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A place for discussion of the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
MEGA Link
https://mega.nz/folder/3hMjEaTK#TKTKhfXVd9v0emG8ePsDVQ

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf (embed)
Tsukihime Remake Assets (OST and Sprites)
https://pastebin.com/ZLiqB1AT (embed)
Tsukihimates and Clover Moon MTL Project (Please contribute if you can)
https://github.com/Tsukihimates/Tsukihime-Translation

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3113948
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/xjmoqcdqzmmyc/Fate_hollow_ataraxia
Fate/Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://ww.mangakakalot.tv/manga/manga-kc952437
Heaven's Feel Movie Booklet Translation
https://imgur.com/a/se9NHn6

>Angel Voice
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate Franchise Lossless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI

Past thread: >>37254954

>> No.37276209
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I just wanna say that I love Arcueid and Shiki and Ciel and they are all amazing. The bestest!

>> No.37276276

>>37275997
This is true, but unlike the killing A method vs. killing B method argument, the nature is pretty different. This is a bit of an exaggerated example but it's like if some kids are having a spat and when they take a breather the loser pulls out his dad's gun as a joke.

>>37276043
Except he actually does halfway do that at that point and far more earlier in the VN, especially in the Noel fight where he has some ridiculously precise insights in the heat of the moment like where Ciel basically saying righteousness is determined by who wins is an implicit apology. The choice to tell Arc he'll hate her gains Arc points because it implies that he doesn't already hate her. This isn't something you have to think hard about, it's just basic social intuition.

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>>37276136
>>37276276
>/tmg/ in the name field
Why are you people like this?

>> No.37276545
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>>37276502
sorry I forgot

>> No.37276724

>>37273207
That bad end fucked me up good. I literally had to take a break from the game after reading that one.

>> No.37276950

Can someone who is not a retard make the OP next time? They’ve been bad or missing the links for a bit.

>> No.37276951

>>37276276
Shiki using violence or being willing to kill with his eyes isn't out of character if he deems it necessary to do so. Even in both cases of killing the nature of the scene is different. That's why attempting to impeach Shiki for the latter by citing the former is disingenuous.

>> No.37276972
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Post cute pockey day art.

>> No.37276973

>>37276276
So what's your argument here? That the writing is bad because Shiki didn't think Arcueid was lying about her ultimatum(for some reason) and that he killed her unintentionally?

>> No.37276998

New Fate Zero 10th Anniversary art: https://youtu.be/go3NrExsDMM

>> No.37277003

>>37276998
10 years since zerofags ruined the fandom.

>> No.37277246

>>37276998
>>37277003
I like Kotomine DESU.

>> No.37277311

>>37276276
The stuff with Noel is more ideological, which makes sense because in a sense she's the rejection of Shiki's principles for the route (people can't truly repent for their actions from Ciel/senseless violence is hot actually from Aoko)

>> No.37277379

is the writing bad in the KnK novels?

>> No.37277403

>>37277379
The writing is good. This is based off of the 2007 version (which everyone reads nowadays anyway). Maybe the originals are different dunno.

>> No.37277827

Stubbing your toe on a chair unironically hurts real bad, so no wonder shiki went ballistic

>> No.37277843 [SPOILER] 
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Illya has not changed one bit.

>> No.37277878

>>37277827
Mystic Eyes Awakening should have started playing when the chair scene happened desu.

>> No.37278431

>>37276998
>>37277003
>>37277246
Why is Fate/Zero widely regarded and often cited as a masterpiece?

>> No.37278438

>>37278431
Because people are fucking retarded. Don't get me wrong, it's a good prequel but that's all it is.

>> No.37278912

>>37278431
It’s a well directed show and looks impressive especially for the time it was coming out in. It’s not surprising that it’s be popular. It also has a tone that is very different from FSN so it’s make sense for casuals to be out off by it.

>> No.37278952
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Which is your favourite Shiki schizo/spaghetti moment, /tmg/?

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day of pocky

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>> No.37279095

>>37278912
>It also has a tone that is very different from FSN

How is Zero different from HF?

>> No.37279109

>>37278952
What happened to the edgy Nasu that wrote KnK, Tsukihime, Melty Blood, and FSN/FHA?

>> No.37279120

>>37279109
He wrote Tsuki R and it was kamige.

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>>37279120
so far it's edgier apart from no kohaku rape 2bh

>> No.37279178

>>37278431
>>37278912
What did Nasu mean by this?

>The rule in the Fate version Heaven’s Feel is actually rather simple.

1. A battle royale between seven magi and their Servants, acting as familiars.
2. Servants are materialised in Heroic Spirit form, according to an appearance ‘suitable to the era’.
3. Master has three absolute commands of the Servant.
4. The final survivor wins the right to possess the Holy Grail.

>That’s how it’s like. Although there are other details, they are branches and leaves whose rules will be established as long as the root and trunk of the tree exists. In fact it is very simple and basic. Because of that, the kind of story created is completely dependent on the creator’s outrageous imagination. It can be a cruel boy-meets-girl, or a vigorous tangled battle.

>Fate/stay night belongs to the former. What about Zero?

>Of course, I don’t need to talk about Urobuchi Gen’s true nature. It will definitely be an utterly confused war of communal slaughter.

>Those readers who thought Fate/stay night “should have more than blood, tears and tragic endings”, this is for you! This is the true ‘Heaven’s Feel’, with the battle for survival as its essence!

>> No.37279240

>>37279178
He always wanks his subcontractors

>> No.37279284

>>37279240
Nasu also approached Gen to get on the writing staff for F/ha, so that turned into F/z

Only Americans consider F/z to be better than F/sn

>> No.37279342

I love my wife Arc very much.

>> No.37279368

>>37279173
he didn't even keep the ciel rape scene lmao
delusional.

>> No.37279398

>>37279368
I mean yeah there's not really going to be any rape so it's kind of a matter of perspective. I think most of the bad ends are edgier/scarier though. Like that Noel one is more disturbing than anything in the original if you ask me.

>> No.37279413

>>37279178
>This is the true ‘Heaven’s Feel’, with the battle for survival as its essence!
>これが生存競争を本質とする、正しい「聖杯戦争」です!
?

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>> No.37279435

>>37279413
Are all the Fate translations that inaccurate?

>> No.37279436

>>37279368
What, the Arc route scene? That's pretty much the same as the manga except he doesn't say rape explicitly

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>> No.37279468
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>> No.37279488

>>37279095
Was talking about the UBW anime in comparison to Zero since UBW had moments and an episode or two of SoL high school stuff that probably out off audiences that want “mature” anime and are not fans of high school anime. HF is more like Zero so that’s a good point.

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>>37278952
Has to be this one.

>> No.37279512

>>37279109
TsukiR is probably the most edgy thing he’s written in a longtime. Noel’s scenes alone are some of his edgiest things that he’s ever written.

>> No.37279525

>>37279368
He says that he’ll mess her up in a suggestive way so it’s easy to interpret that scene in a rapey way.

>> No.37279652

>>37279503
Literal spaghetti moment

>> No.37279699

>>37279512
Noel tips the edge balance out by herself

>> No.37279769

>>37279652
Need some Eminem-Shiki spaghetti memes.

>> No.37279781

>>37278952
I still don't understand that. What happened? Was it SHIKI fucking his mind? I don't recall the Nanayas being rapists...

>> No.37279803

>>37279781
Assuming my memory is correct, that's from Akiha's route so it's just his Nanaya blood reacting to Akiha's oni blood.

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Visionary

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>>37279803
Yeah, it's from Akiha's route, but it's so confusing. I think it's the only time that Shiki had raping urges without Roa/SHIKI fucking up his mind. That's why I thought that maybe SHIKI did something, but it was probably just his Nanaya blood.

>> No.37279994

>>37279781
It’s his Nanaya blood going crazy due to oni blood. Nanaya says some creepy stuff in Melty to Akiha and Miyako but this went a bit far. Guess it makes sense since the Nanaya love to fuck their siblings.

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She has no style, she has no grace

>> No.37280661

>>37280312
she has a funny face.

>> No.37280674
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>>37280661

>> No.37280727
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This is neat. https://twitter.com/ufotable/status/1458752586102685696/photo/1

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I don't want to admit it.
But it seems I like Saiki Goto.

>> No.37281082

>>37281047
I wonder what the first line actually means. And what's he planning on doing after killing Shiki? Why was it so important to stop Shiki snooping around?

>> No.37281106
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>>37281047
he's gonna be the Kirei of Red Garden, trust the plan.

>> No.37281351

>>37281047
always wondered how Akiha would've reacted to this if she knew who did it

>> No.37281478

>>37281351
honestly, one of the things i'm most looking forward to for red garden is goto's interactions with the rest of the cast

>> No.37281765

>>37281351
good question, what's the next step here? how does he intend to get away with it?

>> No.37282036

Someone, post that gif or webm from the second HF movie showing Archer throwing Shirou like a piece of garbage and then carefully placing Illya on the ground, please. I can't find it.

>> No.37282175

>>37276136
>name field
>reused op image
sad

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>>37280312
>>37280661
>>37280674
So many rare Aoko's.
Damn nips and their rare merchandise.

>> No.37282224

>>37282218
what's this?

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>> No.37282531
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It turns out I'm even more dense than Shirou. I don't understand what happened.

>> No.37282543

>>37282531
Sakura could see the chemistry of the both of them chilling that'll eventually lead to fucking by shirou and rider so like the pest she is she interrupts.

>> No.37282551 [DELETED] 
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We Touhou now?

>> No.37282555

>>37282543
But Rider herself helped Sakura by asking Shirou to leave, for today.

>> No.37282573

>>37282555
yeah it's just Sakura misunderstanding the situation that Rider and Shirou are getting closer but it's nothing. Rider also wants Shirou together with Sakura so she acts like a wingman for Sakura.

>> No.37282576

>>37282551
I hate Touhou so fucking much

>> No.37282585

>>37282576
Why? I don't play the games but the music is pretty cool desu.

>> No.37282618
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>>37282576
better picture for the FSN Touhou Tiger Meat thing

>> No.37282638

>>37282576
Agreed, but this is /jp/, the only board where it does belong.
Letting it out of /jp/ due to muh idol/vt shit is a joke.
It should not be elsewhere, especially /a/ or /v/.

