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be sure to read John's religion/story
>How I got 180/180 on N1 in ~8.5 Months!
https://rentry.org/9pe4o

But essentially what John's method religion IS:

* Start reading every day (and listening)
* Go through a grammar guide (like Tae kim)
* Go through a common vocab deck (like core2.3k)
* Mine stuff into Anki that you encounter in your Japanese media

A detailed guide of what John did can be found on
https://pastebin.com/0ANbbfHR

*John Bless your gains

>> No.38664896
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thank you John!

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yea japanese is cool but penguins are cooler

>> No.38665140

>>38664818
based John

>> No.38665146

>>38665114
dame theyre so white and cute and fluffy!!! (((((*^o^*)

>> No.38665162
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忘れないで
https://streamable.com/e1vuxm

>> No.38665196

Question. Pic-related is from a a character affinity chart. In it's text 「口は悪いが,その分好き勝手言い合える中」, what is the meaning of 中? I am not familiar with it being used at the end of a phrase like this. Does it mean "at the same time" here? Or is it a mistype of 仲 "relationship"?

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>>38665196
Woops, forgot the pic (although I already included the text)

>> No.38665222
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stop wasting your time with japanese son.

>> No.38665228

>>38665222
this is what bunko actually believes dating a hag will be like

>> No.38665234

Is there an easy way to tell whether 無 is ぶ or む?

>> No.38665255

>>38665234
読み分けのルールのようなものはありませんが、ほとんどは「ム」と
読むので、「ブ」と読む語を覚えればよろしいかと思います。無事・
無難・無礼・無精・無粋・無骨者・無礼(講)・無頼漢・無聊などでしょ
うか。

>> No.38665258

>>38665196
wheres the pic?
>>38665202
oh it means (inside the 合える) (the 勝手言いpart), this is, whomever doesnt get to katte ii whatever the fuck they want at all times, but only then

>> No.38665264

>>38665234
yeah you can learn japanese
>>38665255
good post

>> No.38665280

>>38665255
that sucks

>> No.38665284

>>38664818
Current thread: #3171

Previous threads:
>>38654506 #3170
>>38645062 #3169

>> No.38665295

>japanese friend didn't know what ここいら was
this is your average japanese college graduate

>> No.38665331

>>38665295
>ここいら
>BCCWJ2 Freq: 94.2

>> No.38665334

>>38665295
what makes you think we know what it means tho

>> No.38665342
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38665342

What JRPG are you playing right now, /djt/?

>> No.38665344

>>38665295
acquired 此処いら

>> No.38665352

>>38665342
elden souls
wait thats not out
life waster simulator japanese language ed

>> No.38665373

>>38665334
you DO know japanese don't you?

>> No.38665375

>>38665342
Is that a real sword

>> No.38665379

>>38665373
y..yeah haha...

>> No.38665384

does jamal still come here

>> No.38665386

>>38665342
what was she wearing before that she felt like that "armor" would be better

>> No.38665398

>>38665386
its magical

>> No.38665446

>>38665384
No and good riddance. Now if only we could get the twenty-year-old cringe poster to leave these threads would be perfect.

>> No.38665459

>>38665446
does moe and quiz still come here

>> No.38665465

>>38665459
who? its an anonymous message board

fuck off to reddit

>> No.38665470

sage goes in all fields

>> No.38665475

only person who still comes here is anacreon and he hasn't done so since march god bless his soul

>> No.38665492

>>38665228
nah i dont want to be rude to her

>> No.38665511

>>38665492
your mere existence is rude

>> No.38665521

>>38665511
what is it like typing with your monitor off?

>> No.38665523

>>38665511
why does obasan like me so much then

>> No.38665535

who is this guy who constantly talks about a monitor being off and what does he mean by those comments?

>> No.38665560

>>38665475
next month is march, you psycho

>> No.38665571

>>38665535
its a low effort reply to low effort bait noting that the post in question better applies to its poster

re: some tard calling bunko rude when bunko hasn't done anything rude is rude itself

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38665585

75% again

>> No.38665594

>>38665584
dame i love koone
>>38665585
debunked, thats 76

>> No.38665604

>>38665571
namefagging without a good reason and across multiple threads and for every post is considered rude according to well-established 4chan etiquette

>> No.38665607

>>38665604
true true

>> No.38665613

>>38665258
Can you rephrase? I am not understanding what you mean by "inside the 合える".

>> No.38665614

Any good language exchange webpages or apps to practice?

>> No.38665629

>>38665604
dame, you are correct, however i didn't make the monitor post, i was merely explaining what it means, i do agree everyone should be anon, keep up the good work

>> No.38665644

>>38665613
what does 合える mean anon?

>> No.38665646

>>38665614
hellotalk
decent amount of people who want to learn english on skypech and a lot who will just talk to you in japanese and be patient

>> No.38665658

>>38664818
do any of you guys play vinnies outside?

>> No.38665668

>>38665613
it doesn't matter, the naka is just delineating a duration/condition

>> No.38665671

>>38665644
言い合える means "can talk with each other"

>> No.38665672

remembered this
https://youtu.be/Km9-DiFaxpU?t=256

>> No.38665686

>>38665614
you better be able to at least understand anime without subtitles or pausing before you do that

>> No.38665690

>>38665658
whats outside mean?
>>38665668
whats the part you don't understand then? you have all the pieces, just whirl it in your head a bit

>> No.38665717

>>38665690
>whats the part you don't understand then?
You are talking to the wrong guy. He was responding to me who was the asker.

>you have all the pieces
I didn't have all the pieces because I didn't understand what 中 meant in the sentence, although his responses gives me an idea a bit

>> No.38665729

>>38665717
yes that last post was for you sorry misclick, anyway naka means inside

>> No.38665734

i don't always naka but when i do, its dashi

>> No.38665774

>>38665114
Japan is now Cruel Japan:

https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/travel-bans-turn-cool-japan-into-cruel-japan/

>> No.38665779

Hide your heart from sight,
Lock your dreams at night,
It could happen to you.
Don't count stars
Or you might stumble,
Someone drops a sigh
And down you tumble,
Keep an eye on spring,
Run when church bells ring.
It could happen to you
All I did was wonder
How your arms would be
And it happened to me

>> No.38665790

>>38665779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e6Hj7MwWaI

>> No.38665793

>>38665774
GIEV MANKO OR GIEV DEATH

>> No.38665802

>>38665774
obasan said she looked it up and you cant leave japan as a native rn

>> No.38665809

>>38665790
https://youtu.be/HTKMfvuL2D0

>> No.38665811

crazy how it’s possible to give someone yummy feelings over the internet

>> No.38665813

>>38665774
when i think about all those prime jks going to waste with no chance of meeting horny gaijin tourists it breaks my heart

>> No.38666017

>>38665690
outside your house on a laptop

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yoshi
time for today's hell

>> No.38666050

>>38664818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkS5APqAFHA

>> No.38666185

>>38666030
just stop learning japanese bro

>> No.38666196

why does core2.3k have a bunch of identical hiragana cards but with different definitions on the back? why not merge them into one card?

>> No.38666222

Booted up my old Playstation today and discovered my original disc reader has officially given up the ghost. Bad day.

>> No.38666225

>>38666185
just stop doing anki bro

>> No.38666237

>>38666222
ps1 is one of the few systems you can still easily fix, just buy the part off ebay, in most of them you just need a screwdriver kit
im not sure it even has odd screws like the nintendo ones but its been years since i fucked with one

>> No.38666238

I've got nothing against Jazzy herself as a person (and don't know jack about Doth for better or worse).

It's just that their post, and the whole fallout of it, brought literally nothing to the table for me other than a resounding bout of disappointment in myself. She didn't use new strategies or figure out The Trick to Japanese. She just did what most people seem to do - study, immerse in native content that interests you, take notes, review - but to an insane, borderline superhuman level of dedication. The takeaway is "study 6 hours a day, every day, for a year, and you can do it", and... no. Can't, won't. So the actual takeaway is "you're a failure that refuses to put in the effort", my words, not theirs.

Couple that with their newfound minor celebrity status, and this sub not being useful to me in a LONG time beyond all the drama and meta discussions, and I'm probably better off just peacing out and continuing my studies by myself.

>> No.38666249

who

>> No.38666253

>>38666249
moe you forgot your name...

>> No.38666255

>>38666196
what are you talking about?

>> No.38666261

>>38666237
Yeah, I know it is an easy fix but I took a lot of pride in the good condition of my system and the fact I have never replaced a part for it despite being one of the older models. It marks the beginning of a sad new chapter

>> No.38666280

I know that's a reddit post but I have to make sure everyone knows that studying six hours a day is in no way "superhuman."

>> No.38666289

>>38666280
it's that low because jazzy is also a full time student and had a job.
jazzy actually did 12 hours a day on weekends, that's superhuman

>> No.38666335

>>38665802
your obasan is literally retarded then lol
its against the japanese constitution to prevent citizens from leaving. all they can do is impose quarantine on your arrival
https://www.anzen.mofa.go.jp/covid19/pdfhistory_world.html
you can go on to JALs website and buy flights from tokyo right now

>> No.38666336

>>38665585
I'm new with Anki, how do you view the days stats?

>> No.38666339

>>38665774
t. 害人

>> No.38666343

>>38666261
meh be grateful it lasted so long, ps1's were notoriously low quality
>tfw it had to be upside down to fucking read discs

>> No.38666355

>>38666280
>>38666289

i do some 8 hours a day, hqve no other hobbies, and didn't get anywhere near perfect n1 in 8.5 months, jazzy is my hero

>> No.38666362

>>38666355
you probably werent reading vinnies for 8 hours solid

>> No.38666366

>>38666355
https://streamable.com/e1vuxm

>> No.38666372

as for her, (she is) sad

>> No.38666373
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>djt in a nutshell

>> No.38666385

>>38666255
もう: already, yet
もう: another, again
よく: often
よく: well
why aren't these combined with multiple meanings listed? seems kind of retarded that i have to treat them as sentence cards, especially as a beginner who obviously won't know how to read the given sentences. if i don't treat them as sentence cards I have a 50% chance of getting it right or, if I give both answers, I have no way to verify that the 2nd answer was also correct.

>> No.38666389

>>38666373
kek
>>38666366
maybe tomorrow
>>38666362
i couldn't really read anything till like 3 months in im retarded like that, i can read essentially anything now but im like a thousand kanji under the n1 ones

>> No.38666426

>>38666335
lol bunko and his obaasan are retarded

>> No.38666432

>>38666385
didn't you read the instructions for core2.3k?

How To Use #
Install and setup Anki following these settings: https://animecards.site/ankisetup/

When reviewing cards only pass a card if you can remember the reading of the word. You should also try to recall the general meaning of the word but don’t grade yourself harshly on it, as meaning is better acquired from reading native material and not from seeing dictionary definitions. Do not worry about the example sentences, just learn the words. The sentences are there to help you learn the word but if you can’t read them then please ignore them.

>> No.38666441

>>38666385
just being aware of both meanings is enough, you'll see those words 50 times in 1 episode of anime

>> No.38666448

anacreon hasn't posted here since march bros what do we do when March rolls in?

>> No.38666454
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wow so if I study 1082 words i can bring my readability up 1%

i love japanese

>> No.38666455

>>38666448
then it will actually be true

>> No.38666457
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>> No.38666459

>>38666385
honestly id just delete all the garbage in kana, you are gonna see it all over the fucking place, too

>> No.38666468

>>38666454
morphs not words

>> No.38666492

>>38666385
making flashcards for shit like this is insane

>> No.38666493

>>38666432
what a cope, are you the person who made the deck?
you're saying that its to test reading of hiragana and not just laziness/oversight?
>>38666441
but since only one is listed, I won't know if I'm misremembering the unlisted meanings. I could edit the cards myself, but I figured that if this deck has been undergone 3 revisions, I must just be missing something

>> No.38666498

>>38666493
you don't need to flashdrone any of those words because they are so common you will see them about a hundred times a day

>> No.38666499

I said this here before but "being an adult" = "being obedient".

That's why there's a focus on youth in fiction, because when you're young, your spirit hasn't been totally broken yet.

>> No.38666501

tried to output teineigo instead of tamego and got btfod

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>>38666454
14487 morphs in this vn. i know 5419
there are 403000 morphs total
360000 of these i know
im telling morphmeister to study words from this vn under the 15000 in the frequency list
and that's only 1000 of the 10000 im missing

the rest in this vn are above the 150000 frequency

p. crazy stuff

>> No.38666514

>>38666493
>I won't know if I'm misremembering the unlisted meanings
you will when that other card shows up eventually. and like everyone else has said, those words are so common it doesn't matter. the original core6k didn't even have the sentence on the front to differentiate them, they were literally identical cards. be grateful

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day 8 complete

>> No.38666532

>>38666528
impressive

>> No.38666533

>>38666499
im an adult and my spirit hasn't been broken and likely never will

its the same for the random neet bros, even the mentally ill not well retard shithead, even the ones i don't like have spirit to spare
>>38666501
try outputting one eigo at once ten is overdoing it

>> No.38666540

>>38666493
its one of those things that doesn't matter at all, just delete em if they annoy you, those words show up almost every other sentence

>> No.38666548

>>38666528
>1.5 hours
>17 seconds a card
please don't kill yourself anon

>> No.38666552

>>38666196
cause n4creon is retarded and didn't put context on the front to separate them out. just get the tango decks cause they're made by japanese natives and professionals.

>> No.38666562

>>38666552
learn english. he said there is context on the front

>> No.38666563

>>38666548
why would i kill myself?

>> No.38666578

>>38666498
you're gonna hear almost all common words if you listen to japanese all day for a few days where is your n1 cert?

>> No.38666579

>>38666528
>17.48s/card
dude...

>> No.38666583

>>38666552
ive tried tango.
my retention is far higher but idk if thats just because the cards are easy.
i cant tell which deck is more conducive to learning.

>> No.38666587

>>38666533
you don't have any spirit if you spend hours each day in front of your computer to learn a language so you can watch cartoons lol

>> No.38666591

>>38666578
those words are below common, more like pre-common

>> No.38666596

>>38666552
this is the spammer tatsucuckhold ignore his idiocy poor fuck is a mentally ill spammer trying to scam people with his site
>>38666583
tango is trash he is trying to advertise his tsc garbage

>> No.38666607

>>38666563
you'll understand on day 108

>> No.38666611

>>38666583
of course tango is, core decks are pushed by non-beginners (who don't remember what it's like to be a beginner) and who won't benefit as much from sentence cards

>> No.38666613

>>38666583
if you think tango helps anyone look up nukemarine, hes been doing tango for like 15 years now god bless him
>>38666587
actually i do it to.maybe get jk manko one day

>> No.38666618

how good of an idea is it when memorizing a word
to also keep in your mind the scene / remember exactly in which way it was used in the scene you mined it from

like when i mine a word i tend to associate it with that place i mined it from for pretty much all words

>> No.38666619

>>38666607
>>38666579
please stop bullying me

>> No.38666626

>>38666563
hes trolling youre doing great, as you go youll just get faster is all
some people are so fast they just macro the spacebar and get like 10 cards per blink

>> No.38666634

>>38666613
nuke did core for 15 years so that's proof that core 2.3k will cripple you like it did analcrayon.

>> No.38666638

>>38666618
thats the best way to do things if you can do that, eidetic memory bros we are winning

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remember

>> No.38666642

>>38666613
wrong, the tango series books didn't even exist until 2017. nuke did core like everyone else back then.

>> No.38666647

>>38666634
who? anacreon has never even posted here youre thinking reddit
>>38666641
the rtk = based

>> No.38666653

>>38666634
no one told him to take that long though

>> No.38666658

f for nuke

not even a japanese wife could save him

>> No.38666664

>>38666641
is this supposed to mean that how you feel about stuff determines what you do?

>> No.38666692

unironically why didn't nuke just talk to his wife and the ojiisans planting vegetables in the field by his house?

