/jp/ - Otaku Culture

It's easier to draw than a mountain.
And they didn't want to use a triangle.

I'm not seeing any bone in this character.

you blind? it's clearly a mountain

Stop trying to learn Japanese, then, because the characters only get more abstract from there. 馬 <-- see the horse? 鳥 <-- that's a bird right there, not a horse. 店 <-- obviously that's a store clerk at a desk with a big nose underneath a canopy.

If you don't have enough imagination to see a mountain in 山, stick to an alphabetical language. Go try Korean, the writing's way easier.

>>3755053
I see a robot.

>>3755058
>store clerk at a desk with a big nose underneath a canopy.
Haha, that's pretty good. Was that from Heisig, or is that just something you came up with?

>>3755053

I can see its jawbone and ribcage.

鳥

木
Ｉ’ｍ　ｎｏｔ　ｓｅｅｉｎｇ　ａｎｙ　ｔｒｅｅ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｃｈ
ａｒａｃｔｅｒ．

only the most hardcore japanophiles believe kanji even remotely look like what theyre representing

>店 <-- obviously that's a store clerk at a desk with a big nose underneath a canopy.

I love that explanation. First time I read it from was the YOU CAN READ JAPANESE! book from the 60's.

Let's have a kanji thread! What are your favorite kanji? Mine is 火 since it actually looks like fire.

>>3755097
日本の鳥はスパゲッティを料理します。

>>3755113
Some actually do and all were technically pictographs once even if we don't associate that with the meaning any longer.

My favorites are 兄　mouth with legs　父　and man with sticks

>>3755120
I like 終. I've always liked 終.

>>3755113
> only the most hardcore japanophiles believe kanji even remotely look like what theyre representing
一(one)
二(two)
三(three)

Yeah. Those definitely don't look like what they represent.

>>3755129
壱 (one)
弐 (two)
参 (three)

Now you try, asshole.

I always got a chuckle out of 大丈夫　big stature husband

水 - water
火 - fire

If anyone can see the similarity, maybe they need to get their brain check.

水 - water
火 - fire

If anyone cant see the similarity, maybe they need to get their brain check.

Fire looks like a bonfire to me. Water looks like... lines.

>>3755137
Jerk.

>>3755137
>implying that those aren't intentionally obfuscated to confuse the laymen

I always liked 楽 for some reason. 好 is "woman" and "child" and that's just cute.

>>3755137
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>>3755146
Fire looks like a fire with embers

>>3755124
>父
I've always seen this one as a rabbit face.

I've always been partial to 犬

>>3755168
>好 is "woman" and "child" and that's just cute.
That is pretty cute.

>>3755178
>父
I always saw this as two crossed hammers and think of a manly father figure.

>>3755191
My teacher ruined all (or maybe enhanced?) all the characters using women in them for me.

He said japanese are mysoginist (he was a guy btw) and the kanjis and language reflected this.

好 was "liking" because you liked child women. Just like "Okusan"/"Wife" means "women in the back part of the house" and the kanji for husband can mean both husband and master.

>>3755178
That's the ugliest rabbit i've ever seen.

>>3755168
>好 is "woman" and "child" and that's just cute.

Daww, fuck you, I have to go to a funeral in 10 minutes and I'm gonna have a smile on my face the entire time.

>>3755204

>>3755200
It's true. They were.

>>3755221
>They were
They aren't now?

>>3755221
find me a culture that never was

>>3755200
>implying the Japanese are responsible for the creation of kanji

不 好 。

>>3755168
>I always liked 楽 for some reason.

I remember how I learned that kanji. It showed up on the "you managed not to fail" screen of the clapping game in Rhythm Tengoku where you make a stupid-looking girl in pigtails not drag down the rest of the cheer squad. I was just starting to learn the language, so I see "楽だったね" and think, "Hey, I can figure that out if I look up the kanji. However, 楽 looks very little like 楽 when it's in five-pixels high. So, I spend ten-minutes stumbling around the dictionary for anything that resembled the tiny kanji. Then I found it, and learned how worthless that girl truly was. I think her "friends" probably beat her up behind the shed after the remix game.

楽だったね~
Tano-kiss my ass, you pink haired retard.

>>3755233
Not even close to how they were. It's pretty much the same for most cultures though.

>>3755243
>楽し

Forgot my し. Somehow. I blame anger.

>>3755244
>implying the Japanese are responsible for the creation of kanji
Actually yeah they are. They just stole the characters from China to make it. The Chinese don't call them Kanji.

