/jp/ - Otaku Culture

96 - MuvLuv Alternative
90 - Baldr Sky Dive1 "LostMemory"
90 - Parfait ~Second Brew~
90 - Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
87 - Ikusa Megami Zero
86 - FOREST
86 - Omega no Shikai -Shiki no Hajimari / Mikaifuu no Hakoniha-
86 - Ayakashibito
86 - Swan Song
85 - Tsuyokiss
85 - Katahane
85 - Eden* They Were Only Two, On The Planet
85 - Extravaganza
85 - Mugen Kairou
85 - Shoujo Mahou Gaku Little Witch Romanesque
85 - Narcissu Side 2nd & Narcissu 3rd Die Dritte Welt (side 3 is 83)
85 - Saihate no Ima
84 - Gunjou no Sora wo Koete
83 - Kusarihime ~Euthanasia~
83 - Moshimo Ashita ga Harenaraba
82 - Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu
81 - Kizuato
81 - Hoshizora no Memoria -Wish upon a shooting star-
80 - Atlach-Nacha
80 - Bullet Butlers
80 - Cannon Ball ~Neko Neko Machine Rage Race!~
80 - CARNIVAL
80 - 11eyes
80 - Fortune Arterial
80 - Mai-HiME: Unmei no Keitouju - Shura
80 - Shikkoku no Sharnoth ~what a beautiful tomorrow~
79 - ABYSS -Satsujin Club-
78 - Gun Katana
78 - Killer Queen
78 - Sayonara wo oshiete ~Comment te Dire Adieu~
76 - Coµ - Kuroi Ryuu To Yasashii Oukoku (comyu)
75 - Flyable Heart
75 - H2O: Footprints in the Sand
75 - I/O
75 - Itsuka, Todoku, Ano Sora ni
75 - Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de
75 - 12Riven
75 - Reika Mesuinu Choukyou
75 - Sorairo
74 - Kara no Shoujo
72 - Blue Blaster
70 - Mushitsukai
70 - France Shoujo ~Une Fille Blanche~
68 - My girlfriend is the PRESIDENT
N/A - Not released yet - Hikari no Valcia ~What a beautiful hopes~

[23:14] <~Moogy> [22:14:17] <Fungi> MAAAAAAAYBE
[23:14] <~Moogy> re: sky
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[20:45:56] <kViN> Ixrec, please say "No I won't absolutely ignore Extra and Unlimited if Alternative wins"
[20:46:02] <kViN> so I can paste it every time someone says we shouldn't vote for MLA
[20:46:14] * Ixrec|asleep is now known as Ixrec
[20:46:32] <&Ixrec> there is a strong possibility I will translate a significant portion of Extra and Unlimited in the event Alternative wins
---
<Ixrec> Swan Song's pretty easy, yeah
<izmos> and you liked it right
<Ixrec> there's one scene with a bunch of Buddhist terminology I didn't know
<Ixrec> 9.5/10 yeah, just a little
<Ixrec> and that's it unless you find text walls hard
<izmos> seems like to me it's a pretty good idea to do it as a side project indeed. I can only see it or some really large stuff to win
<Ixrec> if something huge wins
<Ixrec> like the rules say
<Ixrec> the runner up will likely be done between partials
<Ixrec> unless runner up is also huge
<Ixrec> then I'll just make an executive decision and everyone will live with it
<izmos> which means that if Swan song gets to be the top second it'll be translated, unless for some reason a surprising short/medium vn wins

In before real deal faggotry

Reading his review of Saya and Baldr Sky, I'm starting to dislike that Ixrec guy, especially his overuse of "original", "unoriginal" and "predictable" in his reviews.
I'm starting to understand why he loved Code Geass.

Oh well at least he translates VNs and he is fast at it too.

That's what for GMT. Can't keep track of daylight changes or whatever amerkkans call them and too lazy to lookup

>>3746709
2:00 AM Or so I believe.

>>3746677
Saya no Uta is overrated on /jp/. It's a nice little VN but nothing more.

>>3746725
I'd agree if it didn't have the best VN soundtrack ever made.

C'mon guys, Kara no Shoujo votes are expected tomorrow. Fight the power, etc.

>>3746709
PST is -8 at the moment, we're off daylight savings time.

Also, vote for Ayakashibito, faggots.

>>3746740
lolno

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/poll/
There's a timer on-site. It's not necessary to count your local time etc again.
Time until start: 25 hours, 29 minutes, 1 seconds

I've hidden your thread. That is all.

>>3746740
It's OST is good but not the best.

But then again OPINIONS OPINIONS OPINIONS.

>>3746725
Not saying anything else, I do think 8/10 is a good score for Saya.
I just dislike the reasons he wrote in his review.
But that's just me, I just can't take anyone who write "original" or "predictable" in a review seriously.

It just make it seem that the reviewer is a fan of some LOLSORANDUM plot-twists, which he may be considering he loves Code Geass and Elfen Lied.

Every well written stories can be predictable if it follows some real thematic from the beginning to the end, and originality died a long time ago, the only thing that should be reviewed is the pure execution.

>>3746690
I guess he values 'originality' and 'unpredictability' a lot, though unfortunately there's not much of that to find in the VN medium (or even literature in general, it seems these days). There's certain things that work well and that people will go for most of the time, so there's no point in taking risks in something that's meant to attract buyers.

Video copypasta, sorted from EGS ratan.

