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MarisaB (UFO), Sakuya solo in IN, ReimuC in MoF.

Any of the solos in IN other than Youmu are pretty far and away the worst. Aya isn't even the worst shot type in SA; that definitely goes to Suika.

ehh, Aya is one of my favorites in SA, and would be #1 if not for Yukari's hax power.

The only one I really really dislike is Alice because of the team's terrible spread and her shitty bomb.

>>3477791
Solo Reimu, Yukari, and Marisa aren't that bad. Solo Youmu is pretty much the best though.

Assuming you're doing a run without any sort of handicap, Sakuya solo followed by Sakuya A.

>>3477824
Now that I think about it, Sakuya's one of the worst characters to play as in PoFV.

>>3477817
>her shitty bomb.
Shitty if you forget that it costs her half as much as everyone else and does a ton of damage if you shotgun it. Alice can bomb her way through pretty much every hard spellcard in the game.

>>3477982

>>3477774
Why is yuyutits included among the EX bosses

The worst shot type is Marisa's short range flamethrower in Mountain of Faith. I have no idea how you're supposed to survive with that.

>>3480254
MarisaC? Eh, I think it's not too bad even though I don't play it often. The ability to lock it in place is pretty useful when setup correctly, and the flamethrowers are relatively strong.

I don't know but I still think Marisa x Alice in SA is my favourite.

The one in imperishable night where the shots slowly turn towards the opposite direction you're moving.

Shit's so useless.

Marisa B in UFO is just one massive "What the fuck is this shit?"

>>3480327
Youmu

>>3480334

That's the one.

So useless, and soft.

>>3477791
Due to my playstyle though, Suika is the only one I managed to beat the harder modes. Though I'm pretty much a casual player.

>>3480254
Fly up, press shift, hold shift and fly down. It stays in place.

It stays in place as long as shift is pressed and even about 1 second after you let go of the button. If you want to move fast, you have to press shift periodically to hold it in place.
Damage is very good. On bosses, place it so that 3 flames hit. Spread is nice too. You can put if on one side of the stage while you shoot the enemies with your main cannon on the other side.

Aya would be good if she wasn't in a game where shot enemies explode. This makes her a very bad choice against Parsee and Orin. Suika is the same.
Alice has the same problem, but she's as good as Yukari if you can play unfocused only during boss fights.

>>3480339
It's not useless. When you point both shots in the same direction, the destructive power is one of the highest in the game. In order to do this, all you have to do is tap Shift when playing as the ghost team; and tap down when playing Youmu solo.

>>3477982
I actually pretty much did this to Okuu yesterday. That first spellcard is ridiculous.

I also took Reimu C for a spin yesterday in SA, and even though it seemingly acts like Youmu in IN, I just can't get used to it. It's very weak other than the bomb.

IN Sakuya is pretty much the worst.

>>3478453
I dunno.

Who's on the far right in this pic?

>>3481905
Nue, I think, and I only have the snake and the vague shape of her "wings" in the background to go by. The shirt looks about right too.

>>3481905
Nue, note the snake and wing parts on the back. If Reimu gets the Stage 6 boss, Marisa gets the Extra one and viceversa, though Byakuren isn't there. Reimu gets both Yuyuko and Yukari instead.

>>3481905
Looks like Nue.

>>3481920
Oh yeah, that's right. I wasn't expecting it to be an EX Boss. This and Yuyuko kinda throw off the themes going on in the two pics.

>>3477982

Oops, I actually meant IN Alice. SA is ok, though I still prefer Aya or Yukari

I've been wondering. Does anyone use any of the last 3 shots in MarisaB from SA? I can't see any of those being useful.

>>3482018
There were a few parts in boss fights where the side/back shots were useful. Parsee and Orin come to mind.

Finally found this.

>>3482191
Useless ability is useless.

>>3482197

Shameimaru's ability in SA is excellent. You can clear the entire screen with one bomb.

>>3482191
What WAS her ability anyway?

>>3482223
You might as well just use Yukari.

>>3482227

You can move super fast if you don't hold either fire or shift.

>>3482227
If you don't focus and don't shoot, you can fly faster into bullets and enemies.

>>3482223
Ability, not bomb.

>>3482238

The ability is what allows the bomb to do that. You bomb, then you zip-zap all around the screen.

Eh. I think the real strength of Aya's bomb is using it and then sitting on top of bosses. When I think about it, whenever I used her bomb in stages, I continued to hold "Z" anyway and still managed to clear things out easily. You don't really need her ability.

>>3482018
If you can shotgun the 3 way shot or get above them to hit with the reverse shot, they actually do something like twice as much damage as the red shot.