>> No.38666709

>>38666583
they use different philosophies

core is aimed at you doing the least cards possible before mining, its the least vocab you can have and sorta enjoy yourself (tho things like tadoku/hukumusume dot he same thing), idea is youll get the japanese from whatever the fuck it is you actually want to read/do with the language (which for most people isn't cards)

tango is sentence cards that aim to each you japanese, through using cards, imho it doesn't work especially well because people tend to memorize the sentences (which is easy), and not the words themselves (which is harder).

honestly the hardest part of japanese is grasping the underlying logic of things (which is very different from english), and you really only do that through reading a lot of things

>> No.38666727

>>38666709
but eh the tldr is the best way to do things is deciding what words you want to know and mining them yourself, some anon is doing nagatoro for instance, something like that

>> No.38666729

>>38666692
you could be on hellotalk right now and yet you're here

>> No.38666745

>>38666664
yes exactly
most learners spend a lot of time endlessly arguing over subtle differences in approach even though the general rules of succeeding are pretty well known at this point
what's keeping people from just doing it not their plan, it's their feelings
endless theorycrafting is kind of a cope or avoidance mechanism from said feelings

>> No.38666761

nothing wrong with theorycrafting, its fun

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dno

>> No.38666784

wanna theorycraft ogs 10/10 manko so bad bros

>> No.38666792

>>38666761
yeah it can be fun to theorycraft and discuss. but when you're doing it way more than you're even reading? that's a sign its probably cope/avoidance

>> No.38666806

>>38666784
same. bet its a innie and smells awful

>> No.38666816

>>38666613
>one day
planning for the future is what people with a broken spirit do

>> No.38666818

>>38666806
wonder if putting menthos in it would help

>> No.38666823

>>38666591
post n1 cert or stfu

>> No.38666824

>>38666818
coke too

>> No.38666827

>>38666709
you have to actually read and interpret the sentence, not just look at it for .5 seconds. I've done sentence cards for a few months and haven't yet understood what people mean by 'memorizing the sentence'

>> No.38666837

>>38666827
for a few months...? you musta made it by now... r..right anon?

>> No.38666839

>>38666823
wtf are you talking about what would n1 have to do with any of this

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>>38666839
>he isn't even n1

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gonna drone 1200 n1 words in 15 days and you can't stop me

>> No.38666884

>>38666837
no, that's because of my low IQ though. if I keep at it for a few years, not just a few months, I might make it.

>> No.38666886

i consider core6k + up to n1 to be the tru core u should grind before mining desu this is a high iq move u can't convince me otherwise

>> No.38666891

>>38666862
chad as fuck

>> No.38666897

>>38666827
>I've done sentence cards for a few months and haven't yet understood what people mean by 'memorizing the sentence'
have you seriously not had any sentence that you can reel off rhythmically after hearing the audio? I don't do any Anki now but there were times when I would hear a word in immersion that I knew I'd rep'ed in Anki but couldn't remember the meaning off but I'd be able to reel off the sentence it was in and then work back to the meaning of the word

>> No.38666900

>>38666884
humblepilled and based gmi

>> No.38666917

even though im an ankidrone i respect justreadtards who don't anki at all way more than cucks who only do 5-10 words per day like wtf are you doing LMAO

>> No.38666926

>>38666862
i droned them all and i could read them but i didn't know wtf they meant when i read them in context even though i knew the dictionary definitions, took me many months to acquire the meaning

>> No.38666929

>>38666917
ankidrones read too tho

>> No.38666934

>>38666884
we are all gonna make it bro, anyway i put examples in my cards and many times i memorize the whole sentence before really even getting readings down consistently, so i rotate examples when that happens. i tried tango just when i started and im doing jalup now (which is also sentence cards) and i tend to get nothing after seeing them/understanding them once

seen other people talking about that so i don't think im a unique case, anyway do what works for you, we are all different bro

>> No.38666949

>>38666926
do you think it helped at all?

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>>38666929
we aren't ankidrones, we are ankichads using a balanced trauning regime, he just lacks the discipline necessary for maximum gains and thats okay

>> No.38666962

>>38666917
Haven't read anything in two weeks and go at a nice comfortable snail pace of 5 cards/day because fuck Anki

>> No.38666964
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started from the bottom now we here

>> No.38666977

>>38666964
>>38666962

based

>> No.38666984

>>38666949
no. you can already kinda guess many readings for n1 words so you're actually not learning anything because you don't acquire meaning from memorizing the definition in anki even if you use example sentences. like i turned on anime and got btfo'd cause i couldn't follow what they were saying and had to pause, hover over, and it was words i knew in anki and could read. but i couldn't hear them lol

i had good retention too and i didn't cheat on reviews. it was a waste of time and i would unironically learned more just by getting more input. droning is a meme

>> No.38667000

imagine meeting a girl who likes you a lot and she looks at you with adorable puppy dog eyes so you hold her cute face in your hands and give her a kiss on her forehead as a reward for being so cute and then you both get butterflies in your tummies and you know she wants more so you wrap your arms around her waist holding her tight and close to you, you stare into each others eyes until you both can't take it anymore and then lean in for the softest sexiest ディープキス, as you kiss her the butterflies grow even more and mix with a burning desire to pleasure each other and fall into sexual ecstasy together

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>>38666950
I live free like bird, you live in cage like rat. Not your deck that have leeches but your heart. You do not control Anki, it controls you.

>> No.38667009

>>38667000
only happens in fiction

>> No.38667017

false, happened to me irl

>> No.38667022

>>38667000
>you hold her cute face in your hands
lay off the anime nigga

>> No.38667040

>>38667000
dame og wait for me one day...!
>>38667022
og is just kinda small okay

>> No.38667060

>>38667022
lots of cute girls in the world bro why wouldn't you hold their face in your hands feeling her soft chubby cheeks as she smiles up at you? live a little

>> No.38667063

>>38666984
it really is a matter of time, with anki you can learn 6+ kanji a day, at the least, sure, its not the entire story and it does not replace reading, but it does supplement it greatly and ensures you do not forget what you do acquire, ever, in other words its insurance against losing progress and an steroid that boosts the rate of it

they aren't either or things

>> No.38667092

>>38667063
yeah but most n1 words use common kanji with common readings. if you just read you will see them many times. imo anki is much more useful when you want to learn irregular readings or rarer kanji, it makes each card distinctive too which helps you remember the meaning. i'm starting to see why ciaran and 4bc only added rare words. matt sorta said the same thing

>> No.38667111

>>38667092
If your goal is to memorize words you will never see again after seeing them once, then go ahead and add it to Anki
If your goal is to reinforce more common words, then Anki starts off useful as you have a low vocab count and quickly diminishes in its returns as you gain familiarity with the words through reading

>> No.38667112

>>38667092
anki lets u do it way way faster
also its ironic u grinded readings and then u say from ur pov n1 readings are easy to guess

>> No.38667114

>>38667092
>anki is much more useful when you want to learn irregular readings or rarer kanji
true
studying words in anki that you already know the readings of from other words and the meaning is obvious from the kanji + context, is overkill
its born out of some anxious assumption that you won't remember any words without anki even though chances are you totally will especially if they're of that nature

>> No.38667126

>>38667060
>why wouldn't you hold their face in your hands feeling her soft chubby cheeks as she smiles up at you?
because I'm not a 15 year old autist who thinks women are anime characters

>> No.38667130

im not adapting to this millennia well. every time someone talks about CRT i think they are talking about televisions
it is a miracle i am able to learn any japanese at all

>> No.38667135

>>38667092
>>38667111
yeah im not disagreeing, im at the stage where a lot of words i aquire after seeing em once, or you see them wrotten as kana more often than their kanji anyway (say 嘘、鞄) but...! i don't hover and i want to be able to read everything i desire in a reasonable amount of time
>>38667114
yeah agree with this too

theres also stages to things, things like say, all the 最 combinations are useful until you grasp the rule behind them, then those all can be discarded and youll never lose em (again an example, not necessarily the best)

>> No.38667138

are japanese women ok with loose skin

>> No.38667143

dude just freeze that shit off

>> No.38667151

>>38667138
turn it into a romantic sashimi dinner

>> No.38667183
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>>38667126
uh... real life girls love having that done to them bro
sorry you've never had a chance to do it

>> No.38667210

touch grass

>> No.38667212

>>38666827
if youre serious, you are very low iq lol

>> No.38667218

theres a bunch of snow outside
i cant touch any grass right now even if i wanted to

>> No.38667224

>>38667183
me with my japanese waifu one day

>> No.38667253

acquired 嘗糞

>> No.38667260

>>38667183

me with your japanese waifu before you meet her

>> No.38667270

>>38667260
noooooooo

>> No.38667294

>>38667253
acquired 嘗糞 from your post

>> No.38667300

>>38667183
>>38667224
>>38667260
me with your japanese waifu after you meet her

>> No.38667331

>>38667300
noooooooo

>> No.38667340

can't wait for my next hug

>> No.38667372

>>38667135
good example bro

>> No.38667413

wagmi

>> No.38667437
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>>38667300
dame
>>38667294
yeah its a cool word huh? figured my bros would like it
>>38667413
true true

>> No.38667441

>>38667413
全然

>> No.38667456

>>38667437
it is
i also somehow wasn't aware くそ was 糞 in kanji

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>>38664818

Read the DJT guide to git gud https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.

Previous thread: >>38654506

>> No.38667642

>>38667413
truuu

>> No.38667647

>>38666827
i can recall meanings purely based on sentence length/shape
for vocab cards if i don’t remember the meaning i immediately remember it if i see the shape of the definition sentence or based on the intonation of the speaker when they pronounce the word audio

>> No.38667665

>>38667647
let me introduce you to two useful buttons
,.

>> No.38667671

there’s a reason all the djt animecard users are autistic and racist and mia sentence card users are normies and redditors. djtfags are on the schizo/autistic spectrum and blessed (or cursed) with abnormally strong pattern recognition so they can’t use sentence cards

>> No.38667681

>>38667671
lol what

>> No.38667686

>>38667671
the pattern recognition should help them acquire languages but in reality they all seem to languish for years and years at the same level, based on your theory how is that possible?

>> No.38667692

>>38667686
nta but racist paranoid schizos don't particularly want to communicate with anyone which i imagine limits them pretty hard, id be surprised if most of the n6cels ever interacted with anyone other than their mom at tendie time and this thread

>> No.38667695

>>38667686
its because they spend too much time ruminating over imaginary problems like 'pattern recognition is bad'

>> No.38667696

>>38667671
vocab cards are about getting in and out though, autism would be more helpful for the sentence card grind

>> No.38667702

>>38667692
compare the racist paranoid schizos and the outgoing manko crew, the later is making good progress, friendly, interact with each other without flinging shit, actually have fun, and want girls

hell nagabro has the most fun of anyone and bunko is getting panties mailed while say moe spergs about whatever some random eceleb said

>> No.38667707

>>38667695
is this a じぇうじぇう reference?

>> No.38667708

>>38667707
idk what that is so no

>> No.38667712
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>>38667702
women loving bros wgmi

>> No.38667713

>>38667702
true true

>> No.38667725

i'm glad these threads have been infiltrated by higher quality people

>> No.38667741

>>38667725
true true
>>38667702
https://streamable.com/2fdhsk

>> No.38667748

what’s a good nihongo book to put on my coffee table so i can flex on my subhuman eop friends

>> No.38667768

What's the kanji/word for discipline?
躾 or 規律?

>> No.38667793

>>38667768
depends

>> No.38667939

>>38667712
dame... massive clock titties

>> No.38667979
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I'm sleepy but hey I at least read
Feels good to be slowly learning words tho

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>>38664818

Memento is a free and open source, mpv-based video player that makes studying Japanese easier with a built in popup dictionary, Anki integration, and more.

https://ripose-jp.github.io/Memento/

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What do I do about reviews stacking up, bros? Am I just too retarded? I'm still doing the core deck...

>> No.38668080

>>38668070
not sure what you were expecting

>> No.38668103

>>38668070
that's just Anki starting to feed on your soul

>> No.38668114

i was in tatsucucku m*trix group chat snd hes there telling people to spam his website on djt.

>> No.38668116

>>38668070
force urself to do <10s reps. aim for 5-6 seconds. do reps early in the morning while caffeinated. leech cards

>> No.38668118

>20s/card
just quit

>> No.38668127

>>38668116
I can't drink caffeine cause I'm sensitive to it. It knocks me out

>> No.38668153

https://youtu.be/BDJUKmgaZTU

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>>38667712
good morning

>> No.38668184
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based???

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>>38668070
just speed rush like me im prob not learning kek

>> No.38668195

>>38668184
japanese women
>men under 170cm don't deserve rights
western women
>men under 180cm don't deserve rights

and this is why, at 174cm, am going to japan

>> No.38668207

>>38668187
How do you get through so many cards so quickly? Wtf. It's like that jazzy guy that went through 50 cards in 45 minutes. I feel like I'm doing my cards wrong or something

>> No.38668210

>>38668070
immerse more in japanese contents
make up stores or shit with words you plan to learn/words that are in your deck.

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i dont use anki. simple as.

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women loving bros, what anime or dramas are you chugging?

>> No.38668222

>>38668207
post a card and I'll make fun of you

>> No.38668227

>>38668222
I'm just doing the core 2.3k deck

>> No.38668231

>>38668219
blue board

>> No.38668232

>>38668207
I take it you mean 500 in 45?

>> No.38668233

>>38668227
read more, simple as that.

>> No.38668237

>>38668227
read >2 hours per day and your problem will be solved probably

>> No.38668238

>>38668215
a real nigga surrounded by a bunch of fake ass studio gangsters

>> No.38668239

>>38668231
its from a youtube video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Ny_C5XGNQ

dame americans are prude

>> No.38668242

>>38668227
all you should be doing is seeing the word and passing or failing if you can or can't read it and meaning
like see 陰嚢
then know it's pronounced ふぐり and means a pinecone
shouldn't take more than 8 seconds and you should fail it if it takes longer than 10

>> No.38668243

>>38668232
he means 50 newly mined cards a day

>> No.38668248

>>38668237
cant read 2 hours a day. I have to look up every word, it will break my mind

>> No.38668252

50 cards a day is extremely sustainable assuming high retention and 250% ease

>> No.38668255

>>38668243
ah, that's pretty slow

>> No.38668258

>>38668242
松笠 means pinecone
dont come with your weird words here

>> No.38668261

isn't it stupid that anki starts stacking cards if you miss days? how stupid is that? you just open the program to see a million cards to do. why doesn't it just move everything forward. would make more sense.
>>38668252
that's about what I do and it's worked out

>> No.38668266

i'm a sucker for dic(tionarie)s

>> No.38668268

what's a tionarie

>> No.38668273
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>>38668195
and pic is why, at 174cm, am going to japan

>> No.38668289

lolis with really wide hips

>> No.38668293

just read the dictionary bro

>> No.38668300

>>38666335
how do i tell her this nicely lmal

>> No.38668308

>>38665802
>>38668300
she probably wanted an excuse to avoid meeting you

>> No.38668314

>>38668239
4chan has stricter rules than YouTube twitter or Instagram.

>> No.38668329

>>38668308
i mean maybe but it really does not seem that way

>> No.38668336

>>38668329
i mean she really wants to meet you but only if its hassle free for her

>> No.38668345

>>38668336
lets see

>> No.38668347

>>38666335
>its against the japanese constitution to prevent citizens from leaving.
this is a discussion we have in germany.
there's a lot of stuff in our constitution that is being violated right now but it's cool because there's a pandemic. now stop complaining or we'll call you a neo nazi covid denier

>> No.38668351

>>38666373
haha great image, where'd you get that from?

>> No.38668355
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38668355

heres what i wrote

>> No.38668362

don't ever let anons stop you from finding real love out there just be wary of the evils in this world

>> No.38668363

>>38668314
weird, the video is not even age restricted

>> No.38668391
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>>38668362
i have found real love

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>> No.38668431

A skill is only tested when you use it.
You only notice your ability when you're using it.
When you're listening and reading.

If I spent some time away from Japanese media I might forget that I can even understand it.
It would start to seem dream-like.

>> No.38668432

>>38668423
Is that THE Anacreon of djt?

>> No.38668435

>>38668355
why u apologizing thats beta

>> No.38668436

https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2020/08/tenses.html

Read this and became fluent

>> No.38668444

>>38668405
would be even cuter if a huge dangly thread of snot came out

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wheres jamal

>> No.38668449

>>38668391
Imagine her terrible Austrian accent when she speaks German

>> No.38668451

>>38668432
yes

>> No.38668452

>>38668195
にほんではちょうどもてるくらいのたかさ

それはじじつなのでしょうがない

あたしてきにはしんちょうは162まではあり

でもアポクリはむり

>> No.38668462

>>38668452
in english please
i don't want to read gaijin japanese

>> No.38668463

>>38668449
im austrian as well so i dont have to imagine
once we marry we only speak japanese though

>> No.38668482
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bathsrooms with glass doors are hot.
imagine peeping in while your sis or mom is bathing.