90 - [GIGA!] Parfait ~Chocolat Second Brew~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SPUSBPrOKs&fmt=18

90 - [GIGA!] Baldr Sky Dive1 Trailer + Gameplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR2rjhJSXA&fmt=18

86 - [nekobanana] Omega no Shikai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlrr53LfPMs&fmt=18

86 - [FlyingShine] Swan Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xum5cZojDqM&fmt=18

85 - [Tarte] Katahane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdOubHpRZE&fmt=18

84 - [Light] Gunjou no Sora wo Koete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEWKaRxuWLo&fmt=18

82 - [Akatsuki Works] Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echCh0_CPSU&fmt=18

81 - [Favorite] Hoshizora no Memoria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ghrstCGg0&fmt=18

80 - [Liar-soft] Shikkoku no Sharnoth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQI0NK2T3EM&fmt=18

76 - [Akatsuki Works] Coµ - Kuroi Ryuu To Yasashii Oukoku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBgfuZ0VXX0&fmt=18

74 - [Innocent Gray] Kara no Shoujo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i225F7Kh4XQ&fmt=18

N/A - [Liar-soft] Hikari no Valcia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uaE0iwXcgc&fmt=22

>>3746784
Whoever that votes base their votes on the OP/ED has to be fucking retarded.

>>3746781
>All the major characters range from interesting to downright mysterious; none of them feel the least bit flat or archetypal to me.
>The mythos is large, detailed, and original

Fuck you /a/, I'm voting for Swan Song.

>>3746810
disney shit XD

Wow, Ixrec gave Saya a 8/10? I honestly think that's too high a score.

It pleases me that he gave the same exact score to Moon. though, because both games are equal in quality when it comes to story.

>>3746901
When did that (pic) happen?

>>3746908
Nitro+ Royale

Well, I'm ready to vote.

>>3746901
Dat alien ass.

>75 - Reika Mesuinu Choukyou
>68 - My girlfriend is the PRESIDENT

Voting for Romanesque.

>>3747234
It's not a coincidence Reika Bitch Training is on the list. It's a pretty cool game.

>>3746901


Wait...this CG definitely wasn't in Saya...

sauce?

>>3746901
I still can't get Moon. to run. fff

>>3747311
Reika Bitch Training sounds like the kind of game I wouldn't really need a translation to play.

>>3747495
Then you'd miss out on the endearing tale of how a girl comes to love animals quite so dearly.

No one's actually gonna vote for Reika Bitch Training

VOTE FOR I/O at least in the prems FOR KEEPING UP THE FLAME OF HACKERS VNS. We don't have any of those ;_;

I guess I should get to activating that botnet soon :3

>>3747570
Isn't I/O an all-ages game though? If so, DO NOT WANT

Hoshizora no Memoria
Parfait ~Second Brew~
France Shoujo

That's it.

>>3747452

Me either, i'm getting some bullshit error.

I will also be voting on
Hoshizora no Memoria
Parfait ~Second Brew~
France Shoujo

>>3747581
>France Shoujo
I'm rather surprised - that game is a far cry from your beloved moege's.

>>3747626

Well, I guess I will also go for
Hoshizora no Memoria
Parfait ~Second Brew~
France Shoujo

No samefag I swaer

These seemed like the best choice.

Hoshizora no Memoria
Parfait ~Second Brew~
France Shoujo

Hoshizora no Memoria
Parfait ~Second Brew~
France Shoujo

That's what I'm voting for.

I have to vote for the ones that have incest

>>3747577
>all-ages ... DO NOT WANT
Get the fuck out of /jp/.

I dunno what I wanna vote for.

I kinda want something with gameplay rather than just TEXTTEXTTEXTTEXTTEXTCHOICETEXTTEXTTEXTTEXT

Although, I do understand that is what a majority of the content in a VN is, i've been somewhat spoiled by Rance lately.

>>3747686
No I'm pretty sure /jp/ gets pretty butthurt times when there's porn, no matter how bad it is - that debacle over little LB for example.

> France Shoujo

Does this have anything going for it other than the CGs?

>>3747718
Well /jp/ is pretty childish...so I guess, like children, they can't handle a bit of nudity.

What a bunch of big, gay, babies.

>>3747718
>when there's NO porn
fix'd

>>3747727
>a bunch of big, gay, babies.
Wow, you may have just come up with the best description of /jp/ yet.

>>3747718
I don't care. They should get the fuck out.

>>3747719
I know they're done by Tony Taka, who's one of the most beatoffable artists around, but as for writing, who knows. All I know about it is that it sounds like it's about a French girl (girls?)

>>3747656
I'm a lolicon, and the art looks good.>>3747626

>>3747626
>>3747663
>>3747666
>>3747673
I hope this isn't a joke or some attempt to make me look like a dishonest samefagger.

>>3747656
I'm a lolicon, and the art looks good.

>>3747626
>>3747663
>>3747666
>>3747673
I hope this isn't a joke or some attempt to make me look like a dishonest samefagger.

>>3747786
You're gonna hate the fact the loli grows up in the game.

>>3747754
Your eccentric friend dies in bankruptcy. He leaves a run down mansion, a painting of a blond girl and the blond girl herself.
If I'm not mistaken the main 3 heroines are:
- The little French girl.
- Your friend's elder sister who is the head of a Shanghainese triad and can speak bogus Chinese
- Your non blood related sister who used to be a servant in your house but due to some reason she got "adopted" formally and incorporated to the family.

>>3747900
You forgot to mention the blonde girl grows up into a non loli. DISGUSTING.

>>3747717
then vote for Baldr Sky, its only title that has gameplay and has any chance of winning, altough the gameplay parts are something like 5%-10% of whole experience, the gameplay is still pretty decent too.

inb4 everyone votes something different and all /jp/ bitches when something shitty wins

>>3747997
As Long as H20, 12 Riven and Reika Mesuinu Choukyou are not chosen, I am fine with the results.

