/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Who are you talking about specifically?

They were always around

> Who are you talking about specifically?


The random lets try translating with ATLAS guys showing up on TLWiki, idiots on encubed, the Baldr Sky idiot on /jp/.

>>3834969
There has always been plenty, but they usually do scanlations, or anime. Lately it seems as though they've been moving into the VN scene though.

Perhaps in a year or two, they will be successful enough in their studies to translate properly, and still be interested visual novels.

Shouldn't be surprising. As said by a couple other people, there have always been these idiots elsewhere. With the popularity of Visual Novels increasing, they will show up more and more. I suppose also there are a lot more things that are untranslated and not being translated that the community wants to see get fucking translated in the VN community then the current anime/manga communities as well, making some games perfect for attention whores to try and translate.

>>3835086
Speaking of Animu and VN translation, I'm sure we're all pretty tired of only the top-rated VN's being translated by one group, taking ages most of the time, while nearly every Animu series is translated within a few days of each episode being aired by multiple groups.

>>3835086
It's great that tlwiki bunch are very selective regarding projects hosted at their site. The GSS guy was kicked due to usual resort to edited ATLAS. They didn't spare any experienced reverse-engineer/coder for dubious projects too; hacking VNs is like a secret trade at this point.

Such preventive measure is necessary to maintain VN tl quality that trickles down to this yet mainstream community. Anything but going down the drain too soon like manga and anime translation.

>>3835192
But that's the charm of VN. In most cases, you just need to install and play until the end. VN medium is like movie/book where everything is served to you right away. Unlike new anime/manga with one week gap between each episodes.

And yeah, translating a 20-minutes anime episode is way unlike translating a 20-hours visual novel with wall of text and code. VN translation is more collaborative than manga/anime.

>>3835216
>hacking VNs is like a secret trade at this point.

Reverse Engineering is not a common skill. You really can't easily teach it, only those who want to learn it can learn it. It isn't hidden information, but it requires skills most don't know.

Out of curiosity, what skills are typically needed for reverse engineering?
Beginning computer science/engineeringfag here.

>>3835234
>But that's the charm of VN. In most cases, you just need to install and play until the end. VN medium is like movie/book where everything is served to you right away. Unlike new anime/manga with one week gap between each episodes.

Judging by partial and complete download numbers given out by groups, it seems that vastly more people wait for the final version than playing partials.

Where the fuck did all these "Even though I don't know much English, let me trying posting a thread" idiots suddenly come from?

>>3835336
Knowing assembly might help. That's the oldschool way of doing it, though. There might be an easier method out there that I'm not aware of.

>>3834969
I noticed they've popped up in increasing frequency after Ixrec's debut. They probably aspire to be a SUPASTA translator like him, what with all the attention that's been drawn to him lately.

>>3835336
>>3835575

Damn, I should've saved that link... look in easymodo for the Hatsukoi translation effort. I think it was either the second or third thread where the dude that hacked it was explaining what was going on.
There's a link to a page showing the basics of VN hacking.
And no, it's not in assembly. It's all hex.
From what I remember, it was look into the files using a hex viewer. Determine which compression technique is used and work from there. In Perl.
Why Perl? Because it can already undo certain compression algorithms...

http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Tools
Tools are available, but how to use them well or customize it to specific games are different matter entirely.

>>3835826
Hatsukoi was not hacked by a dude.

>>3835680
>I noticed they've popped up in increasing frequency after Ixrec's debut
All... one of them?