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Worst mistake in Japan's history.

>He thinks that /jp/ isn't glad those little gremlins lost the war

>using day/month/year format
>us

Are you even American?

>3864490

No, But my great-grandfather (RAAF Medical officer)died during Sandakan Death March.

The sins of our grandfathers are not our sins.

We baited them to do it so we had an excuse to get involved in the World War.

Daily dose of anti-Japan asshurt. Go pay for overpriced health care, fail at wars, have a plummeting economy, etc, more damn 'merikans.

>>3864512
butthurt much

>>3864512
Glorious Nippon defense force member, also known as Idolfags.

I don't know why /jp/ has this image associated with us where we're constantly fawning over anything that was ever associated with Japan.

Most of us agree that Japan needed a good steel boot in the ass back in the day. It's not like we deny that Pearl Harbor/The Rape of Nanking/Unit 731 didn't happen.

>>3864542
Actually don't we promote historical facts like Japan had every ounce of fire bombing and radiation coming to it?

>>3864542
Protip: they know nothing of why /jp/ was created.
Imagine your new to a site and your 14. In that site there is a board about Japan, for the purpose of this example you don't read VNs, play touhou et cetera. How would you try to troll said board?

Pearl Harbor is American propaganda. Every civilized 1st world country is taught that. Only American's believe otherwise. Even then, a little research shows the truth about it.

VN's and shit would not have happened if it were not for WWII and Japan's unconditional surrender.

>>3864552 IN elite !EienTEi9N6

FUCK YOU WEIIRUU AND A FUCK YOU DORUFINNNN

>>3864490
Oho! Good catch.

Pear Harbor: Americans are too stupid to defend their shit.

Hiroshima/ Nagasaki: war crimes. Acts of cowardice.

Look at who is butthurt about it though. It seems you are.

>>3864458
stop spamming ur shitty board on Ａ ｎ o ｎ t ａ ｌ ｋ . com

The sins of our grandfathers are not our sins.

>>3864708
Yes they are. If you inherit someone's genes you also inherit their past burden. Nobody just starts with a clean slate. You think you've got YOURSELF to thank for being intelligent/good-looking/artistic/strong/etc.? No, you were given these qualities by your forefathers. And likewise, you were given their sins. You can't just take the good stuff and not make up for the bad. If your parents committed crimes, YOU are partly responsible.

It's up to you if you want to make up for it, and whether you think you will be rewarded for these acts in the next life.

>>3864781
Yea, yea, my ass. Now run along and play the big kids are talking.

>>3864781
>implying anyone other than greedy jews would find it morally agreeable to base their happiness on the suffering of others who are not directly related to a certain crime

>>3864792
God does. You wanna argue against God?

There is no justification for the atomic bombing on cities, certainly not an attack on a military base.
Not even mentioning the fire-bombing.

>>3865337
The justification was that we had atomic bombs.

Want to disagree with that reasoning? Do you have nuclear weapons? No? Well then I do believe this argument is over.

greetings OP, I see you don't know that /jp/ doesn't care about Japan or its people, just the shit they make like VNs and Touhou etc.

Consider yourself enlightened newfriend, no one gives a shit.

>>3865466
>Do you have nuclear weapons?
Enough to blow up the world 10 times over.
The Japanese were going to surrender, everyone knew if we just demonstrated the bomb to them they would of surrendered.
Truman got a fucking hard on after the first tests and went mad in the atomic age like so man fucked up scientists.

inb4 prevented the so called land invasion of Japan argument

>>3864781
>No, you were given these qualities by your forefathers.
You get basics for them, not the actual qualities. Genes aren't worth shit if you don't develop yourself.

>The Japanese were going to surrender, everyone knew if we just demonstrated the bomb to them they would of surrendered.
>Truman got a fucking hard on after the first tests and went mad in the atomic age like so man fucked up scientists.
How much times are you /n/iggers going to argue about this? Everything that was needed to be said about the a-bombs has already been said in detail by smarter people on usenet groups.

>>3865498
>smart
>usenet
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Problem, Faery?

Well, most of us agree that japan is a basically a pile of retarded, arrogant, xenophobic fuckers, cuddling together on a few tiny islands.

BUT WHY THE HELL IS THEIR 2D PORN SO ENJOYABLE?!!!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

>>3865478
>The Japanese were going to surrender, everyone knew if we just demonstrated the bomb to them they would of surrendered.
Yeah, that's why they instantly surrendered after the first one was dropped, right?

