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>> No.37701124

>>37698242
Ano bad.

>> No.37702326

I downloaded the "Moongate rooms and NPCs" zip from the mods pastebin, but I have no idea what to do with the files. Please advise?

>> No.37702745

>>37702326
Copy paste them into the user folder If I recall

>> No.37703274

>>37702745
Loose? That kinda tickles my tism, but I'll try it. Thanks.

>> No.37704360

What's a good resolution to play in? 800x600 is annoying to use and making it 1600x1200 isn't a good solution to the problem either

>> No.37704411

>>37704360
I'm on a laptop and I'm really comfortable with 1024x768

>> No.37704682

How do I prevent getting brainwashed?

>>37701124
Stunning and brave.

>> No.37705208

Elona x SaGa.

>> No.37705315

>>37698242
Okay, what to do with this game, im retarded

>> No.37705413

>>37705315
You can do whatever you want.
Wanna marry a bike?
Wanna kill the gods?
Wanna evade taxes?

>> No.37705679

>>37705413
I dont know how to play this type of games, tell me the ways of what should i look for?

>> No.37705952

>>37705679
1. Learn the basic controls (press ? for help)
2. Get to Vernis and receive a complimentary little girl
3. Think you're hot shit with your new pet and die a gorillion times in the puppy cave
4. Die even harder in the slime extermination quest
5. Die considerably less in the bandit killing quest. Maybe you'll even complete it.
6. Press spacebar in the map and realize the enemies are easy here and you could have trained this way from the start
7. Avenge your past self and rescue the damn dog in the puppy cave.
8. Die some more in the slime quest, but eventually manage to triumph thanks to some cleverness on your part.

>> No.37706008

>>37705952
Oh fuck, sorry for wasting your time, the game crashes on me every time i try to create character or read a fucking prologue.

>> No.37706065
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37706065

>>37706008
Has anyone faced this piece of code?

>> No.37706381

>>37706065
It pops up from time to time in these threads but I can't remember what it's about.

>> No.37708146,1 [INTERNAL] 

https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/tag/2.07.2.0

>> No.37706920

>>37706065
use win7 compat mode.

>> No.37707134

>trying to get the puppy with no leash
Just fucking kill me.

>> No.37707193

>>37701124
Ano good

>> No.37708146
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37708146

>>37706920
>new thread STILL doesn't have the old error explanations
Get it together, OP.

>> No.37709859

It's the first day of the festival in Noyel and I got a lucky day. Anything special I can try to do with that?

>> No.37710136

I got the latest version of custom gx, and i want to play 1080p fullscreen but it gives me error 1 after loading char no matter what even after setting win7 comp mode. Ok then i try to settle for 1600x900 and it seemingly crashes after alt-tabbing for a minute or so, or just walking around for a bit. This doesn't seem to happen on 1280x720. Any fixes for this? Thanks.

>> No.37711726

>>37704682
I don't think you can totally prevent it but you can learn what enemies can do it and deal with them first.

>> No.37712055

>>37706920
No dice, still pops up as usual

>> No.37713075

I hit a spellcaster with a panty which made him get confused and summon a bunch of monsters which were friendly with me and one of them was a bomb rock which proceeded to self-destruct and kill everybody.

>> No.37716828
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37716828

Any Elin news?

>> No.37717824

>>37706065
2.07.2.0 was released recently and is supposed to fix more crashes.
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/tag/2.07.2.0

>> No.37718138
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37718138

Didn't know this was possible.

>> No.37719028

>>37717824
Will check this tomorrow, thanks!

>> No.37721058

>>37718138
What's the pay?

>> No.37724815

>>37709859
Not particularly.

>> No.37725127

>>37716828
Noa is having trouble with schizophrenia but he thinks he can get the game ready to put on early access on steam and NZ has been making progress on character portraits.

>> No.37726372

>>37725127
I thought the schizo shit is a meme

>> No.37726772

>>37726372
Unfortunately, no.

>> No.37732329

Do anons here use the magnetism special actions?

>> No.37734064

>>37732329
Is it even useful?

>> No.37734320

Should I upgrade from Elona + Custom-G to GX? Is there a Beautify pack for it?

>> No.37734944

>>37734320
I would recommend playing on CGX and using the in-game menu to disable all the post 1.90 buffs. Beautify is a bit out of date, but it probably shouldn't be hard to patch it yourself.

>> No.37735561

Any reliable way to get low level monster balls in act 1?

>> No.37737335

>>37735561
Yes,craft 'em via pot for fusion (there's a spawning 4-dimentional mirror at the adventurer seminar)

>> No.37737582

>>37712055
also try running in admin mode.

from what I remember it's only necessary at the beginning.

>> No.37737687

>>37726772
Maybe he really is a 'Targeted Individual'

>> No.37737722

>Martial Arts can get up to 7 extra attacks. Wielding shields or claws/tonfas lowers this number. Additionally, having extra hands gives no hit penalties, however, all your hands must be empty, effectively turning those hands into wasted bodyslots.
From the first pastebin.
Does this mean having more than two hands isn't recommended for MA?

>> No.37737929

>>37737722
ideal martial artist is a mutant with just one hand. or one of the debug races with no hands.

>> No.37737960

>>37737929
Perfect for me because it's for a pet with barely any slots.

>> No.37742450

How do I go about updating the game? I'm still on Plus 2.06 with the 2.06fix version of GX. Do I just drop the new files over my installation or is there a more elegant solution (don't want to lose my settings and custom assets after all)?