>> No.37282715

>>37282573
Oh, now I understand. Thanks.

>> No.37282772

>>37282715
no problem, Shirou.

>> No.37282805
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Based trad Saber.

>> No.37282813

>>37282805
acting like a king for once.

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>> No.37282897
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The 2006 anime made me appreciate Taiga more.

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>>37282897
Taiga is a miracle of the universe.

>> No.37283322

>>37282224
A promotional poster.

>> No.37283507 [DELETED] 

I can't believe I'm at 20% of completition already.

>> No.37283523

I can't believe I'm at 20% of completion already.

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>>37282888
need ciel gf so fucking badly

>> No.37283879

>>37283579
Play TsukihimeRE. Her route was flawless. Then be sad you will never have a senpai this good.

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>>37283879
i cant read moon runes

>> No.37284164

>>37284088
At least you can enjoy the fanart!

>> No.37284181

>>37282897
I just appreciate her never being sexualized by Shirou like a typical eroge VN would make an older sister. She feels like a realistic older sister that loves Shirou and wants what's best for him. Props to Nasu for making a unique character in Taiga in these kinds of VN's.

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>>37284164
you got that right

>> No.37284205

>>37284088
seeing the old art makes me realize how different she is to her remake self. Wonder how old Cielfags feel about the rise in popularity of Ciel now with her remake look and personality.

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>>37284205
they tweaked her a lot and made her softer overall but I still feel like she's got the same core stuff under all that. there isn't a post tsukihime meta "shit, ciel is unpopular" joke vibe right now with new ciel so that's missing

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>>37283879
>Her route was flawless.

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>> No.37284679

>>37284531
It was indeed amazing.

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>> No.37284798

i want ciel to softdom me

>> No.37284854
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>>37284451
yeah, it's nice to see so much love and new fan art for Ciel after being unpopular for so long. The age of Ciel is upon us and I welcome it since I'm more attracted to remake Ciel in her casual clothes. I'll still miss how mature and cool the old Ciel was in her combat mode.

>> No.37284870

>>37284854
Shiki got best senpai-sensei.

>> No.37284875

>>37284205
What >>37284451 said. They made her softer around the edges and gave her actual SOL moments to be openly cute/display actual chemistry with Shiki in, Shiki's written to be much more in tune with her too when in the OG he seemed to want her in his life for practically no reason. At her core she's still perpetually haunted by guilt, a thorough "do as I say but not as I do" hypocrite, cares more about others than herself, self-deprecating and self-sacrificing, and doesn't hold grudges towards others no matter how deeply they wronged her.

She got an actual character arc in TsukiRe and Noel is a perfect/10 addition. While I personally am a bit sad that she doesn't have her cold and murderous sprite faces from OG/MB anymore, I don't think anything in TsukiRe contradicts what she was in the OG, only rounded her out better and gave her quirks more spotlight. So in the end I'm simply happy we're getting so much nice new fanart, JP artists/OG Cielfags tweeting their impressions was a lot of fun to read too the first two weeks. Pretty sure most of us are just glad we're finally eating, and it's been a feast

>> No.37284890

>>37284679
lol

>> No.37284906
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will you be able to survive another 10 years of waiting for the remake far side routes and the english translation?

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>>37284906
yeah probably

>> No.37284928

>>37284854
A shame her remake battle dress is irredeemably shit.

>> No.37284941

>>37284854
That's still the best she has ever looked.
If only the new battle outfits weren't so trash and derivative from what Takeuchi has done before.
And the coomer baiting is so blatant.

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>>37284890

>> No.37285100

>>37284906
You can always use that time to just get good since it will never be translated.

>> No.37285205
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>>37284875
Great post Cielbro. I'm starting to convert to the church of Ciel with all of these posts and the fanart. It's been wonderful.

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>>37284941
what's so bad about the new combat design? I don't hate. Guess you're talking about the white combat armor she wears?

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>>37285205
Arcfags and Cielfags. Are you also Shikifags like the girls?

>> No.37285287

>>37285237
That is still a downgrade for a few reasons, though Koyama's weapon designs are probably an upgrade.
It may have to do with the whole age retcon shit, as she looks less mature that before, the skin cutouts are really dumb.
The eyes should be turquoise like before and she should have parted bangs instead of just pasting the same middle bangs as 80% of his other designs.
And for Takeuchi's lineart, Takao's simpler, more vibrant colouration is simply better.

>> No.37285327

>>37285247
I do think he's a wonderful boy, yes.

>> No.37285334

>>37285247
he's a hagchad so yes he's great

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>>37285247
I assume most posting on here like Shiki. I really loved his remake self and I like how introspective he is in KT while walking around town. I can relate to his lazy attitude and wanting to sunbathe all day doing nothing.

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>>37284906
I'll wait as long as I have to for more of my queen.

>> No.37285430

>>37285351
dumb

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>>37285351
based spiderbro

>> No.37285458

>>37285351
Genius.

>> No.37286043
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CHADsu wins again

>> No.37286129

how do i git gud in melty

>> No.37286255

>>37286129
Go copied other people's combos.

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>>37285351
I want to stab her tits and rip her implants out. That'll teach her to speak like a normal human being

>> No.37286681

>>37286129
Play Kouma

>> No.37286689

>>37286043
Fuck off Nasu Jesus Christ.

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>> No.37287597

https://twitter.com/Harukey8/status/1459111032945733639?t=PCsLWGrvB5CqipunnmHReA&s=19

>> No.37287912

>>37286043
Jesus Christ what the fuck is Nasu's problem?
Why the fuck is he so obsessed with this spelling?
Why the fuck has no fucking one he knows told him he's being fucking retarded?

>> No.37287955

>>37287912
Can someone explain what this is about? I always assumed it's just horrible engrish but is there a story behind this autism?

>> No.37287962

>>37286129
watch Leo's C-warc and apply his movement/conditioning in Type Lumina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87xlCdSPU10

>> No.37287974

https://twitter.com/2323Astronomy/status/1458442929672843278

Cute analog Shiki/Arc stuff here.

>> No.37288161

>>37286043
Was it changed IG or only on the website?

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>> No.37288250

>>37286043
Nasu-sama, I kneel...

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Bless Ciel.

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>> No.37288370

>>37277843
God I wish I were Shirou.

>> No.37288372
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>> No.37288530

>>37286043
The correct spelling.

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>>37288161
Both

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>> No.37289364

>>37286043
Why is he so retarded about this

>> No.37289447

Altria is such a retarded name though.

>> No.37289549

>>37286043
She will forever just be Saber to me

>> No.37289559

>>37286043
I can't wait to read Alqueid's route in the Tsukihime Remake!

>> No.37289737

Any hope for Tsukihime doujins in Comiket 99?

>> No.37289993 [SPOILER] 
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>>37289549
Yes this is Saber

>> No.37290008

>>37289993
Ah yes, althur

>> No.37290013 [SPOILER] 
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I always thought that this idea was original to the Unlimited Blade Works anime.

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>> No.37290051 [SPOILER] 
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I did not know that Issei had a brother.

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>> No.37290082
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>>37290069

>> No.37290098
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>> No.37290126
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>> No.37290146
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>>37290126

>> No.37290158

>>37290069
>>37290082
>>37290098
I don't get it

>> No.37290169
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I feel bad for Saber.

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>> No.37290218
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>>37284205
>>37284451
Nasu always win

>> No.37290413

Remake Ciel killed 5 member of 27DAA (Vlov,Be ze,Chromeclay,Forest,Roa)
Yo what's wrong with remake 27DAA?
They're pathetic

>> No.37290427

>>37290413
Fuck off gook.

>> No.37290429

>>37290378
>Nero is still in the poll
bros...

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>>37290429
>>37290429
Nakata Jouji voice
Looks very cool
Why not

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She lost me.

>> No.37290512

>>37290082
based Illya

>> No.37290531

>>37290378
Makihisabros..

>> No.37290534

>>37290481
fuck off

>> No.37290599

>>37290413
Go away gook, this was a good thread

>> No.37290601

>>37290481
Such a fun scene. Love this sprite.

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Lancer always die

>> No.37290677

Old Ciel design was better though. NuRoute is better, that I must admit.

>> No.37290686

>>37290378
>brand new route with all the good stuff
>still can't surpass arcueid
cielbros... i thought that was supposed to be our time of glory?

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>>37290686
Arc will be first literally forever. No one cares.

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37290686
No one is shocked by that lmao. Arc will always be number 1. If you don't see Ciel shooting up to number 2 and having more appreciation compared to before as something great then whatever

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>> No.37291086

>>37290761
Why not
She's monster hunter

>> No.37291096
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Sudo >>>>>>>>>> Takeuchi
Change my mind

>> No.37291437
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Issei being mentioned along Saber, Rin, and Sakura caught me off guard.

>> No.37291739
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Why do DI fags love comparing it to fate? Is it even good or just shitposting?

>> No.37291822

>>37290042
I wish that was me

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>>37291739
Both are considered the best chuuni VNs so it's really no wonder why people compare them.
Also Dies Irae takes a lot of elements from Fate and Tsukihime, it's clear they were one of the main inspirations of Masada when writing it.
Also there used to be a lot of shitposting in both /jp/ and /vg/ around the time Dies Irae was translated because it was also getting an anime and a gacha, so everyone was memeing it was the underdog to Fate's endless success. Sadly (or not) it failed in almost every single front and the company behind it died.
It's way more chuuni and over the top than any Nasu work. Also is longer and I'd say the pacing can get kinda shitty, especially in the first half. But it's still pretty damn good, one of the best VNs out there.
Give it a try if you're feeling extra chuuni and/or nazi.

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4games Nasu Interview

Nasu: Ciel is extremely gifted at Magecraft, having by sheer random chance mutated to be born with very powerful magic circuits. It is stated that if the average magi's mana generation was 20, then Ciel's is 5000. Ciel has over twice the amount of magical energy than Clock Tower's record holder McDonell Trambellio Elrod, even if his magical energy regeneration is unparalleled.

Calvaria Galgalim: Calvaria's Star Ciel's magic

It takes 3 minutes to deploy which is the spell's main disadvantage, it is on the same level as Excalibur, though its usage is very different

Excalibur = Calvaria's Star

It's ridiculous

powercreep

>> No.37292312

>>37292290
Can't wait for her to job to Satsuki.

