So that's how you spell it.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:09:33 2009 No.3571831 [Reply] [Original]

So that's how you spell it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:11:33 2009 No.3571837 You realize people the world over make similar confirmation noises, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:11:33 2009 No.3571839 k.

>>	【五角場　～之～　無名氏】 Mon Oct 19 04:12:33 2009 No.3571842 嗯

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:12:33 2009 No.3571843 I spell it ん

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:13:33 2009 No.3571849 I remember this anime, yet another show with an ost that had every single fucking song except the one I wanted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:14:33 2009 No.3571853 >>3571837 I have never heard anybody but an anime character to make the "un" noise. Normal people make the "uh huh" noise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:14:33 2009 No.3571855 People make those confirmation noises even in English, I don't see why it's never seen written.

>>	I really can't think of anything to say, guys. Sorry. Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:17:33 2009 No.3571867 File: 17 KB, 405x289, facepalm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3571853

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:17:33 2009 No.3571868 Fuck, I'm right now trying to make the "un" noise and I don't know how. It comes out as an animal grunt.

>>	CINERIA !DoLLFaGERs Mon Oct 19 04:20:33 2009 No.3571878 I can make the un noise, I do it quite regularly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:21:33 2009 No.3571883 It trails up. Un!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:21:33 2009 No.3571884 >>3571878 "It's like I'm really Japanese!!" >>3571868 Watch any current shit slice of life anime and you'll hear it.

>>	CINERIA !DoLLFaGERs Mon Oct 19 04:22:33 2009 No.3571885 >>3571884 No, I did it before I was such an irredeemable faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:23:33 2009 No.3571888 >>3571884 I know how it's supposed to sound, I just can't repeat the sound myself. It's like trying to imitate the call of some strange exotic bird. Mine is more URGH than un.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:23:33 2009 No.3571889 >>3571885 Of course you'd try and argue this, but no you only started doing it after hearing it on an anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:23:33 2009 No.3571893 >>3571868 You are not a cute female you can't make the sound

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:24:33 2009 No.3571894 TWEET TWEET NEIGH

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:24:33 2009 No.3571897 Just "Nnn-" seems more natural.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:25:33 2009 No.3571902 >>3571889 I guess all of the people who imitated Power Rangers as kids also thought they were really Japanese. Seriously, what?

>>	CINERIA !DoLLFaGERs Mon Oct 19 04:26:33 2009 No.3571905 >>3571889 I'm not willing to argue when you've already won.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:27:33 2009 No.3571907 >>3571889 Yeah man, generic noise, you could only have started that by watching my animes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:27:33 2009 No.3571908 I prefer to say mumbamamba diridiridong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:29:33 2009 No.3571915 >>3571907 Seriously dude, nobody makes the un sound other than anime schoolgirls. Maybe real Japanese schoolgirls do it too, but you're not anywhere near them, you're Andy from Bumfuck, Georgia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:29:33 2009 No.3571917 ITT 17 year olds try to defend the fact they try to model their real lives on occurrences in anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:30:33 2009 No.3571920 >>3571915 "Um no i've been making these anime sounds since before anime!!!" Also anyone who says it's a "generic sound" please link me anything other than anime wit an "un" sound that resembles that implied by the OP image.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:32:33 2009 No.3571933 What the hell? Does it just not happen in some parts of the world or something? I hear "un/nn/mm" all the time. Mostly on the phone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:33:33 2009 No.3571936 >>3571920 How about "mm"? You know, that sound a lot of people make, also commonly crossed with "uh huh" to make "mmhmm"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:34:33 2009 No.3571943 >>3571933 Mm sounds pretty common. I haven't heard "un" outside of Japan though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:34:33 2009 No.3571945 >>3571936 Mmm and especially mmhmm are entirely different sounds from the un.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:34:33 2009 No.3571946 >>3571920 kind of similar but not really. you aren't pronouncing the u at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:34:33 2009 No.3571947 >>3571943 Well they're really similar anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:36:33 2009 No.3571950 I hear 'un' constantly, I live in France.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:36:33 2009 No.3571952 ITT people fail to realize that written sound and the actual sound can be very different or similar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:36:33 2009 No.3571954 I say un and I'm not a weeaboo so it's a natural human vocalisation.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:36:33 2009 No.3571955

>>3571947

Only in the sense that both are sounds a human can make.

