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Avenger is trolling Rin fans, obviously.

Rin just had oral sex with Shirou under the twilight in her kitty pajamas.

Rin being a slut

JACK BAUER

>>3724085
This seems unlikely.

>>3724091
Oh, you card.

>>3724084
More like catering to.

Why is she being such a slut, anyway? She was all timid in her original scene.

>>3724192
Because it's FHA, where shit is all fucked up.

>>3724196
Very fucked up. It's not like her to be this lustful.

And people call Sakura the slut. I'll bet Rin's guzzled gallons of Shiroucum.

>>3724340
Sure, but Rin isn't a completely nuts clingy girl who's willing to preserve her own fleeting happiness against all the rest of humantiy.

>>3724340
How does Rin loving ONE man enough to drink his cum make her a slut? She clearly wants to have sex with Shirou because she loves him, she wouldn't be caught dead being fucked by Shinji unlike this promiscuous bitch and whore

>>3724417
She doesn't love him. There is no indication of this.

>>3724417
Simple: Sakura had no choice in the matter. Rin was all up on the dick of her own volition.

Rin also licks carpet, the dirty fishmouthed whore.

>>3724554
Saber doesn't really have much carpet.

>>3724565
That is beside the point and you know it.

>>3724455
Yes, she did. This is explicitly laid out in HF's best ending, where she doesn't really want to shack up with anybody else even though she has plenty of suitable suitors (pun not intended) because she'd rather have Shirou. She's just not going to jerk him out from under Sakura.

>>3724594
It's also covered in other scenes in Heaven's Feel. Sakura gets pissed off because Rin started admiring Shirou from afar basically the same way she did, and it stole her "moment".

>>3724603
You know who else started admiring him the same way?

Luvia.

>>3724696
Lancer too!

>>3724696
When I say "the same way", I mean on the exact same day observing him doing the exact same thing Sakura was.

Both of them first "met" Shirou when he was trying to do a pole jump he couldn't possibly make.

>>3724706
The fuck?

>>3724725
luvia_watches_shirou_jump_the_bar.jpg

>>3724594
She should learn to let go. She can get any man she wants.

>>3724696
Who DIDN'T start admiring Shirou after he tried jumping that huge bar.

>>3725030
And she wants Shirou.

>>3725044
Me. It reaffirmed in my mind how completely fucking retarded he was, and made me wish Rin had remained the protagonist.

Spoilers: Shirou was actually trying to jump the bar during a televised olympic event.

>>3725047
So the same thing that inspired Ado Edem to make his insane Slash Emperor and gave Ryougi Shiki her MEoDP just gave you the feeling of 'what a silly person'?
Sir, I think something is wrong with you.

>>3725058
I have no idea what the fuck you just said. If it's only found in some bullshit side material, I couldn't care less.

>>3725058
What?????????????????????????

>>3725047
I think most of /jp/ would have liked it if it would have kept Rin as the protagonist. Hell, my favorite part of the VN was her and Archer's interactions. Plus, they had a lot of chemistry in the prologue.

>>3725045
She can get any OTHER man she wants.

>>3725112
Would have been fine until it's jackhammer time.

>>3725112
I thought that image was a red-tinted ORT at first glance.

>>3725069
>>3725098
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S3600953

>>3725112
>>3725113
Man? Rin made it pretty clear that the one she wanted was Arturia, and not just because she was Saber. Even before eminent death she was marveling about how beautiful she was. And we all know what this leads up to...

No wonder Archer ended up so jaded.

Didn't Rin fall in love for the same reason Sakura did ?
The only difference is Sakura manned up and stalked him like a psycho while Rin fell into tsun mode.

>>3725540
She was giving Rider the once over as well after HF, marveling at how beautiful she was.

>>3725571
Rin became interested, Sakura became obsessed.

>The only difference is Sakura manned up and stalked him like a psycho
That's not really manning up, she just became his maid for over 2 years.

>>3725594
Yeah, the way she kept standing outside his house must've been creepy.
But some yan is never bad.

>>3725606
Nobody said it's bad, but it's not really 'manning' up.
They became interested in a different scale (Sakura was in a more desperate position).

>>3725578
Outside of Rin's swinging, women always size up every female.

