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>>37254954
OP forgot the link sigh

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
MEGA Link
https://mega.nz/folder/3hMjEaTK#TKTKhfXVd9v0emG8ePsDVQ

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
Tsukihime Remake Assets (OST and Sprites)
https://pastebin.com/ZLiqB1AT
Tsukihimates and Clover Moon MTL Project (Please contribute if you can)
https://github.com/Tsukihimates/Tsukihime-Translation

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3113948
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/xjmoqcdqzmmyc/Fate_hollow_ataraxia
Fate/Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://ww.mangakakalot.tv/manga/manga-kc952437
Heaven's Feel Movie Booklet Translation
https://imgur.com/a/se9NHn6

>Angel Voice
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate Franchise Lossless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI

>>37254975
>OP forgot the link

i didn't

>>37254954
I love her. Best imouto.

Imagine the absolute murderape sperglord that would come from a cross between Nanaya and Tohno, Akiha and Shiki should consider the shit they're getting into.

>>37255330
decent set up for tsukihime 2. imagine the seething

>>37255330
Don't worry, Kohaku will treat their son/daughter well.

>>37255330
>inb4 kid kill himself due to nanaya instinct acting up against tohno blood

>>37255476
The cold season is here.

>>37255676
it was funny only the first 10 times you said this

>>37255716
hence the >inb4

ciel

>>37254954
>>37254975
>>37254993
Based, fuck the links

https://twitter.com/jipupepo/status/1457813195003817985?s=21

Ponytail

>>37256543

So when honeymoon ended can we finally agree that remake is objectively mediocre?

>>37256921
No

>>37256921
Nope.

>>37256921
Nah

>>37256921
No

>>37256930
>>37256935
>>37256942
>>37256965
Your brain is rotten from consuming fgo and masturbating endlessly to anime girls, just sayin

>>37257004
>consuming fgo
I haven't even played one second of fgo and I never will
>masturbating endlessly to anime girls
implying there's anything wrong with this

>>37257004
never played fgo and I don't really think anything is that sexy here either, compared to current level of coombait in modern weebshittery.
most coom thing is like, arc and ciel shopped a size too small and are straining their shirts. but that's tame

>>37256921
You didn't play the remake.

You don't know Japanese.

Tsukihime is the greatest story of all time.

>>37257004
Never played FGO and never will. I barely coom to the Tsuki girls anyway. I am just really happy that Nasu delivered on the near side and didn't just shit out a remaster and only prioritise everything for the far side.

>>37256921
definitely no

>>37256921
why do you think the remake is "objectively" mediocre anon?

>>37257126
I would

>>37257004
Do you mind being contrarian and baiting on /v/ instead of here?

>>37257067
>Nasu delivered on the near side
This is on hold until Arc's true end.

>>37257126
Disgusting.

Nasu getting rid of the original near side good ends made me so happy. The weird quality disparity between the original near side and far side 2nd endings was bizzare.

>>37197432
>>37252361
>>37252589
I've just noticed that Shirou is rather appreciative of Servants here.

Best girl in the OG. Do NOT reply to me if you have shit taste.

>>37257995
Soon.

>>37258033
my negro

>>37257126
You shall die.

>>37257126
Anon, it's time to stop

Why is Shiki such an effective filter?

>>37258033
My husband

>>37259096
Nowadays people can't comprehend the idea of a protagonist that does bad things, even if it's against his will, unless it's some dumb antihero societal commentary dribble.
And even in those cases they often tend to miss the fucking point.

>>37259250
What's there to comprehend?

>>37259339
nothing, shiki is a faggot

>>37259382
don't get carried away monster

>>37259339
That the protagonist doing bad things is not an endorsement of those things. People are dumb so they see Shiki "getting away" with doing bad things and still being rewarded (or at least not punished) and treated like a fairly moral and somewhat principled person, which he is, and this confuses them.

>>37256921
Generals don't experience honeymoon periods, unfortunately.

>>37259250
>can't comprehend the idea of a protagonist that does bad things
Are you retarded? Anti-heroes have been the norm for like 40 years. People blindly hate moral-fag MCs much more

>>37258033
I can't get over the post talking about him being gay for Makihisa and how plausible it actually is.

>>37259530
>unless it's some dumb antihero societal commentary dribble.

>>37257995
Shit taste here, but I'm still replying.
Akiha > Arcueid > Len > Satsuki > Kohaku > Hisui > Ciel

>>37259566
well at least that boring whore satsuki is on the lower end of the spectrum

The maids are SLUTS!

>>37259618
Shut UP

>>37259546
Can’t wait for it to be revealed and him starting to have a crush on Shiki in the far side like Kirei and Shirou. And him being jealous of Kohaku for taking his gay romance away from him.

>>37259618
do not slander jade

>>37259645
>tfw no yandere bandaged bf route

>>37259655
AAAAA SHIKI-SAMA SAVE ME

>>37259733
Trust in the plan. Red garden will deliver.

>>37259286

>>37258033
>>37259546
>>37259733
why is he black?

>>37259976
He absorbed the BBC warrior gene.

>>37259976
charred skin tends to heal as scar tissue which is darker

>>37259976
Jews.