>>3747997
>>inb4 everyone votes something different and all /jp/ bitches when something shitty wins

Do want.

Just tell me what to vote for, broskies. Let's make this happen.

>>3748028
Kizuato.

As long as a VN is translated, I am fine with the results.

>>3747997

I hope this happens. I don't want those mechafags to get their way.

btw, vote for Sayonara wo Oshiete! We need some mystery/horror up in here.

Also, there seems to be a lot of support for France Shoujo... why do I get the feeling it might actually have a good chance of winning?

One minute sample of Baldr Sky Dive1 gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfr4nhgN8XU

One minute sample of Baldr Sky Dive1 gameplay/combo replay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMNlzrg20h0

>>3748044
I'll probably play Baldr or Muvluv if they are translated, but still would much prefer the combined butthurt when both of them are upset.

Anyone else thinking of placing a vote for Tsuyokiss?

Copy pasted from the Amaterasu poll nominations:

“Opening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGMt71kyxjs
Getchu: http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=139161
VNDB: http://vndb.org/v397

Genre: School Life, Comedy

Pros: Coodere Heroine, Lesbian Heroine, Yandere Heroine, most heriones are really charming, decent CGs, good humor, really great character interaction, some of the best-in-class character archtypes.

Cons: Drama is a hit and miss for some people. Humor can also be a hit and miss for some people.”

>>3748445

>>3748445
>Lesbian heroine
>The protagonist is an ordinary boy
Let me know how that works out

>>3748445
Lesbian heroine in Tsuyokiss??? Who? o_O

I'm guessing Hime is what they count as lesbian, with how much she messes with Yoppi

>>3748478
>>3748546
Menage a trois.

>>3748552
Well she likes tits but it doesn't makes her lesbian. She is perfectly normal in terms of sexual orientation.

Yeah, none of the heroines are actual lesbians. Hime just comes the closest. MAYBE Yoppi if you want to be generous, but she's straight too, just a nympho who would probably do it with a girl too

RuiTomo has an actual lesbian heroine, but then again, how is that a "pro" or con"?

>>3748690
That's a pro. Definitely. Unless that prevent Tomo from screwing the lesb heroine.

>>3748705
RuiTomo to win the next Amaterasu poll. Not this one.

>>3748577
>>3748552
>>3748445
In eroge, every girl is bi if the situation requires it. Hardly seems to be a reason to tag them as lesbians.

On the other hand, VNDB users being rather free with the tags is nothing new. It still amuses the hell out of me that this tag http://vndb.org/g563 still hasn't been used at ALL.

>>3748445

Hello again, its the guy who posted the info on Tsuyokiss. I was questioning the lesbian tag as well, but as I only finished two of the routes with Atlas; I figured I might have missed something.

Personally I don't see the whole lesbian thing as a pro or con, I just copied and pasted the info intact.

I would like to see the game translated because I liked the interactions between the characters, the humour and the cg/char artwork. It's also the first vn I tried to read with Atlas (but due to the length and crappy computer translation, I ended up dropping it, as I figured I was missing too much).

>>3748008
Man, what the hell. I'm getting the distinct feeling this poll is just a total publicity stunt. I just caught myself second guessing my decision of what to vote for for probably the 10th time. And there doesn't seem to be a clear majority here on /jp/ either.

Seriously, this decision should not feel like such a major event, but I find myself getting caught up in all the hype as people try to garner support for their chosen games.

Oh well, I think I'm just gonna go with my gut and stick with my original choice- 12Riven.

Yeah, fuck you >>3748008

Could some Swan Song faq explain whats the appeal of the swan song to me. Currently SS seems to me as one more drama VN and we have those enough already. I know that its survival drama, but can I except something more out of it than what I think I get from it (how ordinary people survive in harsh envairoment, how people act when theres no law (why hello there rape), climate is getting worse what do we do now, we are running out of the food we need to kill each others to preserve food, etc.)? So can I except something else than that or is even like that?

http://www.ggkthx.org/2009/11/17/announcements-from-gg/

Looks like Baldr Sky has won before the poll even started.

I will vote for Muv-Luv, and if I am allowed several votes, I will also vote for Reika's Bitch Training. I hope everyone does the same for their additional votes.

>>3748785
>announcements-from-gg recommending Baldr Sky
>implying Baldr Sky just won

More like lost

>>3748795
u mad?

>>3748785

Now I'm voting against it just to troll gg.

>>3748783
>drama VN

Um, what other kind of VN is there? Untranslated at least. I like the way Swan Song looks and I won't mind seeing it win. And the scenario seems like it's fairly untouched territory.

I'd rather see this win over some generic fetish/deviant (read: furry)/magical girl/shounen powerlevel bullshit.

I will vote for Muv-Luv.

You know? I`d be happy with most games on the list.
Except Mecha SHIT! Go back to /m/ you fucking fags

>>3748812
Glad to see you. We need more of your kind here.

>>3748810
I won't, because having to play two other games just to understand what the hell is going on in Alternative just seems like too much. Having to wait for full/partial translations of all three games does not please me. Assuming the group doesn't fracture and split at some point in the next several years.

I'd like to see the game that wins finished in my lifetime. Hell, I'd like to see it finished period.

>>3748785
That crappy sub group still exists?

Good thing Ixrec does these polls for his/our own amusement and simply translates whatever he wants.

Which fag would vote for "LOL LOOK IMMA RIDING MAH MECHA IM SO AWESOME" games?