>>3725615
What I meant is that Rin until the grail war never took any active action towards Shirou to try and at least get along with him, unlike Sakura that tried to get near him, too hard actually, and ended up being friendzoned.
They've both failed in an opposite way I suppose.

>>3725629
That's because she had more important things to worry about.

>>3725629
Rin did not really act on it because it was just an inteest (no deep crush or anything), plus Sakura being interested on him. Not to mention the image issue.
As for Shirou, he admired the perfect girl and gave up on Sakura's insistence, not acting on either case, since he is too busy fixing shit for Issei.

>>3725637
>Issei
The one he truly loves.

Issei is a bro. Probably the character I hated the least in F/SN.

No, wait, Lancer is better than Issei. But Lancer is better than anybody so yeah.

Rin is the biggest bro. Don't try to deny it.

>>3726001

Even as a joke I'm not going to agree with that. Rin is a screeching cunt with an entirely too high opinion of herself and unless she gets a complete personality transplant in Hollow Ataraxia, that's what she'll stay as.

>>3726001
ohyou.jpg
Seriously, the most bro character is Lancer, followed by Issei.

>>3726013
What this guy said, except the complete opposite.

>>3726013
Sounds like you're gonna LOVE Ms. Edelfelt.

>>3726013
She changes a lot.

>>3726025

Maybe. From what I've heard of her, Rubyangelita is a screeching horrible cunt to Rin and a pleasant elegant lady to everybody else, so that does sound like I'd like her (enemy of my enemy is my friend, right). Then again, if she's just White Rin, I'm going to be disappoint (son).

Rin has approximately one bro-like moment and that already came up in this thread - it's the fact that she lets Sakura keep Shirou instead of sabotaging their relationship for kicks like a woman normally would. But otherwise she's the diametrical opposite of a bro.

>>3726050
>From what I've heard of her, Rubyangelita is a screeching horrible cunt to Rin and a pleasant elegant lady to everybody else
She doesn't interact with anyone other than Rin, so we don't really know.

>>3726047
If you didn't like her through 3 different routes, you will not like her in F/HA.

>>3726050
She also helps him get laid, so that's two bro-like moments.

>>3726057
unlimited codes, bro

>>3726072
Oh, yeah. I guess there's that now.

I seem to remember her being a bitch to mai waifu in her story mode.

>>3726063

I did sort of like her in Fate. The prologue, where she's arguably at her best, was fresh in my mind, and since I knew she wasn't the "target" in that route there was no pressing need for her to fall head-over-heels over the point-of-view character. I could deal with her being cold because I assumed that was just so that she wouldn't steal the show from Saber and things would change in her own route.

Also, her contribution to the threesome in ruins was fuckhot, so I was looking forward to UBW.

Then her own route comes and she acts exactly the same as she did in Fate, cold, bossy and condescending, not showing even a glimpse of the same humanity she did in the prologue. Alright, I thought, let's imagine this is the Archer route then, but it didn't get much better that way, the route only served to eat away any goodwill I had built up for Rin. The dropkick to the balls was the "good" ending that frankly wasn't very fucking good at all, it just made me depressed that Shirou would have to spend the rest of his life with that horrible harpy or otherwise he would indirectly kill Saber.

>>3726087
Only because she was trying to compare her with Rin.

>>3726097
>Shirou would have to spend the rest of his life with that horrible harpy or otherwise he would indirectly kill Saber.
Nah, if he left she could probably sustain Saber on semen donated to the Association.

If you know what I mean.

>>3726107
But Luvia is Player 2 Rin.

>>3726097
That's...kinda the point though.

She's always that same person from the prologue. She just acts like it about 20% of the time. Because she doesn't convey her feelings properly.

>>3726131

What's the difference between being a bitch for real and not being a bitch, but constantly acting like one? That gets way too metaphysical for me. I want her to be nice, and if that's too much for her to handle, she can fuck right off.

>>3726135
But she IS nice. In her own way.

If you don't like the way she acts that's fine, but don't pretend that side of her personality is nonexistent just because you don't see it.

>>3726138
Creative character interpretation:
Ignore all positive traits.
Exaggerate negative behavior and give faulty reasoning.

We need a Rin as a fucking Pit Lord fanart for these threads.

>>3726219
Creative character interpretation:
Ignore all negative behavior.
Exaggerate positive traits and give faulty reasoning.