>> No.38668495

>>38668482
unfortunately you cant really see anything through that

>> No.38668502

https://twitter.com/caligula_zmns/status/1494697483502776322?t=ETToUR1PkeLARKINrHTBPA&s=19

>> No.38668544
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why is djt so meanie lately?....

>> No.38668555
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>>38668544

>> No.38668557

>>38668347
totalitarianism is really on the rise

>> No.38668575

>>38668207
only test the reading and glance at definition for a refresher when necessary

>> No.38668579
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>>38668544
some anons here are mentally unwell
we gotta help them be happier then the thread will be better

>> No.38668588

>>38668482
huh.
the bathroom door is locked though.

>> No.38668597

>>38668482
just buy one of those fake cameras that look like a usb smartphone charger

>> No.38668600

>>38668579
look at those feminine fingers

>> No.38668607

https://twitter.com/gambsVNs/status/1494912450885529601
amogus

>> No.38668626

>>38668600
thanks for the compliment, i take good care of them

>> No.38668659

>>38668626
wash your fucking hands monkey

>> No.38668678

>>38667671
subtle
best post in the thread

>> No.38668700

>>38668600
>be me
>thought you were referring to the girl in the drawing

>> No.38668780

https://youtu.be/jLQEJ4Tl4gA surely hiro has better things to do with his time?

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寝泊まり

>> No.38668814

>>38668785
this vibrators are overrated there are much better ones out there

>> No.38668847
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>> No.38668867

>>38668847
>1500 word essay on how that is a dreadful translation

>> No.38668873

>>38668355
lol this is sad

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>> No.38669064

>>38668873
why

>> No.38669141

>>38669064
you sound like a desperate ky nerd

>> No.38669180

unko's too low iq to be capable of self reflection

>> No.38669214

>>38669141
she knows im a virgin and she says shell teach me everything

>> No.38669219
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38669219

Penguins are cute, but gorillas are handsome and do their reps

>> No.38669243

>>38669214
she's not being serious she just wants to jerk off
you'll quickly realize nobody has the patience for that

>> No.38669266

>>38669219
it’s feet are like little hands

>> No.38669267

>>38669243
>she just wants to jerk off
that would totally suck huh

>> No.38669294

>>38669267
for you yeah because when she gets bored she'll just stop talking to you
but we know you just like to go through random npcs online and have your little ero fun for a bit lol

>> No.38669320

>>38669294
yeah you seem like a happy person

>> No.38669323

>>38669267
if you do fuck her and use condoms, make sure to get ones that fit bro. Made that mistake myself the first time. completely ruined it for me.

>> No.38669345

>>38669320
happier than someone who spends all the time cycling through random japanese people online to keep themselves from suiciding

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>>38669323
gonna try them on lmao
>>38669345
its fun and you learn japanese

>> No.38669441

>>38669381
did you meet with that student or what?

>> No.38669453

>>38669219
Hamada really put on some muscle

>> No.38669461

>>38669441
yea

>> No.38669464

>>38669461
and

>> No.38669465

>>38669464
tanosikata

>> No.38669479

>>38669465
but what happened? did you already talk about it?

>> No.38669495

>>38668785
og...

>> No.38669504

>>38669479
we just walked around went in some buildings and talked a fair bit

>> No.38669521

>>38669504
when are you meeting again?

>> No.38669553

>>38669521
idk we will probably just be friends anyway

>> No.38669571

>>38669553
*yawn* so this is the power of
>my japanese is so good and i spend all day talking to girls online
lmfao imagine being bunko and doing worse than some holotrasher who spent 1 year on japanese

>> No.38669592

>>38668423
who liked that?

>> No.38669602

>>38669571
you dont have to date every single female who talks to you

>> No.38669603
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38669603

japanese games have so much SOVL
this is why i'm learning this retarded language

>> No.38669645

>>38669553
yeah i guess online is a little easier you can just stop talking to them when you get bored and move onto a new one no need to actually try having a relationship

>> No.38669662

>>38669645
it just was not that 雰囲気
it might be next time we meet who knows

>> No.38669677

>>38669603
isn't this just some generic shmup? those games are all boring

>> No.38669685

SOVL is all about resonation
things that resonate with your SOVL might not with others

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>> No.38669752

>>38669602
or in your case any ever

>> No.38669758

>>38669752
bad english for your point

>> No.38669763

>>38669603
wow another unique shmup from japan! those games are great

>> No.38669772

>>38669758
ydke

>> No.38669775
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38669775

しつこくてごめんだけど会いたい

>> No.38669782

>>38669758
maybe all those drugs fucked up your brain to the point you can't process english anymore.

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38669792

>>38669772
i literally dont have to in any case ever you are right
thats not an insult and im high enough iq (3 digits) to see what you meant to say which is not what you said
>>38669775

>> No.38669828

>>38669792
who is pic rel

>> No.38669840

>>38669792
>i literally dont have to in any case ever you are right
you really don't know english this is crazy

>> No.38669841

>>38669792
>to see what you meant to say which is not what you said
not him,
he said
or in your case "you dont have to date any females, ever" in an abbreviated way that is acceptable english
theres no other meaning

>> No.38669847

>>38669828
obasan

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38669857

>憲法に書いてるって言ってたんや
>それなら俺に会いに来るしかないでしょう

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>調べてくれてありがと

>> No.38669896

ESLs can get well uppity about their English sometimes

>> No.38669906

15 minutes of anki
1.5 hours of writing
2 hours reading
2 hours of reading out loud

>> No.38669913

wow the ''''''asexual'''''' now is trying on condoms lmfao

>> No.38669924

>>38669913
hes practicing for when he becomes a nurse so he can sexually assault old men

>> No.38669932

年中無休のseethe無限大

>> No.38669943

>>38668180
was this drawn by a gook?

>> No.38669949

>>38669932
no need to sign your posts
btw your post is missing and only your signature is available for some reason

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>>38669949

>> No.38670021

>>38669841
>or in your case "you dont have to date any females, ever" in an abbreviated way that is acceptable english
>theres no other meaning
that's one way to understand it but it makes more sense to change don't have to to won't which is what bunko doesn't understand can happen

>> No.38670027

find a japanese woman that looks at you like nukemarine looks at peppa pig.

>> No.38670051

im saying not having to date someone is not a bad thing

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>> No.38670076

to an extent i think it’s funny seeing people dog pile on kobun, but i’m sure that if it were me (ore da to) I would be a little disheartened. don’t let ‘em break ya kobun.

>> No.38670102

the guy who prided himself on not caring about english is now attacking people over their english and without any reason whatsoever lmao

>> No.38670107

not me

>> No.38670124

>>38670076
agato
>>38670102
guess i should have said bad logic

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>>38670102

>> No.38670144 [DELETED] 

>>38668184
lmao i havent kept up on the tekken scene but good 2 see tanukana is still wrecking all the boys in every aspect

thankfully i just barely make the cut girigiri safeu lmao

>> No.38670206 [DELETED] 

>>38668607
i think i saw in another thread this guy has a yt video and hes actually the most white and virgin lookin nerd on the planet lol

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38670207

miss the days when all mc's looked like this

>> No.38670219

>>38670206
true
now it makes sense why this guys reddit posts were being spammed constantly in here

>> No.38670220

morning fap

>> No.38670228

>>38668607
yo wtf

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>>38670207
no no u got it wrong this is how he really looks and yes i miss when every mc had the hair over the eyes ftwだった

>> No.38670292

they actually did it. they added subtitles to Peppa Pig...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b62c4YNCz-M&list=PLmUQTKu_kpyHJbkug5PS1Wjpiz7t2VDu1

>> No.38670294

>>38670220
honest question anon. when you fap is it a wrap-around thumb grip, or do you go fancy and use your fingers rubbing on the underside while pressing your dick against your belly? i started doing the later a few years back when watching jav's and haven't gone back.

>> No.38670312

>>38670292
yep about to mine the shit out of this

>> No.38670313 [DELETED] 

>>38670292
i told em to watch dat fukken pigg

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>>38670292
stop stalking nuke. he's never going to respect you analcrayon.

>> No.38670332

>>38670322
0.75 speed and 3 simultaneous subs

>> No.38670335

>>38670294
normal grip

>> No.38670352

https://twitter.com/gambsVNs/status/1494383023491584004/
this is the guy who thinks hes an expert. reading his first vn?

>> No.38670360

>>38670335
missing out then. give the other way a shot. takes longer but the nut is more powerful. easier to imagine the j-girl grinding you as well.

>> No.38670371

>>38669990
いつもの女貼るなよキチゲェ

>> No.38670377
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38670377

test with anki just for reading

anything else seems redundant. even with sentences cards, all the sentences that came before and after a new word, that let ripen the proper memory are missing. this is even mentioned by tae kim (firehose method).

the reading on the other hand is the single thing you have to brute force memorize.

if you test just for reading you are ALOT faster done and can get back to true immersion like reading a novel. frustration and attention levels arent taxed as much either - its closer to the "browsing" theory that steve kaufmann propagates.

>> No.38670404

>>38670377
why don't you use it to improve that atrocious english

>> No.38670475

>>38670291
私は怖い = I am scared

彼女は怖い = I am scared because of her

私は悲しい = I am sad

彼女は悲しい = ????

Checkmate

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>>38670475

>> No.38670537

彼女は悲しい is interpreted as 彼女は悲しい(人だ)

>> No.38670546 [DELETED] 

whys this kid @ing me with some shit thatl ooks like it came out of a genki book

>> No.38670558

you wouldnt even say 彼女は怖い in that context you'd say 彼女が怖い

>> No.38670569 [DELETED] 

pretty sure theres no context to any of that bc its tiny lil genki bits lol

>> No.38670585

>>38670546
gambs got into a huge fight across the whole Internet over this sentence, including with the guy that translated metal gear and the guy that translated pokemon

https://www.twitter.com/ciconiascholar/status/1494513730725756932

>> No.38670590

minna genki

>> No.38670599

imagine being bunko he spends years of his life studying japanese for many hours each day, consuming material he believes is hard just so that he can learn more obscure vocabulary and then he comes here to try to get some validation when he finds out he spent all that time for nothing since he doesn't enjoy japanese content and instead of people singing the praises of what is his only achievement in life he finds people who have done more than he has in his 4+ years of studying and then when he can't cope with the idea he starts to cope by insane mental gymnastics like 'oh they aren't as good cause they haven't spent as much writing in basic japanese with lonely old women'. crazy

>> No.38670600

>>38667702
now say that in japanese

>> No.38670605

https://twitter.com/ShinichiKimura/status/1494625927573106692

>> No.38670608

>>38670585
based

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>>38668180
morn8ng hro

>> No.38670624

>>38670599
>consuming material he believes is hard just so that he can learn more obscure vocabulary
he just watches youtube videos of ugly teenagers doing makeup tutorials and shit wtf do you mean

>> No.38670643

>>38670605
gambs we know its you
so please stop this.

>> No.38670646

no context is the biggest cope in the japanese (non)learning community

>> No.38670647

>>38668261
never missed a day
neer will
simple as
>>38668273
dameeeee

>> No.38670658 [DELETED] 

i dont see the need 4 an argument

1 kid doesnt know japanese or what vagina feels like and plays alphabet soup with a couple bits of japanese then wrote a essay i didnt read about it

but outside of the native ppls responses that effectively say whats even ur issue try using real japanese i guess its cool he baited a bunch of other ppl who dont know japanese to say some dumb shit thati m also not gonna read

>> No.38670665

>>38670643
why would gambs post something that disagreed with him?

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>> No.38670680

>>38668432
anacreon hasn't posted in djt since march

miss im

>> No.38670698

>>38670599
>imagine being bunko
stopped reading there

>> No.38670705

gambs is the whitest guy ive ever seen and he was pretending to be black. why do whitoids do shit like this?

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>>38668444

>> No.38670717 [DELETED] 

hes whiter than me and im white

>> No.38670732

>>38670624
maybe lurk around a bit more before you make posts like this, you missed his posts posting obscure vns that were all text or how he would post about how he read whatever novel and knew everything

>> No.38670754

>>38670712
women are disgusting

>> No.38670757

>>38670732
what? a lot of vns are all text that doesn't make them hard or have obscure vocab and the novels he reads are all dumb shit for women like some ugly bitches essay collection

>> No.38670758

>>38670658
didn't read that

>> No.38670765

>>38670605
>>38670665
the problem with this is does that japanese person knows english well enough to spot the nuance that is being discussed here?

the claim is that you can claim that a person looks sad but never claim that she is feeling sadness as if you have access to her state of mind. i've seen some natives confirming this

>> No.38670766

>>38669603
great game

>> No.38670788

>>38670717
you're biracial

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how would you translate this title

>> No.38670801

yooo jamal is back

>> No.38670806

>>38670712
nose water!

>> No.38670808

>>38670789
banana hana
and rename the pink haired girl to hana

>> No.38670810

>>38670757
>a lot of vns are all text
no?
if you actually had a nonzero reading comprehension you would've noticed i said
>material he believes is hard
it doesn't mean it actually is hard because he doesn't know japanese

>> No.38670827 [DELETED] 

>>38670765
what does that have to do with japanese specifically or language in the first place lol u can say that about 100% of empirical judgments

>> No.38670828

>>38670765
>but never claim that she is feeling sadness as if you have access to her state of mind.
that's not what the english is saying either

>> No.38670831

>>38670789
bobobōbo bōbobo

>> No.38670834

>>38670810
why do you think he thinks its hard? he doesnt even read vns that are well known to be hard he just picks some random horror shit from the 90s because he thinks it has "soul" because hes mentally ill

>> No.38670847

>>38670827
not reading that either

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>> No.38670851

it's impossible to make any statement in any language because nothing can be 100% proven to be the case

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>> No.38670864

>>38670834
>why do you think he thinks its hard
because of how he talks about them, and also him saying he is beyond native and shit, stick around and you'll understand

>> No.38670867 [DELETED] 

>>38670801
someone rang me on the telly and told me the lesser quotients were wildin out again

>> No.38670880 [DELETED] 

>>38670863
link the sydclap jav

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>>38670827
you're asking so i'm going to show you
this is what is being discussed

>> No.38670893

>>38670864
ive been here for long enough to see you are just coping
the beyond native shit is obviously a joke because he likes to say weird shit that natives wouldnt say because he thinks that gives him a personality (bro im so 自在) because hes basically a child
he just reads shit he thinks is edgy (電波) not because its hard but because it reflects his own mental illnesses

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>>38670827

>> No.38670899

I'm reading Honzuki no gekokujou (after watching the 2 seasons of the anime with jp subs) while listening to the audiobook.
Congratulate me i have no friends.

https://files.catbox.moe/u1onk6.png

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>>38670827
>>38670896

>> No.38670921

>>38670850
interesting. I have heard (read) some people say that people whose native language(s) normally use pronouns like "I" explicitly are subsequently more selfish than those whose native language normally omit these pronouns - but I always thought that was bullshit. (maybe some are more selfish, but I don't think it's because they happen to explicitly say "I" and the like when speaking)

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>>38670827
https://nakaii.hatenablog.com/entry/20131021/1382341421

>> No.38670954

it's funny that gambs randomly stumbled upon this piece of linguistic trivia in an (english) translation studies textbook and it made him feel so autistically powerful that he had to spam 4 different websites with it
i think continuing to read his first vn would have been a better use of time

>> No.38670974 [DELETED] 

>>38670881
ah so it was shit out of an english textbook what a shocker

well lets use some real japanese to express the thought that is supposedly inexpressible

彼女は落ち込んでいる

wow used the same syntax as the textbook even i must be a genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clA9oUqlSmM#t=87

>> No.38670978

>>38670915
again with gambs shit... i have reported you

>> No.38671005

>>38670974
if you search for "彼女は落ち込んでいる" on google all the results use some evidentiary expression like ""彼女は落ち込んでいるようです" though

>> No.38671006

>>38670352
>looking up 饗宴
yep he's a scrub opinions disregarded

>> No.38671012

https://www.4channel.org/feedback

>> No.38671015

>>38670954
so what if it's in english? explain to me how it being in english makes it wrong. the problem with translations is finding an equivalent that sounds natural and encompasses everything that is said in the original which is irrelevant if we're talking about talking ABOUT a language because you go into detail about what's happening in a sentence, you're still dealing with japanese but you're getting a full analysis of what's happening . i don't understand why you have trouble understanding this, og.

