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3542325 No.3542325 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people think that being a manchild is a bad thing?

Being able to enjoy VNs and videogames at the age of 24 is something to be proud of if you ask me. I pity the people who waste their precious free time and money on friends and girlfriends just because society tells them they should. A truly free and happy man knows how to close the curtains and spend the entire day on their computer doing whatever the hell he wants. No worries of social pressure. Merely bliss.

>> No.3542332

The janitor is on right now. He already deleted 2 pages worth of topics.

You can kiss this thread goodbye.

>> No.3542335

The funniest part is that they don't even *have* friends. Not really. The people they call "friends" are really just acquaintances they happen to be around a lot. They don't really know each other and they avoid any sort of meaningful discussion just to "preserve the friendship" by avoiding any potential for disagreement.

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I hear ya. Taking it easy and pissing on the floor is the life. Seriously.

The things that stand-up comedians talk about for laughs is my life. Well, the things that don't involve women or drugs/alcohol.

>> No.3542349

>>3542335
This is very true. I've learned that most people with lots of friends are usually not really happy with them, but they avoid telling them what bothers them about each other, just so they won't lose their friendship.

>> No.3542350

>>3542340
Se you're a politician with a lot of Mexican friends?

>> No.3542356

>>3542335
I remember back in HS when I had "friends". I never really enjoyed being with any of them, I just didn't want to look like a loser when lunch time came around.

College made me realize what a massive waste of time they really are now that I have the choice of living on my own by my own rules. Screw other people, they're all just kissing ass to climb up their invisible social ladder. I prefer sitting snuggly at the bottom while they claw each other just to get up another inch.

>> No.3542361

>>3542350
I meant good comedians with witty jokes.

Not fags like Mencia or Letterman who just make cheap racial/political shots and watch the sheep laugh it up.

>> No.3542366

>>3542361
I didn't know there were any.

>> No.3542370

>>3542325
Exactly. Life is good.

>> No.3542371

>>3542356
Sounds like you just didn't have any real friends. Were you one of those "must hide powerlevel" people?

Just be yourself!

Of course, I guess different places give people different experience.

>> No.3542374

Can I live off the land?

>> No.3542390

>>3542374
Does the land have wireless internet?

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>>3542325

>Why do people think that being a manchild is a bad thing?

Because, in the evolutionary scheme of things, you are essentially marking yourself up to be less than human and worthy of permanent removal from the gene pool. There is nothing less abhorrent than an adult who has not matured mentally - see the late Michael Jackson for more.

Therefore, if you are a manchild, you are probably not even worthy of voicing your opinions since you refuse to actively participate in society and handle the various inconvenient events that accompany it.

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>>3542402

To sum it up, one thousand years ago all manchildren would have died before they could even grow old enough to become figure aficionados on the Internet.

Meanwhile, the mentally mature men and women would be out propagating their genes and advancing the world.

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>>3542413
>>3542325

>Cont'd.

>Why do people think that being a manchild is a bad thing?

Because, in the evolutionary scheme of things, you are essentially marking yourself up to be less than human and worthy of permanent removal from the gene pool. There is nothing more abhorrent than an adult who has not matured mentally - see the late Michael Jackson for more.

Therefore, if you are a manchild, you are probably not even worthy of voicing your opinions since you refuse to actively participate in society and handle the various inconvenient events that accompany it.

>> No.3542439 [DELETED] 

C.S. Lewis
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

C.S. Lewis is a true bro.

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>>3542413
>>3542420

>> No.3542446

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

C.S. Lewis is a true bro.

>> No.3542449

>>3542420
>you are probably not even worthy of voicing your opinions

Protip: Not everyone is a tripfag attention whore who thinks he's an 'epic troll XD" like you. Any true NEET doesn't care whether his opinion is heard or not, because true NEETs care only about themselves and the maintenance of their lifestyle.

>Meanwhile, the mentally mature men and women would be out propagating their genes and advancing the world.

This is what normalfags really think.

>> No.3542452

>>3542420
I don't give a shit what those people think. They never gave me a chance, I fucking hate everyone who looks down on and ridicules NEETs.

>> No.3542460

>>3542413
>the mentally mature men and women would be out propagating their genes and advancing the world

What about the fact that the middle class are having less children while the lower classes are having the most children? Doesn't really take mental maturity to sweep floors and flip burgers at McDonalds.

>> No.3542461

>>3542413
>>3542420

>Because, in the evolutionary scheme of things, you are essentially marking yourself up to be less than human and worthy of permanent removal from the gene pool. There is nothing more abhorrent than an adult who has not matured mentally - see the late Michael Jackson for more.

Please relearn your knowledge of natural selection.

By forsaking reproduction (which does NOT necessitate any personality) you classify as a failed organism.
By reproducing (which has little impact based in personality and more based in situation), you classify as a successful organism.