I'm changing my France Shoujo vote to Remember 11. While I'd still play France Shoujo if it was translated, I'm more curious on seeing another release by KID other than Ever17. Their writing and suspense is simply top notch.

>>3748848
I don't know much about Muv-Luv, but Baldr Sky appears to be extremely story-focused with bits of mecha action here and there. If you dislike gameplay-related action in your VNs (like I do), try setting the difficulty to the easiest mode if/when you play Baldr Sky.

I admit, after seeing a gameplay video, the gameplay looks rather goofy, like a 90's arcade game.

Voting for MuvLuv Alternativ, Baldr Sky and Gunjou no sora wo koete or I/O

>>3748864
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Remember11_-_the_age_of_infinity

If you meant 12Riven - don't bother - the popular opinion is that it's the worst in the series.

>>3748891
Damn, it's already being translated? How far have they TL'd it?

I'll just switch back to France Shoujo then.

>>3748891
I don't know about popular opinion but I liked it a lot more than Never7.

I/O won't win, but dammit, that won't stop me from trying.

>>3748914
Ever17 > Remember11 > 12Riven >>>>>> Never7, although I enjoyed even Never7. It's still a pretty decent title.

I'm voting for Swan Song. I like the idea of a survival story. Baldr Sky and MuvLuv have good reputations, but their themes have failed to intrigue me thus far. Maybe if I knew more about them I'd be more hyped about one of them winning.

If I really need to pick a VN to be translated, I'd rather start with something a little different, rather than something fresh off the 'Been there, done that' express.

So guys, posting to say that the only real choice here is Kara no Shoujo. Do you enjoy your Umineko murders and detective work? Good, then vote for something which also has a story with murders, guro, and where a point and click mechanic works and makes you actually search for your clues in order to reach the end. Oh, the ending is also very depressing and all sorts of awesome, so take that in consideration.

So, yeah, vote KARA NO SHOUJO.

If you want something from Infinity series, don't bother with 12Riven and Never7. Vote for I/O.

Director - Nakazawa Takumi (Ever17, Remember11) and Tanaka Romeo (YMK, Cross Channel), music by Onoken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxDE1_T0usM
http://vndb.org/v96

>>3749007
>music by Onoken

I'm sold.

Aren't all of you tired of DEEP stories with walls of useless text?
Why not to vote for some lighthearted comedy for a change?

>>3749018

No.

A vote for Baldr is a vote against Muv-Luv.

>>3749018
How's RuiTomo? Light-hearted or serious business?

>>3749015
Another one from that list with Onoken is the doujin game Omega no Shikai. Nothing much is known from this series other than non-ero, mystery/sci-fi/supernatural, and involves cats. The series are much more obscure/cultish compared to Umineko.

http://vndb.org/v1162
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlrr53LfPMs&fmt=18

>>3749007
>Nakazawa Takumi
>Tanaka Romeo

Well. I may have to rethink my previous 12Riven stance. After watching the video, I'm going to have to think about this really hard.

Alright, the I/O guy really convinced me, too. Romeo and Nakazawa, plus Onoken seems like a good team. And then it's Kara no Shoujo + Swan Song!

>>3749025
And a vote for something else entirely is a vote well spent.

>>3749031
Balanced, there are times for amusing group events, heartwarming relationship with great chemistry, and action scenes involving character deaths.

>>3749058
...I'm getting tempted to vote for this.

>>3749052
Sounds like a good lineup. If enough of us vote along a similar line we may see one of them actually win.

Too bad a good team doesn't necessarily make a good game.
I/O was pretty average.

For BRICKS, Saihate no Ima has more and Kara no Shoujo is a better detective story.

>>3749064
It's not like Ixrec will be able to translate Saihate, though. I would vote for that too.

>>3749058
Too bad the best heroines don't get routes.

>>3749068
Who get routes and who don't?

>>3749002
Does Kara no Shoujo have a lot of dead ends? Because quite frankly, that's one of my favorite parts of VNs.

>>3749076
I don't think I've played any game with Dead Ends as good as Tsukihimes. Though admittedly, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

>>3749076
Yes, if you fail to get enough clues to proceed with your investigation along with other factors might lead you to bad ends often enough.

>>3749007 Director - Nakazawa Takumi (Ever17, Remember11) and Tanaka Romeo (YMK, Cross Channel), music by Onoken

>Both Nakazawa and Tanaka Romeo
>Onoken

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>3749076
Yes.
100000000000000 of them
Since you have to do everything in a specific fucking order

>>3749082
I was in the same boat until Aoishiro came along.

>>3749082
Phantom of Inferno has the best dead end ever.

>>3749095
Haven't gotten around to that yet. If the Dead Ends are that good, maybe I should do something about that soon.

Still, the words 'all ages yuri VN' make my blood run cold. Guess I'll have to get over it.

>>3749106
If you're still waiting, might as well put it off another month or so. I heard the TL will go in and fix a bunch of typos that have been reported, and somebody offered to work on the rest of the image editting, IIRC.

And of course, your mileage may end up varying.

>>3749071
The reverse trap, sister, and vampire don't get routes.

>>3749114
>somebody offered to work on the rest of the image editting
FUCK YES.

>>3749116
So who's who again? Despite being non-route characters does Tomo able to fuck them still?

>>3749118
Top right is reverse trap. The others aren't in the picture.
And no, no H scenes for them at all.

>>3749125
...SERIOUSLY?! And he looks like such a nice bro...

Hmm regarding heroines fuckability, I guess Ruitomo isn't like Comyu where you can screw around with non-route characters.

>>3749132
They probably did it in Comyu because of all the complaints.
Though it backfired since it reallly make it seem Akihito is an easy slut.

