/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>34858404
whats a good program to translate Visual novels?

I'm trying to use "Visual Novel Translator" but to translate kyonyuu fantasy 4 trial but it barely picks up one word, let alone a sentence

I wish all the girls where drawn by K-子 instead of getting these two cows.

>>34858524
>>34774790

Whoever the fuck recommended me sakuretto you nigs can do die in hell.

>>34859215
It was me

>>34859215
What's wrong with it? I think I know the answer because I accidentally spoiled myself and dropped it

>>34861239
Unnecessary routes. Too many H scenes but zero romantic development. Shitty mini mysteries. Garbage characters. Everything's just terribly written. It's the kind of VN where the writer puts all the eggs on major plot twist towards the end and you're like "ok, nice foreshadowing but so what? That's it".

>>34858404
Playing Himanatsu
I like the wholesome and idyllic setting but there really is no plot

>>34861699
You gotta get till Yomi's route. That one was okay. Didn't touch 2 routes myself, and Hinazakura's was shit, as expected. Or good, if you actually like Asta's drama. It's exactly what you'd expect from him, incredibly artificial.

>>34861736
Haven't played Yomi's yet.
Going through Ruka's right now and I don't think I understand what the hell's going on. Seems convoluted with her ghost and going into books and shit.

That's creepy as fuck. Even my horny younger self wouldn't masturbate to my own friend.

>>34862046
Even did that.

>>34862046
I think thats common as fuck...
Every male want to fuck cute female even if she is your friend.

>>34862112
Nah, unless she's a known slut, you wouldn't be able to treat your own friend as mastubatory material, it just feels wrong, and the fear of being discovered and hated by her for doing that would quickly kill your boner.

Recommend some good murder mysteries.

Which VNs are the easiest to read? I'm probably at the level of an elementary school student, and that's being generous.. only been studying a few years. All ages is fine.

>>34862355
You have somewhat of a conscience. Most people do not.

>>34863119
Lolige
>>34862046 is a good one, MC and heroines are middle schoolers obsessed with sex so you have anything complicated showing up.

>>34863212
*you won't have

>>34863119
Please use a bit of common sense. Look at the target age for Japanese players, and the language knowledge of that target.
Adults -> Finished high school, probably at university (if they were working, they wouldn't have time for eroge).
All-ages (console releases) -> middle-high school.

>>34863119
Pretty much any moege but you should be prepared to look up words all the time, there's no getting around the fact picking up vocabulary takes effort

>>34861699
It would be nice if makura made a comfy VN like h
imanatsu to fill the gasp while sakutoki doesn't come out.
>>34861836
Ruka's h-scenes are my favorite ever. Doubt it'll be the case for you though.
>>34861736
That scene when Hina was waiting at the bus stop while Kyousuke came back feeling like absolute shit after discovering the "truth" about Hina's mother was really nice.

>>34863634
Language difficultly doesn't align like that, retard. It's just random as fuck. There are hundreds of eroge that even a kid can read.

>>34863119
Oretsuba

What's up with extremely sexual tokutens for non-H games?

>>34865157
Holy shit are you imbecile. There is children literature aimed at kids, that you can use to learn Japanese when you start. You are like those dumb people who recommend Yotsuba to people who start learning Japanese. Don't, it's not for beginners. It's aimed to a more adult public. Visual novels aren't aimed to beginners at a level of 'elementary school student, and that's generous'.

>>34865501
Can you read? Do you even know where you are? It's the VN thread, you dumb fuck. We aren't talking about general media recommendation. And no, I'll repeat it, language difficulty doesn't align as conveniently as in your imaginary world.

>>34865501
There are no such strict demarcations, man. I don't know if you even read VNs.

>>34863119
>I'm probably at the level of an elementary school student, and that's being generous.. only been studying a few years.
Should have started reading years ago anon. Either way, you want to start of with SoL stuff, so moeges really.

>>34865501
Children literature isn't just adapted to a child's language abilities but their psychological/social maturity and their knowledge of the world too. This is why it's not great to recc children's literature as practice material for beginners. You can find a lot of VNs with simple grammar and vocab.

>>34866120
Not everyone is an oldfag weeb

>>34865387
They still appeal to virgins even if they aren't eroge, that's all VNs.

>>34863119
Saihate no Ima
Ruitomo
Itsusora
Kikaijikake no Eve -Dea Ex Machina-

Get at least half-way N2 (to give an idea), with emphasis on the grammar. That will make you keen enough to detect new grammar cases that you can then look up. Then you can start reading eroge without your comprehension being too hindered.
'Easy' means no purple prose, no obscure vocabulary, and simple constructions.
There isn't really any 'elementary level' eroge no matter how these anons tell you, because you'd be missing to much vocabulary and kanji, but you can fix that with a dictionary or text hooking.

Just don't listen to what anglocucks say about learning Japanese. They can't even properly grasp Japanese grammar(which is the easiest part of Japanese) and they follow jlpt levels for some reason.

>>34868053
They learn Japanese grammar by memorizing grammar rules from textbooks lmao

>>34858404
>>34858533
What's your opinion on Hajirabu? I'm not too keen on the heroines being JKs
again, but I'll play it regardless. I'm mostly interested in the loli onee-san chara.

I just wish Smee would've had some variety, like how it was in M*L where 2 of the 5 heroines were JK, two roughly same age as MC, and one cake. Hajirabu has one 3rd year, two 2nd years, and a 1st year. That kind of age difference is a joke.

>I wish all the girls where drawn by K-子 instead of getting these two cows.

Did Keeko draw the other two then, Pink and Brown?

>>34862046
even though Riko isnt a virgin, I still preferred her over Anna

>>34869479
Love it, but I've ignored all recent SMEE games since I don't care about hags, so I guess my opinion won't be too relevant for you.
>Did Keeko draw the other two then, Pink and Brown?
Yes, and Kouta's younger siblings, the only side-chars with sprites.

>>34869504
I like Anna because it's a pretty unique thing to have an actual middle schooler onee-chan, she has her youngness while still feeling like an older sister.

>>34869517
>Yes, and Kouta's younger siblings, the only side-chars with sprites.
Sweet. Kouta is the only heroine I am really interested in, as she is almost an expy of Ushio from Mashimaro.

