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The year is 1999. The Soviet Union has not collapsed, but relations between USA and USSR have begun to thaw. Five of the best and brightest young people from each nation are chosen to participate in a cooperative mission: life on a new, international space station, Hope.

Three weeks into the six month mission, Hope's crew lose contact with Earth. One look at the Earth's new thick cloud cover and complete radio silence confirms the worst -- global thermonuclear war has taken place. The ten astronauts are stranded in space, with limited food and water supplies and steadily rising tensions between the American and the Russian crew members. For all they know, they might be the last ten members of the human race.

Plot points might include returning to Earth, discovering the cause of the war, a fight amongst the crew, people knowing more than they should, and possibly other survivors.

Would you read it?

>> No.3668311

Under certain circumstances yes, but it would probably have some Russian astronaut that looks like 2 year old girl which would bother me, so no.

>> No.3668329

I'd read fucking anything that isn't the same typical "highschool boy gets amazing power", "highschool boy finds girl" or more often "highschool boy gets amazing power and finds girl" story.

>> No.3668340

I'd try to read it, as it sounds my kinda thing.

>> No.3668338

Go post your ideas for animu in /a/.

>> No.3668344

>>3668338
It's not animu, you twat.
I'm seriously contemplating writing this, because that was the best dream I've had in a long time and I think it would make a great book (or book lite, aka visual novel). I can't draw or make music, but coding is easy shit and I'm a halfway decent writer.

Well, really I just wanted to know if anyone else thought this idea was any good.

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3668343

I just ask for one thing besides a non-shitty story.

Cool looking diagrams and maps.

>> No.3668353

>>3668344
Just keep in mind astronauts / cosmonauts aren't young or anything. You didn't even say if it would have ero scenes though so I'm just assuming, but if it doesn't then it sounds interesting.

>> No.3668369

>>3668353
I'm aware of that. And I wasn't planning ero, since I can't write porn without sounding worse than Nasu.

I was going to place most of the cast in their twenties or so. I realize that's the low end of the real astronaut age spectrum.

>> No.3668373

>>3668369
Fuck Nasu do it faggot nograv sex

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SPOILERS: THEY THEN FIND OUT THERE IS NOTHING LEFT ON EARTH BUT DELICIOUSNESS.

>> No.3668385

>>3668343
I would assume that if I manage to write a good story, someone would be willing to make cool looking maps and diagrams for me. Still, that's the least important part of a visual novel (for me).

>> No.3668387

>>3668353

lol, Zero-G fucking would be kinda hilarious. Although probably not very sanitary what with... ahem.. globs of "biological matter" floating about.

Sounds like a pretty cool idea, OP. The only thing I'm not sure would work and be believable is explaining how they get back planetside, as most space operations involved some sort of help on the ground for guidance, recovery, etc.

>> No.3668401

Kids don't know how to pilot spaceships, bro.

Also, everyone on earth wouldn't die from something like that instantly (actually, most people wouldn't) - if they are the 'brightest young people from each nation' they should be smart enough to know this much.

>> No.3668400

>>3668387
If I actually do anything with this, the first thing I'll research is the workings of IRL space stations. Probably focusing on Mir, since the ISS is newer and might work differently.

Thanks.

>> No.3668411

holy shit this isnt even remotely /jp/ related

Reported.

>> No.3668412

>>3668385
Then write, my good man. And please do some research about spaceflight and all that before pumping out plot devices that defy physics.

>> No.3668415

Well a non-ero story sounds better anyway. But maybe you should have a joke route where you find out one guys 13 year old sister is a stowaway and the space station gets attacked and boarded by sex-addicted aliens.

>> No.3668425

>>3668415
Stop being a pussy and just make this the main story.

>> No.3668426

>>3668411
VNs aren't /jp/ related? K.

>> No.3668427

I already read something like that. Probably from C. Clarke or Asimov, can't remember. But they were on the Moon. Or Mars.