>>3755257
Doesn't matter. They didn't make the characters, therefore to say that the characters themselves say anything about the Japanese mind-set is wrong.

They do, however, say plenty about the Chinese mind-set which, by the way, is not unlike the description given by your teacher.

>>3755243
did you also forget い

>>3755243
What's wrong with saying Rhythm Heaven or Rhythm Paradise?

>>3755276
Gentlemen, I think we can agree both the Japanese and Chinese were misogynistic as fuck, just like every other culture was hundreds of years ago.

The real question is what went wrong?

>>3755276
chinese and japanese are more like each other than they like to admit.

sort of like isrealis and palestinians.

funny how people who truly are worlds apart get along, but it's the people who are actually alike except in small ways that insist on killing each other.

>>3755299
What's wrong with saying Rhythm Tengoku?

>>3755278
Yes, but that's because I'm stupid and forget extended vowels a lot.
>>3755299
I called it Tengoku because the rom is called Tengoku and the game is in Japanese. It also differentiates it from the DS game which is called Heaven and Paradise in its translations. Being a GBA game, and thus low resolution, was central to my frustration in finding the kanji.

If it makes you feel better, I don't call the DS game "Rhythm Tengoku Gold." I had to look up what its Japanese name was.

>>3755302
Opposites attract.

Also, any two people (for example) who are very similar to each other will either be the best of friends or the worst of enemies.

I find it kind of interesting.

>>3755335
Most people won't know what game you're talking about?

>>3755243
>text says "That was fun, wasn't it?"
>poster is angry

huh

>>3755137
肆 (four)
伍 (five)
陸 (six)
漆 (seven)
捌 (eight)
玖 (nine)
拾 (ten)
萬 (that thing in man tiles)

this was the first kanji i learned back when The Reading Rainbow was airing.

it makes me feel a little sad because it's like staring at the rain from the window of my room. my room that i never leave..

also　悲　亡　茶

酒

The best kanji.

>>3755418
The poster had to look up that kanji in order to understand that vapid, pointless statement. This is after beating that level, which was rather trying. And now the song is stuck in my head.

>>3755436
ah, understood

姦
and
嫐

>>3755513
>姦
I love this one. I totally forgot about it.

It fits perfect with our misogynist discussion.

If a woman and child are good, three women are evil. hurrr.

>>3755038
hey please stop spamming ur shitty board on Onontalk dot com except with "a" insted of "O" thanks in advanenc

Another one I like is 羽(wing). It's one of the few that look like they're supposed to.

>>3755244
finally someone who knows what the fuck he is talking about in this thread

>>3755513
woman woman woman?

>>3755513
>姦
Korean's skill.

Now that there's a thread like this anyways, could anyone tell me what kanji this is?

I know left (左、ひだり), but I have no idea what that is.

I'm not seeing any noodles in this character.

>>3755852
I don't think you have proper eyesight.
Enjoy your noodleless kanji life.

>>3755810
佐 assistant

>>3755810
佐

I like the character 出 because in 90% of the time in things I read it pertains to the pleasure of cumming inside.

>>3755760

>>3755863
>>3755875

Thanks a lot, really helped!

>>3755878
出 practically makes it's own sound effects. Look at it. It's like a splurt.

ム
A nose.
Enjoy never unseeing.

>>3755924
Sorry. I already see 自 as a nose because of all those stupid mnemonics. THE ' IS BY THE EYE SO ITS A NOSE. ASIANS POINT TO THEIR NOSE TO MEAN SELF.

>>3755879
Fat woman crushing two little girls.

I'm gonna take advantage of the wise people in this thread to ask for some info:
When putting two kanji together to form a word, e.g. 鬼殺し - Onigoroshi from Oni and Koroshi, what are the rules for when the, what I'd call the 'binding letter' changes?
Because I've noticed that for some words, the binding letter doesn't change.

>>3755950
It really did mean 'nose' originally.

>>3755968
There are no rules. Enjoy guessing every time.

>>3755968
It's like many "rules" in English. There's no specific set of rules, you just have to eventually get a good feel for what sounds correct.

>>3755988
>Kanji is a logical part of language which once you get used to is not so bad
>There are no rules. Enjoy guessing every time.

;_;

>>3755988
>>3755992

I had a feeling it was like that, thanks for clearing it up for me.

The kanji character are borrowed from Chinese, they have the same meaning in both language, just spoken differently. The current traditional Chinese evolved from "ancient chinese". Which are a bit more squigglier, and more similar to a pictograph system. The tradition chinese was simplified to create the simplified chinese system.

