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I made this thread.

>>38047640
>There is a higher chance of your brain briefly forming in a void complete with memories of living than there is of you actually existing on earth.
Based on what data?

>>38047666
Data is part of that said void. I'm a figment of your void as well. You are the only real consciousness. Interpret it as you may.

>>38047666
>>38047696
Nuh uh both of you are figments of my consciousness

>>38047640
>There is a higher chance of your brain briefly forming in a void complete with memories of living than there is of you actually existing on earth.
I call bullshit. If anything, there is no mechanism that forces these memories to make sense, I would have a random combination of memories and ideas, shuffled in some wild order.
It seems much more plausible that my consciousness arose in my physical brain, and that the people around me, who act in the same way as I, and who likewise possess a similar brain, experience the world through a similar consciousness.
It's inference, but it's the simpler explanation.
Let's put it this way:
>There is a higher chance of your blood-filled dick briefly forming in a void complete with false neural stimuli of being vigorously stroked than there is of you actually having edged for half an hour before that.
Somehow people can get away with spine-braking mental gymnastics when it's the consciousness, or at least their vague understanding of it.
This is /jp/, so have a small Koishi eating puddi~

>>38049393
You've completely understood the argument, yet rightly reject the consequences: basically, given an infinite time, almost any configuration of material will arise an infinite number of times. Which is why during this infinite span of time, there'll be an infinite amount of disembodied penises, consciousnesses with a completely inconsistent and alien set of ideas and memories, and also copies of you. This means that most iterations of you will be Boltzmann brains, which is clearly absurd.
The movement of the particles that would make up the brain is determined by physical laws, and are not random. It may just be that it's truly physically impossible to form anything that exhibits your consciousness without also forming you, your parents, their parents, and ultimately our real world. We're all connected - our fight against the absurd Boltzmann brains require it!

>>38047640
why did my brain make such a miserable reality for me to live in?

the kind of shit I find on /jp/...
sartre would hate koishi and all koishifags

>>38049619
>given an infinite time
An infinite time where the required work can be done. I don't see why this should be a given. The universe itself isn't infinitely old, furthermore, most models I've read about set a limit to its maximum age, or given the tendency of entropy, at least a finite time where work (read a change in the configuration of materials) can happen. In a perfectly entropic universe, your materials can't reassemble to form your brain, even given infinite time.
Even considering the possibility of a universe in an oscillating state, and a non-deterministic starting point, not all configurations are possible. To use your example, you can't get 5 kings in a deck just from shuffling it.
Finally, for your physical hardware to manifest (I assume you accept consciousness needs a physical medium, as you keep talking about brains), and the shuffling to occur, you need some kind of material "resetter", a re-emerging space-time or something similar, which builds up and breaks down. The whole argument hinges on the probability of the start of the universe from occurring and given that both models require at least that.
In the case of the void brain, you need an infinite amount of Big Bangs, of at least enough to beat the odds of a functional brain with my memories to arrange. You would have a sea of half brains and brains fighting their own memories for that to happen, though. With no overarching mechanism sorting the memories.
In the other case, You just need a universe vast enough to permit at least one instance of life occurring and long-lived enough to have it reach a point at which consciousness to be possible, plus-minus some retries, and form a consciousness permitting brain from among a population with similar traits in an environment of gradually emerging organisms. No half brains needed.
You want to beat the creation of the universe because of its vastness by filling a multiverse with individual brains.

>>38047640
That's a midwit take. The big and smol brain take is
>whatever, man
>I just like cute anime girls

>>38057999
Who are you quoting, crossie?