Got any pics of those sprites ?

>>34869548

>>34869580
Thanks. Two siblings huh? Nice, looking forward to Kouta's route

>>34869626
Plus two more imoutos and a pregnant mom, Smee are dreaming big.

>>34869504
Same. I put any heroine that abuses MC on my shit list, especially tsundere.

>>34869741
You deserve it.

>>34869741
MC is a little shit, he deserves any "abuse" he gets

BaseSon girls are just on another level from the rest. I'm so tired of generic bishoujo types.

https://files.catbox.moe/j65v52.jpg
First time I've found a nursing handjob scene fappable.
But that really was a short common route, trial shows you confession scenes and then random everyday scenes from the routes, I wish I hadn't spoiled myself now.

On the topic of Smee, I've been going back and reading some of their FDs that I've skipped, starting with Dousei Loverable.
Not much to say since it's been years since I read Loverable and I don't remember everything, but the after-stories for Chinatsu and Kaho have been enjoyable so far. I liked that they addressed the loose end of Kaho and MC's parents in her route, was a satisfying continuation and conclusion of her route in the main game. I forgot how much I liked Hayase Yuu's formula for moege, even if it's really simple and cheesy at times.
Will probably be done with this after doing Satsuki's route, moving on to Fureraba's FD next.

I wish Smee would drop the nameable protag shit if they can be bothered to put in the effort to make it good.
An osananajimi never calling you by name feels wrong.

Can never read 校門 without grinning, does it ever go away lads?

>>34870288
Oh wow, someone else read Apare? I thought it was just me. Its not a great game though.

https://twitter.com/define72219399/status/1393451161118597126

Thought they were dead. Apparently not.

>>34870288
Yeah, I still have no idea how they made the girls in Sengoku Koihime even more shit than even relatively bad moege characters, and wrote even worse moege scenarios with them. Not like the plot chapters were good, they were moege tier as well.

The only thing the game had going for it, was that there are many girls. You'd think that means you like at least one. But even that was really fucking hard.

>>34875849
unique setting and different characters what makes it for me. And the selectable episode format works for me as I tend to play vns in short bursts.

>>34878883
Its a unique setting in the sense that its not a historical fiction series like the Koihime games but its just Edo japan with smatterings of technology. The selectable episode stuff also fell apart for me when I got to the end of the game and it turns out you have to go through the ending like 18 times with minor differences followed by a very short epilogue for everyone but the main heroines. I would have preferred a more encompassing narrative with a single harem end, maybe with branching off unique side heroine ends, especially when the fandisc just goes 'lmao everyones dating you at the same time somehow' anyway.

>>34878963
yeah, i would prefer harem ending too but hey I get what I can get. Just love these characters and goofy stories.

>>34870687
How about this https://exhentai.org/s/ac45810d1a/1177422-380

>>34863119
Protip, an elementary school student already has a better grasp on the language than all but the most dedicated lifelong foreign speakers. They may not have the most extensive vocabulary or the most refined way of speaking, but their ability to intuitively understand the language is greater than yours will ever be. Just to put it in perspective how far you have to go to achieve true proficiency.
When you’re just starting out it doesn’t make much sense to think about readings in terms of “easy” and “hard” because everything will be hard for you. May as well just go with stuff that has furigana and/or the easiest kanji to make it easier to look stuff up in the dictionary.

>>34878986
Baseson has always been good at character stuff, yeah.

Will there be a TL patch for Subahibi 10th anni edition?

>>34880184
Yeah, i'm making one. I'm not very good with both english and japanese but im trying very hard

>>34880184
Wrong thread, idiota.

>>34880200
>>34880192
Ah fuck, wrong thread.

>>34880184
>>34880211
>when you want to be a sicario but are just a spicario

im too stupid to figure out how to get/activate the maid dlc for Ore o Hoshigaru Futari no Haha ( 俺を欲しがる二人の母 ) animated version
pls

>>34881286
Ask your spic pals on Anime-Sharing.

>>34879495
This doesn't seem true. At least for the first assertion, the claim is blatantly false, if grasp of a language is to be measured by ability to communicate with it. Language intuition is also nonsense, there is no innate structure gained from learning a language as a native. A learner of 3 years diligently could easily have a far better understanding than a child, Japanese really isn't that hard.

>>34881809
>there is no innate structure gained from learning a language as a native
Yeah, it does. Your first language that you learn when you're a child is deeply integrated in your brain, and it hinders people from fully exhibiting their second or third language(that people learn after 12) skills. Unless your mother tongue is extremely similar to Japanese you'll encounter trouble expressing things in Japanese. This is all settled science.

>>34881909
Make up your mind. Is it comprehension or expression that you care about. Considering people here are mainly concerned about comprehension, and that's what was the trigger to the topic, that's what I've gone with. There is no proven science about children's brains being different that grants them an advantage over second language learners. In terms of comprehension, a child is simply not going to be better than an adult. The only advantage granted to natives is that they get exposure to the language naturally and without preconceived notions or bias, a non-native learner can achieve similar results if they follow similar techniques.

http://mellow-soft.com/asaai/
Thoughts? I like Sazanami Suzu, so I would like to try it since she's the main heroine, but I didn't read Petrichor so I don't know what to expect from the writers.

>>34882401
You'll never achieve native tier fluency. Cope more.

>>34882401
I don't know what the hell you're going on about. It's proven beyond doubt that first language acquisition is pretty different from second language acquisition at neurological level, and this affects your cognition of both languages. It'll take years and years of active learning to get fluent in your second language and you'll still be btfo'd by natives.

>>34882510
>>34882628
I originally asked the question, I never said I could communicate or acquire stuff as well as a native speaker, I said I could read about as well as a kid. All I care about is reading, not communicating with people.

>>34882628
Go read a study. I am right, you are moving goalposts. This was always about native child's comprehension vs non native adult. All the people here who think you can't be fluent just don't actually know any bilingual people. It's really not that hard and not that impressive. Google: Differences Between Children And Adults In Foreign-Language Pronunciation And Grammatical Rules Learning, for instance.

>>34882919
This is to go against your narrative that kids are better at acquiring languages intrinsically than adults.