Un is sharp and short and has an audible vowel-like part in it. It really sounds like somebody trying to say "un" without opening her mouth. It's also very clearly a confirmation.

Mmmm is just a steady drone of one sound, and it doesn't mean anything until morphed into the mmmhmmm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:37:33 2009 No.3571957 And "mmm" doesn't even mean yes. It's just what you say when someone's talking to you but you aren't really paying attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:37:33 2009 No.3571959 >>3571952 ITT people fail to realize that un is a very common vocalization that lives outside your animes but you're too much of a shut-in to realize that there's more to the world than japan

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:37:33 2009 No.3571960 >>3571952 Dude, we all KNOW the noise. We've heard it in a hundred animu (and most likely nowhere else). Un is the closest approximation for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:37:33 2009 No.3571961 >>3571955 Mmmmm does have meaning though...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:38:33 2009 No.3571962 Mmm is a little longer and doesn't really have emphasize. The clear rise at the end of "uN!" is seriously an anime thing and if you actually use it then it came from anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:38:33 2009 No.3571963 >>3571954 >he posts on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:38:33 2009 No.3571964 >>3571961 "I'm pondering on what you said for a few seconds now as you can tell by this sound I am making."

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:38:33 2009 No.3571965 >>3571959 derp derp

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:39:33 2009 No.3571967 >>3571964 yeah otherwise they might think you didn't hear or some other thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:39:33 2009 No.3571969 >>3571957 >And "mmm" doesn't even mean yes. It's just what you say when someone's talking to you but you aren't really paying attention. Oh, like... "I see," "Uh huh," "Mmhmm," "Sure," "Okay," "Yeah," or... a bunch of other shit which means "Yes."

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:41:33 2009 No.3571973 >>3571969 Not really, just that you acknowledge what the person said

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:41:33 2009 No.3571974 >>3571969 Cool attempt to combine two completely different things bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:42:33 2009 No.3571976 "What" and "Whuh" are entirely different, too! The second has a very slightly different sound and doesn't have a t at the end! See, not even close! Totally unrelated! I have no idea how they came to mean the same thing!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:43:33 2009 No.3571980 >>3571976 Now you're just being stupid.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:44:33 2009 No.3571983

>>3571962
I don't use it I just tried and I fucking can't but I've heard other people making this sound (not always for confirmation though), they can't be all using it because they saw it in an anime since I'm pretty sure none of them watch it to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:45:33 2009 No.3571985 >>3571980 So you're calling something which is exactly the same as what you have been saying "stupid," thereby admitting you are stupid. Good, we're getting somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:47:33 2009 No.3571992 >>3571957 >>3571973 I think it depends. I don't say much in real life, and most people seem to take "Nn-" and a small nod as confirmation when I'm buying food or something. This is quite a silly thing to argue about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:47:33 2009 No.3571993 Its an affirmative grunt, get over it. In b4 someone says grunts sounds like [INSERT PHONETIC HERE]

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:48:33 2009 No.3571996

>>3571985

Cut that out, you're only embarrassing yourself. This conversation operates far above your kindergarten debate tactics.

"Whuh" is a corruption of "what". One is literally the same word as the other, just said wrong.

"Mmm" does not have its root at "yes", or any other word, and it is not a confirmation. It's a sign that you're listening at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:48:33 2009 No.3571998 Chinese people actually use that sound for confirmation in casual speak, there's even a specific hanzi for it as >>3571842 Mr Five Corner Square pointed out. It helps if your first language is a tonal language

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:49:33 2009 No.3572002 >>3571998 Chinese people clearly stole it from anime.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:50:33 2009 No.3572005

A male attempting "un" comes out as a manly grunt.
A female trying it will make the animu noise. Of course, few people actually use it where I live (Australia, I know 2 people who use it occasionally as confirmation).