>>3749136
Ehh, he just loves women. Nothing wrong with that.

>>3749138
Made the relationships in the game feel cheap.
Though I don't think it was wrong, that's part of Akihito's nature I guess, the romance part of Comyu wasn't especially well done too.

>>3749141
Which is fine, because it's not really that sort of story anyway.

I/O isn't really that good, they went overboard with story telling. I can read moonspeak so I'll pass on this voting but if I were you I'd vote for ruitomo or ikusa megami zero (if you want vn with gameplay).

So, voting for Coµ or Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu?
They both seem interesting.

>>3749172
I'd agree with that mostly - it's not bad. It's certainly no worse than the Infinity games, but yeah, I wouldn't recommend it even over Remember11.

Too bad you can't vote for the best eroge of the year.
Oh well it'll probably be translated in a few year.

>>3749179
Personally I'll be rallying people for RuiTomo in next poll. This time Swan Song since I'm interested in it, and real deal fags would troll the shit out of RuiTomo if it won now.

>>3749184
The only reason we can't vote for the best eroge of the year is because its prequel needs to be translated first.
The reason we can't vote for the second best eroge of the year is that it's a nitroplus title and SUPPORT JAST(ry

>>3749193
>The only reason we can't vote for the best eroge of the year is because its prequel needs to be translated first.
What?

>>3749196
Mugen Kairou 2.

>>3749196
Okay, 'prequel' is the wrong word, I know. I mean the first title. Thankfully the first game is on the list, so you can nominate it this time round and hopefully get it translated, which will open the path for the best eroge of the year to be translated next.

>>3749187
Don't think that you can avoid trolling just by switching to Swan Song. Every project selection will be trolled, but that's fine. Don't let anything stop you from rallying for a game you'd love to play.

>>3749184
>>3749193

Depends on what you consider the best of the year.
Personally, I think it's either Muramasa, Baldr Sky or Oretsuba (with a slight edge to Muramasa) and 2 of them are licensed and have a good chance of being translated in the near future.

>>3749197
Oh right, I forgot that came out this year. Damn, it's been a long year.

>>3749202
I know I plan on posting a minimum of four Swan Song troll threads a day myself whether it wins or not (if it doesn't win, they'll be 'positive' trolls like 'Don't mind me, I'm just the best untranslated game you'll never get to play. if it does win, obviously 'itt overrated shit' and the like)

>>3749202
I want Swan Song too, though. And it will be easier to first get people to vote for that, later when the game people rallied for won it will be easier to gather more votes for RuiTomo, and you need more outside help for that since... You know, it's not so popular.

Here, best VNs so far in 2009, The Definitive List of opinions:
1. Steins;Gate
2. Full Metal Daemon Muramasa
3. Mugen Kairou 2
4. Baldr Sky DIVE1
5. Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!
6. Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
7. eden*
8. Hoshizora no Memoria
9. Natsuyume Nagisa
10. Shinigami no Seppun

>>3749213
Sounds like everything released in 2009 was shit.

>>3749213
what the fuck, some of the games were released at 2008. Also Comyu where? Your list is shit.

>>3749216
b/c Comyu is shit

>>3749207
That's fine with me. Despite numerous Disney and furry trolling, that doesn't stop me from being able to enjoy Sekien no Inganock personally. Unlike that tripfag from the other thread ( >>3747865 )

>>3749217
More like your opinion is shit.

>>3749214
With the exception of Steins;Gate, Full Metal Daemon Muramasa, Mugen Kairou 2, Baldr Sky DIVE1, Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!, Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai, eden*, Hoshizora no Memoria, Natsuyume Nagisa, Shinigami no Seppun, Himegari Dungeon Meister, Sakura Sakura, Trample on Schatten!, Yumina the Ethereal, Natsu no Ame, Tapestry, Mashiroiro Symphony, Sorairo and Bengarachou Hakubutsushi, you're right.

>>3749213
Personally I would push Eden and Shinigami no Seppun down and put Asairo and Tapestry somewhere in there.
Also I would switch Oretsuba and Majikoi.
I really should play Mugen Kairou 2 sometime, I played the first one but it wasn't really my thing.
Nice to see Natsuyume Nagisa on the list.

Also Steins;Gate on PC fucking where? I won't buy a fucking Xbox 360 just for one game.

Translating ruitomo will kill most of it's gags. Vote for Baldr Sky or Parfait.

>>3749227
STEINS;GATE is almost worth it. Probably not quite, but a version for keitai is coming out later, so that should be a cheaper way to play it. And yeah, Asairo and Tapestry should be on the list, you're right.

>>3749216
Which games were released in 2008?

>>3749223
How many of those are BEST GAEM EVAR tier?

>>3749230
Translating Baldr Sky would kill most of its interesting writing.

Translating Parfait might work, although it could potentially kill the gaijin gag. That's just one event in a fairly long VN, though.

>>3749239
The first three. Just the first one if you literally want BEST GAEM EVER because it is the BEST GAEM EVER.

have to say there was decent amount of good things this year, and dive2 has yet to come. Or is there more note worthy things coming this year still besides dive2?

Translating anything kills parts of it, that's just something that comes naturally. I hear Inganock's style is lost in English, and just sounds awful.

>>3749243
Hikari no Valcia

>>3749242
Okay, one average game was released this year.

Not bad. I'd even play it if wasn't by those... Nitrosomething guys, because they are popular, and popular games suck.

>>3749227
I don't know why, but Asairo got smashed in the EGS ratings. Any idea why? Because I played it, loved it and couldn't see anything to complain about.
It's surely not all about the game being single-path with one H-able heroine, right? After all, Muv-Luv Alternative did the exact same thing and it rated quite well.