>> No.3668434

>>3668426
This is a novel, not a VN
You never even mentioned VISUALS, or for that matter OPTIONS

>> No.3668439

>>3668401
Read the thread.
I'm thinking complete destruction of the world's population centers, a loss of power worldwide, and anarchy among countryside survivors, who will all have contracted severe radiation poisoning if they leave fallout shelters. It's a Dr. Strangelove style doomsday scenario, with much more fallout than we might expect today- blame it on a decade extra arms racing if you must.

>>3668427
I've probably read something like this, too. I dreamt it last night, and I'm not going to claim that my dreams are particularly original.

>>3668412
Well, yeah.

>> No.3668441

>>3668434
I wasn't the OP, but if someone told you they had an idea for a visual novel I'm sure your first question would be "What's the story?" rather than "Explain the background images and what the characters would look like."

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>> No.3668450

>>3668441
But VNs are only differentiated from novels by the visuals , porn, and options, so...

>> No.3668453

>>3668434
>>3668441
I am the OP, and you've summed it up pretty well for me.

>> No.3668454

Also, why the hell would they come back to Earth knowing it's covered in radiation? Going back would basically be deciding long-term suicide and retard-babies. Who the fuck is that stupid?

>> No.3668455

>>3668450
Christ, he's just asking about the idea, who cares what it looks like for now?

>> No.3668457

>>3668441
Actually, I've thought of writing a VN, but the actual challenge really is a challenge of the accompanying art in my opinion.

I could probably churn out 4 really good routes in a month, but getting it timed to art, getting someone capable of drawing, etc, that's a rough process.

>> No.3668461

Will one of them have drillhair? It's worthless without drillhair.

>> No.3668464

>>3668454
>I demand realism in my science fiction visual novels!

>> No.3668466

>>3668461

>> No.3668465

>>3668454
There are limited resources in space, genius.

>> No.3668463

>>3668457
>really good routes

You mean mediocre generic moeshit.

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>>3668465
The sun would like a word with you.

>> No.3668474

>>3668470
The sun is limited.

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>>3668474
>implying the sun is limited concerning humans

>> No.3668481

>>3668464
That isn't me nitpicking about realism - radiation is an obvious thing after global thermonuclear warfare. ಠ_ಠ

If you want to play pretend and say nukes don't radiate shit then hey that means 90% of the worlds population is still alive - as nuke's actual impact area from ONLY the explosion is not all that horrible...bad, but not OH GOD THE WORLDS OVER.

The reason they are something people worry about is because of the radiation, not the explosion. Remove the radiation and it's not even a nuke anymore, just a large-scale bomb.

>> No.3668490

>>3668481
This might surprise you, but humans in the present day have the means to survive in heavily irradiated environments for short times (say, for foraging for supplies).

>> No.3668499

>>3668479
It is. Humans are going to be around for a long time.

>> No.3668508

>>3668481
Shelters motherfucker. During the cold war, everyone dug shelters.

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>>3668499
That's what the Dinosaurs said.

>> No.3668522

>>3668513
The dinosaurs said no such thing, they were incapable of complex speech or intricate thought.

>> No.3668525

>>3668499

>humans
>200,000 years and counting

>sun
>4 billion years and counting

Yeah I think we have a NICE LONG TIME to worry about finding new resources before the sun runs out.

>> No.3668530

So anyway, would you read it?

And feel free to point out any problems with feasibility you spot. I don't know much about the practicality of nuclear weapons and my area of emphasis isn't astronomy, fascinating though it may be.

>> No.3668538

>>3668530

I will read it when you make it.

>> No.3668541

>>3668513
The dinosaurs died out because they became too lewd.

>> No.3668542

>>3668530
Depends on your story telling skills and execution. Write a few paragraphs and we will be able to judge.

And start getting a drawfag.

>> No.3668554

Plot twist: The thermonuclear war was not between the countries. Russia raised R'lyeh and awakened Cthulhu, noticing too late that it was not a superweapon nor could it be trifled with. Cultists in Middle East are near summoning Shub-Niggurath, Elder Thing activity began in Antarctica. A Colder War: the VN.

>> No.3668564

>>3668525
we will all die from complications of the moon flying off it's orbit and into space long before the sun dies off

>> No.3668565

>>3668554
I remember reading this story.