>>3865664
After the first bomb was dropped, the Japanese did write up their surrender terms but fucking Truman went wild again just a few days later.

>>3865590
>>3865594
>>3865598
what game is this?

You folks/faggots always ignore the demand for unconditional surrender. Get that through your skull, the Allies agreed to only accept unconditional surrender. This was a non negotiable demand. The Japanese dicked around and tried to ignore it.

>>3865470
Posts like these are more annoying than the shitty troll threads themselves.

>>3866290

It was a demand that was *designed* to make the Japanese unwilling to accept.

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But, but, but. You faggots never give up trying to rewrite history.

Japan was fucking criminal. Nothing you are going to say is going to change the fact that they got what was coming to them and in reality got off easy.

China still wants a piece of them over WW2 and before.

>>3866301
Someone is trying to rob you. He has a gun and says "Give me all your money" and you reply with "That's unacceptable, I can give you 50 bucks from my 100 bucks". He shoots you.

>>3866290
And you folks always ignore the asswhooping the Japanese took in Manchuria just before they surrendered. The Soviets had as much, if not more, to do with Japan's surrender than the A-bombs.

Think about this for a moment- the number of people killed, mostly civilians, in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings was equivalent to MORE THAN 50% of the TOTAL US casualties in the ENTIRE war.

I don't think you'll find much disagreement that Japan had an ass-kicking coming, but it's tenuous at best to claim that the US decision to incinerate a few hundred thousand civilians in order to get at a couple minor military targets and "prevent further casualties" was reasonable or in any way justified. A big part of it was just to test the bombs in a real situation and demonstrate them to the Soviets in the gear-up for the Cold War.

Americans love to bitch about the skewed or revisionist history taught in other countries, but they rarely take more than a superficial look at what they're doing themselves.

>>3865498 Everything that was needed to be said about the a-bombs has already been said in detail by smarter people on usenet groups.
And most everything they have said has been said by even smarter people in history books and Ph.D. theses.

>>3866344 The Soviets had as much, if not more, to do with Japan's surrender than the A-bombs.

Hirohito had been trying to convince the military to end the war since April of '45 for just that reason. He knew the Russians were still angry for 1905 and wanted the peace to be with America alone (Russia had yet to enter the war against Japan, but it was only a matter of time) so that Hokkaido didn't wind up speaking Russian in 1946.

I fucking hate Japan.

Except for their public transit system, and video games and stuff. I guess if I ever had to have sex with a 3D woman I'd prefer a Japanese girl too.

>3866344
This.
Also
Truman was truly fucked up in the head, the bombings took a toll on him over the decades as they should of.
Worst part is he fucking trolled our Navy and stole the "victory"

>>3866344
Baahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

DIAHF

Your pure hate for the USA is obvious.

The two atomic bombs are not only bombs themselves.

But the heart and soul of Korean and Chinese people.

In Korea we celebrated the bombing by lighting off fireworks, symbolising the flames of eternity that shall burn in our hearts as the unholy warcries of the japanese fades into oblivion.

Too long has Koran suffered under japanese rule, the bombs is final justice.

>>3866392
I have a feeling the Chinese were happier than the Coreans.

Why does everyone insist that Japan was going to surrender? There's evidence they WEREN'T going to surrender, the preparation for a land invasion, the military overlords trying to keep the emperor under house arrest to prevent him from surrendering, even teaching children how to make bamboo spears to kill soldiers during a land invasion. You really have to ignore some very relevant aspects of history to conclude they were going to surrender.

Sure Truman was determined to drop the bombs regardless of what anyone said, sure much of the reason was to keep Russia out of Japan, sure it was to show the world the power of the atomic bomb, but the bulk of the reason was still to prevent the US from needing to make a land invasion that would cost millions of lives, would have included Russia, and would have split Japan into communist and democratic Japan.

Quit whining all you butthurt faggots. The US did the right thing.

Really, /jp/? Really?

Shame on you /jp/. Even old /n/ thought these threads were embarrassing.

>prevent the US from needing to make a land invasion that would cost millions of lives
Cool completely blown out of proportion estimates, inflating with every butthurt defense of one of the largest human atrocities in human history.
Estimates from within the military put estimated U.S. casualties from the never going to happen invasion at 40k-60k.

>nd would have split Japan into communist and democratic Japan.
And how did that work out for Korea? Oh wait...

>>3866392
>Too long has Koran suffered under japanese rule, the bombs is final justice.

what the fuck has muslims to do with japan?