>> No.37743039

>>37742450
You should have your saves and customizations backed up anyway.

>> No.37745378

>>37743039
I'm mainly asking because some games freak out at dropping an update over an installation, so I need to know if I can do that, or if I need to copy my saves and such over to a freshly unzipped game folder.

>> No.37745432

I'm in a shelter that has a royal clothwork training machine. It's weight is listed at 24s, and my strength is 48, but when I try to steal it I get told that it's too heavy. The wiki says I should have exactly enough strength to steal it. What's the problem?

>> No.37745573

>>37745432
It's probably like 24.001s and you have exactly enough for 24s.

>> No.37745901

>>37737929
Hol up. From the changelog (1.91):
>Changed the accuracy of Martial Arts attacks so that it is on par with weapon attack accuracy. However, this accuracy now also has a percentage bonus depending on the number of hands. (No bonus when user only has 1 hand; bonus maxes out at 4 hands.) Martial artists do wear protective gear, after all.
Does this change anything or are hands still useless?

>> No.37746282

>>37745573
yeah, I drank a hero potion and just got caught instead, apparently stealing even light furniture takes a lot of turns

>> No.37751098

>>37745901
I don't think it makes Hand better than Neck or Arm or anything. Probably more like a consolation prize for those with built-in Hands.

>> No.37751246

>>37745378
Do not copy over the entire game folder. It can screw up your game. Instead copy over your save folder and your custom assets into a new game folder that contains 2.07. I think the full update instructions are also translated in the readme.

>> No.37756960

Dude in front of cyberdome wants me to kill lvl 15 monsters and gave me a playback disk. I can't find anything about the disk on the wiki. What is it for? Do I need to keep it with me for his quest or something?

>> No.37757070

>>37756960
I think playback discs are just for revisiting cutscenes, they have absolutely nothing to do with any quest.

>> No.37760919

>>37746282
Normally I'd teleport other NPCs away and/or use wall creation to keep them away while stealing. Not sure how viable that is in a shelter, though, since it's a pretty small area...

>> No.37765332
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37765332

>mfw high potion of wisdom + fixity anchor + rampage + provoke + 4 rounds of burst ammo with lvl10 living sniper rifle

>> No.37769201

It has been a few months since I last played, I updated from 2.06 GX to 2.07 GX and even while opening the game from gx, I still get hit by some changes from normal plus like thirst. Did I mess up while adding the latest GX or is it supposed to be like this?

>> No.37769275

>>37769201
there's a tweak setting that would remove all that shit and more

>> No.37769412

>>37769275
I'm actually trying to find them so I can fix this but I'm sure I'm overlooking something and can't find it.

>> No.37769481

>>37769412
I'm fucking retarded, finally found it.

>> No.37771917

Since most sites with spritesheets for PCCs are dead, where do you find new ones nowadays? Is it better to just make them?

>> No.37772747

>>37771917
Mostly this site or searching around for ”elona 差し替え画像" on Google.
https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/

The graphics pack Beautify also contains a shitload of Plus compatible PCC sprites.

Making them is kind of hard unless you can make dot art or find some rpg-maker sprites that you can convert or something.

>> No.37772817
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37772817

>stroll into /jp/ a week ago to see how Elona is doing
>no thread
>panic
>come back today
>it's fine
Thanks god. I missed you guys.

>> No.37775641

Do pets have stamina or can they spam actions nonstop?

>> No.37775940
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37775940

>>37772817
Missed you niggers too. Elona will never die, I'll make sure of that.

>> No.37776049 [SPOILER] 
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37776049

>>37772817
one day I will cuck bethel by fucking Larnneire right beside him

>> No.37776247

I'm playing E+C 1.90 (the version in the OP pastebins). I've failed to find any custom changelogs. Am I correct that the custom version number corresponds to the same + version number? And were there any custom releases between 1.90 and 1.99 that I'm failing to find? I really just want the pet arena god heart rewards that were (apparently) added in 1.93. I guess I can cheat them in somehow if I can't win them legit?

>> No.37776344

>>37775641
They do have and need stamina for their special actions, unless they're using custom AI. In that case, each special action instead uses a sort of private stamina pool, so if it spams an action and spends it, it can still use the rest just fine.

>> No.37778713

>>37776049
Bethel daughterzoned Elishe.

>> No.37778860

>>37778713
*hits drug kiseru*

>> No.37779501

If I eat zwiebel can it spawn again?

>> No.37779509

>>37772747
Thank you friend.
I suppose I'll try to edit one for the character I want to make and share it with you guys later.

>> No.37779575

>>37779501
If it was identified you can get another with the little sister rewards.

>> No.37779581

I've been thinking of getting into Omake Overhaul, where should I start?

>> No.37779726

>>37779575
I haven't eaten it yet, I was just wondering if it's a possible recurring source of EoM training. Wouldn't waste little sisters on it.

>> No.37779804

>>37779726
>The <Zwiebel> (a green onion when unidentified) is a Staff weapon that's randomly dropped by farmers in Elona+ (1/200). It can be found both in Yowyn and in party quests.
Sounds like combat would be far quicker.

>> No.37780258

>>37779804
Well I'm not gonna stop killing just because I eat the thing. I have it and just wanted to know if it might appear again when I do eat it. I suspect yes, since I've got multiples of Larny's dagger by having one in a 4d pocket, but I wanted to ask people more experienced than me. Like maybe there's some "don't generate this again" flag that gets tripped when it's picked up or something.