>> No.37292433

>>37292290
my wife is a monster!

>> No.37292529

>>37292290
Is this the gook?

>> No.37292577

>>37292529
Yeah, just ignore him, he'll go away pretty fast. He just makes the same esl posts over and over

>> No.37292611
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I wish I could draw as well as Hungry clicker

>> No.37292633

>>37292611
Kiritsugu is literally me

>> No.37292641

>>37292611
Practice anon. One day you'll be able to draw Kiritsugu any format you like.

>> No.37292705
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Wake up anon, it's homo friday!

>> No.37293339

>>37291991
>>37292001
my wife!

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My wife

>> No.37293498

>>37286043
>this autistic about the name in video games
>but refuses to translate any VNs

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>> No.37293856

>>37293498
good, eops are subhumans.

>> No.37294096

>>37293498
He can't stop me from calling her Artoria forever

>> No.37294163

Did Nasu ever write any interact between Shiki and Shirou?
Were any of the crossovers written by him?

>> No.37294178

>>37294163
Aside from that one interview, no.
Carnival Phantasm is the closest thing there is.

>> No.37294183

>>37294163
Other than Carnival? I don't think so. In fact the only thing he's really said iirc is that Shiki and Shirou wouldn't get along.

>> No.37294282

>>37294163
nah, and I don't believe he worked on Carnival or Take Moon so nope.

>> No.37294297

>>37290761
Ciel only shot up to no. 2 because TsukiRe is Near Side only.

>> No.37294299

>>37292611
>>37292641
I will become these threads drawfag one day.

>> No.37294326

>>37294297
And who cares, imagine letting other people influence what you like or dictate what you can't like. Imagine thinking the act of liking fictional jpegs is some zero sum competition

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what the cat doin

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>>37294376
throwin' phones

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>> No.37294618

>>37294401
Was Mio salty that Shiki was flirting with Ciel?

>> No.37294626

>>37294618
well she threw her phone at him when he was acting like a pervert with talking about Ciel's legs and skirt in the train so nah.

>> No.37294656

>>37294626
And no Mio route? What the fuck Nasu. Noel and Mio need the Shiki.

>> No.37294660

>>37294618
It seems like she just thought they were being cringe and loud. She doesn't turn up much for Ciel route now that I think about it

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>>37286043
What went wrong with nu-melty?

>> No.37294688

>>37292312
Satsuki's RM doesn't affect humans so it's likely Arc will job to her while Shiki BTFOs Ciel.

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>>37292705

>> No.37294738

>>37294681
Shield mechanic, too automatic, roster and arcade stories hamstrung by lore/spoiler autism

>> No.37294746

>>37294688
Shiki going to be so broken by the end of remake. And that's before he starts hunting ancestors afterwards kek. He hasn't even started doing his Nanaya-jutsu very much.

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>>37294681
shields, the limited roster of characters, lore autism, first game version balance syndrome and saber. the game's still fun but if you wanna play real melty just play aacc

>> No.37294880

>>37294746
Probably not escalating much past what we've already seen. There isn't really anywhere to go.
>>37294842
>first game version balance syndrome
This is probably the most balanced version 1 of a fighting game released in the last decade and a half, objectively speaking.

>> No.37294894

>>37294681
shield, autocombo, and the story. And the PC version isn't great. It's still a fun game and I had a good time with it, but for the first game in a new fighting game series it's solid.

>> No.37294902

>>37294894
What's wrong with the PC version?

>> No.37294921

>>37294902
not a big PC guy, but it was pretty trashy on launch with it crashing constantly and the general roleplay wasn't great. Ranking and general online wasn't stable for the first couple of days. It's gotten better, but the netplay still isn't as good as other fighting games like Strive.

>> No.37294926

>>37294880
I guess he's already super broken in remake to be fair. I can't wait to see Nanaya shit though. Like wall/ceiling stepping. I hope Nasu is madlad enough to have him use KN and tech in a scene.

>> No.37294948

>>37294326
stop coping goddamn

>> No.37294972

>>37294948
Not that guy but Tsukibros typically aren't autistic enough to give a shit about waifuwars. They are all great.

>> No.37294981

>>37294746
he already entered a different dimension and turned into a bolt of lightning to defeat ArcuRei that's threatening to glass the planet. cant go much higher than that.

remember when Arc split the worlds because big explosive things are supposed to happen in Fate while Tsuki is supposed to be more reserved?

>> No.37294982

>>37294948
stop trying to bait. no one cares. enjoy your girl

>> No.37294984

>>37294972
This is the kind of crap we're in for when Ufotable adapts it

>> No.37295020

>>37294981
That's why I said he's already busted. But they could do some conceptual shit or technique stuff. Though I'm not sure how you get more overtuned than killing multiple objects over a distance. Maybe he will literally fight Nero in the future and he'll have to do that flame death thing he did to Roa on 666 different points in one instant.

>> No.37295029

>>37294984
Easy to ignore people who never played the source lol.

>> No.37295042

>>37295029
more like they should hopefully stay contained to /a/

>> No.37295050

>>37294972
Ciel vs. Arc is the new waifu war.

>> No.37295065

>>37295050
It's just that one autist whose salty and insists Nasu is terribad because the story didn't play out exactly as he wanted.

>> No.37295076

>>37295065
They're obviously upset that they have to wait for Arcs other ending.

>> No.37295087
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>>37295050
Not really trying to fight it though. Both of them are cool

>> No.37295105

>>37295050
I haven't seen anyone fighting over the two heroines much.

>> No.37295130

>>37295050
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new
they sure fight in OG and TsukiR but arcfags and cielfags are chill with each other in /tmg/, too busy posting their respective "my wife" in case you haven't noticed, bait-kun

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>> No.37295164

>>37295148
god i wish that was me

>> No.37295166

>>37295130
did you miss the shit flinging over the poll

>> No.37295172

>>37295076
I don't even know why though? I loved Ciels route. I thought Arcs was fabulous and a beautiful refined version of Tsukihime already. Her true route is probably going to be amazingballs. I honestly doubt we'll even see her full story with Shiki even covered in her true route since Tsukihime 2 will probably happen someday and there is still stuff they will have saved for it. Probably the entire CM lore and the promise Shiki made to Arcueid to save her.

>> No.37295184

>>37295087
It's a cruel angel's thesis.

>> No.37295189

>>37295166
You're taking shitposting too seriously

>> No.37295206
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Everyone knows Noel is best girl anyway.

>> No.37295210
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Everyone knows Dr. Arach is best girl anyway.

>> No.37295221
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>> No.37295230

>>37295221
seeing old powered ciel just makes me hate nu-ciel all the more. what a massive downgrade

also giant foot lmao.

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>> No.37295254

>>37295230
She used to be an ugly bitch and now she is not.

>> No.37295256
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Would people be salty if Nasu released a route on christmas and instead of it being Arcueid(her birthday is dec 25) it's Noel because hey, autistic naming?

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>> No.37295270

>>37295254
>generic battle dress is pretty while doujin soul tattoo dress is ugly
how new?

>> No.37295274

>>37295166
>shit flinging
like no one caring in this very thread? that poll's been brought back up with the same pitiful bait pretext and ignored the same way every time, as it should be. the nero part is always a fun reminder, though

>>37295256
no one would be salty at more TsukiRe. it's what a good chunk of us are here for.

>> No.37295281

>>37295270
The tattoos were ugly and shit. How blind?

>> No.37295285
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>> No.37295330
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>>37295281

Not the same anon but I think you could make a reasonable case that her melty design is her best. The coloring is just better and whether or not you like Tats, the contrast is pretty nice here. I also like the shade of her eyes better in OG. The bangs are give or take for me. I think NuCiel typically looks better than OG ciel but this image is her peak easily.

>> No.37295351
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>>37295330
This is kind of too sedated and the dress part is a downgrade imo.

>> No.37295389

NuCielfags have bad test when it comes to clothes tbqh

>> No.37295411

>>37295351
yeah, if they were gonna replace that tats than at least have her magic circuits light up a bit. It only really happens here which is a shame. Anyone have a pic of it? Can't find it.

>> No.37295412

>>37295330
>>37295351
Ciel would look better with broad shoulders.

>> No.37295421

>>37295389
Basically I think Senpai NuCiel + NunNuCiel is > OG Senpai or Nun Ciel but OG Powered Ciel > Powered NuCiel.

>> No.37295425
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>>37295351
Nah Upgrade
She's monster hunter

>> No.37295430
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>>37295411
This or something similar?

>> No.37295439

>>37295425
How can you make such a good base 7th design but have it turn into total autism?

>> No.37295448

>>37295430
yeah that, it'd be cool if her circuits were wings or were a reference to her old tats. Would've made both camps happy.

>> No.37295453

>>37295412
but remake she's physically 12 years old

>> No.37295457

>>37295453
I don't think they've demonstrated remotely caring about that.

>> No.37295474

>>37295448
Indeed. I'm surprised there wasn't a sequence of either exactly that or her applying magic war paint to fight Arc.

>> No.37295477

>>37295439
Overreaction to Ciel's former unpopularity.

>> No.37295480

Urobuchi did nothing wrong.

>> No.37295483
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>>37295439
Upgrade 7th design

>> No.37295484

>>37295453
for a 12 year old she looks damn good

>> No.37295486

>>37295453
>she's physically 12 years old
She's physically 18. Learn to read between the lines.

>> No.37295488

>>37295480
He encouraged more Fate spinoffs.

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>>37295483

>> No.37295493

>>37295474
guess Takeuchi doesn't like the tats now? They don't look great, but I would've liked a simple updated design to them.

>> No.37295498

>>37295486
I Say Remake Ciel bruh

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>>37295492
>>37295483

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>>37295501
>>37295492
>>37295483

>> No.37295508

>>37295330
She doesn't even have an ahoge. It sucks.

>> No.37295516

>>37295493
They're trying to make the franchise and designs more mainstream since Ciel is heading to the slot machine soon. The average gachacuck would be turned off by tattoos even if they're really chuuni.

>> No.37295518
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>>37295507
>>37295501
>>37295492
>>37295483
Better than metal gear solid heavy weapons

>> No.37295524

>>37295518
I think Seven is actually cool in RE. It fits some hardass vampire slayer. They coulda just given her a generic fucking servant weapon and called it a day.

