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Go for Houjou and defend against Iga at the same time.
Build up troops from defending both and focus attacks on Houjou.
If you're getting fustrated with doing both, just take out Iga completely(make sure you have Suzume), or just beat them(without Suzume), and you'll get another chance to recruit Inukai.

Why recruit Inukai? He sucks.

Aren't takeda going to beat shit out of uesugi relatively soon?

>>3732096
Only on your first run.

get kenshin

I'm on my first playtrough but I can't seem to defeat the fucking team of 6 monster commanders of the demon army. I'm near the end but it feels like my troops are just too weak. Should I just defend and keep recruiting more troops?

>>3732159
Increase stats

>>3732159
In those battles, your absolute first priority should be to kill off the annoying attack-all magic commanders. Learn to manipulate Battle Ratings.

The monster battles are actually a good way to learn techniques that'll be absolutely essential in higher difficulties.

>>3732085
The scenes between Inukai and your other ninjas are hilarious. Plus he gives Suzume and Kanami a free level up each. I like him.

>>3732215
He's pretty useless otherwise, though.

I end up just sending Gekkou after him and saving myself several valuable action fans.

>>3732191
>Learn to manipulate Battle Ratings.

Mind explaining that to me or linking me to a pae where I can read up on it?

How do I use Hanny right?

>>3732347

You can never use hanny right

>>3732349
So it is impossible to win FFA?

As long as you don't miss any event-based recruiting opportunities, is there any reason to have unused nation power?

>>3732347

Have fun.

>>3732362
Yeah. Raising your troop count scales the enemies, so often it's not worth recruiting troops (which would elevate commanders' NP consumption). If you have 30 commanders, but lots of unused NP, there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe build Ninja/Musketeer/Footsoldier/Diviner schools with it.

oh did the 2nd episode ever get subbed?

>>3732397
You don`t need subs for "I want to fuck her"

>>3732407
Then why did the game need to be translated?

>>3732407
>>3732355
>>3732347
Is this as bad as it looks, or is it worse?

>>3732407

Well yeah, it did make me realize how much I miss 80's anime.

>>3732420
It is ancient. Don`t expect too much.
Episode 2 was hilariously good.

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>>3732379
So wait, are you telling us it's viable to keep the commanders' initial troop count? Surely (some) countries raise their troop count as time goes on, regardless of what you do.

demon army appeard, should i take mouri down, or forget them and proceed west?

>>3732597
Mouri first, the maids are awesome

>>3732459

I know that your foot soldiers' troop count does not scale enemies, so you should always max your soldiers.

Other than that, I don't know. Does anyone know if it makes any sense to raise troop numbers or should you just save the gold for replenishment?

>>3732419
they are talking about the game dumbass

I'm on Ran, clearing characters... should I just conquer One-Eyed considering I probably don't have time to capture his wives?

>>3732706
*not

Anyone here knows how to get the "Way of the lolicon" bad end?

>>3732796

You have to talk with Katsue a lot (that footsoldier you start out with), the options will be obvious

>>3732800
Like how much?

>>3732818

You have to get him to trust, I believe

>>3732800
I selected that option and never got a bad end...

>>3732707
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>>3732829
He's on trust... could it be that I shouldn't have cleared him?

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>>3732459
Troop counts increase when you win fights with that commander.

Oh man, how the fuck i supposed to destroy armies, which are greater than my total country troops?

>>3732864
>>3732707
If you're going for points, don't bother with One-Eyed at all.You won't defeat Masamune without having captured his wives unless Rance is at an ungodly level + really high stats (Eyedrop = full health and he has really high speed). Plus, each of the wives has Auto Heal, which means you won't get end-game points from them. So the likely 6 actions mnimum to beat each wife, then recruit them, then talk to them, THEN beat dokuganryu twice (once in troop combat, once in one-on-one), will be annoying.

On the other hand, you've already gone through the larger territory, so if you already have Akashi cleared, go for it, and at least get 10 points from beating and then clearing Masamune for it (plus he'll help in the last fight)

>>3733052
I guess for now I'll defend territory while trying to get his wife.

Any other suggestions for end game? Soun has already dissappeared but hasn't opened the gates yet.