>> No.37780332

>>37780258
Only precious artifacts dropped by bosses or awarded for completing quests can appear only once naturally, and many of those bosses can be fought again in the Void anyway.

>> No.37780846

>>37776247
There has been no Custom edition from 1.91 to 1.99. If you're worried about Ano's experience fuckery and DESTINY and ask that, Custom-GX can toggle those off.

>> No.37781423

>>37780846
and all that*

>> No.37783016

I have a hoarding problem. Aside from the 4d mirror, are there any containers or furniture that I can use to store items outside of the inventory/location limits?

>> No.37783888

>>37783016
There are furnitures that have limited storage for certain types of items. Just check around the embassy or whatever

>> No.37786812

>>37783016
what you actually need is to compile a list of items that aren't useful, and just ignore them when you pick up things.

>> No.37788874

>>37783016
Store your shit in maps that are not reset like the basements in Vernis and Yowyn, dungeons like the yeek cave, pyramid chaos forts etc.

>> No.37792415

>>37783888
Thanks, but could you be more specific?
>>37786812
That's probably good advice, but if good advice was going to cure my autism it would've happened a long time ago.
>>37788874
I've been doing that some in Vernis. Just out of curiosity, do guild maps reset?

>> No.37792747

>>37792415
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Furniture#Changes_in_Elona.2B

>> No.37793525

>>37792747
Oh neat, thanks. Does "operates like freezers" mean that they can also only be accessed from your home and the maid mansion?

>> No.37793738

>>37793525
Yes.

>> No.37794347

What's the best way to dress up my little girl?

>> No.37797407

>>37792415
>I've been doing that some in Vernis. Just out of curiosity, do guild maps reset?
I believe they reset. Instead you would want to use these places for each city.
Port Kapul: The Pyramid
Derphy: Dragon's Nest
Lumiest: the sewers or graveyard

Unfortunately all of these but the graveyard are mid-late act 1 dungeons. Personally I use the Vernis basements at the beginning until I move towards Yowyn or Palmia and use that chaos fort and yeek's nest. At some point in Plus you can buy dungeon deeds which gives you the same massive storage anywhere.

>> No.37797764

>>37794347
in frills :3

>> No.37798420

Elona+ 2.08 : Davai Davai Deploy Edition.

>> No.37800590

Bunch of tweaks to elemental damage, magic, and enchantments in 2.08.

>> No.37800848

>Changed the Suicide Attack special action so that the damage to the user now procs after the user's HP has been set to 0.
>This means no more chain of exploding bomb rocks in the Void.
<Completely Homo>

>> No.37800972

>>37800848
I think he means that a single bomb rock with more hp than the self-damage from exploding will no longer be able to explode multiple times.

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37803391

Linking a drag-n-drop folder of OOMSESTepNC if anyone is interested.
https://mega.nz/file/O10izYRI#1omndK9GisRd-9PX38xkRMTduB37qW2fxozemgyC9W4

>> No.37803440

>want to put a thing in 4d pocket
>the container is full
>take a thing out
>the container is full
>take a bunch of stuff out
>the container is full
Lads, I seem to have broken my alternate dimension, please advise.

>> No.37803494

>>37803440
Maybe using EloSnack you could manually delete some of the items. If it works.

>> No.37803946

>>37803494
What do you mean? I was able to take things out of it, I just couldn't put anything into it.
Now that I think about it, is the pocket weight limited or item number limited? It likely that what I was trying to add was heavier than all the stuff I removed combined. Or is its capacity affected by spellpower or something? It's the first time I successfully cast the spell, all the stuff that was in it was placed with a mirror. Once I get some more spell stock and a mirror with charges I'll try some things.

>> No.37804078

>>37803946
Oh, I thought it was bugged. Yeah, spell levels have an effect on how much stuff you can store and also how heavy each singular item can be for you to be able to store it.
When your spell level is low it can't store as many things as a 4-dimensional mirror, so it's perfectly possible for you to take stuff out and be unable to put it back in.

>> No.37804451

>>37803946
Makes sense, thanks. Guess I'm adding 4d pocket casting to my grind cycle.
Another question, for anyone. I'd like to feed my shopkeeper CHA food when I stop by, but it seems she never gets hungry. I read somewhere that I can use body blow to make a pet vomit for extra feedings. Does that work when they're not in my party? Does it lower relationship (it never goes up since she's always at the shop and I don't want to tank it)? And if I do it will she try to sell her own vomit?

>> No.37806522

Do we have a chat server?

>> No.37807080

>>37804451
>Does that work when they're not in my party?
Doesn't really matter since you can just take her out, bap her, feed her, and put her back behind the counter.

>And if I do it will she try to sell her own vomit?
Yes.

Another thing you can do is bring her with you and invest 50 at a couple of shops if her potential for the skill is high enough. Her charisma will quickly rise one or two levels.

>> No.37807120

>>37807080
I forgot
>Does it lower relationship (it never goes up since she's always at the shop and I don't want to tank it)?
It shouldn't if she's in your party and even if it does, every day you get a chance to raise it back with i->Confess your feelings.

>> No.37807495

I completed Plus' second chapter twice with different characters in the past, but I may want to restart and beat the real final boss of act 3 at least once.
I know the potential power of farming herb seeds with Kumiromi as god, but is it viable to pick a Golem Warrior and just unga-bunga run into enemies till they die without relying too much on any kind of magical buffs? I never really tried that and fell back to range and magic all the time.