As such, Michael Jackson was a successful organism.

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>>3542452
>>3542449

All I know is that if the first few Paleolithic humans had gone and locked themselves up in their Caves and fapped to cave-wall drawings instead of hunting, fishing, mating, and such, there would be no human race today.

Good thing? Bad thing? You decide.

>> No.3542468

An adult is a person who wishes to be a child again, to relive there childhood either out of regrets for actions spent inappropriately, or merely because they wish to enjoy the pleasures and courtesy's granted to them by youth.

A child is one who wishes to be an adult, merely because they believe it to be the most appropriate thing for them to be, and that by becoming an adult they will be more complete as an individual.

I wonder, does an adult that wishes to be a child once again also wish to be an adult merely so they may wish to be a child?

>> No.3542470

>>3542446
>C.S. Lewis is a true bro.
Except for that whole hardcore evangelist thing.

>> No.3542472

>>3542449
>>3542452
It just dawned on me that NEET is legion xD people are the normalfags who want to be appart of something beyond themselves.
>>3542413
>>3542420
Don't ever change, beautiful

>> No.3542473

>>3542465

They'd still be able to reproduce, we might have just became herbivores, though.

>> No.3542475

>>3542413
>Meanwhile, the mentally mature men and women would be out propagating their genes and advancing the world.

Whats the point, you only have one life, it's not like you're going to come back from the grave to visit your great-great-grandchild and say DAMN SON IM PROUD. Instead you'll be rotting in the ground, in the grand scheme of things, everything will die out in the end anyway. Might as well enjoy this life and not giving a fuck about others, since it's all futile.

Survivors, enjoy the universal heat death.

>> No.3542483

>>3542460

>Class systems

This, I think, is more of a political issue.

> Please relearn your knowledge of natural selection.

No, that's not what we are discussing here.

We are discussing the populous nature of humanity, and the value of the human as a social animal.

>> No.3542484

>>3542472
Get out. Never come back. Hopefully die.

>> No.3542485
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>> No.3542486

>>3542465
Evolution happens because things change. Where we are today, I am fully convinced that "manchildren" are the future of the species.

>> No.3542487

>>3542465
It is neither a good nor bad thing.

Natural selection simply occurs, like the pull of gravity or the water cycle. A results of a mindless process without a purpose can't be objectively good or bad.

>> No.3542488

>>3542483

You mentioned them being "less than human in the evolutionary scheme of things", and I said so long as one reproduces, one's personality has absolutely no impact on the evolutionary scheme of things.

>> No.3542495

>>3542488

No, that's you trying to regain face value. Try again.

>>3542486

From what you're saying, the future of humanity is eventual extinction. Not that you're changing much there, I assure you. At least it's better than a nuclear holocaust.

>>3542487

>It is neither a good nor bad thing.

Precisely.

>> No.3542496

>>3542487
That's not true. Objective good and bad are relative, but I think it's still fair to say they exist.

Relative to the process itself, they are not objectively good or bad. Relative to humanity, however, it is possible to make a decision either way.

Subjective good and bad are just stupid, of course.

>> No.3542498

Who the fuck cares about "passing on their genes"? Are you that afraid of death?

>> No.3542499

>>3542495

>No, that's you trying to regain face value. Try again.

... What? Re-read the very brief exchange of words.

>> No.3542501

Humanity soul is being weighted down by the gravity of the earth!

Until humanity finishes its migration into space there will always be conflict!

oh wait wrong debate

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>> No.3542505

>>3542335
I know someone like this.
He acts like a friend when he wants to but when shit gets serious he just says fuck it and does whatever he wants.
He's even told me once that if he wants he can just go out and get new friends.

He is currently in a lousy relationship with a girl who he latched onto literally the moment they met.
I say "relationship" even though they're married because they got married only after like a month after they met and it's not the first time it's happened.

I doubt he even knows the girl very well.
He's desperate for any girl that will give him the time and he's fallen into the sex=good relationship trap.

One day he's going to be really fucked and he's going to learn the hard way just how shallow his friendships are.

>> No.3542506

>>3542465
DOHOHOH NOT MUCH PEOPLE BACK THEN.
YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

>> No.3542507

>>3542499

Enough. Your pretended ignorance fools no-one.

>> No.3542512 [DELETED] 

>>3542321
stop spammin ur crappy boerd on Дnoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's ur ip's lulz ur not relly anonimus enjoy ur party v& u monkey's

>> No.3542509

>>3542495
>From what you're saying, the future of humanity is eventual extinction.
Not at all. Competition with other species is no longer necessary, so the competitive nature of most all other humans is mostly disadvantageous for the species. The idea is that those who do not compete will stand back and function as parasites while the host society kills itself off. From there, we will adjust our farming techniques and so on as necessary to eliminate the need for a host society, and that's that.