Basically I was clearing characters but it seems I'm not getting a lot of satisfaction to get 4 action points

>>3733036
I would use my diviners, which I generally have a minimum of 2-3 (Elina, Ran/Souun, Omachi) and protection paper, then have a foot soldier with All Guard, and use the guard shikigami, while natori and/or one of the diviners uses an attack that hits everyone.

In your case you'd need a little luck. Let's see...

Natori, Kouhime, Uesugi Kenshin, Suzume (or Yamamoto Isoroku if she has Whirlwind Shot), Naoe Ai, and throw the monk in too. You need to assassinate Iehisa (where the luck comes in- you may not be able to kill him but you might succeed in annihilating the unit), then have natori use miko storm after your foot soldier switches to all-guard mode. Then have your monk guard cancel, and use Uesugi to weaken (but not kill) the ninja. Use Ai to attack the monk in back or debuff if Shimazu and/or the ninja get buffs that are too strong. Don't have Kenshin attack if Shimazu has any Guard % at all, because he -will- destroy her.

>>3733076
There's Tamagushi. If you get Natori from the Miko institute and get both of them high enough in satisfaction, you will be able to clear Tamagushii and get end-game points (I think) as long as you don't go into the Orochi dungeon.

>>3733124
Right now, that would take too many steps.
I guess I'll make the "Arcade game" dungeon. After clearing some other troops I have.

>>3733118
for some unknown reason my assassinations fail about 4 of 5 times, both suzume, yuzumi or yamomoto. I assume this is because of army size, but its completely screwing me.

Err, how am I supposed to get points for bonus on a new game?
I got 5 points, but that's all. Already finished the game twice and still 5 points. I want the kill the monkey rute... Or where I can find a saved file that can help me?

>>3733192
Try complete game faster on higher difficulty. Otherwise use artmoney.

>>3733204
artmoney?

>>3733216
Well i used it to hack sengoku rance, but i guess any editing utility will do.

>>3733192
Use Cheat Engine. Google it. Memory reader/injector. I always use it to save time in grinding games.

>>3733192 Err, how am I supposed to get points for bonus on a new game?

1) Play on higher difficulties (60 points = normal, 120 points = 1-star, 150 points 2 -start, 200 points 5-star)

2) Beat the route quickly since you lose 1 point/turn

3) Character clear easy to clear commanders (2 points for each commander cleared, only uniques and female generics can be cleared)

4) get end-game points (+2 points per commander that has it, can only be obtained if their passive slot is empty)

5) Do the objectives (+10 points for each objective not counting character clears. Starting withf easiest to get, 30k troops, Defeat Youkai King, 6 Great Treasures, Fuck 300 women, Defeat Orochi. The last two may not yield positive point gains, though the 300 women is pure luck to get.)

Is it possible to melt Miki's ice?

>>3733298
Yeah, ask her to help.

>>3733298

Give it a shot and find out.

>>3733316
Good one.

>>3733298

Sill being frozen atm is the canon end, don't even try.

For people who have no points: try playing better next time and give everyone you can END GAME POINTS. I don't understand why nobody does this.

>>3733316
it worked, thanks

I'm on Ran route and wiki says that the Shimazu brothers will take one of my female commanders, but when does this happen? After I conquer a certain amount of territories?

>>3733363
It happens randomly, around 10-20 turns after the war with them started, suzume will tell you that they will start going after your female commanders. only commanders who are in love with rance are immune against this, the info on the wiki is wrong.

>>3733162
That's why I said you'd need luck. Although I've noticed a few things that seem to make a difference. These are just my observations and opinions. Your mileage may vary.
First, obviously, if an opponent has assassin guard you shouldn't even bother. If they're special and named, like the shimazu brothers, you're unable to kill them directly. However, it lowers the chance to succeed, but you can still annihilate them. Whirlwind Shot and Aim and Shoot are more likely here. You also have a high chance of capturing a "unique" commander if this succeeds, assuming they can be captured at all.
If a foot soldier intercepts an assassination attempt, it seems more likely to work than not against the foot soldier.
If the enemy has no action fans less, it seems more likely to work (There's one unit that also has 100% against an enemy with no action fans left).
It seems much less likely to work against ninjas, and slightly less likely to work against guarding foot soldiers unless they're intercepting an attempt.
... It's also possible that it works worse in general against enemies with high intelligence, but I haven't really been able to confirm this by assassinating because it's difficult to check a foe's intelligence before or after assassination.

I've been thinking about starting this game but it seems so complicated and hard. Is it really hard to get started with?