>> No.38671020 [DELETED] 

>>38671005
ask as many japanese ppl as u want what they think when they see it

>> No.38671038

>>38670899
congrats anon (((((*^o^*)/

>> No.38671042

>>38671015
im not reading all that
my only point is that gambs is an autistic retard who is basically a beginner (see >>38671006) and its funny that he got all high and mighty because he saw something that he didnt know in a textbook and wanted to pretend hes an exprt because of it

>> No.38671043

>>38670974
>sadはもちろん、悲しいという意味だけれど、「彼は悲しい」なんて、第三者が言えるはずはない。

https://nakaii.hatenablog.com/entry/20131021/1382341421

>> No.38671047

>>38670974
>彼女は落ち込んでいる
that's not a psych predicate

>> No.38671070

>>38671043
the very fact that they are saying you cant say it backs up jamals point, which is that the accepted meaning of that statement is "she is sad". if it meant something else you wouldnt need a disclaimer because it would be obviously that meaning
which means you can say it because fuck the rules

>> No.38671074

>>38670292
holy shit, maybe n4creon can finally make it to n3creon. i wanna believe.

>> No.38671081 [DELETED] 

>>38671043
so this isnt about functional use of language its about some nerd technicality that has no application in functional language use regardless of the language lol

u should prolly learn to recognize the difference between conceptual ideas and a uniquely japanese issue lol its the hallmark of a beginner in this case i would say and frankly u love to see it

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>>38670974
>shit out of an english textbook
it's from a linguistic journal, it's written by a native jp person

>> No.38671089

>>38671047
yes it is lol

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loving the energy

>> No.38671106

>>38671081
>so this isnt about functional use of language its about some nerd technicality that has no application in functional language
wrong. For 悲しい it probably wouldn't matter because these are unnatural and contrived sentences. It's important to get the general rule though.

私は怖い = I am scared

彼は怖い = He is scary (NOT "He is scared")

This is really important actually because this is a mistake L2 learners could feasibly make

>> No.38671112

>>38670896
why are you posting this dekinai?
he doesnt know japanese
his arugument is stupid

>> No.38671121 [DELETED] 

>>38671106
what if we kept ur entire post here the same and put 彼も怖い what say u now

>> No.38671125

>>38671106
https://twitter.com/ShinichiKimura/status/1494625927573106692
>He is scared: 彼は([何かが])怖い

>> No.38671134

>>38671020
No native Japanese person has said that he is wrong, as a matter of fact many are agreeing with him:

https://twitter.com/mochiey/status/1493805245205565441

https://nakaii.hatenablog.com/entry/20131021/1382341421

https://twitter.com/Misako74620561/status/1493958944095555585

>> No.38671142

i was watching an anime earlier and the girl starting shaking in front of a man
he didn't say "are you scared"

he said
"私が怖い?"

>> No.38671146

>>38671134
>>38671125
theres one right there

>> No.38671166

whats happening

>> No.38671180

tons of natives said he was wrong actually, almost every native who was asked who was 悲しい in 彼女は悲しい said 彼女 not the 話者
his entire argument that natives understand the meaning as the latter, otherwise its just linguistic trivia

>> No.38671189

>>38671142
he wouldn't be stating anything though, he's asking for her to express her own feelings of if she is scared so he doesn't break the wa by assuming her inner state

>> No.38671196

>>38671180
>his entire argument that natives understand the meaning as the latter
no it's not

>> No.38671205 [DELETED] 

>>38671166
i rly dont know apparently someones been poppin off around the nihongo nonlearning sphere about some stupid shit that isnt uniquely japanese and misses the point of i guess how in japanese u dont need to specify urself with a pronoun most of the time to say things as they pertain to u and how u feel or whatever ? lol

>> No.38671209

>>38670712
cute

>> No.38671228

>>38671180
as for me, i saw natives saying that they interpret that 彼女 is 悲しい but they see the sentence as an omission 彼女は悲しい(人だ)

i think this detail improved my understanding of japanese

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>>38671196
yes it is, heres his original post
the only way that it can mean what he said is if natives actually understand it to mean that, that's what language is.
if what im saying to you right now "technically" means something completely different then we would be entirely unable to communicate and there would be no language

>> No.38671239 [DELETED] 

most of japanese is literally left unsaid its a telepathic language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK4JKzQs3Uw#t=760

>> No.38671253

>>38671228
well heres 3 natives unambiguously saying (without any loaded question stuff like on twitter) that they interpreted it as 彼女は悲しい気持ちになっている which is the same as the english meaning

>> No.38671257

also on reddit, a native said that if he reads a sentence like
母は悲しい
it sounds to him like a mother is scolding her child

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>>38671228
>>38671253
forgot my image

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>>38671265
>>38671235

>> No.38671302

>>38671235
this is his full explanation

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/stg8te/you_are_misunderstanding_the_sentence_%E6%AF%8D%E3%81%AF%E6%82%B2%E3%81%97%E3%81%84/

he's talking about an idea in japanese linguistics. the example they use is an unnatural sentence but should still follow the same rules. however because the example is so contrived and unnatural it leads many natives to interpret the sentence as being a typo of some sort so they don't actually try to figure out what it means in its own

>> No.38671354

Is there a general rule for nominalization of words that can be nouns or suru verbs?

For example: 帰国することに決めました。

Can't you just say 帰国に決めました ?

If so, what is the nuance/rule for using the noun itself, or adding する + nominalizing suffix?

>> No.38671360

>>38671302
he's talking about something that has no actual relevance to the language and isnt actually a consideration when people are given such a sentence
>The sentence 母は悲しい does not mean "My mother is experiencing sadness." It actually means "My mother makes me sad."
this is clearly wrong because no natives would ever interpret it in that way. languages are not rules. linguistics is used to describe language not say you cant say anything.
if almost every japanese person immediately understands 彼女は悲しい at first impression to mean this >>38671265 (as they do) then that's what it means & that's how language works & the "rules" (aka the description of the language) are outdated

>> No.38671376 [DELETED] 

>>38671257
yah its proof that what she witnessed was a non japanese playing word soup with japanese lol and missing the point of the book he read it in

effectively getting trolled by a japanese linguist i guess

>> No.38671405

>>38671376
how does this not prove the point too (that is unnatural to talk about other people's state of mind directly)?

>> No.38671410

do not
care

>> No.38671417

i mean, if it's unnatural then of course the engineered sentences to make a point will sound weird to japanese people

>> No.38671430 [DELETED] 

>>38671405
im gonna say 彼女はハッピー as much as i want and it means exactly what it says get bent nerd LOL

>> No.38671457

>>38671417
its unnatural because speaking about other peoples state of minds directly in japanese has never been part of the language, however gambs extends this linguistic fact (an observation of the language) to make a claim that is not true, which is that therefore any sentence that does this must be interpreted as if it's talking about the speakers state of mind, when in real japanese this isn't the case and native speakers simply just feel that it's an unnatural sentence for some reason while grasping the intended meaning (a description of another persons state of mind)

>> No.38671474

>>38671360
>has no actual relevance to the language
they understand it but they say it sounds weird so IT IS relevant.
that means you're doing something weird with the language.

>> No.38671476

彼女は俺様のチンボ舐めてんだぜ

>> No.38671477

>>38671430
This sentence cannot mean "My mother is experiencing sadness" because in Japanese, you cannot speak directly about the internal mental states of others; you can only say other people "seem" to be feeling a certain way (母は悲しがっている、母は悲しそう).

>> No.38671487 [DELETED] 

lets not forget ive also said japanese ppl have problems with interpersonal relationships and such bc of their gay language many times like its baked into how they think and communicate lmao programmed to be fucked from the getgo

>> No.38671500 [DELETED] 

>>38671477
>>38671121

>> No.38671508

>>38671487
jamal youre so wise

>> No.38671531 [DELETED] 

ill add a new challenger to the mix to really spice it up

"私達は怖かった"

come at me nihongo nonknowers lets see if u can still spew ur nonsense now

>> No.38671537

>>38671500
that doesn't change the rules

>> No.38671547

i'm fapping to sdde-578 while you guys discuss this

>> No.38671548

finna read
*boots up djt*

>> No.38671554

>>38668405
this fake ass cutesy act is so fucking annoying

>> No.38671556

>>38670599
while you were writing that i was on a phone call with obasan and she said オマンコいっぱい食べて while touching herself

>> No.38671560 [DELETED] 

there is no rule ur making up an idea that theres a rule

its the same shit like in english where someone tells u what u are and u respond what r u a mind reader ?

its the same shit its not a rule u dont know japanese and shouldnt be reading linguistic books written in english about a language u do not know bc u cannot be trusted to interpret it correctly

simple as

>> No.38671562

>>38671556
how did the air taste?

>> No.38671569

>>38671189
>>38671142
he's saying "am I scary?" kowai can be also a descriptor of appereance, it's not always a descriptor of feeling

>> No.38671576

>>38671474
the claim thats being made about the language is essentially trying to make an equation out of 2 different facts about japanese (that you dont speak about other peoples feelings directly, and that japanese is an egocentric language) that results in a 'technically' correct proposition by the observed rules of the language that sentences like 彼女は悲しい must therefore refer to the speakers feelings
when in reality japanese people aren't doing this kind of grammatical algebra in their head when they come across sentences like this, they just feel it's weird for the former reason, but because "feeling weird" is just "seeing something that they havent encountered in the language" they aren't actually applying any rules at all (because they dont know them) and don't come to the conclusion that it means what linguists think it "should mean"

>> No.38671577

>>38671560
>its the same shit its not a rule u dont know japanese and shouldnt be reading linguistic books written in english about a language u do not know bc u cannot be trusted to interpret it correctly
tired of this retarded nonsequitur

>> No.38671584 [DELETED] 

>>38671577
tired of u not knowing japanese write all future commentary on this topic in japanese or u do not know japanese and are not qualified to have any further opinions have a nice day

>> No.38671590

why does jamal go into discussions if all he's going to do is shit on the floor and act like a clown?

>> No.38671593

it feels like a thread full of 4bbcs and 1 jamal

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>> No.38671604 [DELETED] 

i was right on every point i made and the scrubs can now only cope simple as
theres also another guy who seems to understand as well

>> No.38671612

>>38671584
stop replying to me. i'm tired of your childish behavior.

>> No.38671624 [DELETED] 

>>38671612
get that eop ass back to twitter

>> No.38671640

>>38670206
wtf where have you been??

>> No.38671642

dont care about kanojowakanashii bullshit
dobt care about jamal
im here for mankos

>> No.38671646

also if you havent spent a lot of time outputting basic japanese how are you ever gonna be able to output intermediate japanese
and if you cant even do that you dont know japanese you can just parse it somewhat at best

>> No.38671652

anyways, this was a good opportunity to learn more about nuanced aspects of the language. it's my favorite kind of stuff.

>> No.38671659

>>38671646
> how are you ever gonna be able to output intermediate japanese
dont want to
>you can just parse it somewhat at best
some people are fine with that

>> No.38671662

>>38671477
the issue in that entire argument is that it's a sentence ripped out of context.
like if you would say it as is i'd interpret it as something about my mother makes me sad.
if it's a line in narration, then it can easily mean the mother is sad.

>> No.38671671

>>38671659
absolutely fair

>> No.38671674

>>38671547
no, we are

>> No.38671679

here's my nuanced take on japanese it doesn't make sense and not even natives are really sure how it works and just play it by feel

>> No.38671698

>>38671646
stop bragging

>> No.38671710

>>38671698
theres nothing wrong with bragging as long as it's not humblebragging
only onions leftoids get offended when people state their achievements

>> No.38671712 [DELETED] 

nihongo word of the day is 蹂躙

>> No.38671714

>>38670609
smoking is disgusting

>> No.38671731

>>38671710
didnt know s零y was filtered too

>> No.38671733

>>38671710
theres nothing wrong with humblebragging as long as you don't do it too much
only onions leftoids get offended when people state their achievements

>> No.38671738

>>38671590
>why does the clown act like a clown
gee

>> No.38671760

not even bragging
https://youtu.be/ceNQt0uzhkM?t=78

>> No.38671763

>>38671733
stfu ciaran humblebragging isnt simply stating your achievements it's being a fake and slimy weasel trying to cultivate some optics

>> No.38671772

damn i really hoped jamal might have been gone for good after his recent break but now i wake up to find that he is posting again. morning ruined.

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daily reminder to be a non meanie

>> No.38671781

mined 蹂躙 from hairy leg guys anki deck

>> No.38671795

>>38671763
of course it had to be """"output"""""" girl

>> No.38671808

>>38671795
shes right tho

>> No.38671815 [DELETED] 

ok now that things have settled down and the scrubs have been dispatched of lets talk about japanese

so its a language thats all about distance between people (this is why japanese ppl r socially trash and retarded) and so if u cross a certain line and become too close so to speak to another person especially a complete stranger thats is a cardinal sin punishable by having ur dick 切り裂くd

so there of course the original thing in the linguistic book has validity but its not stating a hard and fast language rule of japanese that is applicable in all situations or a red squiggly line is going to appear under it

hope that helps

>> No.38671827

>>38671815
what are your qualifications

>> No.38671831

languages dont have rules
they simply have observations about how users interact with each other linguistically

>> No.38671837 [DELETED] 

im the fuckin nihongod and i will german suplex any retard who says stupid shit in front of me thats the qualification if u do stupid shit ur gettin plexd

>> No.38671853

>>38671831
法則はないけど法則性はあるから
法則と米印で炊き込みご飯しよう

>> No.38671855

>>38671831
true

>> No.38671867

you didn't say anything of value. you just did your old "only i know japanese and everyone else is trash" routine for the 45449849849451614848949849834293429834298342892382973293729372397239827392379237293729373th time

>> No.38671875 [DELETED] 

me and 1 other person tried to explain it and u cant understand bc u havent watched ur 10000 hours of eng subbed anime yet

>> No.38671876

>>38671795
i didn't realize og stole my reason for disliking ciaran. wtf

>> No.38671883

>>38671853
dame you should be a poet

>> No.38671884

>>38665658
feeling like playing planetarian on my swish outside :3

>> No.38671891

>>38671867
just filter the obnoxious retard, makes the place 1928÷7÷€×€+£×8 better, no point in feeding the troll

cleanup crew is another option

>> No.38671893

why is jamal back? the thread was so much better without him

>> No.38671894

>>38671867
you lose

>> No.38671905

if jamal doesnt know japanese how come he always agrees with me when im spitting pure facts and knowledge

>> No.38671908

>>38671893
>>38671891
true

>> No.38671913

based jamal taking out the trash that is these newfags -me

>> No.38671915

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMe-WzQQcZ4

>> No.38671932

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPnwZUMckE

>> No.38671936

why does kiara from hololive know japanese but you guys don't? surely you're smarter than a holo slut

>> No.38671954

>>38671936
i have existential dread. i know it's all pointless. normies think there's meaning in life so they're motivated to accomplish pointless things.

>> No.38671957

>>38671932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4lXlgB7cgQ

>> No.38671959

>>38671932
rare watchable vtuber video

>> No.38671962

>>38671936
don't talk about kiara like that bitch shes a pure maiden as clean as fresh fallen snow in an isolated valley untouched by mankind and inhabited only by cute birds, perhaps penguins and or cocks

>> No.38671966

>>38671954
that's the first step to making up your own meaning in life. or you could become an edgy nihilist and do nothing

>> No.38671967

>>38671894
namefags are more interested in bulding a cult image than helping people out with their japanese. it's always some namefag that derails an interesting discussion with their narcissism

>> No.38671969

>>38671936
who? never heard of him

>> No.38671973

I love it in Japanese hip-hop when they just shout things like DRUGS! or MONEY! in English

>> No.38671974

>>38671954
existential dread is low iq, will to power is high iq, know the difference

>> No.38671977

>>38671954
yea nihilism is rational but you kind of have to trick yourself into being a little crazy to make it in this world. because in the end nihilism will make your life worse and you definitely want a better a life.

>> No.38671982

>>38671977
nihilism is NOT rational actually

>> No.38671984

you generally want to do the opposite of whatever og says

>> No.38671985

feel bad for kizuna ai
she was the pioneer but gets no views now.

