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Because she can kill the universe around her to give her an advantage.

Oh, Nanaya's too far away? Kill the distance. Nanaya is too close for comfort? Kill the concept of him being near you. He's moving around too much? Kill the concept of him BEING ABLE TO DODGE.

>>3670480

Void Shiki, so plothax.

>>3670480
you sure you're not exaggerating?

>>3670480
I'm pretty sure she's never actually done those things.

>>3670502

Only partially. Dunno if she can actually kill the concept of a person's movement. Wouldn't put it past her.

>>3670509

She killed the distance between her and her enemy before.

>>3670513
>She killed the distance between her and her enemy before.

when was this again?

>>3670532
In the novel obviously.
Read your books kids.

>>3670543
no it wasn't, there's no mention about killing distance, she reachs Araya faster than he believed and that it's, no mention about distance killing.

it's more like, who is more suited for the instant kill attack? assasin or warrior?. It's pretty fucking obvious.

>>3670455
You don't happen to have more of Nanaya Shiki's Character sprites do you?

>>3670553
Assassin if and only if they manage to get an attack-from-behind bonus. Which likely won't happen when their opponent is aware of them, ergo the warrior actually has a better chance, given that a warrior is typically stronger, and has a bigger, more hurtful weapon with a larger critical threat range.

>>3670563
we are talking about the fucking MEoDP users, all that shit doesn't matter guy. Who is more likely to land a hit before the other and also evade the incoming hits.

>>3670570
In this regard I think Nanaya has the edge as an Assassin. Especially against None-void Ryougi.

>>3670563
you're one of those A KATANA BEATS A KNIFE people aren't you?

people only seem to take the range into consideration. what about that fact that a knife is quicker?

>>3670570

Ryougi Shiki. She has better stats than Nanaya, longer weapon reach, much faster than him and could erase him without touching him.

>>3670579
yeah, sure, too bad that the hax personality isn't going to come back after kara no kyoukai.

>>3670585

There was no need for her to come back, and she's still there for fuck's sake. She's just asleep within.

>>3670578

Ryougi Shiki has both knife and katana.

>>3670570

Then I think it depends on whether or not

1. Ryougi is armed with a knife or a sword
2. Which Nanaya Shiki, exactly

There's unfortunately 3 Nanaya Shikis so far.
1. Nightmare Nanaya of Kagetsu Tohya and MBAC [DOESN'T HAVE MYSTIC EYES OF DEATH PERCEPTION]
2. TATARI Nanaya of MB/R-A and MBAA (Kinda has it, not fully evolved though)
3. Tohno Shiki going bloodline mode

If Ryougi has a sword and we're saying Void Ryougi, it's instant loss for Nanaya in any situation.

>>3670591
ryougi shiki sucks with the knife (compared to "flash sheat" skills) and it's only taiga lv with katana. Only third personal+katana wins, and that's pretty much overdoing it.

>>3670616
>it's only taiga lv with katana

Under normal situations. When she fought Araya, she was out for blood. Besides, she's already superior to Nanaya in every stat that she can fight head on with monsters like Fujino and Araya.

>>3670638
>Besides, she's already superior to Nanaya in every stat

What about in awesome. I think we have a tie.

>it's only taiga lv with katana

Taiga was considered a prodigy. Your argument is invalid.

>>3670645
Nanaya is too one dimensional to be awesome.

>>3670638
seem's like you didn't read the katana+third personality wins. Also Akiha's instant kill eyes>Fujino's instant kill eyes, at least before the claivoyance shit

>>3670654
He's hardly one dimensional, if we're talking about Shiki.

>>3670661

Stop using second hand information and read the novels to know that her "Void Shiki" in Paradox Spiral is what Araya calls "Serious mode/Battle mode" that Shiki gains when she's using a katana.

>Also Akiha's instant kill eyes>Fujino's instant kill eyes

What, a body/neck being bended isnt instant kill?

>>3670678
it's still install kill but inferior in range to "All the fucking school it's covered by the origami" and also "I don't need to actually look at you, just knowing were you are it's enough to fill a room with origami"

>>3670676
I thought we were talking his Melty Blood clone.

>>3670691

Fujino can just twist the whole place to destroy her target. She doesnt need to know where they are.

>>3670701
twisting everything at random can fail, and that pretty much happened, its doesn't cover the whole area like water would fill a bottle.

>>3670711

It only failed because she was just lashing out instead of using it as a valid strategy.

>>3670719
also, isn't protecting the user the whole time.

>>3670729

She doesnt need defence with that kind of power. And she gets even stronger.

Shiki would win.

Durr.

>>3670455
The different between their eyes is that nanaya is a knife, while ryougi is a gun.

>>3670750
and that's why ryogi defeted her, that shit wouldn't have worked in Akiha unless it's pretty hax ceiling jump which ryougi doesn't seem able to do

>>3670766
The difference between their eyes is that Nanaya sees the end of a concept's existence, and can't kill things with no concept of termination and has difficulty with things whose termination is so unlikely as to not occur at any time (Arcueid at night, particularly under a full moon). Ryougi sees the origin of that concept, and has difficulty killing things that are very old (Araya's arm). Nanaya sees points, Ryougi doesn't.

Otherwise, they function the same: any concept struck will fall apart.

>>3670841

Technically they function exactly opposite.

>>3670871
They FUNCTION the same on the target, in that the target dies.

>>3670881

Function =/= effect!

It's just semantics though.

>>3670783
>pretty hax ceiling jump which ryougi doesn't seem able to do

Ryougi could just sonic boom into Akiha's face and slice her. Or just kill her Origami. She's vastly superior to Nanaya.

>>3670841

Not this "He sees the end and she sees the origin" fan bullshit idea again.

It's only stated that Ryougi Shiki can see colors while Tohno sees lines and dots. Their eyes see different things but not this bullshit "End and Origin".

Origin = Akasha if you still dont get it.

>>3670917
I know you're right, as I realized way before your response, but I still want to argue with you, because otherwise I have to admit that I'm wrong.

>>3670976
But that IS how their eyes work. They don't see exactly the same thing. If they did, Ryougi would have no trouble at all seeing and cutting Araya's lines.

What about Satsujinki

>>3671022

Stealthier, more skilled at instakilling, has more evolved eyes than normal Tohno Shiki.

Runs a deeper risk of head explodium.

Better assassin, probably no better in normal combat except with a wider concept of death.

>>3671022
Nobody knows enough about Satsujinki to give a fair grade. He's fairly stronger than most Church knights by the time he kills Einnasche that's for sure.

ryougi has like 14 different types of h4x

shiki has his eyes and his inbreeding thats it.

ryougi wins but honestly she'd get glanned.

Thats why none of the villains in tsukihime were chicks.

>>3671050
THE POWER OF INCEST IS STRONG IN SHIKI

>>3671050
White Len is the closest thing to a female villain. And she gets glanded so hard she makes her own Shiki to get delicious mana from.

Ryogi can move faster than a bullet

or something

>>3671088
I'm loving it.

hmm

Type-Moon, Shoenen with porn.

So wait wait wait
Can Void Shiki kill distance or not?

>>3673312

SHounen with porn sounds like a winning recipe alright.

>>3671022

Is Satsujinki what they called Shikiller in the Ciel-sensei clips?