>> No.3542510

Oh boy I love social darwinism

>> No.3542511

>>3542507

You seem to have mistaken one faceless opponent for another, or mistook my meaning in the first place. I was noting your misuse or misunderstanding of "the evolutionary scheme of things".

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>> No.3542517

>>3542505
That guy sounds like real life Shinji.

>> No.3542520

>>3542465
Selective pressures also change based on the environment in which the organism lives.

The traits selected on back in the Paleolithic days are thus radically different from the ones today. Every single member of a band of hunter-gathering pre-historic humans had to participate in society due to absolute necessity. Otherwise, their tribe would die out due to shortage of food, resources, etc.

If we contrast this to what we have in modernized society, there is a very obvious difference. Resources are readily available, enough even for leeching NEETs to survive (of course also depends on socio-economic background). Furthermore, being a NEET does not necessarily affect reproductive success. I think we can agree that women nowadays select a lot based on looks and confidence.

>> No.3542525

>>3542507
One does not need mental maturity to procreate.
Every animal can do it. It haven't anything to do with humans being social beings.
Enjoy praising your monkeys.

>> No.3542526

>>3542520
>I think we can agree that women nowadays select a lot based on looks and confidence.
I think I heard about some study where they showed that women actually do place (perceived) intelligence as the highest priority in men, on average.

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>> No.3542534

>>3542520

> Furthermore, being a NEET does not necessarily affect reproductive success. I think we can agree that women nowadays select a lot based on looks and confidence

Incidentally, NEETs are unattractive, unfit, lack muchly in confidence, and their moral fibers are woefully lacking at best.

Before you try to assuage me by saying that you're ripped like a Greek God because of your frequent masturbation, I seriously doubt that one single bowl of ramen can support that. Neither is masturbation enough exercise to significantly make a difference.

Secondly, confident people do not rage on messageboards needlessly over what other people do. A confident person would not even preoccupy themselves with what 'normalfags' are up to.

>> No.3542539

>>3542534
So you're saying you're lacking in confidence just because you're paying attention to us? Uh-huh...

>> No.3542541

Excuse me?
The qualification of an individual organism as successful or unsuccessful on a basis of it's ability to reproduce holds very little ground when the species as a whole has absolutely no problem breeding like rats.

It is such, in my understanding, that humans as a species were qualifiable to be indisputably successful.

In our society today, mankind faces no risk of a lack of diversification in it's genetic traits or the lack of future generations being born.

It is not necessary for us, on an individual level, to procreate.

There is nothing saying we can't be manchildren if we want to.

>> No.3542542

The evolutionary argument is beginning to lose its basis in the reality of developed countries. A shift is happening from a concentration on progeny to the desire to live as long as possible, in the freest way possible, while imprinting your experience and consciousness on others through interaction and various media as a way of preserving yourself in the long run. Natural evolution works at a snail's pace, while technological and societal evolution is blasting ahead exponentially.

Still early to say for certain the result of taking evolution into our own hands, but it seems like the human experience is changing, evolving beyond the restrictions of biology. Regardless, you're still a biological organism with biological needs. Neglecting them will do you no good psychologically in the long run. Homo sapiens is gregarious. There's no getting past that. If you aren't gregarious, don't be surprised as being seen as abnormal by members of your species. It isn't natural.

>> No.3542543

>>3542534

This doesn't prevent reproduction via rape or seminal donation.

>> No.3542544

Well, I wish I could spend my entire day in front of my computer but my mom don't want me back so I must work my ass off to pay my taxes and other daily expenses.

>> No.3542548

>>3542534
>Before you try to assuage me by saying that you're ripped like a Greek God because of your frequent masturbation, I seriously doubt that one single bowl of ramen can support that. Neither is masturbation enough exercise to significantly make a difference.

HAHAHA that's pretty funny I gotta admit, it doesn't take much to make me laugh.

>> No.3542551

>>3542534
>unattractive
I've turned down a few girls before, and I consider myself fairly attractive.
>unfit
Haha, good one. Genes have been good to me. There's not much fat on my body, but then again there's no muscle on it either. As expected from someone who doesn't go to a gym.
>lack muchly in confidence
Wohohoh, easy there. Just because I don't talk to people doesn't mean I have low self-confidence. Tell me what you're basing this measurement of confidence on in the first place.
>moral fibers are woefully lacking
Well okay, maybe a little.

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>> No.3542556

>>3542534
>>NEETs are weak wimps and you can't prove me wrong coz' internet.

You talk as if women wouldn't open their dirty pussyholes to wimpy men frequently, while they can fake their confidence.

>> No.3542559

If you don't procreate you're doing a service to not only humanity but all of life in the world.

>> No.3542560

>>3542484
Let's get beyond this NEET is legion shit.
You're just as much a conniving, petty bastard as the rest of us you emotionally weak peasant. You are not special, just inept.