>During a discussion about Nasu's true name in another thread some very old pre-TM doujinshi were brought up. While looking at the pics I realized there was something very interesting in it other than Nasu's and Takeuchi's names, there was info on Old Fate in one of these.
>Not Fate/Prototype which is a reimagining of it but the actual novel Nasu wrote on high school. My Japanese isn't very good and it's hard for me to read handwritten japanese but I managed to identify the long-haired man on the center top of the left page as Kojiro, the angry-looking guy on the left bottom of the left page as Berseker and the armored man on the right top as Saber. I assume the girl with glasses to his left is Ayaka.
>Interestingly the line below mentions the name of the novel, which isn't just 'Fate'. The name of Old Fate was actually Fate Skipper (フェイト・スキッパー) which must be the most lame chuuni engrish name I've heard. No wonder Nasu himself never mentioned the full title.

Fate stay night sounds lame as hell too, we're just used to it

>>37260472
all engrish sounds lame as fuck unless you're a jop

>>37260518
i like the UBW chant...

>>37260518
The entire I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD chuuni chant will always be cool to me as a native English speaker.

>>37260524
>>37260525
it's still pretty fucking lame if you're not into chuuni

>>37260555
People who don't like chuuni aren't allowed to have opinions.

>>37260357
Tohno Kouichirou in the top left.

>>37260555
If you don't like chuuni then why are you here, though

>>37260560
Based as fuck

>>37260635
what's that to you? fuck off

>>37259923
sex

>>37256205
samefagging is still sad

>>37257067
>literally completely ignore half of far side
>just copy Sasaki's manga for the few changes made
>the autism that was Ciel's ending
its a delivery of something all right

>>37261111
cope

>>37261149
samefagging is the ultimate expression of cope tho

>>37261176
and samefag accusations is the second ultimate expression of cope

I'll never ever touch fate go, I'm not missing anything, right?

37261118
>>just copy Sasaki's manga for the few changes made
You know I like the manga as much as everyone else but some mangafags love to act like Arcs route didn't exist before it was released because of the original VNs scenes that were limited getting finally drawn in action so it's given them the complete wrong impression that all the scenes in the new VN are just taken from the manga.

>>37261311
I'd have rather Arc's route get completely rewritten over the addition of filler scenes that we got. Its very easy considering he's already rebooting the entire setting and what he did to Ciel's route.

>>37261354
>filler
Can someone explain this meme to me?

>>37261354
believe in the true route... just kidding, that should have been included in the game.

>>37261396
The fact that it was only hinted at by Neco-Arc is as damning as all the old Satsuki route jokes. Don't count on it unless we're getting a re-remake.

>>37261354
I see, you're just upset that Arc didn't get a happy ending whilst Ciel finally got a route that wasn't Arc 2.0

>>37261409
Surely the biggest hint is the stuff in Tsukihime Tsuushin R.

>>37261354
There's not much to actually change about it, though. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

which tsukihime girl would be the best mom

>>37261424
I don't care about happy endings, I actually really liked Sparks Liner High and Mind of Steel, I wanted a new story, not a conglomeration of two stories I already read. I'm not even an Arc fag.

>>37261451
Kohaku

>>37256499
>>37258857
>>37259286
>>37259923
soon

>>37261424
Why do Cielfags always assume this whenever the endings come up for any reason?

>>37256921
You're posting in a Type Moon general unfortunately, generals regulars overall are always the easiest to please.

Sakura is boring

>>37261380
retards that equate breather moments of levity to unnecessary blockades to the bigger picture

>>37261574
the plot point brain

https://twitter.com/rangetsu_/status/1458056930484621318?s=21

https://twitter.com/fiveonemiki/status/1458086841060630529?s=21

https://twitter.com/y_Hosi/status/1458056845952577541?t=itHGPjFhkOSzIZpoanZWQg&s=19
Can anyone translate?

>>37261653

>>37261677

>>37261681

>>37261699

>>37261494

>>37261505
They're getting cocky lately.

>>37261311
my wife

>>37260357
Stop stealing my posts, faggot.

>>37260555
It's max level cringe.

>cringe
you've gotta go back

>>37261737
Damn the Aoko to the far right is real hot.

Kiritsugu refers to himself as boku (submissive) while Shirou refers to himself as ore (alpha)

I wish Arcueid stopped infodumping on me.

>>37262789
Tsuki's world building is interesting. I wish she did it more often. The same goes for every character in tsuki.

>>37262813
Who are Fujyou?

>>37262837
Hisui and Kohaku came from them.

>>37262730
We’ll Shirou calls him a man child so of course he’s a chad while Kerry is the beta.

>>37262789
But don’t you want to hear about how vampires work for the third time? Is the same repeated info dumping in the remake?

>>37262725
Koyama has so much more to give.

umm

>>37262913
UMM

>>37262900
Yes.
You might not, but Shiki needs to know!

>>37262902
Mins posting more rare Aoko art/character material?

>>37262900
Yes. Even more info actually!

>>37262913
>>37262917
And the next day, she is 100% back to normal, kicking with the leg that was almost severed just yesterday etc.
That was the most questionable part of the game for me. It's like in cartoons, an injury from a min ago just goes away by itself.