>>34880184
Why? it's just the same game with a different UI.
speaking of subahibi, I've been listening to 呪われた生/祝福された生 on loop recently, is there a genre for that kinda stuff?

>>34861736
Yomi route had a nice balance of story, SoL, flirting and H.

Just finished Silverio Vendetta, it was great. True ending was on the bittersweet side bitter for the side cast but not for me, staying with the goddess Vendetta is the best ending.

How are Trinity and Ragnarok? The heroines are not as instantly eye-catching as Vendetta but if the package in general is solid I wouldn't mind reading them too.

>>34889984
I liked Trinity a lot as a sequel, even a little better than Vendetta as it built upon a lot of the ideas introduced and discussed in Vendetta. Definitely play Trinity too if you enjoyed the first game.

Ragnarok isn't as strongly related to the first two and was somewhat of a letdown compared to them, but at the very least the production values and chuuni elements didn't disappoint. It was a decent end to the 新西暦 universe but not really a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy as a whole. Still worth checking out, but don't expect anything better than the first two. If do end up reading it, the extra story added in the vita version of Trinity serves as a nice lead-in to Ragnarok.

Give me a VN that is extremely hard to comprehend

>>34891097
subahibi

>>34891097
Saihate no Ima

>>34891097
Odeon

Is there any reason to play the version of Demonbane with h-scenes? Are they good? Voiced?

crabs in a bucket in this thread
bitter retards projecting

>>34892293
they're voiced, but I didn't care for most of them. I never played the all ages version but I imagine they had to censor a lot of stuff around Nero and her part of the story.

>>34892293
>Is there any reason to play the version of Demonbane with h-scenes?
MCs megacock

>>34892441
Interesting, I just read the part with the spider-woman and the cut h-content was pretty obvious, Al even says that she wants MC's 精気.

>>34890814
No Vita version because really liked the ero in Vendetta, few HCG but the scenes had decent length and were descriptive enough to be enjoyable. Anyway just got Trinity and Ragnarok, looking forward to more light chuunige goodness.

Trinity was really hard to find compared to the other two, had to dig an old mikocon torrent not available in sukebei and even that was flatlined until a seed suddenly appeared and completed download in 15 minutes.

>>34892676
>>34890814
>>34889984
Is there a chance i'm gonna like these if i don't like masada crap that much?

>>34892711
No.

>>34892711
They are not written by Masada so maybe.

>>34891097
くるくるファナティック
It feels like it was written by a schizo with the weird situations and mood whiplash.

>>34892293
Fucking Al on the island is pretty hot. Ruri's H-scene is also decent imo. I'm not sure how they censored some of the dialogue/plot stuff tho.

Any recommended netori vn? i'm read biniku no kaori before, it was good

>>34892293
I would say the all ages version is better overall. It has full voice acting, adds new songs and animated scenes, and over 300 new CGs

Does the original 18+ DVD version of Demonbane need a crack or patch to run on Windows 10? I have it installed, but it just won't run at all

>>34896940
>over 300 new CGs
wtf

Can anyone upload 夏夢夜話? The mega link in the archives is outdated.

>>34862355
That's not how the real world works

>>34863119
Back when I started I read Hanahira, didn't really like it but at least it was very easy

Talking about that I'd like to read a new one now that I'm probably intermediate if not higher, but it's hard to actually find a good one that won't bore me to death within 2 hours

>>34897335
https://archive.org/download/ps2japanredump3/Natsu%20Yume%20Ya%20Wa%20-%20The%20Tale%20of%20a%20Midsummer%20Night%27s%20Dream%20%28Japan%29.7z

>>34889984
Glad to hear that you liked it anon.
>How are Trinity and Ragnarok?
Trinity is really good and is the rare example of a sequel that actually builds upon and explores the themes the first game. It's a lot more polished in the sense that all the routes are pretty good rather than the true route being completely heads and shoulders above, well it still is but you get what I mean. It also has Rain, who is probably my favourite heroine throughout the entire series, she's great. Silverio also has some great antagonists which rival even Chris from Vendetta.
Ragnarok is a bit of an odd case, I don't think it's nearly as good as the first 2 games but it certainly had it's moments and all in all was an alright conclusion for the series.

>>34897143
probably gonna have to download the the best version

https://youtu.be/6F5QorlX2V4
Is this a woman or a man with a voice changer? I don't like the idea of a Smee writer being a tranny vtuber.

>>34898801
i don't really care, but seeing this made me laugh. English Only Patricians win again

>>34898801
It's obviously voice changer. I mean who cares. It's every otaku's wet dream to become a bishoujo girl.

>>34898801
There's a reason most people are into weebshit are trannies

>>34896114
https://vndb.org/v14087

If you like yankee milfs and cucking them from cheating deadbeat husbands.

Okay, Silverio Trinity installed and ready. What is the recommended route order for this one? Surprised to see there is a separate True route unlike Vendetta (though Ragnarok returned to that format after a quick glance at the guide)

>>34899354
I'd strongly recommend Aya > Mistel > Rain > True Route

>>34896940
Yeah, that's what I figured, especially with the higher resolution and adjustable window size that saves me the effort of hacking the game. Just asking because I can also play the old version later if it's good.

>>34897143
>>34899919
That's funny because I have the opposite problem. The 18+ version runs fine but the ported version has a black screen. I blame some directx fucker with wine/a VM although I don't think I've ever had any problems with a directx11 before.

>>34899951
I haven't even tried the 18+ version, that's another anon who happens to be asking about it at the same time.

>>34897143
Lurk moar, there's an alpharom dumped exe in the pack that's been discussed numerous times. That probably will solve your problem.

>>34900025
to be fair thats for the sequel, the first one should use safedisc so it isnt there, though 2dfan does seems to have a crack for it

>>34897143
>>34900438
Yeah, I'm stupid and didn't think about that. Never mind.
EGS has some mixed reports for Windows 10/8 64 bit and positive reports for Windows 7 64 bit so I'm sure it's possible to get it running without too much trouble.

>>34900438
I tried the 2dfan crack, but that doesn't work either. I'll try downloading the The Best edition and see if that works

The Best version of Demonbane worked. If anyone else has trouble with it on Windows 10 that's probably the way to go

Is there any reason to read the original Chaos;Head over Noah?