>> No.3542562

>>3542551
BTW not even the guy you're replying to, I'm just saying that I think it's pretty ignorant to think that all NEETs are as you think. It's not the case for me and probably not the case for a lot of other people.

>> No.3542565

>>3542543

>Rape

I can't see a manchild having the ability to rape anyone. Rape requires a level of physical strength[if you're trying to rape someone worthwhile. A retarded girl might not resist, but then you're only furthering your failure]

>>3542541

>There is nothing saying we can't be manchildren if we want to.

Of course. No one's said that you can't be a manchild, but it's generally something you don't want to be unless you're significantly retarded and/or detached from reality enough. It ensures that you're in the bottom run of society, forever.

>> No.3542569

Why does the janitor delete all threads but this one?

>> No.3542570

>>3542565

>I can't see a manchild having the ability to rape anyone. Rape requires a level of physical strength[if you're trying to rape someone worthwhile. A retarded girl might not resist, but then you're only furthering your failure]

Status does not matter. Re-read >>3542461.

>> No.3542573

I'm unfit and that detracts a bit from my attractiveness, but I have naturally decent features, so I'd say I'm still within acceptable range for many on that front.

My confidence and moral fiber are some of the best around. I often get criticized for being "straight edge, Puritanical, moralist" and "arrogant, elitist" along with other, similar terms.

>> No.3542581

how do we interpret the term "manchild" anyway? someone mentally retarded or deluded? or someone who dislikes the daily "politics" of everyday life?

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>> No.3542586

>>3542526
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2007/08/09/study_iq_linked_to_virginity.aspx

According to this study, it seems to be the exact opposite. People with higher IQs tend to be virgins more than those with lower IQs.

Perceived intelligence is the key factor, not actual intelligence. If we are to assume that IQs are an accurate measure of intelligence (haha), it may be that those with lower IQs are better at making themselves appear more intelligent than those who actually are intelligent. Thus, women place a high priority on men who are the best at maintaining the image of intelligence.

>> No.3542590

>>3542573
>"straight edge, Puritanical, moralist" and "arrogant, elitist"

That is pretty good, I just get "fucked in the head".

>> No.3542594

>>3542573

>My confidence and moral fiber are some of the best around. I often get criticized for being "straight edge, Puritanical, moralist" and "arrogant, elitist" along with other, similar terms.

If you truly have the moral fiber to commit yourself to these things, then exercise should be nothing for you.

No excuses. I'm a pothead and I still go to the gym every weekday. I can run three miles with collapsing. I can lift heavy objects without straining.
By that logic, a superior being like you should be ten times as fit as myself. There is no call for you to be unfit, and this goes doubly for you if you have the confidence in yourself that you claim to possess.

>> No.3542601

>>3542594
>with collapsing
Hope you break your neck someday.

>> No.3542602

>>3542594

>There is no call for you to be unfit

What if he has no interest to be?

>> No.3542605

>>3542586
Or it could be that intelligent men are better at maintaining their virginity until they find a woman actually worthy of bearing their children.

But that's just what I like to think...

>> No.3542608

Screw the gene pool, we're the exception.

All the useless genes that go towards creating offspring are put to use in my gene pool. "I" am the intellectual superior that only manages to sneak through the gene pool on very rare, special occasions. Let the normalfags have their reproductive success at the expense of their happiness like the average scum they are.

>> No.3542614

>>3542594
I have the confidence to not require such a base thing as physical fitness. My mental fitness is unparalleled!

>> No.3542615

All i can say is that i will be enjoying my VNs while you guys will be "building a family" to keep face to society.
Enjoy having your money sucked for the rest of your life, stinky kids who don't give a shit to you and a ugly wife who will never be as good as a 2D girl. And she'll cheat on you too. And take your money.

Failed organism, what the hell? Why should i give a crap about this? Biofags arguments sound like utter social trashtalk to me.
I am grateful for being born in times where i can choose to separate myself of others. I'd have snapped out and killed some of you normalfags already for being so stupid. And jail life is not cool.

>> No.3542618

>>3542601

I did mean to say 'Without', but the 'out' slipped away from my fingers.

>>3542602

If he is as morally upstanding as he claims to be, then the qualities and virtue of having a sound body should be self-evident.

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>> No.3542621

>>3542618

>If he is as morally upstanding as he claims to be, then the qualities and virtue of having a sound body should be self-evident.

He can fully understand the merits and value and still have no desire to be, should he be a whimsical person.

>> No.3542624

>>3542614

>I have the confidence to not require such a base thing as physical fitness.

Do you enjoy exacting untold harm upon your body, then?

Are you aware that slothfulness and the tendency to avoid physical exertion are signs of weak moral fiber?

