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Last tread hit bump limit, anyway has anyone cleared Agireda yet, the wiki seems to be wrong.

>> No.3570609

Little brown girls are the best.

>> No.3570630

>>3570609
Even if she does not hesitate to sleep with four men in quick succession at the cost of her entire race?

>> No.3570631

Is there a good ending for that Yukihime slut? If so, how do I get it?

>> No.3570641
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>>3570631
you recruit her and raise her affection

>> No.3570642
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>>3570631
This is the best end for her.

>> No.3570648

>>3570642
Why? Because it's exactly what she deserves?

>> No.3570656

>>3570641
You do that by not groping her before taking over Asai-Asakura right?

>> No.3570670

Is it the route you're on that determines if Rance automatically gropes Yukihime or something else? I had a choice on the true route, but not Ran's.

>> No.3570671

>>3570656
the um, groping scene was just a means of declaring war on asai asakura, it don't have any importance beyond that.

>> No.3570677

>>3570656
No. Recruit and get her father up to Trust ASAP, and there will be an option in Asai-Asakura to search for her.

>> No.3570692

>>3570564
She's easy to clear. Raise affection, make her the largest unit, voila. The catch is that you can only do it in True History and Isoroku's route. The other trick is pounding through her enormous troop count to actually capture her. Unless you have Omachi. She makes the impossible possible.

>>3570631
If by good ending you mean "not fucked by dirty tengu" then no. That's unavoidable. But you can raise Asakura Yoshikage's affection to Normal and then recruit her before she goes nuts. Then she can enjoy a happy life of sexual servitude to Rance instead of random bandits.

>> No.3570695

>>3570677
So I have to bring that old man out of prison? What a waste of space.

>> No.3570697

>>3570692
So those rumors of fighting off the pandas 31 times to prevent it isn't true?

>> No.3570702

>>3570697
Please explain how you would manage to fight them 31 times.

>> No.3570704

>>3570695
That "waste of space" raises the national power of every one of your territories when you clear him.

>> No.3570706

>>3570692 cont.

Also for Agireda, you need to go through Shimazu's scene where the four brothers ambush Rance (include Rance in a battle with the Demon Army after a scene where they plan the ambush, and the brothers will ambush you after you win). After that scene, Yoshihisa dies and you can progress with Agireda's events.

>> No.3570709

>>3570695
What are you talking about? He gives you one additional NP per area upon clear and significant affection boosts every time you talk to him beyond that.

>> No.3570710

>>3570695
If you character clear him he increases all your territories National Power by 1. Which is nice. Also gives +1 satisfaction up to 3 units (minimum I think) if you do his conversations after.

>> No.3570713

>>3570697
Correct, it's bullshit. I tried it.

>>3570702
Multiple motivation papers.

>> No.3570717

>>3570702
Double headed dog? Motivation paper? Not like i tried tough.

>> No.3570720

>>3570702
I'm sure if someone had enough of those items that make it so a unit can fight again, or totally buffed out units with certain items they could manage somehow.

>> No.3570729

hm, though I could only clear Agireda in true history, well I'll try again in Isoroku route later, I had her at 7/7 Trust for a long time but a purple event never came up.

>> No.3570731

>>3570720
>>3570713
>>3570717
And there really is a truck in Pokemon RBY.

>> No.3570739

>>3570729
I think some of the Shimazu Brothers have to die for that last event if I remember right.

>> No.3570745
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3570745

I have to reload about 3-4 turns back because I forgot Baba is worth 3 extra turns/points in the carnival.

I have no idea how I'm going to deal with the end game when it comes time to maximize points. Thankfully I can keep Chinu, but all the other % damage characters and the Takeda "lol battle rating" clan have to be booted.

>> No.3570747

>>3570731
It's true, there is a truck. You just can't move it.

You have to talk to the man on the roof.

>> No.3570754

So, how do I enter Ran route? Im currentle at turn 22 , at war with Tenshi sect and Tanegashima, one of Houjou's territories captured (but not Ran). Is it still doable?

>> No.3570760

>>3570754
How many gourds are broken? Sounds like not many, so you should be fine.

>> No.3570764

>>3570747
Yes, that was my point. You have to do multiple totally off-the-wall things to accomplish some extraordinary achievement which actually is possible (winning 31 times, finding the truck) and then the rumored reward does not exist.

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>>3570745
5 star is fun star!

>> No.3570772

>>3570739
the last brother dies when the demon army is conquered, no purple event comes up for Agireda though.

>> No.3570779

Is it possible to fight masamune in the emperor's race in my last game he was grayed out and when i defeated the one eyed house only rance went to fight him.

>> No.3570782

I'm pretty sure you need to get Agireda's first upgrade event before you kill the first Shimazu brother. If she's not at the right level, then that flag never gets set.

>> No.3570787

Someone needs to write a step-by-step walkthrough for getting a fuckton of points, somewhat like the "third fan in 13 turns" and "fourth fan in 30 turns" walkthroughs.