>> No.37295525

why do you guys call chuuni everything

>> No.37295526
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>>37295508
Remake CIel doesn't have ahoge

>> No.37295533

>>37295501
these swords are cool now since Ciel's Last Arc animation with these swords is rad as fuck. It split apart like a chain sword from Bleach with Renji.

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>> No.37295536
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>> No.37295547
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>>37295533
Too big

>> No.37295558

>>37295526
Yeah she does.

>> No.37295559

>>37295516
Didn't they design her before Gacha was even a thought? I doubt they are more focused on a potential minor collab than they are about longterm franchise development given they seemingly want Church shit/vampires/Tsuki to be more pronounced going forward.

>> No.37295568

Fuck off gook.

>> No.37295569

>>37295533
They did in the VN too.

>> No.37295572

>>37295547
yeah they look stupid but they animate cool in melty blood type lumina. It'll look rad when she's added as a character there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQEyMppD7s&ab_channel=Dayheyzeus

>> No.37295574
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Ciel became a monster hunter
but still way weaker than this real monster

>> No.37295593
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>>37295572
Nu Ciel's probelm is not a design
Nu design is good imo
Probelm is her stupid soulles voice acting (VA: Kaede Hondo)

https://youtu.be/89aV34dCv6I?t=8

>> No.37295669

>>37295256
I want my Noel choices to change more than 2 seconds of dialogue a year later down the route. That's so weird in the first place.

>> No.37295683

>>37295559
They never showed her Powered form in the original 2012 preview.

>> No.37295714

>>37295593
Ciel was actually at her best in the anime oddly enough

>> No.37295740

>>37295574
oh no she's hot

>> No.37295787

>>37295714
The what, now?

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>>37295714
You miss this?

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>>37295787

>> No.37295798
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>>37295714
>>37295791

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>>37295740
Always

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>>37295791
I was talking about the voice acting but her design looked better than in Takeuchi's style too actually

>> No.37295823

>>37295822
how can someone have not one but two objectively wrong opinions?

>> No.37295857
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>>37295822
Any opinion about this?

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>>37295857

>> No.37295905

>>37295857
>Takeuchi is actually good
w-w-w-what the fuck bros?

>> No.37295910

>>37295683
Because they show everything as soon as they make it, right? The premise that it's even relevant to the gacha is ridiculous.

>> No.37295917

>>37295857
What is this supposed to show?

>> No.37295922
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37295922

stop indulging the gook you dweebs
>>37295857
The dead on shot is fine but it looks a derpy on some characters. I think all of Shiki's look pretty good. Makes you realize how rare it is to not have the character offset at all but it's very effective when it actually works

>> No.37295973

ciel = shit

>> No.37295975

Since when was /tmg/ a schizo thread?

>> No.37295987

Ciel poops shit.

>> No.37295991

CIEL IS AWESOME I LOVE HER

>> No.37296002
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>>37295822
Ufotable >>> JC

>> No.37296011

>>37295975
since always, newfag

>> No.37296034
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>>37295987
>>37295973
>Second most popular character in remake

>> No.37296059

>>37296011
I don't recall any regular boogeymen before the remake came out.

>> No.37296128

>>37295910
It's the only explanation that makes sense beyond "Nasu and Takeuchi are fucking retarded" which is the usual explanation for all the Remake's fuckery.

>> No.37296129

>>37296002
Animation =/= character design
Not him but I also like the way Ciel and Arc look in the anime as far as design goes
>>37295987
Ciel poops curry

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>>37296034
>Gets a massive portion of the remake dedicated to her
>Still can't beat Arc

>> No.37296151
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>>37296132
Because this air head is symbol of Tsukihime (Moon Princess)

>> No.37296158
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I found fantastic art

>> No.37296159
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>>37295975
It's just the gook and that one autist, I think. One schizo schizing about ciel good, the other schizing about ciel bad.
I just want to post Noel for goodness sake!

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>>37296132
once the second part comes out Ceil will drop even lower probably. This is her peak and she still can't touch Arc.

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>>37296159
How old are they
they're neighborhood friend you know

>> No.37296187
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>>37296161
Don't worry Ciel will crush Arach

>> No.37296195

>>37296128
It makes less sense than them just not liking the aesthetic anymore or in your words, being dumbfucks. Or biased. I can't imagine something so inconsequential came up as a point of concern. They aren't nearly as lewd for me to believe that.

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>heh what do you mean there's no ship war? can't you see me trying to incite it with the 2nd lowest iq person on this thread, a literal ESL? He's biting
kill yourself

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>>37296159
Post Noel
OK

>> No.37296204

>>37296171
27 and 25. noel is older.

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>>37296202

>> No.37296227
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>>37296202

>> No.37296228
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>>37296214
>>37296204
Why she followed Ciel?
Ciel killed her mom and dad

>> No.37296235
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>>37296202
>>37296214
>>37296227

>> No.37296237

>>37296129
>Ciel poops curry
Speaking of which it's been a long time since that pasta got posted

>> No.37296252

>>37296228
Because she still respected her as a vampire slayer and monster. It was only after she began to throw away that and love Shiki that Noel felt like she was being betrayed and Ciel was becoming human.

>> No.37296262

>>37296195
It's not a lewd thing, is a waifu thing. Tattoos are a harder sell to the average JPG collector but really the gacha excuse is just me trying to justify dumb changes with a reason beyond them being retarded.

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>>37292290
Hanja : the burial agency you say? ME?
The likes of me can't even reach one step of them.
No I can't have you even put me on the same level as them
Each one of them has a cataclysm

THEY SHALL DESTROY
WITH GOD'S POWER ANY
EVIL THAT INVADES
GOD'S DOMAIN.

THAT Is THEIR
DOMAIN As THE
PINNACLE OF AGENTS

COMPARING THEM TO
THE LIKES OF ME Is
NOTHING BUT AN
INSULT!!!!!!!!!!
Guys Fate/SF Hansa was right

>> No.37296307

>>37296262
>Tattoos are a harder sell to the average JPG collector
Are they really? Aren't there any characters with tattoos in FGO?

>> No.37296322

>>37296307
Angra mainyu Giglamesh

>> No.37296324

>>37296262
I can see the 'waifu' thing I guess. Though rather than having anything to do with the gacha I just associate it with them revamping the designs for future works. Seemed like they are planning for like 10 years of Tsukihime shit. Presumably more than just TsukiRE... though at the pace they are going maybe TsukiRE will literally take 10 years. Though I guess Tsuki 2 has to come down the pipe eventually too. And I could imagine a Prequel action game involving Ciel hunting the 3 DAA.

>> No.37296326

>>37296237
I don't know what pasta you're talking about but please do tell

>> No.37296331

>>37296307
Coomers only like womb tattoos.

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>>37296262
https://youtu.be/lzjwc6uo6rE?t=109

Japs think tattoo is for scumbag idiots

>> No.37296348

>>37296326
>>/jp/?offset=0&ghost=yes&task=search&search_text=Making%20Curry%20must%20be%20hard%20work

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>>37296326
Jc staff Tsukihime aniamaion

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>>37296348
I really hate this.

>> No.37296403

>peak gook hours
aight cielbros Imma head out. Arcbros and Noelbros you guys have a good and comfy weekend too

>> No.37296436

>>37296403
have a good one cielbro

>> No.37296450
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37296450

Melty blood boss rush

@Noel:
It's all over now?
What? Really?
I feel like something is wrong, something is missing...
Since this is my story, the villain of the last chapter should be...
//This is where she finally remembers Ciel.

@Noel:
I haven't seen her anywhere!
Even if I'm the main character of this word,
we can't have my story without her!
None of this had any point!

@Student:
So, what are you trying to say here?

@Noel:
That this is all fake!
Even if my life here is happier than in the real world,
and I got a great boyfriend in you!

Something is wrong!
This is not my world!
I didn't even put any work into earning my heroine spot, to begin with!

Oh, no, no, I do want to be a heroine!
But that's a different matter!!

@Student:
You're not making much sense.
I can't see what you're getting at.

@Noel:
It's a matter of feeling,
no logic or interest involved!
We're breaking up!!

Umm...
Noel love Ciel?

>> No.37296470

>>37296450
Nah, she got Nanaya. It's just that her character arc needs Ciel or it's like faking your own resolution and getting a happiness you didn't really earn. Presumably Ciel would play some kind of spiritual and thematic foil like Noel played for her though ending probably without anyone dead.

>> No.37296479

So I read SE.RA.PH. Being told it was peak FGO romance and one of the best standalone stories.
Anyone else walk away from this powerpoint wondering where the romance was? You could maybe reach for a onesided crush(??). Also the climax with Melt being fired into Kiara was kind of... is this really what passes for KINO?

>> No.37296577

>>37296479
Well what did you expect from FGOshit none of the shit gachaniggers screech about being good is any good. It's just marginally better than what came before, gachaniggers are just desperate to justify to themselves the time and money they waste on this garbage.

>> No.37296578

>>37284906
You can learn moonrunes in two years to be able to read, but sure, wit 10 years.

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Everyone really love and praise remake normal ending
but they don't like true ending yo

>> No.37296653

>>37296602
One of the guys in your pic seems to be completely happy with the True end though and the VN as a whole.
Everyone I have spoken to that I know has read it seems to have loved the remake in it's entirety. People find the True Ending super fucking KINO. It's such a nice ending after the Normal end... but everyone absolutely thinks the Normal ending is amazing too since it's so poignant and sets up such an awesome future scenario in the epilogue.

>> No.37296664

>>37296653
Don't reply to the gook.

>> No.37296680

>>37296653
My dick is hard for Church Shiki wandering around the European countryside as the Church's incarnation of death. A rumor whispered fearfully among the dead as their immortal patriarchs vanish one after the other.

>> No.37296696

>>37296479
It's Melt's story though. It's probably the best part of FGO. A waste of time if you haven't played CCC though.

>> No.37296715

>>37296696
If you're referring to the comment of Melt being fired into Kiara being cheesy, yes I get that it had to be her since she's the focus. I just thought the whole thing was cringe and not very good. The best part f that sequence was actually Tristan.