Is pick related worth it?

>>34902364
I mean presumably if you liked Extra and have read all of the other Muv-Luv stuff before that, I don't see why you wouldn't like it. That one is next on my backlog though so I can't give you a definite answer.

>>34863119
Nanatsuiro Drops and AIR are the easiest things I've read in Japanese by far

>>34902242
no

>>34899464
Pic related not having route is a crime, would have preferred her over Mistel.

>>34905730
Mistel's main issue is her fucking horse face, her sprite is outright ugly, I enjoyed her route because it had some cool stuff, but it was the worst out of the four.

>>34905730
I've skipped a lot of games because the most attractive or interesting characters don't have routes.

>>34906575
Life is too short to play stuff, where your favorite character designs are among the minor characters. Same for voice actors.

I've come to the conclusion that the really good works are usually a combination of everything being good, or rather to your liking. Mind you, that doesn't mean hot girls or whatever. Pic related also works. Regardless of how the art and sound design of a game is, it affects it heavily. And in this case it supports the overall mood and was chosen with intent.
I've seen games get absolutely carried the fuck by voice actors outperforming themselves. They can't save something that can't be saved, but sure as fuck help cover some flaws here and there. Music and art can as well.

There's stuff like Umineko, where the artstyle in itself is a big part of the game's atmosphere and how you look at characters, that completely changes with better art. It's actually interesting how this works. Art alone has huge impact on the general atmosphere and style of a VN, and how you think about characters.

tl;dr: Read the first line.

>>34913112
Forgot pic related, because the dumb capture didn't want to get clicked for whatever reason and had to reload.

What's the most fucked up VN you ever read

>>34913706
any game by pin-point

>>34913706
夢幻廻廊

The nazis were some smart fellows.

>>34914497
Okay that's just rude.

>>34916347
Ren's a rude guy read:tsundere

>>34916477
They should just insert a line like that to replace all the H-scenes in the all ages version.

>>34916347
They should just insert a line like that to replace all the H-scenes in the all ages version.

Interested in Dies Irae and trying to figure out all the releases. Did Amantes Amentes EVER have H-scenes in any release? If I just read Acta Est Fabula will I be missing anything worthwhile from AA?

>>34917238
I'm currently just playing both. First, I do a route in Acta Esta Fabula. Then I do the route again in Amantes Amentes while ctrl'ing through everything that I already read before. After that, I check if any extra/side stories are unlocked in AA and read those. Then I switch back to Acta Esta Fabula for the next route. If I recall correctly, Rea has another ending in AA so you pretty much can't ignore that one.

>>34913129
Ritterorden?

>>34917385
Gonna add to this for your sake as well buddy, Rea doesn't just get a second ending, she also gets a lot of additional stuff for her first ending as well, great stuff. I'd recommend switching to AA after Rea's h-scene if you still want to work through AEF first.
It's honestly a huge inconvenience how the fucks at light never managed to just make a definitive version of DI, h-scenes and all extra content.
>>34917238
You will miss out on tons of worthwhile stuff by never reading AA. Particularly a side story, 2 prequel-esque other stories, 2 epilogues, a(in my opinion) superior ending and a completely additional ending.
Pretty much the other anon's way is probably the best way to go through with DI. Play through AEF and switching to AA for the extra content once you're done with a route, only swapping part way through for Rea's route. hope this retarded shit didn't deter you

>>34917727
>Rea doesn't just get a second ending, she also gets a lot of additional stuff for her first ending as well, great stuff. I'd recommend switching to AA after Rea's h-scene if you still want to work through AEF first.
Thanks anon, I didn't know that. I'll probably do that then.
>It's honestly a huge inconvenience how the fucks at light never managed to just make a definitive version of DI, h-scenes and all extra content.
Yeah you'd think they would have tried to cash in on it again and release another version around the same time the anime came out or something.

Does a cracked release of Steins;Gate Elite with japanese text exist? Any tips?

>>34917727
Reading three colors ending was the happiest in my life.

>>34917727
light is just gay like that, KKK never got a definitive version with h-scenes and the Akebono no Hikari extra content. Same with Silverio Vendetta and Trinity.

You mismanaged a company and their products, and it goes under. Like light did.

After beating the first game yesterday I immediately picked up the sequel. I like the character designs and premise, but the UI and gameplay feels so much more tedious. All three combat speeds feel pretty much the same and CTRL'ing through is barely noticeable from default speed. At least Kano is cute.

>>34917829
>three colors ending

It's 三つ巴. I suppose some EOPs saw 巴 as 色 and the mistake stuck.

>>34918065
At least with KKK's all ages release, plot/character details aren't omitted and the only thing missing are the h-scenes. Though the Silverio stuff did get slightly messed over like changing that zephyr and mana were blood related siblings or Rain's artemis/selene outfit, whilst I do think it strangely hotter but still

Playing Kimikiss. The choices can be tricky, but the game is consistently cute and relaxing and never confusing, drawn-out or harsh, which makes it probably the best “dating sim” I’ve ever played. All the heroines have appealing qualities, though they can neatly be classified as the usual archetypes such as ojousama, childhood friend, tomboy, etc, minus any tsunderes (so far). Notably, your little sister and a girl with a 190 IQ are included as heroines. Also, the girls get upset if you pursue another girl at the same time as them, even though it’s easy to do so. I’ve only gotten the bad/alone ending, but my only complaint as of now would be that obtaining the friendship endings seems to require just as much effort as the love endings.

>>34920435
Wasn't Rain outfit censored because around that time Sony started pushing their new censorship policies? Vendetta's is far lewder and still made it intact into Verse of Orpheus so that's good.

This is an ultra faggot question, but where do you people get raw VNs?

>>34920944
nyaa or anime sharing

>>34920944
nyaa, anime-sharing, random forums, sometimes consult that one guy's google doc

>>34920991
>>34921058
Alright, I'll see what I can find, thanks.

>>34921146
Always search for original title names, not romanized ones.

>>34921146
you can also ask people for anime bytes uploads if you can't find it in those places

Is pic related the most severe case of daddy issues in all of fiction?