>> No.37808025

>>37807080
>Another thing you can do is bring her with you and invest 50 at a couple of shops if her potential for the skill is high enough. Her charisma will quickly rise one or two levels.
Oooh that's tricksy, good idea. We're set real close to the embassy too, so it's not far to go.
>>37807120
Never even noticed that option. Or if I did I ignored it I guess.
Thank you for the advice. You guys are a lot more helpful than most of the assholes on the various vidya boards.

>> No.37809255

>>37806522
Is elochat fixed?

>> No.37809546

>>37807080
>>37807120
Welp, body blow kills her in one hit, she doesn't have the investing skill yet, and I don't have the option to confess to her (or any of my other pets).
I just want to feed my fucking goose some cheesecake, what a pain in the ass it's turning out to be.

>> No.37809889

>>37809546
Okay, problem one solved by giving her half the booze in Palmia. Problem two solved by my flying frog ranch. I don't know how I'll raise relations with her going forward. I guess it doesn't really matter if I don't have to lower her relations to feed her.

>> No.37814353

>>37806522
Yeah, CGX anon set one up. Its on by default in CGX but you can connect to it in other variants (except Plus with the language set to JP) if you enter the server info. There is also a JP server which IIRC is linked on the official Elona page.

>> No.37814548

>>37807495
Hope you like shadow-step.

>> No.37815830

What are good uses for the rod of alchemy? I've just been stockpiling them because I have no idea.

>> No.37816207

>>37815830
Draw charge.

>> No.37817880

>>37816207
Just so I'm clear, are you saying that rods of alchemy aren't useful and that I'm better off sucking their charges for something else, or that I should get draw charge so I can suck charges from other useless things and not have to worry about wasting rods of alchemy?

>> No.37818331

Do rods of alchemy not refill fountains in Plus or something?

>> No.37818381

>>37817880
The first one. They used to be useful because they could transmute an empty container into a filled one, but that's gone in Plus.

>>37818331
I didn't know about fountains but I assume the same applies.

>> No.37818611

>>37815830
Try zapping rice balls to see if they turn into herb seeds.

>> No.37819832

why is my pet snail not using the machine gun i gave him

>> No.37819885

>>37818611
Does it change a whole stack, or 1 at a time?

>> No.37821542

>>37819832
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Snail_(NPC)
>They will always attempt to move into melee before attacking. Their only attack is unarmed attacks.

>> No.37826114

>>37698242
I was brought here by the elona thread on /vrpg/. Did Ano manage to finish all three acts?

>> No.37826424

>>37826114
Yes

>> No.37831758

How does teaching pets spells work in CGX?
I got the spell to level 50 and chose the option to teach it; now it says they are currently learning it with 0% progress. Does it just take a really long time?

>> No.37832489

>>37831758
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4#Teaching_a_Spell_or_Ability
>Teaching a pet takes time - an average of about 4500 attempted uses (if my math is correct). A pet's chance to successfully use an ability or spell that they are learning is Progress/2, with a maximum of 20 and a minimum of 1. Then, for every successful use, there is a 25% chance that their progress will increase by 1.

>> No.37833304

>>37832489
Thanks. Sounds painful.

>> No.37833721

>>37833304
5 minutes of sporadically blasting weak mooks in the puppy cave. Easy.

>> No.37836551

Does distant attack allow weapon invokes and extra hits?

>> No.37837031

>>37836551
It can if I recall

>> No.37841713

>>37819832
You need to change your pet's AI.

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37846833

Is elona custom like uhh online/connected to other players?

>> No.37847675

>Seal magic: [...] If the pet attempted to cast a spell, it will be replaced by a basic melee attack, which will turn into a ranged attack if the pet is not in melee range.
What happens if it's too far to do melee and also can't do ranged attacks?

>> No.37847905

>>37846833
>>37814353

>> No.37848983

Can I carry a 1.90 +C save to the latest version of CX? I read about some bug that I didn't want to deal with but now I regret it. And I'm like 90 hours in.

>> No.37849042

>>37848983
There shouldn't be any problem. You should always keep a backup of your save, of course.

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37849744

I don't know, man, you don't seem like a werewolf even though I found you in a magic shop with bloodstains everywhere instead of a shopkeeper.

>> No.37850173

>>37847905
Whoops
thanks

Also child Gwen just got killed by the unseen hand can I resurrect her oh god OH GOD

>> No.37850211

>>37850173
Oh yeah I can
I gotta bring her back :(

>> No.37850553

>>37850173
She comes back every time Yowyn resets. You can (and should) kill her every time you see her.

>> No.37850734

>>37849744
just your typical furry

>> No.37853200

>>37850553
I wonder if Irva's "it's only murder if they have chat dialogue" morality is related to that resurrection phenomenon?

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37857191

You will visit her right?

>> No.37860086

>>37853200
Unfortunately Noa has confirmed that murder being legal, respawning, and mammals laying eggs are not canon.

>> No.37860574

>>37860086
I always figured when you kill an NPC you're just beating the hell out of them, kinda like how adventurers go to the hospital when they die and you can bring back "dead" pets.

>> No.37860725

>>37860574
This is also what I say to myself when I use party time quests to grind weapon skills.

>> No.37860742

>>37860725
kek

>> No.37862027

>>37860086
When did this happen?

>> No.37862487

>>37862027
I recall reading Noa's list of game mechanics that are not canon somewhere on the イルヴァ資料館 but I can't find it right now. I did find him saying that killing neutral npcs doesn't effect karma because the player might accidently kill them, and respawning is just a game mechanic.