>>37262961
muh crest healing + super church healing I guess

>>37262966
Church just stitched etc.
If crest healing was so strong, being a magi would make one almost immortal, and that doesn't seem to be the case for the most part. And I'd consider it if the crest was a full-body one as with Alice and Illiya, but it's just a hand in her case.
And the speed to full recovery is ridiculous anyway.

>>37262917
what's this?

>>37261620
Alice is the waifu for gentlemen and scholars.

>>37263303
yeah, that's why she's made for mountain boy cock.

https://youtu.be/INwgxitpOSc

>>37262950
All of it is from sadpanda/nyaa.

>>37262913
>>37262917
>>37262961
>>37262966
>>37263015
Nasu really needs to cut it with the whole MC/main heroine getting severely injured thing.
Maybe ease up on the details, that really isn't necessary.

>>37262961
>>37262966
>>37263015
It's just super crest healing, as shown through this and Flat Snark.
I guess the 5th being in the crest really makes it bonkers.
In general, the whole concept of Magic Circuits and crests and shit is just so dumb.
Like keeping them invisible lest some rando sees meme lines on your body and shit using stuff.
And the stats, the fact the stats don't matter, the fact they are in arbitrary places and work in different ways per person.
All of it is just lore for lores sake, just have them be shonen magic strong instead of inventing a system that never actually matters for plot reasons.

>>37263278
Obligatory Nasu fetish scene, everything about it makes me sick.

>>37263498
guess it's Ciel's torture church flashback? Well people can't say he's a pussy for toning it down like the rest of the remake besides the H scenes.

>>37263659
That's Mahoyo bro.

>>37263659
Dude, look at replies to the post you are commenting on, it's the scene from Mahoyo were Aoko gets surgery/stitching up at Church after fighting Touko.

>>37262913
>>37262917
imagine the smell

>>37263709
oh my bad, haven't read mahoyo.

why are japanese obssesed with homeroom

>>37263498
>>37263488
I don't mind the scene that much. What also bothered me in Mahoyo besides vampire-like healing is why the fuck do the mages want to kill each other (Alice, Aoko, Touko), especially the first two. And of course no one acts on it. Is it just edginess for the sake of it?

Time for the most important tier list rankings. For the TM H scenes. I didn't make this list so don't blame me for how bad or confusing it is. Ignore the Muv Luv H scenes in that list.

https://tiermaker.com/create/h-scene-tier-list-645693

>>37263015
Her crest is just crazy strong, and apparently the Aozakis specialise in restoration.
Also Yuika definitely does use magecraft to heal her.

>>37262813
Any ideas on what this "something" hisui was talking about? What exactly was this something that Makihisa was so afraid that he'll employ the kids of demon hunters to fend it off? Gotta love oni lores in far side.

>>37263979
Isn't it just the same old inversion? The maids are for suppression but worst to the worst if they can't control it, become too powerful, and need to be killed, a demon hunter kid would be the perfect tool

>>37263943
Her crest just rotates fast and only deals in destruction. I know it was said about Aozaki's restoration (was it mentioned elsewhere at all btw?), but apparently so does Alice, and in the end it all seems to be an excuse to make a Tom&Jerry fights scenario. Nasu just loves resurrecting MCs and will make anything for that.
Also, what did Yuika do except for the handiwork? I can't recall.

>>37264002
Didnt they have the super secret trump care at their disposal though aka Kouma? I can understand the role of Fujyou/Maids but having Nanaya still dont make sense.

>>37264075
well Kouma became a hermit after the Nanaya massacre and went into the mountains away from society I believe.

>>37264007
Yuika uses 霊糸 (whatever that is) do treat Aoko. Pic related is the restoration thing.
I'm okay with the crests keeping them alive though. To take it to the extreme, then really all the mechanics of the world are 'excuses' for the scenario.

>>37264134
In the pic it just says that Yuika is a medical treatment specialist; is it a wrong pic? Or are you about Aozaki's restorative power? But I remember that part anyway. I'm a bit confused.
But if it was that she used some spiritual (霊糸) threads, then that's that. Thanks for the reminder.

>>37264184
I posted the pic for the Aozaki 復元 bit. Yuika's specialty being in there is a coincidence.
Here's the 霊糸 for good measure.

shiki is so fucking lucky

>>37264217
I vaguely remember it now. You sure have some amazing memory to remember such details.

>>37264717
>can't have silly and overpowered vampire as gf
As any MC in all the books/movies, dodging death all the time etc. That's why we consume this shit, cause can't have it irl.

>>37262900
They made the lectures fun since Arcueid draws cute pictures in them

>>37265489
If you have to infodump, just make it entertaining in some way. Dry exposition sucks, they did that right

My favorite Mahoyo art in a while. So cute. https://twitter.com/hidariyana/status/1458217129577230338?s=21

>>37265763
Agreed, adorable and wholesome.

Venting all of my lust in Akiha's soft, white body!

>>37266645
calm down shiki

>>37263434
But that's one of my favorite Nasu cliches. It's just not Type-Moon if the protagonists doesn't shrug of serious, life-threatening injuries.

I loveMiss Blue.

https://twitter.com/Kurakuratori/status/1451509321540378630

Why was Tsukihime so successful in 2000?