>>3749248
I think it is that just one route and H-able heroine. Alternative was different in that case that there were EX/UL before it where you could H other heroines and everyone was like waiting alternative like raising sun when it was in development.

>>3749243
Well, I'm personally looking forward to:
November:
Hikari no Valusia
Shiden ~Enkan no Kizuna~
Atori no Sora to Shinchuu no Tsuki
Baldr Sky DIVE2: "Recordare"
Dark Blue

December:
Shirokuma Bellstars
Caucasus
Sugarcoat Freaks
Shinobi Ryuu
Dies Irae: Acta est Fabula
Gengetsu no Pandora
Gitai Saimin

>>3749248
That game A has no route for character X is one of the standard excuses for A's fanboys regarding its poor EGS score. It's most often bullshit of course, like Muv-Luv Alt, Tsukihime(!), F/SN(!) etc. show.

In a related note, Comyu. It's scores have gotten quite a lot better than what they were at some point, but they're still in the mid-70s range. By no means is it one of the best games ever; that its votes mostly range from mediocre to slightly above average is definitely caused by something else than the game not having a route for that one meido girl.

>>3749248
Because they promised routes for all heroines and had half-assed hscene for Araragi. People just fucking raged like a palms of holy star and this is quite understandable.

>>3749240
>although it could potentially kill the gaijin gag.

>>3749258
But the thing is that I've heard literally no other complaints about the game. I guess I'm more curious as to why it is hated to much when I loved it and everyone I've talked to also hates it. I'm used to enjoying eroges with really bad eroge scores, so I have no need to make excuses - I liked Touka Gettan, for a start.

>>3749258
Shut up, your post shows that you don't have even a slightest clue how hysteric EGS fanbase is.

>>3749240
>although it could potentially kill the gaijin gag.
Two will be killed at Sekien no Inganock.
Rice-booru, and shoppinggu

>>3749260
This, I remember LoSs was pissing shit in irc about it.

Hysteric is when people vote in the 0s to 60s
70s just mean they don't care that much

Did I heard someone said, "Dies Irae"?

>>3749258
Comyu is interesting, and evidently a bit of a polarizer. I loved it but not as much as Ruitomo, other people loved it a lot more. I've heard that the OP was misleading (what?), that the game contained too much filler text (what? no it didn't) and a bunch of other complaints. I'm not sure if it's one of my top 10 titles in the year but it still filled in a decent gap of time and I loved every minute of it.

Yeah, I think someone just said "Dies Irae".

>>3749270
He hasn't even played the game yet. Naturally, that hasn't stopped him from going to vndb and giving it a 6 http://vndb.org/v1483

The EGS userbase is absolutely retarted, I don't know why you guys base your opinion on it.

>>3749287
LoSs hasn't finished even a quarter of the games he's rated on VNDB; I wouldn't take that too seriously.

>>3749291
It's not retarded when it agrees with me though

>>3749287
What do you expect, Loss is pretty much a faggot and a troll.

>>3749287
He said he finished it and was pissed that there was no Waka route.

>>3749298
Yes, but that's what he was saying at the start anyway.

>>3749296
Yes, it can agree or disagree with you, hence you should just rely on your own opinion and tastes.
>>3749297
At least he translates shit unlike you and me. We just troll each other and shitting this board with usless posts.

Given that Waka is the protagonist's granddaughter I think that would be a bit too much.

Not that it stopped Hakuoro, I guess.

>>3749306
Have you seen LoSs' translation work? I think we're better off with the Japanese.

>>3749297
>>bawww, loss gave a shitty rating to my favorite game.

>>3749310
Have you?

Well I just wish someone would translate Ataraxia. I don't care for all these shitty MuvLuv France Parfait Shoujo Swan titles.

>>3749315
get out, type moon furry shit.

>>3749315
> grouping Muv-Luv with Disney titles
reaction face . txt

>>3749311
I long since lost track of which game the nested comment tree was actually referring to and couldn't care less honestly. I'm speaking strictly off my observations of his behaviour in forums and IRC.

Can anyone post a real synopsis of Saihate no Ima.
Read lots of things about it, like how difficult it is to read, but I still don't know anything about the story or what make it good.

>>3749312
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3733024#p3734817

>>3749328
Well if you haven't spoke with him directly I think you shouldn't say a stupid stuff like that.

>>3749329
Look, Saihate no Ima is something that it's hard to talk about without spoiling a lot of things. The way the game unveils the story is genius, and you're hardly going to want to thank me for revealing things in stark detail just to convince you that it's worth your time. So before I start hammering on about USERs and Nets and Classes, you're going to have to explain exactly what it is you want.

>>3749320
>calling France Shoujo a Disney title
>best Disney title ever made, fund it. star Snow White as Shoujo, one of the dwarves as Caliban, oh god this is terrible nevermind

>>3749335
It looks pretty different from the scripts on svn and stuff he posted at channel.

>>3749312
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Kono_Yo_no_Hate_de_Koi_wo_Utau_Shoujo_YU-NO:P01_4.MST

>>3749366
Now, now, that's not too bad. Well, except for
//L02FE9: 01 "【\protag】ま、芸術なんてのは評論家先生が認定するもんだからな。&qu
ot;
L02FE9: 01 "【\protag】Well, that which is classified as art is all in the eye of the beholder, after all."
which is outright wrong, but otherwise I've few problems with the translation or the quality of the English writing. It may be a little stilted but that's standard for eroge translations.