>> No.3542628

>>3542621

>He can fully understand the merits and value and still have no desire to be, should he be a whimsical person.

Then he cannot call himself a person of strong moral fiber, if he does not act upon his creed.

>> No.3542630

>>3542618
"having a sound body" does not mean "to be a muscled gym faggot". go back to /fit/.

>> No.3542631

>>3542624
just trolls trollin trolls now

>> No.3542632

>>3542621
Whimsical. It's an attractive word, isn't it?

Capricious is cuter, though.

Well, I'm not sure which describes me better... Perhaps I'll give it more thought.

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>> No.3542637

>>3542630

Having a sound body also does not mean being an underfed NEET, or a fat, slothful manchild.

>> No.3542643

>>3542624
>Are you aware that slothfulness and the tendency to avoid physical exertion are signs of weak moral fiber?
Are you aware that a lack of fitness does not necessarily indicate one has a lack of willingness to physically exert oneself?

I have more pressing concerns, and to reconsider based on your accusations would hint at a lack of confidence.

>> No.3542644

>>3542615
you are a true bro man

>> No.3542653

Its okay guys, we'll find women who also didn't grow up and have a family of bisexual pedophiles.

Won't it be beautiful?~

>> No.3542654

What the fuck does it matter if you choose to work yourself to death doing 80 hours a week as an executive in some company or NEET all your life, what matter is that you're happy with your life. You can lie to everyone else but you can't lie to yourself weather not your you're happy. And as long as you're happy, who gives a shit what anyone else says

>> No.3542657

>>3542643
>I have more pressing concerns
I find that hard to believe.

>> No.3542658

>>3542643

>Are you aware that a lack of fitness does not necessarily indicate one has a lack of willingness to physically exert oneself?

Of course. But it does indicate that the individual in question displays loose moral fiber and a tenuous grasp of self-confidence at best.

The confident man or woman upkeeps their body. They view it as a temple that must be paid its due devotions to, and are able to maintain a steady level of activity, grooming, and dressing.

>> No.3542659

>>3542657
Why?

>> No.3542660

>>3542643
>I have more pressing concerns
Like posting on /jp/

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>> No.3542664

>>3542660
Precisely. Can you not comprehend my reasoning?

That's fine.

>> No.3542669

>>3542660
>>3542643
>>3542643

>I have more pressing concerns

Fascinating.

>to reconsider based on your accusations would hint at a lack of confidence.

Inferring that my opinion is an 'accusation' suggests that you are woefully insecure in your own world. A little friendly advice hurts no one.

>> No.3542674

>>3542637
Being fat or slothful does not equals to be a NEET/manchild. Just because 90% of the NEETs are, you can't prove i am.

>> No.3542677

>>3542669
The line between opinion and accusation is, in this case, fictitious.

>> No.3542679

>>3542659
You're posting on /jp/, for one thing.

>> No.3542680

>>3542677

>The line between opinion and accusation is, in this case, fictitious.


Only to someone who lacks self-confidence.

>>3542674

Post your picture. Prove me wrong. Talk is cheap. You could spend the rest of this night convincing me that you have the build of Ronnie Coleman.

>> No.3542685

>>3542679
see
>>3542664
Sennou, sakushu, tora no maki~

>> No.3542686

>>3542666
What a slut, it is physically painful for me to insert more than one finger.

>> No.3542687

>>3542680
Arc, how does not being slothful make one a morally upstanding citizen? I do not see the connection.

>> No.3542688

>>3542680
Why should he have any reason to prove himself to you? Wouldn't that also show a lack of confidence?

>> No.3542694

>>3542685
Oh, I see your point now.

>> No.3542695

>>3542686
The anus and the vagina work differently, bro.

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>>3542694
You do?

>> No.3542762

>>3542615

>doesn't want to have a family
>plays a game like family project

>laughing elf man.png

>> No.3542790

>>3542452
Looking down on NEETs is somewhat understandable. If it was okay to be a NEET, there would be too many of them and then society wouldnt work.

>> No.3542800

>>3542762
Just like 2D girls are vastly superior to 3D girls, 2D families are better than 3D ones.

>> No.3542801

>>3542790
It is okay to be a NEET. What gives you the impression that it isn't? It works, doesn't it?

>> No.3542814

>>3542801
I meant that its not okay by the standards of society.

>> No.3542820

>>3542790
I doubt people dislike NEETs because they are acting in society's best interest.

It's just petty distaste.

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>> No.3542837

>>3542762
>plays a game like family project
The closest thing i played to Family Project is Clannad, and i can see how a family would be a good thing having a girl as Nagisa.
But girls out there are not like the 2D girls and I am not interested in the 3D ones, too. Fantasy and reality are very different things.

>> No.3542868 [DELETED] 

The believe the true ideal for all of us should be a life where we still maintain our hobbies while exerting the bare minimum level of participation in society necessary to reap the benefits of social living.