>> No.38671997

>>38671977
yea

>> No.38671999

using a name isn't narcissistic, it's the default in real life.

being anonymous isn't selfless, it's cowardice

>> No.38672002

>>38671982
it is. everything is for naught unless youre a little crazy or uninformed

>> No.38672003

>>38671985
https://youtu.be/0wFkqctcRmU
hokum bokum is just too good

>> No.38672012

>>38671999
it is in this particular setting
this is not "real life"

>> No.38672013

>>38671999
cowardice is justified if the cost for honesty is sufficiently high. for example you can't state innocuous and straightforward truths about sex or race without your real life being potentially ruined. anonymity is a good thing.

>> No.38672015

>>38671954
i dont think theres meaning in life
i just think that my brain provides me with more pleasure if i do certain things and dont sit around being depressed about the fact life is meaningless

>> No.38672019

>>38672013
>>>pol

>> No.38672022

korone worst holo by far. she needs to retire and take care of her children. fat bitch. and she sounds like elmo

>> No.38672024

>>38672003
overrated game
mario 64 is infinitely better

>> No.38672025

>>38672013
telling people your name is nihongod isn't gonna get you fired from your job lmfao

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>> No.38672034

>>38672024
only a zoomer could say this
even dk64 has more soul than mario (who?)

>> No.38672044

>>38672034
as a game
mario 64 graphics have some soul but banjo on a crt looks way nicer

>> No.38672045

>>38672032
daaaame

>> No.38672050

>>38672032
dame
itadakimasu

>> No.38672055

>>38672015
why waste time being here if life has no meaning?

>> No.38672061

>>38672055
there no such thing as a "waste of time" if life is meaningless

>> No.38672064

>>38671205
cool

>> No.38672067

>>38671936
IRyS is better

>> No.38672068 [DELETED] 

>>38672025
i dont work for anybody but myself i cant get cancelled and i dont have social media

>> No.38672070

>>38672055
why does it have to have meaning? it's interesting to be alive, it's an experience
it doesnt have any meaning to go on a rollercoaster but it causes some chemicals to go off and make you feel shit so why not go on one

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>>38672032

>> No.38672075

>>38672061
but why be though?

>> No.38672084

https://twitter.com/yuita1022/status/1495037863372668934
why dont you have a japanese wife like this guy?

>> No.38672087

I hate you atheist freaks KYS

>> No.38672091

jamal can't write japanese

>> No.38672107

>>38672084
*yet

>> No.38672119

>>38672091
that's because he got rich from bitcoin and it killed his will to self improve

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damn greentext in my vinnie

>> No.38672123

>>38672087
seethe harder tard

>> No.38672127

anybody got a link to something that makes it clear you can leave japan as a native rn
obasan says she found a website that says you cant

>> No.38672130 [DELETED] 

last time i wrote japanese some scrub tried to find fault with the most innocuous thing and suicided lol

>> No.38672140

130
lol

>> No.38672155

>>38672127
just go to any travel package website?
https://www.jtb.co.jp/kaigai/area/hawaii/
you think they're selling trips to hawaii with instructions about covid preparation stuff if you cant go abroad?
link the website

>> No.38672159

>>38672123
KYS before you realize you are no different from giant ego christians. You've let your environment control your beliefs and soul, absolute scum

>> No.38672190

>>38672155
ty i will

>> No.38672206

>>38671815
Case #6, you are speaking about someone "uchi" to someone "soto"
This is somewhat similar to your Case #2 but it goes a bit deeper than that. Due to uchi/soto distinctions, if you're reporting about someone who is "uchi" to someone who is "soto" using evidentials becomes strange. 悲しい would be a bit contrived for this example, but for instance if you were talking to a stranger, you would use "母は病気です" and not "母は病気だそうです" or anything like that.

Case #7, the topic is interpreted as the cause of the sadness
This was the interpretation I used in my original post and what upset everyone, but it is wholly valid. 災害は悲しい = "disasters make me sad". This should be the obvious and really only plausible interpretation of this sentence. When one hears 母は悲しい they can also use this same interpretation -- the topic is the cause of the sadness: "my mother makes me sad". Hasegawa argued that due to the necessity of evidentials in Japanese, this must be the interpretation that one uses in the general case (i.e., not a mother speaking about themself in the third person)

>> No.38672218 [DELETED] 

nice mod abuse

he even deleted all my on topic posts about japanese

i would suggest getting on irc and letting the staff know

i have infinite numbers so if you want to play this game i will last much longer than you but i will not stand for blatant abuse any longer

>> No.38672225

>>38671038
I just finished chapter 2, it was hard.

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>>38672218

>> No.38672236 [DELETED] 

>>38672218
its better for you no? you are addicted to this site and your life is in shambles

>> No.38672239

>>38670899
reading a linnie while listening to it is ftw you're gonna make it

>> No.38672244 [DELETED] 

>>38672236
i mean yea im gonna fuck off in a little bit anyway but just sending a little message

>> No.38672246

>>38670899
doesn't narou typically have a lot of parts missing that were later added to the official book

>> No.38672247

>>38672218
holy shit mods being based for once

>> No.38672254

>>38672127
japan must have a government website with travel advice, restrictions or warnings. id look into that if i were you.
your japanese is better than mine so you should look it up yourself

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>>38672218

>> No.38672275

>>38672246
I don't know.

>> No.38672291

btw if anyone found value in my posts on the japanese subject that was being discussed i implore u to repost them

id do it myself but thats in bad taste ill let my boys decide whats worth passing on

>> No.38672292

>>38672127
dude shut da fuck upm no one cares what ur ugly hag says fuck off

>> No.38672295

>>38672159
but there is no soul. just chemical reactions. when you die there is nothing afterwards because you wont have your most precious tool, your brain. there isnt even freewill. everything you do or say comes from causalities. youre just like me

>> No.38672303

>>38672246
>>38672275
depends very much on the editor some series are changed drastically for others it's more subtle
but in general there's always at least a few differences so you're listening to the light novel you're better off also reading the light novel version

>> No.38672307

the worst ESL here still produces english at a higher level than what the best JSL here is able to shit out in japanese

>> No.38672309

the only thing worth passing on is this foot up ur ass

>> No.38672315

>>38672291
repost them where? also all your lessons are too short and vague so they aren't helpful, and if i posted them anywhere i wouldn't know how to defend them against criticism because they are so short and vague, thus it'd probably just make you look worse overall

>> No.38672316

yea im definitely passing on that

>> No.38672325

>>38672291
hmm sorry i can't remember any helpful or educational posts from you.

>> No.38672334

>>38672315
i just mean itt or whatever u see fit idc but i am ofc miffed at the abuse that nuked a valid on topic discussion or rather me plexin a couple scrubs

>> No.38672337

going into the "nothing matters so why put effort in to anything" phase again.

>> No.38672342

did i ask?

>> No.38672371

>>38672190
https://www.narita-airport.jp/jp/news/pcr_testing_center
theres even a PCR test center in narita airport for people going abroad
and theres still shitloads of flights going abroad every day
https://www.narita-airport.jp/jp/flight/today/?DepArr=D&International=ON&ontime=1200&flightDate=20220219
it's actually impossible to find any site explicitly saying its allowed because it's not even in question. all the govt sites are talking about 入国 only https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/bunya/0000121431_00209.html

>> No.38672377

>>38672295
>there isnt even freewill. everything you do or say comes from causalities
Lmao true for you because your christian environment has led you to such a christian way of thinking. So ironic how atheists claim themselves to be able to think outside of christian concepts yet you can't even escape the christian belief paradigm. Come over to Japan someday and I'll be glad to introduce you to the Tree of Life though, I was just kidding about the kill yourself stuff from earlier

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it's ok to care.

all the coolest stuff and actions were made by people that care.

carrying means sometimes you will cry and sometimes you will be angry or stressed.

but if you care about the important things in life then it's worth it

>> No.38672391

古神道しか勝たん

>> No.38672402

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iZj3dOm9muA&feature=youtu.be

LOL

>> No.38672412

if i go to japan im gonna need some connections so someone can introduce me to a rich, young vtuber so we can get married. the only problem is meeting her since she will fall for my charm easily but how do i meet one, what do

>> No.38672425

just be まふまふ and meet them years before they begin their vshitter career

>> No.38672433

>>38672402
sausuga japan

>> No.38672458

>>38672371
i will try
she said she would like to come here first and then next time i visit her

>> No.38672461

>>38672386
nice toxic positivity

>> No.38672485

>>38672386
>all the coolest stuff and actions were made by people that care.
its not ok to care superficially. you have to see gods to find your place in life. i do this by reading eroge

>> No.38672487

>>38672190
actually heres the 外務省s specific website for travelling abroad
https://www.ezairyu.mofa.go.jp/tabireg/index.html
theres literally nothing here about not being able to go which would be the first thing you see if it were true

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yeah dunno

>> No.38672505

>>38672497
why is he standing like that?

>> No.38672514

>>38672337
it can be a pretty big relief to know nothing matters too. its all how you frame it. 'now that nothing matters you are free to study japanese'

but something has to matter somewhere i'd guess or why exist? we'll probably never know, but in the end it never mattered from your perspective anyways. so to matter or have grand purpose is irrelevant. humans are pretty cool so enjoy the ride and mold the world how ""you"" want it

>> No.38672515

私はゲイが
djtは悲しい

>> No.38672516

>>38672497
>>38672505
>Make no mistake, those 4.5 inches look huge on me

>> No.38672521

>>38672497
he got hit with a few 2 many yoga drills lets just say and now his posture is permanently ruined

>> No.38672532

>>38672505
watched too much shounen

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>>38672497
LOOOOOL

>> No.38672540

>>38672497
outside of not being jewish, i feel i can relate with matt a lot

>> No.38672548

>>38672130
how do we prove that you're wrong in a way that you'll concede? you don't accept textbooks even if they were written by native speakers, if presented with native sources you claim that we're just misunderstanding the text. i can't imagine a scenario where you would actually admit to being wrong.

>> No.38672550

>>38672538
She's right

>> No.38672573

>>38672538
Her team is made up of manlets that's why they're mad

>> No.38672583

mods getting iyoiyo based

>> No.38672584

>>38672497
lmfao classic matto

>> No.38672603

>>38672548
i accepted the textbook i didnt accept the way the eop interpreted it because i think the textbook was not written for people who just started learning japanese yesterday

>> No.38672608

kind of pissed me off how she didn't seem more impressed when matt said he reached 100k subs. that probably took a ton of time and effort to do

>> No.38672617

>>38672386
iq matters way more than mindset

>> No.38672635

>>38672617
being otaku is what matters

>> No.38672638

>>38672608
i cringed hard when he said he'd help her out with translation or something. he cringed too though so it's ok.

>> No.38672639

>>38672583
game on i say

>> No.38672640

>>38672608
100k subscribers? that must have taken him a whole year of effort

>> No.38672643

>>38672538
its fucking over bros im 1.69cm

>> No.38672645

>>38667748
norwegian wood

>> No.38672662

>>38672617
you can be as smart as you want if someone's wiling to eat your face and you're in an elevator with him aren't going to win unless you ascend your mindset to at least match his

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have you accepted Rubin先生 to your heart yet?

>> No.38672665

>>38672603
>i accepted the textbook i didnt accept the way the eop interpreted it
all he did was repeat what the textbook said

>> No.38672677

>>38672514
Yeah I understand and normally im of that mindset, but once in a while my mind just switches to the negative mindset for no fucking reason. ill get out of it shortly prob like always

>> No.38672680

>>38672664
yes

>> No.38672686

>>38672643
i'm 186 cm so she owes me sex

>> No.38672694

>>38672662
intelligence researcher stuart ritchie says growth mindset has a minuscule effect on academic achievement.

>> No.38672698

>>38672664
what is good about this book?

>> No.38672706

>>38672698
it explains the essence of japanese

>> No.38672716

>>38672694
stuart is a gay name so he is irrelevant to this face eating elevator scenario

>> No.38672724

>>38672694
academic achievement has a miniscule relationship to intelligence

>> No.38672726

>>38672698
it's a couple practical lessons about japanese from someone that studies linguistics in a nice short book. most of Dolly's videos are based on this book

>> No.38672734

>>38672716
stuart is an alpha nerd

>>38672724
not minuscule. it's a moderate relationship.

>> No.38672741

>>38672664
but that is a textbook, how can a textbook contain information that are not found within textbooks? this jay rubin fellow is playing with dark forces

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>>38672726
>from someone that studies linguistics
he is also a translator

>Rubin has a PhD in Japanese literature from the University of Chicago. He taught at the University of Washington for eighteen years, and then moved on to Harvard University,

>> No.38672762

>>38672698
it explains japanese grammar in a logical way instead of relying on making exceptions due to english approximate translations.

>> No.38672763

>>38672617
iq is just a reflection of your problem solving skills, dno how you think thats so crucial to forming patterns of language in your brain. all of our brains neural synapses essentially work the same. thats why you find fluent retarded people.

>> No.38672767

>>38672741
rubin starts by claiming that は only has one function which is to mark the topic and *nothing* else then he explains about the hidden subject that is in every japanese sentence and so on and so on

>> No.38672776

>>38672744
>He taught at the University of Washington for eighteen years
I wonder if he taught Dogen and the guy that made yomichan while he was there

>> No.38672780

cant trust anyone that treats は and such as a thing and not a word

>> No.38672784

>>38671006
yep that guy needs rtk

>> No.38672785

>>38672303
Ehh I'm reading the one in syosetsu, and listening to a random roodoku from niconico. So far (prologue and 3 chapters in) everything is the same

>> No.38672792

>>38672763
matt, doth, jazzy, khatz, dogen, etc. are all high iq and the most fluent.

>> No.38672793

>>38672780
it's a word that can only be described by its function in english

>> No.38672797

>>38672744
big deal. any japanese person could get a phd in japanese studies

>> No.38672802

>>38672744
lmao of course he translated the easiest natsume novel and then a long list of pleb-tier murakami books. i guarantee this retard is only intermediate. typical jewish nepotism seen in elite academia.

>> No.38672808

for jamal

https://nihongobu.net/soudesu-adjective-nature/

>> No.38672814

>>38672793
the key to ultimate acquisition is to understand how it feels to say は and also how it feels not to say は

everything else is like trying to explain how water is wet

>> No.38672815

>>38672780
can't trust these weirdos who talk about japanese and have never so much as even touched a vinnie - the greatest pieces of lit ever conceived

>> No.38672820

water isn't wet

>> No.38672824

well, in any case he was interviewed in japanese by some dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyoJo0AUeFg

>> No.38672838

>>38672686
I'm 188cm, so she owes me sex more than you.

>> No.38672848

>>38672814
but that's what rubin tries to do in the book. he doesn't talk about it technically

>> No.38672850

>>38672291
there's nothing of value to anything youve ever done or said tho

>> No.38672851

lmfao poor mgs translator

https://www.twitter.com/JeremyBlaustein/status/1493759948769361925

>> No.38672852

yah thinkin jay rubin more like gay rubin

>> No.38672853

>>38672820
wetness doesn't exist.

>> No.38672858

>>38672824
oh no no no no

>> No.38672869

>>38672792
theyre all slighly above average i wouldnt say high iq. you dont see any truly high iq people which is also telling

>> No.38672876 [DELETED] 

>>38672218
sent feedback about your ban evasion, no worries

>> No.38672884

>>38672785
the roudoku is likely from the wn version then
i assumed you're listening to the audible version which is based on the ln

>> No.38672887

>>38672802
you haven't even translated that one so joke's on you

>> No.38672889

One day I'll be good enough to be a translator and get paid just for knowing japanese. I'm 30 so I better hurry up tho.

>> No.38672899

>>38672386
true true

>> No.38672901

>>38672664
based dolly's sensei

>> No.38672905

actual true anecdote about jay rubin: when i was in university taking japanese courses (for fun on the side, not as a major) i had a native japanese ta who had previously worked with him, and she told me that he was constantly asking her to help him understand what sentences in murakami books meant.

>> No.38672910

>>38672538
I'm 5'7 and so she's completely right

>> No.38672916
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38672916

>>38672889

>> No.38672919

>>38672869
when i say high iq i mean 2 std above the mean (130) which i think they all are at minimum.
>you dont see any truly high iq people which is also telling
cuz it's a low value hobby.