>>3726292
>>3726219
Correct character interpretation:
Read the fucking source material.
DO not confuse tastes/opinions with actual traits and behavior.

>>3726292
Uncreative character interpretation.
Realize character has positive and negative traits.
Place both in equal terms and explain motives.

Rin is still a good character.

>>3725113
She can have anyone she wants, BUT the only one she really wants is Shirou. That's the fucking point.

>>3725540
>Suggesting that Archer is jaded because of Rin as opposed to condemning himself to his own personal hell
>:trollface:

Rin's not perfect, but she's not nearly as bad as everyone on this board tries to make her out to be. At the same time, she's not a saint and she can be a bitchy little piece of work.

Considering that her father was basically a fundamentalist fuckwad as magi go, though, it IS fair to say that she's pretty goddamn extraordinary in that she's not infinitely more bitchy than she actually is.

>>3726805
The funny thing is, if yoy treat the other two females the same way. they come out to be even worse. Like a girl who seemingly only genuinely worries about you after she finds out you have her sheath, beats you up because of food, calls you a useless man who should stay behind even more aggressively , gets jealous if you learn how to fight from someone else and she actually almost gets in more trouble when she tries to do things her own way.
Let's not even get started with the queens of Bad Ends, Sakura and Ilya, cause it's too easy.

>>3726875
Saber is always concerned about you, but her exterior behavior revolves around acting like she's dead inside, pretty much. She's as bad as Shirou about throwing herself under the bus to save everybody else.

Sakura, in the meantime, is redeemed in my eyes only because she was willing to let herself die before she went batshit psycho. I don't think she's a slut or anything, but given the circumstances killing her strikes me as the only reasonable option.

>>3726974
While Rin is never concerned and there are no cases, including bad ends where she ges into harm protecting you for no 'real' reason, and Rin never has trouble expressing herself.

tl;dr:If you are forgiving for everyone else and condemning for one, you get what you see in these trheads.

>>3725112


This

I'm playing Fate now and i can't stand Shirou, he's an idiot "omg Saber can't fight, omg i'm the MAN".
Does he get any better?

>>3726875

I always thought Ilya was just fucking horrifying and Shirou was a retard for not killing her when he had the option. I give a lot of shit to Rin but let's be fair here, fifty Rins scolding you 24/7 would be better than one single Ilya. Ilya is an immensely powerful psychotic, jealous sadist who needs no reason at all to just torture you indefinitely.

The only defense she has is that she apparently has the mind of a ten year old and theoretically could be nurtured to be good before she does anything irredeemable.

>>3727041
>Does he get any better?

Not really, Shirou is Shirou and stays like that essentially for all three paths of F/SN. The only real change comes at HF, and even that is for the worse.

>>3727041
Yes. About 12 hours of reading later.

>>3727049

Also, Ilya has the good sense to die in every route so there's at least payback.

>>3727049
>she apparently has the mind of a ten year old
No, her mind is fully developed. She just acts like that because she can.

>>3727017
Alas, I am forgiving to all of them. Except crazy!Sakura.

>>3727041
Clarification: Shirou is mentally off. He has no sense of self and places higher value on everyone else. It's not that he thinks he's better than Saber or anyone else for that matter, it's just that he doesn't care. It's in his nature to throw himself under a bus for other people he shouldn't even care about.

>>3727098

I'm condemning to all of them. Fucking scum.

>>3727098

There are no people you "shouldn't care about".

It's more that people just aren't mentally capable of caring about more than a certain amount of people closest to them (Dunbar's number).

Illya and Caster are both more evil than Rin on her worst day, but that's what they're supposed to be, they're the villains. They're supposed to be evil. Rin is held to a different standard because she's the heroine.

>>3727122
It is fully possible to care about more people than that. It just takes someone who isn't an egocentric faggot and doesn't think "If I don't know them, I don't care about them."

>>3727122
The point was more that he isn't an idiot so much as mentally twisted.

>>3727122
That's dumb. I have tons of people I hate. There are tons of people that I simply don't know nor care to know. Why should I care about any of them, even if I could? If it was possible, I certainly wouldn't suddenly start being a saint.

>>3727139

I doubt you shed a single tear back when that mudslide butchered thousands of innocents back in China or Pakistan or whatever hellhole that was.