>>34917727
not the other anon, can I just read AA without touching Acta? I just started Rea's route in AA, never touched Acta before

>>34922029
Yeah the only details that were omitted in AA iirc were
Wilhem raped and murdered his sister-mother, and Schreiber detailing that he's a eunuch that was sold off as a prostitute alongside his whore mother during his fight with Shirou in Marie's route

>>34917727
>You will miss out on tons of worthwhile stuff by never reading AA. Particularly a side story, 2 prequel-esque other stories, 2 epilogues, a(in my opinion) superior ending and a completely additional ending.
All of that shit sucked and made the game too long. If I could do it over I would read AEF.

>>34922211
You're out of your goddamn mind if you thought Verfaulen segen, the Marie and Rea epilogues, The first ending from Rea's route having the dance scene + Lotus' sections sucked. I get that the mitsudome might not have been for everyone but still.

>>34922278
By the game I got to Rea's route I was so tired of reading the game that I didn't care anymore.

>>34922322
Sorry to hear that anon. The AA content were some of the highlights of the game for me.

>>34922451
From what I understand a lot of it is adaptations of drama CDs. That's about what it felt like.

>>34922177
Funny that they restored all that stuff for the translation but there's no version like that in Japanese.

>>34922998
Nothing to be surprised about, EoPs > JSLs

>>34922998
>>34923240
I remember some anon posted random screenshots last year and almost all of them had some completely mistranslated lines, so I wouldn't be very confident in whatever they "restored".

>>34923355
Not mistranslation but improvement over mAsAdA PrOsE

>>34923355
I recall one example of a "mistranslation," which was a quote from a Shinto prayer. In the Japanese the quote is fragmentary, so the translators looked up the original source and added more segments to it. But if you didn't know any of that then it would on its face look like it was wrong.

>>34923487
Ofc jsl cuck doesn't know anything about it, just wants to bash translation lol.

>>34923487
Okay, randomly adding additional segments isn't technically a mistranslation but fanfiction which is arguably even worse.

>>34923672
Bet you don't learn language for every book you want to read in original. If you read books, of course. Spoiler: you probably don't.
:')

>>34923723
I actually stopped reading all books that aren't originally in English or Japanese precisely because I stopped trusting translation. One of these days I will get around to learning Russian or something for Tolstoy.

>>34923791
>learning Russian
Nice
>for Tolstoy
eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh....

>>34923487
>I recall one example of a "mistranslation," which was a quote from a Shinto prayer. In the Japanese the quote is fragmentary
There were more than that and examples of mistranslations an anon would randomly find when he double checked
This one is pretty egregious

>>34923672
Claiming that something like that is "fan fiction" is ridiculous. You would have more credibility if you didn't make retarded claims such as that.

>>34923808
I mean the english fanfiction t/l of his work I read was pretty good, so I imagine it'd be godly in Russian (and technically French). I liked Dostoevsky too of course.

When someone starts throwing around the term fan fiction you know they have no serious thoughts on the matter.

>>34923791
Go for it mate, learning a language is genuinely a fun endeavour and is a great hobby.

>>34923723
Which language the original language is also plays a factor. Like you can fairly accurately translate between English and German cause the languages are fairly similar. Japanese and English on the other hand are very different. Different translators are going to translate things differently based on what they think is important in the work.

>>34923875
Did the character actually say the line or was it randomly added in? If the latter, it's equivalent to fanfiction.

>>34923917
Strike a nerve?

>>34923938
It's a loaded, inaccurate term that you are using solely for polemical reasons. Discussion is pointless.

>dies irae sparks another translation discussion
I do love some 既知

>>34923959
Okay my bad, I'm technically assuming the "translator" is a fan but he technically might not be. Is "made up shit" better?

>>34923976
You know it.

>>34924030
>Okay my bad, I'm technically assuming the "translator" is a fan but he technically might not be. Is "made up shit" better?
Confirming my point.

I feel threatened by this.

>>34924083
Why did he name 4chan specifically?
Also don't post discord screenshots anon, it's hardly on topic

>>34924108
Only 4chan incels care about translation quality.

>>34924108
I think for a lot of people here that can't read Japanese, it's the primary thing they never thought they'd get to read. Also the pic is at least about a VN that is untranslated, though not for much longer.

>>34923791
>learning Russian or something for Tolstoy
Not worth it desu. But maybe it's just my perception of Tolstoy after teachers forcing us to read it in school while no one cared about books. Generally i trust book translations more, but sometimes they're pretty retarded too. Like Ulysses is about 1100 pages on my ipad while Ulysses translated into russian is 1800 pages because of all translator notes and footnotes, rofl.

>>34923875
>Claiming that something like that is "fan fiction" is ridiculous.
You just need to be insecure jsl to have that kind of attitude Or n6 hookcuck. Jops reaction to translation is hilarious in general desu, especially when you look at people books, watching tv shows and movies in translation all the time. It's cool to enjoy original more and learn new language, but jsl hysterical overreaction to vn translations is just lol.
Especially when people like this never translated anything in their life and know pretty much nothing about how tl is done. Just like eops crying about oniichan -> broski and karaage -> fried chicken.

>>34923487
Maybe you should try searching the archive then. Your memory seems to be a bit lacking.

>>34924083
>>34924159
Don't tell me it's Muramasa.

>>34924196
haha...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlXv_sCJS1I
Seems like they're putting a lot gimmicks from previous Smee and Hooksoft games on this new one.

>>34924188
>Not worth it desu. But maybe it's just my perception of Tolstoy after teachers forcing us to read it in school while no one cared about books.
Anna Karenina was probably the greatest book I've ever read. I wish school forced us to read actually good literature instead of overrated stuff.

>>34924260
>I wish school forced us to read actually good literature instead of overrated stuff.
Too bad school forcing you to read stuff you don't want to read just makes you hate it. And later on your perception affected by this experience and you don't want to touch russian classic literature at all.

>>34924260
Schools in the future will read Muramasa.
>This here is the work that could easily be grouped together with War & Peace by human civilization in the future, when the initial skepticism about new mediums will be long blown away from visual novels by the passage of time.

>>34924336
That might be true. I hated Wuthering Heights in school for some reason, but when I reread it later it was actually amazing. I did like some things I was forced to read though.