Here is the top page in case you want to real a shitload of Elona lore.
https://elonagather.wiki.fc2.com/

>> No.37863727

>>37860086
It's canon to Elona+ since books mention these things.
>>37862487
Noa can eat shit since his world is infinitely more interesting if the events of the average playthrough are canon.

>> No.37864249

What in the hell is potioman

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37865023

>>37864249

>> No.37865074

>>37863727
One of the interdimensional NPCs also remarks on revival happening by itself without a ritual being performed.

>> No.37868152

>>37857191
Will I get a free body pillow?

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37869423

>>37868152
only if she likes you enough

>> No.37871767

Does stolen furniture contribute its full value to house rank, or a reduced value like with selling?

>> No.37871869

>>37863727
Don't be a dick dude. Noa explicitly wrote that he doesn't want to push the canon setting onto players or variants. He also likes the comedy created by the gameplay and the story being disjointed.

>> No.37878305

bump

>> No.37878408

What's better for a shopkeeper, 10 points of charisma or two pips of negotiation?

>> No.37878582

>>37871767
I think not

>> No.37878622

>>37878408
Charisma, negotiation is way easier to train.

>> No.37883811
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>>37698242
Is mobile still alive?

>> No.37885083

Does riding another creature completely replace my own speed with theirs? Is there any reason to raise my own speed if I'm going to be riding all the time?
Also any recs for unusual creatures to consider for my ride? I've been riding the Kaneda bike for a while and I'd like to try something different.

>> No.37885552

>>37885083
There are some modifiers, but your mount's speed is what matters while you're riding, yes. Another change is that the limb penalty to speed no longer applies to you or your mount.
That being the case, how about riding a mutant? That should definitely be different.

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>>37883811
Chinks are still playing it

>> No.37895697

CustomGX seems to run in wine on linux fine but I don't hear the music. Anyone have similar issues?

>> No.37898185

>>37895697
As I recall, Linux doesn't support MIDI out of the box, and you need to have something like TiMidity++ running in the background to handle it.

>> No.37900139

>>37725127
did he give an ETA on early access?

>> No.37901451

It pains me that I'll never be as chad as <Kuroya>.

>> No.37903543

>>37900139
No.

>> No.37904890

>>37898185
Thanks. Will try that out.

>> No.37906799

Did stamina costs change sometime between 1.90 and 2.07? I just updated and some things that I used to be able to do a whole lot of, like cooking and reading parties, are exhausting me really fast.

>> No.37912836

>>37698242
Anyone got any tip how to get through the early game fast?

>> No.37914136

>>37906799
Did you switch from Custom-G to just Plus? Custom-G lowered the stamina cost of those.

>> No.37914630

>>37914136
Yeah it was Custom G. I was under the impression that GX was a continuation of G.

>> No.37914764

>>37914630
It's more like Custom-GX is a continuation of Custom, but with changes imported from Custom-G. Apparently not all the changes, though.

>> No.37924600

Does anyone play NC in this thread or is it all plus?

>> No.37925579

>>37924600
NC?

>> No.37925653

>>37925579
oomSESTep_NC
The Japanese discord fork. It's fully translated too, unlike Ano's.

>> No.37933240

>>37925653
I would, but its built on a version of HSP that I can't decompile, so I'll stick to 1.16 and CGX.

>> No.37934767

>>37924600
I did an achievement run a while ago, all the minus feats are extremely annoying and don't really add any decent difficulty, and I just cheesed the game by throwing cursed alcohol to bosses.

>> No.37934823
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I remember there was someone who tried to convert elona from using HSP to C++
Any news on that?

>> No.37934850

>>37934823
Cancelled.

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>>37934850
damn...

>> No.37938985

Does attribute potential affect the stat gains you get from herbs?

>> No.37939146

>>37938985
Yeah, just like normal food.

>> No.37939773

>>37934823
>>37934900
According to the link in the pastebin there's a newer one called OpenNefia. Not that I have many hopes for that one either, since it was last updated in September.

>> No.37945070
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37945070

I started playing yesterday, really enjoying the game. I ended up using the GX version. The online chat/news pop ups are great.

>> No.37945608

>>37939773
A few threads back CGX anon said that its not dead yet. He's probably just too busy with CGX right now.

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>>37912836

>> No.37947350

>>37912836
Get a silver bell and give it a ranged weapon.

>> No.37950022

>>37912836
Make a gene and gve it a high-level pet in a monster ball.

>> No.37951507

>>37912836
Collect all the small medals in every town!

>> No.37957653

>>37912836
play elona+

>> No.37971137

>>37912836
Play on Overdose.

>> No.37975632

Is there anything that can be done about bombs dropped by mine dogs and terrorism squirrels? It doesn't seem that detect objects reveals them unless it needs higher spell power than scrolls or my cast. These things shred my pets.

>> No.37975863

>>37975632
Get gravity powers and use Gravity Accel so your pets float over traps.

>> No.37983782

>>37975863
Thanks

>> No.37986443

>update from 1.90+cg to 2.07+cgx about a week ago
>have an occasional freeze during combat
>keep on with my normal grinds despite
>start diving dungeons above my weight class
>more enemies with more abilities, and I can't 1hk most of them
>freezes get a lot more frequent
>get to the point that I'm quicksaving after after every turn I manage to take without locking up
I can't keep playing like this. I don't want to roll back to the previous version and lose the 30ish hours of progress I've made since, plus the new content. I don't want to start over and have to redo the 120+ of hours of grinding to get back to this point.
So what are my options? Is there any way to diagnose the cause of the freezing? Even if I can, how likely is it that the issue will be something fixable? Am I just done with Elona again?