Where is the Tsukihime Remake CG set? It's not in the pastebins.

>>37267969
Right time right place. VNs were a booming medium, Tsukihime had the right things for wide appeal, and it was genuinely very good.

>>37267969
People came for the huge number of art assets and stayed for the story.

>>37260357
This unironically looks more soulful than Takeuchi's Tsukihime and old Fate art. It has a 90s shounen vibe.

>>37268344
Okay now that's just silly. Just say you prefer 90s-style art.

>>37268351
The bodies in Fate and Tsukihime old VN are odd, with giraffe necks and gigantic hands. There's not amount of details too as show in these sketches.

>>37268361
The sketches have giraffe necks too.

>>37268344
>This unironically looks more soulful than Takeuchi's Tsukihime and old Fate art. It has a 90s shounen vibe.

Fate was always shounen and Tsukihime was always seinen

>>37268344
lol, these are literally just togashi designs

>>37268233
Didn't the Tsukihime remake sell better than FSN, FHA, and Mahoyo?

>>37268408
Well as far as first week sales go yes. Not sure about how lifetime sales will go when compared to F/SN. It's an incredible achievement in this day and age though at any rate.

>>37268408
This is from 2018, so it looks like it.

>>37268460
How many times has FSN been rereleased?

>>37268465
https://vndb.org/v11

Arc is my wife btw.

Fate/Stay Night + Fate/Hollow Ataraxia Set for Switch when?

Why didnt anyone tell me the original melty blood had such a good story mode? Shiki is GOAT and sion is incredibly cool and cute

>>37268597
Well, MB originally had a proper story, it was not just a fighting game. MBTL unfortunately doesn't

Will Shiki find a cure for bloodlust/vampirism? Will he be able to heal arc, akiha, satsuki and sion?

>>37268597
I’m surprised people don’t hype it up considering how good it is. It’s basically a mini-Nasu VN in a good playing game with Re-Act. One of my favorite fighting game experiences. Sion is also a great character. And it also made me like Shiki more with hearing him voice act for the first time in a game

>>37268638
I was disappointed by how MBTL felt almost nothing like the old Melty Blood, having short scenarios that made literally no sense like Shiki beating the shit out of Noel and killing Vlov before meeting Arc.
But then it actually feels it has a proper scenario that feels like the retarded comedy from the OG Melty Blood, but it's only the Boss Rush mode.
I wouldn't say MBTL was a bad game, but it still feels like a letdown. After less than a week I didn't feel like playing anymore.

>>37268716
Yeah, it's a shame the story didn't have more going on.
In the book that game with the limited edition release, Nasu describes it as being like Act Cadenza, and talks about intending to continue the series, so we'll just have to hope for the future.

warachia is so cool, he's the best part of melty blood

>>37268597
>>37268638
What are Nasu's most underrated works?

>>37268716
>After less than a week I didn't feel like playing anymore.
To be fair, I felt that way about the original MB too after I beat the story. Fuck fighting games.

>>37268793
Camelot and Babylonia from F/GO

>>37268853
>Camelot and Babylonia from F/GO

Why do they get so much hate?

>>37268853
If Babylonia is even 1/10th like the anime, it's fucking shit and retarded.

>>37268878
Sakurai gave F/GO a bad name by wanking her self-inserts so people refuse to believe Nasu can write something good for the gacha

>>37268949
hey, I liked little Rider.

>>37268950
>Sakurai gave F/GO a bad name
FGO gave FGO a bad name by being retarded vapid garbage.

>こんにちは、志貴君

>>37269063
Why is he so likeable?

*sniff*

>>37269073
dapper

>>37268793
DDD. Shame there's no good tl for eops.

>>37269063
I like that face.

>>37269076
splurt

>>37269081
>DDD. Shame there's no good tl for eops.

What's it like to be an eop tm fan?

>>37268670
He'll stare at them for a really long time until he sees the "concept" of vampirism and kill it to cure them.

>>37268949
What bothered you so much about it?

just stay home and fuck your little sister everything will be fine

>>37269149
Gudao is a horrific main character with no personality that everyone loves for no reason.

>>37269161
If that's all the avatar's presence is virtually nonexistent in the game by comparison. Still terrible, but easy to ignore most of the time.

>>37269121
check all of them, mold the final result in your imagination, ponder about the alternative meanings and move on to the second sentence after 10 minutes.

>>37268793
Tsuki no Sango and Kagetsu

>>37269210
I can't ignore such a major flaw like that. Gudao is so bad that he makes self-insert protagonists in generic galge look deep. Much of the plot was dependent on "lol I Gudao is so cool I'll tag only!", so no it's a fatal flaw.

>>37269227
>lol I Gudao is so cool I'll tag only!
Christ, I fucked that up. I meant "tag along" and omit the random "I".

>>37269227
This infuriates me the most.
Shirou had to work hard to earn Saber's trust.
On the other hand, everyone immediately loves Gudao because he's a nice guy.
Fuck off Nasu.

>>37268597
MB is my favorite part of TM.
The story, the arcade mode, the manga and audio dramas. So good.