>>34924340
They'll send parents disclaimers about how H-scenes were part of the art in those days. It'll be just like how schools in America send out disclaimers about "The Adventures of Huckleberry" having the word "nigger" in it.

>>34924260
Most of the books they teach you in school are actually good, the problem is that people are too stupid and young to realize it

>>34924490
>That might be true. I hated Wuthering Heights in school for some reason, but when I reread it later it was actually amazing. I did like some things I was forced to read though.
Guess i should try reading Anna Karenina then.

>>34924583
Sounds about right.

>>34924598
I'm about to make the pretentious comparison, but realism and moe/slice of life have a lot in common. I'd imagine there'd be a lot of crossover appeal.

>>34924583
I still feel like they could have done better. Maybe it's just my fault for being a burger because I don't really like American authors that much.

>>34924188
>Generally i trust book translations more, but sometimes they're pretty retarded too.
This reminds me of the english translation of "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle", three chapters were cut in the translation and some chapters had been moved around a bit lol

>>34924673
>I still feel like they could have done better. Maybe it's just my fault for being a burger because I don't really like American authors that much.
As an American I feel an innate revulsion to any literature that is too deeply tied to America a place. To make a comparison with "high school novels", To Kill a Mockingbird is specifically about America and its own particular social issues and I despise it. But something like The Catcher in the Rye is about things that are independent of its location, and its one of my favorite novels.

>>34924853
America as a physical location/setting is fine with me, but in terms of social issues and what not I'm with you 100%. I've had that beaten over my head a million times and it's a tired, old subject. But even then, I generally find British authors to have far superior prose on average. Maybe I'm just a sucker for 18-19th-century style English but it has a refined quality that just doesn't exist anymore. I've read plenty of gothic novels that are objectively mediocre in terms of plots and characters, but the writing was a joy to read just because of how well the language is used.

>>34924853
> As an American I feel an innate revulsion to any literature that is too deeply tied to America a place.
Hey me too. I’ve always wondered why that is and how common it was. I always felt weirdly negative about American history lessons in school too. I guess I’ve just always known on some level that this country is fake and gay.

This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>>34925143
you first

>>34925143
I'd play a VN based on Wuthering Heights. It could be kamige.

>>34925143
I’m playing Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle it’s a very good visual novel and is also untranslated

>>34925143
>What are you playing?
Finally started Evolimit
>What are you looking forward to?
Not much, I guess the Ryuusei World Actor fandisc thing?
What have you finished?
Last finished VN was Wagahime which was a disappointment, I should have listened to the anons here

>>34925143
>>What are you playing?
Amatsutsumi. Kokoro chapter was really nice, everything else so far isn't. Hope Hotaru route won't disappoint. Amatsutsumi thematically reminds me of sakura moyu at times, except writing isn't insufferable bloated pile of crap with tons of repetitive prose. Funny how reading amatsutsumi killed down my motivation to resume sakura moyu in near future.
>What are you looking forward to?
Maybe loopers. Or some nukige from backlog. Need some rest before starting kamige.

>>34925143
Started Akatsuki no Goei, Kaito is a funny guy.

I see that Planescape: Torment finally became thread-related.

Is this good? anyone play it?

>>34865387
Where did you get that one, just got the samples myself

>>34925306
It's the opposite for me. I attempted to read Amatsutsumi several times but I never made it very far. I don't even know why, I just can't get into it

>>34926264
Maybe because of protag and how he casually abusing his power at first?

>>34925143
Will probably pick up loopers. Wonder if will go full Keyshit in the end since it feels a lot different compared to their other works.

For the games i played recently:
Motto haramase succubus edition: Found it better then the previous entries but it is just more of the same.

Muramasa Janen hen: Blade arts was pure fanficiction of the bad kind. Only good parts are the Ero scene and the last part of the final battle. Pretty sure i missed something here by not playing Hanachirasu. Muramasa the movie was really witty and has a great premise. The Kanae story line was great up untill the choice. Both outcomes don't really add anything to Kanae as a character for me.

Misaki after. Funniest part of Nukitashi i've read so far. In particular The Gunshot soundclip gag and the parody of Fumino's line from Nukitashi 1. Also related on a spiritual level with Jun when he went in the eroge settings menu and disabled voices stopping when you click through the text before the voiceline is finished.
bit off topic but i also read through 夢十夜because it got parodied in Nukitashi 2. Dreams 1, 6 and 7 are great.

>>34926789
>Pretty sure i missed something here by not playing Hanachirasu.
You should read it, it's a good VN.

I know I'm pretty late here but I finally finished Wagahime. Don't have much to say that hasn't already been said. It's good enough - not incredible, not bad, just decent. Has a lot of problems but most of the cast is likeable enough to carry it. Probably would've been better with a 4th route instead of trying to turn Crone's into a true route and Noa/Crone's romances were pretty weak.
I'll still read Wagahime S/As for the Last/Mimi/Yorkshire/Moody routes.

>>34927452
Mimi only getting a short blowjob scene as a tutorial omake was fucking criminal. Still upset about it.

>>34927564
I was shocked that her and Last weren't even options for short mini-routes in Crone's route.

>>34927576
Yeah I'm struggling to comprehend what they're going to do for a fandisc/S-scenario. Since every other route/characters were building up to the shitty true route with the fukajun villain. Plenty of girls missed out and the side heroines didn't really receive that much love. The Imperial police, Ymir, and Rhodia as well. I guess they could just do what they did in S and quickly sweep up Vector's bullshit

>>34927683
Just kill/imprison Vector and explain to end that if he keeps being a bitch his girlfriend won't want him anymore and you solve the entire plot, from there you can do whatever romantic shenanigans you want, maybe throw in a new villain or two for some drama if you need it. There's enough there to work with that you could have something pretty fun. Then just have the fandisc have three starting points, one for each route. Or, honestly, you could just say that the events of Crone's route happened and they didn't hook up and use that as the starting point, the romance between Crone/Shaon was so underdeveloped that you could change it and say that she just loves him as a little brother and nothing would change except for no h-scenes.

>>34927790
>that if he keeps being a bitch his girlfriend won't want him anymore and you solve the entire plot
You're thinking of Endgame bro, Vector was the loser descendent of fukajun's country who was carrying on some revenge plot 800 years in the making
But yeah, I guess it's that easy but it also goes to show how dumb the true route is.