>> No.3570790

>>3570779
You probably have to recruit him and then Kenshin will be able to challenge him.

>> No.3570796

>>3570729
Might be true history only, that's where I did it. But at the very least you can capture her in Isoroku's route.

>> No.3570810

>>3570787
Just FYI, as someone who just tried to loosely follow that "4 fans in 30 turns" walkthrough, it relies on a buttload of RNG stuff, at least one thing (hot springs location) you can't find out until around turn 15 or so. Plus some of the other save scumming is almost impossible. 31 turns is pretty easy, but I still need to hit some dungeons for items that I 'should' have if I followed that guide.

>> No.3570829

>>3570704
Enemy troops scale on your NP.
I don't see how this is a good thing.

>> No.3570836

>>3570747
Hah, I remember that spinning guy.

>> No.3570842

>>3570760
2 gourds broken.

>> No.3570843

>>3570787
The problem with that is that point runs is that you end up using a lot of captured generics because so many uniques start with passive skills so can't get End-Game points. Point runs are mostly going to be just finishing a route ASAP followed by about 9 turns of using the +3 affection bonus to clear as many characters as possible.

>> No.3570865

Hey guys, I have confirmed that the wiki is wrong (or at least vague) concerning Kikkawa's character clear.

She CAN be cleared if you took her as a house bonus, so don't worry about defeating Motonari and all those other preconditions..

Just so you know.

>> No.3570866

>>3570745
What causes the carnival to appear, I've heard it only shows up past a certain turn count...?

>> No.3570870

>>3570866
It appears when you're in the "end-game" for that route.

>> No.3570872

>>3570865
Everybody knows this already. You just have to get her to Trust before conquering Mouri.

>> No.3570882

>>3570810
I could only manage in 33 turns myself, but I snuck in some Boar hunting in Sado and other great treasure stuff too (NP development) when things simply weren't going "just as planned".

Fucking hot springs...

>> No.3570890

>>3570870
What is the "end-game" for the Monkey route then?

>> No.3570945

Can someone kindly upload this game to MU or anywhere?pleaseeee

>> No.3570960

>>3570945
>pleaseeee
You do realize that the e is silent, right?

>> No.3571015

>>3570790
Didnt work either.

>> No.3571024

>>3570945
The ISO is ~2GiB. Torrent it.

>> No.3571100

Holy fuck. Two-star is a bigger leap from one-star than one-star was from normal.

>> No.3571146

>>3571100
Not really. Normal gives you the scaling advantage. 1 star is even. 2 star gives them the same scaling advantage you had on Normal. It's just the first difficulty where you're at a disadvantage.

>> No.3571161

>>3571146
I've been fine up until Houjo. Normally they're pussies but suddenly I've gone from "take two, defend one" to "take one, hope they don't try to take it back because that one took all of my resources".

>> No.3571175

>>3571161
Ah wait, never mind. I was just unlucky in that my first battle with them had Shouun and high-count footsoldiers.

>> No.3571179

What does the buddha statue on free for all mode do?

>> No.3571192

>>3571179
Every two you build gives you an item.

>> No.3571212

Nanjou Ran: Go! Suzaku!
My entire team: Alas I am slain!

>> No.3571226

>>3571212

yea, the first time i met her i didn't think it was that dangerous. i was so wrong.

>> No.3571232

Maybe, but Shikigami are way too slow to be all that dangerous if you're mindful of them. In the amount of time it takes for a diviner to prepare a shikigami attack you can have Natori use miko storm and Omachi use Large Lightning, followed by regular attacks (bow and regular lightning) from both.

>> No.3571237

>>3571232

comparing any damage dealer to omachi isn't fair

>> No.3571267

>>3571232
Suzaku is an instant all-target attack with stupid amounts of damage that uses all of Ran's action flags. It only ever gets used once at most, but if you get hit you definitely feel it.

>> No.3571273

>>3571212
Ran is easy to take care of, but Soun is a monster.

Speaking of Soun, I'm currently in 56's route, after the first battle with Xavier. I managed to go to the bottom of the Oil Dungeon and save him, but he just up and disappeared after that.

I need that monster, since Takeda's kicking my ass.

>> No.3571312

>>3571273
Is he really that good? the only time I've ever gotten him I was in end-game and he just replaced Ran as my diviner permit user.

>> No.3571319

>>3571312
I'd say he's kinda like Maria, heavy artillery, but he's far more versatile.

>> No.3571345

Nanjou Ran, Houjo Souun, Ogawa Kentarou AND Uesugi Kenshin, all in one fight? Fuck this game sometimes.

>> No.3571346

>>3571267
Unless you're expecting it and use All-Guard Shikigami.

>>3571232
Diviners are one of those things where one of them is kind of useless, but three of them are a giant headache.

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>>3571345
Pfft. You pussy. What I wouldn't give to be fighting wimpy diviners still.