That means buckling down and getting some kind of job to pay the bills, talking to people when necessary, and going outside. If you need to, remind yourself that you are doing these things because they are in your best self-interest, not because you actually want to or enjoy doing these things. You need to carry out these actions in order to maximize your own benefit. Helping society is just a by-product.

After you achieve the bare minimum of sociality necessary to survive in modern society, there is no reason to pursue it further. The rest of your time can be devoted to /jp/ related hobbies and other things that you enjoy.

This way, you don't run into the problem of cutting yourself off from society and losing out on its benefits, nor do you give up your hobbies and things you enjoy.

>> No.3542872

>>3542820
in /b/ language, it's called butthurt.
They see you being free, and they rage because they can't.

>> No.3542884

I believe the true ideal for all of us should be a life where we still maintain our hobbies while exerting the bare minimum level of participation in society necessary to reap the benefits of social living.

That means buckling down and getting some kind of job to pay the bills, talking to people when necessary, and going outside. If you need to, remind yourself that you are doing these things because they are in your best self-interest, not because you actually want to or enjoy doing these things. You need to carry out these actions in order to maximize your own benefit. Helping society is just a by-product.

After you achieve the bare minimum of sociality necessary to survive in modern society, there is no reason to pursue it further. The rest of your time can be devoted to /jp/ related hobbies and other things that you enjoy.

This way, you don't run into the problem of cutting yourself off from society and losing out on its benefits, nor do you give up your hobbies and things you enjoy.

>> No.3542891

>>3542872

>suggesting that self-imprisonment is freedom

The human ability to delude one's self is truly amazing.

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Locking yourself up in your house and never leaving is to be free.

>> No.3542899 [DELETED] 

>>3542319
stop spammin ur crappy boerd on Дnoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's ur ip's lulz ur not relly anonimus enjoy ur party v& u monkey's

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>> No.3542910

>>3542891
>Locking yourself up in your house and never leaving is to be free.
Isn't it, though?

Freedom is a state of mind. It is... enlightenment.

>> No.3542919

>>3542910

freedom - 6 dictionary results
free⋅dom  [free-duhm]
–noun
the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint

>inferring that one can be free while confined to one's house

Mr. Webster disagrees with you, but who is he to you? You're a NEET, you're infinitely superior to all other beings.

>> No.3542930

>>3542919
>at liberty
We're at liberty to choose to do as we wish. We are free.

>> No.3542934

>>3542930


You are also in confinement, which negates your previous statement of freedom.

You can, however, exit your prison at any time.

>> No.3542938

>>3542872
No, that'd be jealousy. They're not really jealous, they feel BETTER than us.

>> No.3542947

>>3542919
It says 'physical restraint' but doesnt specify 'physical confinement' it could be referring only to mental confinement - in which case you could be free even if you were locked in a box.

Also, sup arc.

>> No.3542948

>>3542919
>Mr. Webster disagrees with you, but who is he to you?
He is one who is not free.

And, from him, I am free.

Is it not wonderful?

>> No.3542950

>>3542934
Total freedom means that you should be able to choose not to be free. Especially if you can at any point cancel this imposition and enjoy physical freedom you so praise.

>> No.3542953

>>3542950
You're not being arrogant enough. Try it again!

>> No.3542955

Lots of people from here seem to have decided to join the military so I wouldn't say that they would be incapable of raping a woman.

>> No.3542956

>>3542950
>>3542947


Then it is fairly obvious you are no more or less free than anyone else. It's a moot point, so why exhort 'freedom' as the reason why you would become a manchild?

>> No.3542962

>>3542948
DEEP

>> No.3542964

I am three years short of sixty and I never grew up. I seem no worse for the wear and I really have never cared a bit what other people thought of me. Status and Ego fags treat me weird but I don't have time for them so its all good. They have no influnce over me or how I live. I don't try and live in their fucked up unhappy world. Life is short then its over, enjoy it.

>> No.3542966

>>3542956
>why exhort freedom as blah blah blah

wat. I didn't even read this shit thraed, I just saw you saying teh definition of freedom and assuming 'constraint' meant physical. Also say hi to me, ass. ;_;

>> No.3542969

>>3542956
I did not become a manchild to be free, but because I already am.

>> No.3542972

>>3542964
>I am three years short of sixty
what

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>>3542966

But you always ignore me when I say hi to you. I didn't want to risk it.

Anyway, hi.

>> No.3542980

I have the freedom to choose when and how to be free.

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>> No.3542986

>>3542964
Grandpa, is that you?

>> No.3542987

>>3542956
I did not actively decide to be one. I just developed into one by choosing to do only what pleases me, and avoiding things that frighten me, like going outside. So you think living in fear (because you are obligated to do things that frighten you) means someone is more free than I am?