>> No.38672928

>>38672583
true true

>> No.38672929 [DELETED] 

>>38672851
lmao dude destroyed himself just on logic alone lets not even worry about the japanese

>>38672876
keep doing it then i aint fuckin around anymore ur gonna have to work really hard this time bucko

my txt file has 12000 lines of numbers that are all residential

>> No.38672931

>>38672851
yea he fucking ruined the point of the line by translating it as nice, it's weird for him precisely because it feels nostalgic and he doesn't know why (youre supposed to use your brain to interpret the art at this point)

>> No.38672932

>>38672905
that sounds like a reasonable thing to do. i would do the same if i were a translator.

>> No.38672944

>>38672905
so he's just another nuke. should have read vinnies

>> No.38672947

>>38672884
No the audible version costs money.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36782071

>> No.38672958

>>38672944
kys

>> No.38672959

>>38672932
why would you set out to translate a book that you don't even understand in the first place. what incredible arrogance and disrespect.

>> No.38672965

>>38672905
every good translator does this because otherwise you are just giving your own interpretation of every line, and the whole point of literature is that there can be many interpretations

>> No.38672976

>>38672947
>No the audible version costs money.
it doesn't audible.jp is 聴き放題 now and you can download almost everything for free with openaudible

>> No.38672977

>>38672958
keep propping up garbage and not real art

>> No.38672978

>>38672889
based

one day ill get paid to 中だし jks in japanese

>> No.38672986

>>38672959
no matter how good you are you'll always find a thorny passage in a foreign language and being 100% sure by asking a native is a good thing to do. especially if we're talking about fucking novels.

>> No.38672997

>>38672965
yeah i mean the translators of the kjv didn't have any native greek consultants on hand and look what an awful translation that turned out to be.

>> No.38673006

>>38672959
you are probably just misunderstanding what was said by her, there's a difference between not knowing what something means and wanting a second opinion and what someone thinks the author was trying to say

>> No.38673012

https://newrepublic.com/article/62610/the-art-translation

>> No.38673025

>>38672905
if they were discussing the text thats reasonable if he was goin hey uhh my editor is really breathin down my neck on this deadline can u help ur boy jay out with some tls on the dl no one has to know ?

>> No.38673028

>>38672986
i don't accept that it is even remotely acceptable for a professor of japanese at an ivy league university to not have 100% comprehension of murakami novels.

>> No.38673034

most of you weak faggots belong on /int/ and /lit/
this is the otaku board. get out of here with your pointless bullshit right now

>> No.38673035

>>38673006
this should be obvious to anyone with a semblance of intelligence

>> No.38673046

>>38672976
Nice, but even so reading from syosetsu and having rikaichan or whatever is easier

>> No.38673056

>>38673028
there's no such thing as 100% comprehension of anything
language doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, you only comprehend your own version

>> No.38673068

i 100% comprehend that わたしはゲイ

>> No.38673074

>>38672851
some of the replies are fantastic

>> No.38673086

>>38673056
2 identical twins who lived their lives exactly the same. check mate

>> No.38673087

>>38673068
but what about かれはゲイ

>> No.38673088

>>38672997
this but unironically

>> No.38673090

>>38673056
i reject your premiss lol

>> No.38673099

>>38673046
you can do the same thing with the ln by opening it in https://ttu-ebook.web.app/manage
but yeah it doesn't really matter what version you read as long as audio and text match so it's whatever really

>> No.38673105

>>38673028
sometimes you have to interpret an ambiguous line and choose one interpretation because the language you're translating to can't produce the same effect and that's when you start having doubts. try translating anything and you'll see

>> No.38673111

>>38673087
as for kare, gay

100% comprehenshin ez

>> No.38673120

>>38673087
As for him, he makes me gay

>> No.38673124

>>38672929
>lmao dude destroyed himself just on logic alone lets not even worry about the japanese
what are you talking about

>> No.38673125

>>38673028
https://newrepublic.com/article/62610/the-art-translation

>> No.38673129

>>38673086
there's still no way for them to know that what they are saying is what the other person thinks they are saying

>> No.38673133

>>38673111
but gay means a lot of different shit to different people

>> No.38673174

https://youtu.be/ONoM9R_w2bY

>> No.38673177

there's two types of people
the ones that throw the rocks
and the gays that get hit by the rocks
it's very simple

>> No.38673178

i look at this thread and i see a whole lot of ngmi

>> No.38673199

>>38672851
lol

>> No.38673205

>>38673178

heh, owned

>> No.38673212

>>38673178
projecting

>> No.38673219

i look at this thread and i see a whole lot of gmi

>> No.38673226

>>38672851
fuckin lol
there's like one million ways of expressing this naturally

>> No.38673237

>>38673226
post one

>> No.38673241

>>38673178
as for anon, his monitor was off (implying he was remarking about himself)

>> No.38673242

>>38673212
how many vinnies have you read?

>> No.38673246

>>38673178
ur monitor bro

>> No.38673249

even if he just said "strange, it feels almost nostalgic" or whatever then that's fine because it's left to the readers interpretation, instead he decided to impose his own shitty interpretation. a good translator like jay rubin would have discussed this with his peers to come to a better conclusion

>> No.38673256
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38673256

>>38673219

>> No.38673271

>>38673237
psycho mantis helped snake! he was very happy! hurting people felt bad! helping people felt good! a shame he realized this at the end! ahhhh i died

>> No.38673277

>>38673242
i read 113 in 2021 alone

>> No.38673280

>>38673242
i tried reading nekopara vol 0 but it was too hard and there were no nipples whatsoever.

>> No.38673281

"and yet it makes me feel nostalgic, somehow"

>> No.38673303

>>38673280
seen so much anime that nipples are now strange when i do see them

>> No.38673312

>It definitely works better the way you wrote it. I'm not sure what the nuanced implications of this are in Japanese, but in English, yeah, it needed to change.
lmfao
"i don't know what it means but it needed to be changed"

>> No.38673314

>>38673303
why dont you watch anime with nipples then

>> No.38673324

one day we're going to look back at our time shitposting here fondly and feel that inner nostalgia glow

>> No.38673330

>>38673314
it looks weird
>>38673312
psycho mantis wa kanashi

>> No.38673342

>>38673277
no you didn't. next.

>> No.38673345

>>38673312
the cock-sucking replies are absolutely insane
"you fixed the japanese writing bro"

>> No.38673346
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38673346

私はお尻

>> No.38673363

there was no は tho

>> No.38673364

>>38673346
i wish i was an oshiri too..

>> No.38673365

>>38673277
if this were true you'd be famous on reddit by now

>> No.38673366

>>38673178
nice cellphone

>> No.38673370

>>38673271
sublime

>> No.38673382

>>38673342
cope
>>38673365
don't care about being an eceleb

>> No.38673388

>>38673312
as for me,
>I think you “fixed” the Japanese.

>> No.38673400

>>38673382
>don't care about being an eceleb
neither did doth or jazzy they did it so they could get a slice of the patreon money for the websites they promoted

>> No.38673402

yosh, claimed my unemployment benefits, time to study some nihongo

>> No.38673407

>>38673364
no hes saying actually "i like ass"

u have 2 know japanese to understand tho

>> No.38673411

>>38673277
but did you understand them is the real question

>> No.38673412

the thing is to be a good translator and not a hack you have to be a good writer too (because good writers know how to use vagueness to leave the final interpretation up to the reader) whereas mgs guy clearly is not even on kojimas level in this regard

>> No.38673415

>>38668780
japanese tv is english youtube

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38673425

>>38673407
at least someone understood it

>> No.38673426

>>38673407
"as for me, its booty"

>> No.38673429

>>38673280
shouldn't have started with 0 but with 1
also download the uncensor patch or just pirate it from nyaa

>> No.38673434

>>38673402
unfathomably based
>>38673400
dunno schizo bro that's a lot of work to split 15 dollars 3 ways

>> No.38673438

>>38673364
yep this guy needs rubin

>> No.38673452

>>38673438
this but dolly

>> No.38673453

>>38673429
I did but 1 was too hard and the nipples distracted me.

>> No.38673459

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mth9DmkDNc

>> No.38673460

>>38673277
which ones

>> No.38673461

i need japanese ass

>> No.38673464

what happened to QM and the girl who used to post in crippled japanese all the time?

>> No.38673466

>>38673453
right? nipples are just weird

>> No.38673489

another obasan called
複雑な気持ち

>> No.38673494

>>38673464
they were turned into natto

>> No.38673497

>>38673464
Quizlet comes here every couple days to do his whole holier-than-thou shtick and the ogre has slunk back into whatever dark place it crept out from

>> No.38673501

>>38673464
who? this is an anonymous message board try reddit

>girl

lmao

>> No.38673503

i hate unknown words

>> No.38673505

>>38673489
知るか

>> No.38673521

i hate unknown manko

>> No.38673523

>>38673505
にほんごおかしい

>> No.38673531

>>38673494
oishisou

>> No.38673535

>>38673489
bro, you realise all these women are likely crazy right?

>> No.38673567

it'll make a funny news article when reaches the logical conclusion of all of this

>> No.38673570

>>38673535
thats a good thing

>> No.38673612

dōbutsu no morai

>> No.38673619

>>38673523
どこがおかしいのか
https://youtu.be/SUsiC0Ok-Ts?t=893

>> No.38673632

>>38673535
this is your own incel schizophrenia and agoraphobia talking bro, even bunko would easily overpower a japanese grandma, if anything she should be worried about the weird euro woth the grandma fetish

>> No.38673643

All I gotta say is bunko is walking a fine line to Elder Exploitation, which is a criminal offense

>> No.38673648

i hate unknown goi

>> No.38673663
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38673663

jamal vs the maid

>> No.38673668

>>38673643
this anon gets it, chris chan is now in rakuen for crimes against vegetables

>> No.38673681

>>38673619
wtf is this also you dont get it
>>38673643
the one who talks about meeting is 30代後半 she wont say more

>> No.38673689

i kirai unknown goi

>> No.38673691

>>38673663
glad he found og a job

>> No.38673705

>>38673663
there aint no vs here

once someone establishes dominance the other end will not waste their time unless they r doing truly malicious things

>> No.38673706

>>38673681
>you dont get it
then explain it

>> No.38673719 [DELETED] 

so is 「彼女は悲しい」the girl is sad
i don't want some twitter nigger making me think its something its not
im just going to believe its how i think it is.
fucking niggers

>> No.38673721

>>38673663
mistranslation, it should be "You make me such a pig!"

>> No.38673726

>>38673681
>30代後半
Wtf that's no obasan. Us 30 something's aren't old

>> No.38673744

>>38673719
language means whatever you want it to mean

>> No.38673747

>>38673681
memes aside what's your end goal?
you're not going to start a family with someone that old and if you form a long term childless relationship she will die leaving you alone in your most trying years

>> No.38673750

>>38673719
it's something you'll never hear a native say.

the takeaway from all this is that
彼女は怖い
does NOT mean "she is scared"

>> No.38673751

>>38673719
no memes, yes it is

>> No.38673770

>>38673719
>>38671576
>>38671265
>>38671297
only posts you need to read on this subject

>> No.38673776

someone show native material of it with context
instead of what some faggot said

>> No.38673778

>>38673750
stfu gimp

>> No.38673789

>>38673706
you were looking for 聞いてない
>>38673726
she calls herself おばはん
>>38673747
just see where it goes she says she wants to meet many times

>> No.38673791

>>38673747
imagine making plans for when you die lmao

>> No.38673817

>>38673464
qm was just in the other thread about learning japanese that was up bragging about his 23000 anki cards and how nice it is to be able to watch anime without subtitles. i was about to post something but then the thread died

>> No.38673818

>>38673747
if someone told me this was a lizard pretending to be human id believe it

did dad come back?

>> No.38673836

>>38673791
thanks for reminding me. i still need to make a will

>> No.38673844

>>38673789
Just saying if you are attracted to obasans, she isn't one no matter what she calls herself.

>> No.38673845

>>38673789
i wanted to use this
https://youtu.be/667InRX2OZs?t=501
but you say it's wrong so
who am i to argue otherwise?

>> No.38673867

>>38673818
it's one of those things that you can only really appreciate one you have a family
anacreon seemed to get it

>> No.38673876

>>38673844
im attracted to her
>>38673845
the context is different i know shiruka is a thing bro even khatz says it in the vid

>> No.38673878

>>38673817
i envy him so much

>> No.38673879

Whats a good lets play channel? If they speak slowly and have subs and play old rpgs the better

>> No.38673899

>>38673879
https://youtu.be/0wFkqctcRmU

>> No.38673900

>>38673845
in this situation he is speaking to the guy and basically reprimanding him for his behavior, and the other guy is saying "i dont give a fuck"
the way you used it is just saying "i dont give a fuck" to something that wasnt even about you in the first place, this is not the same

>> No.38673931

>>38673900
ok, noted

>> No.38673938

>>38673899
Too fast, no subs, game sucks ass

>> No.38673967

>>38673867
what do i get? sry i cant read the thread right now

>> No.38673991

>>38665734
i don't always dashi but when i do it's shiru

>> No.38673999

Is this a good weekly plan or am I being too soft on myself.

https://files.catbox.moe/3ddwjm.jpg

>> No.38674018

>>38665779
daily jazz thread

>> No.38674020

>>38673999
no idea what a febrero is
none of this makes any sense

>> No.38674025

>>38673879
https://youtube.com/user/KIYOisGOD

>> No.38674044

>>38673999
im doing 50-60 words per day but you do you bro

>> No.38674052

>>38673999
i can't read or understand what this table is supposed to mean at all. on top of that you posted a link to an image on a fucking image board

>> No.38674053

>>38673999
what do the numbers mean

>> No.38674069

>>38674020
febrero is february in portuguese i think

its tokui bro

>>38674052
yep its tokui

>> No.38674077

>>38674053
>>38674052
left is weekly total, individual cells are daily total

>> No.38674084

>>38674052
Range ban, can't post images.

>>38674053
How many of those things i did each day,

>> No.38674090

>>38674077
daily total of what
minutes?

>> No.38674103

tokui already knows japanese

>> No.38674104

>>38666385
imagine making only one card for the english word 'put' and thinking you know what it means. same retarded logic.

>> No.38674105

>>38674084
>Range ban, can't post images.
holy freakin ultima based

>> No.38674107

>>38673879
>have subs
no one does this

>> No.38674109

>>38674053
you are low iq if you can't figure this chart out by yourself

>> No.38674112

>>38674090
hours dumbass you think hes doing 10 minutes of anki a day?

>> No.38674113

im doing 15 words a day from the core deck and it makes me want to kms. I truly dont understand how you can can do 50. You must have great mental fortitude, or im just a little bitch

>> No.38674121

>>38674109
thanks i got it now

>> No.38674128
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>>38674113
if you read manga 6 hours a day the words in core become trivial

>> No.38674131

>>38674090
total goals for the week
100 new anki cards
8 30m sessions of novel/manga reading
etc
use your brain bro

>> No.38674147

>>38674090
if the left cell says "8 30m novels/manga" that means 8 blocks of 30 minutes for the entire week, so on monday I read 30 minutes of a novel, etc etc

>> No.38674163

>>38674084
are you the guy from the jav thread?

>> No.38674174

crazy how dumb some zoomers are they cant even read a simple spreadsheet

>> No.38674175

>>38674113
>im doing 15 words a day from the core deck and it makes me want to kms.
this is when you should just stop anki and watch jp-subbed anime with yomichan
anki is not necessary to learn japanese and if it demotivates you you should drop it

>> No.38674190

>>38674113
Don't add useless words. You don't need to know "import" or "prime minister", at least not for now.

>> No.38674191

>>38674113
im doing 45-60 mined things, not core lol

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38674201

>>38674128

>> No.38674202

>>38674147
人類の未来が心配になってきちゃいましたわ

>> No.38674215

>>38674163
No I haven't downloaded javs in a while

>> No.38674217

>>38674190
総理大臣
now what bitch

>> No.38674221

>>38674190
core2.3k removed those kind of words

>> No.38674241

>>38673663
was this picture really drawn by a western piggu
i find this hard to believe because it nails the style perfectly

>> No.38674248

>>38674217
ehhh a somewhat logical giant is coming your way, maybe you can reason with it?