>>3733450
It was when it wasn't translated.

Now it's kinda ok.

The first playthrough is designed having in mind that you're new so you can experiment a bit with it. Don't worry if you're not doing to good.

>>3733450
First playthrough walks you through a lot, if you pay attention to the scenes. just remember that if an event shows up in red, it leads to a battle, if it shows up in purple it leads to a new or important scene.

>>3733464
ok, thanks. I guess i'll give it a try then.

so i finally asessinated shingen... but im currently on true history route with 3 gourds broken (oda,takeda,ashikaga) ....

so if i want to get the takedas, i need to enter a non Demon Army route... so my only choice is Ran Route, i already captured Ran and its on my army, also Hojou has the last territory...

but i havent defeated Tenshi sect since i wanted Seigan... but wiki says that you need to give back manmaru to Seigan... but what if i never got her since i didnt attack them?... do i need to wipe out the shit of tenshi sect to get on Ran route?

>>3734192
the wiki is pretty unclear on this, if you dont defeat the tenshi sect everything is okay. You only have to give her back if you conquered them.

>>3734271
>slipped
Oh Rance, you card

Holyfuck, this is 3rd attack, what's wrong with demon army?

>>3734674
Diviners?
Cannon units?

>>3734751
no diviners, only maria and yuzumi. Maria is damn slow and yuzumi fail with killing way too often.

>>3734779
Try maybe spending some of your 64,000 golds, then.

>>3734674
I hate when that happens.
I left one of them with THREE fucking people left in their last unit, I had all my units at or above 70% health.

YOU LOSE

Fuck those attacks. Throw ninjas with assassinate, 56, and Yuzu at the buggers. Reload until they all get a first-turn insta-kill.

Having Fun?

wtf is a umetarou?

>>3735155

I'm guessin she's the bitch in the piture? Idk.

>>3735155
Parody on Momotarou.
Power levels on /jp/ are dropping fast lately.

>>3734798

It fucking pisses me off when shit like this happens.

>>3735264
Or when you switch Rance or Kentarou in a fight against Xavier to protect them from an attack and they take forever to reappear.

>>3735264
I've had stuff like this happen a few times, though mostly in troop battles. It's pretty frustrating.
But then, once you've owned the game repeatedly, you can play on Normal difficulty like it's a goddamn sandbox game.

>>3735281

I remember on my first playthrough that I switched out Rance when he was out of moves and wasn't aware of the fact that you needed him or Kentarou in your group to deal damage. I began to rage as I did zero damage.. I would have easily killed Xavier on my first try too. Shit sucked.

new to this game, what the benefit from vassaling territories and any that I should or shouldn't vassal?

>>3735656
don't bother vassaling, there aren't any real benefits

So /jp/ I'm on my second playthrough and looking at my progress report reveals you can vassal Hara. The wiki mentions nothing about this that I can find and I can't seem to activate it. A little hint?

>>3735816
Why would you want to vassal the second weakest house in the game?

>>3735827
Because I can (and I don't much care about Shouji or Akihime).

>>3735832
That works. Still, I have no idea how you vassal Hara. I always just kill them and enjoy my S&M before going to war with Ashikaga and whoever else looks at me funny.

>>3735816
just conquer most of their territories, the vassal option should show up

the fuck? Hara bitches on my hood?

>>3735816
Take two territories, then do the neg option.
Enjoy your ~300 shitty archer commander and lack of satisfaction.

>>3735928
yah that weridly happened to me too on one of my playthroughs

Vassaling is a way to conquer a country really quickly with a 100% chance of success at no cost, without using combat resources. You can keep conquering in the same turn you've vassaled, too. I even hear that opposing countries can't attack your vassals, if that's true you could use a vassal as a sort wall. It's not entirely useless to vassal, you just have to be aware that conquering is usually a far better idea.

>>3735934
Well what do you know. I guess in my first playthrough I just killed them so quickly I didn't notice.

Well that's a satisfying vassaling. Severed heads for all!

>>3735955
Enjoy your vassal eventually getting Demon Army'ed and having a fifth column pop up deep inside your own territory.

>>3735995
Tanegeshima won't be Autoconquered.

>>3735997
Considering how easy they are to slap around, you'd be better off conquering them than vassaling.

>>3736002
Oh of course, I'm just pointing it out. And of course Tokugawa just plain revolts.

