eua and Hanyuu daughterus bonking their horns together, falling down and laughing (Hanyuu does cry a bit, it hurt her....).

>>38686941
what a cute pair of completely ordinary siblings who you could be friends with

beatrice!

>>38691071
>no visible feet
why they do that?

>>38691104
It is sometimes necessary to crop them out to avoid degenerate thoughts.

>>38691104
Why would they make them visible?

>>38691121
nigger

>>38691134
Oh no. Now you're done it.
Satoko's bare feet...

>>38691104
Depraved fetish. The feet are one of the most disgusting parts of the human body. Always exposed to dirt, dust, sweat, bacteria and feces. Horrible odors and susceptible to diseases and develops foot fungus and deformities. None of this is erotic unless you're an absolute degenerate that gets off to literal filth.

>>38690835
I think what we'll get is Satoko deciding she needs to control everything so an accident can't happen, mirroring Takano's resolution. Then Rika will keep getting in her way due to the 100 years making her hard headed, which is what will lead to Satoko deciding she needs to break her will, thus Gou.

However, I can't see the ending just going back to Satoko letting Rika go since that already happened. Even if the new "curse" gets all blamed on Eua and it disappears when she leaves it wouldn't really make sense thematically to just repeat something that already happened before.

>>38690125
I like saying the correct thing when the other post is wrong. As it’s the truth.
Shitty goat.

Dead franchise. Dead threads.
Shitposters in abundance. Just stop making these threads.

HOLD ON A SECOND
WERE THOSE.....SATOKO'S FEET
WAWAWEEWAAAAAAAAAA I AM LOSING CONTROL AGAIN

>>38691145
should have done that earlier.
>>38691154
be careful or you may get sick from a digital picture of a fictional character.

>>38691154
>feet
>exposed to feces
Rika stepping on Satoko's poop

>>38691154
>Always exposed to dirt, dust, sweat, bacteria and feces
Normal people don't expose feet to these things.

Ryukishi should have stopped writing after finishing Hinamizawa bus stop.

>>38691211
You're missing the point fucktard

>>38691236
look at that fucking tallka
my god
why

>>38691227
A daily occurrence in the Hojo residence.

>>38691236
>big Rika
>that Mion outfit
goodness

>Mion tells Rika she's carrying her child
>Rika immediately Falcon punches her womb

Based as fuck!

Worst 07th expansion general thread ever it’s just totally unrecoverable and it’s just generally shit. Now it’s just hideous perverts and pointless feet posters who have completely unsolvable shitposting issues. I’m never coming back this is just totally fucking fucking bad. I’m out forever. New rock bottom. Absolutely over. It’s over.

>>38691240
I don't give a shit retarded faggot

>>38691259
I got tired of posting ΒIG stuff, plus it seemed to bother other anons a lot...Glad to see that we are still here.

>>38691278
>>38691198
good. don't come back.

>>38691297
Disgusting foot fetishist

>>38691260

>>38689780
>kanon keeps beating out shannon after the first and keeps tying/near-tying with jessica
it's kinda like pottery

>>38691281
You're the one who is a retarded faggot resorting to ad hominem arguments because you can't accept the fact that you're a failed human being with degenerate fetishes revolving around women's feet.

Erika was fat.
Umineko is just based on Hispanic soap operas.

>>38691314
A world where Mion can act girly and Rika isn't a flatty

>>38691319
I blame Jooji for this.

>>38691339
Umineko was a reference to the Agatha Christie classic story "Ten Little Niggers"

>>38691278
looks like anon cant handle the feet,weak

>>38691356
No.

Battler Blanco

George Gordo

Beatriz Dorada

El hecho de que Angelica tiene un culo es simplemente increible! Ella es tan hermosa y ruda! Sin embargo! A pesar de ello! Ella tiene un culo! Patetico! Humillante! Perverso! La condicion humana de Angelica Ushiromiya!

Satoko Puberta

Hanyuu Fantasma

Leonardo Mamadisimo

Ricardo Punido

Bernarda Modo Gato

>>38691156
It would be beautiful if Satoko and Rika realize their mistakes, the root cause of all this suffering and team up to take Eua down.
Fundamentally the same plot as the anime, but better execution than Hanyuu just leaving Rika to go and lose to Eua while the witches temporarily get bored of fighting.

>>38691344
god i wish battler really do that to him

>>38691343
Perfection.

>>38691104
feet are hard to draw please be kind

feetoko

>>38691253
What is Rika doing there?
Why is the toilet clogged?
Why is she stepping on it?