You've gotta realise that not everyone, everywhere, has the same vocal patterns as your local people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:51:33 2009 No.3572008 Asians may use it in real life. Westerners don't, unless you're a gigantic weeaboo on the kimono-wearing level.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:51:33 2009 No.3572011 How is un different from any other single syllable word?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:52:33 2009 No.3572014 >>3572011 An interesting question. At face value, I'd say because they consist of a different syllable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:52:33 2009 No.3572018 >>3572011 For starters, it's not a word, it's a noise. Also, see >>3572008

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:53:33 2009 No.3572023 >>3572011 Americans seem to think they're the entire world and they apparently can't make a simple sound.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:54:33 2009 No.3572029 >>3572018 How is it not a syllable, and yes, its a given that its a noise. So is a syllable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:55:33 2009 No.3572033 >>3572029 I didn't say it's not a syllable, I said it's not a WORD. The word "word" has a specific meaning. Just any random noise a human can make does not qualify.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:56:33 2009 No.3572041 >>3572033 Do you even know what the fuck a word is?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:57:33 2009 No.3572045 God damn I hate you guys sometimes. The argument ended here >>3572005. Actually it probably ended way before that but you're continuing to be stubborn faggots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:58:33 2009 No.3572049 I know someone who does it as a way to say no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:58:33 2009 No.3572050 >>3572033 >Implying that the noise "un" lacks semantic meaning, and is a noise that can not be understood to have any meaning by the listener, making it not a word.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 04:59:33 2009 No.3572054 >>3572052 Why did I laugh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:00:33 2009 No.3572057 >>3571996 Nice job refuting that argument, there. It's a shame that no one ever made it. Read my post again.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:01:33 2009 No.3572061

>>3572050

Let's see you use "un" as a part of a sentence.

>>3572045

The guy you linked said nothing interesting. We know Asians use this in real life. We're debating whether there is any westerner in the world who does, and whether that person should be punched in the throat for being a gigantic weeaboo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:02:33 2009 No.3572066 >>3572054 Because you find it both funny and sad that the OP probably could have just used the text "un" and have this thread get 209 replies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:02:33 2009 No.3572070 >>3572061 The entire western world does not consist of your little American town, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:03:33 2009 No.3572071 >>3572061 >where I live (Australia, I know 2 people who use it occasionally as confirmation).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:03:33 2009 No.3572072 >>3572057 >It's a shame that no one ever made it. >>3571969 >>3571976

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:04:33 2009 No.3572075 Stop defending your gay anime habits, for fuck's sake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:04:33 2009 No.3572077 >>3572061 Un(affirmative grunt), (insert something indicating agreement)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:04:33 2009 No.3572078 >>3572061 >We're debating Only if "I'm going to ignore your actual post, make something up, and say you're wrong" counts as debating.

>>	CINERIA !DoLLFaGERs Mon Oct 19 05:05:33 2009 No.3572080 >>3572005 holy shit get out of my general area

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:05:33 2009 No.3572082 File: 705 KB, 800x754, 6718609.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Debate this: Fish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:06:33 2009 No.3572084 >>3572072 Two separate posts arguing separate points which, if taken as a single post arguing a single point, might be stretched to be vaguely similar to the argument you made up on the spot. That's nice

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:06:33 2009 No.3572085

>>3572077

Not a sentence. You won't find un in any dictionary either, just like you won't find mmhmm, brlrlrlr or the fart sound. Guess why? Because they are NOT FUCKING WORDS. They are GRUNTS. Grunts can convey meaning but they lack the other characteristics of a word.

Are you arguing that screaming in pain is a word too, just because it conveys a meaning ("I am in great pain!")?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:07:33 2009 No.3572090 >>3572082 I've caught fish like this before. I swear I did it before I saw Touhou characters in Gensokyo doing it. It's just natural.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:07:33 2009 No.3572092 >>3572084 Are you seriously just hoping that nobody actually reads this thread? Cut it out. Your argument was a house of cards and was blown away by the wind. Give it up and move on with your life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:07:33 2009 No.3572095 >>3572061 Using a sound like that as a confirmation is very common in my language/country. It's more nasal and the n probably sounds more like m though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:08:33 2009 No.3572099 >>3572090 You have never worked for your meal in your life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:08:42 2009 No.3572096 >>3572090 You have never worked for own meal in your life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:09:33 2009 No.3572104 >>3572090 That ain't Gensokyo, bub. I can tell because of the bridge and by having seen quite a few bridges in my time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:09:33 2009 No.3572109 >>3572092 >You're wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong! I'm not going to try to come up with a counterargument because you're just so wrong that I don't even need to show you why! YOU'RE WRONG! Fascinating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:10:33 2009 No.3572112 >>3572109 Greentext, the last refuge of the defeated. GG.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:11:33 2009 No.3572113 I don't think I've ever heard an English speaker use un, but it's very clearly a real Japanese word. Anyone who thinks it's only used in anime is an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:12:33 2009 No.3572120 >>3572113 >word You mean a grunt/confirmation noise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:12:33 2009 No.3572121 >>3572112 >You're wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong! As proof, I offer this completely unrelated factoid which has nothing at all to do with the content of your argument! So there! That's nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:13:33 2009 No.3572124 >>3572099 >>3572104 Please don't try to tell me about my life. This artist just copied me. Catching fish like this is natural around my area (I have seen two people catch fish like this in real life.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:13:33 2009 No.3572127 >>3572113 I don't recall any post saying anything of the sort.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:14:33 2009 No.3572130 UN! is so stupid. I'd prefer if little girls in anime went aaruugghhaa???? like Tim Allen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:14:33 2009 No.3572131 File: 63 KB, 640x480, 1254246650177.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you're all fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:14:33 2009 No.3572133 My niece does it constantly, she uses it for nearly everything, mostly for attention though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:14:33 2009 No.3572134 >>3572130 This doesn't sound so bad to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:14:33 2009 No.3572136 UN + A NOD IS YES.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:14:33 2009 No.3572137 >>3572121 sigh Okay, I'll play your ridiculous game for a second. Maybe you do have some kind of a communication disorder. What is your argument, if not what was defeated at >>3571996 ?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:15:33 2009 No.3572142