>> No.37296762
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Kagetsu Tohya
She remains as a supportive character, but she is the protagonist of the side story A Story for the Evening, which is the continuation of Akiha's True Ending in Tsukihime. Tsukasa Shijyou, a classmate of Akiha, placed a curse on her due to an urban legend, but is afraid she will find out, and attempts to kill Akiha by knocking her off two stories from the roof. Akiha survives due to her super-human abilities and Tsukasa comes in the night to kill her with a knife, but Akiha yet again survives and knocks out Tsukasa. After resolving the mystery, Akiha receives a letter from Ciel, that informs that she saved Shiki from death and that he would return by the end of the year.


Nasu will add this epilogue in far side remake Akiha route

>> No.37296769

>>37295857
didn't people say Koyama drew these CGs?

>> No.37296774

>>37296715
Nah I meant that the focus is on Melt's love rather than trying to depict a romance or whatever. Maybe you went in expecting something else.
The climax is Melt's feelings vs Kiara's so I thought that was done well thematically. And Melt being launched accompanied with the 'flying with broken wings' thing gets to me. If you though it was cringe though there's probably nothing I can say to change your mind.
I think it's a particularly good event because Nasu basically just wrote a side story for CCC and all the FGO elements are basically superficial.

>> No.37296780

>>37296762
I just want to see Akira stay over for a slumber party and meet her nii-san.

>> No.37296781
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>>37296769
No
this is Koyama's art style

>> No.37296782

>>37296769
How are you even here if you can't recognise that as Takeuchi's art?

>> No.37296784

>>37296602
Is Ciel route that good that everyone is praising the shit out of it as the best vn they ever read?

>> No.37296793

>>37296762
I love this story. Nasu should write more shoujo-type stuff.

>> No.37296795

>>37296780
But Nasu already add Kagetsu Tohya stuff in Tsukihime rermake (Ex. Roa Ciel)

>> No.37296798

>>37296774
I get the themes, but yeah I did go in expecting an actual romance and instead it's more that conceptual 'love' that the characters represent rather than anything romantic. False advertisment to say the least.

>> No.37296801

>>37296795
And?

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>>37296784
Why not
impressive battle scene and new heavy weapons, well made side characters,. emotional ending, Main girl's tragic past, the strongest villain
it's good

>> No.37296811

>>37296214
someone needs to make a doujin of these two someday.

>> No.37296812

>>37296801
>>37296762
Nasu will add this epilogue in far side remake Akiha route, 99%

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>>37296811
Here

>> No.37296818

>>37296816
noel hatefucking ciel!

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>>37296811
>>37296816
They already made it

>> No.37296827 [DELETED] 

>>37296810
Not, it's pretty whatever desu.

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>>37296816
>>37296818
>>37296819

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>>37296832
>>37296816
this manga is so emotional

>> No.37296840

>>37296782
I remember complimenting Takeuchi's art in TsukiR on here for only people to correct me in saying that Koyama did most of the work so I assume anything good is done by him instead of Takeuchi. The noses also don't look like Takeuchi noses.

>> No.37296850

>>37296784
Nah, it's not imo. And it introduced powerlevel creep as well, with Ciel being 20 stronger than 99% of all the Magi for no reason, it has a lot of questionable pieces.

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>>37296839
>>37296819
>>37296832

>> No.37296866

>>37296798
It's hard to write a romance with the nothing character that is Guda. At least Hakuno had internal narration to make them more of a character.

>> No.37296871

>>37296850
>Ciel being 20 stronger than 99% of all the Magi for no reason
How is that new?

>> No.37296883

>>37296840
They're being ironic. Koyama's credited for touching up the art, which he's done ever since he joined TM.

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>>37296850
Ciel is burial agency
you idiot
she elite executor

Don't mess with my boy Hanja

>> No.37296897

>>37296871
How is that even a problem, rather?

>> No.37296905

>>37296850
Ciel is one the strongest priest in holy church,
one of the biggest group in Nasuverse

>> No.37296916

>>37296885
Churchniggas are so cool. Almost every fucking one.

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>>37296916
>>37296885
Sugata Sunao
She's trained under Ciel to become an Executor.

Why didn't Ciel bring her in undercover mission.
I think she's way stronger than Noel

>> No.37296994

>>37296850
It comprises seven militants called 'executors' after their intended role to "execute the Lord's teachings as His proxy". Its extraterritoriality within the Church precludes the attainment of power and in return affords it freedom from authority. A walking armoury; a security force consisting of a mere handful of people. They are in charge of exterminating the "inhuman things" that never show themselves, which the Church condemned as heresies — vampires.[1] When it comes to the Executors of the Burial Agency, they will stop at nothing if it's to apprehend a Dead Apostle, even having a whole town disappear from the map. They have the authority where whatever they do is allowed if their opponent is a vampire, and that includes the city targeted by the Dead Apostle: wether humans still live there or not, if it's an already defiled land, they will burn it down all the same. for the Burial Agency, being a non-human primary species is on its own "evil".[2]

Assembled with Agency Director Narbareck at its top, each and every one is a failed saint that rivals a whole Assembly of the Eighth Sacrament. There is an eighth reserve member, but they are not granted the same privilege. The privilege of independent action permitted by the Archbishop are the 7 members only, therefore it was decided that adding more than that would be dangerous.[3]

Members
Director - Narbareck[3]

Cardinal Noi Seonator Granfatima[3]
Monsignor Andrei Godbivouac[3]
Sister Kiara Kisshouin[3]
Exorcist Mr. Dawn[3]
Unknown[3]
Executor Argaleon[3]
Ciel[3]
Reserve - Unknown[3]

Ciel and Beast Kiara is member of Burial Agency. Yes Hansa was right

>> No.37296997

>>37296871
>>37296885
>>37296905
Ciel is from Burial Agency, all of whom are very powerful, but her strength originally was in her use of ritual tools and being literal immortal.
>average magi's mana generation was 20, then Ciel's is 5000
I'll admit my memory is shit, but I don't remember anything of the sorts being a thing in OG, as well as cracking city in two, using some crazy space beams (even if it came from the Ida Blood), creating huge barriers etc.
Even fucking Aoko (even after using the 5th magic) and Touko, being one of the strongest Mages, were using some generic magecraft when trying to kill each other, but here comes Ciel, who isn't even a Mage, kills DAAs regularly and even Zelretch is afraid of her now.
No powercreep to be seen here, sure.

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>>37296994
1st Burial Agency Noi is Rasputin's boss and the guy who order destroy Chaldea

>> No.37297022

>>37296997
> Zelretch is afraid of her now.
Zelretch crushed Red Moon "Ulltimate One"
Can't even match

>> No.37297028

>>37296997
Ciel always had monstrous magical potential. It's whys he's superhuman. He just refined the lore for when things went crazy.

>GJ: I have a question about Fate characters. How high (or low) are the talents of Emiya Shirou and Tohsaka Rin within the entire history of the Association?
Nasu: Rin really is a genius. Given time, she'll enter within the top 100 magi of the Association throughout its entire history. Shirou won't move out from being an magus apprentice, but as a spell-user, he'll be among one of the big specialists. Ultimately, he'll receive an evaluation on the same level as "Magus Killer" Emiya Kiritsugu had in his peak, maybe. If I were to put into simple numbers, Ciel: 100, Rin: 70-100, Shirou: 10 (under particular limited conditions, then 40).

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>>37297028
OG:Rin 70~10,Ciel100
Now: Rin 100 Ciel 5000

>> No.37297064

>>37297041
Rin 500, Ciel 5000. It's a different scale and just reinforces the idea that Ciel was always peak of magical potential in it's history.

>> No.37297065

Her original capcity is stated in the notes in Talk:
>the capacity of Ciel was ridiculously large. If a regular magus’ gas tank was 40, then Ciel’s was more than 4000.

>> No.37297079

I wonder what Tsuki Kiara would think of Shiki once he joins the church.

>> No.37297081

Ciel's ridiculous potential as a magus is a plot point in the game as, upon becoming Ciel, Roa talks about how stupid it was to factor in social status rather than pure firepower in choosing his next body, so I'm not sure why that anon is so surprised by the remake.

>> No.37297092

>>37297081
>Roa gets a revelation as Ciel
>Chooses the Tohnos immediately after who have status but are absolute fuckups
Was he too crazy or what?

>> No.37297093

>>37297081
Because strong Tsukihime characters is bad. And if they are strong, then they shouldn't show it. Or something, derp. Power level autists.

>> No.37297100

>>37297092
Ridiculous Status(Aren't Tohno essentially one of the strongest and richest families in the entire world?) plus inhuman abilities. Only lineage in Japan that fits the bill.

>> No.37297114

>>37297100
>Aren't Tohno essentially one of the strongest and richest families in the entire world
I don't remember this, where was it said or is it a remake point? Still funny that inversion is volatile as shit to the point where they need to kill their own blood to suppress it, and Roa actively gets fucked by it on Far Side

>> No.37297132

>>37296997
Retard.

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>>37296840
Koyama did the coloring and contributed to some designs like Vlov's clothes and a few weapons, but most of the line art was Takeuchi. There are a couple CGs that are pretty obviously Koyama and Takeuchi maybe did the faces after, though.

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>> No.37297155

>>37296784
The simplest way to look at it is as the JOP curse. Everything noteworthy that isn't in English will be put on a pedestal but once it eventually does get an English release, opinions will become more grounded across the board. It's fine but it's not like it's hugely better than the old one, it's just flashy and complete now. I mean just look at >>37296810's standards.

>> No.37297162

>>37297135
booba

>>37297155
>using the gook as baseline anything

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>>37297155
>once it eventually does get an English release

>> No.37297171

>>37297022
That was the point of my sarcasm. She is suddenly almost able to take on Arc with her power unleashed, eats DAAs as cookies. I wouldn't feel safe if I was a mere Ultimate One.

>Ciel always had monstrous magical potential. It's whys he's superhuman. He just refined the lore for when things went crazy.
That's the problem, anon. In TM universe before FGO etc, for a monstrous magical user to go crazy meant to launch a beam thats 10 times longer (Aoko) or to make shit ton of preparations (Touko, mb Rin). And I'm pretty sure Ciel did all she could in OG. But guess what, she was only human, even if one of the strongest ones. But in OG they decided that it would be cool to match Ciel with unbound Arc. Next Ciel (or may be Akiha this time) will shoot lasers from her mouth.
Tsuki always stood out for not being flashy, which made it feel kind of more realistic and relatable, with Arc being the only exception, as she was always almost omnipotent.
But Nasu decided that it will be to plain for FGO newfags, so here we go, everyone can be OP cause it looks cool/edgy; also, hello stupid oversized weapons, we've missing you sooo much.
It's just sad.