>> No.3571357

>>3571345

Could be worse. Could have Goemon and that other generic with assassinate in there too.

>> No.3571359

>>3571345
And yet somehow I still won and captured Ran.

Fuck yeah Takeda bonus.

>> No.3571362

>>3571346
>Guard
>Guard
>Guard
>Shikigami while guarded
>Attack diviner only get raped by another Shikigami
>FFFFFFFFFFFF

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>>3571357
Could have THIRTY THOUSAND PEASANTS.

>> No.3571366

>>3571364
That's only 27,603 peasants. Don't lie.

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>>3571366
They're just meat in front of the grinder anyway.

>> No.3571374

>>3571364
How can i rape the shota?

>> No.3571408

>>3571374
it is a non rapeable character

>> No.3571566

I am prepared to be flamed...

What game is this?

>> No.3571583

>>3571566
The staffs are dancing around the fire.

>> No.3571586

The bankai of takamachi nanoha : starlighto breaker deluxe

>> No.3571587

>>3571566
It's lurk the fuck more, newfag.

>> No.3571589

>>3571566
Sengoku Rance

>> No.3571594

>>3571589
Thank you sir for your kindness

>> No.3571610

I'm trying to capture Ran, is it possible the very first time you attack Edo?

>> No.3571613

>>3571589
Does that make you feel good?

Does it?

Does being "kind" make you feel like a good person?

Does telling people what they could know with much less effort if they weren't retarded make you feel fuzzy inside?

Are you sooooo nice and kind to people that you can't even see that BEING NICE AND ACCEPTING OF IDIOTIC THINGS AND PUNISHING THOSE WHO ARE NOT IS THE REASON WHY ALMOST EVERY MODERATED MESSAGE BOARD OR IMAGEBOARD ON THE INTERNET IS FULL OF KAWAII YAOI TWILIGHT IS AWSUM HAY GUISE ISN'T MY SELF-INSERT MARY SUE FIC SUGOI?

If so, kill yourself. If not, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

P.S.: Yes, I am mad.

>> No.3571617

As a general rule you cant capture any character unless all their events have played out.

So no, you can only capture nanjo ran after you view her last event(iirc the one where soun tells her not to use suzaku anymore).

>> No.3571626

>>3571617
I'm on turn 45, im pretty sure it already happened.
I just wonder if i still can get into the ran IF route before the seals break. (3 of 5 atm)

>> No.3571629

So I got Ran, let Souun go to the dungeon, defeated Houjou, and still, there is no freaking dungeon in Mamushi. What the hell did I do wrong?

>> No.3571637

>>3571629
Talk to ran twice, purple events.

>> No.3571652

Do i need to win a battle to capture someone?

>> No.3571666

>>3571652
Pretty sure, yes.

>> No.3571668

>>3571626
The first seal breaks before you could even conceivably capture Ran, so no, that's not the issue.

>> No.3571681

>>3571652
>>3571666
No you don't. I've captured people while losing on more than one occasion.

>> No.3571726

>>3571613
I did it because I knew it'd piss you off.

>> No.3571732

>>3571726
You would sacrifice so much for a cheap troll? Fuck you.

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just lol

>> No.3571886

>>3571371
>>3571355

How the hell is it possible to win these fights.... I am playing through my first time and like 2000 troops in one unit is really hard to beat

>> No.3571922

>>3571886

Judging by the health, I imagine he used Yamagata to kill off the tactician, because that's the only real threat to everyone in the back, and then used miko storm and poisoning. Peasants have no real power for all their numbers, so it's not like they could kill anything.

As for fighting Mouri, he'd just have to use lots of footsoldiers and Natori\Chinu. The footsoldier on the mouri side will waste their time guarding, and the monks will waste their time dispelling his guard. The only danger is the ninja unit. Once Poisoning/Miko storm 2 is off he wins by battle rating.

>> No.3571924

>>3571886
Games with higher difficulties can get really hard. But usually you can beat armies with tons of troops with proper usage of few good units.

>> No.3572051

I assumed that Soun would appear once I fought Suzaku after saving him in the Oil Dungeon, but all I got were choices to send out my Leazas and Zeth reinforcements.

What gives?

>> No.3572056

>>3572051

Wait a couple turns.
Or twenty.

He joins when he feels like it.
Kind of like Masamune.

>> No.3572068

>>3572056
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Might as well get some of that treasure out the way while waiting.

>> No.3572097
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3572097

A question about the enemy troop scaling, which troops can i safely let increase in size and which ones should i bog down? I read that you should cap them at each 500 step because of the increase power they take, the enemy forces become bigger. The enemy already has up to 1400 footmen in some groups, though attackers usually come in smaller ones. I once had senhime at 1400 foot soldiers, did the game scale up the enemy foot soldier toop size because of that?