>>3481892
>I also took Reimu C for a spin yesterday in SA, and even though it seemingly acts like Youmu in IN, I just can't get used to it. It's very weak other than the bomb.
Her shot is a lot weaker than Youmu's, unfortunately. It also spreads outs, so you lose half your options' power behind you and half off to the sides if you shoot from the bottom of the screen. This actually becomes an advantage, though, if you bomb and sit on top of the boss and are suddenly hitting with all your options.

When I play SA, I use Aya, but more because I find her version of Satori incredibly easy than because I prefer the shot type. Satori with Yukari's spell cards is harder than fuckin Orin.

>>3482312
>Satori with Yukari's spell cards is harder than fuckin Orin.

Use the safespot on the third one. Second isn't that bad, but I do agree that Death Butterfly should not be there.

>>3482312
Wow. So I wasn't the only one who had problems with Satori using Yukari's cards. The safe spot on the 3rd card really does make it a breeze. I'm about 50% being able to capture it normally.

The easiest Satori variation is definitely Alice's. I captured all 3 cards the first time I fought her. Nitori's is hard. Aya's is pretty tough, too. I still haven't gotten to stage 4 with Patchouli though.

>>3482334
As an Alice player, I dislike the last Satori card card because it lasts forever. Oh well, her second is a joke so it makes up for that.

Suika has it pretty easy, and so, I think, does Nitori.

>>3482312

Safe spots are for worthless jerks, I can't imagine, how you may cheat with character, whom you adore. This is so lame

>>3482371
I don't adore the characters I use. They're but tools to an end.

>>3482429
Lies. You dream of gapping into gensokyo and meeting them.

Marisa A. Most of the time.

>>3477982

I bomb through spellcards because I suck.

>>3477982

>I bomb through spellcards because I suck.

>>3482429

>>3482604
Go ahead and play your no bomb runs if you're that hardcore. The rest of us will gladly use them instead of adding fake difficulty by pretending it's somehow better to avoid using the tools the game gives us.

After beating Orin with Marisa B (continues of course), I have to say this shot type is bad. You'd think that the red shot would do a lot of damage, but it doesn't. After playing Reimu A for so long, you can just tell that attacks last way longer than usual.

The bomb is also tough to use. It rips bosses apart, but there is the problem of getting close enough to use it. Most of the time, I just use it after dying.

>>3482649

>>3482654
Learn to use her other shot types. She has incredible versatility, so of course her straight damage from the bottom of the screen has to be lower. On a lot of cards, you can shotgun Wood or Earth for way more damage than Yukari.
Also, you're comparing her to Yukari, who pretty much breaks the character balance into itty bitty pieces every time she makes an appearance.

>>3482649

Damn fanon, when will they ever learn that Alice's dolls are nothing but a tool for her magic?

>>3477991
His post was relevant to the discussion and perfectly valid, holy god you FASCINATING xD guys are faggots.

>>3482679
What targets are fat enough to get shotgunned by wood? And earth's shot power is greater than fire?

>>3482939
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=181.0

The shot data is the only thing on Shrinemaiden that can be read without cringing, use it well.

Shotgunning doesn't really depend on hitbox size but on the card in question. If there aren't random bullets that come directly forward (a lot of Parsee cards, for example), then you can go and shotgun it. But mostly you'll shotgun during the bombs.

does anyone have that close up image off all the teams from IN where it focuses on their eyes

>>3482976
This one?

>>3483005

>>3483005
yes thanks

>>3483005
And I also have this.

MarisaC is the best, no lie

>>3483090
No.

>>3483090
That's nice, but it doesn't answer the OP's question.

>>3482649
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN

>>3477774
>>3481905
This guy draws some awesome stuff

#1 problem with Marisa B in SA: accidentally switching to the wrong shot.

Yuyuko's shot is weak and scattered.

>>3483210
>Scattered
yea.
>Weak
lolno

>>3482350
>Suika has it pretty easy
Deep Mist Labyrinth.

>>3482350
Just tried Suika, and no. Very hard.

>>3483333
I agree. I play Reimu/Suika 90% of the time, and I hate "Throwing Mt. Togakushi" (lasts forever) and, of course, "Deep Mist Labyrinth". Combined 0/29 on them.

>>3483370
Togakushi's not so hard. Before she releases the first shot, just go unfocused and fly high and to the side. Just keep trying to alternate sides like this the best you can until you beat it. As it winds down, it'll be harder to get higher up on the side, so you just need to hang in there.

Deep mist labyrinth is pretty ridiculous though.

Everyone's Satori spellcards are a bitch except for Nitori. Maybe Aya is ok too, but I never got the technique down for any of them except the MoF repeat.

>>3483491
No no no. Everyone's is hard except for Alice's. Satori's Nitori cards on Normal are leveled up from her MoF Normal versions.