>> No.38674263

>>38674241
it was drawn by a woman
they have a much better eye for detail

>> No.38674276

>>38674241
western piggu are the only people alive that care about old, high quality japanese stuff. not even the japs care about their own shit

>> No.38674285

>>38674191
ya idk how u do it, im impressed
im doing 15 a day with 8k mined

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38674287

>>38674241
a nip woman
>>38674248
based

>> No.38674290

>>38674276
a lot of them care about it but very few can produce something that actually captures it

>> No.38674305

>>38674263
no they don't

>> No.38674321

actually showered wtf

>> No.38674326

as for me, preference lies with the modern style

>> No.38674340

>>38673999
if you're a beginner that's fine, if you're more advanced you might have more luck with mining those 20 words instead

>> No.38674343

>>38674113
if the reviews are piling up (ie 200+) just put 0 new cards for a few days, but keep reviewing.
Also get the pass/fail script, fuck the original 4 buttons. And the ease of whatever script too.

>> No.38674347

>>38674287
shes vietnamese-american according to her faq

>> No.38674353

>>38674285
theres a trick to it, say today I picked up 魔女、I also pick up 魔法、魔王、悪魔、邪魔、etc, if you do 5 or 6 kanji a day thats easily 60 words or sometimes more and each works as mortar for each other one as they share reading/meaning

just an example

>> No.38674356

>>38674321
bunbro i like you i really do but if youre gonna blog at least keep it on topic

>> No.38674394

>>38674356
oke

>> No.38674407

>>38666336
just click stats, you are probably asking for the true retention addon, which shows extra stats

>> No.38674417

>>38674343
>pass/fail script
is there a point if I just use the standard good/wrong button?

>> No.38674418

>>38674069
>febrero is february in portuguese
nope
february in pt = fevereiro

>> No.38674437

>>38674417
it looks better

>> No.38674438

>>38674353
I believe you but I hope that's not an accurate example, you're wasting your own time if you add half that shit like 魔女 魔王 魔法 and 悪魔

>> No.38674445

>>38674353
ah, 魔物 too and a bunch of others, anyway that works for most everything cept things like 鞄 which have one word, but theres also things like 鞄持ち, kotowaza, etc

>> No.38674464

>>38674353
>>38674445
you dont have to mine for that to happen

>> No.38674493

>>38674438
what the fuck are you talking about those 4 words are more important than "economy" or "passage" or "taxes"

>> No.38674508

>>38674438
its just an example of something with a bunch of words that came to mind but eh, ive added most things using the same method and my retention is 90, so im satisfied

mind some/a lot of the words i knew, but i didn't know how to write them, or i have them to reinforce something else

>> No.38674509

>>38674438
what words do you add?

>> No.38674540

>>38674464
i know bunbro but my time is valuable and im not doing this shit forever, so the extra time i spend in anki to speed up the process is worth it for me

>> No.38674581

>>38674540
how can you possibly know that it speeds it up

>> No.38674589

>>38674493
anki should be a learning tool not a word count dick measuring tool and you should be minimizing the time spent in it vs reading
almost any word with 魔 is trivially easy to understand and the readings are basically exactly what you'd expect

>>38674509
last 5 words: 栽培 模様 塵芥 耽る 一心不乱

>>38674540
mining 15 variations of wizard means you don't value your time

>> No.38674614

ah yes the guys who think they can speedrun japanese again

there is no substitute for quality time in the language

>> No.38674639

>>38674614
don't be jealous doth knows more than you and can pass kanken 2

>> No.38674676

>>38674581
because ive picked up some 1500+ kanji so far and some 6k words plus in some 9 months, and that's not achievable without the scheduling to make sure my time is spent reinforcing what needs to be reinforced when it needs to be reinforced, and not sporadically over the course of years.

i also know i wouldn't be picking up 5 or 6 kanji a day (or more), just from reading cause of course i read too, so

>> No.38674688

>>38674589
>栽培 模様
n700

>> No.38674694

>>38674676
bunkrotch is right

>> No.38674695

doth sounds like a tourist when he speaks japanese in all aspects from just at face value to phrasing and no one cares about some kanji test

anyway dont use other peoples names to fight ur battles go try to speedrun japanese and come fight me with ur own power

>> No.38674709

why suck doths dick when you can suck hmslc's dick

>> No.38674716

>>38674695
at least we have proof that doth can produce japanese at a decent level
all you've given us is
>bagをgetしろ

>> No.38674717

id rather eat jazzys or ogs manko myself

>> No.38674735

hmslc is a different kinda tourist of the sex variety can tell with just 1 look at that mofo

>>38674716
and what have u given us ur not gettin ur own bag right now

>> No.38674750

>>38674735
>tourist

if a jap university law student qualifies as that, everyone here stands no chance

>> No.38674752

>>38674695
ur coming off as really jealous right now and its not a good look, best to not take shots at those above you

>> No.38674759

for me its khatz
australian dude is probably better but khatz has the energy

>> No.38674760

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDFAW15v70&t=542
so this is the gambs guy?

>> No.38674763

>>38674717
i retired og myself shes gone she fucked around for too long and i had to set her free

>> No.38674772

>>38674760
yeah his name is right there

>> No.38674775

>>38674750
no one knows japanese only jamal

>> No.38674777

>>38674759
you mean aussieman? yeah on speaking he is pretty top tier, no clue about reading tho. since he mostly learned from yt

>> No.38674784

>>38674750
hes surprisingly bad i thought he would be way better speaking

>> No.38674794

>>38674752
well then shouldnt u get back to ur job at the dick suckin factory right abt now ?

>> No.38674809

>>38674784
he talks slow and weird like that in english too, it's just his personality

>> No.38674827

>>38674688
didn't say I wasn't

>> No.38674830

>>38674784
>hes surprisingly bad
be more specific
grammar? pronunciation? he sounds unnatural?

>> No.38674833

aussieman is the only guy i wouldnt talk any shit about bc hes actually for real hes like a yunger better george

>> No.38674834

naturally analytical minds like doth, hmlsc, matt, etc will never get that good at speaking because speaking naturally is about just letting w/e the fuck you want come out -- something they acquired only when they were a retard child in their native language
otoh people who just dont give a fuck like bunko, jamal, khatz, auzzieman etc get good at speaking easily

>> No.38674845

big words from the cuck that was crying about og not giving a fuck about him (like nobody else ever has) the other day lmao

sore spot huh

>> No.38674857

>>38674830
only heard a few lines from him but you can just tell
his grammar is probably fine

>> No.38674862

>>38674845
noo you don't understand that was a part of the script there's much more to this than you see

>> No.38674874

>>38674845
its a forum thread on 4chan get ur mind right son we just playin theatre

>> No.38674875

>im a cursed boy too babe pur destinies are tangled

>ew youre gross and stupid

>U ONLY HAS A PLACE CUZ OF ME YOU LESBIAN BITCH

lmao

>> No.38674891

>>38674874
having to point this out is your make

>> No.38674900

Never gonna put someone down for how good they are unless they pride themselve to be better than others on that specific area

>> No.38674904
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>>38674862
he even made up a gf to make og jealous and she was like "huh cool" lmao

>> No.38674920

>>38674875
dame big l for jacuck

>> No.38674929

if jamal had played his cards better og would have loved him

>> No.38674940

>>38674875
don't forget the ragequit over she lusting for ciaran the other day

>guys she gone yet?

>> No.38674948

jamal doesn't know japanese

>> No.38674967

i didn't even play any cards and og wrote me a card

>> No.38674974

I pirated Infernax a few days ago, it was good but too easy and the bosses were meh. Now I'm watching a lets play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WmBHkE3rLs

>> No.38674978

>>38674940
lmao
>>38674929
nah, noone will ever love him, he truly is a bottom of the barrel shit person, he isn't even good as an epersonality as his streaming (lack of success) shows.

there's a reason not even his mom can stand him, he is living cancer and people can feel it

og chatted with people like you and 4bc, but not him, for a reason

>> No.38674989

my problem as an esl is that i can't let go of english and immerse 100% in japanese.

>> No.38675000

>>38674900
Based morality learned from anime and games because dad left when you were 3, I know that feel.

>> No.38675003

if that was true u wouldnt devote so much of ur time to posting about me every day

checkmate

>> No.38675012

>>38674974
do the konami code
>>38674989
english isn't even your native language just turn it off like you turn off whatever it is
>>38674967
>>38674978
im neither of em and og wrote me too hope shes well, hanako too

>> No.38675019

>>38675000
og, tell us more about your daddy

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>>38675000
wtf!

>> No.38675043

>>38675000
its time to forgive your dad babe nobody else can relate to that feel

>> No.38675054

me and og had a chat btw theres a reason why she will never post again suffice it to say haha

turns out she did save my email from way back when

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>>38674989
same
i get into that alpha wave state (look it up) very easily in english which makes it supper easy
but in japanese it's more like a beta wave which requires a lot more attention and not my preferred state of being

>> No.38675063

https://youtu.be/U-ACMtNT4Tw?t=145
wtf is this a thing

>> No.38675075

obese groid was insanely toxic and it's good that poster isn't around anymore

>> No.38675092

>>38675058
that's the weirdest and yet sorta coolest cope ive seen, nice

>> No.38675107

>>38675092
not everything is a cope, you know..

>> No.38675113

I bet there is a direct correlation with how toxic a poster is and how fat they are

>> No.38675118

as for me its the ligma waves

>> No.38675170

>>38675113
im pretty toxic and im average weight

>> No.38675177

>he doesn't know about sugma waves

>> No.38675182

>>38675113
yeah chances r the thinner u r the more toxic u r

cuz like if ur fat and an asshole theres no chance for u like fat ppl have to be nice and jolly to compensate but thin attractive ppl can be assholes and get away with it cuz at least we dont gotta carry that weight

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cute anons pretending they are toxic, but im sure you are all cuties irl

>> No.38675232

>>38675113
I'm not toxic at all yet I'm fat, what now

>> No.38675241

>>38675012
>english isn't even your native language
英語は俺にとって第二言語として一番大切な言語なんだ

>> No.38675243

Yeah, I'm not toxic at all because I learned how to love life and the world around me again

>> No.38675246

>>38675170
I sense obesity in your future

>>38675232
I sense a fit body and a cute girl in your future

>> No.38675253 [DELETED] 

>>38675019
he died of corona last year, no joke. I hated him so I didn't even care.

>> No.38675262

i've been consuming english content every single day for more than a decade
i can't just let go of my baby like that

>> No.38675266

>>38675253
that explains everything

>> No.38675269

I want to simp for og, dont even know what she looks like

>> No.38675285 [DELETED] 

>>38675253
i said ur never going to post again stop that get in the fuckin ground with him

>> No.38675288

>>38675269
same, i just know shes super hot and has a 10/10 manko from other anons descriptions

>> No.38675300

>>38675269
i want you to have the self respect not to make these awful posts

>> No.38675314

>>38674695
but i'm using your name to fight off the discord suckers

>> No.38675320

>>38675300
moe its about your monitor

its off

>>38675269
same og is based

>> No.38675330

はなそ

>> No.38675336

>>38674834
matt was pretty critical of khatz' output.

>> No.38675347

>>38675336
*jealous
ftfy

>> No.38675350

>>38674834
matt never had a thought in his life

>> No.38675363

if loving og is wrong i don't want to be right

>> No.38675375

filtered

>> No.38675383

>>38675336
お金欲しさでだろ

>> No.38675434

>>38675383
he was critical of khatz years and years ago before monetizing anything

>> No.38675452

>>38675434
この人だよ?そしたら
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrAyDf7jzdw

>> No.38675468

>>38675452
after that, when he started learning about pitch accent

>> No.38675481

roses are red
violets are blue
og is a babe
and she knows it too

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38675484

>>38675468

>> No.38675503

>>38675484
whats år siden mean?

>> No.38675506

>>38675484
he was still learning about it. he thought his pronunciation in that video was good at the time. after acquiring pitch accent he said the video was full of mistakes and that he thinks he sounds bad now.

>> No.38675529

matt is a nihongod
not even our own bunko can compete on the same stage as him

>> No.38675548

bet ogs pitch accent is perfect, not too high and not too low but just creamy melty delicious on your ears nnnghhh

>> No.38675551

>>38675452
そうだら

>> No.38675586

>>38675529
俺のことはいいんよ

>> No.38675594

>>38675503
år = year
for ... siden = ago

>> No.38675599

pitch is impossible for foreigners trust
you will make mistakes
and you will always sound foreign

like, to correct your pitch it requires autism to memorize all the words you learned again but this time with the correct pitch

so after like 5 years you finally become "fluent (99% of vocab you understand)
but your pitch is probably max at like 50%
so you have to go autistically back and study everything again in the correct pitch so there goes another 5 years of your life.

>> No.38675616

pitch is not something you can intuit

>> No.38675623

>>38675599
thats not how it works, you just learn how it works then your brain will factor it in when you are immersing so you just learn the word with the right pitch by ear

>> No.38675634

>>38675623
>>38675616

>> No.38675652

who gives a fuck about bitch accent

(i do but only on a philosophical level)

but who actually gives a fuck about it? quizmaster is gay but he has the right idea about language learning when it comes to pronunciation

>> No.38675654

>>38675634
you're wrong
if you are aware that it exists then you will come to hear it when you listen

>> No.38675672

yea i'd compare pitch to singing ability
yea you can hear whitney houston all day long
you can learn the mechanics as to how to sing well
but you will not hit her notes without deliberate practice

>> No.38675678

>>38675654
nah,
dogen is a clear example
he still makes mistakes (a lot) and he is the most aware of its existance

>> No.38675681

here's something i can hit without practice *shoves foot up ass*

>> No.38675691

studying pitch even just a little will make it something you automatically notice while listening and keep in mind when reading and speaking
speak with one kansaijin and youre fucked tho i say うれしい kansai style now

>> No.38675694

>>38675616
thats completely wrong
>>38675654
this is right
>>38675548
OG asmr stream when?

>> No.38675725

>>38675678
dogen is autistic and autism is a big problem when it comes to languages, the ginger retard has much better pitch at 1 tenth the effort

>> No.38675727

>>38675691
cuz you're practically still a baby. when you get older you brain will fossilize and you see how tougher it gets

>> No.38675736

yea 100% accurate pitch is impossible
but here's the thing
you don't have to be 100% accurate to sound native

>> No.38675741

>>38675727
yep someone needs neuroplasticity enhancers

>> No.38675774

>>38675727
older brains are more efficient than baby ones
but that means that they throw out useless information instantly. if your brain deems the japanese language as garbage that needs to be taken out you will never learn

you gotta put it into overdrive
all japanese all the time

-khatz

>> No.38675775

i finished the first volume of vagabond in 1 hour. not bad.

>> No.38675827

>>38675725
yabatan just uses the language a shitton and that's how you become fluent enough to the level you can start to play around with purposefully sounding foreign

>> No.38675835

pitch is easy, when you talk with girls in sexy time your voice naturally changes, when you are mad or talk to a baby, or are angry or complaining, same, and you can tell all those emotions when hearing someone speaking in a different language easily and naturally too

pitch is bot cones or colors on cards, its trying to.convey a tone, a feeling, an emotion, like changing intonation when making a question, dogen sounds like a robot, so does matt, orange funny guy sounds human, difference is matt and dogen bring their voice ten octaves lower to sound how they think they should sound but aren't trying to convey an emotion and the disconnect is very obvious

hearing matys japanese makes me anxious and uncomfortable he sounds unnatural and its not cause its bad

>> No.38675836

>>38675775
were you staring at matt's wall?

>> No.38675849

>>38675836
i bet he never read that!

>> No.38675871

>>38675678
the issue is that dogen doesnt actually have as many immersion hours as you might think, you can tell that from his off the cuff speaking

>> No.38675887

>>38675827
i mean yeah but that's a symptom, yabatan wants to talk and play with people and he comes across natural and earnest, he is having fun and wants you to have fun

matt and dogen always seem so uncomfortable and awkward and matt in particular feels like hed rather be doing anything else than talking with you (or at all), and that conveys more than rehearsed tones

>> No.38675911

https://youtu.be/lOhG1HzR3I4?t=760
based

>> No.38675968

>>38675911
haha nice

>> No.38675969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCOtWdbr2dQ
dogen is one of the weakest looking people ive ever seen
he looks like he would literally die if you touched him
looks like some 80s aids patient before they found any treatment

>> No.38676005

>>38675969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFo0H_STV5w

>> No.38676014

>>38676005
wow he really fell off

>> No.38676033

>>38675969
he prolly became a veggie

>> No.38676056

>>38675969
yea not watching that i don't want to get crippled

>> No.38676066

>>38676056
nice self own

>> No.38676079

>>38675969
this but unironically dame his high manko diet is wearing him down

>> No.38676086

>>38674128
what kind of manga do you normally read

>> No.38676099

>>38676005
why does he have no shoulders, arms, or form? the way hes doing those hes gonna break an ankle

>> No.38676108

my worst nightmare is going to japan and getting a home office job.
id be stuck indoors all day and never talk to other humans face to face.