>>38691398
That assumes footfags care about the quality of the feet.

>>38691376
An actual team up against Eua would be a great addition. Heck, summon the club too rather than the lame meaningless name call outs from Hanyuu in the anime. Obviously you'd need more time to show that, but if the manga doesn't waste tons of chapters on retreading the Damashi there should be enough space for that.

>>38691417
Bold of you to assume that she's near a toilet. Satoko needs more potty training.

>>38691343
Should she even be acknowledged as Mion if she's just completely different from main series Mion in just about every aspect?
At least Bus Stop Rika is recognizable as a prototype Rika, but Mion was completely rewritten for Higurashi proper.

>>38691408
"Rika, I'm going to shove my fingers inside you like this."

>>38691424
Did footfags rape your mom's feet?

Stop posting feet. This is a discussion thread about that stuff by a hack.
Not an anime feet thread. Shameful. You get angry about shitposters going off-topic but the whole thread is derailed by this trash.

>>38691454
This, but Kimiyoshi, her canon love interest.

more feetoko

>>38691072
Made for big Julius cock, feels weird seeing an RZ poster here

>>38691487
The feet on top left are from an idolmaster girl not Rika.

>>38691429
O-oh.
These two poor girls don't have it easy. Now I understand why they had to go to toilet together.

>>38691514
it's from an edited picture where i shooped in rika's eyes actually since that character is pretty much a rika expy

>>38691514
Thank you king autist foot recognizer. Your great feet detective powers are wasted here while there are feet still out here unidentified. Go now for the good of the world.

>>38691517
Rika wets her bed, how embarrassing. Satoko has to clean it all up.

>>38691514
>>38691525
Damn idols masquerading as cicadas...

>>38691551
Weird legs and feet.
I know this is a foot general so I need to point it out.

I’m filtering all feet related words.
This will hide 90% of the posts. Worth it.

>>38691600
Sex with sperg.

Fοot. Owned.

>>38691610
Sex with sperg

auauau

>>38691549
What a waste. Satoko wasn't awake to dri--clean it as it happened.

Anata...

>>38691667
I think Satoko likes cleaning Rika often, she was just tired from a previous cleaning session they had during the day!
jesus christ what the fuck am I doing

>>38691453
Proto-Mion was more like a lesbian Shion than anything, with how unhinged, ballsy and unrestrained she was especially the vengeful killer part.

Would you satisfy Hanyuu's desires using Rika's body?

Ryukishi might be dead but this thread is not acceptable. His vengeful spirit will rise from the grave and torment you.

>>38691453
Proto-Mion wasn't Mion (Shion) nor Shion (Mion), she was Mion (birth Mion)

>>38691700
>>38691757
It's funny how Prototype Mion clearly inspired Higurashi's Shion and Satoko, but Mion was basically an entirely new character, except that maybe their personalities can be considered vaguely similar, but not in any clearly recognizable ways.

>>38691773
Satoko how?

>>38691757
A fragment where Rika and birth Mion were born at the same time, Rika wasn't a spoiled princess and birth Mion was gay. Also Irie has a different name and is evil. Actually, wasn't Irie originally planned to be the bad guy of Higurashi?

>>38691454
>>38691475
Satoko x Kazuho yuri when?

>>38691793
Kazuho is the console arc writer's self insert and here he is pairing her with whoever the fuck he wants.

>>38691773
Yeah, it's funny how Ryuukishi turned Mion into a different character and only later decided to bring aspects of Bus Stop Mion back in Shion.
But what's that about Satoko?

Day 219 of praying for RGD adaptation.

This thread smells

>>38691789
Bus Stop Mion's family is poor and supported the dam, and she's Rika's best (and only) friend. Her having the parasite is also something that could apply to both Shion and Satoko.
Satoko is obviously still very different in lots of ways, but it's definitely possible to view Bus Stop Mion as a prototype Satoko in some aspects.

>>38691822
He probably means that proto-Mion's family situation is more similar to Satoko than Mion's actual family stuff in Higurashi

>>38691826
Oh you can smell that? Sorry Satoko really wanted to do it.

>>38691824

>>38691819
>Kazuho is the console arc writer's self insert
So that's why she is a bigger dork than even Hanyuu.

>>38691838
Satoko also had that whole bit about her not just being another infected, but a special specimen somehow. Although that never goes anywhere aside from resulting in her disappearing in some fragments rather than having a confirmed death.

>>38691819
To be fair Rena will lust after anything that breathes.