>> No.37297184

>>37297022
>Zelretch crushed Red Moon "Ulltimate One"
Wasn't it basically a draw?

>> No.37297195

>>37297114
I actually can't find it. I think it might be in one of Nasu's bullshit interviews. Only thing I could find was that The Tohno(and branch families) clans are some form of business conglomerate and the fact that mixed-bloods are essentially in power of the nation. The bit about only the Tohno being suitable for Roa was from Remake. They presumably getting buffed since only the Tohno land(assumed admittedly) is safe from Arcs rewriting.

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>>37297171
She killed 5 27DAA in remake
>Vlov
>Chrome Clay
>Be Ze
>Roa
>Forest

27DAA is fucking weak

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>>37297184
>Draw?
NO
Zelretch literally crushed Moon

>> No.37297220

>>37297171
Stop posting.

>> No.37297221

>>37297199
Ciel is on Gurren Lagann trip in Re.

>> No.37297226

Stop replying to the gook for the love of God.
Surely this thread isn't just ESLs who cannot figure this shit out?

>> No.37297235

>>37297220
>someone on the Internet has different opinion, I can't handle it

>> No.37297247

>>37297171
I wouldn't go that far. The powercreep definitely is kind of silly in Ciel's case by turning the majority of her fights into dull exposition dumps about whatever new edgy tool she's using this time and more importantly diluting the point of her original abilities, but she needed to completely expend several Idea Bloods and her whole magical pool to 1up Gilbrain Arc and still fucked up.

I find it more questionable that she's able to use Idea Bloods at all, let alone multiple and with only a losing a small part of humanity.

>(or may be Akiha this time) will shoot lasers from her mouth.
She already does that in Melty lol

>> No.37297249

>>37297199
Roa not counted among the 27. We also don't know the specifics of any of those fights other than Vlov who beat her before Shiki intervened. It doesn't show that the 27 are weak. It shows that Ciel is a monster on par with the strongest characters in TM when she's fully buffed.

>> No.37297254
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>>37297221
Truly became Andersn

>> No.37297259

>>37297247
>She already does that in Melty lol
Since 2003 Melty Blood Bruh
What are you talking about

>> No.37297262

>>37297254
I can't believe that Anderson is STILL the gold standard for badass Church member.

>> No.37297263

>>37297249
The church counts him because he's an equivalent threat, and that's what matters. I don't think Ciel being a character for powerlevelfags really helps her.

>> No.37297272

>>37297259
The same thing you're talking about

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>>37297249
>>37297263


Nasu say he want buff 27daa
but eventually he nerfed daa

>> No.37297279

>>37297263
He doesn't have a super duper reality warping idea blood so he's not equivalent. Damage to humanity over the generations puts him at the 9th rank iirc.

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>>37297279
Jealous?

>> No.37297312
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>> No.37297313
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>>37297312
Okita = Kohaku
Any opinion?

>> No.37297322

>>37297313
Fuck off gook.

>> No.37297330

>>37297279
Yes. It's not about just the chuuni fights, it's also uniquely having the tools to permanently end him.

>> No.37297339

>>37297235
I don't like opinions founded on sheer ignorance.

>> No.37297350
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Power buff > is bad thing?
bruh please... power buff is always good thing

>> No.37297353

>>37297247
Her being able to fight serious Arc (not the unleashed form) is already very questionable, let alone pretty much winning. And the part after that is just some trippy anime acid.
And the Ciel's true end pretty much guaranties that we won't be seeing the Far Side as it was before, it will also has a lot of crazy flashy misplaced stuff instead of being toned down as it was in OG.

>losing a small part of humanity.
That's just Nasu's chuuni way of saying that a character did something that he couldn't possibly do, and the "loosing part" amounts to nothing.

>She already does that in Melty lol
So now we really need to see how Akiha destroys Arc with her lasers in Re. And it might be that we actually will.
Also, Len drops a huge cake on your head in MB, must be canon.

>> No.37297383

>>37297350
Why is Shiki so fucking hot? Glasses usually turn me off.

>> No.37297391

>>37297350
>eyes that can absolute death
>omnipotent vampire
>executor with absolute immortality
Yeah, clearly not enough powers.

>> No.37297392
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Fresh new good art
anyway Arc's white dress armor was mistake

>> No.37297395

>>37297392
Faggot

>> No.37297396

>>37297353
Yes, we needed it. It was great. Akiha is going to fucking destroy everyone. Think all she can do is hold Arc down with her hair? Think again bitch, she's going to fully awaken as a 1/10,000 year hybrid and glass the surface of the earth. And it will be Kino. My little sister can't be this cute.

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>>37297395
>Armor
>Wearing Dress

>> No.37297415

>>37297403
Cute.

>> No.37297419

>>37297396
>Akiha is going to fucking destroy everyone.
And it will be canon too, as it is certain that some kind of shit like you described will actually happen now.

>> No.37297421
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>>37297395
>>37297396
Melty is just fighting game
why are you guys take it seriously?
Look at blade Hisui

>> No.37297428
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>>37297392
>>37297403
>Henshin in Tsuki
Can we stoop even lower?

>> No.37297430

>>37297419
I sure hope so.

>> No.37297431

>>37297421
Hisui has always been a sword otaku.

>> No.37297434
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>>37297415
>Arc say It's FireResistance Armor
>Dress with heels
>Looks cute

They ruined my princess

>> No.37297439

>>37297431
No only in Carnival phantasm
Not Tsukihime

>> No.37297442

>>37297434
Don't worry you'll always have the original game in which she is not cute at all.

>> No.37297448

>>37297439
No.

>> No.37297449

>>37297439
When Kohaku gives Shiki his knife she jumps in out of nowhere and starts gushing about how perfect the blade is. It's a much less far stretch than mad scientist Kohaku.

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>>37297428
Nasu and Take only care about Ciel route
They ruined Arc route

>> No.37297456

>>37297448
Source bitch

>> No.37297459

>>37297421
>melty is just a fighting game bro
>just forget that the arbiter of canon invented necos and the kaleidostick

>>37297428
Phantasmoon

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>>37297450
>>37297434
Ciel route buffed 9/10
Arc route nerfed 2/10
this is my final rating

>> No.37297473

>>37297434
What, did you want to her to fight Vlov dressed as a firefighter?

>> No.37297486

>>37297428
>>Henshin
>lowers quality
pleb

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>>37297434

>> No.37297496
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>>37297473
She changed cloth for no reason
Really necessary? NO

>> No.37297507

>>37296866
I expected Melt to be dtf & want to marry. I'm not particularly upset since it would have felt forced beyond words but now I know to slam the doubt button when gacha and romance is used in the same sentence.

>> No.37297530
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>>37297442
There's such thing as a mature charm, which is so much rare than the generic "cuteness" of every heroine of every VN/anime/manga.
And she still was pretty cute too.

>> No.37297531
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Ciel
>her route improved, way better than og
>her power buffed
>her new design look cute and badass at the same time
>her new heavy weapon looks fantastic

Thanks you Nasu

>> No.37297542

Who is the gook, guys? Is it daybit?

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>>37297459
Neco Arc was already in KT.

>Isn't her route pretty much the same? In my opinion, Ciel's True is the most questionable. But I'd agree that Arc was soiled in more than on way, if that's what you mean.

>> No.37297569

Arc's remake route's better than the original for cutting bullshit from the original. That and the writing.

>> No.37297580

>>37296994
>Godbivouac
...

>> No.37297601

For what reasons did those Afghans cut the Jalter daki?

>> No.37297603

>>37297569
I'd agree for the most part and about the writing, but what is the bullshit you are referring to?

>> No.37297616

>>37297350
When the world's were split because one installment had too much power it kinda makes you look like a fuckin retard when your remake has more powerlevel in one route than the entirety of the supposed "flashy" installment.

>> No.37297627

>>37297531
>her new design look cute and badass at the same time
its SHIT

>> No.37297662

Unbelievable. A Type-Moon thread where people hate chuuni writing.
>Why the fuck did they ruin my game? They made my immortal vampire princess who could casually alter reality and everyone knew was the strongest in TM since forever actually show something on screen. No, my super nun who could challenge her is actually challenging her. Oh no, my instant death killer is killing shit deader than dead now.
Continue.

>> No.37297668

>>37297603
Shit like Shiki wondering if the mysterious nun who saved him who looks identical to Ciel is actually Ciel or not.

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>> No.37297683

>>37297673
This actually makes Ryougi look cooler than all her official appearances. Based art.

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>>37297627
Most of Tsukihime fans love it
look at this ranking

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>>37297531
Mash = released in 2015
CIel = released in 2000
Called blue mash
funny

>> No.37297757

>>37297695
I'm not the anon you are answering to, but that's TsukiRe's character popularity pol (Shiki is low af, so may be it's just a coomer rating), not a "old Ciel's design vs the new one".

>> No.37297885

How does Ciel kill Arc 'with own weight' ? How does smashing the town on top of her accomplish that?

>> No.37297901

>>37297885
> How does smashing the town on top of her accomplish that?

That's Carvaria's Star
Ciel's own magic

>> No.37297919
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R18 game Tsukihime remake just sell over 300,000 copies
sell more than OG R18 F/SN (200,000) and Extra (80,000)

>> No.37297926

>>37297901
I know that. But didn't she also say Calvaria Star wouldn't be able to kill Arc by itself? That's why she split the ground to smash her with it. I just dont get how slamming the ground on top of her nearly kills her but nothing else.

>> No.37297934

>>37294681
Pretty much what everyone already said, but I'll add that Remake designs are extremely unappealing to even those who hate "normal clothes" anyway and want every character strapped with a thousand buffs. I "drip" arguments would always be there regardless, but I think Remake's poor designs amplified it.

There's also just the reality that no Melty Blood game will ever reach the heights of late Melty Blood Actress Again. Pretty much why I was fine with Melty staying dead.