>> No.37986767

>>37986443
>Is there any way to diagnose the cause of the freezing?
It's open source, so just add debug messages to the combat log and you should be able to narrow down the specifics.

>> No.37989152

>>37986767
>just add debug messages to the combat log
how?

>> No.37989452

>>37989152
lrn2code lmao
C-GX has its source code available

>> No.37990612

Alpha release of OpenNefia just came out:
https://github.com/OpenNefia/OpenNefia

>> No.37993288

>>37986443
What OS are you playing on? Can you test to see if the same thing happens on other computers?

>> No.37993583

I'm talking with a guy who wants to know if CGX adds elochat back in, because I vaguely remember it. Is that the case? Haven't played in a while.

>> No.37993744

>>37993583
It did

>> No.37994005

It puts it on by default but you can also connect to the server to get it back on any other variant, except for Plus when the language is set to Japanese.

>> No.37995025

>>37986443
If your level is extremely high and it occurs when something takes damage, it could be some kind of overflow error.

>> No.37995267 [DELETED] 

>>37701124
no

>> No.37996449
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37996449

Fuck this dungeon.

>> No.38000756

>>37993288
Win10, and I've tried various compatibility modes. Unfortunately I only have free access to the 1 computer.
>>37995025
It's not that, I'm only level 38, with my best attributes in the low 100s. And, though it happens most often when I'm doing bump attacks, it also happens when I'm passing turns to let my pets get kills.

>> No.38001294

>>38000756
>Unfortunately I only have free access to the 1 computer.
Well, that's a shame. Would've been nice to confirm whether or not it was your computer's fault.
Are you having this problem with every character, or just the one?

>> No.38011460

>>37986443
try lowering your alert_wait in config.txt to 5.
maybe that would help.

>> No.38012142

>>37996449
It ain't R18.

>> No.38016337
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Does anyone happen to recognize the interface (clock/life bar) in this picture?

>> No.38016487

>>38016337
No, but wherever you found that might have a mod list or something.

>> No.38025846

>>37993744
Do the moongates work, and if not has there been any word on that?

>> No.38029474

>>38025846
Moongates had too many compatibility issues and security flaws that I doubt that they will ever come back, at least not in the same form. You can download some of the rooms and visit them in the show-house though, so maybe if someone is feeling passionate about it they could implement offline moongates using those room files or something.

>> No.38032119

>>38029474
How about something like this?
https://nethack.fandom.com/wiki/Hearse

>> No.38032464

>>38032119
I don't think an automated solution is going to work out well unless measures are taken on both the client and server against incompatible, corrupt, and malicious rooms, since otherwise users would end up experiencing crashes or worse when they access a moongate. I don't know of any rooms uploaded to Noa's server that were malicious, but some variants (notably Plus) produce rooms that crash vanilla and other variants, and that caused a huge shitstorm back in the day.

>> No.38034522

>>38032464
Why would a server NOT validate house files? And it shouldn't be too hard to iterate through the stuff present in a house and identify the earliest working game version for it.

>> No.38043660

copy <elona folder>\sound\dead1.wav into <elona folder>\user\sound, and rename it Heart1.wav

This way, when you're on low health you'll get the death sound, instead of the almost inaudible heartbeat sound. Will likely save you from many deaths.

>> No.38043772

>>38043660
Is there no mod indicator for when you're near death?

>> No.38043798

>>38043772
not far as I know.

a screen-flashes-red effect would be nice, actually.

>> No.38044722
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38044722

I can finally start the game!

>> No.38044782

>>38044722
based

>> No.38044830

i don't really like how elona+ turns all of regular elona into tutorial island.

>> No.38046326

>The "360 rice balls and green teas" reward option from the yaca point card was worth more than I thought and overshadowed all the other options, so the green teas given no longer have +enhance values.
someone explain to me how that was broken,i am dumb as bricks,arent those just normal food?

>> No.38050381

>>38046326
Yeah but it's a lot of food you can sell back in the shop and get money and points for. The way Ano talks about it makes it sound like you can quickly get all or most of your points back, though I haven't tested it.

>> No.38051195

>>38001294
Sorry about the delayed response, I haven't had consistent internet access.
I made a new character to test it out. I didn't encounter the issue. I didn't try for very long, though. I already suspected it was a problem with updating from 1.90 to 2.07, and this supports that suspicion.
>>38011460
Tried that already, and a ton of other config tweaks. None of it helped.
Guess I'm done. See you nerds again in a few years maybe. Thanks for trying to help and generally being cool.

>> No.38061314

I was always curious, is there actual sex mods for Elona?

>> No.38061813

>>38061314
No, the closest thing is writing your own lewd talk files and having custom NPC sprites.

>> No.38064812

>>38061813
Ah, shame.

>> No.38064938

>>38061314
Add lewd images for when you sleep together with a pet

>> No.38066041

>>37912836
Alt+F4

>> No.38073463

Easy_Elona_Plus_Custom_G_With_Mods
.7z (from Mega link in pastebin) the current recommended version?

>> No.38073832

anyone getting a trojan warning when downloading the newest cgx?

>> No.38076146
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>>38061314
That you can download? No, but you could program nsfw animations in yourself by modifying the gathering animation routine to work with the 気持ちいいこと action and then converting short gifs you want to play into sprite sheets.

>> No.38076219

>>38073463
That version is kind of old and also its kind of hard to recommend using unless you know the game well enough to pick and choose assets from it yourself.