>>3749408
Are you looking at it before or after it went through numerous re-edittings? Try the raw LoSs from the early part of the history.
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Kono_Yo_no_Hate_de_Koi_wo_Utau_Shoujo_YU-NO%3AP01_4.MST&a
mp;diff=34737&oldid=33435

>>3749433
Why would you want to see a raw text? He said at comments that this text must be checked and tlc'd, I see nothing wrong with looking at the latest revision.

>>3749366
>>3749408
Sorry to interject, but that script has been TLC'd, edited here and back multiple times, and it's really different than Loss' translation by now.
Phar, our main TL went through it and changed it to his own style, as we'd like to avoid discrepancies, and noticeably different translation styles caused by the multiple translators.
><Phar> oh that, it originally says classified by the 'critics'
><Phar> I figured this sounded better.
It says in the comment too down there as you can probably see.
>// Was: 'Well, after all the arts are to be certificated by critics.' lit: 'Well, what classifies as art is up to the critics.'
Koudai really has his own peculiar style and the english line is totally in his character (obviously you won't find Eye of Beholder anywhere). If you really want to blame something for that line, then blame me or the generous editing by the editor.

If you want to find out what LoSs' translation is like, then check it via the history:
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Kono_Yo_no_Hate_de_Koi_wo_Utau_Shoujo_YU-NO:P01_4.MST
&diff=prev&oldid=34737
(obviously be so nice, and ignore the typos and shit. P01_4 is the hardest script of the prologue, and it's in the top5 of most difficult scripts in all the game).

>>3749448
Because it really can't be called Loss' own translation anymore. Phar changes a lot to ensure that everything would feel like his own style.

"Cannonball" looks pretty good, I think I'll be voting for this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_6Rp0uQZ8&feature=PlayList&p=ACB01E78809E4588&playnext=
1&playnext_from=PL&index=5
http://vndb.org/v602

>>3749452
I can't see anything outrageous in this translation. What's all commotion about?

>>3749452
I see

>>3749469
It's just one faggot thinking he spotted a "translation error" just because the line was changed around a bit to sound better in English.

>>3749452
Well, the main point is that the expression given by the original line and the 'beholder' line are quite different - in the original, he's saying that critics (the use of 評論家先生 clearly don't mean just anyone but Actual, Important People) classify that which is Art - rather than a generic statement that people have different views on what counts as Art.

But otherwise, thanks for the translations, they're all working real good (;

>>3749482
Actually, I complimented the translation. It's certainly better than the Sharin no Kuni one, and did anyone here have a big problem with that one?

>>3749486
Haha, I was wondering why Derek posted that until I read the last line

>>3749491
What was wrong with the Sharin no Kuni translation?

>>3749497
It's fairly low on outright translation errors, but suffers from being 'smoothed' probably partly because of translator inexperience and overaggressive editing. It usually goes something like:

1) Translator doesn't quite understand a complicated line, so he translates to a less complicated form that delivers much the same message but without less expressiveness and detail.
2) Translation checker sees it and either gives it the okay or, in most of the cases I've seen, smooths it down even more.
3) Editor isn't exactly sure what the translator's English is saying, because it's still fairly close in structure to the original Japanese line, and rewrites it in proper English, but this ends up being another simplification.

I suppose it's basically like resaving a JPG a bunch of times. Not a problem generally, but I'm more worried about this same translator working on G Senjou no Maou, which contains a lot more 'tricky lines', several of which you can see in the stuff that's already been translation checked by the new translator - we're talking generally stuff like not knowing who Perry is (missing that reference), stuff that is generally not all that important to the plot by itself but overall dumbs the work down. Not something people will enjoy as much as they could have otherwise.

>>3749486
//L02FE9: 01 "【\protag】ま、芸術なんてのは評論家先生が認定するもんだからな。&qu
ot;
L02FE9: 01 "【\protag】Well, after all the arts are to be certificated by critics."

>>>/m/4141995

/m/ is rallying for MLA. What would you do /jp/? Oppose the movement or just give up to the torrent of fags who'd fap to mecha instead of story and moe?

>>3749518
Yeah, it's more correct a line, even if it does sound like ass.

English isn't my native language either but I would probably go for something more like:
"Well, what's art and what isn't art is something that's decided by the powers that be anyway.", swapping out 'powers that be' for a better sounding relevant idiom as necessary.

I suppose I just don't like using the word 'critic' here, so I can understand why that was replaced, but in the process the meaning was altered, and I feel that much should be avoided.

>>3749515
There was no translation checker in the Sharin no Kuni project, but yeah I can see how that could happen a lot. I consider stuff like that to be expected from fan translations though, it's not like there's a bunch of people who want to translate visual novels, people just have to take what they can get.

>Perry
Who?

Oh and remember, TLWiki is an open project. If you see a translation error, you could always just correct it yourself.

>>3749523
Let 'em vote for it, it'll just be delayed indefinitely even if it does win due to the engine not being hacked (I'm pretty sure Ixrec doesn't feel that the text replacement hook is sufficient)

>>3749523
>implying that MLA doesn't have story and moe

>>3749523
I'll vote for it because I'm an idort

>>3749529
From the first script:
[nm t="栄一" s=eii_0063]「She seems to be drawing something. Is that a penguin? The name of the penguin is... Pelli. Specialty is opening the kingdom's gate. Some kind of weird character setting.」[np]
;;[nm t="栄一" s=eii_0063]「うわ、なんか絵描いてる。あ、ペンギン？　ペンギンに名前つけ
てる……ペリー、得意技は開国……なんか、変なキャラ設定があるっぽい
……」[np]

Look, I know it's not that important, but if the translator doesn't catch the simplest of references like this, how is he really going to translate a VN filled with the things? Maou likes wordplay.