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>>3542975
I do? Sorry ;_; I must never notice, I post sporadically because I'm not always here even when I seem to be actively posting, I don't ignore it on purpose.

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>>3542990
wrong image

>> No.3543014

>>3542987

>and avoiding things that frighten me

So you're a pussy bitch. Very well. I am finished with that line of questioning.

>>3542990

It's fine, really. I am somewhat overused to being ignored.

>> No.3543025

>>3543014
>So you're a pussy bitch

Like I said, the reason you people feel better than us is petty distaste.

>> No.3543031

>>3543014
To add on to that, how does it feel to not be free from primal instincts, like hating people who you consider "weak"? Speaking from a state of mind, I am more free than you will ever be.

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>> No.3543043

>>3543025
>>3543031

Not being governed by fear feels awesome, man.

You should try it.

>> No.3543044

>>3543031
I hate those I consider weak.

You're deluding yourself if you don't.

Delusion, huh...? A self-constructed mental prison...

>> No.3543047

filtering tripfags/normalfags does a body good

>> No.3543050

>>3543043
Not everyone has the strength of will to not be subject to fear.

Enjoy your life without fears, but don't force me to do the same things you do when I do have to suffer them.

>> No.3543051

>>3543047
Your mother did my body good last night.

>> No.3543053

>>3543050

Ah, but a mere pothead like myself surely has much less strength of will than you, sir NEET.

You should have enough moral fiber and strength of will to go outside, beat random people up, fuck tons of bitches, and just generally be awesome.

>> No.3543055

>>3543050
>Not everyone has the strength of will to not be subject to fear.
Those who do not are undeserving of a place in this world.

>> No.3543058

>>3543047
>filtering normalfags
Filtering scripts do not work that way!

>> No.3543059

>>3543044
There's really no logical reason to hate people who are "weak" that I can think of except for a feeling of insecurity in oneself and the desire that springs from that to assert your "power" by making yourself look better than others.

The real one who is pathetic is you, but you don't even realize it.

>> No.3543061

>>3543053
I really can't see the majority of /jp/ sharing your lifestyle, regardless of moral fibre.

I'm fine with my life as it is, regardless.

>> No.3543070

>>3543055
By your rule? Be warned, I may be afraid of things you engage in daily, I am not afraid of killing a human being to stay alive. Keep that in mind.

>> No.3543071

>>3543059

> There's really no logical reason to hate people who are "weak"

Weak people are a liability to your own personal safety, security, and health.

Weak people can compromise your plans, disrupt your strategies, and cause catastrophic failure if you're counting on them and they fail.

You were saying?

>> No.3543077

America must a pretty shit if you're scared to go out of the house.

>> No.3543078

>>3543071
You are only trying to find reasons, when in reality it all stems from a personal displeasure. You're like the moralfags who try to find all sorts of "logical" reasons to ban loli, when the only reason they really dislike it is because they think it's distasteful.

Stop trying to argue with me, you've already proven to be on an entirely different level intellectually. Go back to beating up nerds in class.

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>>3543070

>By your rule? Be warned, I may be afraid of things you engage in daily, I am not afraid of killing a human being to stay alive. Keep that in mind.

Angels and ministers of grace defend us from the manchild's wrath.

>> No.3543082

>>3543078
>it all stems from a personal displeasure.
Well, duh. We'd just be trapped rats if we didn't allow our own style to rule us.

Mental freedom. You claim to have it, but you cannot even follow your own will? Pathetic.

>> No.3543086

>Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6
Why do you even TRY to have a conversation with this person?

>> No.3543087

>>3543053
>go outside, beat random people up, fuck tons of bitches, and just generally be awesome.
All of these on the same line... Wow, I was right, you are completely governed by primal desires.

Is it because of your drug addiction, or were you always this underdeveloped intellectually?

>> No.3543088

>>3543078

Weak people are always a liability to others and a danger to themselves as well as others, which is why they are shunned. It's really supremely obvious, Anon.

>> No.3543091

>>3543087
>Wow, I was right, you are completely governed by primal desires.
As am I. I see not a problem.

>> No.3543094

>>3543087

>Wow, I was right, you are completely governed by primal desires.


So are you. You're breathing air right now, fulfilling your primal desire to breathe and live.

Feel free to prove me wrong and stop breathing.

>> No.3543100

>>3543082
People who are very intelligent usually have more fears. The reason is they actually UNDERSTAND the dangers. That's why retards will join the army, when smart people know how dangerous it is and thus aren't stupid enough to join up for such a task.

You do not lack fear because you have more willpower than us, you are simply too dumb to see the dangers.

>> No.3543104

>>3543086
You're right, I'm done with it now, especially since he started samefagging as Anonymous.

>> No.3543112

>>3543091
>I see not a problem.
Why am I not surprised?