>> No.38676113

>>38676099
come on dude hes pretty ripped

>> No.38676131

>>38676086
whatever i want. if ur a beginner you should try yotsubato or nagatoro

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do you love japan

>> No.38676179

>>38676113
yes and no, hes really low body fat in the flip video, but he's not very strong and he doesn't have good technique either, he has nice pecs somehow but his arms are really small, im guessing he was a runner or similar cause his legs are good but either way his core and technique are off and hes not getting enough rotation and hes also landing wrong, you can see his ankle twist in every landing

watched more and later he has an ankle brace, kek, so i imagine he probably cant do flips anymore cause the way he was landing will fuck you up

>> No.38676181

>>38676165
i love the yukichis

>> No.38676191

>>38676165
dame

>> No.38676194

>>38676165
obasans are bigger
>>38676179
>watched more and later he has an ankle brace,
lol

>> No.38676197

>>38676179
djt has some of the greatest people of our generation
speak on any topic and an expert shall answer

>> No.38676209

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTb_8WgY3s
he still had it a few yrs ago

>> No.38676234

>>38676194
>obasans are bigger
ratio to overall body size is important too

>> No.38676255

>>38676197
>>38676191
dont get me wrong hes doing better than most people and i don't want to seem like im hating, this is what hes trying to do https://youtu.be/n0mNtzltUvE

its unfair cause juji juices, but eh, dogens problem is the ankle joint should always going forward and his landings were putting pressure sideways and thats not a good joint to bend

>> No.38676272

>>38676255
dogen is way better

>> No.38676293

>>38676197
debunked, have hurt my back twice and im literally retarded, i just know how to hurt yourself good cause see above.

>> No.38676296

i have my eye on dogen i have a feeling he's our guy

>> No.38676313

yep dogen won

>> No.38676337

5 months into learning japanese, still don’t know katakana or how は and が work

>> No.38676344

>>38676337
and you'll never will

>> No.38676345

>>38676337
>or how は and が work
takes years no joke

>> No.38676368

>>38676345
jazzy learned it in a couple of months

>> No.38676393

>>38676337
we cant all be jazzy bro

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>>38676368

>> No.38676429

how many cards to learn urdu bros? asking fkr a friend

>> No.38676430

>>38676407
that looks like a fat old man in heavy makeup and a wig

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>>38676337
>still don’t know katakana or how は and が work

>> No.38676452

>>38676429
don't know anything about urdu but look into how long it's been a written language and how well-developed it's poetic tradition is. the more of either, more cards you'll need.

>> No.38676456

>>38676337
tripped me up at first too, は means wa and が means ga

>> No.38676473

>>38676337
well katakana is impossible and not even natives know what they mean
hope this helps

>> No.38676479

>>38676429
it's actually quicker to learn urdu and then japanese than it is to just learn japanese

>> No.38676485

>>38676337
the most important thing is to not make women sad never forget that

>> No.38676489
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38676489

urdu is an indo-european language

>> No.38676494

>>38676479
hows the urdo jk manko equiv?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRMhkqovbwY

>> No.38676510

>>38676489
and turkish is a turkic language but it still has extreme similarity to japanese

>> No.38676513

>>38676502
dame theyre literally the same kanguahe

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>>38676430

>> No.38676535

>>38676494
tastes like curry

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>>38676510
there is a hypothesis that the turkic family and the japonic family come from the same ancestor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

>> No.38676545

>>38676489
languages can be similar without being related

>> No.38676551

>>38676538
a theory that was thrown out in the 70s

>> No.38676560

>>38676527
that's a man lmao

>> No.38676568

>>38676551
>"Despite the validity of many of these objections, it remains unclear whether they are sufficient to completely discredit the hypothesis of a genetic connection between the various branches of “Altaic,” which continues to be actively supported by a small, but stable scholarly minority."

>> No.38676570

isnt altaic a meme at this point

>> No.38676571

>>38676560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKB_W1ZK7LA
no

>> No.38676586

>>38676568
it's a fringe theory that no serious linguist believes

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>>38676586
good thing theres no serious linguistics here
me and a jk

>> No.38676610

Instead of a common genetic origin, Clauson, Doerfer, and Shcherbak proposed (in 1956–1966) that Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic languages form a Sprachbund: a set of languages with similarities due to convergence through intensive borrowing and long contact, rather than common origin.[34][35][36]

Asya Pereltsvaig further observed in 2011 that, in general, genetically related languages and families tend to diverge over time: the earlier forms are more similar than modern forms. However, she claims that an analysis of the earliest written records of Mongolic and Turkic languages shows the opposite, suggesting that they do not share a common traceable ancestor, but rather have become more similar through language contact and areal effects

>> No.38676618

>>38676604
thanks for being a good dad :)

>> No.38676639

optimal learner would be a turkish born chinese-urdu ハーフ
easy perfect n1 after a couple of months of vinny reading

>> No.38676672

>>38676586
>it's a fringe theory that no serious linguist believes
was starostin a serious linguist?

>> No.38676709

>>38676672
now believes

>> No.38676739

>>38676672
don't know who that is what does he have to do with learning japanese?

>> No.38676756

>>38676739
this is not a thread for "learning japanese"
this is the japanese thread

>> No.38676759

i feel sociopathy or contempt or malevolence behind every bunko post so i never feel like i can be friendly to him

>> No.38676768

>>38676759
yeah i believe the term is 奸佞邪知

>> No.38676783

i feel empathy or joy or benevolence behind every bunbro post so i always feel like i can be friendly to him!

>> No.38676784

>>38676759
where dude
i can chill 2

>> No.38676793

>>38676784
you replied lol to dogen hurting his ankle

>> No.38676796 [DELETED] 

>>38676783 is the same guy who posted this >>38674356
it's the worst type of guy. if i were bunko i would tell him to fuck off

>> No.38676803 [DELETED] 

i notice the "nihongod" gave up pretty quickly once the mods starting cracking down on him. so much for his blustering lol. now if only we could get a crackdown on bunko started.

>> No.38676808

>nihongod
who

>> No.38676810

>>38676793
thats out of context ngl
>>38676796
nah hes my bro

>> No.38676813

no-one who matters

>> No.38676838

>>38676407
いつもの女貼るなよキチゲェ

>> No.38676842

>>38676810
that's the type of guy who will stab you when he feels that you didn't reciprocate with the same level of friendship
consider yourself warned

>> No.38676847

the perfect language learner would be someone who has a polyglot parent that teaches them every language since birth

>> No.38676853

>>38676803
they didn't

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>>38676796
take your meds you fucking cocksucking schizophrenic piece of shit i didn't make that post

anonymous is not all the same guy you inbred dipshit cocksucker whore retard

>>38676810
word love bunbro

>> No.38676866

>>38676847
there was that chinese girl, i forgot her name
she could speak a fuckton of languages

>> No.38676875

>>38676866
lingling

>> No.38676879 [DELETED] 

used to be a jamal defender but after he threw the boys under the bus to try and court og even going so far as to pass it off a a joke when it didnt work out for him i had to move on

>> No.38676880

>>38676838
女大好き

>> No.38676888 [DELETED] 

>>38676861
you're an abusive piece of shit who lashes out at the slight sign of confrontation

>> No.38676890

>>38676842
btw i love bunbro unconditionally, you cant drive a wedge between our love because part of why i like him is how much he makes your inbread piece of shit self seethe

>> No.38676901

>>38676888
ohohohoh someone forgot to turn on his monitor, was it you? yes it was! yes it was! bad boy bad!

>> No.38676911

chill dudes

>> No.38676912

>>38676890
you sound stable

>> No.38676917

holy schizo

>> No.38676920

>>38676912
thanks but the time for compliments is past

>> No.38676924

>>38676810
you're low iq lol

>> No.38676945

>>38676924
>>38676888
wow he wasn't wrong, abusive piece of shit detected

>> No.38676950

>>38676924
without a doubt above average but not that high

>> No.38676958

if bunbro revealed just a tenth of his iq youd piss yourself schizo

>> No.38676972

>>38676950
can you seriously not tell it's the same mentally ill guy who spammed mucus manko mlen etc
do you want to call this troll >>38676861 your "bro"

>> No.38676973

>>38676924
how did i know it was you making these posts schizo? the stench of your mental illness precedes you and cant be escaped

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>>38676945
is the first post supposed to be mine?

>> No.38676980

the mentally ill gotta stick together

>> No.38676982

>>38676972
oh its the retard that thinks everyone is the same guy

sup not well anon hows the meds?

>> No.38676983

>>38676972
this

>> No.38676985

>>38676973
i just opened the thread dunno what you're talking about

>> No.38676989

>>38676972
i like all those things

>> No.38676991

mlen guy is not well

>> No.38676998

>>38676991
why is mlen so hysterical, bros?

>> No.38677001

>>38676982
oh it's the retard who thinks everyone who says that is the same guy lol
no need to reply, i don't want to talk to you

>> No.38677005

>>38676989
unfathomably based

>> No.38677010

>>38676989
HOLY FREAKIN BASED AND MLENPILLED

>> No.38677013

lmao the mlen schizo is doing his "talking to himself about his imaginary friend" routine

>> No.38677019

seeing posts like this @10 fills me with rage

>> No.38677023

no idea who mlen is

>> No.38677026

>>38677010
this but unironically

lmao schizos mad

>> No.38677027

>>38677023
mlen is the guy who says "mlenlmao"

>> No.38677032

>>38677023
never will either. you'll just be told to "pay attention" by a weirdo.

>> No.38677033

its the wanikanitard
he even does the same pretending his samefagging isnt obvious routine

>> No.38677037

>>38677023
>>38676998
>>38676991
just some schizo that spams mlen randomly

>> No.38677038

he abuses the report button

>> No.38677040

>>38677027
it's mlenmao get it right mlenmao

>> No.38677048

>>38677019
HOLY FREAKING BASED AND MLENPILLED

>> No.38677055

>>38677023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy37vXLRUZs

>> No.38677056

>>38676980

>> No.38677058

>>38677055
disliked

>> No.38677059 [DELETED] 

>>38676803
what r u on about lol

>> No.38677063

>>38677027
>mlenlmao
what the fuck its mlenmao
https://youtu.be/Iy37vXLRUZs

>> No.38677066 [DELETED] 

>>38677023
i really find it amazing that people as dumb as you exist. i guess the thread deserves this samefag troll. rot away and die, djt

>> No.38677078

>>38677066
that's not fair

>> No.38677079 [DELETED] 

>>38677059
man, use your bitcoins for good. the thread sucks with this "anon is not well" guy. talk with your janny friends or something

>> No.38677081 [DELETED] 

>>38676879
sorry dude i did what i felt like doin if u cant understand and respect that then u were never really ride or die and unconditional

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>>38677063
>>38677055
dame love korone

>> No.38677100 [DELETED] 

>>38677079
i dont have those and for good reason

trust me id love to run the thread by my rules and keep things on track free of offsite trash like literal whos on social media or discord but alas

>> No.38677106

based jamal

>> No.38677112

>>38677079
dame this anon isn't well at all, try reddit maybe its more you

>> No.38677118

>>38677112
says the guy who reports people the most

>> No.38677123

>>38677100
can you make an irc server again please

>> No.38677124

jazzy jealousy rearing its head again hate to see it

>> No.38677147

not sure what there is to be jealous of
this is the intermediate thread so we're all post n1 here

>> No.38677174

>>38674104
You missed the point. You're either ESL or retarded. Or both.

>> No.38677183

>>38677147
youre thinking int

>> No.38677190

>>38677123
dont see the point unless were looking at a massive thread exodus that says fuck schizos and trannys and were going to leave them itt to rot forever

else it just becomes another dumb offsite circlejerk like anything else

id rather run my own futaba clone bc forums posting is ftw and irc is secondary to that

>> No.38677193

>>38677183
int is still talking about particles and grammar and shit all day every day

>> No.38677203

>>38677193
based

>> No.38677204

>>38677190
make a phpbb forum

>> No.38677210

>>38677193
kyodorus

>> No.38677229

>>38677204
with siggies and everything

if i made a forum like that it would be pay to post though but i would donate all the money to charity with proof
pay 2 post is just a proven model to improve community quality

>> No.38677234

>>38677190
make a djt board on 8ch or something similar?

>> No.38677247

never had a job so never had access to paid forums

>> No.38677266

exactly

>> No.38677318

ff14 main story must be the longest vinny ever made

>> No.38677342

>>38677318
thats why i wont ever play it again

im so far behind now and i dont care about all that shit i just wanna get in and do hardmodes and get loot

>> No.38677353

>>38677342
the later xpac stories are supposed to be decent apparently
im still on the first game

>> No.38677354

>>38677318
When does it get good? I tried it for like 30 levels and it was the most boring shit ever

>> No.38677379

>>38677354
like i said above i havent played it that much but
the story has some good parts at like level 50 or so and supposedly gets more interesting later
the dungeons are pretty fun once the bosses have actual mechanics n shit
the combat is pretty fun once you unlock most of your abilities
but yeah it's not amazing

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>>38677354
it gets good at ishgard, liberators is pretty meh but villains is pure kino

>> No.38677672

>>38672307
Cos ESL's here are always spanish, and spanish and english are extremely closely related.
It takes like 2 weeks to learn english when you know spanish, and vice versa.

>> No.38677689

>>38672532
I saw him jogging one morning and he had his arms back like naruto. I said hey man i recognise you from youtube and he said thanks bro, and he reckons holding your arms back like that makes you go faster.

>> No.38677710

>>38672664
Amazing book. Couldn't put it down.

>> No.38677722

>>38672664
sorry but as an intermediate learner i am far past the point where english textbooks could possibly be of any use to me

>> No.38677734

>>38672698
It explains how japanese works in an entertaining way.

>> No.38677763

>>38672851
People in the comments saying he "fixed" the japanese text. This is what's wrong with video game localization - americans always come in and say they have to "fix" things - either by censorship, or just arbitrary re-writes.

>> No.38677775

>>38677763
who cares though. in my opinion eops deserve what they get. why should we get angry on their behalf about an issue that doesn't affect us.

>> No.38677783

>>38673028
Japanese natives don't have 100% comprehension of Japanese novels.
Go back to your shounen manga, mate.

>> No.38677796

>>38677722
false

>> No.38677806

>>38673412
>on kojimas level
Kojima is an atrociously bad writer... He's a good ideas guy, but his writing is george lucas tier.

>> No.38677812

>>38677783
a professor at an elite university should have much better comprehension than an average japanese native lol. that's like saying there are english natives who don't have 100% comprehension of english novels, well duh, the majority of people are actually extremely stupid and don't even read books at all.

>> No.38677856

>>38677672
esl's what?

>> No.38677863

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tweglbvliMY

>> No.38677898

>>38677806
thats why i said
>not even on kojimas level
which implies that it's not a particularly high level
but perhaps you arent fit to judge writing quality when your reading comprehension is that low?

>> No.38678274

>>38677856
are 超based

>> No.38679832

>>38672814
i'm supposed to think the guy who can't even figure out 方 has figured out は, yeah lol

>> No.38680291

>>38679832
the 方 criticism is so ironic because the djt midwits don't realize that if you open any pre-war book you'll see the reading given as かた in furigana all the time.

>> No.38681156

>>38680291
>pre-war book
jamal has probably never read any and it's not relevant to modern japanese

>> No.38681661

hope new thread isn't an iturazenko spam thread

>> No.38681711

>>38680291
post example

>> No.38683383

>>38681711
isn't that the kanji that Mr. Miyagi uses when he teaches his karate in his dojo?

>> No.38683495

no motivation to use anki at all anymore just wanna read lots and 引く my 辞書
am i still gmi?

>> No.38683651

>>38683495
giving up anki is the first domino
then the rest fall
and you quit

>> No.38683752

>>38683651
i've read over 200 hours without anki so far and i'm having a great time

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