>> No.3668572

>I don't know much about the practicality of nuclear weapons

Alright just trust me on this then:
When you're going to mention nukes in your story, say "cobalt bomb".

>> No.3668579

>>3668542
>Write a few paragraphs and we will be able to judge.
Plotting comes before writing. There's no point of writing something that I'm just going to change later.
And by plotting I also mean character design, etc, because I haven't done anything of the sort. I just had this great dream, wrote it down, went to class, came home, posted on /jp/. No creative process here.
>And start getting a drawfag.
Not bothering with this until I have something to show. Every /jp/ project makes the mistake of getting together a crew before they know what they're going to do, and they all lose interest.

I might not be emphasizing this enough, but all I want from this thread is "I think that's a good idea and I'd read it if you wrote it" or "I think that's a bad idea and here's why."

>> No.3668584

>>3668481
This might surprise you as well, but radiation is overrated as a killer.

There are two types of lethal radiation from a nuke... the radiation pulse when it goes off, and the fallout. The former isn't really an issue anymore--it mattered in Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the bombs were so weak that the radiation pulse extended farther than the fireball. That's no longer the case, so unless you're sitting in a bunker that protects you from the fireball and blast wave but not the radiation, it's a moot point.

The second depends on the detonation point. Airbursts are often defined as "self-cleaning"--that is, the fallout is dispersed into the stratosphere where it reduces in concentration to non-lethal levels before falling back down. The whole nuclear winter thing is a farce--stay indoors as much as possible for the first couple of weeks, and you shouldn't even get cancer from fallout.

Underground bursts are also clean (because the really, really, dirty stuff is buried), but surface bursts are very dirty, and that's where you can really poison the land. A shallow water burst may be the worst of all... look up CROSSROADS BAKER, they learned a *lot* of unexpected and scary stuff from that test.

Still, even a global thermonuclear war will immediately kill only tens of millions in the US. Most of the casualties will be from starvation and disease due to the disruption of the modern technological economy that has allowed us to grow past what we could support prior to the Agricultural/Industrial Revolutions.

Basically, if you're in a space station when this happens, unless you have people waiting on the ground to take you to a safe place, you sit there until you run out of air, and then you pick the best spot to survive at to land on.

>> No.3668583

>>3668572
Be sure to add a "fuck you, human."

>> No.3668595

>>3668554
Needs more giant mecha. Cthulhutech, the visual novel; I'd read that so hard.

>>3668584
Thanks!

>> No.3668607

>>3668564

I thought we were assuming that we ditched the Earth and were living via sunlight and refining spacerocks.

>> No.3668610

>>3668595
Cthulhutech needs Migo attacking though, and I doubt they'd just go "Oh, that space station looks cool, let's leave it intact. " while doing the initial strike.

>> No.3668614

>>3668565
http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm

>> No.3668616

make them all kids and I would read it

>> No.3668628

>>3668490
I never said or implied anything that disagreed with your point. But the ENTIRE EARTH will be covered in radiation if a nuclear war ever happens from the ash that will literally consume the entire planet.

Surviving 'for a short period in radiation' is exactly my point. WHY would they return knowing its just asking to die? I know they wouldn't instantly die after fucking getting into the atmosphere - but guess what you're right 'a small period of time' they can survive, so wow...they'd come back to die a week later - or some unlucky ones, months later. Great idea! Go to earth for no reason, with no motivation, simply to die sooner and know this when you decide to go.

If he's writing a novel about this there needs to be more of a reason than 'LOL LETS CHECK IT OUT XDDD' because these kids are smart enough to go to a goddamn space station on their own (who fucking piloted? and who maintains the fucking thing?) so im sure they aren't stupid enough to think it's a great idea to go back to a radiation covered planet for fun.

Also tristan, don't troll so obviously. A nuke without the nuclear warhead is not a nuke and wouldn't even be called a nuke as it lacks the reason for the name.

>> No.3668632

>>3668607
Something will definitely make humans extinct long before we ever even have to consider the sun going out.

Asteroid, climate change, volcanic eruption causing a "nuclear winter" or simply changing the chemistry of the air, gamma ray burst, we all kill each other.