>>37269264
I've read nukige that have protagonists with more personality than Gudao. It's incredible how fucking shallow and empty they made him. I guess all gatchashit is like this?

>>37269264
why do you care so much about a fictional character liking another fictional character?

>>37269264
>Shirou had to work hard to earn Saber's trust
This never happened, Shirou almost never cared about gaining Saber's trust in most of the fate route

>>37269264
Just in Fate route. In the other two routes he shields her and be nice with her and earns her trust.
Guda is bad, no denying that, but the servants trusting him was never a part of the problem and most of the time makes sense given the situation.

>>37269296
Seems like Key's upcoming gachage will have a real MC.
Maeda > Nasu.

>>37269081
>>37269219
>>37268853
All good answers. Babylonia in particular is underrated because it takes itself less serious than most other Nasu works but it actually has a good tone and is a well constructed story.

>>37269350
Guda is bad because there's not much to him as a charcter but unlike Manaka in Prototype Fragments he doesn't compeletely ruin the story he's in by being always the center of attention

>>37269073
Black men are just likeable

>>37269355
Is that thing actually coming out?

>>37269376
>he doesn't compeletely ruin the story he's in by being always the center of attention
You can't be serious

>>37269397
Yes it's in the closed beta stage now.

>>37269376
>by being always the center of attention
That never happened. He is merely like a moving camera and the focus is on everything else.

>>37269329
I'm talking about that cheesy bullshit about swords and sheaths. It was nice.
FGO has nothing like that because Gudao is the embodiment of emptiness.

>>37269453
>Gudao is the embodiment of emptiness
Sounds like Gudao could reach the route.

>>37269461
The route to deez nutz lmao.

Gudao is one of the most important character in the entire verse, you guys aren't ready for the surprise.

>>37269461
Quite literally.
There's nothing Gudao can't do.

>>37269227
Yeah the anime is worse since it gives more of a spotlight to him and has lazy writing like with Quetz just joining his side because he likes him. Or him flirting with Jaguarman to get her to join her side. It’s pretty embarrassing writing from Nasu that made the anime a slog to watch. And the whole ending sequence with him moving like a servant all of a sudden and given a dagger out of nowhere to defeat Tiamat with was awful. The whole ending of the anime was terrible with king Hassan doing nothing but eating lahmu. If this is what the peak of FGO is then I’m glad I never gave a shit about it besides just watching the anime to see what all the hype was about.

>>37269329
>Shirou almost never cared about gaining Saber's trust in most of the fate route

Why did Saber trust Shirou so much?

>>37269287
>MB is my favorite part of TM

Why?

>>37269549
Yeah the ending of the anime was weird because it forces the spotlight into the nameless MC when actually in the game the spotlight was on Gilgamesh killing Tiamat with a full-power Enuma Elish, separating heaven and earth and getting somewhat of a "redemption arc" after being an asshole in F/SN.
>If this is what the peak of FGO is then
It was the peak for a long time, now pretty much everyone agrees the peak is LB6.

>>37269511
dude literally has the root as his wife... nothing can stop him. he's coming for the earth soon.

>>37269613
CCC exist fucking retard.

>>37269641
Not canon

>>37266963
>>37267048
>>37269076
Period correct Aoko.

>>37269505
k y s

>>37269652
of course you can't read it brainless faggot.

>>37269668
nice projection little man

>>37269562
I had the most fun with.
The characters, story, humor, gameplay, music, art. Loved everything.

>>37269549
You pretty much typed out why I hated it too. I'm not going to waste my time actually playing a gatcha game, so I figured I would waste my time watching the anime of one of the supposed good parts to see if it was any good. It obviously wasn't. Now to be fair, I'm sure the anime changed stuff and made things worse, but the core of the story itself is pretty awful (plus the game has bad gameplay as well) so all that did was confirm for me that FGO is garbage.

>>37269505
this image hurts my brain how am i supposed to read it.

Last Encore is the only really shitty piece of media Nasu was ever written.
Everything else is good.

>>37269788
What was the core of the story?

>>37268878
I don't hate them but they are overrated

>>37269876
Servants love Gudao for no reason and team up with him to defeat beast things controlled by an antagonist that also has no personality.

>>37268716
The music is still good though. Different, but good.

>>37269505
That Shirou is clearly after HG war.

>>37269876
(You) and (You)r cute kohai have to go to ancient Babylonia to retrieve a Holy Grail.
As the story goes on it actually turns into the tale of wise king Gilgamesh killing a primordial goddess and experiencing the fall of Mesopotamia, as well as his relationship with Enkidu.
One of the things that make the gacha chapters written by Nasu better than the rest is that he always ends up focusing in characters with actual personalities instead of (You), like with Camelot focusing on Bedivere's returning the holy sword to the king or LB6 where at the end is mostly about Castoria and Oberon.

>>37269505
Why do they turn black?

>>37269867
I liked last encore

>>37270091
I'll beat the shit out of you

I just finished watching fate/zero and now I want more, what should I watch now? I've searched it on google but there's several different answers

>>37270140
prisma illya

>>37270140
ubw by ufotable

>>37269867
Last Encore wasn't that bad, only Nero fights sucked. I bet the original script was better too.

>>37270140
Case files follows the story of Waver after the grail war but it’s more of a mystery show and not that good. UBW would be the best show to continue with.