>>34927790
Never mind bro, turns out I can't read

>>34925143
Im going to check out ToHeart2 after im done with my current game. I remember watching the anime for it a long time ago when it was airing. Will probably do Manakas route first since I liked her the most.

>>34925143
>What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
Somebody tell an indecisive fag what to play next

>>34928560
Gun Knight Girl

>>34928560
chusingura46+1
and delete hinekuremono

>>34928724
>hinekuremono
Not that anon, but the icon is cute. Is it really that bad?

>>34928740
Yeah, the common route was alright and has one decent route. The rest were fucking garbage.

>>34928560
Cinderella.
Low key best girl in it.

>>34928560
You need more chuunige

>>34928918
what's the bar on the top left about? Is it just for the scene?

>>34929438
The main gimmick of the game is the "walking" conversations, you get three-four segments where you can ask stuff and give answers to learn more about the girl and stuff. Every girl has some, and you can give right/wrong answers.
It's like the cation games ones, except here they serve a purpouse.

Is ‘＆’ - 空の向こうで咲きますように - any good?

>>34928560
cs2

>>34928560
Amakano PE -> Amakano+ ->dl Amakano Second Season ->dl Amakano Second Season+ -> cs2 then wait for + then die from icharabu overdose.

>>34927452
>I know I'm pretty late here but I finally finished Wagahime.
What the heck, I have only finished Noa's route so far.

>>34926789
Misaki's after is pretty funny, but it felt like they had no idea what to do for her after story so they made the entire thing meta jokes about the development of Nukitashi 1 + porn. Not that I'm complaining, still way better than Nanase's after.

What do?

>>34930386
I almost died from icharabu overdose after just the first game how is someone supposed to play 5 in a row

>>34932698
>that game title
lol

>>34932797
Moebutas, lol.
Faggots ruining industry and can't read anything with plot or drama

>>34932797
>how is someone supposed to play 5 in a row
I actually jumped between amakano and second seasons routes and then their respective + versions last year. My goal this year is to go through their budget titles but that wont take nearly as long as amakanos routes.

What the fuck, bros??? VENUS came out with a new title and none of you ever told me?

Though this is just the intro parts and I'm not sure when the rest of the game will come out. Still, I'm surprised that it's voiced from the start, most of the time this guy leaves the introduction parts of his games unvoiced.

This game seems to have some of his best designs yet so I'm looking forward to it.

>>34933696
almost evn level of ugly

>>34933723

>>34933750

>>34934104
glad I decided to pick this up earlier today

>>34934104
Would have liked something a bit different but oh well.

>>34925143
started 俺を欲しがる二人の母 cause someone here mentioned an animated version of it, initially wasn't really into the fact one is the MCs real mum but the plot and dialogue is soo fucking porn plot level that i don't even care anymore.

Needless to say my balls have been empty all week and those onaholes i bought last week have been broken in well, anal one even saw some use.

>>34934165
did they fix the e-mote？ Or is it still buggy and a performance hog( sub 20 fps when more than one sprite on screen with a rx 580 and i7 7700) like on release

>>34928524
Enjoy, its an oldie but a goodie. Wish Chiwa Saitos character wasn't trapped on the console version but hey.

>>34934651
Sounds like a lack of animation and not hw issue.

>>34932698
install a different version or try installing somewhere else? get a preinstall?

>>34932987
Have you been living under a rock?
>>34932698
Use procmon and find the error in the API call. Could be permissions. maybe the code sucks and can't install outside of the C drive.

>>34934963
>>34935013
Thanks.
What ended up working was to copy (extract) the contents of the .iso to a different folder and then run the install from there.

>>34934104
I'll never trust something from Marmalade again after Mashimaro.

>>34935270
>Mashimaro.
what do you mean? this was a kamige.

>>34935303
Amazing VAs, nice art style, great characters, but the H-scenes were terrible. Completely ruined the rest for me.

>>34935348
What so terrible about h scenes?

>>34935383
Kanon's first scene literally starts with her sucking the dick cheese off MCs cock, rolling it into a ball and swallowing it. Not to mention the MC manages to cum over two dozen times in a single (3+h reading time) scene.

>>34935426
>MC manages to cum over two dozen times in a single (3+h reading time) scene.
marathon scenes are great, especially with the heroines dead tired af eyes at the end.

>>34935457
Well, I get bored after the description repeats itself for the third time but maybe that's just me. But that's not a problem restricted to this game, sadly.

>>34935502
>epeats itself for the third time but maybe that's just me
i skim those nearly all the time, im here for the VAs moans, i only use the descriptions as a guide on how fast to stroke.

>>34926237
Island artbook. It's on Ex. Lots of fappable art like that.

Same for various Key artbooks too, btw.

Well fuck, seems like I'll actually have to read Muramasa soon, before subhuman EOPs get their hands on it.

That said, I'm pretty much tuned out of online eroge spaces, even this thread mostly, so maybe I can just keep it in the backburner, knowing I can enjoy it whenever.

Though you know, years ago Dies Irae getting a translation announced was the main impetus for me to finally read it and it became one of my favorite games.

>>34935668
How about you work on your insecurities instead, subhuman schizo JSL? Cope more

>>34935668
Who even gives a flying fuck about translations and whatever some retards on the internet talk about

>>34935679
Look bro, I know the idea of having to play something before ugly faggots like you get their hands on it isn't really logical.

The Japanese version doesn't change after all.

But it's just how I feel.

>>34935695
Cope harder with your reddit spacing, insecure faggot. Eops gonna get their hands on muramasa soon and drop it's vndb rating into ground, like they already did with musicus. And you have no way to stop us. And we're gonna get better experience than you, pathetic faggot. Now go on, cry some more.
> That said, I'm pretty much tuned out of online eroge spaces
Bet it's because you can't fit in with your schizo shit, rofl. So pathetic.

>>34935714
Your crying of "schizo, schizo" reminds me of a specific subhuman EOP I used to see on various 4chan board.

Let me tell you what I told him: you will never be white.

>>34865387
Root Double.