>> No.37297958

>>37295975
generals are always the schizo threads.

>> No.37297966
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>>37297926
Ground is Arcueid's marble phantsm
Arcueid changed ground
and that ground is herder like her body

>> No.37297967

Melty is great and Nudesigns are awesome.

>> No.37297970

>>37297958
samefag till you drop.

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>>37297934
Arc always wear normal cloth
white turtleneck with long skirt

>> No.37297996

>>37297966
Wait. So is Event Storage just another part of Marble Phantasm then? I thought they were separate.

>> No.37298019

>>37296997
you're right but fanboys will never admit to it

>>37297093
Strawman elsewhere retard, there are better ways to show power. Arcueid was always stupidly powerful but it was presented very well in OG lore. Remake is style over substance when it comes to how powerful some characters are.

>> No.37298025

>>37297996
Marble Phatasm is very simple ability
If want PS5
think and imagine
then you got PS5

>> No.37298030

>>37298025
Oh alright. Thanks anon.

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>>37297996
Arc imagine about castle olf brunestud
and she summoned it in Souya city

>> No.37298052

>>37295516
>>37296128
>>37296195
>>37296262
The real reason is probably that drawing them over and over was obnoxious so they cut them out.

I'm serious in that I think this is main reason.

>> No.37298068

>>37298019
Remake has both style and substance in spades. Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad.

>> No.37298073

>>37298052
It is a lot of fucking detail actually so maybe you are on to something.

>> No.37298109

>>37298068
and just because you like it doesn't mean it's good. Illuminating revelation

>> No.37298131

>>37298068
Not the anon, but Nasu said it himself, that he will introduce changes to Tsuki in Re to cater to younger auditory (read as "FGO fags"), and so he did.

>> No.37298150

>>37298109
All I said was it had style and substance. All kinds of deep and interesting conceptual shit, magic babble and cool flashy style are present. You're the one asserting it has no substance because style somehow precludes it.

>> No.37298167

>>37298131
I'm an oldfag. I'm not afraid of some flash nor do I think it's indicative of age at all.

>> No.37298187

Remember kids, substance has nothing to do with how you use something to tell a story, just how convoluted and long-winded you can make your setting fluff

>> No.37298194

All the op shit was saved for Ciel true basically. Arc route is very toned down while still being strong and cool. The remake has both styles present.

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>>37298167
You're old fag , but you don't know about
how powerful they(Arc,CIel) are
haha Funny

>> No.37298210

>>37298150
You're not familiar with that expression?

>> No.37298233

This is a top 5 shitthread.

>> No.37298239

>>37298210
I'm saying it's wrong in this case.

>> No.37298244

>>37298233
it's the gook effect, when will /tmg/ learn to let the thread die a bit instead of biting onto his autism

>> No.37298248

>>37298208
Reading comprehension retard. Nothing implies what you assert here.

>> No.37298250

>>37298244
Too many ADHD fucks who don't appreciate a comfy pace.

>> No.37298257

>>37298239
I'm saying you're misinterpreting its usage. Style over substance is never meant to indicate style precludes substance but that the creator ignored the latter in favor of the former, often by mistaking them as the same.

>> No.37298267

>>37298244
What is the gook effect exactly.

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Ufotable's boobs quality

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This is why they delete Sion

>> No.37298425

>>37296850
it kinda makes sense, don't forget roa chose her as a vessel due to her exceptional magical capabilities, and the fact that she was a host to one of the strongest vampires in history must've given her the extra boost

>> No.37298479

>>37298167
The original anon here.
Neither am I afraid, but I do dislike it.
>some flash
Yeah, just some, right?
There is a lot of flash, and some are just going to far.

It was already previously mentioned about problems with Ciel vs Ark battle, but there is so much more. Shiki becoming a fucking spider in the Vlov fight is also another powerup. Shiki could display some superhuman feats even before, sure, but not at that level, afaik.

Then there is Vlov's fight itself. In a lot of older Nasu's works it was stated how important for both Mages and Vampires to hide themselves and their doings, and that they are really doing their best to do hide everything. In Mahoyo the entire premise was to eliminate the witness, and how important this is.
In Tsuki, Nero's fight was localized, and the hotel burning down was the largest occurrence in scale.
In Remake though, Vlov just casually destroys part of the city, doing all the stuff for everything to see from the streets and surrounding buildings, in the modern day and age with everybody having a cellphone and capable of recording.
And then there's Ciel's incident in French, literally, the Eclipse from Berserk. So, basically, no, vampires in Re (at least DAAs) don't give a fuck about concealment at all. And still, for some reason and somehow vampires are still treated as an urban legend. Very plausible. Trying to excuse it with the Church and the Association somehow covering it is a complete bs. Precisely because the new setting is modern, you should be able to get away with such stuff at all and be much more strict about it...like it was in OG. But, hey, fuck that, right?

In my eyes, everything just came down to "we will do big flashy stuff because that's what people want to consume nowadays, fuck any reasoning and whatsoever, we just can excuse anything by creating another universe etc".

>> No.37298492

>>37298479
you should NOT be able to get away with such stuff

>> No.37298539
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Wow Ciel literally killed this spider just 1 minute

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>>37298539
Looks Chad but weak creature

>> No.37298561

>>37298425
Yes, her innate abilities must be exceptional, so that'd make her on pair with, say, Rin.
>host to one of the strongest vampires in history
Am I forgetting something? When was it said that he is one of the strongest? Just cause he is 28th DAA? All he does is pursuing immortality, I don't remember other crazy feats by him. And his power comes from Arc, obviously, which is the reason she is hunting him. But that power is still within him, he didn't left any of it in Ciel, because Arc doesn't feel urge to kill Ciel to return her power.
So the aftereffect of Roa being in Elesia is her immortality. So she is an immortal in an exceptional magic user. Which perfectly matches to what we've had in OG. In Re though, she is on some demigod level.

>> No.37298567

>>37298539
>>37298543
Is it safe to assume that it's Arach's creature?

>> No.37298574

>>37297934
Melty Blood:Re-Act is better than Actress Again. The story mode alone is better.

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>>37298567
Nasu officially say Arach is 27DAA
So mabye

>> No.37298596

>>37298257
Yup the remake is a failure even though many on here have called it good for it’s writing and character arcs. It’s not just all substance.

>> No.37298607

>>37298561
>In Re though, she is on some demigod level.
no she isn't?

>> No.37298621

>>37298592
When/were did he says so? May be a citation?

>> No.37298640
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Too much autism, not enough posting. Carnival phantasm!!!

>> No.37298642

>>37298596
failure
R18 sell over 300,000 copies (only near side routes, released japan only)

OG R18 F/sn sell 200,000 Extra sell 80,000
So many ppeople buy it but failure, seriously?

>> No.37298652

>>37298479
And you gotta remember that he moved the setting into the big city just so that characters can start popping skyscrapers. And people get angry when Nasu gets called a hack.

It's really a shame what Nasu did to his setting. The world presented in Tsuki and FSN/HA was really interesting but practically every subsequent installment, other than Mahoyo, has filled it with just garbage.

>> No.37298656

I'm so happy gook poster(s) are filtered out from the Tsukihime writing team. Not only do I get awesome Chuuni scenes sprinkled in my epic romantic horror, but I get to slurp up their tears to boot.

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>>37298621
Read this limited edition (aniplex) meterial books
Nasu say Arach is 27DAA

>> No.37298671

>>37298656
Don't be sarcastic fool
Read Tsukihime Tsuushin R books,
this limited edition (aniplex) meterial books
Nasu say Arach is 27DAA

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>>37298661
This book has lots of information about remake

>> No.37298686

>>37298676
>we were denied a Koyama drawn remake.
i will never not be angry.

>> No.37298694

>>37298642
No the anon, and I think that calling it a failure is going too far, but
>So many ppeople buy it
1) People wanted to read the long awaited Remake asap
2) In Japan, a lot of disks were preordered even before the sales started
3) It was advertised well
4) Oldfags (that have some problems with different aspects of the Re) and not the majority

>> No.37298768

>>37298686
Koyama is good, but it's not like there are problems with drawings, right? There is a discourse about the designs, but that's different matter. Or do you imply that designs would be different as well in Koyama case?

>> No.37298789

>>37298694
>VN market are dead
>Japanese people really don't like r18 games
(this is why resident evil 2 games released two version)
>Tsukihime is 20 years old game, there's very few oldfags in japan, rest of them? they're almost 40s grand papa
>They split in 2 (near and far side route)
Far side route only fans don't buy it

Even these probelms
Remake sold over 300,000 copies

>> No.37298803

>>37298661
Name of the book?

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>>37298686
He's Aotsuki
not Koyama

>> No.37298814

>>37298592
>>37298803
Tsukihime Tsuushin R
Book cover art>>37298592

>> No.37298821

>>37298768
I just love the way Koyama draws faces and expressions.

>>37298807
I was mislead by this thread. How dare (You).

>> No.37298823

>>37298803
Tsukihime Tsuushin R
Cover Art>>37298592

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>>37298821
faces and expressions
expressions part Takeuchi is better

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>> No.37298904

>>37298789
>Japanese people really don't like r18 games
TsukiR doesn't have hentai, except for one scene where Shiki molests Arc a bit.
>Tsukihime is 20 years old game, there's very few oldfags in japan, rest of them? they're almost 40s grand papa
You sound like half of people don't live up to 40yo or something. I don't really get this point.
Also, TM obviously lured all the young people playing FGO etc.
>Far side route only fans don't buy it
Fat chance, dude. You've gotta really hate the Near side to ignore the recently released Remake, even if there is no Far side.

Also, as I mentioned before, most physical copies of TsukiR were sold out right away, which means that people bought it before really knowing for sure whether it will be good or bad, just cause of the hype.
And for a newcomers, it should look good. And even though I am an oldfag and pretty sad about quite a few things, I still cope, cause I understand that everything could've been much worse.

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>> No.37299015

>>37298904
>hentai
>r18
So you mean Resident evil is hentai game?
What the hell are you talikng about?

>You sound like half of people don't live up to 40yo or something.
Yeah most of them don't play game (especially in Japan)

>most physical copies of TsukiR were sold out right away
Every "Otaku based games" sold out right away nothing new

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>>37298919

>> No.37299076

>>37298789
Is 300,000 really that impressive? In this current day and age, id expect a game to be considered successful if it had 1mil sold copies.