95% of the species that have ever lived on Earth have gone extinct, to say that we'll pull through just because we're intelligent is tripe bullshit. We are still functional biological machines with almost countless needs and environmental conditions that must be met for us as organisms to continue to survive. One or more of them will inevitably change.

>> No.3668634

>>3668295
This is unrealistic.
Half of the crew would be fat mexicans paying for a trip to the spacestation.
You know it's true.

>> No.3668642

/jp/ - USA/USSR

>> No.3668653

>>3668344
It's been done. The entire story, I mean.

Find something more original plz...

>> No.3668654

>>3668632
>Asteroid
We can easily use nukes to change its trajectory.
It's not like we're short on them.

>Climate change, volcanic eruption
Well yeah, this could bring about a massacre, but not the extintion of the human race.
We'd just end up living underground near lava if it's getting too cold, or deeper down if it's getting too hot.
We'd live by eating genetic engineered plants and spend our time with virtual reality, scince has the bad habit of skyrocketing when people start to die.

>> No.3668658

>>3668654
0/10. This isn't Fallout or something, bro.

>> No.3668675

>>3668654
>We'd just end up living underground near lava if it's getting too cold, or deeper down if it's getting too hot.
Suffer from Vitamin D deficiency, iodine deficiency. Plants need sunlight to carry out photosynthesis, in a dark skies scenario caused by a large volcano eruption or asteroid, they will not carry out photosynthesis, no amount of "genetic engineering" will change that. And what of oxygen in an underground cave, Scrubbers? What about fuel?

Temperature isn't our only necessity. We have COUNTLESS needs as biological organisms. We are extremely complex organisms, but we rely on a very specific set of environmental factors, this is the price we pay for our complexity.

>> No.3668679

>>3668675
I think the guy is trying to imply he believes humans are magically adaptable to any situation easily within 30 seconds of it occurring. Basically he's either a shitty troll or an idiot. Just ignore him.

>> No.3668708

>>3668614
Awesome. I especially liked the way it ended in Metzada.

>> No.3668712

>>3668295
Would I read it?
I didn't even finish reading your description of it...

>> No.3668742

>>3668295

nice synopsis, I'd read it.
As a wannabe writer myself, I give you 5.

>> No.3668754

>>3668708
Indeed.

A VN based on it would be nice. Fun part is the secret route that is available after completing all the other routes, revealing the protagonist was long dead and a part of Yog-Sothoth all along, hence how the multiple-branched VN could occur in the first place.

>> No.3668772

>>3668675

>Suffer from Vitamin D deficiency

Are you forgetting that Whites can produce vitamin D? Niggers have this problem.

>> No.3668802

>>3668772
Uh, no, white people just produce it from sunlight more readily, you still need sunlight or supplements to get it.

>> No.3668810

199X

>> No.3668811

>>3668295
First, what does this have to do with /jp/?
Second, SURE IS INNOVATIVE AND ORIGINAL!

>> No.3668816

>>3668295

Sup Martian Chronicles clone, but oh wait, all you /jp/ers don't read dirty american books.

>> No.3668859

Defcon is awesome.

>> No.3668875

typical anti soviet coercive imperialistic propaganda

>> No.3668875,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>3668632
>Asteroid
there is one passing close to Earth on Feb 4
https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/
but it's small, like all the others we track down; to destroy our civilization you'll need one that is big and also fast, which means one hit every ten million years

>climate change
fake news

>volcanic eruption causing a "nuclear winter" or simply changing the chemistry of the air
a volcano can only start a Little Ice Age; it happened several times in the past, but we survived easily; to be noted: winds don't cross easily the equator, so if the Northern Hemisphere is ruined we can still move to the South

>we all kill each other
too many fags and lazy people willing to fight; many countries are also very "resilient" and can survive even when isolated from the rest of the world; nukes and a WW3 can't do much, some hole here and there; it's impossible to level millions of square kilometres of land, let alone polluting it with radioactive materials form nukes, which are not that dangerous on the long term (read about them); if we blow up every nuclear power plant... well, that's can have some fucked up consequences, but I'm not even that sure, need to do the math for it (the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone is only 2,600 km2 for example)

also, a Carrington Event would be interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

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