>> No.38084063

>>38061314
Just grab Lilith's Throne at that point.

>> No.38088339

bump

>> No.38089444

>>38046326
>>38050381
Update on the yaca point card reward: it's absolutely broken, you can get about 10x the points you spent and the green teas are worth 250000 per reward.

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>>38088339
shena's ass

>> No.38091218

>>38089549
fartypoopbutt

>> No.38091673

>>38089444
haha disregard that i suck cocks
I forgot I had taken the reward several times at once.
It's still a lot of points you get back though.

>> No.38100967
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38100967

Take it easy

>> No.38101161

sup bros im new to this game and im playing elona plus 2.07
i read a diary and suddenly i have a little sister
is exp shared because shes level 1?
also my party members wont use their ranged weapons
will i have a better time playing custom GX?

>> No.38102947

>>38101161
>is exp shared because shes level 1?
No. Give her jewels or let her pick up money so that she will raise her potentials and grow stronger faster.

>also my party members wont use their ranged weapons
NPC need to have certain AI in order to use ranged weapons so if you want a ranged pet in act 1 then get a npc that normally uses ranged attacks.

> will i have a better time playing custom GX?
I would recommend CGX with the experience buffs in the in-game options menu disabled, since otherwise act 1 (the actual main game) goes by way too fast.

>> No.38103603

>>38102947
thanks bro

>> No.38107312
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38107312

why house turn retarded? :(
All I was doing was walking around then suddenly the tile set for buildings/caves turned into what looks like the world map since it has bridges, tiny trees and shit when I look at it. I tried spamming random keys and that didn't do anything.

>> No.38107413

>>38107312
Have you tried loading your previous save?

>> No.38107512

>>38107312
Try changing the tile group with the house board, then leaving ang entering again.

>> No.38110035

>>38107512
I have no idea why I was unable to piece that together when I knew what tile groups were already ffs, guess I wasn't focusing when I was reading. Thanks man, that fixed it.
>>38107413
Tbh I don't know how to save the game outside of the autosave, and it got autosaved over when I posted

>> No.38111005

The new AP mechanics are really badly thought, now slow pets are straight up better simply because it's so easy to get them to 2000 speed. If Ano didn't want players to hold off on speed-granting evolutions he should have added a hidden counter to pets that recorded how many times it had been given speed via AP and increment the cost accordingly instead of basing it on current speed or making it flat.

>> No.38114214
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>>38102947
>I would recommend CGX with the experience buffs in the in-game options menu disabled
where do you find this? or is this the "revert to version 1.90 experience gain"

>> No.38115046

>>38114214
>or is this the "revert to version 1.90 experience gain"
Those post 1.9 changes, study days, and destiny.

>> No.38115652
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help do i have negative hit

>> No.38115822

>>38115652
if you're riding, a heavy weapon makes hitting very difficult, or you could be riding a pet that takes more riding skill than you have.

>> No.38116385

>>38115822
ah thanks

>> No.38117378

I'm a newbie playing a performer. I only did party and harvest quests to get gold. How can I increase my bad stats at level 21?

>> No.38117484

>>38117378
Just spend plat to increase your skill potentials and then use those skills. For weapons skills party time quests and the cat basement are great places for grinding.

>> No.38117781

>>38117484
Can you also tell me how to get Jure's pet quickly? Should I run puppy cave to farm gems and corpses?

>> No.38117912

>>38117781
Mining is probably the fastest way to get lots of gems, but you can even just grab junk stones in the wilderness.

>> No.38118097

>>38117912
Thank you.

>> No.38128267

>>38117378
Pretty sure the main ways to fix stat potentials are to either use blessed potions of potential or picnic baskets.

>> No.38132276
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I believe the newest version of GX has malware included. I didn't changed the data in any way, but when I wanted to run the .exe today, a threat was found, don't really know how it could stay hidden for that long. I quarantined and deleted the malware with the entire folder, copied my save file of course. Re-downloaded Plus2.08fix, nothing, unzipping GX, instantly hit with the same malware. At least the save file is compatible with Plus still.

>> No.38132435

>>38132276
is it just that version in particular?

>> No.38132486

>>38132435
I don't know, and I don't really wanna test the older versions now.
All I can say is that I played with the 2.08.1.0 Custom GX release since it came out, but just got hit today with that trojan by running the exe. There was no prompt of any threats before. Could it perhaps be related to the chat servers included with it?

>> No.38133106

>>38132276
I've gotten trojan warnings before when I accidentally made some problematic edits to the source of an earlier version and compiled it. I really don't think any of the versions have a trojan, but something it does seems to have a relatively high probability of triggering Windows antivirus.

>> No.38133213

>>38132276
>>38133106
i just googled it and contebrew is a known adware /pup application often put into freeware ny scum devs. it hijacks your browser and redirects you to dodgy sites.

>> No.38133329

>>38133213
I guess I got entirely rid of it now, browser is clean too. Don't know if someone injected something in the newest release of CGX. It's just an enigma to me how it happened all of sudden.

>> No.38133395

>>38133213
anyone told the devs yet?

>> No.38133462

>>38133395
Well has anyone else besides me got this contebrew threat warning?

>> No.38133470

>>38133395
i'm assuming they're responsible

>> No.38133936

>>38133395
Probably not, but CGX anon might notice next time he visits the thread. I suspect that MS will clear the warning if its submitted for testing.

>>38133462
I'm getting it on 2.08 too. Haven't checked compiling from source though.