I love how so many people think kanji is japanese.

what's the program to use to type these moon characters?

>>3756246
Windows.

>>3755879
Where's this from?

>>3756195
>I love how so many people think kanji is japanese.
Kanji is Japanese. Yes, they're Chinese sinographs. That doesn't mean Kanji isn't Japanese.

English is Latin.

This kanji looks tasty. Must be some kind of food.

Hooooooooooooorse.

>>3756326

Do people even use this shit anymore?

>>3756330
A stack of hard disk drives.

>>3756302
Control Panel
-> Regional and Language Options
-> [Keyboards and Languages] Tab
-> [Change keyboard...] Button
->　[Add]

Then just add the Japanese keyboard.( Microsoft IME )
Hotkeys:
[Alt+shift] Switch between emulated Keyboard
[Alt+Caps]Katakana(while in JP mode)
[Ctrl+Caps]Hiragana(while in JP mode)

>>3756335
it's biang, only used in china
as anyone could have guessed, it's a kind of noodle dish that only gets purchases because of its unique advertisement as having a weird name
the dish tastes horrible, imo

>>3756325
>English is Latin.
Anglo Saxon alphabet here. I look way fucking cooler than Latin.
I'm so lonely ;_;

>>3756326
please tell me this is not a real kanji. I counted fifty seven strokes.

>>3756368
Dirty runes, get out.

>>3756423
It's not Kanji at all. It's dirty Chinese. Pay attention.

>>3756432
>Dirty runes, get out.
But but but... you can use me instead to pronounce the same words! Why don't you use me! ;_;

>>3756444
phew! well that makes sense. Damn dirty Chinese.

>>3756448
I mean you are cool and all, it's just that, the shapes are really too complex and angular.
Hell, I practiced writing runes for about a year seriously and it still took me about twice as long as usual to write the same sentence.

>>3756444

It is 漢字.
Fuck this shitty western-made-up distinction between "kanji", "hanzi"... whatever.

It's all 漢字.

>>3756453
籲 is 32. You can't even read it in a browser.

>>3756471
If I zoom in 500% I can.

>>3756471

>>3756480
Anything past 25 strokes is a pain in the ass to read on a monitor in standard English font. 鬖,籲,鸙, What the shit is even going on in these?

>>3756492
Alright, without zooming. That was pretty much implied.

鬱 is pretty neat also...

>籲 is 32. You can't read it in a shitty browser.

>>3756497
When you are fluent with hanzi/kanji, you only look at their general form and bam! you know what the character is. So being "unreadbale" in broswers only applies to those who are unfamiliar with the character or students of the language.

>>3756517
Bro if
>>3756326
was in 14 font size it would look just like like ▓ this regardless of how fluent you are.

>>3756517

>>3756326
in 14pixils.

I'm not sure any amount of fluency makes that readable.

>>3756550
You do not read sentences character per character. You read them by blocks. You see a really small "unreadable character" and your mind should go evaluate all the characters you know that look like this within the context of the neighboring characters or meaning. A split second later, you get what it's all about.

>>3756572
Or you could just use the Latin alphabet already and throw away all that useless garbage.

>>3756596
:-)

>>3756550
Yes it's possible.
Also get a better font, that looks like shit.

First, those 30+ stroke characters are rare as hell.
Second, there aren't many of them. With some practice (I mean, gaijin-attainable practice, not fluency) you can usually guess them from the shape, even without seeing all the different strokes.

>>3756330

I see a Hydralisk

>>3755041
hey please stop spamming ur shitty board on Onontalk dot com except with "a" insted of "O" thanks in advanenc

>>3756805
kekeke spawn more moonrunes

>>3755042
>>I'm not seeing any mountain in this character.
actually that's a camel toe. they used to call that "yama".

>父
Sickle and hammer, anyone?

I like 見 the most out of what I've learned thus far. I immediately associate it with "see" since it looks a lot like a rod cell that you find in your retina.

I'm a neurosciencefag in case you couldn't tell

http://www.coscom.co.jp/ebook/2001kanji/diskdata/vol1-top.html <--- Pretty useful tool for learning all 2000 motherfucking kanji characters if you ever have the time.
http://www.hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm <--- This guy, if you want to figure out why kanji characters look the way they do, and how to piece all the 2000 kanjis in order with radicals.

>>3758710
It seems that the Chinese were rather advanced in optics then.

>>3758761
>http://www.coscom.co.jp/ebook/2001kanji/diskdata/vol1-top.html
>Sample
>Price: 4900-yen