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>>3571922
This, but Yamagata did use his Battle Result Up ability after Onslaughting the Tactician. Yamagata also had the -100 damage armor equipped, so that took off a lot of damage, and the tactician decided to shoot at Chinu instead of removing his buffs. Once the peasants were down to ~4-5k though, they could only barely damage him, so the battle was basically over after Chinu's poison. I didn't even mean to win that fight, I just wanted to test if Ran would be able to keep up the shields.

And now in my new timeline, I somehow managed to get all three sex items from the Kachikachi dungeon (only 3 item floors), so in the new timeline, I hit 161 Sat on turn 30, thus technically surpassing the "4 flags in 30 turns" extreme walkthrough by 1 sat. Booyea.

>> No.3572119

>>3572097
Your footmen do not count for scaling.
Outside of NP, the opponent scales when your troops hit certain numbers (like going over 500).
Also, if you just sit on your ass, opposing nations manually increase their numbers.
An idea to avoid f=urther scaling is to keep units below a certain number till you have enough money to make a sizeable change.
Give huge numbers to your most powerful units outside of footmen to make the most use.

>> No.3572153

>>3572119
so which units would you recommend letting go over 1000?

>> No.3572163

>>3572153
A tactician, diviner, ninja and a warrior for permits.

>> No.3572209

Does this game get any easier after you beat it once because I am under the impression that nothing carries over into your next game other then pts which you can spent on bonuses but your troop count, lvs, items, captains, stats all get reset

If this is the case I don't really understand how you guys can conquer like half the map in 20 turns, since I can only probably attack one caste in a territory a turn or am I doing something very wrong????

>> No.3572244

>>3572209
if you have enough points you can start with a very powerful army. also following the "3 fans in 13 turns" guide you can basically conquer ashikage, hara and miko institute in less than 20 turns even with 0 points.

>> No.3572256

>>3572209
Suck less.

Or maybe more usefully, use your troops better. Have multiple attack and defense squads, and don't send anything more than what you need to win.

>> No.3572320

I want to do the Ran route, i captured her, defeated the hojo house, soun is trapped in a dungeon somewhere. The wiki says something about events at oil field area, but nothing new appeared there. What do i do next?

>> No.3572322

>>3572320
Talk to Ran a couple of time after recruiting her, dungeon appears at Mamushi Oil field.

>> No.3572506

Haven't posted in a few days.
Just finished the rest of the major characters in Zeth, thereby ending the section.
Kimchi and the orphans are rage worthy, but I kept the details pretty short.

Haven't decided on what to do next.

>> No.3572523

>>3572506
Awesome, thanks.

>> No.3572551 [DELETED] 

>>3570564
I stall for time long enough, but apparently Suzaku wanted Rance's ass so badly that he came out during a defense and blew a hole in one of my footmen.

I'm assuming that at this point Soun's not coming.

>> No.3572558

I stall for time long enough, but apparently Suzaku wanted Rance's ass so badly that he came out during a defense and blew a hole in one of my footmen.

I'm assuming that at this point Soun's not coming, unfortunately.

>> No.3572598

>>3572558
FAAAAAAAAAAABULOUS

>> No.3572643

>>3572209
>>3572256
>Have multiple attack and defense squads, and don't send anything more than what you need to win.
Basically this. For some fights in the beginning, just Ranmaru and Katsuie is enough.
If you have Elina, equipping her with the pain helmet can make own the battles single handedly.

>> No.3572701

>>3572558
On my last game I went into the oil dungeon, rescued Sounn and got Ran blown up. Sounn never appeared for me despite the fact that I had plenty of NP and free slots. Maybe there's more to it than that.

>> No.3572787

>>3572506
Since we know most of JAPAN, leave it last.
Helman maybe?

>> No.3572795

>>3572701
Maybe it's a really, REALLY low priority turn start event?

>> No.3572812

I should not have started a 2-star run without either Elina or Omachi. Massive stacks of peasants are actually presenting a problem.

>> No.3572816

Soun is a start of turn event, the problem is by the time you go into the dungeon its going to get pushed back by all the route events.

>> No.3572996

Why is there no Soun in Houjou house bonus?

>> No.3573000

Elina with 9 int and advanced shikigami doesnt kill that many peasants in my experience.

>> No.3573006

>>3573000
Aren't diviners based on atk?

>> No.3573007
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>Alfra is a young little girl who used to be at the Lolita House, a sinister child prostitution shop run by the evil Miss Minchin. She was sexually abused by the customers there, and lost her left eye from the abuse. Due to this trauma, she had a fear of men, and could not stand to be near one.

eyefuck? lolwhat?

>> No.3573014

>>3573007
>lost her left eye
>picture shows a patch over the right eye
Ehh...

>> No.3573028

>>3573006
No, i tested it, nanjou ran with 1 int kills almost nothing.

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What the hell? Random generic footsoldier starts at level 50....

>> No.3573034

>>3573014
Left as seen in pic, ya know?

>> No.3573037

>>3573032
There are quiate a few generics at lv 40+.

>> No.3573055 [DELETED] 

>Lolita House

Rabce world not so bad.

>> No.3573061

>Lolita House

Rance world not so bad.