>>37270454
>and not that good
Delete this. It was not as good as the novels but still fun.

>>37269788
Yeah, I was worried that Nasu didn’t know how to write good stories anymore with how bad Babylonia was but TsukiR made me have faith in him again even if it’s a remake it still has good original scenes and characters and kept the spirit of Shiki and the old charcters. With how awful Guda is I’m glad Shiki is a good main character that I even like more than his OG self due to the voice acting and his personality being more pronounced. And with more scenes with him in general. The future is bright after FGO is over

>>37269867
>>37270419
It was fine as an Extra "sequel" as unlike CCC and Extella it builds on Extra original themes but it probably needed a few more episodes like 1 more per floor and the the production was inconsistent

>>37270465
I guess it was fine but it’s a pretty steep fall after how good the first episode was. Probably the best first episode from any fate media followed up by a dull second episode. At least Gray is cute and I want to read the novels. Besides that the anime isn’t anything special to me at least. Reines and luvia save it too.

>>37270245
That's the loli kissing spin off right?
>>37270260
>>37270454
So UBW by ufotable and I shouldn't touch the deen anime?

>>37270521
If you’re fully invested in Fate then it wouldn’t be a bad idea. It still spoils stuff from HF and UBW so it’s not a good idea to watch it first for FSN anime. Isn’t there a cut for DEEN that takes out all the spoilers for future routes or did I make that up?

>>37270558
I'm pretty invested, I hope the rest is a good as fate zero.
Since it spoils stuff I'll watch it later, thanks.

just read the VN

>>37270140
after ubw watch the heavens feel movies

>>37270140
>>37270521

aside from fate, watch the kara no kyoukai/garden of sinners movies, the ending of the third heavens feel movie makes much more sense after watching those

>>37270633
>>37270650
Alright, thanks.
>>37270627
Planning on doing it if I really enjoy the other shows.

>>37270603
Yeah watching the UBW anime after zero is a good idea. Have fun.

>>37270902
>cute
>funny
>physically 12
hmmm

>>37270479
It's not. It treats Extra as if 6/8ths of it didn't happen.

>>37271201
The main difference is that Hakunon lost to Twice at the end

>>37268597
As a Tsukihime fan back in the day Melty Blood truly was a magical celebration of it. A shame Type Lumina gutted all of it.

>>37270902
uuuooh...

>>37270902
now this is a ciel i can get behind

I did not expect this quote to come out so soon.

>>37270080
Now that I think about, it's a bit understandable.
I'm have a normal white skin and the hair is a bit on a blond side/ But if I spend a real lot of time in the sun during summer, my hair turns light gold (not white obviously but), while mine skin turns very dark. Not unlike those transformations.

I need your advice, /tmg/.
I'm a TM oldfag, so I've read through all the main works (although I'm terrible with extras, so I've missed Tsuki plus and Mahoyo extra the first time I played).
But I haven't played any of the Fate/Extra series. At the time of release I didn't play it cause of the game's console (never owned any). But these days I believe it can be emulated.
Are Extras worth playing? My first impression from what I've read is a bit skeptical, but I want to hear your opinion.

>>37272140
As someone who has never played it, my opinion is a hard "no" purely because the gameplay is so trash. I guess you could use cheats or something to make it less of a chore.

I can't believe I feel bad for Angra.

>>37271999
Nasu's guro fetish slips out sometimes.

LMAO.

>>37272146
That's how I see it as well, and FFVIII graphics in 2010 don't help (it was hot in 2000 ofc), but I want to hear all kind of opinions.

Angra is quite shameless.

>>37272216
>>37272368
Angra and Bazette arguing is one of the best parts of HA.

>>37272378
He isn't arguing in 37272216, tho. That's just a thought.

>>37272313
The gameplay is pretty irritating, especially in the original game. The bgm made it bearable for me.
If you don't like the idea of playing the games, the scenarios of the original and CCC are recorded in the log books. No scans exist though.

Awww...

>>37271999
>>37272162
>>37272216
>>37272368
>>37272452
Their dynamic is exactly why HA is still my favorite TM work. Nasu just snapped. I wish I could replay it.

>>37272492
>I wish I could replay it.
What's stopping you?

>>37272452
Not your blog, faggot.

Do we allow blogposts?

>>37272446
I generally would rather not play (even MB was a bit of a struggle), but that depends on the itself. I enjoyed most Rance games and was okay with Utawarerumono, so...
>log books
Do the those those come with the games? Also, is the scenario itself worthwhile (is the story good, or does it just ride on the Fate hype wave), is mine main concern. Afaik, it is disconnected with Fate or Tsuki worlds

>>37269624
Nice self-deception.

>>37268716
>>37269945
MBTL was a huge disappointment, but at least its funding UNIB content I guess

>>37272560
We allow cooming posts, so there's no way to stoop even lover. He just post screenshots from OG games with some commentary. Quite harmless imo

Which protagonist suffers from the worst mind-fuck experiences and mental-horror across the entirety of TM. From gachashit to kino?

>>37272764
Has to be Shiki. Shirou has his moments but our boy Shiki being stuck in bed for days wil going crazy can't be topped.