>>3572085
By linguistic definition, its a word.

>A word is the smallest free form (an item that may be uttered in isolation with semantic or pragmatic content) in a language, in contrast to a morpheme, which is the smallest unit of meaning. A word may consist of only one morpheme (e.g. wolf)

It can be uttered, has meaning, and can be used in isolation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:16:33 2009 No.3572146 File: 11 KB, 463x271, 1191136638113.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GET OUT OF HERE YOU FUCKING WEEABOOS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:17:33 2009 No.3572148 Jesus Christ, why are you arguing over semantics? If you're going to argue over such a retarded thing, at least stay on topic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:17:33 2009 No.3572150 >>3572124 I wasn't telling you about your life (unless you live in Gensokyo); I was instead informing you that what you claimed was Gensokyo is not, in fact, Gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:17:33 2009 No.3572151 >>3572148 No, fuck you.

>>	tristan !tzara749YA Mon Oct 19 05:18:33 2009 No.3572157 It's actually an interjection but carry on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:18:33 2009 No.3572159 >>3572142 So your argument boils down to: "un" is as much of a word as "AAAAAARGGGGGHHHHHHHHH" or "pbrlllllrrrt"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:19:33 2009 No.3572160 >>3572120 No I mean a word. If it shows up in a Japanese dictionary I think it's safe to call it a word. >>3572127 Some of the earlier posts certainly implied as much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:19:33 2009 No.3572162 File: 289 KB, 600x668, 1253429777438.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] once again, i repeat - you're all fucking re-tard-ed

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:20:33 2009 No.3572170

>>3572137
There are two, mostly unrelated arguments, as everyone but you can probably tell.

1) "It's used to indicate that you're listening" is not a good argument against "mm" being used as a confirmation noise, since many (other) confirmation noises, phrases, and words also serve this purpose.

2) "Mm" and "un" are phonetically similar. The minor differences in sound don't amount to anything more than the minor differences between "what" and "whuh," which, as you have said yourself, are the same fucking word.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:21:33 2009 No.3572178 >>3572160 More like, it was implied that it's impossible for a westerner to hear this sound outside anime. But that's bunk of course, you can hear it if you take a trip to Japan too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:22:33 2009 No.3572181 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:22:33 2009 No.3572185 >>3572181 >>3572157

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:23:33 2009 No.3572192 >>3572159 Augh is usually an involuntary grunt, lacking semantic meaning.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:24:33 2009 No.3572194

>>3572170
>1) "It's used to indicate that you're listening" is not a good argument against "mm" being used as a confirmation noise, since many (other) confirmation noises, phrases, and words also serve this purpose.

All dogs are mammals, ergo all mammals are dogs?

Please bear in mind this:
1) "Mmmmm" is not used to confirm. It's only used as a "listening indicator".
2) "Un" is not used as a listening indicator. It is only used as a confirmation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:25:33 2009 No.3572198 >>3572192 When I hear augh I generally turn around to see who's hurt and why. Maybe I'm weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:27:33 2009 No.3572208 >>3572194 >1) "Mmmmm" is not used to confirm. It's only used as a "listening indicator". It's dependent on the context and gestures. What the fuck is wrong with all of you.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:28:33 2009 No.3572212

>>3572194
>All dogs are mammals, ergo all mammals are dogs?
All dogs are mammals, so it's stupid to say (as you effectively did) that something is not a mammal because it's a dog.