>> No.3573060 [DELETED] 

>>3573055
Too bad Rance burned it down.

>> No.3573068

>>3573061
Too bad he burned it down.

>> No.3573078

>>3573061
Why would you do that?

>> No.3573079

STILL NO ANSWER FOR OP?

Here's the deal OP. Raise Agireda's affection normally.

Make deals to punish the Shimazu, then defeat the Shimazu ambush.

SEX SCENE.

After the sex scene, go to your H-room to have another round of Agireda saying you suck in bed.

That will lead to her wanting to be the largest unit in your army. Clear that hurdle, she is cleared.

>> No.3573086

>>3573079
>STILL NO ANSWER FOR OP?
His question was answered a long time ago.

>> No.3573105

>>3573086
No, it wasn't. The answer was incomplete.

Also, Agireda doesn't need to have a right level before the Shimazu get punished. You could have beaten the Shimazu brothers ambush and still clear Agireda later.

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>After the sex scene, go to your H-room to have another round of Agireda saying you suck in bed.

well that clarifies things

>> No.3573230

Is vassaling worth it in Isoroku's route?

>> No.3573276

>>3573230
>Is vassaling worth it
No.

>> No.3573279

>>3573276
Doesn't the Demon Army take provinces off you if you get too many, though? Vassals would cut down on that. Also not getting the NP means that the enemies don't scale as much.

>> No.3573284

>>3573279
>Vassals would cut down on that.
I believe this is incorrect.

>> No.3573297

I think the xavier still kills vassals off.

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Xavier will kill of vassals, yes.
Im on the Ran route now, only houses left are shimazu, mouri and youkai.
which of my commanders should I keep? I just recruited all 4 tokuga guys. I guess I should just get rid of more generics, but I also think i might have a few too many Warriors.

I also forgot what to do for Ranmarus Character clear, I already had the peeking scene.
im planning to feed akashi some more books soon enough, then raise his stuff to 7 via favor and then get hibachi.

>> No.3573319

>>3573308
Protip:
Concentrate on Character levels rather than your army.

>> No.3573334

>Want to clear Komatsu
>Requires to fire all diviners
>Have already recruited Omachi

;__;

>> No.3573347

>>3573334
Sucks to be you mate. Losing Omochi is not worth it imo.

>> No.3573346 [DELETED] 

I'm on second play through, kill the monkey route.

Yukihime went to Takeda, which was eventually beaten, but there is no green event showing up to search for here. Also, Soun and Ran were killed by Suzaku after the last battle contrary to what is stated in the wiki.

>> No.3573349

I'm on second play through, kill the monkey route.

Yukihime went to Takeda, which was eventually beaten, but there is no green event showing up to search for her. Also, Soun and Ran were killed by Suzaku after the last battle contrary to what is stated in the wiki.

>> No.3573352

>>3573346
You have to bring Yoshikage to trust, and the green event will be over their country.

Question on Yukihime. Just how many turns does it take to get her into a sex slave? I made a separate file to get that, and it never happened even after 10 turns.

>> No.3573353

>>3573349
You have to find her in her country, before she tries to go on a nation and stir war.
Also, if you do NOT capture Ran, that is what happens.
If you capture Ran on the last battle, a different ending unfolds too.

>> No.3573354

>>3573349
Ran must die for Souu to join. The wiki is correct in that she won't just suddenly explode without warning like she does in any route with the demon army in it.

>> No.3573356

>>3573353
>If you capture Ran on the last battle, a different ending unfolds too.

This one I did not know about. What happens?

>> No.3573360

>>3573356
Small fight between Rance and Shoun, he dies in regret.
You cannot recruit Ran from Prison.

>> No.3573364

How do I get Masamune? I beat the guy, and he never showed up! Was it because I was on the Kenshin route, and she fights him instead of Rance? I'm on my third play, going to do Ran route, and I will try again. How many turns before he shows up?

>> No.3573373

>>3573364
Maybe you have cleared one of his wives, then he will never join. To clear any of his wives you will need to fire him.

>> No.3573388

>>3573373
No, I didn't clear any of them.

I know the order is clear him first. Kill/dismiss him. And finally clear the youkai girls.

The reason is definitely not my NP cause I had almost 20 extra.

>> No.3573390

Masamune shows up as a beginning of the turn event, which will be pushed back by story events.

>> No.3573391

>>3573390
this

>> No.3573394

>>3573388
Low priority turn start event

>> No.3573395

>>3573390
I guess that's it, cause a bunch of events were happening due to the Emperor Race.
I hate that shit. Should just happen anyway.
I suppose I'll have to stall awhile or something.

>> No.3573402

>>3573395
How many points do you have in the Emperor Race right now? Just win that shitty game ASAP

>> No.3573407

>>3573394
I beat back those fucking Takeda pricks three turns in a row, and I still didn't get the assassination event.

I swear to God, this priority bullshit.
Is beating them once enough to unlock the event? Do I just have to wait for it now?