>>37272764
Gachashit doesn't have a protagonist so that doesn't count. Probably Shiki since he's constantly trying to suppress his raging murder boner and even has a personification of his murder boner in Nanaya.

>>37272764
Gachafag theoretically goes through a lot with planet bleaching, incineration, mash dying, experiencing different cultures where humans are used like commodities/farmed and eldritch entities. Except that it's never given proper gravity whatsoever and thus feels basically like a joke. It's part of why the writing is so bad and it's hard to take completely seriously imo. Servants and treatment are implied to be holding their mind together(lol) and they will probably have a complete breakdown(hopefully) by the end of fgo but even if it does happen I feel like they completely lost the opportunity for gravitas.

>>37272560
I rather have him do it on /vn/ than /tmg/ that's for sure

why is Reona so bad bros

>>37272813
Nothing beats Roa possessing him. In general being subject to vampire bullshit like Arc wanting to literally eat him on an existential level is overdose. Getting dropped into Vlovs morgue/dining hall is straight up something out of berserk. Shiki technically experienced the eclipse first hand by reliving Noels tragedy and managed to break out of it. In the bad end he exists as a disembodied spirit within Noels eyes where he relives progressively more terrible experiences for eternity. That barely covers the psychological stuff he goes through over the course of Tsukihime and doesn't get into his murder impulses and the themes about trying to remain a good person while being surrounded by death, mindrape and carnage. The dude literally watched his entire clan massacred before his eyes to where he creates an image of death in his assailants form, gets mindraped, loses his identity, the shitshow with SHIKI, etc. Remake also seems to set up that he was involved in a vampire attack/tragedy when he was a child. Dudes entire existence is described as being deprived to where his very past self was stolen from him. Aoko said it best, Shiki's eyes bring him hardship. Even his relationships with the heroines are kinda-lowkey horrifying experiences that he has to work for to get the good end. Dude gets murdered by them if he slips up some. Being Shiki is fucking suffering. Just seeing the world in a constant state of death and the illusion that everything is about to collapse is probably good enough to say he's drawn the super short end of the protagonist stick. And then to top it all off, the guy literally died a few times, has a fucked up lifespan/lifeforce, has to constantly see his own impending death(which Aoko admits would drive even her over the edge) and seemingly continues to indulge a life of fighting vampires and all the horror that implies. It's actually amazing he ends up as he does. His resilience is ridiculous. It would have been easier if he just gave up and became an insane killer.

>>37273032
Gook vocals. Though I liked her songs in TsukiRe lmao.

>>37273065
Damn, when you lay it all out like that... that's pretty rough.

>>37273103
I probably missed shit honestly. The great thing is Tsukihime actually treats all this shit like it matters because it does. It's meant to be horrifying and set the atmosphere. I guess I forgot to mention Shiki has to walk in on Noel fucking going torturewhore on vampires and decide whether or not to participate. Guy is no virgin to extremely fucked up scenes.

>>37273103
Same wall of text anon.
>>37273132
I just realized that the final length of Ciel True Ending is similar energy to Berserk Eclipse too. Not nearly as 'severe' but ultimately Shiki is just fucking helpless against a god and forced to a point of exhaustion and mental strain where he can only watch his beloved being tortured by someone he also cares for. In this case Ciel is being murdered over and over excruciatingly right before his very eyes. His power of love moment right after was kino but objectively what a fucking experience.

>>37273184
I can't wait for this.

>>37273184

>>37273065
>In the bad end he exists as a disembodied spirit within Noels eyes
All the bad endings are pretty shitty ways to go out, but that one stuck out to me as a fate much worse than death. That's some high concept shit

>>37273184
ps4?

>>37273191
When Shiki defeats Kohaku in Melty... does she reward him?

>>37273207
Yeah that's super fucked up. CunnyNoel end is scary.

>>37273175
>Ciel True Ending is similar energy to Berserk Eclipse
What are you even talking about.
I guess you can draw some parallels if you really wanted to, but "same energy", really? I'm sorry, but no way. In the route, basically two of his immortal gfs are fighting, as they often do, and nobody really has much malicious intent in truth anyways. He might be upset about Ciel getting whacked, but everybody knows it has no consequences to her but pain, and she lived through many time worse stuff in Church. There is no betrayal at all, and all that's happening is the consequences of his questionable actions.
The "energy" is completely different and is nothing alike. Rather, Noel/Ciel's flashback has much more of it, but the final fight is not at all.

>>37273065
And yet he manages to be a good person and have a positive outlook on the world by enjoying whatever time he has.
The vn holds no punches when demonstrating how much shit he gets, from being mindfucked by cursed blood, vampires and other shit to having to murder people he knows to getting home at 2am all bloody and fucked up and having to explain to his family what the hell he's up to. I played Tsukihime recently and I honestly really appreciated him as a main character.

>>37273232
>Not nearly as 'severe' but ultimately Shiki is just fucking helpless against a god and forced to a point of exhaustion and mental strain where he can only watch his beloved being tortured by someone he also cares for.
I agree Noel flashback is definitely more apt but I see the similarities. I wasn't really thinking of betrayal but I think you could argue it since someone he trusted and loves has suddenly 180'd. Obviously it's not as grave but I said that.