Of course, that still isn't what I originally said, but I don't want to spend time correcting every one of your inane "misunderstandings." Quotes because you're probably doing it intentionally.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:28:33 2009 No.3572215 >>3572198 But it doesn't necessarily have semantic meaning.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:29:33 2009 No.3572217

>>3572208

You seem to be confusing mmmm with mmmhmm.

Mmmm is a steady droning sound. Mmmmhmmm has the rise near the end, and is sometimes used to confirm.

"Un!" is usually accompanied with an enthusiastic nod, and I'm pretty sure I have never seen it used to signify anything other than "Yes! Let's do that!" despite being an anime_expert (watched more than 5 anime fully).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:29:33 2009 No.3572219 >>3572178 Maybe that's true in English speaking countries but those only cover a fraction of western countries. I can hear confirmation sound not different from Japanese un used regularly in my western country.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:29:33 2009 No.3572222 >>3572215 >semantic meaning Points off for redundancy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:30:33 2009 No.3572230 >>3572219 You're a liar

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:30:33 2009 No.3572231 >>3572212 It is perfectly valid to say that Un and Mmmm are not similar if one is used to confirm and the other isn't. The existence of a third word that's used for both purposes does not change this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:30:33 2009 No.3572232 >>3572217 >(watched more than 5 anime fully) Is this some sort of reference? Please tell me this is some sort of reference.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:31:33 2009 No.3572236

>>3572219
>Maybe that's true in English speaking countries but those only cover a fraction of western countries. I can hear confirmation sound not different from Japanese un used regularly in my western country.

Good job being incredibly vague and hard to trust.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:31:33 2009 No.3572237 >>3572194 >2) "Un" is not used as a listening indicator. It is only used as a confirmation. Yes it is. So it hai, in formal situations. Just like "mmhmm" and "uh huh" can both be used as "yes" and "I'm following/listening to you"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:34:33 2009 No.3572260 >>3572231 >...similar... Phonetically similar. Meaning is irrelevant. Bring this up one more time and I will consider it a concession of the entire "debate." >...one means... Zero evidence provided. Don't post again until you have some.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:37:33 2009 No.3572272 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9lZSqoTRE I was hoping to find the exact scene in the OP on youtubes. I'm giving up on that search, but there's a male "un" about three minutes in. Sounds more like "ugh".

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:37:33 2009 No.3572276 >>3572232 Get the fuck out.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:39:33 2009 No.3572280

By the way, I don't need to provide evidence that "mm" can be used as confirmation. Well, sort of. My argument's very existence is strong enough evidence when not opposed by some damning counter-evidence--I think it can, and the meaning of a word is based entirely on what people think it means. Unless you show that (almost) no one else in the English-speaking world thinks it can be used as a confirmation, I have already won.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:39:33 2009 No.3572281 >>3572272 I am so gay for him it hurts.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:40:33 2009 No.3572283

>>3572260
>Phonetically similar. Meaning is irrelevant. Bring this up one more time and I will consider it a concession of the entire "debate."

Wait, WHAT? You were arguing about how they sound this all time? What the fuck is wrong with you? Anybody can tell they sound different and yes, what and whuh also sound different! The very fact that you write them in two different ways makes them phonetically dissimilar!

Jesus.

As for the other point, how about you provide an example of the single-note, droning "mmm" used as a confirmation and I fucking concede it's done by somebody, somewhere in the world. I have certainly never encountered such a thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:41:33 2009 No.3572287 >>3572280 So you're using the Devil's proof, and asking for Hempel's raven?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:43:33 2009 No.3572298 >>3572283 see >>3571933 and all of the other posts following that one in conversation. You're just a stupid faggot for not realizing sooner.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:46:33 2009 No.3572309

>>3572298

None of them mentioned it being used as confirmation, they just said they hear it, and lumped it with two other distinct sounds (un and hm).

Really, the very fact that you write them in so completely different ways should clue you in on that they don't sound similar.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:49:33 2009 No.3572321

>>3572283
>the single-note, droning "mmm"
You made this up. No one except you ever said anything specifying "single-note" or "droning."