>>3866421
More Bahhhhhhh!!!

>>3866344
Civilians? This was total war. Nobody was innocent unless they actively sought to end the war themselves. You work in a factory building bombs you're just as culpable as those who drop them. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were industrial centers that took part in the war effort. It was decided early on that 'civilians' on both sides were part of the war and with Japan's utter belief in the divinity of their emperor it's doubtful any of them didn't take part in the war directly or indirectly.

My grandfather built ceramics during the war, if his factory had the shit blown out of it and he died nobody would have screamed about killing innocents. Even as a civilian he was part of the war.

>Nobody was innocent unless they actively sought to end the war themselves.
I'm not going to even touch that extremist view point.

>It was decided early on that 'civilians' on both sides were part of the war
It was also decided that the U.S. would firebomb civilians to "demoralize" their Army.
And to detonate the bomb specifically to maximize the scorch capability they KNEW would happen.

Oh come on mods. Why is this thread still here?

>>3866442
We also bombed the fuck out of Berlin, Germany also bombed the fuck out of London, you don't complain about that, nope, it's just the US and the A Bomb as if that's the only thing that happened against civilians. Once again. TOTAL WAR. It was understood and agreed upon on all sides that civilians were part of the war effort and therefore fair game.

Now fuck off

Why you Baaaaaaah! So hard?

Oh I know you just hate the USA no matter what.

December 7th
>just as planed day

>>3866427
>>3866455
People like you are the reason there will never be any semblance of peace on this planet.

Nowaday, World dislikes Korea and China.

>>>3866455
Yeah, I've never heard anyone complain about Dresden.

People dying is bad. They are already dead. Let's get back to touhou, animu, etc

>>3866455 It was understood and agreed upon on all sides that civilians were part of the war effort and therefore fair game.
That's a whole new and special kind of bullshit. Show me the document where this was agreed to.

If it was agreed that civilians were fair game, please explain to me how and why people were tried and convicted for, among other things, acts of war against civilian populations during the Nuremburg and Tokyo War Crimes Tribunals.

And before you head down the victor's justice road, let me say the thing I love about that line of thinking is that no matter what your side did it was absolutely justified because everybody else was doing it too, but everybody else was purely evil and unjustified in their actions. That's a very enlightened viewpoint, I tell you what.

>>3866479
Actually people do complain about Dresden. There are numerous books devoted to the subject. However it really has nothing to do with an argument about Japan.

Besides, how does the fact that the Allies intentionally bombed large civilian populations in Europe make doing the same in Asia more justifiable?

>>3866344

Who gives how many Jap civilians were killed? They fucking deserve for acting like the arrogant, soulless xenophobic fucks they are. Even now, they deserve another nuke. Japan's people must grovel like the disgusting gooks they are.

>>3866956

Hurp derp generalizations.

>>3866956 They fucking deserve for acting like the arrogant, soulless xenophobic fucks they are. Even now, they deserve another nuke.
>disgusting gooks
Let me get this straight, they deserved to be nuked because they are arrogant and xenophobic. And you are...?

>>3866328
Not a very wise idea to use an analogy depicting America as a mugger for your side of the argument.

Anyway, to people crying about the atomic bombs, I just say: Unit 731.

>>3867615
The Japanese military conducting secret experimentation on captives in China makes it OK to kill 200,000 civilians who were unaware that such things were going on and, even if they would have been aware, were completely powerless to do anything about it? Should we slaughter 6 million German civilians to make up for the Jews too?

Japan's criminal actions during WWII, such as Unit 731, are totally inexcusable, but you don't punish one crime against humanity with another.

If you take into account that part of the reason the bombs were dropped on Japan was to test them in actual combat, it could be considered experimenting on civilian populations as well.

It's interesting to hear people attempt to claim the moral high ground in the war while at the same time advocating the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of people who had little or no knowledge of what was happening and no control over it whatsoever.

Bear in mind that Japan was NOT a democracy at that time, and nothing short of a full-scale civil war could have enabled citizens to put up any serious opposition to the war. By the time the US was involved, pretty much all of the anti-war protesters, political radicals, and others that posed a problem to the Japanese government had been jailed or executed. All anti-war movements were hastily and thoroughly crushed. Information was tightly controlled at all levels. This was not happy shiny fun time for everyday Japanese civilians. They either went on with their normal lives as much as they could, or they faced whatever punishment the government dealt out for their transgressions.