>>37272140
EXTRA is decent, but CCC is top tier, it's one of my favorite Type-Moon stories. I'm biased because I love Sakura tho.

>>37273224
HagNoel is pretty scary too. Her bad ends are her dismembering our boy over the course of the night. I'm hot for teacher so her raping him seems reasonable given her personality if you ask me.

>>37273366
i wouldnt mind getting raped by noel desu

>>37273399
I'm still hoping for a Noel route. Shiki can fix her bros. He's her last chance.

>>37273279
>someone he trusted and loves has suddenly 180
You are talking about Shiki, right (I know you're not)? Because although he was unreasonably forgiven the first time he killed Arcuied, he did it again while not even being possessed by his impulse. Not to mention that Arc being weakened so much is his fault to begin with.
There is nothing "sudden" about Arc and Ciel fighting, it more sudden if they don't do it. And the first time they fought is because of Ciel' stubbornness and Shiki's stupidity.

i wanna fuck Trimmau

>>37273516
I know you want to blame Shiki for it but the whole scenario is a combination of both of their actions. It's an unfortunate situation. From Shiki's perspective, the whole thing devolving into an end of life scenario where funny vamp Arc is actually about to kill everyone is definitely not what he expected when he bumped into her. Arc vs Ciel in the end is not benign or portrayed as such. They play on how anguishing it is supposed to be.

>>37273600
Not that anon but Shiki was at least 90% to blame for what happened there. There is no excuse for his behavior.

>>37273600
>I know you want to blame Shiki for it but the whole scenario is a combination of both of their actions.
It's 90% Shiki though. From the very start he cocked the bomb that Arc is.
>not what he expected when he bumped into her
When bumped into her, may be not, but when he slashed her throat, while she already was struggling to keep her shit together, he should have considered such scenario a definite possibility.
Well, for the fact that he does such a braindead deed, after feeling all the guilt for killing her for the first time and thinking about how he loves her and being told that she is in a bad state (for the reason only he himself and Arc knows), I blame Nasu more than Shiki, cause that's just too ridiculous to be plausible. If a person makes such decision, he needs euthanasia or something.

>>37273678
>>37273632
I don't think even then he could predict she'd turn into what she did or behave in such a cruel manner. It's such a markedly different presence than what he knew. Even Arcueid is regretful of her own actions in the end so I think that's fair to say.
As for the 90% I just disagree. I think there is plenty of blame to go around and that it's more of a regretful situation. His mistake was definitely slashing her throat but we know he didn't actually have any malicious intent other than to separate from her pin.

>>37272140
I don't think it's worth the effort unless you REALLY want more Fate stuff. The story is a pretty standard grail war against other masters that is told in the most standard/boring way. The MC is also a self-insert so it's hard for me to really care about what's going on. If you want to learn more about Nero and Tamano than its worth it. And cheating through the combat and speeding things up is ideal.

>>37272764
I find Shirou losing his memory and having dementia to be scary to me over Shiki at times and him having to stab himself in his palm in order to stay conscious. The VN does a good job of showing how fast time progresses with the sudden music changes and time speeding up for Shirou.

>>37273032
Her songs for TsukiR are fine, I like that they incorporate it into the game with piano leitmotifs and direct references to Arc's OP done on the piano.

>>37273184
red garden better have mini-games whenever you play with Kohaku. Or just having Re-Act in the game would be kino.

>>37273800
Kohaku opens up a trap door and out pops an arcade cabinet. She'd instantly be everyone's favorite.

>>37273678
>>37273769
To be honest it's even worse than that. The fact that he somehow forgot that cutting inflicts absolute death is beyond ridiculous. Face it, the mushroom's finger came down from the sky and touched Shiki's head to make him do the worst thing he possibly could with the worst timing imaginable.

As far as Arc's treatment of Ciel is concerned, it's hard to take seriously because even though she kind of went overboard, Ciel was asking for it.

>>37273848
i love my wife Arc very much

surprised this isn't a bigger meme.

>>37273848
I love how Shiki states that even Roa is shitting himself at Arc going ballistic

>>37273866
Shiki's brain is already spaghetti, also that sequence is fucking weird.

>>37273866
how new

>>37273866
Wait but this doesn't make any sense. Why is he complaining about needing to make more meat sauce even though there's excess spaghetti? If anything he should be happy to get the extra sauce so he can restore balance to the ingredients.

>>37273878
post old spaghetti tsukhime memes then haven't seen any of them honestly.

>>37273848
What Nasu wanted to convey I think is that it mimics any situation where a person lashes out and immediately regrets it. Especially in cases where the results are worse than imagined. There wasn't any malice there and it can be chalked it up to him being so conditioned to think she's invincibility incarnated that it wouldn't possibly do anything significant.(And honestly she revived moments later so...). It's obviously a terrible action that is more symbolic and meaningful than he realized in that instant but I can understand how it occurred.
As for Ciel, I think it was portrayed heavily and serious(except when Arc flicks her which was kinda cute and derpy) and that they didn't shy away on the cruelty being performed. Granted that Ciel just previously killed her so you may not care about the torture but I don't feel like it lessened the severity of the scene.