>>3572287
No. We're arguing over the usage of a sound. If I think a sound means something, that's very strong evidence that it has been used that way, since most other conclusions would involve me being very delusional.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:51:33 2009 No.3572329 >>3572309 >Really, the very fact that you write them in so completely different ways should clue you in on that they don't sound similar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:52:33 2009 No.3572333

>>3572321
>You made this up. No one except you ever said anything specifying "single-note" or "droning."

The distinction first came up at >>3571936 and was repeated at >>3571945 and further down the thread at >>3572217 . Probably in other places too.

Mmmmmm signifies a single-note droning sound like the one the singer makes in the Crash Test Dummies song Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm. Mmmhmm is the "mm crossed with uhhuh" sound.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:53:33 2009 No.3572336 >>3572321 >most other conclusions would involve me being very delusional. Or just unable to admit you're wrong, an extremely common trait in humans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:54:33 2009 No.3572338 >>3572333 >The distinction first came up at >>3571936 Penis is delicious. The first claim of this was in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan..

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:54:33 2009 No.3572339 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WbwwhBmRk

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 05:58:33 2009 No.3572355

>>3572336
I'm wrong?

I'm wrong about the meaning of a word?

You think that's relevant? If someone thinks a word means something, it has almost certainly been used that way before. If someone thinks "ironic" means "coincidental," it's because they have read and heard people using it that way. They didn't pull it out of their ass any more than I pulled "mm is a confirmation" out of mine.

It is safe to conclude, since I am convinced that it IS a confirmation, that I have read or heard it used that way. If I have read or heard it used that way, I've won this argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:10:33 2009 No.3572389 >>3572355 congratulations

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:10:33 2009 No.3572392 >>3572355 Devil's proof is so unfair.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:11:33 2009 No.3572396 >>3572389 I imagined the SSBM announcer saying that. Fucking hell.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:37:33 2009 No.3572473

>>3572355
>This just in: words don't have meanings, there is no wright and wrong, the sky is yellow if I decide that's what yellow means

I guess that's as much of a concession I'm going to squeeze out of you. I'll take it, it's been swell.

One thing before we wrap up this disaster of a thread: can you tell me what sound you thought "mmm" was when we were talking about it? Show a youtube clip, perhaps? Not asking for "evidence" here, I'm asking because you apparently used it to signify an entirely different sound I did, and I honestly have no fucking clue what that sound could be.

So if you didn't mean the sound in the video at >>3572339 when you typed "mmm", can you tell or show me WHAT sound it was you meant?

Is it the "mmm-hm" sound, with the sharp rise at the end? That one is a confirmation, I agree with that. Or something else?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:39:33 2009 No.3572483 >>3572339 UN UN UN UN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:39:33 2009 No.3572487 >>3572473 >This just in: words don't have meanings, there is no wright and wrong, the sky is yellow if I decide that's what yellow means Sarcasm isn't supposed to be used for true statements, bro.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:42:33 2009 No.3572498

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:45:33 2009 No.3572513 it wasn't a bad thread, i learned that arrrgh is a word

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 06:57:33 2009 No.3572574

UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:02:33 2009 No.3572604 >>3572574 Well? I'm listening to UN Owen. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW, THREAD?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:04:33 2009 No.3572613 File: 35 KB, 230x230, unown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3572604 UN Owen wasn't actually her. It was this guy.

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Mon Oct 19 07:17:33 2009 No.3572660 I use "mmhmm".

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:12:33 2009 No.3572968 I think "Un" is the most stupid anime grunt there is. Nobody fucking talks like that, it's typical anime bullshit. Also annoys me they always put that retarded （⌒‿⌒）face on a girl when they say it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:14:33 2009 No.3572971 >>3572968 Sorry, you're four hours late. Try again next time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:15:33 2009 No.3572974 its not 'un', its n, but just writing 'n' looks stupid in english

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:20:33 2009 No.3572984 >>3572974 I've seen some anime where they very clearly pronounced the U. So bad that you actually have to open your mouth in real life to mimic it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:22:33 2009 No.3572989 >>3572984 Could be a dialectical thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:28:33 2009 No.3573008 File: 55 KB, 238x257, tenshi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] うｎ

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:36:33 2009 No.3573036 >>3571853 Looks like you live in a cardboard box.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:37:33 2009 No.3574320 un!

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