You can cognitively recognize that it's undesirable for people to die, if that goes against some principle of yours, but you can't actually emotionally connect to it. The human brain doesn't work like that. You can even make some sacrifices of your own to help them, but that still doesn't mean you care, it means you go through the motions of caring.

>>3726805
>the only one she really wants is Shirou

And if she just gave up and actually got to know some other guys, she'd forget all about him.

>>3727143
People like you should die first.

>>3727154
I don't shed a single tear even when the people closest to me die, no matter how terrible the death. Are you telling me that's because I "don't care"?

>>3726292
>>3726311
>>3726315
what the fuck that's not how you do haikus

>>3727161
Disagree. Previous anon is right on the money.

>>3727161
Why? I doubt you're that different. Even if you are (props to you), it doesn't matter. It's not my responsibility to care for others, it's theirs. I don't see what's so wrong with that, it's as honest as I can be.

>>3727157
Funny, because that's the exact opposite of how she actually felt on the matter. After a year of not seeing him, period.

"I've had no shortage of proposals, and I'd at least like to have a research partner."

"... But somehow, I can't get serious. Every time I go out with a guy, I can't concentrate because another idiot keeps popping up in my head. It's unbelievable, but I think everyday that it might mean I'm in love with him."

>>3727200
Responsibility, huh? You're just digging your grave deeper.

>>3727215
Mind elaborating?

>>3727230
No. Some people cannot be saved. You're one of them, so talking to you is a waste of effort.

>>3727211
Also, she isn't entertaining the thought of stealing him to begin with as far as I can tell. She HAS "given up" on him, but she still prefers him over all of her other suitors.

Seriously. It's like arguing that Superman isn't faster than a locomotive.

>>3727241
If being "saved" means becoming some kinda human loving saint then you're probably right. Though it's a funny attitude to take from somebody who supposedly cares. I guess you don't give a damn about people like me. Course I could be wrong.

>>3727259
Don't give a damn? I want to kill you. I hardly think you can call that "not giving a damn."

>>3727211
>>3727257
She just hasn't met Shiki yet.

Saber was always the most respectable heroine to me. Sure, she did fall in love, but almost every time, she understood that her duty to her country was more important than teenage love. In the end, Saber is allowed to erase her memories for the good of her country, even if that means giving up her love and friends.

>>3727272

>>3727273
Saber's country was hopeless to begin with. At least half of her people and knights rebelled against her when Mordred stirred up shit. She's basically doing what Archer did, only it's even more futile because her Kingdom can't be saved.

>>3727262
Very caring of you. Kill a man who has family and friends who would be pretty damn sad if he died. Kill a man who has done practically nothing wrong besides being honest. It's not like I don't care about people I love. But you want to kill me because of something like this. Caring. Yeah.

>>3727284
Addendum: Saber is pretty much as bad as Shirou, she just has the power to back up her ideals.

>>3727284
I know, but at least she didn't try to run away and abandon it. Even if it was about to fail, she wanted to do anything possible to try and correct it because she still cared for her country, and regretted what she did to it.
Sakura could have never done that in a million years, she was too infatuated with Shirou to realize what she had become, and what she would do.
Rin is sorta neutral, I don't see her moving to London as selfish, but I suppose her whole love affair with Shirou limits her learning of becoming a proper Magi.

>>3727286
>has ... friends
I saw this coming. Get the fuck out of /jp/.

>>3727310
Saw this coming too. Bad troll.

>>3727306
Hmm. True enough.

As for Rin and London, I don't see her act as selfish. She wants to learn, but ultimately she's not cut out to be a proper magus. Which is a GOOD thing, because proper magi are douchebags.

Sakura happened solely because magi were being themselves and nobody gave a shit about it. The fact that Rin isn't cut out for that is just... extraordinary and awesome, to me.

>>3727211
The solution is clear.

She needs to find a woman.

>>3727306
The question is, is what she became really wrong?

>>3727366
Becoming an omnicidal lunatic is pretty wrong, yes.

>>3727426
On what basis?

>>3727433
On the basis that being alone is lonely.

>>3727464
Is loneliness wrong?

>>3727474
Yes. It is the most heinous of sins.

>>3727682
No, that's boredom. Get it right.

>>3727464