>> No.38134363

>>38133470
That would be gay if that's the case

>> No.38135219

>>38132276
By being "hit with malware" do you mean you actually experienced something or that your overeager antivirus just decided to block it on its own?
I uploaded it to Virus Total and only two no-name antiviruses "detected" it, it's nonsense.

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>>38135219
I only use the default Windows Defender, because I normally never get malware even while pirating occasionally for years and I believe all the "free" versions of paid antivirus programs are more harmful for a system than your common malware could be.
Anyway I've played like 40 hours with CGX 2.08.1.0, probably run the exe like 100 times and never got a block before until today. Also the system slowed instantly down after discovery of Contebrew. I don't know what the real problem is, but for now I'll stay on Plus.

>> No.38136232

>>38135819
>I've played like 40 hours with CGX 2.08.1.0, probably run the exe like 100 times and never got a block before until today
Sounds like the problem isn't with the game. Maybe a virus that was already on your computer is modifying commonly-run programs. You've backed up your data, right?

>> No.38136327

>>38136232
>You've backed up your data, right?
Nah not really, but I don't keep much, if it happens with another program in the future, I'll wipe the Windows installation then.

>> No.38139664

so is this contebrew crap safe or not

>> No.38140160

brothers where do i store all these cards?

>> No.38140332

>>38139664
It's literally nothing.

>> No.38141701

>>38140160
Stuff common cards in a deck for the witch quest. Unique cards go in a museum next to figures to get building ranking up. At least that's how I do it.

>> No.38144483,1 [INTERNAL] 

THANK YOU for maintaining the pastebins, they are a godsend for newbies.I was having trouble deciphering the wiki before stumbling upon the holy text. its got links and tips, freaking 10/10.

>> No.38143699

is there a setting anywhere where i dont automatically attack neutral monsters/npcs when im using spells or range?

>> No.38143788

>>38143699
Stop targeting neutral NPCs

>> No.38144329

>>38143788
i dont though. when i spam spells i accidentally hit neutral npcs in the dungeon

>> No.38144483
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38144483

alright im new so i started warrior
im absolutely getting rekt by these demons, ghosts, cats, rats, exploding leeks? and whatever high evasion npcs
i takes forever as to fuck get a hit until i get surrounded
then i started using spells. 100% hit chance but it fails ALOT (maybe heavy armor?)
ALSO fucking mages. they fuck my shit up with spells and dont know how to counter it
is there like a usable skill to get for warriors that can deal with these types? i feel like im playing the game wrong or something

>> No.38144675

THANK YOU to the person(people?) who maintain the pastebin. it is a godsend for a newbie. 10/10

>> No.38147772

>>37698242
When gardening is high enough farming quests can be done even while overburdened

>> No.38148559

>>38136232
I also had Windows Defender quarantine it yesterday, so it could be that the program's hash has gotten flagged in Microsoft's latest definitions. I bet that changing a line of code or two and recompiling it would be enough for it to be treated like any other normal program again.

>> No.38148660

>>38139664
You can either ignore it, inspect and compile the code yourself, play an earlier version of CGX, or play regular Plus until either CGX 2.08 stops getting flagged by your antivirus or a new version is released.

>> No.38148742

>>38144483
Post your character sheet.

>> No.38149086
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>> No.38149152

>>38149086
Should have been a helmet.

>> No.38149803

>>38149152
It should be the mail equipped on the helmet slot

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>>38148742
the stat screen?

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38150578

>>38148742

>> No.38151781

Do unique characters copied with astral pen have increased quality from the start?

>> No.38154455
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38154455

th-thanks

>>38150578
I think there are a number of autohit special actions like Blame Pain or missile rods that can help you with high evasion enemies.

>> No.38154635

>>38144483
Your pet should be taking care of those until you get some better stats and equipment.
Shining wave once you get higher tactics.

>> No.38158422

>>38154455
You can see some greens in the west and south so there's that at least

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>>38158422
Good eye! I thought those were just garbled bits from the faded page effect.

>> No.38159639

>>38076146
>気持ちいいこと action
I presume it meant interaction action? Also here's hoping for a working Elona-like RPG maker program as to make it smoother.
>>38084063
I seen it but dont like furryshit.

Speaking of which, any thoughts on Elona Mobile?

>> No.38159772

What is this? A mmo? RPG? Can someone explain the premise please? It looks interesting

>> No.38161649

>>38159772
JP isekai simulation.

>> No.38162869

>>38150578
Unequip your shield.

>> No.38162998

>>38159639
>I presume it meant interaction action?
I mean the action which characters enter during prostitution. IIRC the value is labelled as ACTION_SEX in Custom G. It uses the same variable as gathering actions like mining and fishing, so its not difficult to hijack their animation code. Its also possible to implement new spacts and shit that start the action, but that is likely to end up conflicting with later updates to Plus.

>> No.38163300
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38163300

NC is not getting updated again.
+ chads win again.

>> No.38164167

>>38163300
Given NC is compiled with HSP 3.6, which the de-compiler does not support, that might be the end of the line.

>> No.38164401

>>38164167
A pity they didn't make the source code public.

>> No.38171196

It's been years since I played and followed Elona. Why did Rueken delete his elona/pixiv, and is there any other big artist doing fanarts now?

>> No.38172091

How do I play this game without a numpad? Any guides on setting up the settings?

>> No.38172682

>>38172091
>tenkeylessfag
feels good to have a full keyboard

>> No.38173182

>>38162998
Ahh, gotcha. I'll best stick with the program instead first.

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