>> No.3573408

>>3573402
I'm already done.
I'm going to go do Ran's route now.

>> No.3573410

>>3573407
Last night's thread said that you have to beat them by force AND survive the blitz.

>> No.3573412

>>3573407
You have to beat them once using brute force, then repel their blitz attack all four times. You can't get the assassination event if it's your first game, but if you beat them by brute force and reload in your second game it becomes available. Assassination is possible in the Kenshin route as well

>> No.3573414

>>3573410
I've beaten them by force before.

>> No.3573419

>>3573414
Me too. And when I reloaded I didn't get any fuckin assassination option.

>> No.3573429

>>3573414
>>3573419
If you beat them, save and then survive the blitz( the generals have an event right after the battles where they say 'Lost a battle , not the war' etc), Rance will contemplate sneaking in, and the Option appears.

>> No.3573435

It'll save me time if I ask.
What's the best way to kill Baba Shouen and Touri?
I only need to conquer one final territory and Takeda will be mine but I just can't beat them

>> No.3573445

So for super-Rance.... It's books to 6, affection to 7 then elites?

>> No.3573451

>>3573435
Uruza and Kenshin combo. Cut down those actions. Have a strong All Guard footsoldier to get wiped out by Baba's commander charge. Win by Battle Rating.

>> No.3573457

>>3573429
So you DO have to survive the blitz. I honestly can't do that. I don't have the money to crank my foot soldiers high enough to survive.

>> No.3573465

My question though, is whether or not surviving the blitz once is enough.

>> No.3573466

>>3573451
Why does everyone keep saying Uruza is good? I got her (late in the game though) and she was a shitty tactician. Does she gain some good ability through affection?

>> No.3573467

>>3573457
I only use two footsoldiers to survive the blitz, to be honest.

>> No.3573471

>>3573466
As a tactician, she's low-tier. Give her Accurate Shots and she has one of the best abilities in the game. She's also quite good in dungeons.

>> No.3573476

>>3573467
How many troops do you have for each?

>> No.3573484

>>3573476
The first one doesn't matter much, since his only role is to be a target for assassination instead of the two warriors fielded with him.

Second one, a thousand or so.

>> No.3573520

>>3573465
Five turns and counting.

GRRRRAAAGGHH.

>> No.3573531

>>3573445
Books to 6(at least Att/Def).
Affection one to 7, conquer Yamatai fuck Natori for the other.
THEN, get the elite troops. Super Rance at 1NP cost.
If you are slightly lucky with books, done by turn 15.

>> No.3573538

>>3573466
She gets Accurate Shots, one of best skills in the whole game. She is also the best ranged unit for Dungeons.
Plus, with decent numbers, gives quite a few buffs just by deployment due to her class, which adds to her usefulness.
Uruza+Kenshin or Dousan is pretty much a guaranteed victory.

>> No.3573540

How do you get the popularity staff? The wiki mentions not fighting for 25 turns?

>> No.3573541

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7986655

Are you man enough to play Sengoku Rance on 5star, declaring war on everyone ASAP without any bonuses?

>> No.3573552

>>3573531
Woah woah woah, WOAH!
Super Rance? IS THIS FOR REAL?!

>> No.3573554

>>3573541
While not at war with everyone, I am working on a no bonus 5 Star playthrough.
I am not sure which route should I go through, but I will not do Kenshin at least.

>> No.3573558
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>>3573552
Strictly speaking, he is always Super.
GAHAHAHA!

>> No.3573563

>>3573554
Do True History, Ran would be easy mode

>> No.3573566

>>3573531
>Affection one to 7
By this, do you mean Rance's affection (his mood)?

And, is their some option that comes up to select Super Rance, or is it simply what you guys call him for having all 9s or something?

>> No.3573575

>>3573558
TOOOOOOOOH!

>> No.3573576

>>3573563
I just finished a point whore 5 Star Ran, so I guess it boils down to Yamamoto and True.
Since I already did 5-star True route(first time I finished it 5 star) some time ago, I will try Isoroku, then Kenshin.

Also, I will not get units that need a 2nd playthrough to be unlocked (like Inukai or Ieyasu).

It's pretty much the last thing I plan to do for this game.

>> No.3573577

>>3573566
Really just eights in the important ones, and probably only 6 or 7 speed. Kinda shit compared to bonus units, but awesome in a first or second run.

>> No.3573580

What sat bonuses do you need to take to be able to select the +3 relationship points to all bonus? I'm trying to get a bunch of character clears out of the way and am running out of items.

>> No.3573582

>>3573566
Rance also has Affection meter (Raised by MySlave:Sill and battles).
Get him to 7 to raise one of his stats, and fuck Natori for the other.

Also, Super Rance is just a title we give since he becomes one of the best straightforward attack units with minimal resources and NP cost.
If you give him an Attack2 Book too and Warrior Attack 2, the damage output along with Chaos surpasses the musketeers.