>>3735997
Neither will Asai-Asakura, I think. Still, it's better to conquer them outright. At best, vassal events save you one or two turns.

>>3735928
This always seems to happen to me on a Ran route. Regardless of whether I have Shouji recruited or stuck rotting in my prison.

>>3736010
No no, I mean Tangeshima won't be auto-conquered if you have them as a vassal. I'm pretty sure they will be if you won't. One Eye and Asai-Asakura just plain aren't auto-conquered, though I've no idea why. Personally I just vassal Asakura because I've got a soft spot for em, and it's not like they're any real threat or boon.

>>3736023
Easy satisfaction, plus Hakkin Dasan (I know most people just kill him, but he starts with excellent stats, is easy to clear, and gets quite a lot of troops though panda hunts) and Yukihime will incite your neighbors against you so you don't have to waste time declaring war.

>>3736023
the National Power bonus for clearing that one dude is pretty useful.

>>3736036

Hakkin is a shitty commander. At least Senhime gives SAT, doesn't scale enemy armies, has a better level cap (and starting level as well I believe), and can use level 1 action books. All for roughly the same NP cost as Hakkin.

Oh hey how do I get the Emperor Ring from the fish (I would guess get him to trust) and what does it do?

>>3736036
That's interesting, I didn't know the Panda Hunts gave him extra troops. I'll have to try that for the heck of it someday!
I still don't know if he's worth it, though. I seem to remember that "Animal" units were quite awful, regardless of stats, and his NP cost is absurdly high. Giving him additional troops might actually scale your opponents for a lot more power than he gains.
In any case it'd be fun trying at least once.

>>3736105
I don't remember Hakkin himself much, but the other animist units are the amazing old men, and their purpose is to be awesome at non-combat stuff.

>>3736094
you just need to enter a route, except kenshins, raises all stats by 1

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>>3736110
That is correct, that's why I said "regardless of stats". The Old Men have awful combat stats while Hakkin's are fairly impressive, but I'm not quite sure it makes much of a difference. It'll be fun to try.

>>3736180
The reason why Hakkin is so bad is not because of his stats, but because Animal users are shit in general.

There's just no making up for having the lowest ATK and DEF troop base stats while having the second highest recruitment cost.

>>3736205
Yes, that's pretty much what I said earlier. Good stats and huge number of troops most likely won't be enough to compensate (the additional troops might actually hurt you more than they'd help).
I'm still gonna do a few tests sometime, I'm just not convinced he won't still suck.

>>3736175
torrent.
>>3736205
I just cleared him once and will never bother again with that piece of shit.

7s in all stats dont help when you have shitty base modifiers.

Wondering if I could get a little help on figuring out what the last couple of empty cg spots are and how to get them.

I'm missing 24, 37, 68, 74, 86, 97. Thanks in advance for anyone kind enough to help out.

>>3738056
24-Capture South Africa in true route to get Kurohime's bondage H-scene.
37-Vassal Uesugi and capture Ai in a fight with another family.
68-Leave Komatsu in jail for a long time until her fans start asking you to release her.
74-In Ran's route or Kill the Monkey capture all of the Shimazu brothers and then conquer all of the Shimazu territories.
86-Get 3000 cavalry troops and talk to Mokko.
97- Let Leila get captured by the demon army in the true route or Isoroku's route.

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>>3738066
Thanks a lot Suigin, I appreciate the help

I've beaten this game already but only in true route and I suck only 5 points. Does anyone have any good saves? I found a good one that gives all items but it turns a lot of the text back into japanese and since I don't understand it its kinda hard to use the items. Compared to half of the posters on here I really suck or just lack a lot in luck.

>>3738067
Соси хуй, быдло.

>>3738935
You played through it once. Everyone's first game is like that, plus there's only one route in the first playthrough. Play a second game and try to beat it as fast as you can now.

>>3738935
Nearly everyone is like that. Take Elina and do a quick ran route. It's enough to end up with somewhere around 30-50 points. After that you can do whatever the fuck you want, like completing all routes and then doing another Ran run for maximum points.

>>3738968

>Ran run

>maximum points.

5-star monkey route here, Ran route is a bitch for total points.

>>3738968
Just wondering if this is normal but I can never beat Xavier I usually have to restart like 3-4 times so he's down to lvl 68. Is this normal for everyone else?