>>3749547
If you think you can do a better job, go ahead and do so.

>>3749552
Okay.
*page459|
;栄一の顔が引きつる。[np]
Eiichi's face stiffens.[np]

@mface name=eiichi_a_se_11_s
*page460|
;[nm t="Eiichi" s=eii_0063]「うわ、なんか絵描いてる。あ、ペンギン？　ペンギンに名前つけ
てる……ペリー、得意技は開国……なんか、変なキャラ設定があるっぽい
……」[np]
[nm t="Eiichi" s=eii_0063]"Wha... she's drawing a picture. A... penguin? The penguin is named... Perry. Special technique: the opening of a country to the global economy... that's a strange character..."[np]

*page461|
;[nm t="Kyosuke"]「さ、さすがに気になってきたな……」[np]
[nm t="Kyosuke"]"It.. certainly is.."[np]

@mface name=haru_d_se_22_s
*page462|
;[nm t="Haru" s=har_0030]「おい……」[np]
[nm t="Haru" s=har_0030]"Oy..."[np]

*page463|
;不意に、宇佐美が後ろを振り返った。[np]
Suddenly, Usami turned around and looked at us.[np]

*page464|
;[nm t="Haru" s=har_0031]「見るな」[np]
[nm t="Haru" s=har_0031]"Don't peek."[np]

Kidding, no, I'm not a translator. Besides, translators get pissy if you try and take over their project.

>>3749558
As proof I'm not a translator, my translation for 「さ、さすがに気になってきたな……」[ is actually totally wrong.

>>3749558
>translators get pissy if you try and take over their project.
I can't speak for anyone else, but as one of the G-Senjou translators I'd *really* appreciate if you did fix any errors and missed references like that you find.

Translation-wise this take is better
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Kono_Yo_no_Hate_de_Koi_wo_Utau_Shoujo_YU-NO:P01_4.MST
&oldid=34737 but from what I can tell the translator isn't a native English speaker. He has good grasp of but he can't retell it in the decent English. Though a good editor should be able to fixed everything there.

>>3748785
I like gg

>>3749574

Really now?

//L05BF1: 01 "【\protag】手書きでびっしり書いてあるな‥‥なになに。"
L05BF1: 01 "【\protag】The letters are looking pretty neat... let's see..."

//L063B9: 01 "【\protag】鏡に、妙な形の物体‥‥いったい何なんだ。"
L063B9: 01 "【\protag】There is an object of werid form, attached to the Mirror... what can it be?"

//L07134: 01 "【\protag】ははは‥‥あの野郎が、簡単にくたばる訳がないと思ってい
たんだ。"
L07134: 01 "【\protag】Hahaha, that bastard, no way he will simply die like this."

>>3748785
They're in for a great disappointment.

Isn't gg a translation group?
Why don't they translate Baldr Sky themselves?

>>3749618
On a scale of 1 to 10 for translation difficulty, manga would be 1, anime 2, and VNs 8.5.

>>3749607
How did they fixed it?

>>3749627
I'd say Vns are in a range of 4-7, mostly.

>>3749627

Are you including the cleaning that goes into Manga scanlations?

>>3749607
Another anon here.

I was kinda looking forward to reading YU-NO in English but it looks like that I'd be better off struggling with the original script on my own.

>>3749618
Anime episode is usually about 20 minutes, and there's no dialogue for all of those 20 minutes.
VN can go for as long as 20 hours with something you have to translate all the time.
>>3749630
That's not part of the translation, silly!

>>3749633

If you'd have read the previous post, you'd have known this was an early revision.

>>3749633
Yeah, do it. It's not like anyone forcing you to read it in English.

>>3749627
Everything depends. You also have hard to translate mango/animu and easy to translate eroges.

I'd say that you have to put 50% or 100% more effort in translating an eroge (not counting average length) than a manga, given that they're similar (or an adaptation).

>After reading the review of BALDR SKY Dive 1, I would like to rally people to vote for it because it’s apparently CODE GEASS: THE VISUAL NOVEL and gg fucking loves everything Code Geass.

What?
Is Code Geass even good? Isn't this an insult to Baldr Sky?

>>3749648
Code Geass is much better than Baldr Sky.

>>3749648
Depends on your tastes and seasons.

>>3749648
This is just Moogy being idiotic.

>>3749648
From what I've heard, the first season was ok, but the second one was G:SD tier.

>>3749648
Code Geass is pretty good. It has mecha and battle of wits and Shirou-like second protagonist.

>>3749648
Code Geass is fine and Baldr Sky is fine.

But Baldr Sky is nothing like Code Geass in any way, shape or form and anyone that says otherwise hasn't played Baldr Sky OR watched Code Geass. The very notion is utterly ridiculous to anyone familiar with Baldr Sky.

>>3749633
You prolly missed that due to that opinion battle (which I don't even know why is it so important, or even related to the Ammy poll), but these were Loss' early translations.

You have no need to worry, we put all our love and care into it. Just try the prologue patch this week or the next week when we release it, and see it for yourself how's it going to be.

sage for offtopic shit.

>>3749693
I bet you'll disappear before the year's end.

>>3749706
I bet you'd like that, huh?

>>3749706
And nothing of value was lost.

So you gonna waste your votes on mecha shit?

>>3749904
you do know that alternative and baldr are not mecha right? if something has mechas doesnt equal that they are about mechs.

>>3750023
>has mechas =/= mecha

>>3749002

I had no interest in that game at all before, but now it almost sounds like the most interesting game. Too bad I'm not that much for the genre, but the whole interaction of clicking stuff did sound awesome.