>> No.3573590
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3573590

Anyone can suggest me a good FFA strategy?
I can`t take Furry kingdoms and Houjous last castle.
And Takeda is insta death.

>> No.3573593

>>3573577
Since you have him no matter what, making him useful with minimal resources is good deal.
Even in 2 star, he is a rape machine.
Only in 5 star, he is lackluster, but turning him durable and capable of damage helps more than having him waste.
Unless you are unlucky and for the first 40 turns or so, you get no attack or defense textbooks.
Happens sometimes.
If you can do it quickly, fix him up.
You should deploy him for the extra affection cleared units get at least, no matter the difficulty, making him durable pays off.

>> No.3573597

http://dblog.jp/dr30rs/

>> No.3573604

If i dismiss a unit thats in Rances harem will she disappear from there too when selecting the satisfaction command in owari?

>> No.3573606

>>3573604
Most probably, yeah.
Kanami or Rizna?

>> No.3573610

>>3573582
Oh, I see.
It'd be easier to use the regular textbooks first, then raise him with elite troops Sat bonus, and finally do it by leveling up.

>> No.3573614

>>3573604
Yes she will. I did this to Akihime and Yukihime.
Dismissing is the same as making them vanish of the face of the Earth

>> No.3573619

>>3573610
The problem with this order, is that for stats going from 7 to 8, his NP cost goes up.
While with elite troops, it does not go up.
Thus, he gets Masamune like stats with the same NP cost.
Hence the specific strategy and order(rushing an affection bonus and natori to be at 7).

>> No.3573626
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3573626

>>3573614
I need room. tell me who should kick the bucket, I guess yukihime and her dad aren't really too useful. Nozomi can be cleared right? im planning on doing that and firing her after it.

>> No.3573634

>>3573626
Raise Yukihime to 7 Affection, choose to Rape her.
+5 Sat, she leaves.
Raise Yoshikage to trust, get +1 NP for every province, fire him.
Hara should be fired too, unless you really need him for something.

>> No.3573643

>>3573619
Oh, I see.

>> No.3573646

What s the easiest way to get a 4th action fan?

>> No.3573650

>>3573634
Don't fire Yoshikage imo. You can use him to raise affection points for multiple characters somewhat.

>> No.3573651

>>3573634
you dont even get any CG for raping yukihime. Just fire her

>> No.3573652

>>3573626
How the fuck do ye end up with so much money and yet so many troops?
Christ.

>> No.3573653

>>3573646
Recruit female units with sex scene and Conquer countries that give such units.
Aka, Takeda is not a priority with that reasoning.
Doing a few dungeons to get the Suzume and Sill scenes helps too.

>> No.3573655

>>3573646
160 Sat
>>3573652
His troops are only in the 1000's...That's nothing.

>> No.3573658

>>3573652
You will be surprised how much money you save if you fight with minimal losses and generally save on healing cost.

>> No.3573661

>>3573651
CG isn't the point dude. It's +5 sat.

>> No.3573666
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3573666

>>3573646
Why limit yourself to four, how about FIVE?

>> No.3573670

>>3573666
....How?

>> No.3573672

>>3573670
Cheating.
You normally can get it when you reach 260 Sat.

>> No.3573677

>>3573672
Yeah, but the guy has them on turn 2.
For each fan you get, does it show up in the bonuses?
Does that mean the fan I took from the bonus won't show up at 50 Sat?...

>> No.3573684

>>3573677
Hence the cheating.
If you chose the 3d fan as a bonus, you won't get it at 50Sat.
The next one is at 160.

>> No.3573693
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3573693

>>3573666
Why limit yourself to five, sucker, how about nine?

>> No.3573694

>>3573684
Dammit. I was looking forward to getting a quick and easy fourth fan ; ;

>> No.3573697

>>3573693
This is just ridiculous.

>> No.3573701

>>3573693
How do I get this?

>> No.3573706

>>3573701
It's a bonus you can choose at the beginning of the game; basically debug mode. To get it, survive all 31 waves of panda attacks while conquering Asai-askura.

>> No.3573710

>>3573693
Shit. A character clear a turn, with that many fans.

>> No.3573714

>>3573693
Those aren't nine, but eight.

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3573721

>>3573451
Sadly I don't have either units.
What I'm using so far.
I want to beat them in this turn if possible because if I get attacked by the big four in the same turn I will lose any chances I have to conquer them.

>> No.3573728
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3573728

>>3573710
How about 8 character clears a round?

>> No.3573733

>>3573721
Oh my, no house bonuses/special characters/bonus characters? I doubt you will stand much of a chance, bro.

>> No.3573737

>>3573728
>How about 8 character clears a round?
Uh, no. Not with 8 fans.

>> No.3573741

>>3573728
With all those fans and cups, you'd simply run out of things to do by turn 3.

I know on my last run, I started having more action fans then I needed, and simply sunk them into raising Rance's level.