>> No.37299109

>go to sleep, wake up
>thread filled with ESL
actually just stop

>> No.37299119

>>37296850
Ciel was always supposed to be a magical powerhouse, Nasu simply never bothered showing that in the original Tsukihime.

>> No.37299124

>>37298814
>>37298823
ty

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>> No.37299145

I miss wormfag general. It's unironically better than seeing some guy rage about cool scenes and try and convince themselves the game was a failure.

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>> No.37299289

>>37299119
She was always supposed to be some fucked up crazy super tank, she just never got a fight to really show it since she was either bullying Shiki or getting bullied by Arc.
It's like Nero. He's supposed to be much much stronger than what his showings in the OG actually were.

>> No.37299290

>>37299076
It's VN
VN market is dead in Japan
and Fate,Tsukihime is not worldwide AAA game like GTA

Even ultra famous Demon slayer fighting game sell 120,000 copies (first week) in japan

>> No.37299339

>>37299289
At the end her route in the original VN Ciel had fully geared up was ready for a fight against Arc, but then she instantly jobbed which made her look pretty weak. It wouldn't have been so bad if she had been able to put up a fight for a time but instead we had an instant loss situation.

>> No.37299358

>>37299076
If 300,000 copies tittle is not that impressive score
TM and Nasu never post this news on their official twittter.

Forexample Mahoyo VN sold 100,000 copies

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>>37299339
Arc is too OP
Make sense

>> No.37299382

>>37299290
>>37299358
Oh yeah i forgot VNindustry wasnt as thriving as it used to. I guess 300,000 was unprecedented considering most zoomie consumers of the market had 1min of attention span and prefer playing gun shoot and forknife more.

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>>37299382
>>37299382
Look this VN sales chart
Info : Tsukihime

>> No.37299431

>>37299416
What about PC sales?

>> No.37299432

>>37299416
Tsukihime remake DL version not include

>> No.37299454

>>37299431
Realta Nua (Fate route 2008, UBW 2012, HF 2014) is not R18 adult version

R18 adult version Fate/sn (PC, 2004) sold 200,000 copies

>> No.37299462

>>37299416
Failed.

>> No.37299475

>>37299431
We don't know about OG R18 version Tsukihime (2000) sales date
But remake Tsukihime sold 300,000 copies for now

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>>37299462
No DL version not include
Fate and other VN don't have DL version
Tsukihime remake sold 300,000 copies

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What's the point in trying to salesfag against a game that's objectively selling the best a type moon vn ever has while also in a much worse market
if this is a failure every vn failed much harder.

>> No.37299591

Mahoyo sold 100,000 copies
So mahoyo was epic fail TM's trash?

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Thread dead

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Kino

>> No.37300126

good morning
>>37298019
>Arcueid was always stupidly powerful but it was presented very well in OG lore
It was barely presented at all, really. You get some statements and she beats up Ciel but otherwise you could very easily mistake her for what is more or less just a strong normal vampire with only Tsukihime. We're talking about a character that could maybe drop a moon and her best feat on screen is putting Ciel into a wall, a character that also barely gets to show how strong she should be. OG power presentation was extremely bad, actually. All the heavy hitters unironically look street level at best when they very clearly aren't, Nero, Arc, Ciel, Roa, even to an extent Akiha though she got treated well
>>37298479
>Shiki becoming a fucking spider in the Vlov fight is also another powerup.
Far too lazy to check but I'm pretty sure Arc is mostly just holding him in place for that stuff.
> Trying to excuse it with the Church and the Association somehow covering it is a complete bs.
They can mind wipe people and are working with the government, who can presumably take shit off the internet
>Precisely because the new setting is modern
Try telling someone some random Liveleak gas leak was instead a magical vampire explosion right now and report back with the results. That's how you would sound, assuming the Church doesn't just get to you first.

>> No.37300259

>>37300126
No logic aloud bro.
Shiki was being tethered to the stone. He's always been capable of moving like a spider and shit though. That's kind of the Nanaya way. They have unique bodies.
Vlov causing chaos is noted to be problematic and highly abnormal since he's insane.
But for reals, if you're worried about vampires being found out in modern society... then you're fucked anyway in the modern age of the spy state even if you keep it on the down-low and stick to abandoned garages. Only explanation is cooperation with muggle authorities(which we see in remake). We also know half-bloods seemingly run the nation according to old law so there is probably a vested interest in coverups. We also see how eye witnesses get treated like flaming retards suffering from ptsd. As for the Eclipse... well every witness died except the perpetrator and a future church girl.

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>>37298479
>Then there is Vlov's fight itself. In a lot of older Nasu's works it was stated how important for both Mages and Vampires to hide themselves and their doings, and that they are really doing their best to do hide everything.
>In Tsuki, Nero's fight was localized, and the hotel burning down was the largest occurrence in scale.
>In Remake though, Vlov just casually destroys part of the city, doing all the stuff for everything to see from the streets and surrounding buildings, in the modern day and age with everybody having a cellphone and capable of recording.
Did you actually read the Remake?
This is actually an important plot point regarding both Vlov and Mario and it's explained in the VN several times.
Try reading the remake again, if you actually can.

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>>37300275
what's wrong with Takeuchi

>> No.37300597

[Kara no Kyoukai][Tsukihime][Fate/Stay Night] power scaling > [Fate/Extra][Fate/Grand Order][Tsukihime Remake] power scaling

Simple as.

>>37298479
>In my eyes, everything just came down to "we will do big flashy stuff because that's what people want to consume nowadays, fuck any reasoning and whatsoever
I think Nasu said he literally wanted to "go Hollywood"

Hollywood is shit, so that's why it ended up the way it was.

>> No.37300646

>>37300275
>Did you actually read the Remake?
Yes. I do have shit memory though, just in case.
>This is actually an important plot point regarding both Vlov and Mario
I remember them doing just the usual cover up stuff, what else? Surely you are not talking about fencing the place out and making up silly excuses?
>Trying to excuse it with the Church and the Association somehow covering it is a complete bs
Doing something like that in a city in Japan basically means there is thousands of witnesses and at half a hundred videos in the Internet in a hour. You must remember that the setting is modern, unlike in the OG.

>> No.37300679

>>37299076
That’s pretty impressive for a JP only release. It’s doing better than Metroid and other Triple A game releases.

>> No.37300887

>>37294688
>She has aReality Marble,Depletion Garden(枯渇庭園,Kokatsu Teien?), which rapidly decreases themanaof the area where the Reality Marble is expanded. >drains and dissipates the mana in the environment rather than absorbing the magical energy of a single target.
>It is extremely effective againstMagiwho need mana to attack orElementals that require it in order to exist, but it has no actual effect on creatures that are cut off from the world, such ashumans who don't survive on mana.

Nah it's still gonna effect Ciel.

>> No.37301037

>>37300887
Not going to have that big of an effect though. Cutting Arc from the surroundings is good because she draws her power from Gaia, that's why Shiki "killing" the earth in a localized area around her is effective and allows him to see her lines at night, but it doesn't actually make her immediately weaker either. It lets him do some damage but that's it really.
Ciel's strength is that her magical capacity is fucking huge. Her actual rate of regeneration is apparently average but she's still comparable to an army of magi. She'd still just be able to slam Seventh into Satsuki's face before it started to matter if there was a real fight

>> No.37301266

>>37300646
Vampires dont care if theyll damage a whole city just by their mere activity and Church especially Burial Agency wont hesitate to just nuke the whole place down if a DAA is involved. Church arent as autistic as Mages when it comes to concealing mystery.

>> No.37301317

>>37300887
Did Satsuki had RM in OG? I dont remember her having one while reading the VN damn. Se probably got the ability on Melty Blood because I cant remember at all.

>> No.37301375

>>37301317
also yeah, she gets pretty strong once Melty rolls around but Shiki kinda just casually runs her over in far side if he tries, not even necessarily with Nanaya either.

>> No.37301413

>>37301375
It wasnt even a fight, i just remember it being a confrontation and her asking tohno to save her.

>> No.37301508

>>37301375
How did Meltystaffs even came up of Satsuki having RM? That shit really made no sense.

>> No.37301525

>>37301266
It was said in the game that vampires care, since they don't want to be found out, esp. by the Church, and iirc, the Church cared about concealment as well. If both of the statements above were wrong, every human in Tsuki would know that vampires actually exist.

>> No.37301733

>>37301525
Yeah, Arc says so in the remake and that's exactly why she can't read Vlov. He just doesn't care. Even Arc is surprised the church is not trying to kill Vlov on the spot but even that is explained later on.
It's really not that hard to understand, especially when they literally talk about it in the Remake.

>> No.37301750
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>The story about vampires and inbred kids with superpowers is not realistic enough!
Why are you like this?

>> No.37302002

>>37301750
Not him, but just because a setting has fantastic elements doesn't mean a writer is allowed to shit the bed entirely and get away with it.
Keeping things within acceptable levels of logic and consistency along with respecting established rules is important if you want anyone to take your story seriously.
I'm not talking about this debate in particular, but I constantly see people going "dude there's magic and shit so it doesn't matter if the writer shits on all reason and his own rules lulz" and it's obnoxious.

>> No.37302097

>>37301508
It's something Nasu alluded to before Melty existed. It's meant to be part of an epic scene from her route, but we don't know anything about it. The idea back then was that all powerful DAs had their own RM, so it makes sense that Sacchin gets one too.

>> No.37302155

>>37301750
The most realistic thing would be people recording what happened with Vlov in the city and it going viral on the internet.

>> No.37302180

>>37299475
Nasu said on his blog ages ago that it sold over 100,000 copies.

>> No.37302209

>>37301733
Yeah, he doesn't care, and all those DAAs in French also apparently didn't care (and there were survivors as well, such as Noel). They obliterate a city, or ravage in the middle of another in one of the most populated areas in the world. Nobody cares, and still nobody knows huh, makes a lot of sense.

>> No.37302229

>>37301525
>every human in Tsuki would know that vampires actually exist.
Sounds like a hilarious premise.
>vampires are just chuuni try hards that want to be known
>humans have grown so bored with magical they can't even give a fuck

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