>> No.3543115

>>3543104
It seems the world can't decide if I'm Arc's enemy or puppet. Ah, well.

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>>3543115

Never mind his petulant, childish temper-tantrums. We can have a flame war later, enemy of mine.

>> No.3543128

>>3543122
I always wonder if you recognize me despite my anonymity...

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>>3543128

I am far more cogent than most give me credit for.

The irony of being allied with a former enemy is not lost on me, by the way.

>> No.3543137 [DELETED] 

The fact Arc dropped to Anonymous after someone posted he was filtering his normalfagotry show he is an attention whore and you can trust a word he says.

>> No.3543141

>>3543137

>you can trust a word [Arcueid] says.


There, see? I'm perfectly trustworthy.

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>>3543134

>I am far more cogent than most give me credit for.

I actually believe you are.

I believe you're trying to play the part of "what trolls want you to believe", via posting deliberate logical fallacies and then playing the devil's idiot by defending them in a masquerade to rile up anonymous fools on the internet.

Personally I don't care for it.

>> No.3543151

>>3543141
Are you, now? But that takes all the fun out of it!

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>>3543151

So sad.

But for now, you can put aside any doubts you may have had about my trustworthiness.

>> No.3543215

It's amazing to see how people tends to classify things.
NEET = Fat, ugly, blablabla & we're supposed to be trash not contribuing to society?

Internet, Electricity, Food, Water... Where the fuck do you think we're getting those?
So yes, it's not because some of us don't want to end up with a 3D woman or procreate that we've failed at life.

Furthermore for telling us that real life is more beautiful than fantasy, that's just trolling.
I'm not a true NEET, i'm 27, working everyday, talking with people and sometimes even laugh with them (fuck) ;
..but you know what? If it would be possible for me to end my life in my house, browsing /jp/, playing VN, watching what NEETs thinks about the last 2D idol, or even watching anime (/a/ gene), i would say : ittadakimasu.

"Get a life, have a girl, have a job and you'll be happy" is just a big-failure-sentence.
You're not a NEET? So you know what i'm talking about, or otherwise you're just lying to yourself.

>> No.3543223

>>3543215

> i would say : ittadakimasu.

hahahahahahaha

Are you for real?

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>>3543215
> i would say : ittadakimasu.

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> i would say : ittadakimasu.

>> No.3543248

>>3543243
Please refrain from quoting parts of posts blocked by my filter. Thank you.

>> No.3543249

>>3543215
>NEET = Fat, ugly, blablabla & we're supposed to be trash not contribuing to society?
"not contribuing[sic] to society" is the fucking definition of a NEET! You don't know what a NEET is. I hate people like you.

>> No.3543260

>>3543249
/jp/'s 'NEET legion' trolling is to blame in most cases, I'd wager. You brought this on yourselves.

>> No.3543277

>>3543260
The "NEET IS LEEGUN" faggot is just one person and we're all sick of him. Don't blame us.

>> No.3543289

>>3543277

It is more like four or five people, actually. Or someone who's really, really good at posting at the same time and evading the flood timer.

>> No.3543302

>>3543289
So what you're saying is that NEET really is legion?

But I don't want to be legion...

>> No.3543305

>>3543302
tough shit

>> No.3543306

>>3543302
Please don't reply to invisible teenage posters!

>> No.3543310

>>3543306
Why would you think Arc is invisible?

Is he blending right in with the night?

>> No.3543317

>>3543223
Why not?
-A) Enjoying your life by having sex with random girls, talking with -friends- (nice joke) or working everyday is a choice.
-B) Staying in your house is another.

Our century is messed up.
People are egoist, materialist, killing themselves for nothing, having sex life animals (hi AIDS), spitting on each people different from them, blablabla ect ect ect

At least when i'm playing a VN (not a gang-band one though), even if it's a fantasy, when i'm going down the stairs in a building, characters are kind enough to say : "Hi"

>> No.3543322

>>3543317
Can't take the pressure, faggot?

>> No.3543335

>>3543322
Can take it easy. Look i'm not angry at your useless troll.

>> No.3543353

>Our century is messed up.
>People are egoist, materialist, killing themselves for nothing, having sex life animals

It's been like that since forever bro. It's those qualities that allowed mankind to thrive

>> No.3543366

>>3543353
>It's been like that since forever bro
Dunno. I won't say that before was better, but i'm really wondering how will be our lives in 10years.

>> No.3543369

>>3543366
Better.

But you're too stupid to know that.

Enjoy having your genes fade from the pool.

>> No.3543422

This thread deserves to die.

>> No.3543451

>>3543353
>It's those qualities that allowed mankind to thrive
You don't know that for shit, since you don't know what things would've been like the other way.

>>3543369
>Enjoy having your genes fade from the pool.
Keep saying that, maybe if you repeat it enough times it will eventually matter.

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