>> No.3573742

>>3573733
I don't even know what all you mentioned is hahahaha... OTL

>> No.3573746

>>3573742
Just finish the game properly once at Normal, and one more at 1 star.
Things will fall into place sooner or later.

>> No.3573747

>>3573742
:/

>> No.3573768 [DELETED] 

>>3573742
Well, you may have a chance if you were smart and gave Isoroku Whirlwind Shot, and simply spammed that. Do note that it is highly recommended that you take down your target's health to under 70-60% first, I find that usually results in a success.

I managed to get one off on Baba once, shit was so cash.

On a related note, why didn't you take the Miko Institute and recruit Natori yet? She's amazingly useful against Takeda's high-troop stacks.

>> No.3573771

>>3573742
Well, you may have a chance if you were smart and gave Isoroku Whirlwind Shot, and simply spammed that. Do note that it is highly recommended that you take down your target's health to under 70-60% first, I find that usually results in a success.

I managed to get one off on Baba once, shit was so cash.

On a related note, why didn't you take the Miko Institute and recruit Natori first? She's amazingly useful against Takeda's high-troop stacks.

>> No.3573854

>>3573771
It's his first game, mine progressed almost like that one too, didn't know enough shit about the game.

>> No.3573865

>>3573854
Still? Hasn't he been playing for several weeks now?

>> No.3573869

>>3573854
My first game ended in a terrible failure at the temple event while Takeda was raping the shit out of me. I've even managed to get Shibata killed, so I didn't have any decent foot solders. After 40 or so turn I started the whole game all over again

>> No.3573886

>>3573869
Attacking Takeda is not the brightest idea in your first game.
Did the same and got the shit bliz`d out of me.

>> No.3573952

>>3573771
In my first game I hit the Miko institute third, after Hara and Ashikaga.

I conquered them somewhere around turn 40.

This game is hard until you understand how it works.

>> No.3573957

>>3573952
Also I was getting raped by Demon Army until they magically got pushed back in turn 95.

>> No.3573965
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3573965

So yeah, I just finished my longest run yet (well, not counting the one where I got the Takeda bonus. It was way worse).
Not a point run, obviously, but rather a completion run. Saw pretty much all events and clears I could, killed Orochi, Gungan etc.
This is the my final army.

>> No.3573971

>>3573965
I take it that the empty slot used to have Fuuka in it?

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>>3573965

>> No.3573976

>>3573965
You Maria is pretty awesome.

>> No.3573999

>>3573965
How did you get her to 8200?

>> No.3574003

>>3573999
Nevermind. You used a captain defense squad.

>> No.3574009

>>3573971
Yep. I had no prisoners to replace her (freed everyone to max out Rance's level) and after beating Orochi I was bored and just raped the One Eyed with battle permits (I normally don't use them, at all)

>> No.3574018

>>3573999
5000 troops item and or staff of pop culture

>> No.3574055

Sorry if this is a silly question but I'm doing the Ran route for the first time and just got up to the point where I can easily dispatch ogres but the Shimazu brothers are taking some of my commanders. Basically I knew this would happen and hired 5 generic female commanders that I'm never going to use, all on hate, and they never seem to get picked. Is it completely random and I'm just having no luck? I'm getting a little tired of reloading over and over to see Kenshin/Kanami leave.

>> No.3574066
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3574066

>>3574055
FUCK YOU THEY TOOK MY MAID!

>> No.3574074

Is Baba Shouen a good target for Rance's Love, to get him up to 9/9/9/9 ASAP?

>> No.3574080
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>>3574066

Well I don't so mind Kanami leaving since she's mediocre anyway but I'd prefer keeping her. I really don't want to see Kenshin leave though, especially when theres 5 generics just sitting there asking to be taken.

>> No.3574088

>>3574074
Very.

>> No.3574090

>>3574074
He is of the top 3 Unique choices for Rance love.
Even if not raising ALL to 9s, boosting his stats, attack, numbers and levels is a very good idea.

>> No.3574121

>>3574080
>>3574066
>>3574055
THEY CAN FUCKING TAKE MAIN GIRLS TOO?! I thought it would just be generic bitches. Aw fuck...

>> No.3574125

>>3574121
They seem to prefer uniques

>> No.3574129

post limit! the thread is now in autosage.

>> No.3574134

>>3574090
Who are the other 2?

>> No.3574150

Since these bastards take your girls, would you recommend simultaneously invading into Mouri and then their territory while entering Ran's route? I'm thinking this way you can take them out ASAP before they get any girls.

Also, when they do take a girl, can you reload and there's a chance it won't happen, or is it that it will always happen on that turn, just a random girl?

>> No.3574156

fuck the game convinience, I refuse to put "Rance's Love" on a sweaty machoman.

>> No.3574189

>>3574156
What's the matter? Afraid it'll make you gay?

>> No.3574251

>>3574055
they wont leave if you are in "trust" level or higher

>> No.3574388

>>3574189
Everyone is gay for Baba. No exceptions.

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