>>34935719
Oh wow! Racism is so edgy bro haha you're so fucking cool lol!
Is this another way for you to cope your insecurity and mental disability? Poor thing. You will never gonna fit in and your japanese never gonna be enough to read muramasa and get experience better than eop muramasa experience.
You have fucking nothing. No japanese knowledge, no life, no respect and no money. Only copium and burning asshole. Bet you're fat as well.

>>34935739
Lotsa projection.

>エビのように背中を反らせながら
That's a nice change from the good old 弓.

>>34935744
Why would you project that hard, bro?

I think tsuriotsu is turning me into a yuri fag

>>34937537
Guess ill never read this, i had to drop charabration since it just felt like yuri since the MC was pretty much just a chick with a dick.

>>34937643
>>34937537
Nothing wrong with yuri, faggots.

>>34937537
>trap (male) protagonist
>yuri

>>34937537
And yet you'll never be a woman.

>>34938549
>And yet you'll never be a woman.
Yes, so?

Looking around seems like there are many eroge seiyuu who debuted at like 2015+ and became regular.
But I haven't found anyone who stands out for me compared to the usual older ones.

>>34937537
Well in time for Fuyukara, Kururu.

>>34938659
Depends on what you mean with stand out.
From memory, Amekawa Shino has a rather distinctive voice. Also, almost anyone in GIrls Book Maker has fantastic voice acting, might worth a look.

>>34935013
>Have you been living under a rock?
Yes. I've never actually seen the full title before. Just the abbreviated one.

>>34862355
you have low t or believe in "deep love" or are gay

>>34938659
Sazanami Suzu, great range and appears everywhere from fucked up guro nukige to pure love moege.
Kanako has a really nice distinctive voice, seems to limit herself to "serious" games, except for some rape scenes in the porn gacha Magicami.
Mihane Yuuki, Nekomura Yuki and Kitaooji Yuki, haven't played much of their stuff but really liked them in Yukiiro Sign, seems like they'll also just focus on non-nukige.
But yeah, for the most part the girls that show up the most are still the same old ones.

>>34934104
how was the first game? i was a bit worried that it seemed a bit lifeless

>>34881809
>Japanese really isn't that hard.
Kanji says hi

>>34939863
Just use parser with romaji furigana, no need to actually remember anything.

>>34940506
Hello Clephas

>>34942090
Hey, he's 20 times faster than you

>>34938659
http://www.hook-net.jp/ikoi/index.html
New Hooksoft cast is mostly girls that debuted 2015+

I could have sworn there was a way to use paypal to buy dlsite points.

>>34942337
Get a point card from a third party website. But first check out if you can use those points at the +18 shop, or only at the all-ages shop.

>>34938212
Because the trap (male) is a secret, a lot of the romance is essentially yuri from the girl's perspective.
It's actually one of the less well done things of the game. If they want to do a yuri romance, and go through all the "how the heck am I going to explain that I like a girl", having a male MC trap anyway kinda makes it all feel pointless and dumb. Felt like, they just didn't want to go all the way or something, so it's this weird half assed stuff.

>>34943940
I've always preferred it the other way around, where the girls are lesbians from the start then fall in love with MC(male) and then he reveals he's a boy and they go "oh nooo" and he defeats them with his cock

>>34943940
Happens in a lot of media, straight yuri scares "some people".

>>34942119

>>34944344
In this case it's more like all problems are magically disappearing. (after some obligatory "I'm mad about you lying")
It's lame.

does someone how to install tsukihime in windows 10? how do i do the patch?

What are some eroge that make good use of leitmotifs? Only sci;adv stuff and Oretsuba come to mind for me.

What are some games with good femcel heroines?

>>34948064
I guess "good" is subjective here, but wouldn't that be literally most of them assuming you like the OST? Basically everything has character themes and stuff. Or am I misunderstanding the term?

>>34948134
Biniku no Kaori, unironically

Speaking of soundtracks, christ the OST in Dies irae is so good. I just unlocked Omnia Vanitas and that song is exactly that kind of aggressive power metal I dig.
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJBBy5X8_r0[/video]

why do chinamen ruin everything https://store.steampowered.com/app/1310990/Bishojo_Mangekyo_Kotowari_to_Meikyu_no_Shojo/

Can someone upload Happy Live, Show Up!

So how's the new R07/Key teenagers time looping -ge?

>>34937804
if you like it thats fine, shit just makes me sick and drop games is all. The porn is fine although more boring than moege missionary.

>>34949959
>shit just makes me sick
ok sick was a bit much, more like i lose all interest in the romance when its girl on girl, no real reason for this Its just meh to me and when a big part of why i watch/read something is the romance be it main focus or subplot it subsequently makes me drop whatever it is.

Also most female MCs that are lesbians in weeb media 90% of the time rub me the wrong way, but i'm fine with yuri couples amongst side characters.

>>34950025
>>34949959
Very sad you never reading subahibi then.
As for trapge, it look's like yuri at times, but feels different since you expecting reveal to be spicy

>>34950028
>Very sad you never reading subahibi then.
My plan for this is to revert to my love live yuri shipping 14 year old self again. One day I woke up not into yuri anymore im sure one day i'll wake up a 30 year old twitter spamming trannylator.

>>34950028
>As for trapge, it look's like yuri at times, but feels different since you expecting reveal to be spicy
I only finished one trapge and that was because for once the MC stayed a male personality wise throughout the whole game, at least when he wasn't undercover, unfortunately the VN itself was very mid.

Finished Wagahime. Thought it was funny that in order to view Mimi's h-scene, you have to view the tutorial explanation 13 times after finishing Kurone's route. Is this common for Minatosoft games? It was a good game to stave off boredom at least.

>>34950967
who was best girl and why was it yorkshire

I was just listening to the WA2 closing soundtrack on spotify and there are a couple of songs i don't remember playing at all. In particular: Ready, コモレビ and 約束の場所. Anyone that played it more recently who knows when they are used?

>>34950967
>Is this common for Minatosoft games?
Majikoi does the exact same thing, one girls h-scene is locked behind repeating the tutorial.

Could anon recommend something with a focus on hips/butts? Something like Oshirikko Venus.

>>34949812
This, I want to suck on Karentia's milkers, dammit.